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Anonymous No.723425280 [Report] >>723425514 >>723425676 >>723425820 >>723425981 >>723426084 >>723426336 >>723426346 >>723426690 >>723426905 >>723426931 >>723427643 >>723427823 >>723428180 >>723428337 >>723428371 >>723428968 >>723429281 >>723429697 >>723431963 >>723432718 >>723433238 >>723433740 >>723433825 >>723434197 >>723436904 >>723437805 >>723437935 >>723438751 >>723442352 >>723442693 >>723442796 >>723443026 >>723443103 >>723443152 >>723444875 >>723446192 >>723446949 >>723447876 >>723447980 >>723448798 >>723448828 >>723450259
Why did her game flop?
Anonymous No.723425514 [Report] >>723436998
>>723425280 (OP)
all atelier games are 7/10 and remove 10% of a male's testosterone
Anonymous No.723425628 [Report] >>723427947
Yumia didn't have the same twitter trends to attract all the tourist coomers that Ryza did. Her game also was a bad atelier title even though it was a pretty impressive rpg coming from gust. The atelier fanbase simply isn't big enough to recreate another Ryza. Tourists came for Ryza and left after it was over. It's a similar trend with Kiseki and cold steel. People came for Rean and left when his arc was over.
Anonymous No.723425676 [Report] >>723425875
>>723425280 (OP)
They fell for the open world meme and then censored the fuck out of it.
Anonymous No.723425820 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
the game has like 20 different mechanics to prevent you from ever looking up her skirt. If I pay money for a fucking game then I fucking expect to be able to look at panties, what the fuck is this shit.
Anonymous No.723425875 [Report] >>723426282
>>723425676
>censored the fuck out of it.
it's less censored than Ryza.
The latest Rensa spinoff game is also the least censored Atelier game in recent times with full on panty shots from main characters and that game sold even worse than Yumia.
Anonymous No.723425981 [Report] >>723426136
>>723425280 (OP)
Characters, resources and alchemy was fine but world exploration reusing the same shitty puzzles for 100 hours was pure caca.
Anonymous No.723426084 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
I was too busy shooting ropes to her to actually go and buy her game
Anonymous No.723426136 [Report]
>>723425981
Pretty sure the biggest complaint was in fact how simple and auto dumb downed the alchemy was. The base building was good and the world had a nice aesthetic.
Anonymous No.723426282 [Report] >>723426376
>>723425875
You can't even tilt your camera upwards in an open world game. What would you call that kind of design choice?
Anonymous No.723426336 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Hags
Anonymous No.723426346 [Report] >>723442517
>>723425280 (OP)
No one likes hags.
Anonymous No.723426376 [Report] >>723426825
>>723426282
you can.
Anonymous No.723426690 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
It had potential but the gameplay was terrible with how they tried to force the action rpg mechanics. Instead they should've just made it a botw clone.
Anonymous No.723426825 [Report] >>723426974
>>723426376
Anonymous No.723426826 [Report] >>723427302
I love Atelier and jrpgs and it's my goty despite it being very flawed. There has not been any other fun jrpgs to come out this year that have compared. Ninja Gaiden 4 is another highly anticipated game for me but I don't think it will snatch goty for me.
Anonymous No.723426905 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
She has an ugly mole, insta no buy from me
Anonymous No.723426931 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Open world slop
Anonymous No.723426974 [Report]
>>723426825
you can still tilt the camera up, what you are complaining about is not being able to pan it up to see panties. The game even had the gun mode which let you aim up as high as you wanted to.
Anonymous No.723427114 [Report] >>723427181 >>723427410
the last genuinely good atelier was ayesha
after that it had an identity crisis as it progressively tried to pander to mainstream rpg trends
Anonymous No.723427181 [Report]
>>723427114
That was also the last game primarily made by Gust itself. KT acquired them after which is why E&L had the engine change and everything started to get dumbed down.
Anonymous No.723427302 [Report] >>723427548 >>723436874
>>723426826
>There has not been any other fun jrpgs to come out this year
did you just skip E33? or not anime enough for you?
Anonymous No.723427410 [Report]
>>723427114
they should just start to add english voice acting, they seem to have no clue how many sales they lose over just that, a normalfag jrpg player is not gonna play in japanese.
Anonymous No.723427548 [Report]
>>723427302
i played it but despised the combat and lack of real build / theorycrafting the game had. i didn't like that every fight was just dependent on how well you can block and dodge attacks. I like my jrpgs to have actual tactical gameplay. In E33 it was just abuse Maelles damage while doing my defensive checks every turn. Yumias combat was pretty ass too but at least I got the proper feedback I was looking for after crafting new gear and items. The combat was also made a lot better in the postgame difficulties. Yumias combat / alchemy is still some of the worst in all of Atelier but I still found it more enjoyable than what E33 did with its braindead parry slop.
Anonymous No.723427643 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Not enough sex appeal. You can feel the corporate mandated blandness everywhere.
Anonymous No.723427823 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
it wasn't good overall
they tried too hard to appeal to other jrpg fans
after the good initial sales bad word of mouth made sales drop off a cliff
Anonymous No.723427947 [Report] >>723428816 >>723429598
>>723425628
>People came for Rean
why? he's boring as shit
Anonymous No.723428180 [Report] >>723428572 >>723428831 >>723429975 >>723431783 >>723443087
>>723425280 (OP)
Atelier games are weird man, their games are decent and have tons of hot girls but you play as a girl, so what do you want me to do with that devs?
Even as a turbo cumbrain i never got interested on it, Ryza is god tier and love her thighs but the games about cute girls doing cute things just don't work for me, same with anime
They could try making a game focused on the main girl becoming a legendary alchemist but the story could be told from our customizable character's (a dude, the target audience) point of view, she joins our party or we join hers and start working towards whatever goal is the endgame, maybe sprinkle a xenoblade-like post credits cg and boom, 100x more enjoyable experience.
Anonymous No.723428297 [Report]
It looks identical to other thousand cute anime girl turn based AGP games
Anonymous No.723428337 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
It was ass
Anonymous No.723428371 [Report] >>723449174
>>723425280 (OP)
They need to go the Zelda route and make two styles of atelier. They should make a game with the classic style of gameplay and alchemy and the other more casual friendly open world style like breath of the wild because trying to mix the two is obviously not working.
Anonymous No.723428572 [Report]
>>723428180
if the games were set up like that I wouldn't want to play them
You should be happy the newest game has male and female dual protagonist
Anonymous No.723428754 [Report]
Haven't played the new areas but the game was easy, boring and the crafting barely mattered at all (no the quick craft items don't count) and I spent more time doing shitty pipe puzzle over and over than I spent thinking about gear and gear traits FUCK GUST AND FUCK KOEI
Anonymous No.723428816 [Report]
>>723427947
because he was the yasashii shounen protag with an edgy backstory. people always shit on rean but he had a way more interesting story and setup than estelle and lloyd. Kevin was a nice protag but he only got to shine for 1 game. Van is also a rehash of Rean but much worse because the entire Calvard saga is a trainwreck.
Anonymous No.723428831 [Report]
>>723428180
>so what do you want me to do with that devs?
play the game?
Anonymous No.723428968 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
The games aren't about crafting autism and time limits anymore, but rather really mediocre ARPGs
Anonymous No.723429061 [Report]
https://steamdb.info/app/3259600/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/3123410/charts/


keeek
yumia wins
Anonymous No.723429281 [Report] >>723429353 >>723429478 >>723429521 >>723429778 >>723431562 >>723431596
>>723425280 (OP)
>Nigger ass
Because of that
More specifically the director decided he wanted to pander to a western and global audience, so what is the first thing he does? He age up the protagonist and give her a nigger ass since they know that is what americans find attractive
So the game despite being the fastest selling atelier game it was also the biggest flop at the same time, but hey he got the western audience that he wanted so he should be happy
Anonymous No.723429353 [Report]
>>723429281
That’s not even a big ass you giant faggot.
Anonymous No.723429478 [Report]
>>723429281
Fake fan
Anonymous No.723429521 [Report]
>>723429281
is this "nigger ass" in the room with us right now?
Trails in the sky No.723429598 [Report]
>>723427947
No one comes into these games for rean. He got some weirdly obsessed miniature cult on here but that's where it ends.
Anonymous No.723429697 [Report] >>723431843 >>723431986 >>723435257
>>723425280 (OP)
it did?
didn't it outsold pretty much every other atelier?
gust makes these with a budget of an indie game so even the worst ateliers turn profit anyways
Anonymous No.723429778 [Report]
>>723429281
>see butt
>immediately start thinking about black people and americans
What causes this level of derangement?
Anonymous No.723429975 [Report]
>>723428180
a dude being the target audiance is a recent thing
Anonymous No.723431465 [Report] >>723431562
Anonymous No.723431562 [Report] >>723432490
>>723429281
>>723431465
I miss when japanese games were made for japan and had small butts...
Anonymous No.723431596 [Report]
>>723429281
The niggers and niggerlovers did not like this trvke
Anonymous No.723431783 [Report]
>>723428180
but we would lose the original target audience, the target audience that made our games flop! we can't have that
just let it stay the way it is until it burns to the ground (soon), no need for improvements.
Anonymous No.723431843 [Report]
>>723429697
It sold very well week 1. They haven't updates the numbers since so its a high chance that word of mouth traveled and sales haulted.
Anonymous No.723431890 [Report] >>723432281 >>723433607
Guys check out my Atelier screenshots
>>723431684
>>723431747
Specifically this one, it's my favorite
>>723431813
Anonymous No.723431963 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Define Flop
Anonymous No.723431986 [Report]
>>723429697
It was something like monster hunter wilds, it sold a shitton on the first month, and then people stopped buying it and make it fall behind all other games
Anonymous No.723431989 [Report] >>723432404
I actually still have this on my wishlist, what I played of the demo was fun but if I wanted everything it was
>$100
Which is comical for trying something out.
I'm waiting for a decent sale, I'm confident I'll enjoy it, but my time is so limited that I could have plenty of stuff to play without this getting thrown on top.
Anonymous No.723432130 [Report]
Yumia was good. My only concern is that it will be difficult for gust to keep up the open world formula. They were even given another year of development because of the gacha. Still no word on the memories 2 game but I still expect it to be a yearly release cycle for these games.
Anonymous No.723432281 [Report] >>723433094
>>723431890
cat ears..
Anonymous No.723432404 [Report] >>723432948
>>723431989
Wait about 6-7 years for the DX version. It'll be a third of the price and have even more content.
Trails in the sky No.723432490 [Report] >>723432934
>>723431562
Japan loves big asses and tits though. They just dont have them
Anonymous No.723432718 [Report] >>723432770
>>723425280 (OP)
$80 is why. No other answer gets to the real issue. They priced it as an AAA game.
Anonymous No.723432770 [Report]
>>723432718
*$70.
Anonymous No.723432805 [Report] >>723433050 >>723433151
can you explore and do random shit in the supposed "open world" from this game or is a forced story go from point A to B classic jrpg with fake freedom
Anonymous No.723432934 [Report]
>>723432490
>Japan loves big asses
Sure thing jamal
Anonymous No.723432948 [Report]
>>723432404
I'm sure it will go on a respectable cut for me before then, I'm looking at like 60 for the game and dlc.
I liked it because it was confident in having sexier characters without needing to be a porn game. Tired of the majority of content outside the gacha space making lesser women.
Translated another way: Ryza was sexy, yes, but Yumia's design is something I personally find hotter, enough to have actually tried the game (and liked it)
Anonymous No.723433050 [Report]
>>723432805
I only played the demo for 5 hours but I spend about 3 of those hours fucking around in the overworld just killing things and grabbing stuff. YMMV yada yada. If I had to put it to pen I'd say it reminded me of how Xenoblade does its world, with a few more puzzles.
Anonymous No.723433094 [Report] >>723433607 >>723435585
>>723432281
they're dog ears
Anonymous No.723433151 [Report]
>>723432805
The latter. You have to do the story to open things up and can't proceed to later areas or get certain upgrades until you do.
Anonymous No.723433238 [Report] >>723433375
>>723425280 (OP)
Garbage gameplay and woke
Anonymous No.723433297 [Report]
imagine that, your troon pandering game was not popular.
Anonymous No.723433375 [Report] >>723433656 >>723434894
>>723433238
woke? how
Anonymous No.723433565 [Report]
/pol/tards are annoying
Anonymous No.723433607 [Report]
>>723433094
I am so stupid..
>>723431890
Either way, cute screenshots
Anonymous No.723433656 [Report]
>>723433375
Don't worry about it. If a game does poorly, there will always be some woke reason for it, like no pantyshots or something.
Anonymous No.723433740 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
people got sucked in by thighza then realised atelier is just grindslop and vowed never to play another one again
Anonymous No.723433825 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
That was my first experience with the series and holy f**k was it boring. I didn't make it 5 hours. The combat was somehow too confusing but also too easy to the point I didn't have to pay attention at all.
Anonymous No.723434197 [Report] >>723435526 >>723436256
>>723425280 (OP)
The game is obscenely easy. You can quickly gte overleved and destroy any enemy while the combat itself is literally just mashing buttons, no thinking at all.
Anonymous No.723434201 [Report]
it's like the japanese atelier fanbase is a three-headed hydra where some are the original oldfag atelier fans who never minded the very forgiving time limits and enjoyed the immersive alchemy + laid-back narrative. yeah even japan gets tired of the Final Fantasy 'save the cosmos' type narrative and just want to chill. then you had the yurifag era where otaku were picking up atelier because it was about girls loving girls! they also complained about time limits being hard & the game having fail states so gust removed time limits and fail states. and then the modern nu-atelier fans Ryza brought which is going really light on the alchemy in favor of MOAR ADVENTURE and Yumia had the most gutted alchemy in favor of ADVENTURE
Anonymous No.723434797 [Report]
>game after yumia
>flopped harder than yumia
I dunno if i can even blame it to the gacha or just something else.
Anonymous No.723434894 [Report]
>>723433375
Bathing with burkas
Anonymous No.723435257 [Report]
>>723429697
It unironically didn't, if you want to look at an Atelier that flopped you have to look at the game that released after it.
Anonymous No.723435526 [Report] >>723436031
>>723434197
thats why they added more difficulty modes after finishing the game and through patches. it's like this for basically every Atelier ever since they added difficulty modes. The Ryza games were even worse with its difficulty and button mashing combat but for whatever reason that series got a pass because the coomer tourists love Ryza.
Anonymous No.723435585 [Report] >>723436031
>>723433094
Oh I didn't realize she was a doggirl either
Arventur No.723435970 [Report]
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Anonymous No.723436031 [Report]
>>723435585
It doesn't help that the animal girls in this subseries don't have tails so all you have to work off of is the ears.
>>723435526
I complained about Ryza too, but the Ryza 1 and 2 weren't as bad as Yumia. 3 is pretty close honestly, so Yumia being like it is isn't actually that surprising.
Anonymous No.723436197 [Report] >>723436251 >>723436972 >>723437341
Objectively she's much hotter than Ryza. It makes no sense for her to not get a fraction of the porn.
Anonymous No.723436251 [Report]
>>723436197
the coomers played their first jrpg and got filtered then went back to tw*tter and r*ddit.
Anonymous No.723436256 [Report]
>>723434197
Anonymous No.723436820 [Report]
I don't get the character swapping mechanic. Did anyone play as anyone other than Yumia herself, or Ryza in her games? I get it in games where you command every party member, but when you're only controlling one I always end up defaulting to the girl you play as in the overworld anyway.
Anonymous No.723436874 [Report]
>>723427302
>jrpg
>E33
Back to Facebook, retard.
Anonymous No.723436904 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
it pleased nobody
Anonymous No.723436972 [Report]
>>723436197
is that the jecht shot mk. 3?
Anonymous No.723436998 [Report]
>>723425514
the resleriana asset flip mogs this game so hard it isn't even funny, yumia just isn't an atelier game
Anonymous No.723437341 [Report]
>>723436197
Even Ryza got a pretty limited amount of porn relative to the hotness of her design.
Anonymous No.723437805 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
I didn’t buy it because I don’t like hags. I heard the combat and alchemy were super simplistic though
Anonymous No.723437935 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
I unironically like Yumia and she is a better direction than Ryza.
Anonymous No.723438751 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
>Why did her game flop?
Price set too high and censored pantsu.
Anonymous No.723439909 [Report] >>723441163
Anonymous No.723441146 [Report]
Anonymous No.723441163 [Report] >>723441723 >>723442548
>>723439909
how did they get away with this design
Anonymous No.723441723 [Report]
>>723441163
By being a game rated B specifically because of sexual content (or fan service) and a game rated T for Teen with ''Mild Suggestive Themes'' as one of its content descriptors.
Anonymous No.723442352 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
no one in the west played it
Anonymous No.723442517 [Report]
>>723426346
I'm just waiting for the anti-fanservice tourists to chimpout.
Anonymous No.723442548 [Report]
>>723441163
She's a doll.
>but what about lydie and suelle
They're just poor.
Anonymous No.723442693 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
You have a very strange definition of flop.
Anonymous No.723442721 [Report]
ill never forgive you people. no, pleading for scraps, hoping to get a little bit of soul back from the likes of sophie 2 doesnt count. i hate you people.
Anonymous No.723442782 [Report] >>723442973
I've been replaying rorona which I haven't touched since the ugly moeblob ps3 version. Its still very fun
Anonymous No.723442796 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Her azur lane skin was good, they should give us figure
Anonymous No.723442973 [Report]
>>723442782
Arland is peak.
Anonymous No.723443026 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
The sexy art is actually better than the damn game.
Played it earlier this year, story is exceptionally slow to start, even when it does get going it trash, everyone is mean to yumia because she knows magic and shit and let's just ignore that she uses that to help people.

The alchemy is dumbed down and no fun. Base building doesn't feel enjoyable at all because if you have OCD shit never lines up how you want.

Fighting isnt that good. Exploring boils down to hunting certain colored items near the end so you have half decent stuff.

The story is bad guy bad because he wants to use alchemy to bring his people back.....WE MUST STOP HIM!
Wolf guy was cool.
Sheep girl was sexy.
Ending was abysmal.

Wtf were they going for with this game?

I've got the new one but havent touchedit yet. Is it any better or another zzz fest
Anonymous No.723443087 [Report]
>>723428180
Anal
Anonymous No.723443103 [Report] >>723443667
>>723425280 (OP)
Made for /ss/ sex
Anonymous No.723443152 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
It's anime slop that runs worse than realitic graphics UE5 slop on my shitty PC
Anonymous No.723443667 [Report]
>>723443103
holy based
Anonymous No.723443818 [Report] >>723445775
Didnt commision enough lewd art like they did with Ryzaline
Anonymous No.723444875 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
i've only ever played ar tonelico from them and don't have any interest in playing something else.
Anonymous No.723445345 [Report]
Anonymous No.723445775 [Report] >>723445856
>>723443818
Reisalin
Anonymous No.723445856 [Report]
>>723445775
I just wanna have sex with her, thats all I know
Anonymous No.723446192 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Did it actually flop or is this another case where they didn't sell a gorrilian PHYSICAL copies in JAPAN so fashitsu nintrannies deemed it a flop?
Anonymous No.723446949 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Nina and her tits have me somewhat interested in this game.
Anonymous No.723447876 [Report] >>723448016 >>723448115 >>723448264
>>723425280 (OP)
People realized they couldn’t get what they wanted, so they left.
Anonymous No.723447980 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
SLAP
Anonymous No.723448016 [Report]
>>723447876
Erm...wtf do they hate cash money~
Anonymous No.723448115 [Report]
>>723447876
Atelier has fallen
Anonymous No.723448264 [Report]
>>723447876
There hasn't really been fanservice in these games since dusk
Anonymous No.723448626 [Report] >>723448790
Ryza capturing the coomer audience was a flash in the pan. Sheer luck. An equal, or even a better design, would not see the same success.

If they want to retain an audience, they need to make good games that are consistently worth playing. JRPG is not a genre that lends itself well to formulaic annual releases.
Anonymous No.723448790 [Report] >>723449137
>>723448626
>JRPG is not a genre that lends itself well to formulaic annual releases.
Unless you're Falcom.
Anonymous No.723448798 [Report] >>723448992
>>723425280 (OP)
Resleriana is a step backwards, it's an atelier from the PS3 era.
Anonymous No.723448828 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Cause it's a terrible open world game, full of open world busy work. The pioneer/colonization setting is so undercooked, it could have been amazing if the scope was a lot more tighter.
Anonymous No.723448907 [Report]
Playing Ayesha now, currently lost with the only area available that I haven't been too being a major difficulty spike and can barely manage to beat one group let alone clear the area. I am going to have to look up a walkthrough later god damn.
Anonymous No.723448992 [Report]
>>723448798
>it's an atelier from the PS3 era.
sounds good to me
Anonymous No.723449137 [Report]
>>723448790
Are you under the impression that Falcom is doing particularly better than Gust?
Anonymous No.723449174 [Report]
>>723428371
this anon is correct
Anonymous No.723449185 [Report]
Too many anime girls I can't tell these bitches apart from one another anymore.
Anonymous No.723450259 [Report]
>>723425280 (OP)
Shame the game sucked because I really liked Yumia. She was cute.
Anonymous No.723451280 [Report] >>723451526
Anonymous No.723451526 [Report]
>>723451280