Thread 723450692

I'm not sure why people are treating ZA vs Time Stranger as this big thing. They had the unfortunate timing of releasing at the same time as each other but if anything Time Stranger looks more like SMT to me. It's not really comparable to Pokemon and the only reason people are doing so is because it has "mon" in the name.

That said, Digimon games seem to get bizarrely low reviews for how good they are. Like everyone I've heard who actually plays them has nothing bad to say about them, meanwhile every other Pokemon player you encounter is going to tell you about the slowdown or the bad graphics because it's gotten so obvious that even the average person is starting to notice. So while I'm not saying it should be a competition, I am puzzled about why reviewers always seem to go so hard on Digimon when it is by all rights an excellent game.

>>723450692 (OP)
>Digimon games seem to get bizarrely low reviews for how good they are
They don't get the Nintendo bonus like Pokemon games do

>>723450692 (OP)
The tendie bonus is unironically real. All nintendo games get insanely high scores because their cult demands it/ journos are millennial tendies. Time Stranger by comparison is a significantly better game but also not for everyone. Your average nintendo fan wouldn't have the attention span to make it out of the 6 hour prologue.

>>723451192
That does beg a good question though. WHY does it have a 6 hour prologue? There are plenty of games that are great without having to spend that much time on the prologue.

>>723451192
You'll survive.

>>723451518
Digimon Survive™

It's because digimon is still too jank for most reviewers.

SMTV isn't pokemon but it reviews better than both modern pokemon or digimon. Unless you want to claim there's some FATLUS bonus, Digimon is just not appealing to reviewers compared to Pokemon (simpler, easier to get into game) or SMT (more polished, higher budget and better balanced gameplay)

Jank + any sort of complexity is poison to reviewers. Pokemon is jank but it's not complex, SMT is complex but it's not jank, so reviewers are fine with them. Also Time Stranger is just not balanced well and both SMTVV and DQM3 mog it as a monster collecting game.

It goes back to the old Digimon vs Pokemon school arguments. Digimon fans are happy the franchise is finally gaining some traction while Pokemon is finally getting some backlash after years of coasting off the brand alone.

>>723451192
you know, saying shit like "wouldn't have the attention span to make it out of the 6 hour prologue" is exactly the kind of shit pokefags say when you tell them their games are retarded and hold the player's hand like they're a fucking toddler
two sides of the same coin, really

>>723451858
Thing is, Pokemon has historically been heavily criticized for having longer and longer tutorial segments each game, and even then not a single one of them has been 6 hours long. I'd say SV takes maybe an hour at best before you're free to explore the open world and do whatever you want. Yes, it's longer than it should be, but it's not 6 hours. 6 hours, what the fuck?

>>723451427
You do 3-4 boss battles and read a lot of story while they introduce the cast, world and time traveling shit. It just genuinely a lot happening during that time and it's fully voiced/ dialogue heavy.

>>723451596
Isn't there a FATLUS bonus thanks to Persona?

>>723450692 (OP)
>It's Official: Pokemon Has Beaten Digimon
the press has called it time to pack it up

>>723451192
>6 hour prologue

>>723451192
If this post is meant to be a parody then 10/10.

>>723451192
>All nintendo games get insanely high scores because their cult demands it/ journos are millennial tendies
79 on metacritic by the way

>>723452650
Does that mean the voice acting drops off after that point or is the whole game fully voiced?

>>723450692 (OP)
>excellent game
Am I the only person that thinks the battle system is insanely outdated in digimon TS
Like I would say its slightly lesser than persona and people consider persona as having a serviceable combat with VN gameplay
But when it comes to digimon, nobody mentions the simple ps2 jrpg combat and all people care about is the graphics and animation (which are admittedly good) and beelko's tits. Like goddamn its a good game but nothing more than an 8.

>>723452974
The game feels like it's 90% voiced. Some scenes were clearly added in post production that are just text, and they do that weird JRPG/ Smt thing where they just say shit like "AGENT" or "HEY" while the text plays.

>>723452984
I consider Persona combat particularly good for a JRPG, the One More system is extremely satisfying

>>723452984
It's not outdated but it is weird. There being 2 type advantage charts makes things a bit harder but also easier in some cases. Personas combat is total shit especially compared to SMT. There's no strategy or effort required

>>723452984
An 8 makes for a superb Digimon game.

>>723452984
>>723453129
havent played the game but using items not taking a turn extremely worries me. Like why would ever design it like that

>>723453337
Items don't really do much at least not for me. Anytime my digimon die it's because they took over their max hp in damage. They're also expensive to buy I can't see myself consistently using them at least not with how little money I make.

>>723451596
Review companies aren't one person, I assume what happened with a lot of the reviews is that SMT went to the JRPG guy while Digimon went to the Pokemon guy.

>>723450692 (OP)
>Digimon games seem to get bizarrely low reviews for how good they are.
LOL. all the recent digimon games have been utter shit. they literally had to copy SMT's battle system to get anything here. this is fucking pathetic. if you want a real game, then play SMTV:V. stop the artificial shilling.

>>723451192
You do realize how fucking tedious a pokemon game is right? You can clear a generation just by pressing A over and over (tackle)

>>723453337
I get what you mean, but for me, I was always really strapped for cash so I didn't really have that many healing items on me, so being able to endlessly spam items to be safe wasn't a thing.

>>723450692 (OP)
When was this article written, 2000?

>>723453789
It's a weird picture for sure because the art is ZA's boxart but for some reason the author just slapped pictures of Tai and Ash on top of it because those are the only characters he knows from either series.

>>723451596
Z-A is only 1 point higher than Time Stranger on metacritc

>>723454089
In fact the same exact person who wrote OP's article also wrote one called "I Just Started Playing Pokemon Legends: Z-A and I'm Already Disappointed" so clearly this guy just writes whatever as long as it gets him clicks.

>>723450692 (OP)
>digimon and sonic surpass pokemon and mario
strange times

>>723452959
It should be even lower since there are retards that gave this shit 9 and 10

>>723450692 (OP)
Digimon and Pokemon aren't competitors. Nintendo haters are so mind broken that they think you have to only play one or the other. Most digimon fans are also pokemon fans.

Cyber sleuth and its sequels really fucking suck, only trannies like it

A game about digital monsters fighting each other and all anyone talks about is OH MY SCIENCE LOOK AT HOW HOT THIS CHARACTER IS, MY AGP IS GOING CRAZY! ANGEWOMON IS BUILT FOR YURI GIRL DICKS!

>>723453679
Not really, the DS generation games are pretty hard if you don't grind.

Don't care, I'm eventually getting TS and not getting ZA.

>>723455425
Imagine someone playing Pokemon ZA and thinking "Yes. This was a perfect 10/10 game. I cannot think of any way to further improve this game."

>>723455664
>/pol/shit out of nowhere
Immediately disregarded the rest of your post

>>723450692 (OP)
>Digimon games seem to get bizarrely low reviews for how good they are.
Because they are not good. Decent, maybe even surfacing on good, but not good "good". At least, the one i played since 2015 are not "good".

>>723456539
What would you say is an example of a good RPG, for a point of reference?

>>723452984
For me, turn based games are solved outside of combat. The way you build your team have such a direct impact on your performance in combat, and that's a big part of the fun for me.
I loved Mephisto ReFantazio because you could develop and build your team with progression that felt satisfying and impactful. Digimon TS does the same, but for example Persona 4 got way too boring for me because only the MC could be customized in any meaningful way.

>>723456720
Skyrim.

Score: 70
I will not explain away or excuse Game Freak's bizarre way of constructing their games, nor will I claim that it makes sense for these AAA titles to be so incredibly stingy with rudimentary details such as 3D-modelled balconies in a city inspired by Paris, or voice acting. But at the same time, this is fundamentally a game that is once again about collecting, developing, and battling with Pokémon. That's what you do most, and that's what works best.

Score:50
Digimon Story: Time Stranger is very half-baked. After an incredibly slow start, and I'm the first to say that role-playing games take time and often grow enormously after a few hours, the colourful Digimon world is certainly fun to explore, but the disappointing technical aspects, the simplistic battles, the dull story, and the boring gameplay moments mean everything feels like half-baked fun at best.


Both reviews are from Gamereactor UK. No bias at all, right? What a bunch of bullshit. You can never hate journos enough

>>723450692 (OP)
Don't care Digimon better and less pozzed.

>>723457792
I mean the reviewers seem to be different people. The Digimon reviewer is Conny Andersson and the Pokemon reviewer is Magnus Groth-Andersen. Certainly odd that they have the same last name, but I wouldn't expect reviews from different people to be consistent.

Now don't get me wrong, a 70 to a game that is "stingy with rudimentary details such as 3D-modelled balconies" is still ridiculous on its own.

>>723457792
lol is this real? these reviews could be interchangeable.

>>723451427
Have you ever played a real RPG? Like, ever?

>>723458229
I just played OFF and that game was over in 6 hours, fuck a game that takes 6 hours just to get started

It's funny that 3 games with Yasuda as character designer have the same 'reset ending'. Devil Survivor 2, Cyber Sleuth, Time Stranger every character development, death, and destruction just never happened because 'reset'.

>>723451192
>people like games
>NOOOOOOOO STOP LIKING GAMES
You're just mad the games you like don't have a cult following and frankly I don't understand why you are mad.
Obscure things are cool.

Because people have been conditioned to believe Digimon = Low quality, Pokemon = High quality, so its hard to break that bias in their minds and just judge what they see in front of their face as-is.

Thing is that bias wouldve been well founded (video game wise) like a decade and some change ago but since then Pokemon has been on the decline and Digimon had finally hit their stride.

For example, they have the same exact score on metacritic but anyone with a brain can see that Time stranger is the better game.

>>723459419
>but anyone with a brain can see that Time stranger is the better game.
Why?

It's weird that Digimon is the one that didnt have canon monster on human fucking first unless you count cthulhu

>>723450692 (OP)
>I'm not sure why people are treating ZA vs Time Stranger as this big thing
I'm not. kill yourself for starting petty franchise war faggot. the ones doing it are ecelebs and grifters that use digimon to shit on pokemon
digimon vs pokemon was never a thing outside your dumb mentally ill westoid mind. japs never pitted one against the other

>>723457792
lol butthurt

>>723452984
Digimon TS could do some work in the combat department but it's an improvement over CS. Something I don't see mentioned often is the personality system, your digimon's personality is an integral part of building a good team. Some skills especially the really good ones connected to each personality depend on RNG so you can't get the best ones immediately, you also have to account for what your digimon does best and where to lead him personality wise , you don't want your magic attackers to be valor and your support digimon should be in friendship to get the best out of them.
Moreover you have the DNA digivolution system mid battle where you can have access to certain attacks by DNA digivolution mid battle without needing to permanently become that digimon.
The problem for me was the difficulty. The game felt easy even on hard and in mega+ you really only get the same type of battles but they'll last longer.
This was a problem in p5r too except for bosses where the combat boils down to weakness then all out attack.

>>723453648
>SMT V
https://youtu.be/-SbuOMzwl9M

>>723460414
>also think p3 is a disaster
Nigger.

He has no style, he has no grace!
This mon, has a funny face!
He can bite down
When he needs to!
And stretch his arms out, just for you!
Inflate his jaws just like a balloon!
This crazy mon just digs this tune!
Huh!
>ZA!
>Blue gator!
>ZA!
>Blue gator is here!

>>723460414
>i dont have an opinion, so here's a youtube video that validates me
pathetic.

He has no style!
He has no grace!
This 'mon has a funny face!
He can bite down when he needs to!
And stretch his arms out just for you!
Inflate his jaws just like a balloon!
This crazy 'mon just digs this tune!
Huh!
BG!
Blue Gator!
BG!
Blue Gator is here!

>>723450692 (OP)
How I sleep knowing both are abysmal dogshit

digimon gets a free pass for being low quality

>>723450692 (OP)
MACDONALDS WON
HOW CAN FINE DININGFAGS COMPETE

>>723461191
what the fuck

>>723461191
That low quality is more high quality than ZA.
Still PSP tier i agree.

>>723450692 (OP)
>Like everyone I've heard who actually plays them has nothing bad to say about them
I can tell you've never spent any time with Digimon fans.

>>723461215
Yikes. No wonder japs are dying sooner.

>>723453679
>pokemon
>tedious
You what.

>>723459419
A decade ago the new Pokemon game was Sun and Moon. Are we rewriting history and saying that was now considered a high quality game at the time? I worry people are going to try and rehabilitate S/V in another decade now, too.

>>723458098
>these reviews could be interchangeable.
That's not what interchangeable means.

>>723457792
That's pretty fair all things considered.
I mean when you summarise it it's
>pokemon is just the same solid foundation you always get but the graphics are a bit shit: 70
>time stranger looks nice but it's a fucking slog and doesn't have any depth: 50

The reviews are basically opposites.

>>723461305
That's an ancient photo, but I believe it's actually of South Koreans.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/mar/04/potato-parties-worst-kids-food-fad

>>723453648
>they literally had to copy SMT's battle system to get anything here
None of you have ever played SMT.

>>723461525
Watch this
>Pokemon Legends: Z-A is very half-baked. After an incredibly slow start, and I'm the first to say that role-playing games take time and often grow enormously after a few hours, the colourful Pokemon world is certainly fun to explore, but the disappointing technical aspects, the simplistic battles, the dull story, and the boring gameplay moments mean everything feels like half-baked fun at best.

Tourists need to make everything a social thing (they only look into it because it's popular this time) and turning it into a battle is all they understand

>>723461679
You now have a review that doesn't accurately describe ZA. Good job.
Also, you've made your original post look even more retarded.

>>723461649
you have to be straight up missing half your brain to not notice how much shit has been plagiarized from SMT. retard.

>>723461761
Disappoitning technical aspects, simplistic battles, dull story, boring gameplay moments. How does that not describe ZA?

>>723461679
Nigga, what the fuck are you doing.
For starters you said the reviews are interchangeable, THE REVIEWS. That's not saying that one could apply to the other that's saying the reviews mean the same thing.
Second even if you want to act like those apply to pokemon it would also mean that pokemon's applies to Time Stranger. Now tell me if this sounds right to your autistic ass
>I will not explain away or excuse Media. Vision's bizarre way of constructing their games, nor will I claim that it makes sense for these AAA titles to be so incredibly stingy with rudimentary details such as 3D-modelled balconies in a city inspired by the digital world, or voice acting. But at the same time, this is fundamentally a game that is once again about collecting, developing, and battling with Digimon. That's what you do most, and that's what works best.

6 hour prologue doesn't mean 6 hour tutorial plebs, the tutorial shit is over way sooner. The title coming in to end the prologue is just going to the digital world for the first time.

>>723461914
Have you seen this webm? >>723461191
Looks pretty "stingy on rudimentary details" to me.

>>723461794
Anon, a core part of SMT's battle system for years has been press turn. Not one Digimon game has that. It's battle system works more like fucking FF10 than SMT.
But you know what? Fine.
Name all of the similarities beyond it being a turn based monster tamer.

>>723457792
>>723461815
the reviewer isn't wrong. Digimon is still trying to do half baked SMT turn based combat while Pokemon moved on to real time.

>>723461961
>stingy on rudimentary details
>birdramon Is glowing like the fucking sun
No, you're a dumbass.

>>723461984
Yeah that's why FF16 is better than E33, right?

I don’t understand why people buy Pokemon games at full price instead of renting them when most will drop the game after about a month anyways.

>>723461815
How does it describe ZA?
You're the one claiming that it works so say it.

>>723461191
More going on in the background of this mount meme vid than the entirety of ZA

>>723462003
>implying digimon is comparable to E33
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>723461945
It takes 6 hours for the title to show up? That's still got to be a new record, I can't think of any other game that does that.

>>723462026
Because most people play them for like a full year and it would cost more to rent it for that long than to just buy it.

>>723462049
True e33 is worse

Are there any monster collector games that don't have mindless turn based combat?

>>723462105
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
DIGIFAGS ARE FUCKING RETARDED, LMAOOOO.

>>723461998
Look at the top right at 14 seconds, there's a balcony with a yellow grate and the grate instead of being 3D, is a 2D model that looks painted on.
Amazingly the highly specific shit about balconies in the ZA review actually applies to Digimon.

>>723462117
Yeah but they're abject shit.

>>723462003
yes, i havent played either and i can tell E33 is shit and FF16 is better

>>723462127
E33 is the tlou of jrpgs. It's for people who don't like video games but like this one.

At least your evolutions aren't locked to the final part of the game in pokemon.

>>723461191
I haven't really been using mounts, but do any of them have good riding animations? Walking around as the human at least has stair animations. The few I've used are either flying/floating, or running on the ground with dodgy animations.

>>723462149
They can't be worse than Pokemon.

>>723462169
>if i keep repeating it, it'll become true!
alright, the joke is over. go seethe about pokemon even though it already sold more. lmao.

>>723459419
>Because people have been conditioned to believe Digimon = Low quality, Pokemon = High quality, so its hard to break that bias in their minds and just judge what they see in front of their face as-is.
We call the "The Pokemon Bonus" and the "Digimon Penalty".

>>723462216
the high quality in question >>723461191

>>723462169
It doesn't have these bimbo designs with women showing their asses and tits everywhere nor do they have corny anime dialogue and pedophilia so yeah it's better cope about it.

>>723462197
Pokemon is one of the ones that has real time combat now

>>723462140
You mean the asset that clearly isn't pasted to the fucking wall because it doesn't move with it?
Jesus fucking christ anon are literally blind?

>>723450692 (OP)
You mean to tell me journos write about all kinds of stupid shit and make up clickbait headlines for it? No way.

>>723462053
People are throwing 6 hours around but I don't think it took me that long, it did suprise me when it showed up though.

>>723462241
>It doesn't have these bimbo designs with women showing their asses and tits everywhere nor do they have corny anime dialogue and pedophilia so yeah it's better cope about it.

>>723462140
And then look at it in this image.
This is why I hate you militant pokefags, you use other games as a tool in your desperate attempt to "improve" pokemon.

>>723462117
Unironically Palworld.

>>723462264
Not only is it pasted to the wall, so is the grass hanging down from it. They really fucked up with that balcony.

>>723462240
That's Time Strangers?

>>723462193
Pretty much all of the four legged ones like garurumon do

>>723462197
It's pretty bad. Most of them you don't even control your monsters completely.

>>723462262
The mainline games are still bad. GF can't make turn based combat or real time combat engaging.

>>723462352
He's probably confusing that anon with the one he's arguing with about the yellow barrier.

>>723462316
>>723462304
Don't ignore that post you cocksucking faggot. You can clearly see that it's not moving with the wall behind it. Look at the top corner it's overlapping the window and isn't touching the red wall in the first image but in the second it's touching the wall. If it was painted on that wouldn't be possible.

>>723462241
you do not belong here

I genuinely hope Digimon doesn't do too well.
I don't want them to lose sight of their real fan base and start adding niggers and AI generation to their future games.

>>723462527
You're like 10 years too late.

>>723462387
>GF can't make real time combat engaging.
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8wzS9Pfa_0

beat these nutz

It’s fascinating that the Pokemon hate is for the most part online and shows an extreme difference from how things play out in real life. Not that the criticism isn’t warranted, but the online perception versus its financial performance is incredibly stark.

>>723451596
man i wish smirk had been in SMTV

>>723462573
Where are the niggers in Time Stranger

>>723462573
I got what I wanted from Time Strangers
Hot women, cool dinos, and giant robots, while also not being a buggy piece of shit

>>723462582
Looks even worse than pokemon.

>>723462638
It's the same thing with the Switch 2 in general. From the discourse I saw online I wouldn't blame people for thinking Switch 2 was going to be one of the biggest flops in the history of Nintendo. And yet the sales immediately proved that not to be the case.
It just goes to show you that people being loud online does not correlate to reality. They seem louder and louder lately, but that's only because everyone else is getting tired of them and leaving.

>>723462638
Operating an online-capable device and being literate enough to write down your thoughts (if you have any if the first place) requires at least SOME degree of intelligence, you'd be surprised how many people fail to meet that criteria

>>723462638
Normalfags just have no standards.

>>723450692 (OP)
flop stranger was propped up by steamie cucks

>>723462653
>>723462527
Owen Dreadnaught from Digimon Liberator
Marvin Jackson from Digimon Seekers

>>723452650
That sounds terrible

>>723463369
actual content would scare a pokemon fan, true

>>723452650
So basically there's little to no content other than text.

>>723450941
Fippy Bippy

>>723463453
Is that content? Sounds like Genshin Impact where the "story" is just you watching cutscenes for 5 hours with like 1 or 2 battles over the course of the whole thing.

>>723463453
>three bosses and a ton of story I a span of six hours is content
You're definitely too young to be here.

>>723452959
From what I've seen, it looks like a 60/100

>>723450692 (OP)
Youtube decided to spoil me the final bosses of BOTH GAMES at the same time, amazing.

>>723463634
says pokecuck

>>723463692
Pokemon being older than Digimon but whatever.

>>723463662
Why on earth do you rate games out of 100 instead of 10?

>>723463031
>not a nigger
>not in Time Stranger
Concession accepted

>>723463684
The pokemon one isn't really a spoiler. I mean, we all knew Zygard was going to be the focus.

>>723463684
The image says it all. White men enjoy digimon and niggers eat pokeslop.

>>723462117
Palword

>>723450692 (OP)
Both games are horrendously expensive. Are either of them worth it? I'm a bit tempted to play one of them.

>>723463684
Left isn't a spoiler
THIS IS A SPOILER.

>>723463742
He said 10 years too late, time stranger didn't release 10 years ago.

>>723451192
I've known it was real since 2006, when Twilight Princess got an 8.8 from GameSpot (lolgamespot) and the fans went INSANE, sent the guy death threats, tried to get him fired and more.
8.8 was a very fair score for Twilight Princess. It was a bit generous if anything.
And I knew from that moment on that to Tendies, it's not about the game.
You can release joke-tier trash like ZA, a game that truly deserves 5/10, and they'll lose their minds over it. To them it's a 12/10 just by virtue of being POGEYMANS and you're wrong for not liking it.
Even when it's a wholly mediocre product that looks like it would be at home on the Wii.

>>723463684
The difference of both monsters is fucking amazing.

>>723450941
FPBP

>>723463684
>OMG THE FINAL BOSS OF POKEMON Z-A IS SO UNEXPECTED!
NIGGA HOW IS THIS A SPOILER!!?!? It's like saying "OMG, the final boss of Legends Arceus is Arceus"!
It's written on the fucking cover!

>>723463860
>tried to get him fired and more.
The irony being it was Sony that got him fired in the end after their fans and the company went on a tantrum.

>>723463873
Tell me about it.
>generic purple man
>an actual pokemon

>>723463930
>generic purple man
Huh?

>>723463904
Oh right, it was the same guy from the Kane & Lynch drama. Crazy that both things happened in the same year.

>>723463962
What's even crazier is that there was another situation with Uncharted 2 getting a 9 or so that sent fans into an absolute state.

>>723450941
>>723463608
>>723463882
>schizoposting again

>>723451427
6hrs prologue isnt much for a jrpg though.
Mouthbreathing normies like you need to leave the hobby or should at least be ostracized and laughed at.

>>723450941
FPBP

>>723464013
It's just weird to look back on all of these things and they happened in such quick succession, you'd expect they'd be years apart but no. It feels like gaming drama is much slower these days in comparison.

>>723450941
fpbp

>>723463748
>>723463887
>You cannot expect a plot twist
>You cannot expect a new Zygarde form
okay

>>723464078
Who has time for that? Do you not have a life?

>>723464138
Dude, it's not like he's showing mega Zygarde it's a form that was put in a game like 10 years ago.
It's not a spoiler.

>>723463369
>AAAAAAHHHH WHY DOES THE GAME CALLED "DIGIMON STORY" HAVE A STORY?!?!?!?!? MASUDA PLEASE SAVE MEEEEE!!!!!!
btw time strangers has a "skip cutscene" button that allows you to skip all the story unlike sun and moon and other pokeslop. Something that is still embarrasingly missing in modern pokemon games, like scarlet and violet or legends, since the majority of the story are text boxes that don't count as a cutscene for some retarded reason and can't be skipped.

>>723450941
fp?
bp.

>>723464078
Most JRPG prologues end after about an hour max

>>723464279
If you need a skip cutscene button for an incredibly small amount of dialogue the problem is on you.

>>723464381
>modernpoke slop
>incredibly small amount of dialogue
not a single pokemon game has come out in the last 10 years that doesn't have at least 2 hours of introduction before they let you out of tutorial hell and you can roam free

>>723464279
the newest pokemon game also has a skip button if you want to brag about that. lol.

>>723464484
>not a single pokemon game has come out in the last 10 years that doesn't have at least 2 hours of introduction
Anon, the pokemon game with the longest start up is SM and that's like half an hour. Two hours in and you're already pretty much free roaming.

>>723464492
>the majority of the story are text boxes that don't count as a cutscene for some retarded reason and can't be skipped

Pokemon fans are the Disney adults of videogames.

https://youtu.be/uQylP2tX9pY?si=QPUAlSbzHmCfFCpU

It's somehow worse than the previous games.

>>723464594
Oh, it's Disney adult fag

>>723464748
Oh boy, another youtube video.

>>723450692 (OP)
Snoys just searching for new ammo against Nintendo after Sonic Racing Crossworlds failed to beat Mario Kart. They don't care about Digimon

>>723464574
>the longest start up is SM and that's like half an hour
>SM
>half an hour
world's most disingenuous post.

>>723464748
once again >>723460840

>>723464793
The game costs 80€. I'm not buying this fucking trash.

you will buy my game

>>723464826
Don't sign your posts.

>>723450692 (OP)
>That said, Digimon games seem to get bizarrely low reviews for how good they are.
Cybersleuth was genuinely pretty bad. While Time Stranger improves in a lot of aspects, the core gameplay is still weaker than Pokemon.

>>723464853
I feel like they just make videos and watch each other's videos in a vicious cycle.

>>723464948
Is it weaker than THIS Pokémon? Because PLA and ZA aren't anything like the mainline ones

>>723464914
if I buy the ultimate edition do I get an ultimate paizuri from this angelwoman?

ZA's combat is virtual dogshit

>>723464981
both PLA and ZA are unironically better than the main gen pokemon games.

>>723465031
>Angelwoman

>>723464981
Yes, by a long shot.

>>723463714
I don't, but meracritic does and I'm staying on topic

>>723464981
Sure. People are put off by having to consult a chart to find out how to get the digivolution they want then go 20 times through digivolution and de-digivolution to get the stats to make it happen.

>>723465095
>charge and spam the same move over and over again to win
>better than the mainline games

>>723450692 (OP)
I watched the digimon show right up until that black devil mon, I never engaged with it again after that.
I keep forgetting digimon exists but /v/ mentions it every now and then so I remember that bizarre opening theme song to this day.

>>723465235
now tell me what you do in digimon games

>>723465302
Excuse the fuck me? When did I spoke about Digimon here? Digimon is also liquified dogshit

>>723465328
>get called out
>abandon what you're defending because you never played it in the first place
Tale as old as time.

>>723464872
And I'm not watching your fucking youtube video.

>>723465371
>Pokefag can't even counterargue and instead has to deflect constantly.
Now THIS is a tale as old as time.

>>723464872
Then don't buy time stranger if it's too much for you.

>>723465424
now tell me what you do in smt games

>>723464948
>the core gameplay is still weaker than Pokemon
the core gameplay of pokemon and it's systems are great for competitive, but the main game rarely utilizes it to it's fullest potential. Like in scarlet and violet is the champion fight or the battle against the professor forcing you to really engage with the gameplay systems, or are you still just pushing the strongest attack button on your pokemon like always? Because for me it was the latter, the entire game was just braindead easy. I've heard the dlc has a higher level of challenge but I'm not paying extra for such a shitty product, the main story should already have at least SOME amount of engaging gameplay.

>>723465328
>SAAR BLOODY BASTARD THE FUCK ME

I like Pokefags salty because Charlie uploaded a video saying he wasn't going to play the new pokemon game and instead he was enjoying Digimon.

>>723465424
You have to post a valid argument to counter first

>>723465371
Called out?? I just asked if its weaker than PLA and ZA. I agree that the mainline games are superior gameplay wise.

>>723451596
>Praise for DQM3
Based opinion, and a proper explanation for the current monster tamer genre. 4chan just hand waives jank and obtuse design away because they like it, but most people cannot stand it. Just look at how much people are spitting on Silksong VS how hard /v/ tries to defend it to see the difference between this echo chamber and real life.

>>723465438
I heard so much "it's kind of growing on me" these past days on everything Pokemon related it's hilarious, it's all like "at first I thought it was fucking garbage, but now it has grown on me and I think it's okay" with basically everything about the new game.

>>723465438
>t. the mindbroken pokeschizo humiliation ritual cycle

>>723465470
Who?

>>723461191
Lol, lmao even

>>723465470
I didn't even know Charlie plays games, I thought he just uploads videos about how this situation is crazy and talks into a camera for 15 minutes

>>723465452
We end it thus.

>>723464078
>normies reeeeee
>me proud kekistani

>>723465525
The guy with the boring voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN2syg1EBOU

>>723465515
It's almost as if seeing things in motion changes how you view it.

I like e-celb salty because fuck me very much make me open wallet give him his cut

>>723465464
SAAAAAAAR!!!! HOW AM I GOING TO BUY THIS GAME SAAAAR!!!! IT COSTS 80000 RUPEES!!!! SAAAAAAR!!!! HOW AM I FEEDING MY VILLAGE NOW SAAAAR

>>723465575
Oh the guy who's girlfriend cucked him.

>>723465515
>listening to people who don't play games vs the one's who do

>>723465592
and like in the game, they are both wrong AND retarded.

Asmongold hates this game
Charlie hates this game
More and more famous e-streamers hate Pokemon

Palworld won
Digimon won

>>723465628
You know how little that narrows things when we are talking about youtubers?

>>723465686
Okay, the guy who's girlfriend cucked him and he finally found a use for his sex toy collection.

>>723465679
>the intended audience likes it
Oh no, how will we ever recover?

>>723465727
40 year old virgins like the game?

>>723465605
Excuse the fuck me? When did I spoke about sneeding my village? your village is liquified Indian food

>>723461191
>THIS is why Digikeks never post webm's of their "high quality game"
For as bad as Pokemon gets, Digimon always manages to slink lower. Impressive really.

>>723465723
... OH THE CONTENT COP GUY!

>>723465763
Shut the fuck up you disgusting Paki

>>723465424
>>723465541
now let's see the SMT games

>>723465756
Yeah, except for asmongold because he didn't play it

>>723465816
Asmongold isn't a virgin. Stop projecting

>>723465796
I really wish I saved that SMT4 spreadsheet video, god it was funny.

>>723465795
Excuse the fuck me? EXCUSES THE FUCKIMG ME IS BLOODY FUCK BITCH I FUCK YOU EXCUSE YOU FUCK ME BLOODY

>>723465864
>leave the e-celeb alone
you’re a brown tranny

>>723465796
The biggest thing I have with these games is that I don't like the designs of any of the monsters except the giant green cock monster in a golden wheelchair but that one is because it's fucking funny. The games look very good.

>>723465876
You mother benchod paki goat fucked.

>>723465864
>projects
>stop projecting!

>>723462117
Most use turn based combat, if you want complex try for;
>Monster Sanctuary
Each monster has its own RPG skill tree and the game has tons of synergy, plus monsters all have field abilities that make the game into a metroidvnia. Great team building and complexity.
>Siralim Ultimate
Over 1500 monsters each with their own unique ability and fusion/artifact creation makes it one of the most complex team builders out there. Graphics are simple and its basically a dungeon delving game but you will not find a better game for grind, complexity and getting more options/power as you progress.
>Aethermancer
New-ish game in EA from the same people who made Monster Sanctuary. Open world is real time with ambush and exploration, getting into a fight makes it into 3v3 turn based. It's a rogue-lite monster tamer that is very tactical and has complex mechanics for mana/energy generation and cost for using monster powers, feels like it takes a lot from magic/hades/pokemon and makes it into something unique.

Try any of those if you want complexity.

>>723465864
There is no way a woman would ever be able to endure his stench long enough to have sex with him, get real.

>>723461305
Go back to walmart for your snack cakes, Jobe.

>>723450692 (OP)
I didn't know it was a thing either, but now that I do I'm going to go and buy Time Stranger.

>>723465939
FUCK ME EXCUSE? YOU FUCK ME EXCUSE BLODDY BENCHOD BASTARD BITCH BLODDY EXCUSE???

>>723465938
How can you not like Matador's design

>>723461508
Rewrite? I didn't know a single person who disliked Sun and Moon, retard

>>723457792
>Pokemon has a solid foundation and is ultimately fun to play even if the graphics are bad
>Digimon is pretty but it’s shallow and boring

If anything he underscored Pokemon

>>723466036
Little Busters?

>spam moves to win
>your pokemon can get stuck in walls
>$70+$30 dlc
>somehow this got 10s

>>723466029
>job skelton
do smtrannies really

>>723466029
Because it doesn't feels like a monster to someone that lives in Spain like me, we have like multiple Matadores like that just hanging out around, funny skeleton people, very kind too.

>>723466103
Hee-what the fuck, skeletons are real?-ho

>>723465470
Isn't he also protest against ZA (not) day 1 $30 DLC. Is he buy Time Stranger DLC?

>>723466025
Terrorisit paki goat fucker benchon aaah your mother go pray to allah you goat fucked benchid

>>723465572
He's right, though.

>>723466154
Of course he's going to. He probably has the anime music pack too.

>>723465938
you don't fuck with no jack frost no mothman no nothing?

>>723466079
I don't think anyone is going to know whatever faggy e-celeb Little Busters is supposed to be

Sir Asmongold agrees with me.

>e-celebs
>monsterfag autism
>tranime
>brown esl babble
eveytiem

>>723461191
I love this dumb goofy alligator so fucking much bros

>>723466081
you keep saying "spam moves to win" as if that wasn't literally every single jrpg. you're just saying words.

>>723466280
you can not spam generic moves and win in every rpg my dude. try playing nocturne and only using the attack button, see how far you can get.

>>723466280
>has to lie to prove a point
Yeeep. You're a leftard.

>>723466215
No, I don't like Jack Frost and his variants or Mothman, I just don't like the general style.
Note that I am not saying is a bad style, I don't think it is, I am talking about my tastes, I still tried and finish Persona 4 and I had a fun time, but the monsters just don't do anything to me.

>>723466081
I still remember playing Violet and I was hopping around on roofs as I like to do in video games, and somehow I jumped on to a place I wasn't supposed to go and got stuck in a falling animation and couldn't move. I thought great, now I'm gonna have to reset the game, but after a few seconds the game suddenly faded to black and teleported me back to solid ground. Which means they knew that kind of glitch was in the game but instead of fixing it to not happen at all they just stuck an automatic teleport in there. That moment was like an encapsulation of GF's entire design philosophy with these games.

>>723466330
>>723466372
>try playing nocturne and only using the attack button, see how far you can get.
ENTER

>>723466372
>/pol/shit out of nowhere
Holy seethe LMAO

>>723466405
Translate that to hindi please.

>>723466103
Lmao the skeleton guys in nocturne had an American equivalent it's not some sort of fucking Latin American Mexico cactus occurence.

>>723466280
In Digimon Time Stranger for example, bosses has the ability to invert their weaknesses or put shields that protects them from either physical attacks OR magical attacks, not to mention that when they charge a powerful attack, you have to hit them in a weak spot in two turns or they will annihilate you with that attack, but that weak spot might have different weaknesses than the rest of the body, so you have to be changing strategy while fighting a boss.

>>723466493
DISNEY, SUE THESE GUYS

>>723466397
Well I do agree with you that Mara is funny as fuck so at least we can share our appreciation of that one.

Anyone try ZA multiplayer? I don't think people mention it because Time Stranger don't have PVP.

>>723465679
Pokemon will sell more regardless of e-celebrities and their weird and forced push for digimon.

>>723466405
Anon, most games have something like that. In Elden Ring for example it kills you if you're falling for too long.
It's called good game design to prevent any potential softlocks that make it through.

A motherFUCKING toilet

>>723462045
yeah but at least you can go and see the shitty entirety of ZA up close. in TS you can explore 15% of the areas you see

>>723466525
Anon, Digimon has like 7 types not counting the weapon triangle.
Inverting weaknesses isn't going to stop the spam especially if you have a type less move

>>723466553
>niggerfying a perfectly good meme that drove the exact same point

>>723466372
>leftard
go outside

>>723466528
Smt just straight up has a Mickey mouse and Donald duck.And beetlejuice, Catherine (the car) and a shitton more especially once it gets more subtle and weird. Digimon is full of shit like this too I love it. Devimon is Batman, SkullMeramon is Ghost Rider, Tokomon is the dog from dark crystal etc.

Pretty sure Matadormon is based on the SMT demon.

>>723466405
>game has softlock protection
>”and that’s a bad thing”

>>723465679
Digimon is 4chan coded and its recent popularity is actually organic
meanwhile poketurds are forced to shit up digimon threads and hire pokejeets to shill Z-A lmao

>>723466570
>this scares the indian

>>723462527
>I don't want them to lose sight of their real fan base and start adding niggers and AI generation to their future games.
The creators of Digimon are a black dude and an indian woman.

>>723466629
literally every point made in this post is wrong. Like every single one.

>>723465796
For me it's the witch whore.

>>723466570
I hate it but I love literal shit Digimon

>>723466629
>type less move
that shit is barely going to hurt the boss

>>723466453
>they stopped replying
lmaooo. smtfags are actual hypocrites.

>>723450692 (OP)
Digimon signed up for this battle decades ago and lost and will be periodically reminded of that like the mgk of vidya.

>>723466689
Pokefags spent years collecting shinys and moving them from game to game, and collecting super expensive cards, they literally CANNOT let the popularity of Pokemon fall down, they have to ensure it's still the most popular franchise no matter what.

>>723466772
the real issue is that they turned ferraligtr into a fucking toilet. i wouldn't care if it was a new mon, but not my boy, he didn't deserve it...

>>723466740
>He doesn't know about ENIAC and Atanasoff

>>723466772
That's because the literal shit was made specifically to be a literal shit, while Feraligatr wasn't made to be a toilet, it was made to be a cool crocodile Godzilla... and now he looks like a toilet.

>>723463887
Shut the fuck up retard, the original poster is retarded as Zygarde isn't the boss, but so are you. The final boss is Lumiose Tower itself so yes, it is unexpected.

>>723466740
fuck off back to trannycord leftoid piece of shit

>>723466858
Let me get this straight. You think the reason people want Pokemon to stay popular... is so they can keep their shinies?

>>723465438
and you had to post the most inoffensive design instead of shit like mega starmie or pyroar why exactly?

>>723466998
Everyone likes Starmie you are fighting a losing battle trying to complain about it

>>723466772
Leave my boy out of this.

>>723467037
>everyone

>>723466894
Nobody gives a fuck about libershit.
See: libershit isn't in TS.

>>723467164
retard

Pokemon is the best franchise in the world!

For a game that begin as tamagotchi toy to raising and battling monster with your friend, Digimon game really lack multiplayer element.

>>723467227
>No reverse image search results

>>723451596
>DQM3
>Balanced
Completely disregarded everything in your post.

>>723461191
it's not a billion dollar franchise

>>723466743
Nah, the numbers are off but the argument is sound. There's about 11 types, 10 not counting the null type. 7 attributes but Free, Unknown, Variable, and No Data are literally all the fucking same so it's just the data > vaccine > virus triangle that matters.
Because Digimon retain generic moves you can just have one of every type for coverage and spam them appropriately.

Changing resistance doesn't fucking matter either since it doesn't work like it did in CSHM which was more like a simplified pokemon so it's piss easy to follow changes unless you're literally inbred. Null moves just always deal normal damage so it's always a good option if you are inbred.

>>723467227
Insanely based

>>723450692 (OP)
It's just the irrelevant palfags

>>723465679
TRVKE

>>723467227
WE CANT COMPETE WITH CONSOOMERGOD

>>723467556
That's Sword and Shield. You can't even post the right game

So who's the hottest character of each franchise? No one here REALLY cares about the games, we don't play them because we spend our free time here crying about stupid shit, so who cares.

>>723465679
>suddenly you should care what ecelebs think
lmfao

>>723461191
>>723467556
Reminder that pokemon has like a 13million budget lmao. They nickle and diming the fuck out of people.

>>723467678
Gardevoir, next question

>>723451596
shill me on dqm. what's good about it, which games should i play and which ones should I avoid. I've only played dq4, 8 and 10 btw, I know nothing beyond that.

>>723467662
this is digimon dummy

>>723467556
man...

>>723467227
Good goycattle consume the slop!

>>723467718
That's not what that means anon.
Now they would be if they had multiple costumes as dlc, training item dlc an anime soundtrack dlc and minor quest dlc that had only 15 monsters as well as shafting late adopters by making free pre order dlc paid dlc after the fact.

>>723467819
Wait... isn't that what Digimon has?

>>723467837
No, not at all.
Digimon has multiple digital editions too.

>>723467678
Cynthia, Rosa or Lillie for pokemon

>>723467749
yeah, that is indeed digimon

>>723467718
>>723467556
"le budget" is not an excuse. Bandai are among the biggest toymakers in the world. They have all the money they want to give to smaller studios.

Pokemon before Switch used to consistently be the games with the highest production value on every system they were on. Hands down. That's why you never saw anyone complaining about the graphics until the Switch games. Obviously they've aged now, but at the time the 3DS games were the absolute pinnacle of what the system was capable of.
I don't know why Gamefreak gave up when they started making games for Switch, but they weren't always like this.

>>723467942
that's why you'll never be a ceo

>>723467942
Nta but you can see the wheels under his foot. That's how he's supposed to move

>>723468023
>Pokemon before Switch used to consistently be the games with the highest production value on every system they were on. Hands down. That's why you never saw anyone complaining about the graphics until the Switch games. Obviously they've aged now, but at the time the 3DS games were the absolute pinnacle of what the system was capable of.
Completely false. All of it.

>>723451427
You play a lot in that prologue. They give you control constantly.

>>723467942
While this being an optional side quest with a random digimon and the other one being literally the legendary pokemon that appears in the main quest, is still a good comparative.

Until you realize Loaderleomon has wheels, that's it.

>>723467942
>literal robot on wheels
>moves like a robot on wheels
WOW soooo embarrassing anon...

>>723450692 (OP)
>That said, Digimon games seem to get bizarrely low reviews for how good they are
They're usually not that good, Time Stranger is by far the best one and it's still lacking in certain aspects to make it truly outstanding, but it's the first truly great Digimon game.

>>723450692 (OP)
>>723451192
>>723450941
Nintendo bonus is real because the fanboys are fucking lunatics.
Remember when Twilight Princess released and some fat fuck gave it "only" an 8.8? People got mad even though they didn't play the game.
Fanboy mentality is a childish, it's just that Nintendo got to cultivate that fanbase for the longest.


>>723451192
>Your average nintendo fan wouldn't have the attention span to make it out of the 6 hour prologue.
So tendies are right for once

>>723468048
>>723468137
You know that wheels need to, you know, turn to get a radius like that, right?

>>723468156
What do you mean, the first? The Digimon World games on PS1 were awesome.

>>723468023
holy shitposting jeet

>>723468048
>>723468148
>wheels don't even turn
>digifags will still defend this
lmao

>>723468056
>>723468239
He's right though

Sell me on this Digimon anons, I didn't like that Cyber one too much but it wasn't that bad. This Pokemon doesn't seem worth it even to pirate so I'll pass

>>723468184
you know that a robot having robotic movements doesn't look as bad as a real ass dog having no animation for turning in the most important cutscene of the entire game right?

>>723468269
No

>>723467749
This is literally at the climax of the game btw. They green lit this.

The fact that the multi billion company is comparable to Digimon already shows Pokemon lost.

>>723468251
Yeah that's totally fine such tiny details are unnecessary especially when the model looks thus good.
Pokemon doesn't even get animation. You just get white screened https://x.com/GotagaTV/status/1978906606210342965?t=3nR5sSNERX6SUOavkmxrag&s=19

>>723468294
>most important cutscene of the game
Bro it’s part of a like 20 second sequence in a post game quest

>>723468270
If you didn't like cyber sleuth you are probably not gonna like the new one either. Like maybe explain what you didn't like?

>>723450941
This, pretty much.

>>723468391
no, that's called being a hypocrite.

>>723468307
Wrong

>>723468294
The problem is that the movement isn't robotic, it's non-existent. I'd even give it more to SS since that actually had a walking animation.

>>723468391
The fact that people don't bring up this scene more often is funny as shit to me. And it's mostly because most people already saw it months ago and had chuckle about it.

>>723468270
This is the Digimon game you really wanna start with.

>>723468197
Awesome, but not truly great and you know it.

>>723468270
Cyber Sluths was bad, like bad as fuck. This one is good. Take that as you will.

>>723468394
it's the literal climax of the story. This is not postgame, it's the scene after beating eternatus. Which, gaain, it's the climax of the main story.

>>723468270
I also didn't liked Cyber Sleuth.
The differences is that instead of random fights where every three steps you get a random encounter, now the enemies are around the map, you can choose to attack them and they will star the fight losing a little fight, or you can dodge them and ignore the fights, also if you are strong enough, when you attack them on the map, they automatically die and you skip the fight and get the EXP and items.
Way, waaaaay better than Cyber Sleuth.

>>723468347
>>723468394
So people who haven't played the game are just making shit up apparently?

>>723467942
is there a problem?

>>723468439
>no, that's called being a hypocrite.
You're trying too hard. The difference between za and time stranger is immense it's not even funny and nitpicking foot movement when your game has jpg buildings , no voice acting, plastic models, black people and graphics worse than Deus ex

>>723468494
Maybe I’m remembering wrong but I’m pretty sure the scene is from the post game quest where the Bogdanoff brothers make one of the wolves go feral

>>723467740
Depends on the game, but the later entries have a lot of in depth monster breeding autism and team building, which a lot of people like. Weird that that anon is saying 3 is good though when that's the entry that dumbed things down drastically and fucked up so bad that most of the best monsters you can be using are acquired an hour in. If I were going to recommend any of them, any of the translated Joker games or the remakes of 1 and 2 on the 3DS are probably the best place to start. Whatever looks the most interesting to you.

>>723452984
Bandai treats Digimon like a redheaded budget series so Time Stranger being as good as it is is a fucking huge treat.

Can we see palword's superior animations?

>>723468446
Nope

>>723468595
You really thought you'd just slide that in there and get away with it huh /pol/tard?

>>723468541
My bad i just realized it is the post game because of the two ridiculous characters with the sword and shield hair in the background. Not my fault the scenes both look alike.

>>723468270
it's like cyber sleuth but they removed all the bad bits.

>>723468595
now compare the gameplay

>>723468494
Imagine lying about pokemon
It's the post game encounter with the shield and sword guys
https://youtu.be/PYXaq1yiwJU?si=YZNybgZVJJRVvPiD

>>723468663
Palworld isn't comparable to Pokemon or Digimon it's open world survival slop for valvetrannies

>>723468663
no one here likes palworld. shoo.

>>723468635
please tell me there are some good entries on steam. I don't really enjoy 3ds emulation.

>>723468595
>Black people
Kek
>>723468694
Deus ex plays better

>>723468836
now you're not even trying. pathetic.

>>723468663
If there's one thing digimon and pokemon fans agree that would be palworld is just way worse

>>723468404
I think what made me not like it was that you had to spend a lot of time changing areas, and for that you had to go on a menu. Also having to go to that lab every single time I wanted to evolve a Digimon was annoying.
The combat was alright and the story I can't say it was good but it wasn't bad either I guess.
>>723468540
>>723468675
This seems nice
>>723468483
>>723468491
I'll at least give the demo a try. Thanks anons!

>>723468918
Remember in Cyber Sleuth how most of the game you spent in in that boring blue dungeon made of cubes?
Not the case with Time Stranger, there are some very gorgeous dungeons and places to visit in this game, it is really, really pretty.

>>723468978
>Not the case with Time Stranger, there are some very gorgeous dungeons and places to visit in this game, it is really, really pretty.
The problem is that the dungeon design is just as boring.

>>723469005
not really.

>>723468978
Yeah that sucked. It's one of the reasons why I didn't like Soul Hackers 2.

>>723469005
HUGE disagree here, I was so done of kowloon and having to go over and over there in every quest and side quest and taking elevators and fighting idiot hackers...
Any dungeon on Time Stranger is so much better.

>>723468821
Your only option is The Dark Prince aka DQM3. Joker and Joker 2 are DS, but I don't know if they emulate good. You could probably play the one on Steam for your first honestly if you're curious, it's only really bad if you're someone coming from the previous games or try to engage with the pvp.

>>723469005
It could have been better with more puzzles but it's on par with the ones in p5r I'd say except madarame's palace

>>723469147
Not really showing it with that map there

>>723468725
Yes. It's not comparable to Pokémon because ZA is only one city. And looks worse than anything in Palworld.

Anyone wants to jeetpost with me? That was the most fun I had ITT

>>723469208
DQM3 is so mid, like I didn’t hate it and I collected most of the monsters but it seemed like there were pretty obvious “correct” monsters to use as your base model for a particular skillset. And it runs like shit and looks bad in battles even compared to Pokemon.

>>723450692 (OP)
ZA doesn't try to sell you grinding dlc and gives you more cosmetics than t shirts, so I consider it the better game off that alone.
t. tried to finish Time Stranger before ZA released, but got burnt out by the sidequest spam at the very end of the game

>>723469005
Nope. CS is just garbo.

>>723465592
>Satan is samefagging

>>723469471
>burnt out by the sidequest spam at the very end
yeah I also hate when a game has too much optional content, when I buy a game I want it to have as less content as posible.

>>723469456
does the pc port of dqm3 run like shit too?

>>723467227
not a single good game in this picture, amazing

>>723469456
My main problem is that it's got that Persona 5 problem where the best guys you can be using are obtained really early on with only a few exceptions. Going down a long convoluted breeding chain to create literal Satan feels pretty bad when some asshole rabbit with a horn is better in every way.

>>723469685
Not what I'm saying at all. I thought the sidequests were well paced all throughout the game then I get to the ending arc and get 30 of them dropped on me at once. I'm right outside the final boss and it killed my motivation to finish it. Might go back after ZA, might not.

>>723451596
>more polished, higher budget
over half of the SMTV roster is recycled assets from P5, SH2 and the Noctune remaster

>>723469905
you can just ignore them and do them when you feel like it anon. Nothing is forcing you, it's literally extra content.

>>723469878
I don’t remember that being the case I remember most people using a giant high tier spellcaster and then metal king slimes as well as that faerie dragon stun spam thing before they nerfed that shit

>>723450692 (OP)
>I'm not sure why
Because Digimon clearly put a lot of effort and love into Time Stranger, while Pokemon is consistently phoning it in and still succeeding.
It's very annoying.

>>723469348
And Palworld is boring while Z-A is fun.

>>723451192
I remember a magazine I used to read once got lots of hate mail from fans for scoring Smash Bros Brawl 93 which they considered too low. Tendies have always been like this and always will

>>723469983
I don't want to ignore them.

>>723469905
>right at the final boss
>REEEEE 30 sidequests notifications
>AaaiieeeeEEE!!! i cant proceed , i cant finish the gaaaaaame
absolute mental retardation. Finish your fucking game and maaaybe return to do the sidequests if you still want more, you lil fuck.

>>723470145
STUN BEAT BLOW

>>723468725
>>723468772
>>723468901
least obvious pokedrone falseflagger

>>723470214
No.

Pokemon X had real balconies.

>>723470212
>>723470271
Yep. Unironic mental illness. Take your meds
>inb4 "no"
You dont have to say it, keep up the retardation.

>>723470284
So did Z-A until they cut it out

>>723470115
Ok, that's cute

>>723470334
>Get in the flow of side content the game drops
>Game disrupts this flow right at the end of the game
>Uhhh just ignore it
No.

>>723465031
>this angelwoman
>not knowing her name
Get a load of this tourist shithead.

>>723470396
BE APPALLED BY THE ABSURDITY OF REASONS

>>723470369
>until they cut it out
then they doesn't have them

>>723450692 (OP)
You're right, Time Stranger is better than ZA

>>723450692 (OP)
>>723457834
>>723464279
There is no such thing as a "true" Digimon fan, it's just hipsters being hipsters, contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism. It has by the far the fakest fanbase ever and proof of that is every Digimon game and anime failing horribly. No one cares or supports anything Digimon. Everytime someone (pretends) to """"""""""""like"""""""""" Digimon, it is purely reactionary to Pokemon. Digimon has no merits by itself, it's just the hipster alternative to Pokemon.

>>723465592
the only good post in this thread

>>723470115
It would take 40 years for Pokémon to achieve these graphics.

>>723450692 (OP)
>This just in!
>man with gun loses to the sun overheating the entire planet and everyone died

>>723471670
And animation quality for that matter

>>723469256
Map layouts aren't as easy to demonstrate, but every single dungeon in TS is visually better and plays better than everything in Cyber Slut- even the sewers.

>>723469985
A lot of the monsters that were worth anything on ladder were the guys that didn't take a lot of effort to make. I think the only ones I saw used that required autistically managing a monster's family tree to get were Estark as an answer to the shitty rabbit team and Corvus. Learned the Steam version removed the pvp though, so I guess none of my complaints about that matter, but that does suck because that was the only thing to do in post game.

>>723472324
and they're still dogshit hallways. this trend of /v/ creaming itself over poorly designed dungeons in this and e33 while shitting on elden ring and smt v for asking you to navigate an open space is concerning.

>>723472513
you do understand that saying "a is better than b" is in no way implying that you are "creaming yourself" over a, right?

>>723472513
You're a dogshit hallway.

>>723472610
no, you contrarians are actually asking for the terrible era of early ps3/360 ff13 hallways with distracting visuals to return and I'm tired of you pretending otherwise.

>>723450941
Yup. Gaming journos are pretty much just tendies.

>>723459419
>Thing is that bias wouldve been well founded (video game wise) like a decade and some change ago
Honestly? No, not even back then. Re:Digitize Decode was better than any of the turds GF was clenching out on the 3DS.
Even the best mainline Pokemon games have only ever been sub-mediocre and primitive by the standards of real JRPGs. The spinoffs were always better, so of course, their shiteating fans didn't buy them.

>>723468197
Digimon World 1 was fun, had a good concept, but horribly flawed. Digion World 2 was slow as shit and a massive grindfest in the worst way possible. Digimon World 3 was the only great Digimon game. Sure it had flaws like backtracking and lack of direction, but it was an overall decent game. It kept things simple gameplay wise.

>>723472798
Don't be such a drama queen. If you can articulate exactly what you want, I'll take you seriously.

>>723472798
I know you are a schizo, but please anon READ what the others are posting instead of just imagining what they are saying to get angry at something. No one has said anything even remotely similar to what you just said.

>>723471012
I liked Adventure, Tamers, Xros Wars and World/Re:Digitize. Eat shit.

>>723473294
World 1 was a much better game than World 3

>>723473294
stop ignoring the elephant of peak in the room

>>723468023
>Pokemon before Switch used to consistently be the games with the highest production value on every system they were on. Hands down.
You never owned a Nintendo handheld before the Switch.

>>723472491
You definitely know more about it than me, I just took my maxed out Frog monster into pvp, lost and kind of went
>Ok I'm not gonna learn this it takes too long to make maxed monsters

>>723450692 (OP)
Time Stranger outsold ZA though and I havent checked but I bet it has a higher metacritic score

>>723473468
Peak torture, I agree.
Couldn't think of a worse Diablo clone if I tried.

>>723468023
Pokemon was only hi-spec on GBC, and only in terms of raw content. Shiren and Zelda whipped its ass graphically.

In ZA you don't actually rank one by one you skip half the alphabet
https://x.com/OSAKA_POKEMON/status/1978807297095946250?t=ANzcJXPRhN71htYd-ImFng&s=19

>>723473468
The Dark Souls of digimanz....

>>723473832
GF is unbelievably pathetic.

>>723472798
I'd take pretty hallways over SMTV's bland empty deserts tbqh

>>723473464
Agree to disagree. DW1 was only fun in the beginning. After that, you need a full on guide to enjoy the later parts of the game.

>>723473898
But Digimon isn't trash

>Digimon and Pokemon
lmao I havent touched that shit since I was 10, how much of a bunch of manchildren can you people be?
Have some self-respect lay games for your age instead of toddlerslop.

heh, enjoy your 100$ game

>>723474021
Monster catching games are the bottom of the barrel of videogames, all of them are low effort slop with negative production values

>>723474206
This, but rollslop

>>723474328
Those have effort put into them, meanwhile monster catching games is
>which PS3 looking piece of turbo casual slop do you want to breeze through

>>723474397
>Those have effort put into them
Kek good joke

>>723467556
Bandai Namco is bigger than Gamefreak

>>723466081
>>$70+$30 dlc
Digimon also has 30 dollar DLC though?

STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT POKEMON STOP IT RIGHT NOW STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

>>723474556
Looks great and fun, unlike Pokemon and Digimom

>>723474661
That's not an excuse. Gamefreak's portfolio consists only of pokemon, and they aren't even good at it.

>>723453337
That's good design. That way you don't need to balance items vs abilities.

>>723450692 (OP)
Digimon isn't mainstream anymore, the games seem to always be trapped in Japan hell for quite a long time, they dont advertise these games very well either (cant even think of a time I saw a commercial for a Digimon game.) and pokeniggers more than likely go out of their way to give low ratings.

>>723450692 (OP)
>That said, Digimon games seem to get bizarrely low reviews for how good they are. Like everyone I've heard who actually plays them has nothing bad to say about them,

An actual Digimon fan recognises just how flawed the games are, they're often enjoyed despite their flaws. If someone has nothing bad to say about them then they're either retarded or they're a poser.

>>723474756
Digimon has $107 of DLC

>>723462301
is that a mod?

>>723473832
>Total number of ranks you hit if you ignore starting rank and skipped ranks is 10.
>First rank up is part of tutorial.
So 8 milestones + a final one. Where have I seen this before?

>>723473610
I mean cmon. You dont need to post such retardation just to bump the thread.

>>723473832
>>723477224
>Start at Z (actually Y)
>X, W, U, F
>E, D, C, B
>A

Let's get this War started

>>723450692 (OP)
Digimon is a game that only hardcore fans enjoy but to everyone else without the nostalgia goggles it's obvious that it's just not very good.

Pokemon is the same, people who are hardcore fans wil enjoy the new games but for everyone else they are not very good.

Reviewers also reflect this with the difference that pokemon when it comes down to core gameplay elements is more polished than digimon. Graphics alone can only take you so far unless you go really hard on graphics like TLOU.

>>723477416
without the Nintendo bonus ZA is like a 59

>>723477416
Uh oh....

>>723477492
>Pokemon is the same, people who are hardcore fans wil enjoy the new games but for everyone else they are not very good.

No Pokemon is different. Pokemon is "most people enjoy them, hardcore fans get upset because they have their own ideas of what it could be if Gamefreak wasn't designing for casuals"

>>723477416
Holy

>>723477492
>pokemon when it comes down to core gameplay elements is more polished than digimon
This isn't true, by the way.

>>723477416
Without the NDS negative bonus the real score for pokemon is 99

>>723477416
>Digimon Time Stranger
>9.3/10

Utter delusion lol, it's the kind of score a game gets when nobody but utter fanboys decide to rate it.

>>723477416
Based DigiChads

>>723477416
the userscore for ZA is going to be so bad lmao

>>723477618
>This isn't true, by the way.
Show all the competitive Digimon games... lmao

>>723477416
Wasn't Pokefags celebrating how ZA had a better score than Time Strangerjust yesterday??? kek those paid reviews ran out faster than expected

>>723477618
Ah, no- that's inaccurate of me. Pokemon is indeed very polished.

>>723477416
Pokebros......................................................

>>723477801
All compfags should drop dead on the spot.

>>723477416
Oh please let Digimon pass it, I want there to be pure mayhem

>>723477939
Comp Pokemon is fun

>>723477416
We should all pitch in and get Digimon Time Stranger's userscore down

>>723473341
see >>723474003

>>723477416
>toddlerslop
>only 300 reviews
>higher user score than BG3, RDR2 snd Elden Ring
My my, how embarrassing, thesecpeople are spending more time on Metacritic than playing.
No wonder since JRPGs are the bottom of the barrel of videogames.

>>723477801
Competitive Pokemon hasn't been good since Gen 5, power creep has ruined everything.

>>723472513
This board is home to turbo casuals who get filtered by Elden Ring and Doom Eternal, dude

>>723472513
Elden Ring open world is shit

>>723472513
Elden Ring's open world is the worst aspect of the entire game.

>>723478605
And Digimon has never been good period

>>723478725
>>723478792
>meanwhile, monster catcher open worlds: literally nothing except designated monster spawns
Fucking Ubisoft makes better open worlds than Pokemon and Digimon

>>723479046
Explain why, fuckface.

>>723477735
It's just bots and youtubers influencing the score. I've always thought that Metacritic should have 3 different ratings.
Graphic/performance, Story/Music, and Gameplay.

>>723479283
Because there's THINGS TO DO, things to find, they do something with the open world, Pokemon and Digimon don't.

>>723478556
User score just means some youtubers got paid to shill a game to their audience.

>>723478903
The public reception for Time Stranger seems to disagree, but you can continue to live in your own reality anon so long as you don't hurt anyone.

>>723479406
>Because there's THINGS TO DO, things to find
THEY'RE ALL SHIT

>>723479595
At least there's something, what the hell is there in Pokemon or Digimon? Randomly spawning monsters?

>>723479679
These are franchises about the monsters!

>>723479754
Nice excuse

>>723479830
NTA but you're fucking retarded

>>723479046
>Elden Ring open world: literally nothing
Wow
More than one game can be shit you know

>>723480150
Except Elden Ring was good and had effort put into it,
Digimon and Pokemon are factory chain-made slop with a budget of 5 bucks.

>>723480240
Elden Ring is a good game. Elden Ring's open world is bad.
These statements are not mutually exclusive.

>>723477416
Im going to down vote tge shit out of Pokemon ZA lol

>>723480415
The