Thread 723473082

To no one's surprise...

>>723473082 (OP)
Based score, would not have picked up if the score was higher.

>The Chinese Room made a shit game
The sky is blue.

This inspires more confidence than if they were gush over it.

>>723473826
Yeah.

I told you fags that it's gonna be a flop but you didn't believe me.

>>723473082 (OP)
>journalists said...!
you're a fool to look at what they say even a little

>>723473082 (OP)
I expect it to be shit but reviewer scores are worthless

>>723473082 (OP)
Yep.

lol wasn't this supposed to release in 2019!?

>>723473881
we're really sorry.. never doubt you again

>Reviews come out
>Even paid reviews can only give it an 8 at best
>The shill making nonstop threads for the game suddenly disappears
I'm nooticing

>>723473881
Literally No one had Faith in this game.

>>723473082 (OP)
>middling score
So a classic immersive sim?

>>723473881
Who the fuck thought this game was going to be good?

>>723473082 (OP)
womp womp

>>723473082 (OP)
Not a shitty game, not a great game, just a mediocre game that will be forgotten in less than a week. Sad!

really makes you think

>>723473082 (OP)
Who cares about a metacritic score? I suppose because none of you want to spend the money to critique it yourselves? I'd still rather people review games themselves on this board instead. Sorry I just see anything else as laziness. Also since metacritic never generally has had any bearing on steam store releases it's also alien to me in that sense.

>>723473082 (OP)
idk but to me it looks interesting, gameplay is janky but the VA and story seems decent.
I hope the mediocre reviews don't deter Chinese Room from continuing further work on VTM or WoD, cause I'd like to see them make another installement, fully fleshed out and not picking up someone else's project just to finish it, which imo is a success for them considering this project itself is way out of their scope and they managed to salvage some of it

lmao
after all those months of shilling on /v/

>>723476282
How is critic score even that high? Pretty sure the game was literally broken on release.

>>723477620
>>723477938
Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I've already seen the gameplay and artstyle and I'm not impressed.

>>723477938
Bro, no one is going to finance another VTM game ever again. The IP is cursed.

>>723477938
There's no way Paradox is funding another VtM game after the absolute disaster that was this one

HOOOOOLY FUCKING HYPE BROTHERS VMTB IS BAC-ACK

>>723478180
I'm not telling you to buy anything. But I would rather see you writing actual reviews or I don't think you should bother even commenting on it and starting threads about it. I prefer to see actual effort in posting rather than posting a bunch of numbers that don't mean anything. My gripe is low quality posting and not genuine discussions.

>>723473082 (OP)
I was expecting it to sit in the 70s so that's disappointing.
It is a bit odd seeing the reviews contradict each other - one complains about lack of variety in choice while another praises it. Or performance issues - some have no issues some have a lot. I was going to play the game at some point regardless I guess I'll just go in expecting the absolute worst.

>>723478562
Performance issues is always something that varies between reviews since some reviews care about but others don't.
The talk of shitty side quests is disappointing though.

>>723477938
>the VA
have you heard the main character’s annoying ethnic accent?

>>723477214
>Even paid reviews can only give it an 8 at best
Do you have a single fact to back this up?

>>723478562
>It is a bit odd seeing the reviews contradict each other
This game is a sequel to a beloved RPG, and the strategy of the sequel was to throw out the appeal of the old game in favor of finding a new audience. The reviewers who are fans of the old game will have different outlooks and grievances compared to the reviewers who are new (but seems like even they have their own problems with it).

the first game, reviewed objectively, would score lower

>>723480006
I see the score. I meant if you have any proofs that they were paid for that 8.
You just assume it, for emotional support.

>>723473082 (OP)
Every review says the story is good, but that the game is boring and bland as shit. Can't wait for reposts of out of context cutscenes to be spammed on Twitter and then here.

>>723480068
no

>>723480006
Are all of those out of 10?

I wonder how extensively it's going to be patched down the road. Not going to play it on release anyway as I'm occupied with ninja gaiden 4.

>>723480260
no

>>723480068
it did score lower
and barely ran on launch

at any rate, this looks like dishonored 3: vampire edition

Sounds like Chinese Room couldn't deliver after all. Not surprising considering their history, but I was still hopeful.

>>723478161
westoids didn't really have standards for domestic products back then and RPG players were some of the biggest slop eaters

>>723476290
Yes, but that would've been a different game back then. I haven't followed what's been happening with it, if /v tells me to be angry - I'm angry.

>>723478161
Most of those scores are from 2008 or later.

>>723480068
No way. It was a great game, it was just technically undercooked. The fan patch makes it into the game it was meant to be.

>>723480341
Most likely a half year of bug fixes before Paradox drops it because they want this to be over with.

>>723480507
no, it was an endearing bad game. it's okay to admit. many of my favorite games, vtmb included, fall into that category.

>>723480112
to be fair due to my past obsessions usually people used to think I was georgian or that I had watched every doctor who episode. But actually i didnt see those things as just… Them.


Basically:


pokemon/sailor moon/simpsons/total drama/kingdom Hearts/homestuck/my little pony/voltron/overwatch - just fictional to me now, they were also practically personally Met, to the point that they bled over into each other and into doctor who like the Brujah and the sims.


georgia (saKartvelo) - just a place to me now, but before was personally met and was also a Susan Wainwright cosplayer. Same with the vampire.


and now to me both Susan Wainwright from sims 3 and the female Malkavian and Luvic of traken from Doctor who are not just fictional but also personally met and they invade my mind a lot, soon they will be just fictional to me

>>723480386
If only the gameplay was half as good as dishonored. That's the problem with vtmb2: the gameplay is made by a dev who only made walking sims.

>>723480006
>eurogamer

>>723480653
>he posted it again

>>723480068
Kind of a trvke. The atmosphere is top notch in the original and the setting is super rare so the first game is still highly unique and worth experiencing but the game is objectively just mid at best.

>>723480653
Veilguard unironically has the best combat out of any Bioware game. Depends what he values, I guess. For Playstation owners who think God of War is peak gaming, Veilguard probably seemed good.

>>723478180
Why does he have perkier tits than she does?

>>723480653
>5/5 for Veilguard
>2/5 for Bloodlines 2
Paradox should have paid up like EA did

>>723473082 (OP)
is it out yet?

>>723480730
>Veilguard unironically has the best combat out of any Bioware game
>shittier nuGoW combat
Damn, I can't believe retards like you are allowed to exist

>>723480730
As a former DAfag, the combat wasn't enough to save the game

>>723478161
those scores are from +2009

>>723480883
shitter nugow combat is considered very good by most people
i play paradox games, rimworld and civilization, but i am aware enough to now what sonyboys like

>>723480653
>EA has more money to buy good reviews
Yeah, no shit.

It's gonna be great

>>723480963
>shitter nugow combat is considered very good by most people
I hate those people, they deserve to get houses flooded with cat piss

>>723480507
>No way. It was a great game
System Shock 1 remake scored lower because it was actually judged on the original games merits. Old games don't score well now. And a remaster will also never retain it's original score either.

>>723481064
*Their

>>723481149
Not on VTMB2 low score, but lower than SS1's original reception just correct misconceptions.

>>723481149
I haven't played System Shock but my understanding was that it was pretty good but flawed, 2 is the real standout classic that blew minds

>>723480596
It's not even out yet.

>>723477365
There was that one paid Paradox promoter. He at least pretended.

>>723480068
The first game is a masterpiece.
>but it has flaws
Masterpieces can afford to have those.

>>723477620
>I suppose because none of you want to spend the money to critique it yourselves?
yes, genius, the point of reviews is to avoid stinkers
This is such a bizarre thing to post about the most pedestrian reaction for /v/ or any other gaming forum, no wonder you got called a shill.

>>723473082 (OP)
Should've been a VR game. Would've been better than Justice.
UEVR is easily injectable but it being primarily a melee combat game, full motion controls would make it so much better.

>>723481289
Still scored lower and didn't retain its original score. So what do gaming journos think of an influential game like System Shock 2? not much anymore apparently.

>>723480006
>The 7 out of 10 kiss of death from IGN
Ouch

>>723481601
>the point of reviews is to avoid stinkers
Oh okay so gaming journalists are suddenly trust worthy now? nobody gives a shit about reviews from big sites except for black people that own playstation consoles and have to be told what to think about games. Which obviously you are a nog.

>>723481697
No one buys so anymore, and there was already a VtM VR game, and no one played it.

>>723480068
Sure, because of the bugs.
The sequel’s problems isn’t the bugs.

I am still salty about that Safia twist.
It's literally "Doofie was a serial killer" plot twist from The Scary Movie, but played straight.

>>723480883
>>shittier nuGoW combat
That's still better than most Bioware games and every other DA

>>723481149
The SS1 remake sucks, it removes all of the atmosphere and color of the original.

>>723473881
Truly you were the only one, anon.

>Chinese Room
How are they still alive.

>>723473082 (OP)
Did it get a shit score because it's a bad VtM game or did it get a shit score because it's a bad game in general?
If it's still a cool vampire game I might get it.

>>723482124
1m+ people have played arkham shadows
The VR game is VtM Justice, it had no budget, and it's a mobile game at best

>>723480068
>reviewed objectively
it's not a tire pump, you can't review art objectively.

>>723482217
But that can't be the end, right? It's from that dude who leaked the first couple hours, right?

>>723482305
Walking Sims are rather cheap to produce since all is player locomotion and then it's just writing your audio drama on top.
if this game flops though they might be done.

>>723482369
It’s like if chatGPT made a vampire game.

>>723482448
It's literally the ending of the game. She's the fucking final boss.
It's so dumb.

>>723482369
They like the DEI crap and the modern WOD writing, but the fucking game is just not fun to play. Not even in game journo mode.

>>723473082 (OP)
the original VTMB strengths was the atmosphere/music/story EXCEPT the actual gameplay.

so what did they do for VTMB2? doubling down on gameplay and the expense of atmosphere/music/story.
no shit it failed.

should've been a visual novel right from the start.

>>723482369
It's a bad sequel to Bloodlines but seems to be okay as a game set in the Masquerade world.
As far as it's quality as a game reviewers are mostly praising the story while more divisive on the combat with even those liking it saying it gets repetitive.

>>723482506
Then the next week on /v/ is going to be glorious. Nothing can save this game and everybody saw it coming.

>>723482509
I've seen more complaints about the world design and lack of interesting side content than combat, which most of the game journos seem to think is at worst serviable if lacking enemy variety.

>>723482453
is VTMB2 a walking sim?

>>723482369
I'd be surprised if the average journo had played the first one.

>>723482602
>game reviewers are mostly praising the story
I wouldn't trust the same guys who pretend that TLOU2 is some written masterpiece.

>>723482681
No, but everything else these guys have made is

I want to look forward to this game so badly but I can't think of anything they will do decent.

>>723473082 (OP)
new narrativ from corporate: it's gonna be a cult hit like the original which also didn't have that great reviews, let all the other marketers know

>>723482509
the original game wasn't fun to play either.

>>723482062
I'm reading a teen posturing as if he's the brightest bulb in the room. At least it'd be forgivable for a teen.
Unless you'd like to own up to being a newfag, since reacting to reviews is what this board done for every notable game since its inception.

>32% Critics Recommend
>32% Critics Recommend
>32% Critics Recommend
>32% Critics Recommend
OOF

never heard of it

>>723482769
It was fun enough to play, especially with melee or magic builds. Thanks to the source engine the combat had great feedback to it.

>>723482823
>since reacting to reviews is what this board done for every notable game since its inception.
Oh no I've known you've done this for a long time and the metacritic posting has been a long staple of poor posting quality on this board for a long time. But remember that you could not even criticise Zelda Breath of the Wild because LE GREEN HIGH NUMBER on metacritic. Or you could never criticise The Last of Us because Gaming's citizen Kane moment... a masterpiece!

If you're still proud of the console wars shit flinging for a decade or so on this board then I'm going to address you like a retarded baby. I will address any oldfag as the kind of special needs person that wears a helmet and inflatable water wings.

>>723482754
>studio who are experts at walking sims
>VTMB1 lauded by people saying that it should've been a walking sim
>creates sequel by making a bog-standard action game
> fails

it's like they wanted to seppuku

>>723483074
LMAO
M
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>>723483074
That jumped out to me too.
Was really hoping against hope it'd be a decent vampire game.

>>723473082 (OP)
>The Chinese Room makes a bad game
WOW what a surprise.

Anyway, why did Paradox reboot the development again? The Hardsuit Labs version was definitely not any worse than this shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95H0zhZOv4w

>>723484336
Brian Mitsoda was probably a sex pest and once he was got gone the studio had internal struggles so Paradox had to step in.
Either that or that one femoid SJW writer instigated some shit that led to said internal struggles.

>>723484336
Supposedly the studio was a revolving door and they stopped fully working on the game during covid despite deadlines.

>>723473082 (OP)
Did Paradox forget the bribes or are they going all in on streamers?

>>723484336
>That's a man baby!

>>723484336
>Anyway, why did Paradox reboot the development again?
Corporate politics and general mismanagement.

>>723484654
seems like it, they also spent a pretty coin on marketers around here.

>>723484336
They don't even have the excuse she looks like a tranny that "Women age, chud!" Vampires don't age.

>>723483584
You act like the biggest brain because you don't hold metacritic as the ultimate measure of worth, but no one here does. It's just one point in a totality of evidence, especially interesting at release, when public couldn't possibly have played through the game yet. You are like the 15th person in the thread to shit on the journos.
I took your question as genuine >>723477620 , but now you reveal that it's just a rhetorical one, serving only to fellate yourself. Ew.

>>723485049
>but no one here does.
false, incorrect. People use it as a cop out excuse all the time to defend games that they can't argue in good faith about. The count down since people SEETHED about Zelda BOTW posting for example always drew attention to its metacritic score. I've written scathing reviews of Sony's games in the past too and I was often met with a response of how it scored on metacritic rather than any counter argument in opposition to what I had criticised. That does not correspond with what I've seen on this board for a long time.

>>723485505
Don't care for your blogpost, this is vtmb thread.

>>723482218
>That's still better than most Bioware games
Wrong
> and every other DA
Also wrong.

>>723485505
I'll solve the mystery for you
>Results go the way you like it: you copypaste
>Results go against what you argue: ratings are fake, gay and paid for

>>723480423
>that butthurt that some shitty vampire game mogs all the jarpig titles out there
kek

>>723481587
i would argue that a game is truly a masterpiece if it's so endearing that you'd give it a 10/10 despite its flaws. Sums up how I feel about New Vegas.

>>723485983
mogged so hard it killed the studio and kneecapped third party usage of the engine
but i guess suicide is considered normal by you trannies

What the next sequel the chinese room will ruin? They already fucked over amnesia and now this

>>723489040
Warhammer 40k Fire Warrior

>>723473881
Who is the single anon that didn't believe you?

>>723489180
fuckin sold
im game

>>723489040
machine for pigs was better than the pregnant ruin explorer one

>>723480653
Wtf VTMB2 confirmed GOTY, /v/ BTFO

>>723481289
No, 1 is a masterpiece. 2 is overrated by fags larping as 90s mustardrace boomers.
>t. has played both

>>723473727
>I base my purchasing habits on other people's opinions
Get a review copy from cs-rin, npc.

>>723473082 (OP)
>Bloodlines 2 is just like Bloodlines 1 it is shat on by journos but it will become a cult classic!
>Bloodlines 1 was always utter shit anyways

Wait a minute, if you mix together both shill copes, does that means they agree Bloodlines 2 is shit...?

>>723493440
Bloodlines 1 wasn't even shat on by journos.
Most of the pic related reviews are from 2004 and 2005.

So it's not an overhyped normiebait game after all? I might check this out.

>>723480069
Every big studio buys reviews, we've known this for years now.

>>723493983
It's a failed normie bait. It erased everything from Bloodlines 1 which made it an RPG and tried to be a Dishonored, and somehow failed at doing that. And not by a small margin. They failed at being mediocre.