Thread 723484393

Mejina forah

benny frank

What if her taunt is ethnic slurs in bugspeak?

>>723484393 (OP)
It's me again.

ah lai lai lai lai lai

OOSHKAROOO

Garama

>>723484393 (OP)
HREN

>>723485127
Yesss finally someone says it the way I hear it

>>723485808
lel, my first thought

>>723486943
EYRA!

MEHH!

COME ON!
OHAHAHAHA!

TROBBIO!

>>723487530
UWAH~
why does she sound so hot

>>723486943
I was avoiding the internet until I beat the game and was so glad to find this. Why did they make the call so fucking loud? Literal earrape

Do shardillards respawn? I need one more for the completed journal

Yamaga....moshkay!

>>723488375
sensitivity to loud noises is a sign of autism

>>723489285
PARA VOS!

HOY
HOY
HOY
HOY
HOY
HOY

HO! ZAA AAA REEE AHHH

>>723488269
Her and the Architects voice make me act unwise, thought I was the only one

>>723490129
twelfth architect is pure sex

>>723489813
I thought she yelled ''DIARRHEA''.

>>723489360
Sure, I might have autism. But are you actually trying to say that voice line isn't 20% louder than anything else she says in the game?

NAAAOOOOOOHHH

>>723491264
This is the voice line that made me fall in love with Hornet. Before I was ambivalent. Now I am obsessed.

>>723489285
sex with Mooshka

>>723492385
Vog...

>game has no real language
>voice acting is super good anyway
Reminds me of the "argument" from absolute mouthbreathing retards that you can't evaluate the quality of VA if you don't know the language.

why does Hera look so different from other weavers?

>>723493403
fat bitch

>>723485808
i chuckled

>>723493403
Because she can breed, most Weavers cant, hence the rarity of the species.

what the fuck is this and how did it happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Clb5I4Zf80

>>723491264
This is the perfect voiceline

>>723490620
She is, in fact, a little louder in the voice line where she’s shouting for a bug on the other side of the map to come give her a ride.

>>723493935
i can't believe an orchestra knows about my small indie game that no one has ever heard about and only sold copies to the dev's family members.

>>723494153
The loudness isn't the problem. It's the un filtered high end that really grates on the brain. Your ears might already be fucked if you can't register it.

>>723484539
>what if
she only uses shaw, adidas and hegale against the knight. probably releasing pent up frustration because he doesn't talk back.

>>723484393 (OP)
hasbeen

>>723495291
benifren

>>723495291
hasfine?

Just beat Lost Lace 10 minutes ago
What a fucking letdown

>>723496114
Mhm, irunare.

Tbh, I think shartsong was a step back. HK fights, due the iframe dodge, had more of a bullet hell feeling during boss fights. Personally I think this is more fun. Instead they tried to pivot to a more sekiro like combat system, the only bosses where this really worked were first sinner and trobbio. The rest of the bosses are utter trash. Gauntlet slop, 2 or 3 simple attacks with adds spawned, insane tracking on some attacks, environmental hazards added to rehashed bosses. It's just all very uninspired. I think they should've kept it tighter, maybe 8 or 10 tightly designed bosses. The world also feels overstretched and nonsensical. It really is the Dark Souls 2 of Hollow Knight.

>>723489102
I thought she said caravan here and I was expecting this taunt to summon something for a while

>>723491264
The cutest line

bapanada?

>>723496519
except for some of the end game bosses almost all HKs bosses were boring as hell and standard enemies were almost all shit save mantises and the higher tier husk guards. Silksong would have been better with only 8-10 "tightly designed" bosses? bosses? Are you nuts? Less than half the count of the original game? SS is miles better than the first.

Impregnating Grand Mommy Silk.

>>723490392
that would be appropriate given the quality of the fight

nushla nuu

so TC has no choice but to add an act 4 for story dlc right?

>>723498854
mobadis...

>>723500235
She's one of the good ones

>>723500235
Best girl in Silksong

>>723493154
It's about tone. Even dogs can understand when you say the same word with joy, anger, or not directed to them at all. The problem with these voice actors is that they just "sound" the emotion rather than being the emotion. It's like seeing an obviously fake smile. I'd rather you not smile at all.

>>723499704
>Do not think such thoughts of the Divine!

>>723500537
There's no story need for it. Pharloom is free, the survivors will rebuild, same as Hollow Knight, and Hornet will go off to further adventures with Lace. It would be nice if they added extra story DLC that's actually polished with how much act 3 was a disappointment, but it's likely they'll go in a different direction.
Anyone expecting Hallownest DLC is a tard.

>>723500537
Steel City DLC soon brother, have faith.

Yes, permadeath is the default way of playing it. Don't worry you can disable it, but when you reach the ending cinematic it will just be a tiny bit different. No biggie, I'm sure.

I feel like meat delivery (even with clearing the path) and first sinner were the most frustrating parts. Even bile runback wasn't as bad for me.
Wish there were more fights like cog twins, phantom or lace 2.

>>723501768
Meat delivery was always easy for me every time I did it because I realized there was no point doing it until I got the other four items, so I had clawline, double jump, and both speed tools. On my steel soul run I did it with 3 of 6 hits remaining, and that was with taking a hit to a driznit.

>>723496519
Honestly I feel the same
I liked Hollow Knight all the way through. The most frustrating the main game got was Queen's Gardens, and that's a cakewalk compared to the shit Silksong throws at you even in the first act. I'd gladly replay it over and over
Thinking about replaying Silksong and all of the bullshit runbacks and tedious gauntlets pretty much extinguishes any desire I have to play this game again. Hell, the moment I beat Lost Lace I uninstalled it to get back disk space

>>723501618
>the survivors will rebuild, same as Hollow Knight
Pharloom might still have a chance to recover but Hallownest is absolutely dead and buried by the end of HK, there's nothing to rebuild

>>723501768
meat delivery was piss fucking easy, no idea how people struggled with it

>>723502462
The City of Tears is still completely functional, arguably in better shape than the Citadel because it didn't rely on the complex metalworking of the architects whose knowledge has been lost to time. With the infection gone, the survivors can easily just move back in.

>>723501768
First Sinner has 0 runback so even if you struggle with the fight you can just try again right away.

>got to Trobbio/Lugoli/Bilewater/High Halls
>stopped playing for two weeks
I'm afraid to go back

>>723502452
Same here, I didn't really get frustrated at all with HK until White Palace but I'd do that again in a heartbeat over like a third of the areas in this game. It just has too many "that part"s to replay.

>>723502686
>the survivors can easily just move back in
that's the thing, which survivors? bugs can recover from the haunting but the Radiance infection turns you into a complete zombie and unless you're the Hollow Knight himself there's no coming back from that
>but Dirtmouth-
yeah I don't think they're leaving

>>723503285
over time travelers will find the remains of hallownest and resettle

I wonder if TC will add new crests in future content. They got to, right? I was thinking of some potentially fun one
>Master Crest: 1 Red, 2 Blues, 2 Yellows, 1 Spell : binding near enemies with low enough health turn them into allies that fight for you until they die in combat or naturally after a few seconds. Enemies who can be turned flash grey regularly. Probably would be great for gauntlets
>Fool Crest: 4 Red, 3 Blues, 2 Yellows, 3 Spells: anytime you bind, it picks 2 Red, 2 Blues, 1 Yellow and 1 Spell and that's your build until you bind again. Vesticrests tools are not affected.
>Grimmkin Crest : 1 Blue, 2 Yellows, no Red and Spell slots, but you get three unique spells based on Grimm's attacks in the first game : sending bats as missiles, making columns of fire come out of the ground, and a variant of Sharpdart that you can keep active to swerve in another direction. Binding heals for 1 but costs 5 silk rather than 9, and you also sends out balls of fire all around you and you can keep going by mashing your button. Taunting replaced by bowing.

>>723503285
>but the Radiance infection turns you into a complete zombie
Dream nail dialogue implies otherwise. They're mindfucked, but not to the extent of complete zombification, with some bugs even remaining relatively lucid while infected.
Plus like the other anon said, other travellers from outside the kingdom will learn that the land is rebuilding.

>>723503339
How about they start by giving Reaper a damage bonus

>>723489813
>>723489285
>>723488375
>>723484393 (OP)
Are these official or does TC have the transcripts available?

>>723502961
>First Sinner has 0 runback so even if you struggle with the fight you can just try again right away.
I wish more of the bosses had this degree of restraint
Feel like I might have accidentally enjoyed Karmelita if she had something like this rather than having a long colosseum victory lap and annoying ant enemies to deal with each time
>B- but it's your punishment for not being good enough!
It's the second hardest boss in the game, fuck off with this bullshit. If Seth and the wall bird had no runback, Karmelita could have had no runback

>>723503617
just anons going by the sound. don't think there's any official text of the voice lines.

>>723503070
Just take a visit to the petrified ducts and get the item that makes Bilewater, Bitchwater.

>>723503487
they should reduce wanderer's range and give reaper like a sweet spot mechanic. reaper and wanderer are the most boring crests

>>723503701
I'm fairly sure the VAs also just make shit up, I heard the Green Prince say "shadow" and then quickly add "ro" to make it not an accidental English word

>>723484585
so picrel is bug marika or am i missing some info

>>723503757
>I'm fairly sure the VAs also just make shit up
Gotta wonder about the creation process for this voicework piece of art. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFRleTfv1tk

EECHAOO

>>723503874
Marika if she was hot.

>>723501768
First Sinner's one of the best fights in the game. It's super fast paced and chaotic but everything feels 100% fair, there's also zero runback. If anything, I wish she was harder. She's a bit on the easy side for a lategame secret boss

>like using Hunter
>every memory locket used on Hunter delays the Eva upgrades
>Eva upgrades impact Hunter most
Thanks?

>>723484393 (OP)
TRANNY!

i did it
yeah i know

>>723503339
>>>723503487
>no Wyrm Crest, the most obvious one

>>723504424
I think the Eva upgrades count total slots, so using memory lockets on hunter crest does count.

>>723504424
No clue why they did that, very dumb decision.

>>723504519
You
Are
Wrong.
Stop spreading misinformation. Eva's upgrades only check for the total number of slots outside of the Hunter Crest.

>>723503487
Reaper would become good if the extra silk gain actually persisted even if you took damage.

>badabing badaboom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIjp1pZGQBw

>>723504413
same, first sinner was so much fun. would have loved if she had the rune rage and two/three sets of needles overlapping but i only ever saw rune rage and one set of needles or two sets of needles and no rune rage overlapping. just a step or two up in difficulty would have been great.

>>723484393 (OP)
>das fine

>>723504413
If you haven't, would recommend doing it without skills or red / blue / yellow tools if you get the chance. It's pretty fun and just the right amount of difficulty imo

Da, fenestra

Is there a lore reason for why First Sinner is a memory fight?
Because it feels like you just break her out of prison and fight her. How is it a memory?

>>723504283
sex with Phantom

>>723504798
It isn't a memory fight, she just has enough restraint not to fucking kill you

Are weavers spiders?
Why did her mother fuck a worm?

>>723504798
Because she's already dead, but as a Weaver she left enough of her memory to grant you her skill if you prove yourself by beating it.

>>723504798
She's dead, anon

>play almost whole game with reaper because heal carry me through a lot of stuff
>see people telling it's really bad
Huh?

>>723484393 (OP)
Hello discord.

>>723504798
Pic related is her corpse.

>>723504519
lockets on the hunter crest don't count, unfortunately
>>723504604
you can be correct without typing like an insufferable redditor, sister!

>>723501768
Meat delivery was easy if you had already cleared the Exhaust Organ. It cuts your route in half.

>>723504965
People only care about DPS and numbers

one day he will decide it's boring to just relax in the Abyss forever
Hornet won't visit frequently enough
he'll fondly reminisce about how fun and exciting it was to ransack a kingdom and bring everything in it to heel

and then he'll go do it again

>>723489285
PUNTA OSH

>>723504798
The first sinner is just a figment of Hornets imagination as a cope for being stripped naked and raped by flies.

Keska...

>>723504413
Sinner was ALMOST peak but the teleport spam was too much. A lot of the fun of avoiding projectile spam is looking for lines through the shit to your target to stay on top of them; Sinner constanty repositioning kind of obviates that. Teleportation can work well in a fight (see Lost Lace) but Sinner does it like every second, on the second.

>>723504965
No crest is bad but some are just better.

>>723504798
what really gets me is that it's literally hornet accessing the memory of a long-dead bug to fight her in her prime
and then act 3 makes a big deal out of how you need the elegy of the deep to do that when hornet just casually did it in act 2
it's so fucking stupid

>*fuck up Flea Dodge*
UGH, GARBAGE

Ooo shafeeteh!!

>>723501615
*BANG BANG*

>>723504965
In these types of games people tend to gravitate to the most optimal (read: high DPS and easy to use) playstyles which in this game is Wanderer, by far.

>>723500235
Best girl
>Ulanuu <3

>>723505325
Because she's not stealing First Sinner's heart, she's trying to bind her skill like she did with literally every other weaver skill and crest you get in the game. First Sinner just had the foresight to leave a "beat me in my prime to earn it" memory.

Ahhh omar khayyam

>>723505325
you can excuse that with some weird slop about binding and absorbing one's crest blah blah blah. what doesnt make sense is when she murked green prince

Krat is literally me.

>>723505416
Point taken, I feel like Hunter eventually edges out, though it requires being able to play the game and not getting hit to actually get the most out of it

>>723505584
he cums on the needle btw

>>723504791
I did it nail-only, I only really use tools on flying enemies & gauntlets. She just feels way too fair & fun to be truly hard. Fighting her was a cakewalk compared to Groal.

>>723505584
Lazy fucks should've made unique videos for each upgrade

>>723505517
Green Prince tried to kill her

>>723505654
Hunter is too high skill, and requires too much to unlock full potential. Wanderer is the best crest from the get go, and it's one of the easiest to get.

>>723504413
>>723504681
I love how First Sinner fight. Honestly Silksong frustrated me a lot. I feel like Silksong was built for people who'd been playing Hollow Knight for 7 years uninterrupted. But when you get in that flow state, it feels so good which is a feeling not too many games provide now

>>723505743
after getting mindraped and told to fuck off.. kinda rude of hornet tbqh

>>723505681
TC screencaps the animations. They left a mouse cursor in the bell dive clip

>no memory fight against Shakra's master
>no memory fight against the dead Pinstress
>no boss in the Nameless town
Game gay

>>723505807
Silksong Pantheon 5 is gonna break some fucking souls

>>723505325
First Sinner is a Weaver. Hornet can access the memories of other weavers using silk (and does repeatedly, to bind skills). She needs the Elegy to extend this ability to those hearts which are NOT bound to silk. Which is the whole point of that quest; to gather the strength of those great leaders of old whose societies weren’t connected to the Weavers.

>>723505867
Nameless Town's boss is the climb to get there

>>723504965
I used to be the same. Then I tried wanderer on my second run and it melts bosses. Then I also tried hunter and beast and realized they're all better than reaper, though reaper is very beginner friendly so it's fine. The only crest i don't really like is witch.

>>723505867
Pinstress isn’t dead and you do fight her

>>723506068
There were three Pinstresses, one of them became the Seamstress, and the third one is dead in the ducts where you find the wreath.

>>723506150
Wait what

>>723505229
>teleport spam
Dash attack or clawline, its not that hard. She can't really get away from you if you're constantly pressing the attack

>>723506030
I like witch but the pogo magnetizing you into the thing you hit fucks you up a lot with certain enemies including lost lace.

>>723505743
In a dream

>>723506183
You didn't notice when you got the Wreath of Purity that it was at a Pinstress house?

>>723506187
>it’s not that hard
I didn’t say it was. I said it made the fight less fun.

>>723506380
I never did. I just assumed it was one of those stiltfuckers in their swamp ghillie suits and the implication was it was how they kept maggot free despite swimming in the shit 24/7.

>>723505867
act 3 was so clearly rushed and unfinished. it really drags down the game as a whole.

Should I use longclaw with wanderer?
I miss the reaper range

>>723506383
I liked it, gives the boss a real fast tempo and really sells you on 2 Weavers going all out

>>723506546
IIRC Longclaw gives the largest percentage increase of range on Wanderer... by a lot... compared to the other crests. It's kind of nuts, almost made specifically for Wanderer.

> that little giggle she does when you fight her in HK
I'm in love bros

>>723504965
The common perception of each Crest, as far as I can see is

>Pale Being tier
Wanderer attacks the fastest therefore it has the highest DPS and gains the most Silk enabling healing and skills

>Higher Being tier
Architects lets you restore tools using Silk as well as trading a Silk art for another tool. And since tools are so powerful, this means you can nuke any enemy with no effort. The trade off is that you're going to have to grind Shards to pay for it all

Hunter's has the most potential since the damage bonus enables very high damage but that entails not getting hit at all. Also no one likes the 45 degree pogo

>Knight tier
Beast Crest is great for Unga bunga against bosses or gauntlets. But it sucks ass for travel and it has no Blue slots

Shaman Crest isn't that great but it is a very safe Crest that lets you attack from a distance

Reaper Crest is great for travel. And the Silk mechanic also gives a safety net. But the DPS is very low

>Pilgrim tier
Witch Crest is long range on the nail... and that's it. The Heal Bind is extremely awkward, requiring enemies to actually heal AND good positioning on your part. Also the long range is balanced by it being very slow.

This is my experience with the combat tools.

>>723506649
Wanderer is slightly more range than hunter. how's this work

>>723505867
DLC
One of the dlc's is almost guaranteed to be memory stuff, at least for the godhome equivalent and probably a few new bosses will be memories, including Shakra's master. Maybe they also do something like grimm dlc again and new characters move into bellhart and give new quests.

>>723484393 (OP)
okay, I have 8 and 3/4 hp. I still have
>groal
>conchfly 2
>first sinner
>wisp thicket
left, which one is gonna gib me max HP?
and don't say groal cause I just found a mask in bilewater so I doubt there's a second one here

>>723504965
Reaper is just safe with low DPS.

>>723506765
You should give the conch, saw, and drill a solid chance. They're some of the best red tools in the game in my opinion. You can even use the drill to pogo in platforming parts and if you don't hold the button it doesn't cost anything, useful if you're using beast or architect.

>>723506791
Don't think about it too hard.
Each crest has a tool that is disproportionately powerful for it.
Pinstress badge, for instance, is best on Hunter.

>>723506960
I think it’s Wisp Thicket. It’s 100% not Groal or Conchfly rematch.

>>723506960
It's the wisp, to the right of the bench.

>>723506765
Dice and fractured mask are the best 2 charms in the game, nothing else matters.

>>723507030
>safe
nothing safe about it, it gathers silk too slow compared to wanderer.

>>723496519
>Hollow Knight II Critique by BugtthewBugtosis

>>723494824
you can taunt instead and it still counts iirc

>>723506751
>Also no one likes the 45 degree pogo
I do...

>>723488375
It's so that you feel the impact of relief when she says it softly after defeating Bell Eater

>>723507507
I do too. Even after learning that Hunter's and Architect's are the meta Crests, I stick with Hunter's. To the point I feel like I'm a boring player.

One day I'm gonna give Shaman's a valid chance

>>723484393 (OP)
.

>>723506751
>anons omitting/forgetting that shaman also buffs silk skill damage making cross stitch/thread storm insanely strong
NGMI

>>723507647
Jesus fuck you can't just talk about Fleas like that. >>>/pol/

>>723507778
>he doesn't know what happened to Threadstorm
Anon, I...

>>723506791
Architect is the most broken crest in the game
It has:
The best charge attack, with the pin every common enemy dies instantly.
The ability to get health regen
The ability to just spam cogflies and other tools and make more if needed.
Good amount of blue and yellow slots
Pretty good dps and range.

The only negative now that thread storm was nerfed to the ground:
The pogo is pretty bad but you can negative it by just using the drill, you still have 2 red slots left.

Meanwhile witch feels like a meme.

im p sure the 2 damge extended threadstorm is a bug tho.

>>723507342
fractured mask gets obsoleted once you hit act 2 and get your 7th mask. at that point you can run injector band + multibinder, which makes all other defensive blues obsolete.

>>723507342
speed bind injector is better than mask but still loses out to the DICE

>>723507859
still the highest damage silk skill even after the nerf,
>but muh cast time
you're immune to practically anything that's not a boss slamming into you.

>>723507647
Whatever happened to The Knight? The strong, silent type. He wasn't in touch with his feelings. He just did what he had to do.

>>723507859
>>723507992
>"balancing" a single player game after everyone already played it
But... why?

>>723484393 (OP)
haaaawws

>>723505053
He'll get buckbroken by the Steelchads of the City of Steel who make the void their bitch for fun and you'll have to free him

>>723501768
wdym? first sinner was pisspoor easy, you get insta retry, and if you just spam clawline she goes down very fast

>>723489285
>bloodsucking parasites are gypsies
What did they mean by this?

So why did gms want hornet anyway? And all the other weaver spawns

>>723508269
they'll release DLC and eventually a boss rush so i dont see why not if it makes game more interesting

>>723500235
She's so adorable

>>723508269
Why do you specify “single player” like it matters? Balance is balance. Why do you balance multiplayer games?

>>723504965
Hunter barbed bracelet dont get hit = god tier

>>723508731
>Why do you balance multiplayer games?
Because shitters cry otherwise.

>>723508595
There's a carriage with a note remarking on a 1/4 blood Weaver that was kidnapped by The Choir. Also when you defeat the Bell Beast, you can hear Grand Mother Silk whispering that she's glad Hornet is here and that the Silk is hers.

So presumably, Grand Mother Silk has decided she wants her Silk back from the traitorous Weavers, including their descendants

>>723508595
She was taking back their silk powers. Hornet in particular may have been intended to serve as a shell for Lace to be given sturdiness and agelessness.

>>723508491
the Hollow Knight will go there to free him

>>723504413
rolled up on her pretty early by accident

>>723508872
That doesn’t make sense. If Ryu is demonstrably better than other characters, everyone picks Ryu. If the shotgun outclasses every gun, everyone runs shotgun. How does being a shitter impact your ability to pick the one objectively correct option?

>>723505807
Why aren't you using the clawline? You're leaving out so much free damage. It's practically mandatory for First Sinner given how much she teleports.

>>723506765
Snare Setter does really good damage (85 at 4/4 tool dmg upgrades) but there's a slight delay in setting it up (if you don't hold the button, hornet will waste a charge without actually placing the trap) and a slight delay in the detonation. It's incredible in certain situations.

It also has the issue that you lose it permanently after doing Silk and Soul

>>723508883
>>723508903
So you don't know, got it.

>>723496519
I feel the opposite, the entirety of Silksong felt "what if HK was actually polished and good", which is crazy since HK is already one of the best indie games out there, and games in general.
I do have some complaints on my own though:
1. Needolin shouldn't cost silk, make it that you just need to have silk in stock, or at least not make it use silk in safe areas so I can actually read the damn dialogues
2. Shell shards shouldn't exist, I did not even use tools that much because I wanted a fair clean fight against most bosses, but the few times I used them it just felt bad to experiment with them, the resource bottleneck adds nothing to the game, you can balance architect in some other way of that's really the reason for their existance
3. The grand mother fight was lame

>>723488375
You can call him with the Garama button :3

>>723508731
The mindset behind single player games and multiplayer games is different. In mp, both players need to stand an equal chance of winning, so that skill is the deciding factor. Obviously balancing a perfectly equal game with different options is impossible, so you patch to make the scales as close to even as possible. In SP, there's no other player to cry about how unfair something is. While I don't think a game should be broken, I also think players should be allowed to be OP if they can figure out how. I don't think Thread Storm was broken. It was just strong. So strong that it invalidated every other options. Honestly the other Silk skills should've been raised to Thread Storm's level rather than the other way around

>>723488375
Needolin is the only way I know to wake her up gently ;_;

>>723509010
I've learned to use it more. Karmelita has forced me to

>>723496519
The combat itself is way better in Silksong. And Hornet is so much more fun to move and platform with.
That's where the improvements end though, in just about every other aspect it's a downgrade or a sidegrade to Hollow Knight.

>>723508979
Because its a single player game and not a pvp game?

>>723509059
Both answers say GMS wants her silk back.

>>723508938
I genuinely hope so.
Give me my Paladin game.

>Rune Rage
>cool let's try it
>Random damage circles miss everytime
great!

>>723509335
Rune Rage was such an incredible disappointment

>>723509059
You have autism

>>723509147
>The mindset behind single player games and multiplayer games is different. In mp, both players need to stand an equal chance of winning, so that skill is the deciding factor.
Both characters pick Ryu. The match is perfectly balanced and entirely down to skill. That has nothing to do with BALANCE. Balance is about having multiple options be equally viable, that has nothing to do with whether or not a game is PVP.

silksong is thematically more like a souls game than the original was

>>723509386
Damn anon. That's a good point. It's a good thing thing literally the next sentence says
>Obviously balancing a perfectly equal game with different options is impossible, so you patch to make the scales as close to even as possible.

Hello sisters.

>>723507507
me aswell. i tried the other crests but they feel like shit, now that i found eva after killing gms i really feel the power of hunter spike

cross stitch + full hunter + flintslate + barbed bracelet does around 550 dmg. i dunno if anything compares to that

>>723509335
This but every other crest/tool/skill

>>723509438
Indieness of it makes it more likely to make the player go insane.

>>723509583
Literally me

GARAMA

>>723509525
Honestly Hunter's with the Flea Cocaine and Flintslate feels the most fun for me. I know everyone loves the Cogfly but they just get in the way.

>>723509583
If you told me left was just a normal tomboy I'd believe you.

>>723509664
Oh no mindbroken troons are spamming the thread

Support trans rights!

>>723493823
Didn't she have a husband who failed to get her pregnant before she resorted to fucking the pale king?

Man, I sire do love the moderation team!

>>723509452
But my point, you midwit, is that the reasons why it’s good to have multiple options be equally viable are totally unrelated to whether a game is PVP or PVE. If a fighting game has 30 characters but one is objectively better than the others, then in a sense it only has one character. That makes the game less fun, because there are fewer viable options. Balance is intended to encourage a wider variety of playstyles. It has nothing to do with fairness between players because players can both just pick the same broken character and the game will be perfectly even and fair.

It’s EXACTLY the same if you have 6 spells, 7 crests, 30 tools, and everyone picks the same build because it’s objectively best. If one crest is always better, then in a sense the game only has one crest. If one tool is always better then in a sense the game only has one tool. The reasons for balancing the game are to make more options viable. The game not being multiplayer PVP is completely fucking irrelevant to WHY balance matters.

What did you do when the game was released?

>>723509065
>you can balance architect in some other way
Like how ?

>The grand mother fight was lame
I figured they wanted to keep the fight doable to get the cursed ending. But they could have changed it somewhat for that particular case. Added some dialogue, different attacks, something to lead to a different GMS tailored for that particular case.

NIGGERO!

>>723509647
Anon...

>>723505584
Why does she even need this guy to put oil in her sword and clean it a little when she's able to craft new tools from scratch?

>>723505807
I love that Widow, First Sinner and Grand Mother Silk have such similar movesets. It's a great little bit of continuity between generations of Weavers.

>>723510053
Similar while also being completely distinct.

>>723509307
Both answers are head canon.

>>723509583
>>723509505
>>723509967
This is disturbing. What the fuck do they put in the water in america man??

>>723509864
Architect is already balanced by trading silk for a reload. If you took away shards, you’d need to slightly rebalance tool power to account for the fact that you get a free refill at every bench. Accordingly, all Architect would need is some tuning of the silk cost of the reload. Since tools don’t build silk on their own it still self-limits spam as long as the silk cost is tuned right.

I can't tell who is raiding

>>723510243
This

>>723510284
Me too man.

>>723510286
>>723510347
Kill yourself faggot.

>>723501768
You could have just pre-cleared the route before grabbing the package and made the task much easier, same way how you do the delicate flower quest in the first game. The bastard geometry flies in the blasted steps don't respawn between room transitions unlike the other animal type enemies for some reason.

>>723510243
You have autism and can't read and you should kill yourself

>>723509864
They really should've given GMS a harder third phase if you trigger the snare

>>723510404
Calm down anon.

>>723509307
>Be primal source of silk
>Literally unlimited silk
>Still wants more silk because uh...
You troons are mental

>>723510053
>>723510129
And for that matter, Phantom and Lace. Though Second Sentinel also has a remarkably similar style of swordsmanship (pinsmanship?)

It's going to be awhile before another yuri game of Silksongs caliber

This is what Silksong does to a man.

>>723510541
Sentinel also shares some attacks from Pinstress, specifically the X-slash.
Lore through combat is great.

>>723510541
The pinstress also has the exact same charged attack as the second sentinel, also the same dash attack as lace.

>>723510594
>t. ranny

>>723510434
Asking a simple question made you poopy your diapy?

>>723503874
>uplifsts aggressive schizo spiders
>schizo spiders schizo
>GMS a god-melty
>schizo spiders put her to sleep and flee

This game troons you out.

>>723495161
Why is she like this

>>723510709
You being an autistic retard is what made me mad, and rightfully so

GIERO

>>723509335
Rune rage is just ass, and then they nerfed it instead of buffing it.

>>723500235
Stupid slug-snail. Evil void creature. Die die die.

>>723510819
Silksong lore is slop.

>>723510931
You're a faggot

Jupiterclimb stopped streaming the game because he was losing his entire audience. I feel bad for the guy because he genuinely seemed to want to get a world record. But, the people watching want to see him do castlevania games. I kinda view that as the canary in the coal mine metaphor. People are fed up with the game. It really was just overhyped. I enjoyed the game, but the initial difficulty and most of the game's difficulty was just too much. It didn't feel like upgrades mattered until you got double jump umbrella and super jump. Everything else felt like shit. All they had to do to fix most of the issues was add a cloak that lowers damage received by the halfway point of the game.

>>723510931
Based.

This thread is over

>>723510781
Never not be funny that the hard-cores dont think Silksong is a tranny game.

Well, this girl has to play Silksong!

>>723505517
>what doesnt make sense is when she murked green prince
Her hatred of homosexuals is a big part of her character

>>723511031
hell of a victim complex, anon

Did you watch /ourgirl/'s playthrough?

>>723510931
this is kinda true unless they rewrite some act 3 stuff which has like a 25% chance of happening

>>723509017
Wait, you can actually use that thing? I tried using it when I got it but it wasn't doing anything so I thought it was just for entering act 3.

>>723510536
You misunderstand. She doesn't want MORE silk, she wants it BACK. She's revoking the godhood of the Weavers. They didn't play nice so she's taking her proverbial ball and going home. She uplifted lesser bugs to be her children (as Pale Beings are wont to do), but the Weavers betrayed her and usurped her, using song to keep her dormant. When she finally began to awaken in spite of this, she used mind control and sent out the choir to exterminate all the Weavers. They hid, they fled, but she found them all and exterminated them, one by one, and took back their silken power. Then she sent envoys out into the world to find their descendants and reclaim their silk as well. She created new daughters (Phantom, and later Lace) and basically started all over again, in a new, better world without her fucked up pre-alpha test material scattered all over it. At least, this was her plan.

She claimed Hornet like she claimed all the others. She wanted every last Weaver drained and dead at her feet, or worse, for the sin of Apostasy. For the sin of betraying her. But Lace chose to free Hornet because she's a whiny petulant shit who never got the pony she asked for and she knew Hornet could threaten GMS because she has other pale power within her blood (due to the Wyrm).

>>723493154
>you can't evaluate the quality of VA if you don't know the language
You can't. At best you can evaluate tone in a very very basic way

>>723511031
This anon did not git gud.

>>723510658
I think it's probably fair to say that there is a school of pin fighting, probably the order of pinstresses', that Lace and Phantom learned and that Second Sentinel was programmed with, whereas the instinctive fighting form of the Weavers are descended directly from their kinship with Grand Mother Silk.

>>723511071
>>723511183
>>723511349
Go back to spamming CP so that we can report you and you can go to jail

So beautiful!

>>723503339
How about Boss Crest. Access to all skills and tools she had as a boss in HK, 50 masks without healing and she says shaw and adidas again.

I think I found our resident beastchad's youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJSVHxwIHpA

>>723511372
You're right because pinstress says so herself, she and her order taught the soldiers of pharloom swordfighting and then they used that knowledge to hunt down and kill them.

>>723511539
Based.

>>723511372
It is a bit of a missed opportunity that Lace 2 didn't get Phantom/Widow style attacks added to her kit, IMO, as a way of selling her desperation.

I think they should have added a Lace fight; Lace 1 in the beginning, then do the Lace 2 fight we get at the end of Act 1 (just before the cutscene where she silkifies all the dead back to life), have the elevator fight be Lace 3 where she can also summon the rune patterns, but hers are sharpened flower petals (instead of bells, knives, and needles, respectively).

Then for Lost Lace, you also add the every-enemy-has-this Void shit, but she keeps the rune patterns from our new Lace 3, except they're made of Void blades rather than flower petals.

>>723506765
I put the Poshanka rings just to do Poshankas whenever I encountered Shakra. I don't use tools much anyway.

>>723511272
Yeah, you have to hold the button down until a white rune is created on the ground, otherwise hornet just uselessly throws away a cartridge

>>723511664
>Phantom/Widow
meant to say Sinner/Widow, but you know what I mean. lines appear, then projectiles fly along those lines, and also a big fly-across-the-screen frantic slash thing.

What's with indie games?

>>723511310
why are you replying sincerely to a guy who's very obviously trying to derail the thread?

>>723511272
Not only can you use it, it's actually the highest damage dealing tool in the game, hence why it costs silk in addition to shards.

>>723511925
You're right, I'm sorry.

>>723508269
>thread storm is OP everyone picks it for big damage
>no one picks the other fun and interesting skills they put a lot of work into implementing because damage smol

>>723484393 (OP)
Temioyen?

>>723511830
This person Silksongs at the highest level.

>>723512185
haha so true

>>723511953
Costing silk doesn't mean that much. Silkshot costs silk and it' a mediocre tool in all its forms.

>>723509159
I hit the bells above her

>>723503757
>I'm fairly sure the VAs also just make shit up
This. i saw the woman who voiced nuu thanking team cherry for allowing her to "make silly sounds". Pretty sure the words are never written down or given in advance.

What will the DLC content be?

Lmao the E33 shill is still troonposting

cute

>>723495161
nigga, thats kawaii

>>723508164
i hope a nude mod happens...

Dude you completely missed like 2 months of comfy Silksong threads, how bad are you at this. We've pretty much said all that there is to be said anyway. There was endless general threads since the game came out and you're just NOW getting around to raiding?

>>723510919
>>723500235
I never completed the bestiary, is it ever explained what Nuu's deal is or her relation to Unn?

POSHANKA

Hornet says Trans Rights.

>>723500235
I like how her research is actually culinary

>Erase our fear,
>Eliminate our desire,
>To suffer no more,
>Void, cleanse us.

So the Weavers are responsible for that, too.

>Trobbio dives under the floor for the fifty millionth time
>burn damage kills him
>softlock
I hate this stupid fuck so much

Can you?

man i love how the game has lots of stupid cute moments and interactions they didn't need to add

>>723513294
wholesome chungus moment

As mentally ill as actual trannies

Shartsongsissies...

>>723513450
as? more like ASS

Damn straight

really disappointing that the TC once again pulled the "oops haha we disappeared" shit with the Weavers

Hornet's spider visions kept teasing a Weaver zone full of spider webs where you have to climb really really high and then just.. never followed up on it anywhere in the game. and no, climbing for 15s in the Cradle does not count

>>723513673
Weaver Path of Pain soon tm

>>723505110
literally me

>>723513673
what do you mean they disappeared? You literally play as one

>>723514113
Hornet's a Weaver the same way the Knight is a Pale Being (in other words, being a mutt doesn't count)

>>723489813
COME ON AND SLAM

>>723504283
HAAAAW

>>723510594
>tumblrtranny nonsense

>>723511031
>"Silksong sucks, but how can I make this about those DAMN DIRTY Fromdrones?!"
Shazamtranny really thought he was being slick

>>723513240
>In case you didn't know, Knight (the protagonist of the first game) falls under the trans umbrella
Fucking how?

>>723510594
But the only gay couple was a yaoi one, and you can murder the surviving half and rip out his heart.

>>723489546
SHUT THE FUCK UP
I'M TALKING TO MY BOYFRIEND

>>723513673
That's the Cradle. Hornet is communing with Grand Mother Silk in those scenes.

>>723514681
dont take the bait

>>723496519
Nah ur just rose tinted cause hk1 was first in the series and a chill ride but I am replaying hk1 and while the movement is really fun still the enemies all suck. Like how did I ever die in this game levels of brain dead after silksong. I'm near the end and I've died once.
Loot rewards are better in hk1 though

>>723512876
>is it ever explained what Nuu's deal is or her relation to Unn
After Goku beat Unn he wished for him to come back as a better person and that ended up actually happening, he was reincarnated as Nuu

>>723513673
These take place in the dreams of Silk

>>723515287
Hehehe

>>723506765
What's the third one on the very good category?

>>723512876
>I never completed the bestiary, is it ever explained what Nuu's deal is or her relation to Unn?
Nope. She thanks you, says there are more lands to catalogue, and vanishes from the world.

>>723514810
>>723515328
>communicating with Grand Mother Silk
>the platforming within the dreams really forces you to climb and climb
>arrive to the actual real place where Grand Mother Silk is
>the platforming takes like 20s and it's done
lame.

>>723515481
Shell Satchel

>>723515481
Shell Satchel. You can only get it in Steel Soul. Increases the magazine capacity for tools (it's equivalent to two tool pouch upgrades, extending past the upper bound of 4 tool pouches to effectively 6 if your tool pouches are maxed)

>>723513597
Built for BHC (Big Hornet Cross-stitch)

>>723515565
>>723515739
Thanks!

>>723513240
>everything with no gender is a tranny
I can read I just don't project myself on everything

>>723496519
>due the iframe dodge, had more of a bullet hell feeling

>more sekiro like combat system
>Gauntlet, adds spawned, environmental hazards

iq?

>>723515748
Hornet only fucks Heracross

>>723515524
You've never had a dream where you're climbing a flight of stairs or walking down a hallway that seems to go on forever?

>>723513126
Responsible for what exactly?

MARRY

IMPREGNATE

>>723516560
dat abdomen

>>723516560
You wouldn't survive.

>>723516516
Honestly, no?
Slow motion moving or bring pulled like in a river but never yours. I finally lost teath after 3 decades.

Somehow the Needolin is way more intrusive than the Knight slapping NPCs with the Dream Nail.

>>723516560
>Quick, we need a strong woman fighter!
>Uh... Just throws rings and teleports!

>>723484539
I saw a theory that SHAW is a slur and she doesn't say it in Silksong because she grew out of it.

>>723516751
yeah the dreamnail was like a quick and secret insight into what the bugs might think, needolin is hornet puppeteering bugs into dancing & singing for her which is kinda weird

>>723516891
>girl named Shakra
>fights by using Chakrams
Not particularly creative

>>723509159
Just slap that bitch. It's canon that it's only petting.

look at my wife go!

>>723488986
No. There are only 3 in the whole game and they are all in different spots.

Finished Silksong. I liked it overall but honestly I am exhausted by it and the story & lore didn't grab me the way I expected it would. Cogwork Core is best area because of the music.

Also FUCK Broodmother, I struggled with her so much. All the bosses like Broodmother kept filtering me, I'd rather fight a hundred Widows than have to face a fat blob unpredictably hurling itself around a tiny arena.

It’s been awhile since I’ve done this but I might actually play this game again. It’s actually really good.

>>723517164
I'm at 86 hours and still have a ton of Act 3 to do. How in the hell are you supposed to 100% this game in under 30 hours without save scumming?

>>723516889
She really is her mother's daughter...

>>723517498
A Steel Soul run is a perfect excuse, especially because it has a sprinkling of new content.

It really wasn't that hard. I just put on poisoned tacks and used them all on the last big guy duo.

>>723509967
Oh my god I love trans gamers
Trans rights are human rights!!!!

>>723484393 (OP)
yennara

>>723518634
I summoned Shakra and did it first try with her.

>>723516373
Take for example first sinner. That's a great fight, frantic, but fair. Compare this to sister splinter. Lame thorns, extremely simple 3 hit swipe attack. You just see that they were like shit we don't know what other moves to add, let's add some adds. There's tons of bosses like that, hell from the top of my head there's 3 bosses that share the same horizontal swipe move. It's just a tedious game desu, like it's tired.

this may be a retarded question but doesn't act 3 get solved by Hornet just... doing nothing?

GMS is hanging onto dear life with her silk threads, which are all over Pharloom. and the Void is consuming her and her threads, so it's grabbing onto Pharloom
however we see in the Lost Lace fight that GMS is rapidly losing all her remaining silk. she is on the brink of losing her grip and can't really holy back the Void once she runs out of silk. she's about to get swallowed up by the Void along with Lace
and as we see in the ending, GMS being consumed by the Void doesn't actually do anything bad to Pharloom. her threads just vanish, the Void doesn't eat Pharloom

knowing that, couldn't Hornet just wait a few hours for GMS to run out of strength/silk? GMS and Lace would get eaten by the Void, the threads that are letting the Void enter Pharloom would vanish, and Pharloom would be fine. the situation would sort itself out on its own

>>723519030
Silk’s silk is gone because most of it is in the cocoon surrounding her and Lace. Her strength is faded as a result but it’s far from clear that she’s about to completely fail. Meanwhile, Lace is becoming deeply voided, her rage is resonating with the Void and accelerating the destruction as she herself becomes claimed by it as a vessel (hence Lost Lace, the void isn’t killing her it’s makin her more powerful). Hornet went down there to kill Lace because her rage was causing Pharloom’s destruction. The Snail Shamans themselves say that shit went south because they didn’t predict Lace intervening and getting sucked into the trap with Silk, and Hornet ponders whether Silk is really prepared to let the entire kingdom perish just to protect Lace, knowing that if Silk just collapsed the cocoon and let the Void consume them whole, it wouldn’t have a chance to fill Lace and resonate with her.

>>723519335
>kill Lace
Or save her. I actually forget which is Hornet’s stated goal. Either way it amounts to the same, Lace can’t be ALIVE down there because her connection to the Void is what’s causing everything to go sideways.

>>723517635
I'm on my second playthrough and I didn't even try for it and I still had several hours to spare. I just kind of remembered where most secret passages and stuff were. Saving and quitting does help a lot before you get the bell beast but it's really not necessary. Now the five hour one is the one that scares me lol.

>>723509967
fucker trooned out

>>723517635
Remember, “100%” just means finishing Act 3 with all character upgrades. Anything that doesn’t
>count toward unlocking or completing Act 3
>reward a silk heart, mask shard, or spool fragment
>reward a tool
>upgrade the nail
Just doesn’t matter (maybe all maps matters too IDK). You can 100% the game without completing all quests, beating all bosses, finishing all challenges, finding all areas of the map, talking to all NPCs, etc.

It’s a very loose notion of “100%”

>>723519335
but even if Lace is becoming voided, what danger does that pose to Pharloom? the Void doesn't threaten Pharloom by weaponizing Lace, it threatens Pharloom by having a grip on GMS's threads. and once GMS sinks, the Void's grip on Pharloom is gone. i don't see why interacting with Lace is required at all, just let them both sink and Pharloom is freed

I just want NG+ so I can mess around with all the crests and tools.

>>723519030
>>723520001
Hornet has no idea how long that Silk can hold on. It could be hours, it could be years. As long as Lace is alive and stuck down there, she'll devote every last drop of her being into holding on. During the fight, Silk seems to be degrading further, but this is probably due to the disturbance caused by the fight between Hornet and Lace, and probably also Silk's worries intensifying as you beat the shit out of her daughter.

>>723520282
what i'm hearing is yes, Hornet could've dropped a few pimpillos and poison buzzsaws down at GMS to knock her out. the Void would gobble GMS and Lace up, and Pharloom would be freed

>>723519501
>Now the five hour one is the one that scares me lol.
It's really fucking easy once you know about the alt entrance into The Mist. I died probably 20-30 times and still had 2 hours to spare.

>>723493403
pizza

>>723509886
FRIEREN!

>>723520001
>what danger does that pose to Pharloom?
She states explicitly that Lace raging and tantruming down there is WHY the void is destroying Pharloom. That if Lace hadn’t been down there kicking up an angry ruckus, the constant voidquakes wouldn’t be happening, the void possessions would stop.

>Silk’s threads
I don’t think so. The aesthetics parallel one another to be sure, but we see the void tendrils spring up from the ground in the cinematic. They don’t just seep across the silk that already exists, they’re new things.

>>723517635
>How in the hell are you supposed to 100% this game in under 30 hours
By save scumming
And by already having beaten the game so you're used to the gameplay, and by planning your route which usually involves beelining for clawline and double jump as soon as possible and then just clearing out every area one by one.

>>723520896
>Hornet could've dropped a few pimpillos and poison buzzsaws down at GMS to knock her out.
GMS was inside a silk cocoon under hundreds of feet of abyssal slime. So how, exactly, could she do that?

>>723517635
>How in the hell are you supposed to 100% this game in under 30 hours without save scumming?
By remembering where almost everything is so you spend much less time figuring out puzzles and map layouts, and also by beating almost every boss and platforming challenge in one or just a few tries instead of dying ten times to shit like the act 1 crow ambush or last judge

>>723506765
I fucking love dice, man. Literally saved my winning attempts against Lost Lace and final Coral Tower wave

>>723496519
never understood why people like bullet hell in platformers or sidescrollers (terraria mod niggers especially). it always ends up shittier than an actual bullet hell and worse than most other ways to add difficulty/complexity.

>>723484393 (OP)
Just did the gourmand wish or whatever it's called for the 4th oil, still waiting for the game to be fun, 32 hrs in. This is the moat over tuned and poorly communicated game I've ever played, I'd be so fucking mad if I'd spent the last seven years actually hyped for it.

>>723524238
Save yourself and drop thr game tbqh you won't like what's in store then

Their love is so pure

>>723524350
it's really the only logical pairing...

>>723509065
>The grand mother fight was lame
She's supposed to be lame and underwhelming, she's the fakeout final boss. The Hollow Knight was the same way in the first game

>>723524238
>4th oil
big mistake. now the rest of the game is going to be even more piss easy
just uninstall

>>723524596
>She's supposed to be lame and underwhelming
silksong fans, everyone

>>723524331
>>723524659
Afraid I'm susceptible to sunken cost, I'm gonna endure it and either find the fun or smugly declare Team Cherry are a bunch of negligent fixated autists whenever it comes up moving forward.

>>723524238
>poorly communicated
The only thing I had problems with were all the breakable walls and hidden passages but that's because I personally suck ass at finding that stuff so it's a personal failing. Everything else was fine.

>>723525961
The hidden walls are fine for me, I'm talking for example the double jump, I'm sure if you know its there on subsequent runs you can get to it quickly, but I only found it at like 28 hrs - having something so essential to movement and combat tucked away in a corner of the map, that late with no direction or hint to bait the player towards it, is unacceptable. And the chill effect of the mountain pushed me away from the zone since I assumed I needed to find an item to nullify the effect first, so me being thoughtful was rewarded with misdirection, ipso facto they're shit at communicating.

I was off the nets and even did a replay before silksong came out. Amazing game, I was surprised how much it filteted /v/. I thought It looked like the most modern day /v/ coded game ever. Maybe Its only sin was due to Its popularity. Clawline and red tools were fun. Crest/tool is better than charm (fragile strength + quick slash literally dwarfs everything else in HK). A case of the sequel took so long, the fans started to look at the game through rose tinted glasses

>>723526351
The game already communicated to you that you needed the double jump, so that's on you for not being curious enough to venture out to see how far you could get.

>>723526351
The game already communicated to you that you needed the clawline, so that's on you for not being curious enough to venture out to see how far you could get.

ZAAAYAAArrRRAAAYAAA

>>723526613
>>723526738
is there anything that points you towards the mountain for the double jump? Baring in mind you don't even know its a mountain at first, just an area at the edge of the map that damages you - none of that communicates double jump.

>>723500235
nuuuuuuu nuuuu nu nuuuu moolanoolanuuu

WHERE

IS

THE

DLC

>>723526834
You're hyperfixated on the double jump specifically which is dumb. There's nothing to indicate you'll get Thread Storm from Greymoor after beating the craw gauntlet, or Needolin from beating Widow, or clawline from going down into the Underworks, or many other abilities, tools, and upgrades. What the game communicates to you is it's a new area you haven't been to that needs a traversal mechanic (clawline) so you explore to see what you get. There are very few times something is telegraphed to you and it's almost always in act 1 where things are more guided before they open the game up in act 2.

>>723500235
I wish I fucking knew that this dumb bitch gave you hints where some enemies might be earlier

>>723526873
i want them to fix act 3 first a bit or i wont trust them

>>723526986
She only does that for two optional bosses that are easily missed, everything else is up to you.

>>723527006
Act 3 DLC is what makes it better thughbeit

>>723526357
The only thing rose is my estrogen pills, fellow troonsong appreciator

>>723526979
The Needolin is fine; it's a key not a combat tool: you're told by the pilgrims at the door to the citadel you need to play an instrument to open it, and the weaver bitch in Bellheart is playing an instrument when you encounter her earlier. I just wish they cared to talk to the player like that elsewhere, like the double jump, which I'm using as an example because it's the worst lapse of design and direction I've seen in a long time, maybe ever for such a highly produced game.

>>723520001
Act 3 is not supposed to make sense bro the Devs couldn't even finish the lore for act 2
>Oh teehee let me randomly go to the void oh yep there it is and now I have no diving bell to return oops

>>723527407
Way to take one specific point and hyperfixate on it to avoid everything else in the argument, anon. Almost thought you were being genuine for a second.

>>723517635
my first file was 99 hours (lots of afking to make food though) and I can comfortably 100% in 15 hours or so even without planning stuff. It's just a lot faster once you know where everything is and how the fights work. I wouldn't worry about how long things take on your first playthrough. You should be taking your time and savouring it.

>>723527407
Double jump isn't needed to finish the game, unless you're doing act 3 in which cause you have to explore everything anyway.

>>723527530
Copy that!

>>723527465
i dont know why they obviously scrapped half the game only to half ass the lore and leave obvious slop sub plots in the game like the verdania stuff

>replay the game
>absolutely MOG everything I used to have trouble with a basic needle and 5 health all the way to the end if Act 2

How is this possible bros?

So uh whats the point of the pilgrimage? Are the best pilgrims supposed to climb up the laces garden and... Die to her? Whats the deal with that?

>>723527530
I am being genuine, I don't think Threadstorm is very important, but I wish the clawline was accessed in act 01 for how important it is in combat, same with the double jump and grip: an act 01 spent assembling Hornets mechanically critical moveset would be a better act 01 and set up for a better game overall, instead of say the sprint, which has very limited traversal and combat use but is somehow the reward for deep docks.

>>723527898
I only agree with Clawline showing up earlier

I think at this point I believe its the DEFINING moveset of Silksong
Like its most iconic and best ability

>check patch notes
>Slightly reduced threadstorm damage
>Checks tests
>-38%
AIEEEEEE

>>723528119
silktroonies will defend this

>>723527979
the claw, grip dash and DJ are the fundamentals of keeping hornet airborne in fights and traversal, which is how Cherry wants you to play, but they leave them too long instead we're wasting time either looking for them with no direction or unlocking the fucking float cloak and sprint first.

>>723527898
I agree with having all movement options at the end of act 1
Makes no sense getting a new core movement option 30h into the game
It also sucks not having clawline when every boss just teleports away after every attack

>>723484585
I liked cornifers hum more desu

>>723528119
Classic team jewrry

>>723528119
Get flukemarm'd ;)

>>723527872
No ordinary pilgrim is meant to make it that far, only someone strong enough to defeat Silk herself.

As a parryfag in souls games the fact that the parry skill is optional as well and tucked away in the backdoor to act 2 makes me personally cry.

So do the developers hire voice actors and just tell them to speak gibberish? Sounds fun

>>723528658
Then what's the point of the pilgrimage? Strong characters like shakra ignore it
Also you're wrong, in game it is stated that the pilgrimage is a core part of the citadel , they need it to keep silk contained. Go back to twitter to talk about a game you're not playing faggot .

>>723528709
It's actually all ai generated except shakra

>>723528854
The ordinary pilgrims get filtered into underworks, or at best, become a low rank member of one of chorus. The aspect of assembling the songs is something only someone strong enough to defeat Silk would do.
You are getting angry because you think you know things about the game, but you do not, and you are being exposed. Please calm down and don't be so pointlessly angry over your own failings.

>>723528915
but HK came out before i crap

>>723528694
The real parry skill exists from the start of the game, anon

>>723528854
>game you're not playing
Irony of you saying this
Shakra is only in Pharloom to follow the trail of her master, who was just exploring a new land. Later, she builds a desire to protect the people she has met (similar to Hornet) which is why she guards Bellhart in act 3. This is a very basic aspect of her character that she communicates directly to you very early on. Try actually talking to characters multiple times.

>>723529036
Factually incorrect as stated by in-game Loam. Get lost faggot.

>>723528854
shakra tells you early on that she's just after her master and that she has no interest in the citadel
that's a complete red herring of an example and exposes that you just gleaned bits of information to use for shitposting purposes

>>723509967
It's always a tragedy seeing cute twinks ruin themselves.

>>723529182
>>723528854
>>723527872
>his tranny spam failed
>now this is his newest attempt
people used to be good at derailing threads
you should really work on your skills. You're too obvious.

>>723529167
Okay what about you actually talk to shakra the first time you meet her?

>>723529208
And she says she has no interest on the citadel because... ? Well, go on, it's on her dialogue. Finish the sentence, oh so highly troons.

>>723529182
loam's existence corroborates the point that other anon was making so it's kinda weird you'd bring it up

W to the spammer for actually playing the game tho

Damn got him

>>723529093
If you're referring to hitting their attacks, that's a deflection. Parries are for ripostes and my erection, which is what the Phantom skill does.

>>723529405
he clearly hasn't played the game though because his information is incomplete and contextually wrong. It's the sort of stuff you'd get if you just ask an AI to answer for you.

>>723529401
>Loam wants to see the citadel
>Has never been to the citadel
>Somehow completed his pilgrimage to the citadel
Fuck off.

>>723529332
>oh so highly troons
You're so mad you can't even type in English lmao
She calls it a ghastly place and elaborates no further. You don't even know which conversation prompts her to mention this.

gay praying mantis.

>>723529498
non sequitar and unrelated to the original point

the gay praying mantis the biggest plothole that lore heads can't rationalize...

Next time you try to ragepost, actually do your research, anon.
This was a pretty poor showing.

>>723529649
Gay praying mantis?

>uuh I don't have an answer so...I won! Haha!
Pathetic. Also go on, tell me how you're ignoring how the hermit shaman and the dead vaultkeeper both mention the pilgrims song being used to keep silk bound. I'm waiting.

The dlc will be feeding the budding parasite to Sherma.

>>723529731
bro doesnt even know enough context rip...

Actually hornet herself mentioned the bugs that captured her in hallownest were being controlled by the haunting (so, by silk)
I always thought the conductors needed her for her silk, as silk is shown to bind, so presumably to keep silk contained and redo her bindings
Either that or so feed their lavish lifestyles with silk injections
What I don't get is why the weavers passed them the burden of keeping silk contained to the conductors willingly , and then the conductors turned around and started rounding up weavers offsprings

spammer won...

gay mantis won
Double jump lost
Clawline on suicide watch

Mejina fora...

Why didnt she say shaw

>>723484393 (OP)
Just beat Lost Lace (barely)
95%
66 hours 40 minutes.
Whew, what a rush

I want Hollow Knight 3 to be about the Moth clan trying to revive the radiance, leading to a moment with the Hollow Knight and Moth Mommy like pic related

Man this game is so big that it's becoming tiring knowing I'll have to come back to some of these areas later for quests. If they were gonna copy DS they could at the very least give us a bench warp, even if it's late game.

>>723531107
Congrats
Now do Lost Sinner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz78Cj9jD08

>>723532874
No thanks, I'll leave that and the inevitable boss rush dlc to the autists.
Doesn't actually look that bad, though.

>>723503874
did the weavers cut off her legs and replace them with a golden slingshot, or was she born that way?

>>723524238
You should quit, you haven't even gotten to the intentionally shitty zone yet.

>>723533430
Don't think she had legs in the first place what with her being able to levitate

>>723496519
Bullet hell games generally don't have i-frames.

>>723533127
It's as easy as GMS

>>723533769
Bro your bombs?

>>723509647
N O L D O R
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>>723532404
you get a fast(er) travel option in act 3

I find it interesting that there are wishes in the game that dont give you any rewards

They literally just exist to drive home the idea of helping the pilgrims of pharloom

>Shartsong threads are so dead now that they need shitposters, spammers and raiders to keep the thread alive, and even then the thread is just dying
El mao

>>723506751
Shaman with voltwyrm filament absolutely shreds.

>>723536316
Someone's flicking their neobeans to this right now...

>>723536398
The artist for this is a troon btw

>>723507194
All three of those suck dick.

There way too much lace hornet yurishit now

>>723536498
Troonsong fanbase consists of trannies, what were you expecting?

>>723536718
Many are experiencing this.

>>723528119
how much did cross stitch get buffed by

need moar PKposting

>>723509803
In a sense, you're full of shit. You don't always have to use the absolute most OP bullshit there is unless you're a shitter.

>>723536938
I will never understand metafagging in a single player game. The whole point is find your own fun, not complete against other players

>>723516560
>girl
>man voice