Thread 723439252

>>723439252 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS1s3T-rnFU

>>723439252 (OP)
More like beyond beef.

>>723439252 (OP)
>mfw no Red Hood game

More like Bed Bath & Batman Beyond

>>723439252 (OP)
wanna know the game rocksteady was making before suicide squad?

>>723439645
It would have sucked if it was Batman Beyond. Beyond stopped being good after a certain point because Bruce Timm is the worst member of his team and ruined what made Terry distinct. Also, if it was written by the same guys behind City and Knight, the plot would have sucked ass.

>no Kevin Conroy for Old Bruce
>Will Friedle won't do Terry again without Conroy
>Mark Hamill won't do Joker again without Conroy
Beyond's rogues weren't even that memorable, to the point most people will bring up the clown sluts even though they only existed in the movie

>>723439783
>It would have sucked if it was Batman Beyond
it was. it went as far as concept stage

>>723440026
Yeah, I really do not think they would have done it justice.

>>723439783
>Also, if it was written by the same guys behind City and Knight, the plot would have sucked ass.
Both Asylum and City plots were written by Paul Dini while Knight and SS stories were made by Rocksteady writers. So yeah, almost certainly it would suck

>>723439942
The only ones I remember were the cool green skeleton guy who just drowns in S1 and never comes back. The Cool Ninja with the sword that cuts anything, the gamer psychic nerd, and the ink blob lady who was basically just a more dull clayface.

>>723439590
There's no where else to go with his story

>>723439512
It was ahead of its time.

>>723439942
Beyond's rogues are the gold standard for mantle passes. Marvel wishes they had even ONE original rogue as good as Inque or Shriek to go with nigga spider-man. Spellbinder, Mad Stan, Curare, Stalker, and the Royal Flush gang were also great.

Honestly I wouldn't need or even want Hamill to do Joker for a Batman Beyond game. Return of the Joker is great but there's no need to revisit it in a game. Terry has plenty of his own rogues; enough that you could probably make one incredible game or two lighter ones.

>>723440649
To be fair a lot of Terry's gallary is a mix of Spiderman's and Original cast

>>723440649
>comparing Terry to Miles when he's basically Miguel
Anon, please

>>723439942
blight is memorable as fuck but he gets screwed up by the fact he's only in the first season, its a major recurring problem with beyonds rogues in that they're all one and done aside of shriek and inque

>>723439252 (OP)
>Batman Beyong

>>723440523
More like they haven't even began to tell his story.

>>723440772
I'll give you Stalker as a Kraven expy, Earth Mover as Sandman, and obviously Spellbinder is reminiscent of Mysterio. But the rest of his stuff is pretty unique. Shriek, Inque, Willie Watt (both appearances), Armory, Mad Stan, Curare, Blight, the star trek plagiarizer, the intangibility guy, and the guy with the suit that repels everything are all unique and not based on Bruce or Spider-Man's rogues.

>>723440313
Asylum's plot was pretty alright for what was esentially a greatest hits boss rush. I think it got worse in City because bigger = better right? Nah, just about all the bosses were pretty bad. Now it was a boss rush with worse pacing.

>>723439942
The DeeDees were also in Justice League.

The villains of Beyond were fun but most of them wouldn’t work well in an Arkham game as they would involve more aerial combat. Best a game could do with Arkham combat would be Blight (obviously), Shriek, Big Time, Mad Stan, and maybe Inque and Spellbinder in some sort of puzzle fight (but that was already done before with Freeze). Others like the Royal Flush Gang, Willie Watt or Repeller would have to be too gimmicky to be a battle of skill.

>>723440840
Terry is like miguel in that he's a version of a popular superhero in a futuristic setting. But he's more like miles as they're both young and upcoming supes mentored by older and more experienced heroes to "pass the torch". But terry has a distinct personality from bruce, lives in a very different gotham and has his own rogue's gallery. Whereas miles is just the same spiderman with the same villains in the same city except black. And mexican. And he sucks cock.

I remember in one of the cartoons of this era, some goon got the power to phase through stuff and at the end of the episode he loses control of his power and sinks forever into the middle of the Earth until he dies. Was that Batman Beyond or Static Shock?

>>723441441
That’s Peek, season 2 of Batman Beyond.

>>723440171
Considering they were going to make you play as Damian instead of Terry, yeah it would have sucked.

>>723440516
>>723439942
As memorable as Blight was, he's basically Dr. Phosphorus in all but name.

>>723441441
Yup, he was memorable too, but he also had the same problem of just being one-and-done.

>>723439252 (OP)
Wanting current era American retards to ruin Beyond with their faggotry and dogshit writing

>>723439783
>Bruce Timm
It's executive meddling that fucked with Batman Beyond's third season. They wanted a lighter show so it got more high school drama.

>>723441680
Look, even if they did fuck with it, it was still a good season regardless. However, Epilogue was fucking terrible and did serious harm to the premise of BB.

>>723441567
>play as Damian
Warner Bros never learn. People want Terry as Batman Beyond. They keep fucking this basic shit up

>>723439512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-3kQxTtgM

>>723439783
Batman Beyond's greatest problem was trying to force it into the DCAU and then ultimately retconning it being Bruce's son/clone.

Joker should've beaten Tim Drake to death with a crowbar, it would've been a better fate than what really happened to him.

>>723439942
>>Mark Hamill won't do Joker again without Conroy
Hamill is a shameless whore, he'd do anything for money.

>>723439252 (OP)
>Beyong

>>723441431
>he's a version of a popular superhero in a futuristic setting
You mean, a dystopian cyberpunk shithole version of the original's city. Who would never have become a crimefighter except for the excesses of an amoral CEO ruining their life. Who both differentiate themselves from their namesakes by being a lot more willing to let people die. Both having some aspect that's the opposite of their namesake, with Terry being untrained but propped up by the Batsuit to Bruice being well trained but only having the powersuit as a last resort, and Miguel's webshooters being organic spinnerettes to Peter's genius invention.

>>723441763
>People want Terry as Batman Beyond.
The people who want Terry back are in their mid-thirties.

>>723441928
So the prime consumer market with money to spend

>>723441747
Wrong.

>>723441680
Executive meddling didnt decide that AKSHUALLY Terry and his lil bro are genetic sons of Bruce Wayne because of some genetic sperm change cuckoldry.
No no but you see, only Bruce wayne's direct genetic code can be MUH REAL BATMAN and there HAS to be one of them. THE WORLD NEEDS AN AUTIST LIKE BRUCE WAYNE.
Hey you know how Terry's dad's death is the big reason why Terry awakens to the path of justice and decides to fight crime? LOL LMAO, wasnt even his actual dad. Just a carrier for Bruce's sperm

Timm is a fucking hack. The best part of Beyond was the fact that anyone with a drive to fight injustice could be batman. You didnt need to be born privileged to be able to fight crime. Also, I guess fuck Dick Grayson, and the rest of the Bat senpai because NO THERE HAS TO BE A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF BRUCFE WAYNE. NO ONE CAN BE LIKE HIM. HE'S SO HECKING SPECIAL.
Bruce timm should never be allowed to touch anything batman both after what he did to Beyond and then the butchering of Barbara and Bruce's relationship in killing joke.

>>723441625
be a fun opportunity to have a villain be a mid 00's liberal who's cryogenically thawed out in 2040 where basically everything they demanded of society has happened, and they can't cope with missing out on making the difference. Everyone's eating lab grown meat that's safe and healthy and animal exploitation is all but gone, the entire trans movement is gone since treatments exist to alter ones dna so no more hrt or destructive surgery, nobody cares about the distinction much anymore. Instead of that being paradise they're alienated and dejected because they had nothing else in their life but their grievances and reject the current society and go destructively looking for new more banal or unhinged causes.

Hated this cartoon when I was a kid. It's too icky.

>>723441967
>So the prime consumer market with money to spend
Anon, the last thing we need is WB trying to make BB, a concept that could only exist in a specific universe, into the next ATLAS and TT'03.

>>723442050
>Bat senpai
I fucking hate that I forget some of the filters on this stupid site lmao.
Why the fuck is 'f.a.m' getting turned into senpai anyway.
regardless, I meant bat family

>>723442127
Won't argue with that. Modern creatives poison everything precious from my childhood, the fucks.

>>723442050
Ah it's this fucking autist again. Sorry but yes, intelligence, physical skill, and even moral conviction are greatly informed by your genetics. But also,
>wasnt even his actual dad.
Isn't remotely true. In fact one of the main reasons that Terry is so much better adjusted than Bruce is because his mom and dad were around to raise him.

>>723442278
>In fact one of the main reasons that Terry is so much better adjusted than Bruce is because
Phantasm refused to murder his parents in a parking lot on Waller's orders so he'd be more like The Perfect Batman

I liked the episode where Barbara throws a batarang to help Terry and she seems really smug about it.

>>723442190
>Why the fuck is 'f.a.m' getting turned into senpai anyway.
same reason to be honest and shake my head got filtered, it's obnoxious twitterspeak baka desu.

>>723442278
>intelligence, physical skill, and even moral conviction are greatly informed by your genetics
lol lmao even.
But maybe you do have a point because you sound like an inbred retard and were probably born from a brother sister couple
It's just dogshit writing

>>723439512
this intro goes harder than things not made for kids

raped to death by Inque

>>723439252 (OP)
>beloved character get character assassinated and becomes a massive threat who slaps the shit out of the heroes
>gets sick drip too
Times this happened in the vidya?

>>723442509
I wish

>>723442509
Inque begrudingly allowing you to fuck her only to rape your urethra

>>723442468
>lol lmao even.
Are you fucking stupid? Of course it matters. Effort alone is not enough to overcome intrinsic limits, and even effort is informed by your genetics.

>>723442896
>Of course it matters
Yeah, nah. This is the world of fiction bro. There is serious effort to make Bruce Wayne peak human. Do you really think they'd make his son a boring ugly manlet accountant? Nah, his son is going to be a peak human like him.

>>723442113
Thats a hilarious premise. Rocksteady should hire you on as a writer.

Of course they wouldnt though as only untalented ass kissing hacks have a place in this industry

>quick, use the nanomachines to put Bruce Wayne's cum in that man's balls! We're going to need a new Batman in 18 years!
Shittiest retcon

>>723443161
Nah that's exactly some shit amanda waller would do

The bat cum was dumb cause Terry is clearly his own man regardless of genetics, he could not have been more different from Bruce.

>>723442896
Not anywhere close to an extent that someone would go out of their way to fucking create an entire super secret genetic program.
It would make a lot more sense if this was a plotline for Superman etc, because yeah, he IS genetically superior.
In Batman lore alone, multiple people handle being batman when Bruce is incapacitated.
The only thing Bruce has above the rest is his IQ. Which is NOT a guaranteed inheritance at all. Some of the smartest people on the planet have absolutely normal if not dumb kids.
Terry could have easily remained a street kid that was smarter than the rest and was then mentored by Bruce to make up for his deficiencies. It makes for a better character.
The Epilogue plot completely shits on not only the entire agency Terry has had into becoming Batman, by making it a HE WAS THE DESTINED SUCCESSOR ALL ALONG garbage.
You simply cannot convince me otherwise I'm sorry

>>723443161
>doctor, this shot isn't going to make me shoot another man's sperm out of my dick will it? My wife and I are trying to conceive a child so if this shot made another man's sperm come out of my dick, that would be very inconvenient for us.

>>723439252 (OP)
Based, it would never be as good as the cartoons were.

The thing about the batcum twist is they must have come up with it early on in development for the show.
Look at Terry's parents, they're both redheads, yet had two sons with black hair. It was planned all along.

>>723443428
wait, both kids are Bruce's?

>>723443428
>Look at Terry's parents, they're both redheads, yet had two sons with black hair. It was planned all along.
If Terry was going to be someone else's son, it still shouldn't have been Bruce.
>>723443481
Yeah

>>723443481
Yep.
Which means Terry basically had a Robin waiting to join him.

>>723443242
DCAU Cadmus tried to recreate Superman already. Or Supergirl. Or whatever the fuck Galatea was meant to be besides Power Girl with a different name.

>>723443457
>cartoonist decides to write
>shit ensues

>>723443313
>It would make a lot more sense if this was a plotline for Superman etc,
The whole reason that Waller was able to do this is specifically because the tech was already invented and used to clone supergirl.
>The only thing Bruce has above the rest is his IQ.
And his autistic willpower and fixations
>Which is NOT a guaranteed inheritance at all.
Nobody said it was. In fact Waller outright says Terry isn't as smart. Which is kind of the point of the finale, that Terry is a better batman specifically because he didn't end up following in Bruce's footsteps, in spite of Waller's initial intentions. Unlike Bruce, who sits in his mansion a bitter defeated loser because he alienated everyone who ever tried to care about him, Terry has a chance to live a better life and rely on his friends and family.
>The Epilogue plot completely shits on not only the entire agency Terry has had into becoming Batman, by making it a HE WAS THE DESTINED SUCCESSOR ALL ALONG garbage.
It literally directly says that fate is bullshit and that what Terry has done and will do are entirely his own choices.

>>723443563
Matt becoming Robin was done in a comic and it was stupid. Everyone who knows Bruce is just "Holy FUCK Bruce, ANOTHER one?!"

>>723443584
>DCAU Cadmus tried to recreate Superman already. Or Supergirl. Or whatever the fuck Galatea was meant to be besides Power Girl with a different name.
Another thing that sucks about the DCAU. These composite characters suck.

>>723443428
Because it was. The original Paul Dini story was that it was Selina Kyle that was going to clone/testtube baby a kid from Bruce (because he didnt slam one into her lmao) and then raise that kid into being a more ruthless Batman.
basically the plot that eventually became Talia and Damien's.
That movie never got made, and the basic premise got changed into what we got after Bruce Timm got his hands on it

>>723443584
Galatea a cute

Waller's plan was stupid because even with Bruce's DNA and two dead parents, Terry couldn't be Batman without also having Bruce's money.

>>723439252 (OP)
there was one on the n64 and it was hot dogshit
batman was the king of superhero games of the 8-bit and 16-bit eras, but then all the 5th and 6th gen batman games were irredeemable dogshit except for, ironically, the batman begins tie-in game which was at least sort of ok

>>723443639
>here's this convoluted complicated backstory for Terry
>lol lmao it didnt even mean anything, had no impact on the character and was worthless
THEN WHY WRITE IT IN THE FIRSTPLACE!?
>b-but Waller characterization
fuck off
The entire subplot is nothing but reused shit from >>723443689 and should have been left on the cutting floor

Terry McGinnis is proof that a scrappy troubled kid turning his life around and becoming a hero was a good idea and that the editor who killed off Jason Todd were idiots.

>>723444007
>THEN WHY WRITE IT IN THE FIRSTPLACE!?
To tell a story about rejection of predestination and also to highlight why specifically Terry is or at least could be a better batman than Bruce

>>723439252 (OP)
good
let it rest
it was a product of its era and should stay that way. they would ruin it if they tried to make anything related to it now

>>723439512
this shit got me so pumped up as a kid

>>723439252 (OP)
What year does Batman Beyong(sic) take place

>>723444093
They had to kill Jason because in western cuck comics you're not allowed to point out how you can fix the problem of crime by killing criminals

>>723444229
They killed Jason off because the editors didn't want Robin anymore despite missing the point about TDKR.

>>723444229
>Batman spergs out in the comic version so hard he fucking hits Jason in the neck with his shitty knockoff shuriken and he nearly bleeds to death
>All because Jason wanted to put the guy that tortured him to death and killed his mom to die
Such a stupid fucking idea. Red Hood's saving grace was his design and that's it.

>>723444229
They killed Jason because they put it to reader vote

>BLOW IT ALL UP
Did anyone ever develop a proper counterargument to this?

>>723444482
Yeah and then rigged the vote.

>>723444317
UTRH was a terrible story to begin with. The entire story happened because the writer didn’t get the point of Clayface Jason in Hush and decided that was the real Jason, and then he made the character a 180 of who he was the last time we saw him.

>>723439252 (OP)
>beyong

>>723444317
That comic is such a disaster I have no idea what they were trying to say with that one. At least if it was Two-Face or Riddler or Mr. Freeze then Batman would have had a point, because there's at least some shred of hope for them, but the fucking Joker?

>>723439512
APATIA... CHCIWOŚĆ... KORUPCJA... POTĘGA... NADZIEJA...
BATMAN PRZYSZŁOŚCI

>>723444804
While retarded in hindsight since his intro is beheading like seven guys Jason even makes the point in not having to murder guys like Freeze or Cobblepot since it's just not needed compared to The Joker.

>>723444317
>Red Hood's saving grace was his design and that's it.
not anymore, they already ditch the helmet long ago.

>>723445010
His original design for Jason I mean, the only one people like aside from I guess the one Joker used.

>>723439252 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_Beyond:_Return_of_the_Joker_(video_game)

Are you stupid or just a zoomer?

>>723444804
>>723444973
It was incredibly retarded because Jason undercuts his own message heavily because he’s doing a shit ton of heinous shit in record time.

>>723439252 (OP)
this show captured scifi gothic very well

>>723444093
Jason todd died because of a rigged poll.
Remember that Simpsons episode where Bart was asked to choose between the 10k and the elephant? DC comics wanted to "have a closer approach with the audience" with death in the family, making people choose via phone poll if Jason Todd will die or not, knowing that no Robin getting killed will win the poll.
Turns out "Kill Robin" won, and DC comitted with the result. Turns out that years later they discovered that some random basement dweller tampered the poll by using a machine that simulated thousands of phone calls, all calling the "kill Robin" number.
>t. /co/mrade

>>723446618
>thousands of phone calls
And yet still somehow only managed to beat Save Robin by less than 100

>>723439252 (OP)
There's this. I remember liking it as a kid but I found it hard.

>>723446706
Which tells that people didn't want Jason todd to die.

>>723439512
>Open with Gotham skyline of skyscrapers dividing the detached wealth class from those below
>Neo Gotham's backdrop of megastructures for the tech oligarchs fades in, vividly dwarfing the opulence of its predecessors
Actual cinema, there's a similar scene in Blade Runner 2049 where Wallace's building is introduced casting a massive silhouette behind Tyrell's old building.

>>723439512
wtf this is kids cartoon op?

>>723447248
Who actually dances like this

>>723446618
*editor's note: this is a very popular fan theory, but so far there's not enough evidence to call it a fact.

>>723447302
Girls, theoretically.
I wouldn't know, because no girl ever danced to me.

>>723439252 (OP)
it was shiiiit

>>723447302
go to a rave party

>>723441441
did someone say gooning

>>723447248
Reminds me of Gwen from Total Drama Island.

>>723439252 (OP)
If Warner bros agreed to make the betman beyond movie then we would've had a batman beyond renaissance instead miles morales.

>>723447302
theyre usually on ecstacy or cocaine thats what the cartoons leave out that explains it.

>>723444093
Jason was unlikeable.

>>723441441
a lot of the one-off villains in Beyond either go out in really fucked up ways or get fates worse than death

>>723447302
A lot of scenes from X-Men Evo lifted from teenagers in live action media, likely to assist the animators with what they were out of their depth on, like the other anon said the show cuts content from the lifted scenes like the confines and crowd.

>>723444482
>>723446618
Joker still beat Jason repeatedly with a crowbar, right? Even if Jason "lives" that's the same end result except now you've got a disfigured guy who'll live the rest of his miserable life in a vegetative coma.

>>723444007
>>723444167
I contend that trying to make Batman Beyond and DCAU the same canon made BOTH worse. Should've been "What If...?" the series.

>>723443983
>batman was the king of superhero games of the 8-bit and 16-bit eras
Wasn't there only one for the Genesis, or more?

>>723439252 (OP)
Personally I want a Teen Titans game. You only play as Robin though, the other titans are only there for the story (maybe as brainwashed bosses)

>>723439252 (OP)
>Batman Beyond but it was going to be with Damian Wayne instead of Terry McGinnis
I'm glad it got canned because that would have been so shit.

>>723450430
the batman returns beat em up for snes is also good

>>723450938
Does anyone actually like Damian?

>>723441431
>But terry has a distinct personality from bruce
They're not tat different if you're comparing the younger Bruce to Terry.
>has his own rogue's gallery
No, Terry also fights a lot of old Batman villains like Mr. Freeze and Joker, but people give him a pass for that.
>Whereas miles is just the same spiderman
Miles is nothing like Peter.
>with the same villains
This isn't a Miles problem it's a Marvel NYC problem.
>in the same city
A lot of heroes are in New York. It's a big ass city.
>except black. And mexican.
He's just black. His mom is Puerto Rican and that's hardly its own race.
>And he sucks cock.
He's actually super straight, I don't know who gaslit you to think Miles is gay in any way.

>>723451543
>Marvel NYC problem
A lot of Miles' problems would be solved if they just moved him to his own city.
Like having two guys calling themselves Spider-Man in the single city is stupid and confusing, where you could have Miles be the Baltimore Spider-Man and facing his own unique villains there.

>>723442896
>Effort alone is not enough to overcome intrinsic limits, and even effort is informed by your genetics.
Ok, Jap.
>>723441625
Child hands typed your post.
>>723443161
Yea, Injustice was right for killing that bitch off.

>>723444229
Did you even read the comics, jackass?

>>723451783
>Like having two guys calling themselves Spider-Man in the single city is stupid and confusing
Yeah but nobody questions when Gotham as Batman, Batgirl, Batwoman, Black Bat, Batwing, Nightwing, Robin, Red Robin, Red Hood, and Huntress all roaming around, now do they?

>>723451783
Miles doesn't sell if he's his own thing, he barely sells packaged with Spiderman the way he is. They know that.

>>723439252 (OP)
would have been the easiest thing in the world to kick of the XB1 and PS4 with a Terry Mcguinness arkham game with a space colony prison full of DC universe's space rogues.

>>723451543
>Terry also fights a lot of old Batman villains like Mr. Freeze and Joker, but people give him a pass for that.
That’s literally just two villains. And the Joker is literally just Tim Drake

>>723439512
Reminder that the 3D Bruce Wayne model is actually a sculptured bust used only for the intro, recorded with some fancy filter.

>>723452385
Based practical effect chads

Would it have to be an Arkham game? I don't really know how you can do it. I guess Bruce faking his death could be his forced retirement and going into reclusion. And retcon suicide squad. What would the plot be though? An origin story? Would it follow the cartoons or the comics that came after it?

>>723439590
>>723440523
>>723440976
I'm genuinely sad that his run got cancelled.
I just like Jason.
He's way too cool to not be utilized.

>>723452315
Starro, Ra's Al Ghoul, Hush who was a clone of Dick Grayson, Bane, and the Royal Flush Gang.

>>723450706
I CHECKED

>>723452595
I see you just crosschecked the wikia without the slighest clue of their relevance to the series. I accept your concession

>>723452584
The problem with Jason is his fanbase is pretty much divided into two camps: the ones who want him to be the edgy DC Punisher and killing criminals, and the others who want him part of the whole Batfamily.
The two sides are mutually exclusive, so DC has no idea what to do with him.

>>723446725
>>723439252 (OP)
I remember liking as a kid,
and then I tried it as an adult and it was so bad.

I remember it having a simple auto combo like in Final Fight, but not even that.
And it's short as hell.

>apathy
>greed
>corruption
>power
>hope
>courage
>honor

Kino

>>723451543
>Miles is nothing like Peter.
Miles is almost a carbon copy of Peter. He's a color swap and that's it. Same personality, same strengths, same motivation. This was done intentionally, because the goal was to replace Peter with Miles as often as possible. He couldn't be noticeably different except for the addition - and not subtraction - of a few extra superpowers on top of what Peter had.

I think I'd rather have an Absolute Arkham game than Beyond Arkham at this point.

>>723440535
Considering none of the Batman cartoons since have been anywhere near as good, no. It was a product of it's time and the end of an era.

>>723440516
Most of his rogues don't really stick around. The guy who could walk through walls had his equipment malfunction and fell into the core of the Earth.

>>723457958
We needed to take away Arkham games from the American and give it back to the French Canadians.

>>723450012
"""Teenagers"""
Because most teenagers in movies are played by 20's something people.

I rather have wonder woman vidya

>>723457913
Miles is different to Peter in the sense that he's a mild mannered wet blanket / awkward teen whereas Peter used to be a nerd with a hot temper and a chip on his shoulder with some awkwardness but recent adaptations and comics nowadays have Peter also be a mild mannered awkward guy

>>723439252 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eAOgiGXVk0

I still watch this promo sometimes. Such soul.

>>723439252 (OP)
>mfw we'll never get Kevin Conroy as old man Bruce Wayne in a live action Batman Beyond
ftfy

>>723442050
Also makes bruce less special because he wasn't driven and trained, he just had a genetic destiny that made him a perfect batman.

>>723439512
Kids these days don't even have anything that's a fraction as cool as this. It's fucking sad.

>>723458323
Now, now. There is plenty of cool stuff being released. It’s just not to your taste.

>>723458372
Name 10.

>>723457913
>Miles is almost a carbon copy of Peter.
In what world? Miles isn't a nerd, was raised by his parents, is very socially outgoing, and he suffers from imposter syndrome. In the comics part of his motivation is to prove his Uncle Aaron wrong.
Peter is proudly geeky, swoons over women, and struggles with anger issues. He's obviously motivated by the guilt of him being able to prevent his uncles death who told him the whole code about great strength and great responsibility.

>>723458305
Bruce is also genetically predisposed to be fucking crazy. His mom became the Joker in a timeline were Bruce was shot instead of his parents.

When they actually tried to do something with Terry in comics in New 52, Future's End, they did a shitty wrong-future story that was both crappy and too edgy and basically sank any chance of Terry being used again for a decade. But hey, that was about a decade ago. So I suppose they could try again now.

>>723442278
The whole episode is about genetics not really mattering and anon completely took it the wrong way.
Such is the way of an autist I suppose.

>>723458636
lol no one cares about comics.

As Police Commissioner, does Barbara continue her father's policies on how to deal with criminals?

>>723458749
>Terry you need to rape Spellbinder

>>723458749
>>723458838
Jim should have just taken a page from Joker's book, put a rape chip in someone.

Sex with Inque
Oyakodon with Inque and Deanna

>>723442490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVAePIyC4kQ

It and Men in Black the animated series.

i too used to batman returns

>>723451029
Yeah he has fans. I'm not one of them.

>>723439252 (OP)
>>723439512
>>723439590
>>723439783
capeshit fans are subhumans

They would have fucked the suit up so hard with tacticool lines it would make my autism flair up to bad to play it

>>723452138
>Batman, Batgirl, Batwoman, Black Bat, Batwing, Nightwing, Robin, Red Robin, Red Hood, and Huntress all roaming around, now do they?

Notice how everything you listed after Batman arent called Batman? That's the difference. I have no fucking idea why people are OK with different Robins but not Batman and Spiderman.

>>723442113
There was an old Justice League Unlimited episode where a feminist Amazonian tried to kill all men with a magic crystal disease only to find out she wasnt even an Anazonian, but a human was saved by a male sailor who died bringing her to the island.

You cant do that on TV anymore lol

>>723439512
I hate the added chink shit

Did anyone else watch Phantom 2040 too?

>ten will always be a criminal
>Melanie opens a resturant and works hard enough to bail out her brother

kek eat shit Bruce

>>723439252 (OP)
>what if Batman was a teenager... and most of the show was about relationship drama
Only reason you retards like this crap is because you have nostalgia watching it as a kid.

>>723439252 (OP)
I desperately need a game with her in it...

>>723440523
>>723440976
Didn't they just immediately make him gay?

>>723458051
Kek

>>723463206
Terry x Inque

>>723461779
I need a slimy dommy mommy.

>>723461625
>and most of the show was about relationship drama
Not really, this isn't the board for it but the majority of the story telling was about the corruption Gotham eventually fell into despite Bruce's efforts, like TDKR it sort of highlights a city can be saved but needs to save itself to remain so.
Teenage drama is used to address that often, but it's mostly to show how screwed the future generation is due to the failings of the prior.

Bane's Venom become slappers anyway, Dr.Dorian's genetic experiments becoming splicing anyway, Joker's psychotic antics inspiring a delinquent subculture anyway.

The "best" stuff however has little to do with the youth, like Sneak Peak, Mr. Freeze, Talia, Inque and Blight's ironic fates, Mad Stan's rants.
I'd also throw in Superman, but mileage may vary on the tone it establishes for every moment since its premise until Terry getting involved.

The show actually uses the cyberpunk/flash forward concept well to address a lot of things without feeling like "a very special episode" or out of step with Batman media. Solid design work in that last area too.

>>723463328
Yeah but imagine the sex

>>723458051
That was fun episode.

>>723459219
Any other animated series with this style?
Besides of course MIB and Godzilla The Series?

>>723460906
I recall I did, but I can't recall the show itself, sort of like Aeon Flux.

>>723460573
Yes because thats totally inaccurate to the future 30 years from now.

>>723458051
do modern women still care if a guy is father material?

>>723463697
Extreme Ghostbusters .

>>723439942
Bullshit.
Blight, Shriek, Inque, Mad Stan (for comedy reasons) are all really memorable.
Spellbinder is great too even though i learned he wasn't a Terry original villain, just a super obscure classic Batman villain from Silver age.

>>723458137
We need Wonder Loli to save vidya more than ever.

>>723464129
Only if they are rich.

>>723463328
i remember seeing this scene for the first time when i was a kid, this shit somehow stuck with me till this day, not in a sexual way, just unnerving as hell

>>723439252 (OP)
>beyong
heh

>>723439252 (OP)
Who dis, unc?

>>723465260
You know, that Bangman Beyong guy

>>723439942
>no Kevin Conroy for Old Bruce
noooo not the heckin faggerino

>>723465626
I'm not much of a voice actor-guy but he really did a great job on Batman. Hell, the WHOLE DCAU cast did. It's kinda hard to imagine any other dubs even considering all the other DC animated shows that have been released so far

>>723442490
Children deserve good things which include media.

>>723439590
Cool. A character that should have just stayed dead but can't because, God forbid there ever be stakes in a comic book series, has gone past being "resurrected Punished Robin" and is now just a slightly edgier Nightwing. What was even the point?

>>723439252 (OP)
Grody

>>723459709
This

>>723439252 (OP)
the Mexican Batman VA had a longer more respected career than the American one. One was straight and trad, the other one was a gay freak.
TMYK

>>723441431
Also his life circumstances are way better than Peter’s don’t forget that.

>spider-man game was neat
>please more peter parker, spider-girl or spider gwen
>here you can have miles
>oh okay
>can we have spider-girl or spider gwen next?
>no, you can have more miles

>batman games were neat
>can we have batman beyond next?
>no, you can have gotham knights

>tfw no delinquent clown gf
This is total schwarbage

For me, it was Terry vs Batman suit episode

>>723441431
Miles is gay?!?

>>723471902
Did Jean Grey get another one?

>>723471708
Why Miles is so hated while Terry universally loved? What makes him a better successor?

>>723471243
That blonde girl is so hot. IIRC, her VA was pretty skilled.

Was joker right? Was this funny?

>>723472117
N

>>723472117
People want regular Spiderman, while Beyond not only proved itself with a whole series, the VA is really good, and the character has his own revolutionized suit. Terry is young Batman without parent problems, plus a flight suit.

>>723458051
The whole "explaining the egg baby to Bruce" scene killed my sides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdOOSkQv018
They even managed to make good comedy of such a gritty setting

>>723441567
>>723441763
Hey at least Damian can be a worthy successor to Batman without high-tech suit

>>723443676
Anon, that was literally Kyle Rayner.

>>723472117
Bruce was replaced by Terry in a more respectful and dynamic manner, having grown too old while there was still work to be done. Peter on the other hand was not given any such courtesy, Miles takes his place when Peter is still perfectly capable of doing his job and is basically pulled off-stage by the writers just so Miles gets to be in the spotlight. I don't know why but Spider-Man writers really just love to shit on Peter these days, I remember him being much stronger both in body and mind back when I was reading Spider-Man comics in 90s-00s, now he's basically a twink and has constant issues.

>>723439942
>Beyond's rogues weren't even that memorable

>>723472681
>Kyle Rayner
Oh yeah, DC potential man that gets wrecked in almost every story

>>723472651
isnt damian a homo?

>>723472194
Nothing Joker does is ever funny. But it would've been hot if Harley had done a few one on one sessions with him.

>>723472745
> he's basically a twink and has constant issues.
He is supposed to reflect the average whiteboi and his struggle, so that checks out for current generation

>>723472864
Still mad about him losing his Ion powers to a literally who.

>>723472973
No, you're thinking of Tim

>>723465626
How rude. Kevin Conroy is gay but he never made a fuss about it, he's one of those Good Old Gays.

>>723472651
>super advanced AI that's meant to keep Batman going long past the point whoever is inside it has given up
>can't lock its own pouches so an enemy can just reach in and help himself to Batman's bombs and gadgets
>doubly stupid when Damian was the last one to use the suit and is openly bragging about knowing where everything is kept
Also, Damian is only a worthy successor to Bruce in the "never had a normal childhood" department.

>>723472864
So edgy.

>>723473213
>Kevin Conroy is
Dead, anon.

>>723473004
yeah fuck off with that I want my Spider-Man with confident taunts and smartass quips making all the freaks of New York seethe while he fights them.

>>723473196
That is possibly the least inspired Gorilla Grodd design I've ever seen. And this includes every iteration of Grodd where he's literally just a gorilla without any distinguishing marks or costume.

>>723473213
>Sounded different between TAS, New Batman Adventures, and Justice League
Was that just him getting older? I remember him sounding gruff as fuck in TAS.

>>723459709
>>723471353
You are brown.

>>723473196
Damn, these Ivy and Black Mask designs are hot

>>723473572
His Bruce Wayne voice was extremely different

>>723473328
Yeah, DC whole appeal these days is to see if they can make their shit edgier so some comic nerds could post some tiktok ‘shocking, superman was raped in the ass by illegal immigrants!’

>>723473693
Nah, I'm saying listen to his Batman voice between those three shows.

>>723473525
He's suppose to blend in as a Gorilla, you only know he's not when he starts talking

>>723473670
>Black Mask
I think she's suppose to be Roman Sionis gf after he died

>>723443428
Parents can still have different hair color from their kids because every gene isn't always expressed. There's plenty of Irish people with Terry's hair.

>>723474056
Didn't Joker killed his GF in Origins? Or is it another one?

>>723439590
Remember how the Markham series flat out lied to people who called out red hood immediately and claimed it was a brand new character?

>>723474469
Probably another one, but I wouldn't put it past WB Games to say, she wasn't actually dead.

>>723472117
Marvel tried to hard to lean into "black Spiderman" instead of making miles his own character, in spite of the creators who apparently wanting a more Terry-Bruce dynamic. This and the fact that the ultimate universe became a fucking trainwreck in general really screwed over miles up until the most recent movies which do a good job of establishing that miles is 'A' Spiderman among other Spiderman

>mogs Terry in popularity, sales, critical acclaim and has made him completely irrelevant

Nothing personal kid.

>>723474827
Niggers are disgusting and not even human.

>>723474827
Oh shit is that Young Frozone my fridgga?

>>723474827
That was only after a complete story rewrite by Sony and a big picture treatment. Also DC just sucks at movies that are not animated

>>723474827
>we gave Miles lighting powers because being spiderman isn't enough and people like Static more

>>723472117
Terry's entire story is about how he isn't Bruce and a mutual relation between himself and Bruce where Bruce trains Terry to be the hero he needs to be, and Terry helps mend the old wounds in Bruce's heart that completely corrupted him as a person (reminder that Bruce completely froze his suit while Terry was in it and fully prepared to let him get beaten to death in the first episode of the show). It was give-and-take, not one or the other.

Miles' entire existence from the get-go was just taking from Peter. He got a similar set of powers, which is fine since that doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of things. He took over the exact same roster of antagonists with one or two new additions. He took over Peter's persona life in the Ultimate universe. Out-of-universe the writers at Marvel were upfront with the fact that Miles' character was introduced just because Obama was president-- think that you will about the man, but that's the stated reason why Miles was created. There wasn't an ounce of respect when they passed things on.

You'd think that things would at least get better for Peter in the mainline universe, considering that Marvel has not only gotten their cake but are allowed to eat it too. But that just doesn't happen. Because of One More Day, the writers basically get a free pass to just shit on Peter however they want, and any attempts to change that have been outright blocked by their editorial department that wants Peter to stay young and relatable for some bizarre reason, which in their minds means that he needs to be shit on relentlessly and isn't allowed to be given a break. How is it that none of his hardships were acknowledged until fucking One World Under Doom?

>>723439512
C.I.N.E.M.A. The problem with today's show is that they are purely political, they can never have the same TONE and ATMOSPHERE these shows had. They were made with a sense of GRIT and REALISM that today's T.V cannot portray because they are made for women who deny reality. Is it anyone's surprised that many Gen Z are realizing at how good and dark these shows were in the past.

>>723474827
>Oh shit! This character is wildly unpopular because we killed off a more popular character and ham-handedly shoved him into his role!
>Let's wait over a decade and then completely revamp how we want to handle the character and pretend that his entire existence didn't come about from killing off a more popular character

Meanwhile, Terry was right on the first pull, and also has a debuff from being a 20-year-old character from a series that ended 20 years ago.

>>723439252 (OP)
The problem with a modern batman beyond is that the Batfamily has gotten too big in DC, it's sorta hard to find a place for Terry without asking the question what happened to the 15+ other guys.
Bruce burning bridges with Dick, Barbara, Selina and Tim is fine because it's a small number. But Bruce burning Bridges with, Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian, Cass, Babs, Steph, Catwoman, his cousin, etc etc. And yet just picks up Terry?

>>723457962
>Considering none of the Batman cartoons since have been anywhere near as good
I know I'm 7 hours late to this, but Brave and the Bold exists

>>723475680
>But Bruce burning Bridges
when he was still Batman, he quit when he almost had a heart attack, he stopped being Batman for years until Terry came along

>>723475680
Beyond was part of the DCAU, it meant Bruce also turned his back on the Justice League.

>>723475803
Hmm, fair point.

>>723442608
Parallax had no reason to look as cool as he did.

>>723458323
This. It's grim seeing the garbage that is being pushed as kids TV in 2025. I am unironically going to make my kids watch X-Men Evolution, Batman Beyond, Batman:TAS, SWAT Cats, Samurai Jack, Dexter's Lab, Spiderman:TAS, Voltron, TMNT, Inuyasha, Asterix&Obelix and more. No new shit! No new ''videogames for kids''! I grew up with Lode Runner, Escape from Castle Wolfenstein, The Punisher(in the arcades), Prehistorik 2, Quake 2, MechWarrior 2, Red Alert, Warlords 3 etc. Fuck all new games aimed at kids. Fuck all new TV shows aimed at kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGN9fZvQhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrmUk2YUm14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTwxXTaISQ

>>723439942
>Beyond's rogues weren't even that memorable
Maybe to a faggot like you.

>>723476364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwVgB0MRCVg

>>723439252 (OP)
There was a Batman: Beyond Arkham game in development at Rocksteady and it became Suicide Squad. Ouch.

Don't feel bad though, it was a complete bastardization of the source material and you were going to play as fuckin' Damien Wayne instead of Terry McGinnis.

>>723476702
>There was a Batman: Beyond Arkham game in development at Rocksteady and it became Suicide Squad. Ouch.
No, the "Beyond" game was being made by WB Games Montreal and it was going to be about Damien, Rocksteady was working on a Superman title until Suicide Squad movie happened and WB made them start fresh with that

i want a year one batman game with nemesis system.

>>723474827
solid bait well done

>>723463328
god i wish that were me

>>723475803
>dedicates their last episode to bitching out all the people who didn't like the show and got them cancelled
>as if any of those people were actually watching it at that point

>>723439252 (OP)
He's pretty strong for some clown who thinks he's Batman

>>723477678
The suit gives him extra strength

My only issue witth Terry is how good he was at fighting straight from episode 1, before he even started to train under Bruce, dude could've started crime fighting easily with or without the cowl

>>723439512
That was actually pretty sick.

>>723458323
Cartoons are all made for girls and toddlers these days, if boys want kino they've gotta go to anime for it now.

>>723458445
I know all about the first, but what's that lower scene?

>>723473060
This is the real answer. People want to pretend it's a race thing, but it's absolutely a writing thing.

>>723478842
Its both. I will never give a character a chance if the character is nothing but "Oh its [popular character] but he's black now! So brave!"

>>723458051
>Ms. Pinto
Heh

>>723478969
Him being black makes the motive transparent. But if he was a well-written black man who had a compelling inheritance story, a LOT less people would mind.

>>723472117
i heard spider-man unlimited was supposed to be miguel in 20Xty6 but got boardroomed to shoehorn in petah.

>>723472771
I like how all the others are some really over the top brutal deaths and then there's "blinded"

>>723477986
He's a gothamite. Ofcourse he knows how to fight.

>>723479850
I don't see other kids his age beating the shit out of local goons

>>723443428
that doesn't make it good, in fact it makes it worse, they thought people would be hyped by the plottwist

>>723443481
Terry's father had his DNA fucked with so that he was basically shooting Bruce's illegitimate seed.

>>723478604
general zod cucking jor-el i believe

>>723480143
He was a local goon, a guy in that crowd would know how to fight

>>723455038
Just do a Batfamily continuity comic and a Red Hood contiunity comic. Everyone wins then.

>>723458445
>and I fucked your mom, Terry

>>723476532
kino

>>723481319
Watching this guy get deleted and starts reciting shit like a toddler until it's fully gone gave me some horrible dreams.

>>723481319
>Harley
>villain
She whooped her punk-ass granddaughters for causing trouble. Her redemption arc was long since complete.

>>723478604
Justice League: Gods and Monsters.

https://youtu.be/drBa6U1KnW8

There are several.

>>723481319
Fun fact, Dr. Cuvier(second row left column) is established in the comics to have been an assistant on Man-Bat's science team during his youth.
Like the Joker's Jokers or Bane's venom being sold as a drug by his caretaker, yet another Batman rogue ended up having a profound effect on Gotham's future.

>>723473213
He was gay, Kevin Conroy?

>>723439252 (OP)
A good Batman Beyond game would be fantastic, however I wouldn't want any western studio touching it until the industry is cleansed of the current retards infecting everything. You just know they would fuck it up in the most horrendous ways.

>>723483538
Bruce is evil, Terry is black, a black butler assists Bruce and by assist I mean does everything and turns him back to good, Terry's gf turns into new Harley Quinn and fights better than he does, got any more ideas for the modern audience?

>>723483913
>>723483538
Take your faggot circlejerk and fuck off to some other site.

>>723484157
Or you could add to the conversation like a normal person.

>>723483913
Too many to count. Add in sidequests where you have to go around helping troons go on a date or some shit, also political commentary about how the future leftists won, diversity is strength, the evil noozis and capitalism were defeated so everything is sunshine and rainbows.
Also Terry's girlfriend is the self-insert of some ugly cunt on the writing team and you have to play as her for at least a 3rd of the game.
All this on top of the game playing and running like shit.

>>723484157
Cry more faggot. You can't even say it's wrong. I bet you're excited for the next Sony Wolverine slop.

best girl

>>723443161
This
The writer who made the retcon doesn't get what Batman is about. The idea that any man could be Batman is the whole appeal of him. Why destroy that and turn it into muh special genes wank?

>>723443161
Whoever did that retcon has my eternal hatred.

>>723439512
Seriously though, why don't they make kids cartoons like this anymore?

>>723485413
>>723485079
It was Bruce Timm. Him and Paul Dini were largely responsible for Beyond and BTAS being quality. It's just Timm has some stupid ideas sometimes. It's a tie between Batcum and his constant need to force Bruce/Barbara shipping in all his works.

>>723452663
>tfw ywn impregnate Robin

>>723485079
They didn't, though. The entire point is that Terry became Batman of his own volition, rather than falling into the entire plot that Amanda Waller engineered to make a carbon copy of Bruce. They say this pretty explicitly in Epilogue. He had Bruce's genes, but those didn't mean squat since Terry is who made Batman, Batman.

>>723439252 (OP)
>>723439512
Fucking take me back

>>723477986
Went to Juvie. Probably got into a lot of street fights and fights in Juvie.

>>723486713
And it's a stupid plot because of that.
>Beyond's entire point is that Terry is his own man and his own Batman, not one of Bruce's orphans or his bastard assassin son or one of the Batfamily tagalongs, and that while their motivations are similar they went about dealing with it in entirely different ways
>but now he has Bruce Wayne's DNA, making him his son
>but don't you see he's his own man and his own Batman regardless!
Fuck off. It's a wholly unnecessary convolution of something the show was already about.

>>723487253
>Something Amanda Waller does is stupid, convoluted, and pointless
So, it's in-character?

>>723472117
Terry is so far in the future that fans can pretend Batman Beyond is an elseworlds story and won't interfere with their heckin status quo. Miles was ALSO an elseworlds character, but because they moved him into the main 616 universe now he's "shoehorned", now he's "black Peter Parker" even tough Peter LITERALLY has two clones of himself walking around since the fucking 90s. People are TERRIFIED of Miles taking Peter's spot even though it's apparent that will never happen and you should treat the pair like Kamen Rider Ichigo and Niigo.

>>723472745
Miles never replaced the main Peter Parker! he replaced Ultimate Peter Parker wo had a complete story arc that had to end with his death.

>>723487351
It's not the Amanda Waller Task Force X show. It's not about what Amanda Waller would or wouldn't do. It's Batman Beyond, about Terry McGinnis, and as a Beyond story it adds absolutely nothing to the character. It's not even an interesting or entertaining Batman story, except for the one scene with Bruce and Ace.

>>723439942
Even ignoring the rest of her screentime, the scene where Inque force-feeds herself to Terry to choke him to death on its own is extremely memorable for how fucked up it is.

>>723485079
>The idea that any man could be Batman is the whole appeal of him.
I'm so fucking tired of this bullshit. Same with Spider-Man.
No! No one can be Batman/Spider-Man other themselves and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. No one in the same circumstances would turn into them. Them being who they are as a person, down to the genetic level, is the decisive factor to become heroes in those specific conditions.

>>723487636
>It's not about what Amanda Waller would or wouldn't do
Correct. That story is about what she did and the plot that did not come to fruition.

>>723488347
>Them being who they are as a person, down to the genetic level, is the decisive factor to become heroes in those specific conditions.

Tell me about it! Every time I clone Spider-Man, the fucker turns on me!

>>723481319
Some of those are just henhmen, some are parts of villain teams.

>>723483001
You're talking about the splicers guy? That episode gave me real Cyberpunk 2020 vibes.

Dem Jokerz girls mang

>>723443161
Not only is it a shitty retcon, it's a self-contradiction.

>Terry became Batman on his own merits
>that's why we needed to retroactively reveal that he was biologically the son of Bruce Wayne and set up to become Batman from birth
Why not just let him be his own person? Literally the only thing the retcon adds is a bit of retroactive realization that Terry's parents are probably separated at the beginning of the show because Warren believes Mary was guilty of infidelity.

>mom has red hair
>dad has red hair
>kids have black hair

>>723489631
Heroism is a genetic trait

>>723489631
They did let him be his own person. There was an entire plot to kill Terry's father that didn't come to pass because Barbara came to her senses and realized that everything they were doing was fucking retarded and refused to pull the trigger. Terry becoming Batman was entirely by accident after that point, not by design.

Did you even watch Epilogue?

>>723489586
Most of the women in the show are hot. This was made in the early 2000s. I wish i was able to mod videogames. I'd love to mod Cyberpunk 2077 into Batman Beyond.

>>723489812
Yes, I watched Epilogue. My point is "Why does Terry need to be the son of Bruce Wayne if the moral of the episode is that Terry became his own person with his own unique experiences?" He could've just not been the son of Bruce Wayne from the outset and skipped the "Oh, this is all predeterminism." nonsense.

>>723439252 (OP)
>>723439512
>no Terry Batman game with flight and super strength and shway environments and bad ends for villains
>>723439590
>no Red Hood game where you just go FULL PUNISHER on an entire city's crime network

>>723439512
this would be too based to exist today
fucking take me back

>>723464129
yes, it's linked to their primal reproductive instincts
also helps that it makes you look more gentle without necessarily making you look weak

>>723442050
>>723458305
>>723458652
Regardless of results or lessons learned or implied implications, the fact it even happened at all is mega giga retarded and puts a sour taste in my mouth

>>723490013
>Why does Terry need to be the son of Bruce Wayne if the moral of the episode is that Terry became his own person with his own unique experiences?
You pose an excellent question. Why DID both Terry and his brother need to be born to a brunette and carrot head with pitch black hair?

>Oh, this is all predeterminism
And you can pin this on Gotham more than Terry and his lineage. Because it was nothing less than Gotham's inherent darkness and corruption that thrust Terry down that rabbit hole.

Terry should have fucked Chelsea

>>723450706
I was with you until the "you only play as Robin." You can't make a TT game and neglect that beloved core cast like that. If you want to have the other Titans join AFTER you defeat them in a brainwash battle, that's OK though. It's even pretty easy to do with Mad Mod being in their villain roster.

>>723450430
There was a couple SNES games, a couple NES games, and surely some GB games (GB had fucking everything back in the day).

>>723452385
no wonder it looked too real to be true all this time

>>723464129
If she's worth a shit

https://youtu.be/CDtFjg8_PWg
A SUPERSTITIOUS COWARDLY LOT

>>723491721
If batman was in his prime, would he allow this?

>>723491805
There's a Legends of the Dark Knight one off where Batman has to stop Joker from killing everyone working on a Batman film. The lead actor can't understand what drives a man to lead that life and gets the chance to ask him at the end, Batman just tells him good luck with his film and ziplines away.

>>723491721
>it's schway
>it's schwarbage

>>723458093
No fucking shit sherlock?

>>723491805
You think there isn't someone in universe profiting off of Batman action figures and T-shirts?

>>723476364
It's just sad how the people who grew up with 80's and 90's cartoons decided that they are too scary for children and make them ask questions from their parents so everything made now needs to be sanitized slop.

>>723491721
Man I love this show.

>>723491981
I love whenever they show off in an universe movie being made.

>>723493330
Selling bootleg merchs made by starving Cambodian kids is probably a crime so I'm sure Batman gotta have to break some legs

Only OGS call him Batman 2000

>>723439590
>earring

Fuck off

>ctrl f spider-man expecting discussion from the Spectacular show
>instead people bring up the brown error, again
I don't know what's more underwhelming, that you idiots aren't tired of talking about him or that there are human beings that like him, seriously, with no irony
Anyways https://youtube.com/watch?v=JNA6pzYpwH0

>>723487478
>even tough Peter LITERALLY has two clones of himself walking around since the fucking 90s

Ben was still dead at the time Miles went to 616 and Kaine was fucking around in Houston trying his best to not get involved with anything. We've also seen what they've done with Ben since then so probably not the best comparison.

>>723497785
>We've also seen what they've done with Ben since then so probably not the best comparison.

>>723491721
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ncj-wpBhr5E

>>723442050
>>723441747
I'm glad I'm the only one that hated epilogue. Even as a kid I hated that revelation and I was surprised many people online defend it. It undermines both Terry and Bruce as characters.

>>723452595
>Bane
>Ra's Al Ghoul
>Royal flush gang
You clearly didn't watch the show if you think Terry's interaction with these villains is at all like Bruces. Bane's appearance in particular is highlighting how time has actually progressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJtoAa5e5s

>tfw no season 2
>tfw no cybersix game
>tfw no gynoid gf

>>723439512
>When he figured out the password was April Moon and the episode ends with the guy going back to the doctor

>>723442050
Yeah, it was a dumb fucking twist. I just pretend it doesn't exist. It literally adds nothing and just makes things stupid.

>>723439252 (OP)
Proofread your posts before hitting the 'post' button.

>>723500038
more like cybersex am i right fellas

>>723500117
Lifelong torture ending.

>>723472117
Because Miles is a nothing character.
The ONLY piece of media that tried to do SOMETHING with Miles is the Spider-Verse films and I still feel that's the "bare-minimum" rather than any full potential.
Look at other Spider-Man successors, Ben Reilly, Mayday Parker, they all had something that set them apart and made them interesting. Ben Reilly was 90s cool and Mayday was this cocky athletic tomboy (and arguably the most canon successor), etc.
Miles is just a black version of Peter Parker. He's the literal definition of a DEI character, the thing people on this site (and out of this site) forget is that Woke and DEI used to be defined as FORCED diversity characters. If a writer has a genuinely interesting idea for a minority character, then they use that, same as any other good character. A good character is marked by being interesting, DEI exists to fill up a checklist, a diversity quota.
If you ask me, Miles should've been set apart by having his personality be radically different than Peter's, as well as giving him a few interesting ideas to make him actually stand out, like giving him a more martial arts oriented background. He maybe suffers more than Peter in the long-run in his life, make his story more like the manga Holyland, but eventually he gains a more stoic outlook on life and becomes far more like an unmovable mountain. I'd also make him a deeply spiritual character (or a character that BECOMES deeply spiritual).
Hire me Marvel, I will mog all your current writers (except the nu-Ultimate guys, they are doing great).

>>723498268
Why did Ben and Kaine fucking swap personalities again?

>>723497509
Spectacular should've never been canned. Fuck Shitney

>>723450094
You see Joker whack Jason with a crowbar in like two panels tops. They could easily kept him alive. Hell it's the explosion that technically kills him

>t. own the actual first prints of Death in the Family

>>723502361
Absolutely no one would care about him if they just called him Arachnigger
That might be both a positive and negative thing, but it would make it so much easier for them to establish him as a character that can stand on his own

>>723502361
But Miles has something no other spider hero has: the exaggerated swagger of a black teen.

>>723502475
>Why did Ben and Kaine fucking swap personalities again?

Kaine: quiere ser hardcore, y Marvel no lo deja.

>>723439252 (OP)
someone is making a fangame.. currently looks like a ps2 free roam city explorer, very rough.

>>723502475
Kaine fell into some goop and his mental retardation got cured so he wasn't a super murderer anymore. Only a casual one.
Ben got character assassinated and has false memories of Pete trying to kill him or something retarded so he became super edgy.

>>723484882
>he didn't fix her
>he didn't tap that

Terry is a Wayne indeed.

>>723503153
Ben's the one who fell into goop.

>>723504194
Kaine also fell into goop way back during Spider-Island.

>>723464129
They pretend they don't but they can't ignore their biological clock and instincts no matter how much they want to LARP.

>>723442050
Personally, I do think it makes sense that you need to be as autistic as Bruce to be Batman. Anyone else would have gotten killed off ages ago. You can't be one of the greatest superheroes in the world without sacrificing anything. I know Epilogue made a big deal about how Terry doesn't HAVE to make the same sacrifices as Bruce, but I feel that kinda cheapens what Batman is. Batman only became as exceptional as he became because Bruce gave everything he had and more to it. If he didn't go as far as he did, he would have been a lesser hero. He wouldn't have deserved to be a founding member of the Justice League. It's only through his sheer autistic determination that he became as great as hero as the likes of Superman.

>>723458323
yeah, we had it good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjI0TdvVbqI

>>723439512
>>723500038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xGeSso_45Y

>>723505407
>>723505506
MACBEEEEEEEEEETH

>>723463697
Jonny Quest was stylish all right, though the limited H&B animation makes it look dated.

>>723505407
Damn, you were faster than me.
Fuck you, but good taste.

Terry eventually gave up on it and became a doctor like his real dad.

>>723472117
The more apt comparison is Terry and Miguel, because both are successors done right. Miles is treated as a REPLACEMENT of Peter, not a successor. He's poorly-written, has the same powers (but better), has the same supporting cast/opponents, the same setting, and is just a less likeable character than Peter with less interesting problems.

Miguel and Terry are both great successors because they stand separate from their predecessor. They have different powers, skillsets, settings, supporting casts, and rivals. Terry is an apprentice to Bruce, Miguel is TOTALLY separated from Peter, but both work. They both bring something new to the table because they aren't just meant to be the original but better. They have different plotlines to face and different issues to overcome, using different toolsets to do it. Most importantly, Terry and Miguel are likeable characters with fun personalities.

>>723505706
I don't really think there's much Terry can do as Batman that Bruce couldn't do better, aside from yap.

>>723505083
how much of a time crunch are they on for these comics? the arts atrocious

>>723505843
Terry is objectively worse at basically all "skills" but he has the futuristic supersuit. So he's got a different set of "powers" than Bruce. Bruce is a better fighter, detective, and tactician, but Terry can fly, has super strength, and knows how to troll people.

>>723505843
Terry isnt as mentally ill as Bruce. When he ran into his old villians, he didnt just punch them in the face. He sympathised with them, tried to talk them out of it, even reached out his hand in friendship.

>>723506339
Bruce tried to be nicer and optimistic earlier on in his career. He only became more jaded after the timeskip between BTAS and TNBA. It took like ten or so years for Bruce to become a total hardass. And even then, he did lighten up a bit after joining the Justice League.

>>723439512
As cool as that opening was, the show was never able to hold my attention the same way that Batman:TAS did. Maybe I aged out of the target demographic.

>>723506219
Bruce originally created that suit for himself. He only quit once his heart problems got in the way too much and he forced forced to pull a gun. Also, being able to punch criminals good was never Bruce's greatest strength to begin with.

>>723506836
Yeah, I know he made it for himself, but the suit was never in his powerset (i.e. he never used it) and it's not iconic for him to have it. You're just being obtuse and ignoring the obvious differences between what Terry can do and what Bruce can do. This is like saying that web-shooters aren't in Miles's powerset because they were invented by Peter. Bruce is a trained ninja with gadgets, Terry is a teenager with an Iron Man suit, and the difference is fun

>>723481319
Henry Rollins was my favorite.

>>723507596
There is an episode that literally tackles this subject.

>Mind controlled for like a decade and no one even noticed
>Lois might have even died while he wasn't even mentally present
What did they have against Superman to give him such a shitty future?

>>723507596
Regardless, just having a higher powerlevel isn't enough to make him one of the greatest heroes on the planet. Almost everyone in the Justice League could hit harder than Bruce.

>>723505965
Ramos is just a shit artist.

>>723439590
Fucking hate this guy.

>>723487630
That was years ago, for years Miles has been in the main 616 universe taking the spotlight

>>723439252 (OP)
Did Bruce ever give a fuck about the villains that died in this? Because there were a lot of them.

>>723485495
The animators, writers and other artists that made it possible retired and didn't train the next generation and when they did, the corporate heads got so cheap that they pushed out poorly written poorly animated drivel to the masses for a quick buck. Same as any other American industry really.

>>723439512
I really didn't know how good I had it back then.

>>723509817
At that point, he was so jaded that I think it became harder for him to care. Most criminals stay criminals. Even if it seemed like they might get better, they didn't. Remember, Bruce was generally a lot more sympathetic towards criminals in BTAS. But things just didn't improve. The only reason most of his old rogues don't wreak havoc is Gotham anymore is because they're either dead or too old and broken to do much of anything.

Most of Terry's enemies ended up self-destructing. And Bruce was too old and tired to care anymore.

>>723506219
The thing is that it's not only the suit, it's the suit for the physical part and also Bruce in his ear for the intellectual part, but what makes it interesting is that it doesn't result in his character being done.
The suit doesn't make it so that Bruce has a flesh dummy that can just turn up in the pay-to-win armor, kick the villain's ass using Bruce's genius plan, and who then simply adds comedy gold commentary.
It's because Terry still fails, and tries to find his own way, while negotiating Bruce's input, that makes him compelling as a Batman.
Functionally you can say the suit and Bruce give him his powers and that's that, but an important part of it is, having been giving the suit and a mentor, he can successfully work with them to actually achieve something in a Gotham that also hasn't stood still.

>>723508139
I don't know why you're bringing that up. The argument wasn't about who was a great hero or anything. Just that Terry and Bruce have different skills and powers.

>>723503026
>Kaine: quiere ser hardcore, y Marvel no lo deja.
lel

>>723502475
>Spectacular should've never been canned. Fuck Shitney
Venom and Sandman's redemption arc, the introduction of Carnage, Hydroman, and Hobgoblin, the mystery of Norman's wife finally revealed...

So did Terry turning out to be Bruce's son ruin the series for you?

>>723439252 (OP)
I like Beyond but it feels like this is the most unfair nonsense for Terry 90% of the time
Yeah Bruce had some rough guys like Croc, Clayface, Bane
But most of the time, they were either stupid, messed up, or had a fatal flaw, so it was feasible a normal smart dude could beat them
Terry has
>literal walking nuke
>completely sane clayface, aka impossible to beat
>actual super mutants
>a mystic swordswoman with a dimension ripping void blade
Like even with the Beyond suit being cybernetic, how the FUCK does he compete
These are meta humans

>>723510441
No. I just pretend that detail doesn't exist.

>>723510441
Not especially. I know why people are mad about it, and I can understand, but I personally don't care that much.

>>723472117
Terry: Cool white/hapa chad
Miles: Annoying woke nigger.

>>723510441
I just ignore it. It's a stupid twist that came like five years later in a different show entirely and only serves as more Batwank in the end.

>>723510504
The suit did a lot of the work, plus Bruce coming up with ways to deal with most issues. Bruce was generally the brains of the outfit and Terry was always heavily disadvantaged whenever they got cut off from each other.

Plus Bruce tended to do really well against crazy metahumans in Justice League. I doubt Terry could have dodged Darkseid's Omega Beams.

>>723510739
Also, it's worth pointing out that a lot of Terry's enemies were kinda stupid. Like Blight was powerful, but he was incredibly self-destructive and unstable. That's actually how a lot of Terry's enemies went down. They blew themselves up due to sheer insanity or incompetence.

>>723472745
Bruce is not replaced. He literally was too old. Terry was Batman II. It wasn't a replacement it was a legitimate, wanted succession. Bruce wanted someone in the suit, Terry was capable of being in the suit.

>>723472117
Cus Terry was actually write as character, not just propaganda object.
Beside isn't better compare for niggers character be Static and Miles?

>>723505843
The movie proves this is not true. Terry defeats Bruce's greatest nemesis using tactics Bruce would have never considered. Terry is different, not inferior. He may not be as intelligent as Bruce, but he's just as if not more creative, especially when thinking on his feet. He's got his own methods and they work.

>>723507834
Dini said it was 2-3 years at most, and it seemed more like a Joker thing where it only took him over for short periods without him knowing.

>>723510875
No, my natively-spanish-speaking friend. The only common ground you can make between Static and Miles is the fact that they are black, and the fact that Miles also randomly gets lightning powers later on in his run. Their stories are nothing alike beyond that.

>>723439512
Capeshit intros will never be this badass again.

They did an episode of Kim Possible where Ron had to take over for a batman knock off and I only just realized it was a parody of Beyond because they're both voiced by Will Fredle.

>>723511103
And Adam West played the Batman knockoff.

>>723439512
This and the other DC shows back then is the only reason I'm still a huge DC fag. Spider-man was cool though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shu8CTGgTM0

>>723510993
Joker just happened to lose his joybuzzer and Terry retrieved it. That's not a tactic Bruce wouldn't have used.

>>723510993
The main difference is Terry is more street smart. Bruce knows the Joker is trying to get a rise out of him but never drops the act that causes that attention seeking behaviour in the first place.
Terry is self aware enough that when he wears the suit, he’s a human being and not a symbol, so he can actually fire back and completely demolish Joker’s viewpoint in 2 seconds and ruin the game

>>723511667
Not that Bruce would have needed to resort to that, since he could have just beaten Joker up. That said, it's funny how much Joker was manhandling Terry during that fight. The suit was always weirdly vulnerable to just being punched. You'd think the super suit would offer more protection.

There's a greater than 0% chance old Bruce wanted his younger self what was going to happen to Tim and probably caused a time pardox trying to stop it.

>>723511847
There was never a need to. It was rare for the Joker to actually back Bruce into a corner.

>>723443317
It's so fucked up when you consider Terry's parents for a divorce.

Come to think of it, how come replacing Warren's genes with Bruce's didn't give him black hair and blue eyes?

>>723512204
Joker had DCAU Bruce dead to rights at least once and he only got away because of some third party.
https://youtu.be/TEtb4pcae6w?si=xCV7CjWBIItK_XMM
Had it not been for a talking horny cheetah woman Bruce would just be dead by the Joker.

>>723512606
It's happened a few times, yeah, but in general, Bruce has never been in a position where he was so helpless against Joker that he needed to rely on goading to win.

>>723511847
It's so good how that fight showed how thin skinned Joker actually was. One of his insults was "couldn't you get a job at the circus?" or something like that and he just has a complete meltdown.

>>723512606
>Lex's "oh for fuck's sake not this idiot" reaction
gets me every time

>>723512973
In Joker’s defence, Terry absolutely ruined him, that part where he starts laughing at him was brutal, I’d just end it if I was Joker, you can’t come back from that

>>723439252 (OP)
I remember watching batman beyond as a kid so many times, it wasnt until way later in my life that i watched the "epilogue" and it completely ruined the fucking show for me. God fucking dammit. I still hope the main writer gets sick and dies a miserable death covered in his own piss and shit.

>>723514147
>I still hope the main writer gets sick and dies a miserable death covered in his own piss and shit.
>Dwayne McDuffie
Anon...

>>723512067
>>723512146
>Bookend
Cinematography, beginning to end.

>>723465626
I didn't even know he was gay until he died, even though the man was apparently very open about it.

>>723465626
nigga no one knew he was a fag until the final year of his life

>>723512973
>>723514101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph9OaXmB-dQ

I love how Terry got inside Joker's head

>>723485495
media faggotization, women working where they don't belong

He was right

Bruce had more unplanned children than the average black man

>>723517520
>BLOW IT ALL UP

>>723442896
Did you even watch the first season? The show makes a point about terry not being even half as strong, durable or smart as bruce was, but terry has several advantages that bruce didn't, like a family, the best mentor possible, and access to all of bruce's riches. He's also willing to put the effort, i don't remember the exact quote, but terry basically says that he knows he's the kind of punk that batman wouldn't have punched twice, but he still wants to try.

>>723467708
truth nuke. slop is an affront to men and women of all ages and must be excised wherever it is

>>723447302
i live in oregon and every concert has like 6 or 7 hippie chicks dancing like this near the front

>>723443317
the funny thing is, they really should have asked if this very specific scenario didn't happen to them, it's a dystopian setting where you can literally alter your DNA to become female (or a fucked up mix of human and animal), so accidentally injecting another man's cum straight into your balls as a fertility treatment isn't that farfetched

>>723439512
Remember, this was pitched to be about a teenage batman.
The writers were so good and creative, they gave us this schway show.


>>723485495
Because cartoons aren't made for children anymore, but hopeless manchildren who think Adventure Time and Steven Universe were the apex of writing.

>>723472990
okay cumbrain

>>723505123
biological clock? wtf are we, chris chan here?

>>723518330
>The writers were so good and creative, they gave us this schway show.
Batman Beyond and Metroid Prime are usually the first things that come to mind when deflecting the "it was a shitty idea" criticisms.
It's not the idea that sucks but your ability to work with it. Any concept that sounds like garbage during a pitch like 'fps metroid' or 'batman in high school' can be spun around into something cool with enough creativity.

>>723519717
Thanks for reminding me to check for SAFE MODE, there's a new episode

>>723518330
>Because cartoons aren't made for children anymore
Five minutes of looking up children's programming in your country could prove you wrong, which is why I guess you don't do it.

The irony of course is that the DCAU was made as much for an adult audience as it was for children which in any other franchise would have you label it as slop for manbabies.

>>723458051
why does he look discomfited by the positive female attention at the end
fucking hapa neurotics, mang

I've gone back and forth on Epilogue. I never realized that the black and white scenes where Terry leaves Dana or has the argument with Bruce didn't actually happen, they were situations that Terry was contemplating. Bruce's only actual appearance in the episode was when he made the soup, and there's no indication that he knew Terry's origin, though it wouldn't be surprising if he did. That's why Terry's later conversations with Dana and Bruce don't acknowledge any of the drama from those previous encounters, because they never happened. When you realize this, you understand how much of the episode is just Terry's coming to terms with his feelings.

Terry being Bruce's son is a really lame reveal. On the surface, it's WOW COOL HIS SON, but I now think that UGH, HE DOESN'T NEED TO BE HIS SON may be just immediately below that surface and not a particularly deep take either. Rather I think the message is supposed to be that in spite of everything, Terry became Batman not because of how he was created, but because of who he was as a person. Amanda Waller never gave him the trauma that changed him, Gotham did completely on its own, because Gotham needs a Batman. His parents raised him right. Terry became Batman of his own volition, against Bruce's objections, and he helped and saved people because that's what was natural to him. And when Terry comes to understand this, that he is not his genetics, he understands that Bruce has been a good mentor/father figure, and though Bruce would never prioritize having a family over the mission, his heroic actions did ultimately result in him being given a son whom he will be there to support and is there for him.

>>723517565
It always bothered me how inconsistent the beyond suits strength was. In some scenes he says it like a 10x magnification of his strength and he can bench press a car or like in this one karate chop steel hand cuffs. Then in other scenes he'll be trapped under some rubble or bound with a chain or get bodied by a big guy with muscles.

Its like they couldn't decide if he was batman levels or like spider-man levels of strength and it varied from episode to episode, and sometimes scene to scene.

>>723441867
Those look like the kind of guys batman beats up.

>>723439252 (OP)
>Batman Beyond Arkham
Would you play it?

>>723520762
Its only been my dream game for the past 10 years.

>>723489315
Yes, retroactively Man Bat was the first Splicer and his research led to an associate establishing it as a future business.

>>723520382
You likely jest, but basically the gag is emotional whiplash.
He'd thought he already failed and hung his head in preparation for the class hearing he and Blade were still the worthless delinquents they're pegged, but is overjoyed to hear things turned out well to prove his good character, turning to ever supportive Dana expecting her to be happy for him as well, and she is, but her and others are signaling arousal more than anything from the news so her headspace was a little out of step with his on what the news meant.

>>723439512
Watching anime nowadays, despite the insane amount of isekaislop out there makes you realize how North America just stopped fucking trying wtih cartoon openigns and endings, it's honestly disgraceful and pathetic, just a black screen wtih the names of those involved is the epitome of souless, the names go by so damn fast it's also insulting to anyone behind the production of said shows, I fucking HATE it.

We used to be on par with Japan... (Also because, well, some of these openings were also animated there, shameful)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcGNqrAtsgg&list=RDHcGNqrAtsgg&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqsgLxuMhLE&list=RDEqsgLxuMhLE&start_radio=1

Also underrated but, surprise surprise... it was animated in asia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRwFs6QcOHo

>>723510441
That's just a stupid retcon that's not even in the show so it's easy to ignore.

>>723439512
Don't forget me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrlYxTA0Wn4

Canonically in the same universe and continuity as Batman Beyond.

>>723520408
>I never realized that the black and white scenes where Terry leaves Dana or has the argument with Bruce didn't actually happen, they were situations that Terry was contemplating. Bruce's only actual appearance in the episode was when he made the soup, and there's no indication that he knew Terry's origin, though it wouldn't be surprising if he did. That's why Terry's later conversations with Dana and Bruce don't acknowledge any of the drama from those previous encounters, because they never happened. When you realize this, you understand how much of the episode is just Terry's coming to terms with his feelings.
I am both glad yet ashamed to have just now developed media literacy on a /co/ property I thought I understood in a sporadic thread on /v/.

>>723521449
Japan won
I can't remember when was the last time that I was thrilled or looking forward for a new cartoon release, and trying to catch up with comics is a nightmare when compared to manga

>>723521882
Getting started with comics is a SHITSHOW, if you wanna read Dragon Ball you just literally google "read dragon ball manga" and that's fucking it, start from issue 1, period.

>>723520481
yeah i think that was the greatest flaw with the whole thing (besides the retarded batman son twist that never happened)

>>723520762
>Batman Beyond Arkham
First mod I got for the first Arkham game was for the beyond suit so yes.

>>723521016
BASED

>>723520481
Although you're correct that's true, I think the major strength of the series was always the character writing and plot concepts. If those are enough to get you engaged than those kind of technical details can be handwaved.

The reason why a lot of criticism focuses on plot holes or technical details like strength being inconsistent is because the media has failed elsewhere so the viewers aren't engaged, and things like plot holes are more objective so critics latch onto that because it sounds smarter to say "there's this logical inconsistency" than "the story and characters didn't engage me."

>>723521994
the worst part is that there's actually some really worthwhile comics out there. but filtering through the hundreds of generic chapters is almost impossible, not even mentioning trying to follow the volumes, since most of the time there's different editions and storylines which are a pain to read on the correct order

>>723521882
How about now-ish?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXU209gn44

>Catwoman Beyond was an invention of the comics not the cartoon
Lame

>>723523206
the comic version is actually a reused concept they had for a second Beyond movie that got scrapped because Return of Joker was too dark

>>723520762
Short answer yes

Long answer, it's baffling it doesn't already exist given the groundwork for it to.
Gotham is a shithole, no doubt, so I won't act like the events of City and Knight were that far fetched but I honestly feel the world of Gotham Beyond lends itself better to an open world with routine havoc in the streets than its present day.
You don't need a contrived plot for Hugo Strange or Scarecrow to take over, shady people like Paxton Powers are already in power and flooding the city with every form of corruption there is along with the rampant gang violence from Ts and Jokerz.

The only reason I can see for devs being averse is preferring Bruce as Batman or fearing customers will and won't buy the game, but honestly it wouldn't be that hard to do a DMC4 I hesitate to say the more apropos Spider-Man 2 because that didn't leave the best impression where half the missions are a little before Bruce retired but is using the Beyond suit and the latter half are Terry stuff.

>>723523178
oh, that one is good, really good
but the ending was pretty meh

>>723482446
what in the actual fuck?

>>723523178
Sadly, that's an exception... and now more than ever the NorthAm cartoon industry is in panic mode, because they either do some stuff for very little kids or "DUUUDE SUPER GROSS OUT ADULT CARTOON WITH SEX AND DRUGS!" Fucking hate that shit too.

>>723477678
HE IS BATMAN!

>>723517520
> NO MORE JURY DUTY!!!

>>723439252 (OP)
BEYYYYYYYONG OUT

>>723484882
she was so goddamn perfect

>>723482446
this is a cool idea but it's kind of retarded

>>723505706
>Miles is treated as a REPLACEMENT of Peter, not a successor.
This was only the case in Ultimate, and I know nobody here including me actually bothered to continue reading the ultimate universe after it jumped the shark with the Maker. Post Ultimatum Miles has never ever been set up to REPLACE Peter. This is just paranioa from retards thinking the 2nd/3rd most popular comic book character could ever be replaced.

>>723511857
Wasn't Joker drawing off Tim's strength and experience? It doesn't matter if Terry's strength was augmented by the suit if he's fighting someone used to fighting stronger opponents.

>>723478969
Na its a writing thing.
If Miles writing was say on the level of Nightwing, that is to say Miles has his own city, enemies, cast, etc, he would be better received.
Another good example, before DC went to shit would be Wally West, he straight up replaced the original flash Barry Allen, but he was so well written that people loved him.
Miles WOULD be loved and enjoyed if he just had proper writers, sadly all he has are people that use him as a mouthpiece that can do no wrong, talk down to Peter and keeps getting more and more retarded powers.
Then again his origin was literally just Bendis wanting to make a black Spider-Man so perhaps he was always doomed.

>>723473196
Tim is not gay, faggot writers turned him "bi" so he could butt fuck superboy.

>>723525538
Tim Drake was a child and abandoned all his martial arts training after what Joker did. He doesn't have any strength or experience.

>>723525795
You're not supposed to think of it like that. In the episode where Terry meets Barbara for the first time, she's been retired as Batgirl for like 40 years but still throws a Batarang perfectly.

>>723525373
>thinking the 2nd/3rd most popular comic book character could ever be replaced.
Almost like he's a tantalizing target or something.
Don't forget, this is the same company that gave us Iron Heart, Lady Thor, and already successfully replaced Nick Fury.

>>723510646
>>723520382
terry wasnt asian when this show released, that is modernist woke revisionism.

>>723525972
Nick Fury wasn't replaced, there are just two Nick Furys.

>>723525882
She's the commissioner of the GCPD, she stayed in the game to some extent. Tim abandoned all of it completely to work on computers.

>>723526104
And how often do they use Nick Fury #1 now that everyone is used to Agent Motherfucker from the MCU?

The real question is, how the fuck is Bruce still alive in that epilogue
He'd be like 90+

>>723526104
>least dishonest arachnigger lover

>>723526239
Rich dude with scientific advancements? Ignore the brain damage and arthritis from years of crime fighting I guess

Sex with old Barbara

>>723526236
>>723526305
I'm sorry you guys don't actually know what you're talking about. Nick Fury Sr. aka the original, white Nick Fury was shown doing covert ops shit in secret wars, was the leader of The Exiles for a while, and eventually became a herald of the watcher. Nick Fury Jr, aka black Nick Fury secretly replaced his father as head of SHIELD for a while.

>>723527046
>let me describe exactly how I'm dishonest, this will convince bystanders I'm right and not from bluesky
IQ, etc.

>>723505407
Modern Disney could never.

>>723527137
>it's dishonest to speak factually
Okay. You're right actually, Nick Fury was in fact race swapped and there's no nuance or context whatsoever for it!

>>723527353
>nuance or context
There they are, the magic kike words.

>>723485495
Some decades ago, a veteran animator was basically begging new generation animators or anyone else entering the inudstry to read a couple good books for once in their goddamn lives to build some better perspective on WHAT to animate. What stories and characters should all that animation effort be spent on? Or at least dive into the passionately made classic movies of the past. Most simply did not and so their formation was lacking

>>723527046
>Nick Fury Jr, aka black Nick Fury secretly replaced his father
This is ridiculous. Like if Black Adam went missing and they were like
>have Black Panther do his job, they're basically the same right

>>723527480
STOP RIGHT THERE GOY, YOU'RE MISSING THE CONTEXT

>>723527480
You're going to love when you hear about T'challa's son, the next king of wakanda by bloodright being... a white boy.

>>723527592
I like how you're acknowledging the retcon but saying it's jewish propaganda because you dislike it. Nigga all comics are jewish propaganda and we don't have to like every single retcon by any means but they do exist.

>>723527760
>it happened and it's actually a good thing

>>723521882
I think maybe the industry bloat that was going on long before streaming was delivering some death blows plus the material cost of living on the west coast skyrocketing (the outer areas of jap cities are actually decently affordable) was going to choke out western animation anyway. But also, a huge difference that I don't think gets mentioned enough is that western animation didn't use that one good window of time it had to create more tv adaptations that could've launched even higher in popularity and staying power in people's minds. They were pretty rare compared to what television anime was doing. Western fiction novels used to have decent variety with a lot of good stuff a couple decades ago, but now the moment is passed.

A lot of jap anime that proved to have some staying power (take FMA as one popular example) are basically collaborations between a passionate writer who already caught some kind of audience (like a manga author) and the anime staff. These authors didn't have to be perfect at all, just have some passion to build on. And then the staff didn't have to stress and sweat so much over the important story beats. These different levels of collaboration helped each other out.