Thread 723457112

Is Pokemon lame?

>>723457112 (OP)
Yes.

Always has been

>>723457112 (OP)
Right looks like pic related

>>723457112 (OP)
Is that real?

>>723457112 (OP)
Monster catchers are lame in general.
Monster Hunter mogs them in both creature and gameplay design.

>>723457112 (OP)
No, it's cool
>>723457154
>>723457171
Filtered

>>723457510
There is not that many monsters in MH, there are like 1k+ pokemons man

>>723457112 (OP)
Only Pokemon I like is Rayquaza

>>723457603
Now that I think of it, Diglett is cool too

>>723457112 (OP)
Is the pokemon supposed to be a kanji? Like 大火?

>>723457112 (OP)
Pokemon only got lamer since gen 1, and you only got older. So yeah by now it's extremely fucking lame.

Someone please explain to me why people are shitting on the new Pokemon game. It's the same modern thing that Gamefreak produces, so why is everyone against it now?

>>723458082
Attempt to TORtanic SV failed so they are trying harder.

>>723457112 (OP)
New (*past 20 years) pokemon designs make sense when you realise they're made to look that way so they're easy to turn into merchandise, specifically plushies. Can't have too many surface details or it adds manufacturing costs.

>>723457112 (OP)
nah, digimon was simply always cooler

>>723457112 (OP)
Yes, but Digimon from the same time frame as right are not much better. Japan is just a dead nation, all that's left are fading echoes of a better culture.

>>723458082
>It's the same modern thing that Gamefreak produces
Why would people stop shitting on it this time?

Can't believe the Pokemon vs Digimon debate is back after 25 years and Digimon is winning.

>>723457112 (OP)
If Pokemon was lame why is it way more popular? Why is Digimons recent claim to fame "haha lol we are pokemon but better" yet pokemon still the preferred franchise?

>>723457112 (OP)
OP is a bot. That Asmongold chud pays server farms to shill against stuff he doesn't like.

yes

>>723461225
I don't think Asmongold cares about Pokemon at all. Or Digimon for that matter.

>>723457112 (OP)
pokemon is

>>723458082
Social pressure. Considering haters are sending literal death threats, they managed to get whole discords to spam that shit everywhere.

>>723461376
>should i criticize the product so the company end up making better products?
>no, i'll defend my right to eat shit!
Why are you like this? You should be thanking haters

>>723458082
people are tried of the low quality. they are a billion dollar franchise and fans expect more.

reminds me of mega Manectic, they just hate quadrupeds.

>>723457112 (OP)
After gen 3, soulless I'd say.

>>723457112 (OP)
There was a time where their simplistic designs were all you need in a monster collecting game, but now they have crossed that thin line between simplicity and mediocrity.
Just look at OP picture.

>>723461475
see? you are terrifyed to not be on the attacker side. You know they will crucify you if you don't obey and follow.

>>723461674
>After

>>723457362
It's been 20 years since I've seen that

It's for children

>>723461225
Asmongold doesn't truly care about either game and said Digimon looked lame upon being forced to gaze at it in showcases

>>723457112 (OP)
It's insane how nearly everh single one of the new mega evolutions are designed to look funny so they can go viral as le funny maymays. I'd take their usual plushy-centered design philosophy over this shit.

>>723457112 (OP)
well here is pokemon z-a (2025):

>>723463074
and here is deus ex (2000).

what the fuck happened? 25 years, 1/4 of a century, and they have regressed.

>>723457171
SPBP

>>723458267
>Kitto toberu sa ON MY LOVE

You bet Digimon wins.

>>723458082
They're low quality games. Even in the leaked powerpoints from game freak they call out their own games for being low quality and point out that the market is shifting to demand higher quality in premium games.

>>723463107
damn, I never even thought to make that comparison. That's crazy. Deus Ex didn't even have good graphics at the time it came out either.

>>723458267
>Winning
Spamming 4chan with the same 10 threads is winning? Their games are a flop, they have no cultural impact and they aren't gaining new fans.
>But the game graphics and a few cherry picked designs-
Digimon games have always had better graphics than Pokemon, and if Digishills could give honest reviews of the best digimon to the best pokemon they would understand why the world chose Pokemon over Digimon. Lame women in armour who look worse than any modern Gacha do not win over actual animals for designs in a creature collector.

>>723457663
It’s both, 大 is the lower mane.

>>723457112 (OP)
Yeah

>>723457112 (OP)
Yes, but people ITT will say no, or say something else is worse to deflect criticism.

>>723457112 (OP)
I'll never forgive them for what did to the gen 4 remakes.

>>723464448
>Bandai
>You are my most valuable Slut
I bet he says that to these two as well.

>>723458160
>New (*past 20 years) pokemon designs make sense when you realise they're made to look that way so they're easy to turn into merchandise, specifically plushies. Can't have too many surface details or it adds manufacturing costs.
This
It all makes sense because toys and plushies are the biggest revenue source for Pokemon so the character designers are limited in their process. This isn't a problem for digimon or SMT though

>>723463107
This is really fucking disingenuous for a lot of reasons.
Pokemon looks like shit, but sparse areas of Deus Ex (which is what this Pokemon screenshot is) look more like this.

>>723468374
The worst areas of ZA should look better than the best areas of deus ex. It was made 25 years later.

>>723468508
I don't disagree. I'm just saying there's a lot of dishonest comparison going on there. ZA's biggest issue is it's using modern area design with zero lighting effects. Anything that big and open with no lighting, baked in or otherwise, is gonna look pretty ass.

>>723458082
you were just ahead of the curve anon

This thread was made by Eric. He's a snoy and massive OoT fanboy that's been spamming /v/ with anti-Nintendo pedaling for a good decade, he's a weekly villain in Famitsu threads and he reports them over and over for calling him out or for spreading facts he thinks needs to be hidden from /v/ (namely sales of Nintendo hardware and software compared to PlayStation and Steam Deck).

If you see posts saying Palworld or Digimon is better than Pokémon, it's Eric. If you see posts saying GameCube games are better than Switch games, it's Eric. If you see the same anti-Nintendo threads popping up over and over, it's Eric. If you see the same posts shilling piracy and emulators, it's Eric. If you see someone denying the existence of Eric and calling him a made-up boogeyman, it's Eric. If you see someone unironically using terms like "tendies" or "Switchfags" and making hyperbolic statements, it's Eric. If you see a red OP image with a Nintendo-related thing, asking some dumb open question, it's Eric. If you see the same repeated lines over and over again, it's Eric samefagging. If you see a massive wall of replies to one post, it's Eric samefagging himself, they'll all be a minute apart. He's always resetting his router and ban evading, and flooding the catalog, and he's got at least a few gigabytes of CP to end any thread that isn't going his way.

He's also a massive GameCube fanboy that was so buckbroken by BotW's commercial and critical success that he's determined to make it the most despised game in history, he wants to change the narrative and erase the perceived damage against him.

>>723468913
kill yourself schizonigger, Eric does not exist.

>>723457112 (OP)
Both fucking suck, SMT is better
Digimon can try again in the 10 years it takes them to make 1 game and Pokemon will have made 6 in that time that have barely changed at all

>>723469134
You first, Eric.

>>723469153
SMT peaked with 4 sadly

>>723457112 (OP)
Did they really have to kill Super Shadow to give that shitmon a mega?

>>723469330
>SMT peaked with the worst numbered game.
What did he mean by this?

>>723462361
yea nintendo sued em after XY came out so they're not allowed to sell it anymore

>>723457112 (OP)
they don't know how to design cool pokemon anymore.
in fact i'm starting to believe they are simply not allowed to do so even if they could.

>>723465127
>Says the pokenigger before he ties the rope.

>>723458082
The quality manages to get even lower somehow

>>723457112 (OP)
I know the top part is supposed to look like 火 but I can't unsee it as one of those octopus shaped sausages from anime bentos

>>723458082
Against it now? Every cycle of pokemon releases goes like this:
>new pokemon game is out
>people realize it looks like shit despite infinite budget
>rightfully complain about it
>play it anyway because they love pokemon
>invest 10000 hours in it
>stop caring it looks like shit
>stop playing it
>forgot it looked like shit
Rinse and repeat. Pokemonfags are in an endless loop of suken cost.

>>723471242
The leaka showed that mainline Pokemon game budgets are like $10-15 million. So despite having infinite money, they don't even use it on the games

>>723457112 (OP)
everything looks like plastic in the 3D pokemon games.

>>723458267
No one talks about Digimon if its not in the context of Pokemon,

>>723457648
Diggledig diggledig

>>723457663
Looks more like its meant to be 炎

>>723457112 (OP)
pokemon having the nip fire on them is so eye rolling to the point its like come on

>>723458082
posting a pepe and asking a dishonest question you know the answer to should be bannable

>>723463107
only thing that looks good is the signs lol

>>723458082
>so why is everyone against it now?
people started shittng on the series as early on gen 3
the real suddenly is how suddenly multiple posters acts like this latest game is the first time people shit on pokemon for being lazy garbage
it borders on suspicious social engineering type shit

>>723458082
Amerimutt millennials are manchildren obsessed with dumbass kid media like Pokemon, Dragon Ball or capeshit.
They don't want to accept these games are low effort slop so parents can distract their kids.

These people will unironically insist there's potential in Pokemon despite the fact that kid media is always a business with zero artistic vision.
The only time this wasn't true was with The Hobbit.

>>723472762
>Dragon Ball
as a kid that grew up with DB the only good thing thats been since like the end of Z was the borly moive

>>723457112 (OP)
It has been lame since gen 4, arguably earlier.

>>723472852
Dragon Ball is trash. pure brainrot for stupid kids, just like Pokemon, just like superheroes, just like Star Wars and just like Transformers.

>>723457112 (OP)
Both of those pokemon look like shit

>>723471972
The numerous recent Time Stranger threads say otherwise

>>723457542
Tendie fag

>>723473159
Where

>>723471242
For me, personally, it's that Gen 6 was god awful outside of competitive, Gen 7 was almost great but made a couple REALLY retarded decisions, Gen 8 was a shitshow, Arceus is a good game that looks horrible, Gen 9 ran horrendously but was solid, and ZA looks like they finally figured out how to make a proper 3D Pokemon game but only made 1/6th of the content.

I haven't bought any of them new since the DS and emulated most of them.

>>723458082
They make billions off the series yet spend few millions on actually making the games. They're basically doing the minimum effort, and it shows. People are tired of it. They're tired of them half assing it because they think everyone will still buy it. That's straight up shitting on your customers. There is a point where you say enough and demand more. Especially for the fucking prices they're asking for it

>>723472054
TRIO TRIO TRIO

>>723474097
If they gave GF enough staff, money and time to have two teams that got 4 years each per game, things would be a lot better.

>>723457112 (OP)
Saberleomon is so fucking cool

>>723472054
>>723474148
>destroys the entire landscape and landslides your towns and kills everyone in you're path

>>723470250
They literally aren't. Sugimori has some stupid ground rule that "if a Pokemon is too cool, it won't capture the player's heart." Near as I can tell, he did no market research to support this nonsense before he said it, but it's clearly still the guiding design principle at GF anyway. And, more importantly, it's a handy excuse for them to mail it in or resort to forced memes/jokes/references (the visual equivalent of Marvel quips) because putting actual effort in would make the final result "too cool."

>>723474097
>because they think everyone will still buy it
Are they wrong?

>>723474047
>Arceus is a good game
Not even. It's a $60 tech demo with barely a fraction of the normal shitty games' content and features, with nothing to show for it besides the stupid Pokemon Go catching gimmick that loses its novelty after five minutes and a bunch of autistic to-do lists to fill out in its empty grass fields.
I'm tired of people acting like PLA wasn't insultingly bad just because it was slightly different than other mainline games. PLAfags are arguably even worse enablers than the totally uncritical shiteaters like Joe because you guys pretend to be critical and have standards, but one or two gimmicks are all it takes for GF to reel you back in like suckers.

>>723475841
Jesus Christ nigga you will never be satisfied

>>723457112 (OP)
the height of the pokemons represents the new 40% extra on the price tag

>>723475881
I would be satisfied with an actually good JRPG that lives up to the standards of the genre. Not the freakshow shovelware they've been putting out. That's all I've ever asked for from Pokemon and it's apparently an impossible task after 30 years, especially with how retarded this fanbase is.

>>723475358
it's not that. the devs are furry freaks with no taste. the internal docs leaked that beastial sex with mamoswine, rapidash, vigoroth, typhlosion, octillery and more is canon. the freaks at game freak made it canon that humans have sex with pokemon and make babies with them.

>>723457112 (OP)
Pokemon is for younger audiences and women.
Digimon is for men.

>>723457112 (OP)
Are there more images like this, comparing a Digimon with a similar Pokemon? They are fun, sometimes one is better, sometimes the other is better, in this case Digimon is better.

here's something you might notice

Pokemon threads can reach the bump limit without anyone mentioning Digimon
Digimon threads can't even make 10 posts without someone mentioning Pokemon

>>723476552
Digimon has a surprising number of women fans as well. The literal Guiness World Record holder for largest collection of Digimon memorabilia is a Chinese woman.

>>723457112 (OP)
Holy shit Digimon mogged the hell out of Pokeshit

>>723465127
>he doesn't like hot women in armor
Getting gay vibes from pokefags here

>>723457510
Doesn't even post an actual image from Monster Hunter to support her claims.

>>723458267
Because when you show me a digimon, and tell me it's a digimon, I can easily accept that.

But with pokemon, every fucking time, I get shown some doofy looking thing designed for preschoolers and just when you think it can't get worse it does.

Pokemon was cool when it was a sci-fantasy about being a latchkey kid. I don't think the current designers have ever even riden a bike before in their life.

>>723462456
Children deserve nice things.

>>723462456
Its like pegi 13 so it's extremely not for children. Also not a reason.

>>723458267
We don't need to fight or win. Pokemon sucks on its own

>>723472535
Ironically enough, I remember gen 3 was when I started to hear a lot of people complain that "pokemon design now look like digimon".

>>723457112 (OP)
Digimon is back baby and better than Z/Lame.

>>723457112 (OP)
Modern pokemon is for soccer moms and girls. Yes, it is lame.

>>723475841
I emulated it and had a great time, and like I said, Gens 6-8 sucked. Game is fucking ugly as hell, but it's a good RPG. Definitely liked it more than Scarlet and Violet.

>>723457112 (OP)
The left creature could hurt someone

>>723477476
>Digimon is back
>zero discussion on it's own, just in the context of Pokemon
Well in a way, you are right

>>723477816
There has been discussion of Digimon for two weeks where have you been

>>723457112 (OP)
Students of Japanese: can you tell me, is the pokemon's hair a Japanese letter?

It's since gold i lost every interest for pokemon except for nutting purposes.

>>723471961
Only mainline because gf is grossly incompetent.

Just look at pokken other spin offs.

>>723477020
>she
No, I'm a man, unlike the sissy manchildren who play these "hecking wholesomeness" simulators that monster catchers are

When is put next to X/Y you can really shee the upgrade.

>>723478108
Yeah, they are all crap and make the mainline good in comparison, specially Rangers and Mystery Dungeon,

>>723457112 (OP)
With very few exceptions, it feels like Pokemon ran out of ideas for designs in gen 3.

>>723478274
Pffftahahahhahaha

>>723462456
>kids can't have good stuff

This kind of mentality create shitty adults.

>>723478746
If your personal development is affected by what slop your parents distract you with you might be retarded

>>723457112 (OP)
>Pokemon Legends Z-A
>Took you 8 hours to finish
>Digimon Story Time Stranger
>Took you 60 hours to finish
>Both costs the same
You know what to do with your money

>>723478856
>Digimon Story Time Stranger
Denuvo

>Pokemon Legends Z-A
No Denuvo

>>723478856
Yeah, I should stick to MGSV

>>723462730
>Roach-infested sewer dweller in charge of having taste

>>723458082
Because they somehow keep getting worse despite making more money than ever.

What's more baffling is faggots still defending Pokemon

>>723478926
>Time Stranger
on pc, easy mods, probably already links to pirate it and play it for free
>Legends Z-A
have fun buying a shitty console just to make it run decently, have fun expending a lot of money on an inferior product

>>723458160
>>723467372
I also would add it's designed for viral and meme moment.
Thats only reason why Mega Starmie is greenlighted

Digimon won.
Palworld won.

>>723479220
Palworld + Digimon = Palmon

She won.

>>723461487
>fans expect a company that prints money to change
Fans are retarded then

>>723479220
I just can't play these or Pokemon.
You play RDR2, or Arkham Knight and it's just embarrasding going back to these clunky, underbaked games with PS3 graphics.

>>723478815
Exposure to media is accepted as critical to development. You were obviously raised on adult media which is why your such a sour puss posting on 4chan. Give your kids nintendo games, let them watch Disney, get them interested in sports and they'll grow up to be successful and happy adults who never ever ever ever ever post on 4chan.

>>723479462
God no, if I have kids I'll do my best to prevent them from ending up as numales.

>>723457112 (OP)
Yeah

>>723458082
Too much slop for too much time.
Slop fatigue

>>723479462
>Exposure to media is accepted as critical to development
Lmao source?

>>723478941
steam is the worse thing to happen to gaming

>>723479670
>not xbox live
>not subscription service games
>not the entirety of the 8th gen
>not horse armor
you wish.

I feel like Nintendo might regret this game in the long run. People seem pretty down on it. More so than previous games. The only positivity I've seen is that one NPC has an ass.
>The game exceeded expectations.
That can actually be a bad thing in the long run. FFXV killed Final Fantasy because more people than ever got a chance to see that Square Enix has no clue what it's doing.
>Women love it.
Women are heavily influenced by what's popular and culturally relevant.
>Hey babe, the new Pokemon is coming out!
>Eh, Pokemon is kinda low effort these days. I might pass.
>(So it's not cool anymore?)
Women won't be far behind the men in taking off.

>>723480026
People are also praising BF6 and shitting on BO7, and yet everyone knows BO7 will sell more.

>>723457112 (OP)
Digimon is cringe

>>723480026
As long as the merch keeps selling TPC will not care and Nintendo can't do anything about it until they do.

Merch will never stop selling though, the TCG alone could carry the property.

>>723457112 (OP)
For a while now

I'm convinced that the weird fanaticism against ZA is forced and done by people who haven't played the game. It's actually pretty alright, and after the last few pokemon games that's very refreshing. I had kind of lost hope that pokemon would ever be fun again. ZA is actually fun, unless it suddenly becomes really shit after Rank D, but I doubt it.

>>723481396
If the videogames stop being popular, it's just a matter of time until people stop caring about the merch.

>>723478274
soulless vs even more soulless

>>723482159
Saars the new game is good saars pay $70 and $30 rupees for it you bloody bitch bastard

>>723458267
Now imagine if Iwata supported digimon instead of Pokemon another thing it would be

>>723482247
I mean, I'm sure that for 15-30 years after the games stop being relevant, there will still be some 40 year olds who bring the Pikachu doll home, but it won't be the ubiquitous four quadrant global superpower that it is right now.

>>723458082
>so why is everyone against it now?
>now

>puts out dogshit
>wins anyways

>>723457112 (OP)
>>723458267
>>723483229
Digimon is a different beast from Pokemon. Honestly, the biggest thing holding the Digimon games back is that they won't fully embrace this and get away from the idea that anyone wants to catch 'em all here.

There should be a handful of playable Digimon with distinct personalities, limited evolutions (training -> rookie -> champion -> ultimate -> mega + a special evolution + fusions), and memorable move sets with lots of voice lines. The rest should be unplayable NPCs.

>>723482968
Pirate it then, moron.

>>723457112 (OP)
Here's a comparison between both
https://x.com/Icewallowcumin/status/1979109942771536266

>>723479764
>>not horse armor
damn but my csgo loot box knife skin is so much better

>>723472762
>retarded opinion
into the trash it goes

>>723457112 (OP)
Yes because TPC literally won't allocate more budget to the development and is banking on people sucking up the slop like little piggies. Seriously I have pay for the game pay for online to then play ranked to get mega stones for the kalos starters

>>723484226
Shut the FUCK up anime-only scum, go watch Kizuna

>>723486780
No fuck that

>>723482159
I think its the tiredness of seeing it being a downgrade or same as the past games. People liked Arceus, but this game looks like a step down (at least that is the impression I've got).
It also has a lot to do with Nintendo suing Palworld and the patent trolling they are doing, which is upsetting to see. And then people see the pennies of a budget they gave one of their highest franchises, it really makes you question where that profit is going to because it certainley isnt towards the games.

>>723457112 (OP)
Yes, next question.

>za doesnt even have roller skates
jesus

>>723483535
not really a good thing
shitty corp wins again
idk why nintendo gets a pass when shit like ea doesnt

>>723481396
Nintendo can't do anything regardless. They don't own the entire franchise themselves and there's not enough money in the world to buy GF out of their share.
The most Nintendo could do is stop demanding constant mainline games every year or two from GF, and also stop using lawfare and patent trolling to shut down any competition they can. So, in other words, the exact opposite of what they've been doing - which should disabuse you of the notion that Nintendo is secretly on the disgruntled hardcore fans' side here.

>>723478746
>thanostocking

>>723457663
炎

It's two of the kanji for fire. Basically means a big fire, or wildfire.

>>723489406
Only internet retards care about palworld bs. Most people don't give a shit.

>>723492159
>nintendo gets a pass
bro even nintendo are sick of GF pumping out sharts
in the newest wave of doc leaks nintendo wanted a pay a third party dev to come out in help out with the helps and gamefreak refused

>>723457112 (OP)
digifags are too horny

in 10 years people will be like
>you know A to Z wasnt that bad actually

>>723484226
Play adventure PSP retard.

>>723491690
Wait WHAT!!!!

>>723494815
Sun/Moon are coming up on 10 years old and no one says they're good.

>>723457112 (OP)
SaberLeomon has the furry equivalent of yaoi hands.

>>723479642
The source is Dr Spoc as far back as the 60's suggesting that maybe we shouldn't be so quick to smack children around? Are you an idiot are just a child yourself? I know your world revolves around tiktok and Twitter

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2792691/

Seeing the massive hatred for pokemon these past few years has made me realize this franchise was never actually good in the first place and now I have moved on from the series entirely.

>>723495001
The first couple games were incredible at the time. Getting gen 1 to run on an OG Gameboy was a technical marvel.

>>723483229
>Now imagine if Iwata supported digimon instead of Pokemon another thing it would be
>dlc sold piecemeal
>overpriced costume DLC
Maybe he is anon, maybe he is

>>723494932
Same with XY. The idea of the pokemon cycle was never true.

>>723494932
um
i love them

>>723495060
No it wasn't. There were plenty of RPGs on the Game Boy and they didn't all take half a decade to make like Red/Green did.

>>723494698
I thought that was a mistranslation and the slide in question was really about other studios not relying on outsourcing as much as they used to.

at first I hated it but then my fellow redditors informed me that it's supposed to be a reference to a kanji and now I've arbitrarily decided it's growing on me and in a month I'll say I always liked it

>>723482159
>I'm convinced that the weird fanaticism against ZA is forced and done by people who haven't played the game.

No shit it’s been like this since Gen 8, it’s autismos trying to force the games to fail as “revenge” since Gamefreak doesn’t let you use all Pokemon in every game anymore and they also removed event moves

>>723495274
Recurring wall sprites and plain text is nowhere near as cool as 302 unique monster sprites (front and back).

>>723458267
Digimon fans want Digimon to win
Pokemon fans want Digimon to win
Nintendo fans want Pokemon to win

>>723496682
That makes absolutely no fucking sense.

>>723496682
>Digimon fans want Digimon to win
As a Digimon fan I don't want it to "win". Time Stranger has some horrendously anti-consumer dlc practices.

>>723458082
/v/ have been shitting on Pokemon since X and Y, some since Black and White. Where have you been at?

>>723497151
There's a difference between shitting on something and criticising anon.

>>723497276
Oh you sweet summer child.

>>723496682
Pokemon fan here, I want Champions to win.
The rest, including the singleplayer of Pokemon games, are casual slop.

these are digimon in 2025

>>723457112 (OP)
POKECHADS!?

>>723498874
Pokemon is just gonna be review bombed for eternity because
>MUH NAT DEX
Isn't it?

>>723498874
>9.2

>>723458082
People wanted Legends Arceus but with Megas, this is not that

>>723499014
>shit game gets shitty reviews
>its just a le review bomb!!?!
are man children really like this? there are way better games out there, you dont have to defend garbage

>>723499176
There is not a single Pokemon game that's below a 6/10 and this is immediately obvious if you play any other creature game

>>723499014
I just checked and none of the negative user reviews even mentioned the dex. These games they're putting out are dogshit with or without it.

>>723496682
>Pokemon fans want Digimon to win
Based. Real fans are asking for a battle system with less mechanics, more grinding, less collectables, less content in general etc.

>>723499378
>Real fans are asking for a battle system with less mechanics, more grinding, less collectables, less content in general etc.
So... PLA? Because that's exactly what PLA was and even half of Game Freak's critics have mindbroken themselves into thinking it was a good game.

>>723499360
>T-they don't say it directly
It's apparent in the nitpicking that that's what it's about

>>723499480
Pointing out the glaring flaws in the game's pacing, combat, and visual presentation is not "nitpicking." It's criticism, which you'll only get from user reviews because the "professional" critics are paid not to.

>>723499715
Dog a 3/10 score means people are spamming 0s to force the average down, not that people are giving measured complaints about XYZ features

>pokemon is real time now
what happened, it looks shit

>>723499176
>>723499360
>pokefags aren't review bombing over dex-ACK!

>>723500028
sword and shield woke up a lot of people to how shit these games are
idk why youre defending lazy slop just to troll the le haters
troons love pokemon btw

>>723500174
Lmao what, the sales have only increased ever since, SV has sold at Pokemania level.

>>723457892
I wonder what would have happened if Pokemon kept with the kaiju theme.

>>723500174
>ok they are review bombing but here's why that's a good thing!
Holy cope. They would have eaten those games up if it wasn't for dexit, and they did, that's why the reviews were positive in the first place.

>>723460829
Digimon had the disadvantage of being way more niche by virtue of it being a virtual pet simulator, which doesn’t appeal as widely as a straight RPG. Then, while I somewhat respect the move, instead of sticking with the same system and iterating they spent the next three World games hopping genres, to varying levels of success (or depending on who you ask, failure).

>>723500028
>>723500259

>>723457112 (OP)
SaberLeomon is a Vaccine chad culling the Virus monkeypox since the early 2000s.

>>723499816
There's only 38 negative reviews and half of them have text, all of which explain why they don't like the game.
If it was being reviewbombed, there'd be a lot more negative reviews, the overwhelming majority of them wouldn't have any text and the ones that did would mostly be gibberish.
This is simply a bad game that the critics were paid to go easy on while the fans can tell it like it is.

>>723457112 (OP)
can digifags have threads without bringing up porn or pokemon?

>>723500656
>completely mindbroken into dumping random images
KEKAROO!

>>723500896
>Half of them have text
>The half of them that have text say things like "reeeee soulless" or "it's all shit" with no real elaboration

>>723500656
Pokemon is a pro Trans franchise so fucking what?
Go back to pol

>>723469330
smt 5 vengance is better in literally every single way besides story. But please, explain me in detail how the braindead easy game systems of 4 are better.

>>723478274
right HAS to be fake because I can see a balcony that isn't a texture.

>>723500985
...he says as the primary defense pokefags can muster to defend game freak nowadays is shit like
>eerrrrmmm what do you mean modern pokemon designs are bad didn't you see how good the porn of this green cat creature is??????
>how can the game be bad can't you see how good the female player character's ass looks when wearing these pants??????

>>723499014
people are completly past the nat dex cut because there are a million more obvious and glaring flaws in all modern pokeslop.

>>723501384
Whole map is void of detail. Not even ps2 gta is this bad.

>>723501575
At least there's things to find.
It's PLA the one that had no detail, all maps were flat with nothing in them.

>>723461363
Those fries would be cold in like 5 minutes

>>723501147
Based

>>723501525
Yes? The porn is all it's good for, who the fuck cares about these toddler games with their "OH MY HECKING HECKERINOS, POKEMON ARE OUR HECKING WHOLESOME FRIENDINOS".

Only way I'd be interested in Pokemon as a game is if they made Monster Hunter: Pokemon, where you fight and kill them

>>723457112 (OP)
Brutal mogging.

The problem with megas is that Masuda really had them lean into the idea that they were forced evolutions that didn't actually evolve the pokemon, but tweaked their bodies in horrifying and grotesque ways to make them more efficient killing machines, often incorporating elements of previous evolutions. Many mega evo pokemon like mega flygon were scrapped because they didn't lean into this aspect as much
Many of the new megas just ignore this.b ironically the one that doesn't is mega feraligatr, but that design also sucks because there's no clear fighting purpose behind its tododile shell

>>723501525
yeah, why copy them?
the two fanbases are exactly the same

>>723501852
>reddit spacing
>borester hunter shilling

It's a blast ignore the negative reviews

>>723501984
Killing monsters is far more fun than controlling them

>>723501929
>no clear fighting purpose behind its tododile shell
Nigger its a giant fucking mouth

>>723458082
I've been shitting on what Gamefreak produces for a decade

>>723502163
it's so slow and boring

>>723502131
>blast
>B L A S T

>>723502131
>Combat system is amazing

Nigga, is just worse digimon world.

>>723502163
I can think of few things as unfun as having to hit a slow moving monster for 30 minutes in a zero stakes and zero skill required situation.

>>723457112 (OP)
It targets a wider audience than most franchises which makes it rather safe and generic at times.

>>723501968
The currently ongoing digiGOD thread has a lore OP thougheverbeit

>>723502480
How about insta killing enemies for 15 hours like in every single Pokemon game?

>>723501984
>poketroon calling anything else a bore
Lmao

Jesus christ what the hell happened to /v/
>Pokemon
>Digimon
>Palworld
>The Sims
>Deltarune
>Life is Strange
>Danganronpa
>Marvel Rivals
You fags only play games made for children and teenage girls, you have the worst fucking taste in videogames on the internet

>>723458082
Because not only are they continuing to produce slop, but they’re also ruining old beloved fan favorite mons like Feraligatr and Starmie with dogshit megas. ZA is also expensive with paid DLC that should have been part of the base game.

>>723503005
Excessive amount of third worlders, and the few westerners here are schizophrenic manchildren.

>>723503005
thirdies and porn addicts rule this board

>>723503050
I hope they continue shitting all over it, maybe then you millennials will finally play games for your age instead of toddlerslop.

>>723502657
>>723502803
what makes you think I'm into pokemon? I'm an SMTchad.

>>723503180
Ah yes, Pokemon with edgy designs.
You monster catcher fans live in a loop of PS3 graphics and boring gameplay.

>>723458082
Slop should always be shit on.

>>723503287
So why does /v/ slurp up gacha "games"?

>>723503005
>t.MGSredditor

>>723494932
If you count the later 2/3rd of the game, then I liked it. The beginning section was rough.
It was also my last Pokemon game.

>>723503005
If only people at least shat on the franchise for being stupid kid shit, but look at this
>>723503050
it's adults who would unironically play this crap if it was in a good technical state, how can any adult put up with all the plushy designs and "POKEMON ARE OUR HECKING WHOLESOME FRIENDS".

>>723503471
Ah right, I forgot, you people love MGS, you love its garbage plot so much you've been seething about MGSV for 10 years now because it had none.
The average IQ in here must be in the double digits

>>723503363
Because at least those are free and give fans what they want which is cute and sexy girls

>>723503005
>'what the hell happened to /v/'
>lists games /v/ has been talking about for years and years
/vp/ (/tr/ at the time) was made specifically because Pokemon was talked about too much on here. I don't know what you mean.

>>723503005
adult games are even more boring

>>723503696
See?
Even normies who only play COD and FIFA have a better taste than /v/

>>723457112 (OP)
pokemon design going to shit after gen3(?) is one of the main gripe of the entire fandom, plus the true reason a competitor such as palworld even got a chance in the first place.

digimon design top pokemon all the way but simple a different audiece.

>>723503787
Because mindlessly easy games like Pokemon and literal non-games like Danganronpa are truly engaging.
Just admit you are the biggest casuals on the internet

>>723458082
>games whose gameplay has not changed for 20 years
>people still buy them and enjoys them
>literally the only thing you have to do is not to be shit
>be shit
>be woke
>double down

you can complete all the UN quests to save the planet in the last one anon. don't you wanna do it?

>>723504107
>you can complete all the UN quests to save the planet in the last one anon
I just finished ZA, the hell are you talking about

>>723504186
he is talking about the gen 10 leak where gamefreak wants to make each gym be tied to one of the UN's sustainability goals

>>723457112 (OP)
Pyroar's design is fine though once you get what it's supposed to be referencing

>>723504107
>literally the only thing you have to do is not to be shit
They failed from the start.
I remember my mom almost forcing me to play Pokemon games and buying them for my birthday just so I would play with others and they were just so boring, the whole picking attack thing.
At least I always managed to convince her to return them

>>723504334
I don't get the japanese to make stuff reference kanji, that archaic language system should have died centuries ago

>>723457112 (OP)
>monster catchers
>none of the creatures look truly monstruous
Everytime.

>>723498493
seems like Digimon to me

>>723504107
>you can complete all the UN quests to save the planet in the last one anon
That's planned for a future game and there's nothing woke or wrong with saving the planet, its a common trope in video games and Pokemon has always had environmentalist themes.

>>723504482
There's Parasimon from Digimon

>>723489406
>And then people see the pennies of a budget they gave one of their highest franchises
Doesn't gamefreak set their own budget and deadlines? Why the fuck does nintendo get shit on when games like xenoblade or the latest zeldas curb stomp pokemon so hard, and that's without comparing it with similar third party games on the console like persona or smt 5

>>723457112 (OP)
How did the world get fooled into believing pokemon have better designs than pokemon again?

>>723498874
>3.2
Surely it's fake, right?

I'll only play Pokemon when it starts looking like this.
And no UE5, get the CryEngine.

>>723498493
Most of them are Digimon I could see in early seasons of the anime, only Libreator and Alysion have this weird artstyle compared to the rest, but even then there are fine stuff there

>>723503925
>Vn are truly engaging.
yes

this shit is funny as fug

>>723505017
They literally dont count as videogames

>>723478228
BASED AKANTOR CHAD

>>723505075
and yet they are more fun than "mature" videogames

>>723505179
Sure, for the sissy ERPing casuals of /v/

>>723499014
if nintendo wants ot go the woke way, they should buy bots like the other companies that went woke did. or force the website to comply somehow, also a thing the woke companies did.

>>723504846
God that would be great, if Pokemon just went full edge.

>>723457112 (OP)
I wish I had power so that I could fly to japan and destroy Nintendo and Gamefreak. Then Israel.

>>723505712
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1UpPAEtXuqg

>>723458082
Criticism went into overdrive when the games hit the Switch.
Instead of getting an "evolution" of the franchise with the first mainline console Pokemon game ever (minus spinoffs), SwSh ended up being worse than most of the handheld games, and the only "upgrade" the games got by being put to a much more powerful system (other than screen res) was an open world that TPC slapped in with zero effort, almost everything else was a downgrade.
That put off a LOT of fans, but the games still sold fine (mostly due to A: hype from it being the first mainline Pokemon game ever, B: the open world being easy normalfag bait, and C: the Switch selling twice as many systems as the 3DS, thus having more people to buy it.)
This all led to a lot of the non-normalfag fans leaving the fanbase to go play Showdown, older games, or romhacks while ranting about how shit SwSh was, as normalfags themselves moved in so they can buy up the DLCs and soijack when something D-maxes.

Plus, bonus for Z-A, people have wanted Megas to come back since they're the least-stupid gimmick with the fewest issues, but then half the new Megas look shitty/lazy/bad while the other half are dumb memes to bait people into making TikToks about them because TPC only gives a fuck about marketing and nothing else.

>>723457112 (OP)
>comparing AAA budget game vs indie title

>>723506639 (me)
*open world area
Not an open world, SwSh had just that Wild Area.

>>723505241
what should adults play?

>>723508509
well?