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Anonymous No.723476509 >>723476569 >>723479741 >>723480239 >>723480508 >>723480642 >>723481003 >>723481067 >>723481082 >>723481561 >>723481737 >>723481752 >>723481794 >>723481875 >>723481884 >>723482083 >>723483018 >>723483307 >>723486550 >>723487207 >>723487652 >>723487780 >>723488103 >>723488183 >>723488602 >>723488926 >>723489641 >>723490052 >>723490764 >>723490903 >>723491318 >>723491971 >>723493441 >>723494173 >>723494534 >>723496093 >>723496198 >>723496720 >>723498790 >>723501369
What happened to traditional fantasy?
Anonymous No.723476568
modern psychology
Anonymous No.723476569
>>723476509 (OP)
Not faggoty enough
Heroes of Might and Magic is now pozzed
Anonymous No.723478089 >>723483120 >>723490047 >>723490752 >>723491370 >>723491521
millennial writing
Anonymous No.723479741 >>723499334
>>723476509 (OP)
Post-modernism.
https://youtu.be/MYPNc8LUBWM
Anonymous No.723480239
>>723476509 (OP)
It's still there exactly where you left it
Anonymous No.723480508 >>723490764 >>723502512
>>723476509 (OP)
You just know
Anonymous No.723480642
>>723476509 (OP)
I bet this dragon gives great blowjobs
Anonymous No.723480691 >>723486403
Anonymous No.723480919 >>723492024 >>723506263
Baldur's Gate III is basically still that nerd fantasy you had back in the day in '80, yes is gay, but nerd culture even if not woke was still gay. To compare for example Dragon Age Origins is gay, But the last game of the same series is woke.
Anonymous No.723481003
>>723476509 (OP)
Sherk happened
Anonymous No.723481067 >>723481884
>>723476509 (OP)
What do you mean? It's still the most overused setting.
Anonymous No.723481082 >>723483120
>>723476509 (OP)
Only incels still care about it and they're too retarded to make videogames
Anonymous No.723481561
>>723476509 (OP)
fuck dragon
Anonymous No.723481737 >>723482043 >>723490997
>>723476509 (OP)
Everyone got bored of it, which should be expected considering how intensely angloids were shoving it down everyone's throat after declaring Tolkien the most important writer in history (after Rowling that is). And it's boring as shit really.
Anonymous No.723481752 >>723489718 >>723491158 >>723495103 >>723495317 >>723497079 >>723497815 >>723505705
>>723476509 (OP)
it's a mystery
Anonymous No.723481794 >>723481936 >>723483225 >>723484508 >>723486879
>>723476509 (OP)
I want to play the game in your pic.
Let me have a dragon party member please.
Anonymous No.723481875
>>723476509 (OP)
man I wish I could fuck a dragon (female)
Anonymous No.723481884
>>723476509 (OP)
people started to think like this >>723481067 retard, so for the last 20 years everything had to be subversive bullshit
Anonymous No.723481914 >>723482428 >>723490770
Anonymous No.723481936 >>723482087
>>723481794
To explore dungeons with, right?
Anonymous No.723481953 >>723483419
this is DSP fan art
Anonymous No.723482043 >>723482502 >>723490118
>>723481737
people really forget just how damn common it was in the 80s and 90s
there's a shit ton of forgotten D&D settings that never needed to be separate
every game decided to use the same look as those books because thats just what you do for fantasy they thought
they'd even change the covers of japanese rpgs because localization team just saw what was common
Anonymous No.723482083
>>723476509 (OP)
She needs to be at least 3 times bigger.
Anonymous No.723482087 >>723483225
>>723481936
That too, of course.
Then as the game progresses and the dragon grows you begin engaging in aerial battles alongside it.
Let me be a dragonrider with my dragonbuddy.
Anonymous No.723482227 >>723483086 >>723483237 >>723483313 >>723493435 >>723498858
It's still weird to me how Eragon was so popular with that age group of millennials and then just vanished and even now that they're old there's no big wave of nostalgia pandering dragonrider shit
Anonymous No.723482428 >>723490920
>>723481914
Anonymous No.723482502 >>723482925 >>723483246 >>723483306
>>723482043
turns out its the only good setting
sci fi is garbage and everything else is kitchen sink slop
Anonymous No.723482925
>>723482502
yeah fantasy is great, but i'm saying that the sword and sorcery "look" got overused until it didn't and now people have nostalgia over it

thats just business i guess, just copy what was successful until everyone is sick of it
Anonymous No.723483018
>>723476509 (OP)
Ruined by poz
Anonymous No.723483086
>>723482227
Eragon was very flash in the pan. It's quality doesn't hold up at all looking back as an adult.
Anonymous No.723483120 >>723490631
>>723478089
Gen X writing, faggot.

>>723481082
The whole fucking video game industry was invented by incels, you fucking retard.
Anonymous No.723483225 >>723483454 >>723490830
>>723481794
>>723482087
So, Drakengard?
Anonymous No.723483237
>>723482227
I'm still mad he went with the elf
Anonymous No.723483246 >>723501745
>>723482502
Sci fi has orders of magnitude more potential than fantasy as a setting, because sci fi can be a serious genre of literature while fantasy can't amount to anything beyond YA entertainment pulp by definition. However brains are needed to make passable sci fi. Brains are not needed to make passable fantasy.
Anonymous No.723483286
For me it's Science Fantasy.
Anonymous No.723483306 >>723494330
>>723482502
But anon, fantasy is just post-apocalyptic sci-fi.
Anonymous No.723483307
>>723476509 (OP)
>helmet
He may live.
Anonymous No.723483313 >>723483440 >>723483515 >>723483753 >>723483879 >>723484089 >>723484523 >>723488337 >>723488724 >>723488805 >>723489270 >>723494045 >>723497427 >>723501391
>>723482227
>Dude gets a slightly autistic dragonesses
>Doesn't fuck her
>Instead, falls for a fucking knife-ear bitch who constantly rejects him
>Series ends up with Eragon getting rejected by said elf bitch one last time as Saphira gets railed mid-air above them by the elf bitch's dragon (And he feels Saphira being fucked because they feel each other's physical feelings.)
>Book ends on him exiling himself in the desert to raise the dragon's kids.
Gee, I wonder why Eragon didn't create any nostalgia
Anonymous No.723483419
>>723481953
Impossible, that knight clearly knows how to crouch-jump.
Anonymous No.723483440
>>723483313
Real and true
Anonymous No.723483454 >>723490830
>>723483225
More than drakengard.
Fuck, I love that game.
Anonymous No.723483515
>>723483313
Eragon walking away really bothered me even as a young lad. Also chris just walking away with his bag and not making more books for years was probably for the best.
Anonymous No.723483753
>>723483313
That infuriated me even as a wee lad.
Anonymous No.723483879
>>723483313
Children's book?
Anonymous No.723484089
>>723483313
WTF I thought only Japs are capable of writing endings which are THAT lame and disappointing.
Anonymous No.723484508 >>723484613 >>723498240
>>723481794
You know exactly how that would go, anon.
Anonymous No.723484523 >>723484613 >>723488364 >>723489312 >>723498758
>>723483313
Can you name even one book where a human gets together with a female dragon? And I mean dragon, not "haha, I turned myself into a human girl, Morty!"
Anonymous No.723484613 >>723485108
>>723484508
No. Fuck you.

>>723484523
Does it count if the dragon turns into a human girl then back into a dragon then the guy turns into a dragon?
Anonymous No.723485108 >>723485340
>>723484613
Maybe? I'd prefer straight up human x dragon even if there's no seggs.
Anonymous No.723485340
>>723485108
Yeah. Me too, but that's the best I got.
They start as human and dragon, become friends, the dragon gets turned into a human for a while, then gets turned back then at the very end of it all the dude gets turned into a dragon and they have a little daughter.
Something like that.
The series was called Dragons of Mother Stone I think. It's been a while.
Anonymous No.723486403 >>723489141
>>723480691
Age gap???
Anonymous No.723486519 >>723487040 >>723489385
cool """"""video game""""""" thread retards
Anonymous No.723486550 >>723491353
>>723476509 (OP)
we'll never get Drakan 3, will we?
Anonymous No.723486879 >>723487149
>>723481794
Play Shining Force.
Anonymous No.723487040
>>723486519
dragonfucker board
Anonymous No.723487149 >>723487501 >>723487601 >>723487609
>>723486879
Which?
Is the dragon an actual character or just a prop?
How much can you interact with them?
Anonymous No.723487180 >>723487292 >>723487416
i tried to read some /scaly/ e-book but it was so pozzed with masculine women and non-binary characters i couldn’t make it to the dragon parts
Anonymous No.723487207 >>723487321
>>723476509 (OP)
GRRM delivered a lethal blow, and everyone/the popular trend since, has been to keep beating the dying body rather than trying to resuscitate it
Anonymous No.723487292 >>723487916
>>723487180
Name?
I can look past that stuff if it delivers where it counts.
Anonymous No.723487321 >>723487449
>>723487207
How would you resuscitate it?
Anonymous No.723487416 >>723487704 >>723487916
>>723487180
>masculine women
but I thought you faggots were obsessed with tomboys
Anonymous No.723487449 >>723487650
>>723487321
Couldn't say with certainty that it would work, but for a practical start, begin by delivering a lethal blow to GRRM, and see if that works.
Anonymous No.723487501 >>723487625 >>723487673 >>723498659
>>723487149
The first one, he's pretty significant, he's sort of the "main character" of Chapter 6.

The GBA remake Resurrection of the Dark Dragon has more interaction because the party members have a hidden "social link" system with more dialogue. Although Bleu got nerfed powerwise a bit, in the Genesis version he's one of the most OP characters.
Anonymous No.723487574 >>723488210
Is it good?
Anonymous No.723487601 >>723487673
>>723487149
Shining Force 1. The character's name is Bleu. He's one of the "main" recruits in the plot.
Anonymous No.723487609 >>723487673
>>723487149
Bleu is a character you get but it's really late in the game and you have to grind him.
Anonymous No.723487625
>>723487501
Post-promotion portrait
Anonymous No.723487650 >>723487906
>>723487449
What's the point? It is obvious to everyone that he won't release anything anymore, he's too old, doesn't give a fuck, and whatever general spoilers he gave to TV show makers should satisfy people who want to know how it ends (if you can call that shit satisfying).
Anonymous No.723487652
>>723476509 (OP)
The joke is sex isn't it?
I have cumbrain fatigue
Anonymous No.723487673
>>723487501
>>723487601
>>723487609
Sick.
Noted.
Thank you anons.

>The GBA remake Resurrection of the Dark Dragon has more interaction because the party members have a hidden "social link" system with more dialogue
Got it.
Time to do some retro gaming.
Anonymous No.723487704
>>723487416
Tomboys are not masculine women you retard.
>tomboy - girl who has boy interests but is embarrassed to do girly things.
>masculine (wo)man - IT'S MA'AM
Anonymous No.723487780 >>723489090 >>723490428 >>723490549 >>723498457
>>723476509 (OP)
Isekai overexposed it to such a extent that anybody who is actually creative fucking hates it with a passion now and prefers literally anything else.

Also it was always shit, frankly. The very term traditional fantasy is fucking offensive to me.
Anonymous No.723487906
>>723487650
We're just trying anything that will work, do you know for sure it won't work?

>I dunno, have you tried... kill all the poor?
Anonymous No.723487916 >>723488036 >>723488091 >>723498057
>>723487292
scales and honor

>>723487416
it gets tedious when every male character might as well be a dog for how much they contribute to the story, some flawless cunt is the best at everything while the male characters exist to be wrong and die pathetically
Anonymous No.723488006
>furry draws a dragon
>its just a MLP pony with scales and horns
Anonymous No.723488036
>>723487916
>scales and honor
Thank you anon.

>it gets tedious when every male character might as well be a dog for how much they contribute to the story, some flawless cunt is the best at everything while the male characters exist to be wrong and die pathetically
I'm writing a dragonrider fantasy story, and that kind of thing can serve as a good reference/reminder on what not to do.
Anonymous No.723488091 >>723488229 >>723488367
>>723487916
>some flawless cunt is the best at everything while the male characters exist to be wrong and die pathetically
You will either love or hate my story with a passion.
Anonymous No.723488103 >>723488251
>>723476509 (OP)
Transdom happened.

Also your pic is not traditional at all. Wtf is that dog dragon?
Anonymous No.723488145
Since this thread has fuck all to do with video games, allow me to fix that issue with my own game: The Frydarian Tale.
Anonymous No.723488183 >>723488557
>>723476509 (OP)
Co-opted by the queer communities.
Anonymous No.723488210
>>723487574
Fuck no, but it's worth a go regardless.
Anonymous No.723488229 >>723488367 >>723488474 >>723488560
>>723488091
NTA, but that kind of thing can work when done with purpose.
Anonymous No.723488251 >>723488516 >>723489502
>>723488103
It's traditional, anon.
Anonymous No.723488337 >>723488547 >>723488958
>>723483313
>overtly imply something
>fans go along with it, because it is overtly implied
>then get upset or something? who knows, but then introduce something to break up the thing you overtly implied
>then fucking fuck that up too in the most humiliating way because you weren't supposed to enjoy the thing they overtly implied

Same shit with Primal.
>NO YOU ARENT SUPPOSED TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY IM TAKING MY TOYS AND THROWING THEM AROUND
Is that it?
Anonymous No.723488364 >>723489336
>>723484523
Shrek
Anonymous No.723488367 >>723488474
>>723488091
>>723488229
Shit, hit Post by accident.
>NTA, but that kind of thing can work when done with purpose.
And has a satisfying payoff of some kind.
You need to stick the landing.
Anonymous No.723488474
>>723488229
>>723488367
It can. Main point in my story is mostly just to highlight how the MC is relatively powerless. He's also morally largely shown to be in the right and somehow keeps going most fights ending with him suffering horrendous injuries.
Anonymous No.723488516
>>723488251
Yes, your pic is, but not OP's.
Anonymous No.723488547 >>723488743 >>723488831
>>723488337
To be fair, to be fucking fair, the average person probably does not see animal-human bonding and think "SEX", at least back in the day.
Anonymous No.723488557 >>723488864 >>723494818 >>723501757
>>723488183
Please, anon, that happened back in 1984 when that faggot Raistlin Majere was written.
Anonymous No.723488560 >>723488861
>>723488229
like they kill the MCs son off like it’s nothing, because boys are worthless so it’s fine if they die, meanwhile no minor female ever gets harmed despite constant spotlighting on female soldiers since they’re better than male soldiers, it’s such male feminist cuckoldry, don’t have female soldiers or have the balls to kill them
Anonymous No.723488602
>>723476509 (OP)
Le morals are actually bad. Le villain is actually right. Everyone is either tryhard cool or tryhard ridiculous. The concept of tropes as building blocks. Subversion for the sake of it. Wastefulness, degeneration etc. Postmodernism. The fact that a growing percentage of people interested are self-absorbed identity farming queers. Lack of genuine passion. Lack of vision. Lack of talent. Above all is preoccupation with sex as identity and being in intimate relationships with people. It feminizes men and hijacks the brains of women. Once that kind of sex becomes a focus in any story it becomes this pervasive influence that diminishes the actual romance of fantasy, instead people start engaging with their dicks. This became more of a problem with visual media like games and obviously TV, but now it's seeped into shit like D&D, which was the wellspring of all computer RPGs, so now that's fucking corrupted by it. Anyway, play Ultima. Old Sierra adventure games like Kings Quest or especially Conquests of Camelot were good too.
Anonymous No.723488724 >>723488848
>>723483313
There's no fucking way that's what happens
Anonymous No.723488743 >>723488848
>>723488547
It depends.
Anonymous No.723488805
>>723483313
good thing that I remember only the movie
somehow feels better
Anonymous No.723488831
>>723488547
Exactly, which is why the need to course correct in such a retarded way is so dumb, uh you can't like spike and fang so we're setting him on fire while he gets raped, what the fuck?
Anonymous No.723488848 >>723489307 >>723496842
>>723488724
I can confirm that anon's post is pretty accurate.

>>723488743
>that movie
God damnit.
The poor drugged leopard man.
Anonymous No.723488861
>>723488560
>it’s such male feminist cuckoldry, don’t have female soldiers or have the balls to kill them
I have a very mild ryona fetish so I would never do that.
Anonymous No.723488864 >>723488917
>>723488557
Nobody liked this asshole.
Anonymous No.723488917
>>723488864
I wish.
Anonymous No.723488926
>>723476509 (OP)
The gates were breached and it stopped being a nerd thing.
Anonymous No.723488946 >>723489373
Women can't write.
Left to their own devices their greatest achievement is fucking booktok where they discuss how to deepthroat dragon and horsecocks.
All the good female writers literally existed when women weren't allowed to do anything.
Anonymous No.723488958 >>723489213
>>723488337
I mean, Paolini's writing has a lot of weird shit in it.
>Elf werewolves that makes all females instantly drench themselves, literally. And it's all explained in weirdly extensive detail
>Eragon making the invincible BBEG with an impenetrable magic shield explode by telling him that being evil is bad
And don't get me started on his morbidly hyper fat Saphira fetish he openly posts about on twitter, for some reason.
Anonymous No.723489071 >>723489152
I just want to say.
Dragon sex.
Anonymous No.723489090 >>723489175 >>723489216 >>723489947 >>723490158 >>723504489
>>723487780
Isn't "isekai" explicitly a subversion of "traditional fantasy" in that you can smuggle in all the modern psychology and knowledge into that fantasy land without doing any work?
Anonymous No.723489141 >>723490679 >>723499187
>>723486403
3000 years
Anonymous No.723489152 >>723489246
>>723489071
No. That's precisely what's killing traditional fantasy.
Anonymous No.723489175 >>723489606
>>723489090
>in that you can smuggle in all the modern psychology and knowledge into that fantasy land without doing any work?
It's not because whenever people write normal fantasy the characters more often than not do that anyway.
Anonymous No.723489213 >>723489702
>>723488958
isn't he essentially "chris chan that could"? That wouldn't surprise me then.

I'm a bit out of sync with my "writers of fantasy maculature" data repository so correct me if i'm wrong
Anonymous No.723489216 >>723489670
>>723489090
He is a retarded weeb. Don't listen to him.

Western fantasy doesn't need anything anime inserted into it, so he is approaching it from a completely backward perspective.
Anonymous No.723489246 >>723489636
>>723489152
It is? Can you show some examples?
Anonymous No.723489270
>>723483313
It doesn’t help that the gap between the start and finish was far too large for a YA series.
If you’re doing long term YA you need to either have yearly releases to remind people it still exists, or cut it into several arcs to on board new readers.
Anonymous No.723489307
>>723488848
>I can confirm that anon's post is pretty accurate.
I've been meaning to read more so I stop using my phone in bed at night. Good to know I can scratch that series off my list. What a load of ass
Anonymous No.723489312
>>723484523
The only male human team up with dragoness I know is the fourth (yes, fourth) sequel to Dragonheart. Although I didn't watch it.
Anonymous No.723489336
>>723488364
There is no human on dragon romance in shrek. Only the inferior donkey on dragon romance.
Anonymous No.723489373 >>723489561
>>723488946
what was that minotaur book anons were discussing
Anonymous No.723489385 >>723489483
>>723486519
>NOOOOO ITS NOT A THREAD CENTERED AROUNDS TITTS, ASS, PORN, OR GACHASHIT GAMES!!! JANIEEEEEES SAVE MEEEEEEEEE
kys retard
Anonymous No.723489448 >>723489815
If I was to put my time and effort into making a small to medium sized campaign featuring a female dragon npc party member you can romance if you play your cards right? Which game would you guys rather I make it for?
Neverwinter Nights? Its sequel? Solasta?
Some other game?
Anonymous No.723489483 >>723489581
>>723489385
>>NOOOOO ITS NOT A THREAD CENTERED AROUNDS TITTS, ASS, PORN
It literally is, retard.
Anonymous No.723489487 >>723489691 >>723489887 >>723496249 >>723500790 >>723500886
Are there any good games where you can play as a dragon and do cool dragon shit?
Anonymous No.723489502 >>723490338
>>723488251
I get the historical context for why they get portrayed as scrawny midgets and weren’t believed to be that way in folklore, but the idea anyone was scared of dragons the way they’re shown in medieval/renaissance paintings always gives me a giggle.
Anonymous No.723489561
>>723489373
Morning Glory Milking Farm
female writing is all just smut, literal gooner brainrot, and the fantasy is about how many animal cocks they can take in their holes
Anonymous No.723489581 >>723489736
>>723489483
doesnt fit this steriotype like the 56 other threads
Anonymous No.723489606 >>723489798
>>723489175
well, that can just be wrote off as shlock and bad writing, not lazy subversion.
Anonymous No.723489636
>>723489246
Anonymous No.723489641 >>723489940 >>723490115 >>723492595 >>723493797 >>723501159 >>723501235
>>723476509 (OP)
Modern traditional fantasy is so lame it killed off the genre
Anonymous No.723489670 >>723489845 >>723490010
>>723489216
>Western fantasy doesn't need anything anime inserted into it
Western fantasy and Eastern fantasy is mostly indistinguishable and one reflects poorly on the other. Most people are so fucking sick of seeing Elves and Dwarves, be they anime or otherwise.

The biggest issue with western fantasy, outside of most good writers having jumped ship at this point and those being rare in the first place, is mostly that modern fantasy struggles with balancing inclusivity with a desire for genuinly more mature and dark settings.
Anonymous No.723489691
>>723489487
mods but unironically
Anonymous No.723489702
>>723489213
If I recall, his parents own their own publishing company and put out his first book, a story about a farmboy who bonds with a dragon and joins a multicultural resistance against the bad guy, who betrayed all the other dragon riders and conquered the world. Critical reception was "not bad for a first-time novelist", and that somehow got flipped into "BOLD NEW ENTRY IN YOUNG ADULT FANTASY". The next couple books were mainly memorable for him wanking the elves' vegetarianism and atheism (because he himself is a vegetarian atheist), only to recant when he realized how douchey they came across as.
Anonymous No.723489718
>>723481752
I hate californians so god damn much
Anonymous No.723489736 >>723489905
>>723489581
Doesn't mean its not an off topic porn addict thread.
Anonymous No.723489798 >>723492798
>>723489606
Fantasy really doesn't have much of a subversion issue despite how much people try to push the idea that it does. Warcraft 3 is generally uniformly beloved and it does quite a bit of subversion. But it does it well in a way that largely draws on a lot of popular well accepted, if pulpy, works on fantasy. Meanwhile, modern Warcraft unironically plays most things very straight and is much more boring as a result.

The biggest issue with fantasy is mostly that it's a dead end as a genre.
Anonymous No.723489815 >>723490936
>>723489448
Solasta, simply because I find a game with that level of jank very fun.
Anonymous No.723489845 >>723490202 >>723490751 >>723502214
>>723489670
modern fantasy's problem is literally because everyone wants to be the next fatty fat martin
too much sex, too much edglelord, too much "gotcha!"
Anonymous No.723489887 >>723490102
>>723489487
There's Divinity: Dragon Commander, though you merely pilot the dragon in that one. There's Hoard, I guess, though that's some sort of boardgame-esque affair
Anonymous No.723489905 >>723490223
>>723489736
yet tons of them are on the log right now, are these "video games" threads in the room with us rioght now?
Anonymous No.723489940
>>723489641
Fuck does Daybreak even do these days since canceling Next?
Anonymous No.723489947
>>723489090
It depends on the author.
Sometimes it’s as you say, but sometimes it’s simply because the author is too goddamn lazy to write natural exposition. For these authors, just shove in an isekai teleportation, have a character or even the, and may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, system, dump all of it in a β€œwelcome to isekai land!” speech when the MC arrives and you’re golden.
Anonymous No.723490010 >>723490202 >>723490481
>>723489670
>mostly indistinguishable
Anime with Western flavor is embarrassingly Japanese and appeals to these exact groups that ruin fantasy. Their elves for example lose all the real world lore that you find in JRR Tolkien, and get reduced to a joke horizontal ear basement coomer bait race.
Anonymous No.723490047
>>723478089
>zoom zoom broccoli heads trying to bring down their betters
Anonymous No.723490052 >>723490170 >>723490174 >>723491297
>>723476509 (OP)
Why are gamers like this?
Anonymous No.723490102 >>723490234 >>723490482
>>723489887
You are the dragon, though, you just shapeshift into a man when not wearing a giant jetpack and personally strafing your enemies. Divinity II also has you play a dragon capable of shapeshifting.
Anonymous No.723490115
>>723489641
That pic is basically Heroes of Might & Magic then and now. The art used to be like the top pic, now it's dime a dozen mobile game art.
Anonymous No.723490118
>>723482043
SOVL
Anonymous No.723490158 >>723490329
>>723489090
I think that was the idea, but it's pretty common that the isekai setup is basically handwaved for the sake of a standard fantasy plot. At most it might be an excuse for more modern language that might feel out of place in a strictly-fantasy setting
Anonymous No.723490170
>>723490052
>m
fucking retard
Anonymous No.723490174 >>723490730
>>723490052
That's really cute.
Anonymous No.723490189 >>723490324
Anonymous No.723490202 >>723490353
>>723489845
Oh, the influence of Game of Thrones is certainly also a problem. Not helped by the fact that Game of Thrones is never going to be finished.

>>723490010
Tolkien elves are in a league of their own compared to literally all other fantasy. Even franchises that have Elves I like can't compete with his autism
Anonymous No.723490223 >>723490459
>>723489905
>b-but other people are doing it too!!
kys
Anonymous No.723490234
>>723490102
My bad, I haven't actually played it yet, even though it's in my library. It might be high time to change that
Anonymous No.723490324
>>723490189
The same crowd wants "aliens" that are just humans with blue skin.
Anonymous No.723490329 >>723490464
>>723490158
the handwave is the point, they can just shove anything into the setting from the modern world with no effort. they don't actually have to do any world building and even if they did the isekai part would overthrow it. isekai can't be traditional fantasy at all.
Anonymous No.723490338
>>723489502
Fire insurance wasn't invented until 1680, anon.
Anonymous No.723490353 >>723490537
>>723490202
He just read real world mythology. Yes, good elves are based on Western mythology. Wtf do Mongoloids know about it? Nothing.
Anonymous No.723490428 >>723490592 >>723490649 >>723490954
>>723487780
Isekai sucks because the protagonist is always some whiny faggot instead of following the simple principle of "when in rome do as the romans do".
Anonymous No.723490459 >>723490594
>>723490223
good, then you have no right to bitch about them
Anonymous No.723490464
>>723490329
It's more that they *shouldn't* be, or it defeats the entire purpose of the setup. But I'm sure there are examples that'd prove us both wrong
Anonymous No.723490481 >>723490803
>>723490010
tolkien elves are coomer bait
they are described as being white and very beautiful
they are immortal and never become ugly hags
they have much better healing than humans so they will never have loose vaginas
there are multiple human male x elf female relationships

luthien was so hot even melkor got a boner
Anonymous No.723490482
>>723490102
he can’t keep getting away with it!
Anonymous No.723490537 >>723490910
>>723490353
It's not about reading real world mythology, any hack can do that, it's about having a understanding of it without being genuinly cynical about the subject matter.
Anonymous No.723490549 >>723490726
>>723487780
It's not "isekai" as a narrative device that's bad, it's the modern genre known as isekai that's pure shit.
Alice in the wonderland is an isekai. Digimon is an isekai.
Etc.
Anonymous No.723490561 >>723490791
you wanted it back? well you got it back now
what are you gonna do
Anonymous No.723490592
>>723490428
Don't they usually engage in the slave trade and buy themselves a waifu (in a manner that is invariably framed as a rescue)?
Anonymous No.723490594
>>723490459
I'll do whatever I want, faggot.
Anonymous No.723490631
>>723483120
And what games are incels inventing now, incel?
Anonymous No.723490649
>>723490428
It sucks because the opposite issue, actually. There is zero conflict, be it culturally or literally. The main character is so accepting of everything and never puts up any kind of struggle. Nor is any kind of struggle required of him.

Like, the first thing that would happen to a actual person if they ended up in ancient Rome is that they would be enslaved and would have to learn how to speak the language while doing grueling physical work. That's a premise of a fucking story. Them joining a fucking adventuring guild that functions like a modern Japanese company is not.
Anonymous No.723490679
>>723489141
He's LITERALLY a CHILD ( 33 )
Anonymous No.723490712
Jews, women, minorities, the west has fallen. Is that what you wanted to hear?
Anonymous No.723490726 >>723490789
>>723490549
When people say Isekai they typically mean "Light Novel Isekai". Obviously there are good works about people getting trapped in different worlds.
Anonymous No.723490730 >>723490936
>>723490174
Dragonussy will never be real.
Anonymous No.723490751 >>723491012 >>723491270
>>723489845
Modern fantasy's problem is twofold.
Firstly, the good authors either stopped writing or were barred from entering in the first place. I think a grand total of one mid lister fantasy author I picked up in the early 2010s is still writing regularly.
Secondly, even the technically capable authors that remain have absolutely no life experience or cultural heritage to draw from. I don't expect authors to try fighting in wars like Tolkien or Jordan, but the least they could do is channel a tenth of someone like Howard's autism for the subject material and draw inspiration from it.
Anonymous No.723490752
>>723478089
zoomers are the target audience.
try not having such shit taste.
Anonymous No.723490764
>>723480508
Kek
>>723476509 (OP)
Brown people?
Anonymous No.723490770
>>723481914
would regardless
Anonymous No.723490789
>>723490726
I know. Just thought I'd make the distinction because people in these discussions sometimes seem to conflate the two.
Anonymous No.723490791 >>723490893 >>723490939
>>723490561
Isn't that Age of Sigmar, though? That's some sort of weird transdimensional post-apocalypse with fantasy space marines.
Anonymous No.723490803
>>723490481
>they are described as being white and very beautiful
That's because the word itself means that when you look into the etymology, you stupid shithead. Fail arguments. You are trying to turn the argumetn around just for the sake of it because you are so petty. There is nothing you can do about the fact that Mongoloid people do not know nothing about Western mythology and they inadvertently bastardize it. They can't create good elves if their life depended on it. They just see fetish in them. It's no surprise they always make them blonde and female too.
Anonymous No.723490830 >>723490936 >>723491079
>>723483225
>>723483454
>Drag-On Dragoon mentioned
Nice. Caim bonding with Angel is such a a unfettered, honest take of a madman bonding with a beast over "justified" slaughter of Empire rats.
Anonymous No.723490842
Anonymous No.723490893 >>723491153
>>723490791
>That's some sort of weird transdimensional post-apocalypse with fantasy space marines.
It's just Norse mythology, frankly.
Anonymous No.723490903
>>723476509 (OP)
It was written by men. Have you seen modern fantasy/scifi publishing lately? It's insane how much it's changed.
Anonymous No.723490910 >>723491132
>>723490537
That's exactly what I'm saying when I say Japanese are Mongoloids. They are an alien race that can't understand it.
Anonymous No.723490920
>>723482428
Same. That was kind of hot! Also loving the perspective too.
Anonymous No.723490936
>>723490730
I'll make it real.

>>723489815
Fair.
Might be the easiest one to work with too.

>>723490830
>aim bonding with Angel is such a a unfettered, honest take of a madman bonding with a beast over "justified" slaughter of Empire rats.
That they genuinely come to care for each other to the point of sacrifice and shedding tears is beautiful to see.
Anonymous No.723490939
>>723490791
same universe but highlighting stuff outside of the sigmarines
Anonymous No.723490954 >>723491257
>>723490428
I'd argue the opposite for the most part. Outside a bit of initial angst, most of them just shrug and roll with it, making the whole isekai angle completely worthless and only there because of the author being a lazy asshole.
Though the exceptions being almost exactly what you describe are insufferable too.
Anonymous No.723490997 >>723499405 >>723499903 >>723504503 >>723505579
>>723481737
>Tolkien the most important writer in history (after Rowling that is).
It took the British empire millions of men and several centuries to subjugate half the world.
It took Tolkien and Rowling just a dozen books to thoroughly conquer the minds of every teenager on the planet for four generations and counting. Britain won a complete cultural victory - that's why there's that constant push for inclusion, because every kid wants to be a medieval knight or wizard.
Anonymous No.723491012
>>723490751
>but the least they could do is channel a tenth of someone like Howard's autism for the subject material and draw inspiration from it.
Issue is most myth nerds are either insane right wingers or people like me who view all spiritualism purely in sociological terms. Best you can hope for is somebody like Jk Rowling who just doesn't give a fuck about magic or mythology period outside of being a plot device.
Anonymous No.723491079 >>723491515
>>723490830
>Caim is so psychotically bloodthirsty that even Angelus, who was captured and tortured by Imperial soldiers and explicitly seeks revenge on them, will go "dude, chill a minute"
They have a fun dynamic.
Anonymous No.723491132 >>723491369
>>723490910
The funny thing is that Japanese people have a much healthier relationship with their own mythology and even their history to a certain extent. There is a distance to it that allows people to be creative but also a familiarity with it that allows people to quickly understand core concepts and, more important, their cultural and historical significance.
Anonymous No.723491153 >>723491505 >>723491735
>>723490893
How do you mean?
Anonymous No.723491158
>>723481752
What the hell is this? It legit made my stomach turn a little
Anonymous No.723491257 >>723492551
>>723490954
>Though the exceptions being almost exactly what you describe are insufferable too.
Opposite is mostly insufferable if they just bulldoze through any problem. I like the idea of a story of somebody having to balance their own strongly held moral believes with the reality of the world they find themselves in. But that requires the main character to actually struggle and have to make compromises or suffer genuine consequences to their wellbeing.
Anonymous No.723491270 >>723491841
>>723490751
>or were barred from entering in the first place.
today anyone can self publish online and make plenty of money while skipping the middleman
Anonymous No.723491297 >>723491463
>>723490052
dragons can innately shapeshift. this means that 3 out of 6 kids are unruly BRATS memeing for the camera
Anonymous No.723491318
>>723476509 (OP)
you think that male dragon likes human dick
Anonymous No.723491353
>>723486550
Frankly, I'm surprised we got Drakan 2.
Anonymous No.723491369 >>723491508 >>723491885
>>723491132
I don't have anything against that. It's just that one fag who brought up Isekai being the reason why fantasy is somehow ruined. I just don't get it how some Japanese genre ruins Western anything.
Anonymous No.723491370 >>723491495
>>723478089
Did *I* do that...? Sorry, my bad.
Anonymous No.723491463 >>723491894 >>723492187
>>723491297
You mean in that setting (whatever it is) or in general.
Because in, say, the forgotten realms, only some can.
Or at least that was the case no idea how things work in the current version.
Anonymous No.723491495
>>723491370
But anon, Family Matters aired in 1989 to 1998.
Anonymous No.723491505 >>723491810
>>723491153
not that anon but AoS runs off the idea that there are several realms. not unsimilar to norse myth.
drawing from norse myth has always been a stable of fantasy, but i'm not sure if i see much influence from other mythologies in AoS.
in AoS the realms are based off the winds of magic from fantasy
Anonymous No.723491508 >>723491885
>>723491369
isekai by itself is fine, unfortunately a it bled off into other areas which I think is a shame.
Anonymous No.723491515 >>723491658
>>723491079
>dude chill a minute
>meanwhile Angelus is perfectly fine with burning Empire ships filled with captured, innocent elf children
>immediately gives Caim the okay to cut down child soldiers before they confirmed them to be daemons
Angelus is into risk assessment, not a moralizing influence. It's quite a bold choice.
Anonymous No.723491521 >>723495162
>>723478089
the millenial seething is funny to me
our generation is completely fucking retarded and started all this non-sense blue hair buzz word shit
Anonymous No.723491658 >>723492059
>>723491515
She's like a biblically accurate angel from the old testament or something.
Her morals are a tad different from ours.
Anonymous No.723491735
>>723491153
>Realms similar to Norse mythology.
>Sigmar is effectively Odin.
>Stormcast are similar to the souls picked up for Ragnarok.
>Cyclical death and life of the setting being similar to the Norse understanding of the world.

I have my issues with Age of Sigmar, but I at least admire it for trying to be genuinly mythological in it's setting. Though I still prefer the very pseudo historical approach of Old Warhammer fantasy, if only from a model perspective, I don't think what AoS is going for is entirely without merit.
Anonymous No.723491810 >>723492484
>>723491505
>but i'm not sure if i see much influence from other mythologies in AoS.
There mostly isn't. You can see some mild influence in some of the specific factions if you look really closely. Though you also got stuff like the elves being Avatar the Last Airbender inspired and Steampunk dwarves.
Anonymous No.723491841
>>723491270
despite being flooded with shit litrpgs, I've been pleasantly surprised by some self published books. Most could do with an editor, but I'm happy to overlook that if the author is actually trying.
I still remember old /tg/ threads about all the terrible vanity projects and chuck tingle style shitpost books that self publishing used to be comprised of.
Anonymous No.723491885
>>723491369
Basically what this anon said: >>723491508
Anonymous No.723491894 >>723491968 >>723492003 >>723492187 >>723497824
>>723491463
Shapeshifting is a power used primarily by chromatic dragons, though chromatics can potentially develop it (one of the main villains in a 5e module is a shapeshifted blue), but few have interest in doing so. Crystalline dragons can also use it, but they're never used for anything besides padding Monster Manuals, so it doesn't come up.
Anonymous No.723491968 >>723492073
>>723491894
*metallic dragons, fuck.
Anonymous No.723491971 >>723492052 >>723492151 >>723492567 >>723497384
>>723476509 (OP)
Nothing has really happened to traditional fantasy.

The problem with traditional fantasy is that the positions for people who would be making traditional fantasy products are being staffed by people who have nothing but contempt for fantasy as a genre, and their primary audience are people who have nothing but contempt for fantasy as a genre.

Consider the average defense of the bullshit they put in modern fantasy. It usually goes something like "You can accept wizards and dragons, but you can't accept this?!" Think about that for a moment. Their knee-jerk reaction to criticism is to say "why do you even care that much about this bullshit fairytale garbage anyway?" They don't actually like fantasy at all, and they don't hide it. What's more, this response actually points to the solution to the whole problem. You can put basically anything into fantasy that you want, provided you have a legitimate worldbuilding explanation for why its there. They don't do this, partially because they don't care because they don't like fantasy.
Anonymous No.723492003 >>723492045 >>723492073 >>723492187
>>723491894
Wow. So they inverted it?
Back in the day, only some metallic dragons got the natural ability to shapeshift, with others having to use a Polymorpf spell or acquire it via a feat.
Anonymous No.723492024
>>723480919
>uhm acshually the stuff you loved was gay
Neck yourself faggot.
Anonymous No.723492045 >>723492073
>>723492003
No, it's still metallics, that was a typo.
Anonymous No.723492052 >>723493438
>>723491971
you can just say you don't like black people instead of typing all this out
Anonymous No.723492059
>>723491658
>living proof that the gods or "god" of the world is a cruel, callous being
>dunks on a high priest several times for believing the opposite
>tells him eloquently to fuck off whenever he tries to morally nag anyone
Angelus is so radical.
Anonymous No.723492073
>>723491968
>>723492003
>>723492045
Oh, okay. Then same old same old.
Anonymous No.723492151
>>723491971
Yep. Baldur's Gate 3 is about as good as it will get from here on out. With mods you can make it close enough to the old ideals of fantasy.
Anonymous No.723492187
>>723491463
>>723491894
Silver dragons are the most infamous human diddlers in the setting
>>723492003
free sorcerer levels are my best guess. dragons live off free cosmic funds from daddy bahamut and mommy tiamat's infinite college money account.
Anonymous No.723492484 >>723492665
>>723491810
Or whatever the fuck is happening with lizardmen.
Anonymous No.723492551 >>723492750 >>723498716
>>723491257
>strong moral beliefs
I think a based retard that simply goes around murdering despots, slavers, and corrupt religious figures on the flimsiest of justifications would be a good "return to form" by essentially channeling "good triumphing over evil" while waving off "muh peace through pacifism" fags. Make him seem like a monster, a madman, a force of nature rather than some moral high ground peacemaker.
Anonymous No.723492567 >>723492784 >>723492906 >>723492958 >>723493386 >>723493438 >>723493486 >>723499348
>>723491971
If you think traditional fantasy is good you have contempt for fantasy as a genre.

>We can do anything we want! Come up with any world you want! Any concept, idea, or dream can become a reality.
>No, I want elves, Dwarves, and humans in a vaguely medieval inspired setting.
Anonymous No.723492595 >>723504886
>>723489641
top is done by larry elmore, freelancer who became one of the OGs of 80's fantasy art, the first illustrator of D&D, influenced by other greats before him such as Frazetta and N.C. Wyeth, who had their own backgrounds and unique influences, picture is a tableau from another world, characters look believable, outfits look fantastical but still plausible, detailed but not overdone, layered with lots of cool shit to notice. look at that crusader in the back pointing at that ogre thing, intimidating him with just his presence. even yakub is there. it's even got a frame.

bottom is done by probably 15 faggots collaborating across discord to pool ideas and mood boards while one or two go 'fuck it lets just copy world of warcraft', ugly, bloated and cramped at the same time, buffoonish halloween costume armor and weapons, looks like a clusterfuck, can't tell who is fighting who, can't tell where anyone is looking, aimless action poses instead of story, background is a smeared mess, horrendous slop. look at that disgusting shit. looks like a video game.
Anonymous No.723492665
>>723492484
Lizardmen are weird because first they tried to push the idea that they were now "Daemons of Order" but nobody liked that. Then they tried both approaches, and people still mostly liked traditional lizardmen (Good paint schemes for starbound though). So eventually they just gave up and went back to "They are aztecs".
Anonymous No.723492750 >>723493157
>>723492551
I feel there must be a Isekai out there with that premise, but I can't think of many.
Anonymous No.723492784
>>723492567
>del ray fantasy is traditional fantasy
Anonymous No.723492798 >>723493048 >>723493197
>>723489798
I think it has a massive subversion issue based on the multiracial / multicultural / multiethnic bent everything is veering toward. yes, traditional fantasy did have a lot of this included within the scope of "demi" humans, but it's absolutely in overdrive now. it's way too obvious and clearly intentional. they've become a vehicle for ideology.
Anonymous No.723492906 >>723493301
>>723492567
you're being obtuse, the basis for fantasy is fine
creating new fantasy is fine
that doesn't change that the modern writer is a self-inserting twat who will ruin both
Anonymous No.723492958 >>723493301
>>723492567
Traditional fantasy should be the jumping off point, a research reference for plot and character archetypes not world building. Renaming Elves and Dwarves without changing them enough is the problem. Also using fantasy races or "species" to be a 1:1 copy of a real world ideology and culture is lazy yet it keeps happening in published works.
Anonymous No.723493037 >>723493151
Anonymous No.723493048 >>723493238
>>723492798
>I think it has a massive subversion issue based on the multiracial / multicultural / multiethnic bent everything is veering toward
I honestly find multiracial but not multiethnic or multicultural to be the best aesthetically. Distinct and clearly culturally identifiable kingdoms and states but the various races living together is perfectly normal.
Anonymous No.723493151 >>723494801
>>723493037
is that kobold the trapseller's wife
Anonymous No.723493157
>>723492750
They exist but it's always ruined by making it about some gay petty revenge shit instead of the based retard simply hunting "evil people" like a bloodhound.
Anonymous No.723493197
>>723492798
I mean, sort of? The whole plot of Warcraft 3 is that there's a threat that eclipses the Alliance/Horde conflict, as demonstrated when Lordaeron is overrun by undead, and the survivors of both factions who escape to Kalimdor ultimately realize (along with the Night Elves) that the Burning Legion has to be stopped, or everyone will die, and thus end up fighting together against it.
Anonymous No.723493238 >>723493480
>>723493048
maybe occasionally in "a" setting or two. in the real world we see it doesn't work so well and many cities are segregated by revealed preference. so, when you see it in all fantasy anywhere and everywhere I think something is amiss and it's likely the authors underlying ideologies (so can't blame them too much).
Anonymous No.723493301
>>723492906
The basis is either D&D, which is mostly pulp trash, or Tolkien, which is so much better than every work afterwards it's not even funny.

>>723492958
>Renaming Elves and Dwarves without changing them enough is the problem
To be sure. Wish more people came up with genuinly creative ideas rather than just giving their elves new names.

>Also using fantasy races or "species" to be a 1:1 copy of a real world ideology and culture is lazy yet it keeps happening in published works.
Also agree there.
Anonymous No.723493386 >>723493581
>>723492567
>>No, I want elves, Dwarves, and humans in a vaguely medieval inspired setting.
Anonymous No.723493435
>>723482227
Man the movie was so fucking bad, not surprising it dropped off the map. The books were kino though even though the MC was a Mary sue
Anonymous No.723493438 >>723493645
>>723492052
You can have as many black people as you want so long as you justify why the black people are there. This is not what modern "color spray" diversity in fantasy does.

>>723492567
Yeah, you can make whatever you want, and you choose to make classic Western fantasy with color spray diversity and modern, real world attitudes with zero explanation in what is otherwise a typical pre-modern setting, along with the style and affectation of community theater.
Anonymous No.723493441 >>723493629 >>723493994
>>723476509 (OP)
the answer is always "muh" woke for you. What really happened is it evolved to modern tastes. Simple as. Like it or not, that's what it is. Not like *you* can't do your own traditional fantasy, or that others don't do it anyway.

But it's not in the vein of "I'm doing it to give the finger to libtards", because your setting will fail if it's made only to spite something. Don't fucking do that.
Anonymous No.723493446
>gentle femdom
Way to miss the fucking point
Anonymous No.723493480 >>723493904 >>723506135
>>723493238
I'm talking mostly about preferences from a purely aesthetic perspective. Storywise you should generally go to with what works for your story and world.

>in the real world we see it doesn't work so well
It works just fine, even in the past places like Amsterdam, Venice, and New york were highly multicultural. Only subhumans have a issue with it. Literally people we could do without even at the best of times. The actual issue is mostly people making the entire economy depended on a constant stream of immigrants. Nobody normal gives a fuck about chinatown or Italian refugees opening up Pizza shops in New York.
Anonymous No.723493486 >>723493550 >>723493579 >>723493732 >>723494012 >>723499015
>>723492567
You weirdos are all the same. You can't be satisfied with an elf or something like that, you need all your games to have a race selection like this:
>Human
>Sharkgirl
>Jumping cactus
>Marionette
>Fire elemental
>Giant intelligent friendly talking spider
Anonymous No.723493550 >>723495765
>>723493486
Is that pathfinder 2e?
That sounds like Pathfinder 2e.
Anonymous No.723493579 >>723493806
>>723493486
Bro I think that's literally the Endless Legend roster.
Anonymous No.723493581 >>723496013
>>723493386
>evil elves, evil dwarves, and evil humans exist
>all more attractive and sexy looking compared to the "good guys"
Anonymous No.723493629 >>723494542 >>723494592 >>723495002
>>723493441
Replace modern tastes with modern consumers.
Anonymous No.723493645 >>723494089 >>723494753 >>723494842
>>723493438
>real world attitudes with zero explanation in what is otherwise a typical pre-modern setting
That has always been the case since most hack pulp fantasy writers don't bother actually researching how people viewed the world during the actual middle ages or even the way society was organized back then. Let alone have the creativity to imagine what kind of a role the existence of magic or monsters would play into those kind of historical arrangements.
Anonymous No.723493732
>>723493486
That sounds pretty dope though.
Anonymous No.723493797 >>723497635
>>723489641
>no helmets
vs
>no helmets

It's both shit.
Anonymous No.723493806
>>723493579
From space!
Anonymous No.723493904 >>723494101 >>723494416 >>723497967
>>723493480
>Only subhumans have a issue with it.
Retard, it's the subhumans outnumbering intelligent individuals and needing to be controlled that makes cultures in fantasy settings interesting. If everyone is so "civilized" than it's FUCKING BORING.
Anonymous No.723493994
>>723493441
>modern tastes
>because your setting will fail if it's made only to spite something.
all those things that are made for what you call "modern tastes", are made purely out of spite
no one buys things because they like ugly gay niggers, but they may buy it despite it if they already like the franchise
this is why new IPs made for "modern audiences" usually flop, but you may see some successes like BG3 from 30 year old franchises
Anonymous No.723494012 >>723494274
>>723493486
If I can be frank, I would honestly prefer it if the playable races were:
>Human.
And nothing else.

Magic and monsters are cool when they are weird and otherworldly. They are something you should interact with, but be distant from. Fairies, at least the old school mythological kind, are cool because they are genuinly inhuman and off-putting. They might look human, sometimes even share a lot of the same emotions as humans, but they are very much not. Same is true for youkai, demons, daemons, angels, jotun, gods, etc.
Anonymous No.723494045 >>723494724
>>723483313
I read them while I was quite young (born '96 and I think I read the last couple around their release) but I remember the last book being an absolute slog to get through and I only got through it because the sunk cost from reading the first three made me feel obligated to finish the damn thing. I do remember something about some magic bullshit that made Eragon into a half-elf or whatever and that he was an absolute high and mighty dickhead afterwards, and I think the grumpy butcher from his home town gets horrendously tortured for no reason at some point?
Anonymous No.723494089 >>723494362
>>723493645
>ancient cultures in irl were right, evil monsters and spirits and gods do exist
>every leader and ruling class noble is as civilized as a Renaissance Era philosopher
It's funny how absurd it gets.
Anonymous No.723494101 >>723494424
>>723493904
>Retard, it's the subhumans outnumbering intelligent individuals and needing to be controlled that makes cultures in fantasy settings interesting.
I prefer to just do a story like SMT if I want to cover those themes.
Anonymous No.723494173
>>723476509 (OP)
tfw no dragon companion to carry my things for me and also banter with
Anonymous No.723494274 >>723494472 >>723495990
>>723494012
that's why "traditional fantasy" was human and a smattering of "demi" humans. Gygax explicitly focused DnD around it be human centric for the exactly reason that's our only real frame of reference and if you extend it out you're likely to just anthropomorphize everything.
Anonymous No.723494330 >>723494808 >>723495425
>>723483306
I don't care what anyone says, running into high tech machinery and robots with laser guns deep into a medieval fantasy game will always be kino
Anonymous No.723494362
>>723494089
It's just lazy. Tolkien got away with it because of the way he treated magic was largely mythological in nature. But everybody copying him doesn't get the point.
Anonymous No.723494416 >>723496256 >>723497967
>>723493904
Any idea what this gif is?
Anonymous No.723494424 >>723494550 >>723495438 >>723495618
>>723494101
>SMT
>needing entire pantheons of gods representing man-made concepts and ideologies to have any conflicts
>oh and technology puts humans on even playing field with daemons and angels
>collect angels and daemons like pokemon
>they friendly banter with you like it's a sitcom instead of despising you for using them as tools of war
Absolutely braindead, softcore emotional porn.
Anonymous No.723494472 >>723494787
>>723494274
I get that, but I honestly feel it removes a lot of what made most of the demihumans interesting. Prefer to just have humans to keep the setting feeling as grounded as possible to make the fantastical elements stand out more.
Anonymous No.723494534 >>723494891 >>723495987
>>723476509 (OP)
>traditional fantasy
Got you covered bro, say no more!
Anonymous No.723494542
>>723493629
>pic related
Even though I'm not white. I can feel this white guy pain here.
Anonymous No.723494550 >>723494972
>>723494424
I like it because I get to murder evangelical Christians and edgy nazi pagans and then hear them bitch about how unfair it is.
Anonymous No.723494592
>>723493629
yt people are overwhelmingly liberal. theres a reason most trannies are yt
Anonymous No.723494724
>>723494045
That's correct, Eragon got turned into an elf by some ritual to heal an injury he received killing Durza. Afterwards, he jumped on the vegetarian-atheist bandwagon the elves were running, and didn't jump off of it until the last book when the author realized that no one actually liked the elves in the series. The butcher ends up betraying the rest of Eragon's hometown to Imperial agents, gets blinded and nearly eaten, and (somehow) ends up running into Eragon, who figures out what happened and curses him to stay away from the daughter he sold out the town to protect.
Anonymous No.723494753 >>723495437
>>723493645
Sure, but there's a difference between the lazy ignorance of yesteryear and not giving a fuck.
Anonymous No.723494787 >>723495437
>>723494472
yep the demis were completely consumed and they're just humans with a quirk now instead of human adjacent aliens.
Anonymous No.723494801
>>723493151
No, he's too autistic for romance and only cares about his traps. Her husband's a human (me)
Anonymous No.723494808 >>723495425
>>723494330
It's pretty dope, I don't know why some people are so down on it.
Anonymous No.723494818
>>723488557
I liked the prequel book where one of the catalysts of him becoming a super powered mage is having his crush get fucked by his older, more handsome and stronger brother.
Anonymous No.723494842 >>723495437 >>723495593
>>723493645
Stormlight series gave people magical powers and how people in real life would actually react to them.
Its got Superman wouldnt stop crime he would generate infinite energy on a hamsters cage as that be more utilitarian vibes. Series just got worse worse though realistic.
Anonymous No.723494891 >>723494992
>>723494534
Isn't that just isekai nonsense?
Anonymous No.723494972 >>723495249
>>723494550
>my power fantasy is shitting on real world religions and ideologies with BASED LOGIC AND TECHNOLOGY
Good for you, we're talking about fantasy setting interesting, not what gets your psychological rocks off.
Anonymous No.723494992
>>723494891
it is played pretty straight, I can't think of much of his modern aspects playing much role
Anonymous No.723495002
>>723493629
Wasn't that made by some dipshit Brit who moved to Japan, changed his name to something Japanese, and realized too late that there aren't a lot of white people in Japan?
Anonymous No.723495103
>>723481752
the fucking chest scars lmao
Anonymous No.723495162 >>723498380
>>723491521
It’s been so cool to get browbeaten by both boomers and zoomers over shit that isn’t my fault. Wait, it’s actually been super fucking gay and retarded.
Anonymous No.723495249 >>723495827
>>723494972
Like I said, if the point is just "A lot of people are dumb subhumans" I prefer teh SMT approach of just killing them all in a modern urban setting. If you are going to be blatant wish fullfiment exploitation, go all the way.

Interesting fantasy to me is more about actual sociological concepts or philosophical ideas. Failing that, at least be aesthetically pleasing.
Anonymous No.723495309 >>723495965
>no games with female dragons you can romance
>no games with female goblins you can romance
Are devs just dumb?
Anonymous No.723495315
What happened is: look at all the people ITT who looked at the OP pic and immediately went to "dragon sex"
Anonymous No.723495317 >>723495512
>>723481752
It’s so bad it comes around to being hilarious, huh. You just know the person who drew this is one missed prescription away from heroing too.
Anonymous No.723495425 >>723497664
>>723494330
>>723494808
I too miss the 80's. The Laser canons in the Original Fire Emblem made the game for me. FF1's mech, FF2 hovercraft, BoF3 futuristic city, tactics robot.
Anonymous No.723495437 >>723500691
>>723494842
Never read Stormlight.

Honestly wish somebody would do a far more mature and sociological take on something like the X-Men. But that's more sci fi than fantasy, I guess.

>>723494753
I guess? I feel the end result is mostly just kind of the same boring.

>>723494787
It's again something Tolkien got right and then nobody else.

Maybe Warhammer but that's just because it's such a over the top exaggeration that getting a elf, a human, and a dwarf in the same room working together is a humongous task.
Anonymous No.723495438 >>723495852 >>723496520
>>723494424
Isn't the central conflict of SMT that gods have their time, yet YHVH is attempting to assert dominance over humanity even as his influence wanes in the modern world, and countless faded divinities try to make their own plays in the resulting chaos? Not to mention, you recruit demons by bartering with them or impressing them with your views - you're not forcing them to fight with you against their will.
Anonymous No.723495512 >>723495887
>>723495317
I think it's the usual trap of big corporations being convinced by a very loud minority on twitter (now bluesky) to think this is a new hip trend from the young people that they need to pander to and promote to make gorillions of dollars. As usual they go completely overboard to the point where most people look at it and think it's ridiculous.
Anonymous No.723495593 >>723497354
>>723494842
stormlight's a great example of why some unrealistic writing conventions are best kept that way.
Yes, real life mental health issues aren't something you can solve with a stiff upper lip and a pep talk, but that doesn't mean I want to read the same character arcs four times in a fucking row.
Anonymous No.723495618
>>723494424
>>they friendly banter with you like it's a sitcom instead of despising you for using them as tools of war
W-What SMT did you play?
Anonymous No.723495765 >>723495937
>>723493550
It wouldn't surprise me, given that Touch Fluffy Tail is apparently canon on Golarion.
Anonymous No.723495827 >>723496228
>>723495249
>A lot of people are dumb subhumans
>urban setting
You want every event depicted in a fantasy setting to be a philosophical and sociological circle jerk session? No grand armies made of loyal subhumans enacting the will of a intelligent leader upon the world? It all boils down "hurr durr but what about the philosophical ramifications of thinking and talking?" Do you not realize discussion with real people will always trump viewing two "fictional representations of ideologies" duke it out with words.
Anonymous No.723495852 >>723496737
>>723495438
It depends VERY heavily on the game. On average though God's control of the world is very strong. Not much implies he's worried about his influence fading in SMT 1 or 2, for instance. Meanwhile in Strange Journey he's largely gone, while in Devil Survivor he's pretty okay with his influence going away as long as humanity can prove their worth.
Anonymous No.723495887
>>723495512
Not even hyper queer sodomites or the ugliest, fattest of browns actually like shit like this unless they are genuinely mentally ill or social outcast chronically online losers of the highest degree.
Anonymous No.723495937
>>723495765
It's been canon since pf1 golarion yeah.
Maybe even 3.5e golarion.
Anonymous No.723495953 >>723496383 >>723496739
Proper dragons too hard to animate.
Anonymous No.723495965 >>723496019 >>723496590
>>723495309
what about unicorns what’s with this genre and disappointing endings
Anonymous No.723495987 >>723496259
>>723494534
D-do I fuck the boy too?
Anonymous No.723495990 >>723496350
>>723494274
What if you flip it around?
Anonymous No.723496013 >>723496162
>>723493581
Bruv, you do not want your dick anywhere remotely close to the Druchii. They might not have birthed Slaanesh, but they're still pretty horrific.
Anonymous No.723496019
>>723495965
How does the ending disapoint in that one?
Anonymous No.723496093
>>723476509 (OP)
It got like 3 decades of shine (80s-late 00s) so the general public eventually got tired of it.
In comparison Dark Fantasy barely has a decade being the main fantasy setting in most videogames of the genre.
Like, there's only so much you can do with traditional fantasy in a game and some of them are still made with the setting in mind.
Anonymous No.723496162
>>723496013
I'm saying how silly it is to have "evil factions" to be traditionally attractive when their version of beauty should be fundamentally different from the "good guy" factions.
Anonymous No.723496198
>>723476509 (OP)
>you will never go on comfy adventures with your childhood dragonfu as you solve simple problems in the villages the king/military won't bother dealing with, cook delicious meals, pick up random temporary members and share stories and rumors by the campfire
Anonymous No.723496228 >>723497987 >>723498412
>>723495827
It's not about the philosophical and sociological implications of thinking. It's about actually dealing with the implications of the fantastical elements.

Humans believing in gods and demons that are fake and don't exist is more interesting to me than humans believing in gods and demons that are real. If you are going to include monsters and magic, you need to actually think about WHAT they are and/or represent for them to be interesting. Failing that, at least be aesthetically satisfying. I love Fire Emblem, for instance, and that is largely just aesthetics.
Anonymous No.723496249
>>723489487
there is The I of the Dragon, but i havn't played that since i was a kid, so i really can't vouch if its good or not, but you do play as a dragon
Anonymous No.723496256 >>723497492 >>723497967
>>723494416
I'm 10-to-1 it's a meme from one of Forsen's streams, meaning it's probably from some extremely low-budget Ugandan movie.
Anonymous No.723496259 >>723496559 >>723497770
>>723495987
Anonymous No.723496350
>>723495990
Isn't one of the most successful civilizations on post-RIFTS Earth a human-supremacist empire dedicated to killing the DBs and taking back the United States, which actually managed to repel an honest-to-God demonic invasion?
Anonymous No.723496383 >>723496547
>>723495953
Sauce me up
Anonymous No.723496520 >>723496991 >>723497257
>>723495438
Having gods "wane due to lack of belief" is retarded. You're basically turning gods and pantheons into psychic leeches that need to "trick" humans into believing in them to have power. It's the other way around. Gods are the ultimate "might makes right" so the only way to escape the wrath of malicious intent of one god is to find favor in another. Humans choose gods to protect them, to aid them with basic needs, not simply enforce laws and values.
Anonymous No.723496547 >>723496697 >>723496774
>>723496383
Etheross.
Anonymous No.723496559
>>723496259
So his little sister got railed by the 400 year old spear dude, and the other sister fucked his son?
Anonymous No.723496590
>>723495965
When the last eagle flies over the last crumbling mountain
And the last lion roars at the last dusty fountain
In the shadow of the forest though she may be old and worn
They will stare unbelieving at the last unicorn
Anonymous No.723496648
i have an instinctual attraction to powerful creatures
Anonymous No.723496697 >>723496752
>>723496547
Etheross has such great dragon stuff.
I specially love the one with the black wyvern.
Anonymous No.723496720
>>723476509 (OP)
Is that Walsh dragon?
Anonymous No.723496737
>>723495852
In SMT2, he can't even get his four archangels to obey him, resulting in the creation of Aleph and the false YHVH, though.
Anonymous No.723496739 >>723496828
>>723495953
I'm confused, is F.F. an artist in and of themselves or just a pseudonym for I guess in this case Eth but others as well
Anonymous No.723496752
>>723496697
Gr8 ryona too.
Anonymous No.723496774 >>723496934 >>723497029
>>723496547
That's precisely what is the problem. Reptilians are not mammal-adjacent dogs. Fuck off with that garbage.
Anonymous No.723496828 >>723497207
>>723496739
Etheross is artist. Feral Frenzy is a group of western artists that publish feral stuff.
Anonymous No.723496842 >>723496894
>>723488848
>The poor drugged leopard man.
how do you know he was drugged? I tried to find some sources but couldn't find anything
Anonymous No.723496894 >>723498610
>>723496842
Because I've seen scenes from the movie.
The thing was drugged over half the time and they still managed to get some people hurt during production.
Anonymous No.723496934 >>723497096
>>723496774
Ok, boomer.
Anonymous No.723496974 >>723497116 >>723497462 >>723497812 >>723498046
>what if we took dragons, the height of evil, and made them actually hecking good and valid
FUCKING REDDITOR SHITHEADS
Anonymous No.723496991 >>723498412
>>723496520
I went with the opposite in my setting:
Believing as a god believes and acting as they would act gives you power by stealing it from the god, making them less powerful, so power wanes with belief. Some gods are fine with this, mortals only get their power by working towards the ends the god would prefer anyway, so they promote worship of themselves. Some gods aren't okay with that and work to make themselves less known, or just deceive mortals about their nature and goals so they are worshipped improperly and the mortals receive no benefit.
Mortals are unaware that this is how things work, and think that the gods are granting or not granting them power by choice. More or less all gods like the status quo of mortals not knowing how things really work, else worship could be weaponized against them.
Anonymous No.723497029 >>723497591
Whatever happened to the Angel With Scaly Wings sequel anyway?

>>723496774
I like Dragons as their own thing with a mix of reptilian and mammal characteristics, even if it looks more reptile than not.
Anonymous No.723497079 >>723498748
>>723481752
its funny because they think it is cool
i am so glad i am old now and beyond this
Anonymous No.723497096 >>723497419
>>723496934
So you are arrogant on top of the subversive element. Great. And you wonder why people say fantasy is ruined.

You are the other side of the coin with trannies.
Anonymous No.723497116
>>723496974
>marrying and impregnating the dragon villainess
Unfathomably based taste
Anonymous No.723497123 >>723497467 >>723501931
Anonymous No.723497207
>>723496828
Thanks.
Anonymous No.723497257 >>723498412
>>723496520
>Having gods "wane due to lack of belief" is retarded.
It's not, but it basically removes all of the actual power they have. It's a more realistic way to include magic but still have actual sociology.
Anonymous No.723497354
>>723495593
Trvth
Anonymous No.723497384
>>723491971
me on the right
Anonymous No.723497419 >>723497660
>>723497096
What's this unc yapping about?
Anonymous No.723497427
>>723483313
What was the color of the dragon that fucked Saphira?
Asking for a friend.
Anonymous No.723497462
>>723496974
Are you implying Micheal shouldn't have rape corrected Satan?
Anonymous No.723497467 >>723497549
>>723497123
This looks hilariously stupid
You animal fuckers are so weird
Anonymous No.723497492 >>723497967
>>723496256
Thanks, Uganda films was my bet. Im sure its trash but maybe its a Nietzchien gem!
Anonymous No.723497549
>>723497467
Go to the anal threads in vertical infinity chan /zoo/ for some real degeneracy.
Anonymous No.723497591 >>723497757
>>723497029
They are fine being reptilian with high IQ. That creates for an alien mind fitting for fantasy. It's just low IQ degenerates can't help but to infest the medium with forced mammal characteristics because the concept of reptilian goes over their tiny heads. They need that mammalian to it because they don't actually like reptilians.
Anonymous No.723497635
>>723493797
Basically all fighters in the original have helmets.
Anonymous No.723497660
>>723497419
Perfect argument for why gatekeeping is important. The ugly degenerates will come otherwise.
Anonymous No.723497664 >>723499050
>>723495425
It really is strange how unpopular science fantasy is as a video game setting. I wish Gamma World was even half as popular as D&D.
Anonymous No.723497757 >>723497931
>>723497591
Nah. Them just being purely reptilian makes them too mundane, like it could be just another animal.
Them being something else, almost chimeric but not really, that's the shit.
The medieval artists and the antiquity chinks knew their shit.
Anonymous No.723497770 >>723497884
>>723496259
I dont understand any of this but I hope Hilda Greyrat wins the Game of Thrones.
Anonymous No.723497812 >>723498028
>>723496974
Anon, good-aligned dragons were introduced in the AD&D 1e Monster Manual back in 1977, and gold dragons were explicitly based on Chinese dragons, which are typically very sagely and chill in myths.
Anonymous No.723497815 >>723499168
>>723481752
Is that a colostomy bag?
Anonymous No.723497824
>>723491894
Bahamut (god of the Metallic Dragons) likes to shapeshift into a old man with 7 canaries following him as well.
Anonymous No.723497884 >>723498056
>>723497770
I've got bad news for you. Aisha Greyrat won.
Anonymous No.723497931
>>723497757
You clearly didn't read my post so I'm not going to invest into yours. Sad. it's further proof how hellbent you are on mammalian. Your freak sexuality requires it.
Anonymous No.723497967
>>723493904
>>723494416
>>723496256
>>723497492
Its Mortal Combat!

https://www.tiktok.com/@amasahblankson/video/7107956355100724486?lang=en
Anonymous No.723497987 >>723498065
>>723496228
Sounds boring as fuck.
You just want the real world because you're too much of a midwit to accept anything that isn't entirely familiar to you.

I bet you have cute-aggression too.
Post side-profile, I wanna see just how sub 90 your slope degree is.
Anonymous No.723498028
>>723497812
Yep.
That's why they retained the whiskers and more serpentine body through the ages, affinity for water (being natural swimmers) etc.
Anonymous No.723498046
>>723496974
>the height of evil
In which stories? The east has them generally being benevolent, if extremely arrogant, while dragons universally being evil incarnate wasn't a thing until church commissioned art became the common basis.
Even the Norse had them as more gluttonous and greedy than calculatingly evil, and that's where most western dragon stories originate from.
Anonymous No.723498056 >>723498226
>>723497884
My girl least give up a good fight? Die with honour?
Anonymous No.723498057 >>723498653
>>723487916
Writing my own webnovel series right now with one of the main characters being a dragon, and I've noticed the same surprisingly often. And if it isn't what you said, the male characters will usually be gay. Sick of friendship and brotherhood erasure.
Anonymous No.723498065
>>723497987
I'm fine with it if it's actual properly done. Again, I like Tolkien.
Anonymous No.723498170 >>723498427
>medieval fantasy setting
>everyone acts like they have highschool education
>people write on parchments, but somehow know what genes are
>it's set in a nonexistent century in which plate armor exists but gunpowder doesn't
Anonymous No.723498226
>>723498056
Teleported without a trace
Anonymous No.723498240
>>723484508
I’m still so fucking mad.
Anonymous No.723498380 >>723499048
>>723495162
Lmfao you type like a typical millennial faggot, you really don't get it at all LOL
Anonymous No.723498412 >>723498489 >>723498593
>>723496228
>>723496991
>>723497257
>um, erm asksully gods need to have realistic sociological reasons to interact with mortals
>every single second of a gods existence relies on things happening in the material world
These aren't even gods at this point. They're ancient pagan daemons running around playing pretend. The concept of a Demiurge is better than this tripe.
Anonymous No.723498427 >>723498883
>>723498170
>10.000 years recorded history
>0 tech progress
Anonymous No.723498452 >>723498665 >>723498716 >>723498764 >>723498936 >>723499104 >>723499680 >>723500032
Give me your most desired power fantasy slop ideas. I don't care if it's isekai, harem, or whatever. What stories do (You) want to get written?
Anonymous No.723498457 >>723498667 >>723499490
>>723487780
>isekai
>classic fantasy
Faraway Paladin was literally the only one to come close to capturing the spirit of traditional fantasy and that's because it ripped off The Hobbit.
Anonymous No.723498489 >>723498667
>>723498412
Aren't all SMT divinities Demiurgic by the nature of the setting?
Anonymous No.723498593
>>723498412
>These aren't even gods at this point.
They are basically the patriots from metal gear solid 2.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C31XYgr8gp0
Which is much more interesting to me than actual gods. Though, again, actual gods CAN work. You just need to approach them from a very mythological perspective.
Anonymous No.723498610 >>723498709
>>723496894
apparently, no one was bitten but there were close calls, also the leopard was raised to have a lot of human interaction from a young age, which might clue us in as to why it acted less like a leopard would usually do. Not saying I don't believe you, I have to watch the movie for myself someday, but let's be honest, compared to the usual awful treatment of animals in movies, that one was definitely on the milder side.
Anonymous No.723498653 >>723498709 >>723499773
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NPojwWIQWeo

>>723498057
the miserable old white male trains a muttess to replace him genre is booming at least
Anonymous No.723498659
>>723487501
He's so fucking slow.
Anonymous No.723498665
>>723498452
A kino adventure where the hero party fucking dies and then the demon lord takes over the world. Then a meteor hits the world killing everything.
Anonymous No.723498667 >>723498862 >>723499394
>>723498457
I should watch Faraway Paladin someday...

>>723498489
4 actually implies the Great Will is not. But then it also makes it clear that YHVH is not the Great Will when that was a bit more vague in the past(I mean, Megami Tensei 2 says it outright but that was VERY early in the lore).
Anonymous No.723498709
>>723498610
>compared to the usual awful treatment of animals in movies, that one was definitely on the milder side.
Absolutely.

>>723498653
I fucking love that album.
Anonymous No.723498716
>>723498452
See >>723492551 but with psychotic elf bitches wanting to join in on all the "justified" assassinations. Maybe toss in a god of entropy that likes the MC for causing chaos every time he kills a "corrupt leader" in his quest for justice (murder)
Anonymous No.723498748 >>723499168 >>723502521
>>723497079
And it's funny because it literally appeals to nobody and they keep losing money and they're always so confused.
The concord devs genuinely not understanding why nobody liked their shit is the funniest thing in the world to me.

I mean, they genuinely cannot understand. They live in positivity bubbles where negativity is violently oppressed and they all sit there nodding along and praising each other. The only people who are negative in their world are literal chuds with nothing to lose from social ostracization so it reaffirms their belief that the only people who don't like them are a minority of a minority.
And because they believe their ideology is the most popular the sheer backlash concord got for its designs did not make any sense to them.
How could EVERYONE hate their designs when racists and negatives are an absolute minority?
And the only answer they could come up with is everyone got tricked by grifters and it turned into the cool thing to hate on their game.
They simply cannot see the world as everyone else does.
They even admit the designs were goofy, but they thought it was funny goofy, and everyone would laugh at their jokes because they laugh at each other's jokes because not laughing at each others jokes makes you a negative hater and most likely some flavour of bigot. We were supposed to laugh because the characters were a bunch of heckin goofy chunguses because the designers themselves are wholesome quirkyrinos.

Four hundred million dollars for some Californians to take their morality-gestapo enforced positivity out of the bubble and watch the entire world tear it apart.
It's goddamn comedy.

How the fuck am I not supposed to laugh at someone drawing a tranny with a colostemy bag and saying it's empowering.
YEAH, SHITBAG PRIDE! NOTHING SAYS POWER LIKE NOT HAVING CONTROL OVER YOUR BOWELS YOU WHITE SPHINCTPREMACIST CHUDS
Anonymous No.723498758
>>723484523
While it’s male dragon female human, there's that one manga I forget the name of where the male human mc gets turned into a dragon near the end and then he and the girl he’s with have kids
Anonymous No.723498764
>>723498452
buddy i'm just here for the dragon sex premise
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723498790
>>723476509 (OP)
>What happened to traditional fantasy?
pic unrelated
Anonymous No.723498858
>>723482227
Because a lot of them only picked up the series because they were in their "dragons are awesome" phase
Anonymous No.723498862 >>723498936
>>723498667
If I recall, the original Megaten stories had the demon apocalypse started by a gay school shooter.
Anonymous No.723498883 >>723499105
>>723498427
You been to Africa? Its 60k years old, at least.
Anonymous No.723498936 >>723498968
>>723498452
Touhou but good.

>>723498862
>Gay
No, he was straight. Even tried to rape a girl, I think. Also the hero.
Anonymous No.723498963
take me back
Anonymous No.723498968
>>723498936
So, a bisexual school shooter?
Anonymous No.723499015
>>723493486
I'd buy it.
Anonymous No.723499048
>>723498380
No, I get it perfectly. I’m literally just some fucking guy and have never done shit to you other than read your terrible posts.
Anonymous No.723499050
>>723497664
Same. A lot of missed chances for some pretty sick shit.
Anonymous No.723499104 >>723499427
>>723498452
I just want more faceless knight dudes helping do good across the land with their jolly compatriots. Not just twink anime boys sitting in one area building a harem and infrastructure, which a fuckton of mangas and games seem to love them doing for some reason. β€œAh yes I’ve been teleported to a whole new world! Guess I’ll just sit here and build a fucking town and never explore this magical land!”
Anonymous No.723499105
>>723498883
Of recorded history is the distinction.
Africans don't keep records.
>oral history!
Is just fucking chinese-whispers mixed with an oral book report.
Anonymous No.723499168 >>723499407 >>723500382
>>723497815
>>723498748
Nah but leave colostomy bag people out of this. I'm a doctor and most of the patients in my ward got a bag like that and it's so sad to see. Let them dream.
Everything else is funny and self-inflicted though jej
Anonymous No.723499187
>>723489141
SICK FUCK
Anonymous No.723499193 >>723499265 >>723499294 >>723499372 >>723499594 >>723499763
>You will never be a dragon rider

https://i.postimg.cc/QxQD1zDr/Feral-species-wingless-dragon-female-orange-scales-spotted-looking-at-v-s-3725266664.png
Anonymous No.723499265 >>723499383 >>723499456
>>723499193
>im really straight I need TWO paits of tits IM STRAIGHT IM STRAIGHT
Anonymous No.723499294 >>723499510
>>723499193
Another braindead dog-"dragon"
Anonymous No.723499334
>>723479741
>Post-modernism.
This and /thread
Post-modernism is the blight of thought, poison of the culture and the soul
Anonymous No.723499348 >>723499512
>>723492567
I want elves, dwarves, and humans in a heavily medieval inspired setting, actually.
Anonymous No.723499372
>>723499193
Drop the tits.
Anonymous No.723499383
>>723499265
>TWO
Three mate, gotta get all the dragon milk

https://i.postimg.cc/BnJ0gCZP/Feral-species-wingless-dragon-female-orange-scales-spotted-looking-at-v-s-3848560540.png
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723499394
>>723498667
YHVH was never the Great Will
The Great Will (of the Universe) uses YHVH, among others, as Avatars. there is even a game in which one guy becomes the YHVH head.
Strange Journey even has The Will of The Earth. pic related as explained by the devs
Anonymous No.723499405 >>723501310
>>723490997
That's cool and all, but it doesn't seem to be feeling the void of failing to produce actual serious literature on the same level as the one written by French or Russians, despite investing so much national effort into that.
The only work that belongs to the topmost level that I can think of is 1984, and it happens to be a caricature of the whole British society by half-French author for which he was killed.
Anonymous No.723499407 >>723499604
>>723499168
why would you dream of going to a fantasy world and having a colostomy bag instead of being healthy, numbnuts
Anonymous No.723499427 >>723499864
>>723499104
I'd argue that there's a point where a knight can settle down, but yeah, let that happen after a long and successful career of heroism.
Anonymous No.723499456
>>723499265
Only mammals have mammaries. They are purposefully related words so we can distinguish mammals from reptilians for example.
Anonymous No.723499490 >>723499562
>>723498457
For my tastes, Faraway Paladin tries to raise the stakes too quickly, then resolves it with power that feels unearned. Oh shoot, we're two volumes in, time to fight god and win with an asspull. And then it's even worse with the dragon.
Anonymous No.723499510
>>723499294
Exactly domestication has made her a pale imitation of her draconic kin. like a cow compared to an auroch
Anonymous No.723499512 >>723499694 >>723500109 >>723501336
>>723499348
Wouldn't that be a renaissance-inspired setting if people are running around in steel plate?
Anonymous No.723499562
>>723499490
NTA but yeah. It doesn't do a great job with the pacing of its escalation, but even then, it's so good.
Anonymous No.723499594 >>723499756
>>723499193
Anything scaly shouldn't have tits. Small, featureless mounds at most.
Anonymous No.723499604 >>723499810 >>723499846
>>723499407
Because they want to self-insert an aspect of themselves into said fantasy world I suppose
Anonymous No.723499680 >>723500268 >>723500618 >>723501429
>>723498452
In my early autistic fantasy days I always wanted to combine japanese and western fantasy together as one. I thought it'd be cool to see those silly anime slice of life moments get interrupted by an unexpected chaos warband or greenskin raid. There's just a distinct lack of "bad guy" races and factions in japanese fantasy whereas western fantasy is full of them.
Anonymous No.723499694 >>723499898
>>723499512
Most "medieval" fantasy is more aesthetically close to renaissance times than not, yeah.
Anonymous No.723499756 >>723500215
>>723499594
See that's where you are wrong. They can have tits by the biological justification of me wanting them to
Anonymous No.723499763
>>723499193
>tits
>anthroesque body proportions
>no cloaca
C-
see me after class
Anonymous No.723499773
>>723498653
>This is my human. There are many like him, but this one is mine.
Anonymous No.723499810 >>723500157
>>723499604
most disabled people don't actually want to be disabled
the ones that do are usually ones with intentionally self inflicted disabilities
Anonymous No.723499846 >>723500157
>>723499604
Yeah but why don't they self-insert their positive aspects instead of their negative ones.
Surely there's more to them than the fact that they shit in a bag.
Anonymous No.723499864
>>723499427
Oh absolutely, a comfy hub and ending are peak. I just like proper adventure buildup and romance.
Anonymous No.723499898 >>723499998
>>723499694
Modern fantasy armor isn't close to anything. That tends to extend to a lot of other aspects of it with writers nothing next to nothing about the actual medieval times.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723499903
>>723490997
>It took Tolkien and Rowling just a dozen books to thoroughly conquer the minds of every teenager on the planet for four generations and counting
delusional
the facto fantasy setting in the world has always been Magic Realism, from ancient egyptians up to modern society
fantasy settings in anime are all about magic realism, fucking isekai has to come to shake things off
Anonymous No.723499989 >>723500139
>write platonic bond between two species
>obviously somewhat romantic as the two species can both talk and are of the opposite gender
>realize youre writing YA fantasy slop, so you NEED a sex scene, because they all do
>can't just fucking write about a dragon and human fucking, and frankly probably shouldn't
>introduce another fucking character and have them take over the whole story to try and pigeonhole someone else that they can fuck
>story is obviously fucking awkward afterwards lol so just fucking kill one of them off :^)

I'm too old to think this shit trope has a chance of stopping.
Anonymous No.723499998 >>723500160 >>723500287
>>723499898
I wouldn't call world of warcraft medieval fantasy any day of the week.
It's its own brand of fantasy that spawned its own sort of sub genre.
Anonymous No.723500032 >>723500232 >>723500373
>>723498452
I just want medieval fantasy without blacks nor faggots and the women must be hot and for rescue. Well maybe they can help too, but only as priestess, sorcerers or maybe a thief or rogue. No warrior females allowed, that's RETARDED
Anonymous No.723500109
>>723499512
I just looked it up and it seems that the 15th century is considered an overlap medieval and renaissance. I won't die on this hill though
Anonymous No.723500139
>>723499989
They can just skip the graphic sex an imply that it happened.
Not everything needs to be spelled out, explicit, or porn.
Why can't these writers get that through their skulls?
Anonymous No.723500157
>>723499810
Probably true. I've always wanted to try to play D&D irl but I'm too busy to go to a games place and play. I would make an apostate monk.
>>723499846
Well it does take a portion of your day dealing with that, although if it were me, I'd want to forget that I do such a thing as much as possible.
Anonymous No.723500160 >>723500242
>>723499998
Warhammer 40k knockoff?
Anonymous No.723500215
>>723499756
Faggot
Anonymous No.723500232 >>723500549
>>723500032
I found Shar-Teel in BG1 to be quite funny. She is a man-hater feminist caricature. I guess humor is one way to produce a female warrior.
Anonymous No.723500242
>>723500160
Yeah. Exactly.
Originally it was just a regular warhammer 40k knockoff.
Nowdays it's christmas light warhammer 40k knockoff subgenre.
Anonymous No.723500268 >>723500639
>>723499680
I've always wanted a massive nautical themed setting with every flavour of oceanic myth from Celtic to Caribbean to C'thulu with the absolute peak of technological progress being 18th century whalers.
Anonymous No.723500287 >>723500841 >>723501053 >>723501068 >>723501174 >>723501603
>>723499998
Warcraft is far from the only example of modern fantasy "armor" being abysmal dogshit
Anonymous No.723500373 >>723500474 >>723500672 >>723501156 >>723503105
>>723500032
I’m fine with blacks in fantasy so long as they’re in places that make sense. It’s when the dumb ass writers just start throwing everything into the pot together that it becomes a mess of meaningless slop.
Anonymous No.723500382
>>723499168
I guarantee that the person who drew that picture does not have a colostemy bag and was simply trying to peacock for the virtue signallers.
Anonymous No.723500398
just wish there were more action games based on "generic fantasy". Most of the stuff I see coming out nowadays is some kind of subversion of that, like Avowed, and I don't like it. Dragon's Dogma, Dragon's Crown, the old Capcom D&D beat'em'ups... now that was kino fantasy. If someone knows of any games like those in both gameplay and visual design please let me know.
Anonymous No.723500474
>>723500373
>It’s when the dumb ass writers just start throwing everything into the pot together that it becomes a mess of meaningless slop.
agree 100%. That hobbit village in The Rings of Power looked like modern day Manhattan. wtf
Anonymous No.723500549 >>723501362 >>723501434
>>723500232
Was she the best companion prior to the remaster?
Anonymous No.723500618 >>723501148 >>723501245 >>723501836
>>723499680
>a distinct lack of "bad guy" races and factions in japanese fantasy
How do you mean, anon? Goblin Slayer alone has the goblins, who seek to spread and despoil the whole world out of greed and envy. Not to mention, they're just one of the various non-prayer hordes that plague the world. The reason goblins are becoming a threat in the setting is because most of the kingdom's resources are tied up fighting the remnants of the Demon Lord's armies, which are trying to resurrect him.
Anonymous No.723500639
>>723500268
Obsidian hire this man!
Anonymous No.723500672 >>723500929
>>723500373
>adventure to far-off land
>the people there look different to the people in your homeland
>all is well
how is this hard for writers to grasp
Anonymous No.723500691
>>723495437
>I guess? I feel the end result is mostly just kind of the same boring
It's not.

There's a world of difference between some guy trying to guess at what pre-modern societies were like and getting it wrong, and someone who doesn't give a fuck and at best sees history and fantasy a prop. If absolutely nothing else, the former is less likely to see domestic inanity as the highest form of art and base all their characters on some foundational trauma and/or a falsehood they believe is true.
Anonymous No.723500790
>>723489487
Minecraft with dragon survival mod
Makes me mad as fuck there's next to no games where (You) are the dragon
Anonymous No.723500841 >>723501053 >>723501603
>>723500287
I don't mind the armor, but I do mind the hair style and ethnic diversity
Anonymous No.723500886
>>723489487
The Frydarian Tale has you playing as some draconian dude
Anonymous No.723500929
>>723500672
It's not that it's hard to grasp, it's that they don't want it to be true
Anonymous No.723501053 >>723501113
>>723500841
>>723500287
Despite getting an arts degree from a top school I got shit grammar and couldn't care less about writing and spelling. Somthing about the yank spelling of armour drives me up the wall though. Its the one thing. Yuck!
Anonymous No.723501068
>>723500287
knew it had to be apple or amazon browncore
Anonymous No.723501113
>>723501053
Armor is American English; armour is British English
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723501148
>>723500618
>How do you mean, anon?
anon means that he hasn't watched or read enough
Anonymous No.723501156
>>723500373
Always liked QfG3. Basically the way to do blacks is to make them an honest volk, not pretend like they are some universal humans without a background. Every time they divorce them from any kind of background you know it's simply real life politics seeping into the game.

It's really hard to make anybody a nobody. Even in a post-apocalyptic setting you would likely see people form gangs and groupings and similar backgrounds would no doubt come together. In a prison setting, the same thing. We know in real life prisons there is racial segregation.
Anonymous No.723501159
>>723489641
I hate what Blizzard did to western fantasy. And no, their old games weren't good. They've always been shit.
Anonymous No.723501174
>>723500287
>children of light
>is black
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723501235
>>723489641
the genre was never alive to begin with
Anonymous No.723501245 >>723501563
>>723500618
Goblins aren't a unified faction with their own territory. They don't rape livestock to exponentially increase numbers, only sentient and sapient beings which automatically limits their ability to grow since SOMEONE will eventually tell Goblin Slayer or another silver ranked adventurer to clear the little bastards out. Also "Demon Lord armies" should scattered warlords raiding Goblin Slayer's frontier town since it has plenty of farm land and townspeople to enslave.
Anonymous No.723501310 >>723501684
>>723499405
>for which he was killed
wat?
Anonymous No.723501336
>>723499512
Yes. Which is another thing that I fucking hate about fantasy.
Anonymous No.723501362
>>723500549
Not really? She has percentile STR, which is good, but nowhere near close to Minsc's ridiculous 18/93. Her high DEX is good for AC and ranged, but she had absolutely terrible CON for a warrior-type, so she can't take a hit. You could dual-class her to be a Thief to give her Hide and Backstab, but the low xp cap even with Tales of the Sword Coast means you don't have much to work with.
Anonymous No.723501369 >>723501481 >>723503613
>>723476509 (OP)
You guys would call this woke if it was released today
Anonymous No.723501391
>>723483313
jesus Christ am I glad I only watched the movie and didn't get into the books I should say this to my brother that wants to name his daughter saphira
Anonymous No.723501429 >>723501662 >>723501894
>>723499680
modern western fantasy doesn't have any evil races, because that's racist to niggers and jews
Anonymous No.723501434
>>723500549
She is the only evil fighter. She can get grand mastery as a human single class. But Kivan and Coran are arguably better because bows are very strong in BG1. Player character can be a way better fighter than her.
Anonymous No.723501481
>>723501369
What for
>no gays or brownoids
>hot women
>fantastic genuine feeling art style and atmosphere
Anonymous No.723501563
>>723501245
>They don't rape livestock
they do
but they just vastly prefer raping humanoids
Anonymous No.723501603 >>723501857 >>723502112 >>723502501
>>723500287
As much as I hated that show, the costumes and hairstyles were great. Nothing looked like it was inspired by modern times and styles, it all looked appropriately alien.
>>723500841
Justified in universe even in the original text, since the Whiteclocks are a NGO/militia who attract members from all over the continent.
Anonymous No.723501662 >>723501812 >>723503075
>>723501429
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723501684 >>723501982 >>723502149
>>723501310
anglos love murdering. why do you think schooβ€”
uh, i mean just google it
Anonymous No.723501745
>>723483246
Fantasy is mythical, it is our own new mythology and a way to express human tales of adventure and wonder. Fantasy brings us back to a world brimming with magic and undiscovered secrets, something long forgotten in the modern world of science and technology. It's also a lens into our own past.

Science Fiction is all about what ifs, looking to the future and imagining what could come next and because of that often seems to spend too much time daydreaming up futures and not enough time writing human stories that relate to people.

Unfortunately, nobody is writing any good sci fi or fantasy right now... last good sci fi I read was Neuromancer and the last good Fantasy book I read was probably Malazan.
Anonymous No.723501757 >>723504460
>>723488557
But Raistlin is straight, he even had a GF or two.
Anonymous No.723501812
>>723501662
he certainly means genestealers who do internally subvert like jews
Anonymous No.723501836 >>723502315 >>723503309
>>723500618
Let's look at warhammer for instance, there's a total of 8 completely evil bad guy factions that antagonize the "free peoples" so often and they also will fight eachother when encountering one another. Japanese fantasy doesn't really have many structured bad guy factions that isn't just humans but evil or corrupted. I don't know if it's because western fantasy is just meticulously autistic when it comes to making worldbuilding while jalanese fantasy is more single story focused not really trying to expand their worlds beyond default dnd fantasy. You just don't really see as much monster factions being prominent.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=57TdTSn8pu8&pp=ygUcd2FyaGFtbWVyIGdyZWVuc2tpbnMgdHJhaWxlcg%3D%3D
Anonymous No.723501857 >>723504817
>>723501603
>the Whiteclocks are a NGO/militia who attract members from all over the continent
Fair enough. I'm used to modern fantasy sprinkling in some non-whites to tick boxes, but I don't mind it when it makes sense in context
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723501894
>>723501429
dnd is slop. it's virtually not different from ai shit
>inb4 but it
start a seance and ask tolkien personally
Anonymous No.723501931
>>723497123
Mizutsunes realised they get killed during mating season so they changed from throwing tamtrums to banging humans.
Anonymous No.723501982 >>723503036
>>723501684
He died of TB, which was a common cause of death at the time.
Would love for you to finish that sentence.
Anonymous No.723502036 >>723502248 >>723502789
IT CANNOT BE SEEN, BUT THERE'S BLOOD ON THE GREEN
ONLY GOD KNOWS I'M INNOCENT
TAKE ME, TAKE ME HOME
A DARK SEED REIGNS IN ME LIKE THE STORM RULES OVER THE SEA
I CHALLENGE THEE, DO NOT CROSS THIS BRIDGE ALONE! (ALONE!)
Anonymous No.723502112 >>723504817
>>723501603
They're constantly described to be wearing polished armor under white cloaks with conical helmets. The show gave them some jedi/stormtrooper hybrid outfit
Anonymous No.723502149 >>723503036
>>723501684
Huh?
Anonymous No.723502214 >>723502939
>>723489845
The problem with modern fantasy is that all the media we consume is decided by 5 publishing companies that are all run by jews who are still mad about Hitler and want to destroy the anglo race. They simply will not publish an author, movie maker, game dev that is creating inspiring and beautiful content aimed at white males.

So "fantasy" as we now know it, is a new feminized genre appealing to all of women's desires.

Where old fantasy focused on masculine heroic tales of adventure, danger, horror, mystery and brotherhood... new fantasy focuses on egalitarianism, rebellion against monarchy or male power, feminist power fantasies and a constant subversion of any concepts of good vs evil.
Anonymous No.723502248 >>723502478
>>723502036
hank you funny unicorn game.
I'd never known Battlefield and Blind Guardian if it wasn't for you and your heavy metal sin off.
Anonymous No.723502315 >>723503309
>>723501836
Warhammer is kind of special since it's basically expected you can justify why any army would fight any other army. Orks, Chaos, and Skaven probably do as much if not more fighting with each other as they do with everybody else. Meanwhile, basically the only thing keeping the Dark Elves together is Malekith bitch slapping people.

Even the good factions are prone to infighting over incredibly petty reasons.
Anonymous No.723502478 >>723502627
>>723502248
can't believe I knew about the gay version but not about the kinoludo one. Better late than never!
Anonymous No.723502501 >>723504817
>>723501603
Still find it weird they casted darkies instead of just making the redheads black. I get its a plot point to show they dont belong in the desert, but casting whole redhead tribes must of been tough?
Anonymous No.723502512 >>723503104
>>723480508
Came to post this.
Anonymous No.723502521 >>723505814
>>723498748
When you look at what Star Wars has turned into, it's no wonder they thought it had Star Wars-like potential
Anonymous No.723502627
>>723502478
Well shit.
Enjoy anon.
Anonymous No.723502789 >>723502973 >>723503174
>>723502036
I love the song they did for Sacred 2. And the fact that the devs added an in-game performance of it.
https://youtu.be/e6Y2qGK--NI?list=RDe6Y2qGK--NI
Anonymous No.723502939
>>723502214
>constant subversion of any concepts of good vs evil.
I wish. This American obsessed fantasy is still the basis of all media, more now than ever? Evil Ganon was the worst version of him yet. Outrage porn like Joffrey from game of thrones was so cheap and predictable.
Otherwise I agree but I dont think its a conspiracy, its just we are a small consumer base, with 50% of us eating this shit up. Only AI and cut costs can save us as E33 shows.
Anonymous No.723502973 >>723503174
>>723502789
hell yeah man, this is actually how I learned about them. Wish more games had power metal music, I think it would be quite fitting for an action game set in a medieval-fantasy world
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723503036 >>723504298
>>723501982
TB? invented by the anglos, just like AIDS
euros should have stopped using fucking mummia. dear god they were as retarded
>Would love for you to finish that sentence
don't encourage me to shitpost more, anon :(
>>723502149
Yes
Anonymous No.723503075
>>723501662
I am a white man. I think the drukhari are a racist straw whistle against us whites. Now, make a fucking hour long jewtube stream about it on your wokewatch channel.
Anonymous No.723503104 >>723503529
>>723502512
I just picture sucking on her big hairy tits and the furry fantasy dies for me. At least scalies have tits you can suck on.
Anonymous No.723503105 >>723503354 >>723503387 >>723503698 >>723504070
>>723500373
if we look at Robert E Howard's Conan as one of the progenitors of fantasy, it is specifically the uniqueness and difference of racial / ethnic groups that gives the setting its intrigue.

Howard was well read on ancient history and thought, what if I made my own setting where I could have Cumin dogs, Germanic barbarians, African tribesman, sweeping Roman cities, Persian horse warriors, Spanish pirates, Mongolians and every other interesting culture from our own history, and mixed them all up into an ancient world where magic exists, but only on the very edges of reality... and it's something to be feared. And then you just tell awesome, masculine adventure stories in this setting full of monsters and hot babes!

The unique cultures and races are what MAKE the setting so interesting! Their clashes, their different philosophies, ways of life, and habits... Howard's peoples are the starting point of what fantasy writers have elaborated on to such an extent that the different cultures and races are no longer even human... but those differences are what makes fantasy interesting...

So what happens when you erase all of that in order to perpetuate the new age lie that all of human history is one big multicultural melting pot? It completely ruins the fantasy world! What's interesting about voyaging to the black jungles of savage tribesman if in actuality it's just another multicultural village... and then another multicultural village with domed buildings... and then another multucultural castle... the adventure is meaningless, travel is pointless and the world is one boring melting pot! Multiculturalism has completely ruined modern fantasy stories.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723503174 >>723503292 >>723504352
>>723502789
>>723502973
silly, nerds. this will never be mainstream. stick to your niches, you are nothing more than a loud minority
Anonymous No.723503292
>>723503174
>this will never be mainstream
I fucking hope so!
Anonymous No.723503309
>>723501836
Admittedly, evil in Japanese settings tends to be a more unified force, but like >>723502315 points out, Warhammer is a moshpit designed from the outset to justify pretty much any conflict imaginable. Most settings don't have that many major players total, let alone for any given side of good or evil.
Anonymous No.723503354 >>723503506 >>723503519
>>723503105
enough antisemitism
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723503387 >>723503603
>>723503105
>if we look at Robert E Howard's Conan as one of the progenitors of fantasy
we shouldn't. Conan falls into the same pulp as lovecraft. it is not fantasy, it is something else, something better
Anonymous No.723503496 >>723503603
tl;dr "conan the barbarian fell out of style as western fantasy's load-bearing IP and i do not like it"
Anonymous No.723503506
>>723503354
Anonymous No.723503519 >>723503762
>>723503354
every evil sorcerer in conan is hook nosed...
Anonymous No.723503529 >>723503706
>>723503104
The fur can get thinner around the nipples. Actually, it probably would.
Anonymous No.723503603
>>723503496
Didn't you hear, anon? Conan isn't fantasy, according to >>723503387.
Anonymous No.723503613
>>723501369
What an odd attempt to revise history.
hot chicks in fantasy is nothing new.
Anonymous No.723503698 >>723503858 >>723503953 >>723504861
>>723503105
I think Im reading Conan next after I finish the thing in itself. I haven't read much Conan but I've read Robert E Howard's other works and Im not sure hes your poster boy. By far the most racist shit Ive ever read. Not funny racism like my boy Lovecraft, like this dude had rage issues and is why we all cant enjoy a good nagger joke racism. Im unoffendable and he offended me, something no other author gas done. Robert was a sad bundle of hate until his Mom died and he killed himself. Again, Lovecraft was the same but at least he married and liked cats.
Anonymous No.723503706
>>723503529
Probably.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723503762
>>723503519
oy vey
STOOOOP
Anonymous No.723503839 >>723504108
How did the Pendragons came to be?
Anonymous No.723503858 >>723504678 >>723505770
>>723503698
Wasn't Lovecraft's racism rooted in his general existential terror and his particular fear of an innate corruptive force he couldn't control or resist? Ultimately, he recanted it before he died.
Anonymous No.723503953 >>723504678 >>723504719
>>723503698
>Robert was a sad bundle of hate
Throwing a hook with no bait, really?
Anonymous No.723504070 >>723504274
>>723503105
His tigerlike thews tigered thewishly.
Anonymous No.723504108
>>723503839
Isn't it just some weird Welsh etymology dating from the Roman occupation that associated dragons with war leaders?
Anonymous No.723504274 >>723504456
>>723504070
Tigers are serious business in the age of high adventure.
Anonymous No.723504298
>>723503036
>don't encourage me to shitpost more, anon :(
You're already a namefag, how much worse could you get?
Anonymous No.723504352
>>723503174
thank god for that. i will enjoy my exclusive club of warriors, wizards and bards.
Anonymous No.723504456 >>723504516 >>723504574 >>723504795 >>723506112
>>723504274
why do they have tits
Anonymous No.723504460
>>723501757
Then why is he such a massive homosexual, anon?
Anonymous No.723504489
>>723489090
In reality it's just a webnovel genre semi-popular among nips, because they can take just a generic dragon quest europe-style world and drop in their totally cool character, ideas, chuuni shit and write whatever bullshit and still be moderately entertaining and maybe get an adaptation deal.

They call it "naroupa" after the site that popularized it's nickname, narou, and europa for the fantasy aspect
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Amusingly said site was semi-recently abandoned due to the staff / algos giving preference for faggy schlickfiction so most new male nip authors write on kakuyomu (owned by kadokawa) instead.
Anonymous No.723504503 >>723505204
>>723490997
>Britain won a complete cultural victory - that's why there's that constant push for inclusion, because every kid wants to be a medieval knight or wizard.
Only after the appropriate cultural infrastructure was made, much like rthurian mythos was ironically used as a tool by the anglo-saxons. Nobody would give a fuck about any of those otherwise.
What was won here can easily be lost in the future, especially since there's a need for it.
also
>British cultural victory
>a kitsch of European folk-tales and Catholicism
>a story about a Jew kid wizard
l m a o
Anonymous No.723504516
>>723504456
they all have human bodies so either that's the point or the artist cant draw
Anonymous No.723504574
>>723504456
Do the tigers in your setting not, anon?
Anonymous No.723504678 >>723504917
>>723503858
Yea, Ive heard its complicated with him. A lot was him rebeling against liberals telling him not to be racist.
>>723503953
You tell me. Though to be fair Im mainly refering to one story but its wild.

https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601641h.html
Anonymous No.723504719 >>723505057
>>723503953
Even Lovecraft told him to chill out with the hate in his letters to Howard.
Anonymous No.723504795
>>723504456
They are shapeshifters guarding a wizards treasure.
Anonymous No.723504817 >>723505405
>>723501857
The funny thing about the WoT adaption is that the world is very diverse, different countries in different parts of the continent are Asian or African instead of European.
But that wasn't enough for the showrunners; they had to take the isolated village where the story starts and where everyone looks alike except for the redheaded hero to show he's from somewhere else - and they make that village aggressively multicultural.
It even stepped on it's own toes that way, by making Padan Fain black, it also makes it clear he's a visitor and alien to the area - except they sprinkled random black extras into the village so he doesn't stand out, defeating the entire point of the race swap.
>>723502501
I'm glad they didn't just erase redheads like happens so often, but I didn't watch past the first season. Do they even ruin that bit of lore, one of the only they actually brought into the show?
>>723502112
Of all the changes of the adaption, changing the armor is the one I minded the least, cause it still looked interesting.
Anonymous No.723504861
>>723503698
the only "racism" in Howard's books is that he portrays african tribal savages as tribal savages and that blacks are basically physically strong subhumans with 70 IQ, which is in fact reality.
Anonymous No.723504886 >>723505392
>>723492595
>the first illustrator of D&D
There's like ten artists preceding him like Trampier.
That said Elmore was good. Not the best i'd say that's Keith Parkinson, but very good.
Anonymous No.723504917 >>723505084 >>723505213 >>723505786 >>723506195
>>723504678
>ctrl+f "nigger"
>43
Anonymous No.723505057
>>723504719
They had all sorts of letters. His did acknowledge the good results of civilizations existing.
Anonymous No.723505084
>>723504917
Author was clearly tired of all their niggernotions.
Anonymous No.723505204 >>723505367
>>723504503
>much like rthurian mythos was ironically used as a tool by the anglo-saxons.
Why was that ironic?

>British cultural victory
>a kitsch of European folk-tales and Catholicism
Tolkien was Catholic but Rowling is Anglican.

>a story about a Jew kid wizard
Odd take on it, why do you see a nerdy bullied kid who's secretly a prodigy and think of Jews?
Anonymous No.723505213
>>723504917
>literally just "black" but in belgian
Or what language was it
Anonymous No.723505367
>>723505204
>Why was that ironic?
>what is ironic about children of invaders repurposing a myth about their enemy
Anonymous No.723505392
>>723504886
I like Keith Parkinson, but there's something about Justin Sweet's art that I think is rad as fuck.
Anonymous No.723505405
>>723504817
I know they didn't think any further than their religion demanding diversity, but the implication of a town isolated for centuries having a diverse populace is hilarious.
It can literally only exist if you have a culture that:
A) Is highly tolerant of each other
B) Abjectly refused to allow race mixing despite this until very recently
It's a world where Cletus and Jamal both share a beer as they both sneer in disgust at those dirty mutts turning up these days
Anonymous No.723505579
>>723490997
I like how many turd world poltarded schizos your post upset.
Anonymous No.723505705 >>723505931
>>723481752
that IS a fucking colostomy bag!
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.723505770
>>723503858
this is why the lovecraft circle is not a circle of "traditional fantasy" (as in the tolkien sense)
they interpreted what they were seeing unlike tolkien who just wanted a mythology that could be interpreted by future generations... and oh man, isn't it interpreted? lmao
Anonymous No.723505786
>>723504917
Kek. Like I said, it was a little over the top.
Anonymous No.723505814
>>723502521
Star Wars was a super-massive hit that literally no one expected. Lucas himself thought it would flop, and so did Fox, which is the reason they signed away the merchandising rights to him - a mistake they have never since repeated. Not to mention, Lucas had a vision, even if he struggled at times to translate it onto film. The people who bought the franchise from him didn't.
Anonymous No.723505931
>>723505705
Baffling, isn't it? Someone actually paid someone to draw that.
Anonymous No.723506112
>>723504456
To attract human men
Anonymous No.723506135
>>723493480
>even in the past places like Amsterdam, Venice, and New york were highly multicultural.
lmao try to look up some actual census numbers sometime.
Anonymous No.723506167
cloaca btw
Anonymous No.723506195
>>723504917
This might be the funniest post Ive ever seen on v. Well done.
Anonymous No.723506263
>>723480919
this