Thread 723501169

>>723501169 (OP)
Good. Movement speed was retardedly too fast. They need to fix the shitty recoil bloom too.

>>723501169 (OP)
so they un-nerfed it after nerfing if from the beta then they want to nerf it again?
this game's going to be unrecognizable 1 month from now
balance-slop

>>723501169 (OP)
>trying to please everyone
Why do they always fall for this trap? Just pick a side nigga.

>>723501169 (OP)
Isn’t this problem exactly what skill based matchmaking is for? But people constantly bitch and moan about it

>>723501694
yes, sbmm basically solves this problem but streamer fags convinced their 12 year old favela monkey viewers to complain enough to have it removed

>>723501694
Skill based matchmaking is shit and drained a lot of fun out of videogames though

As a millennial i bow to the zoomer battlegod with his superior reflexes and stronger muscles, us oldies just can't compete with youth

>>723501169 (OP)
Isn't the obvious answer to keep the classic feel? Why would you want Battlefield to feel another Apex Legends or Call of Duty? Why compete with them when you already got a built in audience that's been playing you game for over twenty years?

>>723501169 (OP)
their still going to be faster then them, just kys old man

this is why I play singleplayer games

>balancing around the players who are quickly leaving gaming
the AAA are truly amazing at displaying new levels of incompetence

>>723501169 (OP)
Why would they do this before BO7 comes out? It makes more sense to focus on your battle royale launch and see what BO7 does to your playerbase

BO7 for example timed their announcements for matchmaking to a day before BF6’s launch to grab more attention. This sounds like they’re going to go through a balancing nightmare leading up to BO7

...battledads?

>>723503215
40yo-50+ boomers with "very busy lives", who post whiny rants on the internet about how all games need to cater to them (casualize and streamline everything)

>>723501694
Zoomers only like it when they're the only ones that have it. The purpose is not to have a fun with a fast game, but to have a special advantage that they can use to stomp everyone else. This is why whenever an actually fast game gets made, zoomers stay away from it.

I don't have an issue with movement tech but it feels so out of place in some of these games and that's when I don't like it. if you're going to add it just go all the way and add rocket jumping and all kinds of bullshit

>>723503215
Dads who blame Fortnite and COD for sucking at shooters now and you’re a zoomer (everyone younger than you) if you disagree

doesnt this have crossplatform between PC and consoles?
there cant be a balance

I think a game called battlefield should try to make the gunfights more "true" to life where soldiers take and hold positions carefully as opposed to having soldiers zooming around sprinting,mario-jumping over the enemies and clearing buildings by holding the sprint key because it's easier to be the one bumrushing people than to be the one trying to track the enemy's spastic movement while getting mag dumped in the face because you're stationary

>>723503215
anyone older than a zoomer who also doesn't like the ADHD movement meta

>>723501169 (OP)
Fags, don't ads and you can listen for jumps and aim up.

>>723504038
its also completely incoherent chaos as a result of this and the 3 second respawn timers that arent even in waves so players just get in the game as fast as possible instead of having big waves of players running into battle together after like it used to be

Dedicated servers would instantly solve this issue but you faggots don't want to admit it.

>>723501694
No, SBMM is to psychologically rape players into purchasing more skins by carefully doling out wins and losses.

>>723503485
This. Otherwise tribes would be alive.

>>723501169 (OP)
Yeah if they keep the "run around with and smg or m4 and blast some one at 5 meters" gameplay it might as well be cod.

>>723504202
BF6 doesn’t have dedicated servers?

>>723503321
When I was a kid boomer dads were playing multiplayer games like diablo 2, avp2, quake and shit and never bitched like these new old people do.

>>723501694
>>723502136
>>723504216
Gamers are too stupid for SBMM. They get a fair matchmaking system with 50/50 win rates and complain how the matchmaking is actually rigged and how "forced 50" is a thing. In reality 50% win rate means the games are balanced and the system is working as it should.

>>723501169 (OP)
>game reads the age you've put in and you are sorted into zoomer lobbies or dadgamer lobbies
>forced voice chat so smurf zoomers pretending to be older will be outed and kicked

>>723504475
My dad never stopped bitching ever. Some gamers are just bitchmade and its not a generational thing.

I hate current dadgamers

playing manhattan conquest on nato side genuinely made me feel miserable
how the fuck did they not fix vehicle spawns after a week

>>723504490
If you actually believe the devs dont put their fingers on the scale to fuck with your head you are out of your mind.

>>723504360
no
you can """"host"""" a portal server on EA's servers but the total amount of them is limited so they're all taken up by bot xp farms

>>723501169 (OP)
Why don't zoomers play quake if they are so autistic about "movement"

>>723504852
>>723503485

>>723501169 (OP)
This just in zoomers zooming into boomer assholes at record speed

>>723504852
quake is old so it's bad

>>723504614
>playing conquest when Escalation exists and has more vehicles

>>723504567
He was a minority back then, if he wasn't they would've started casualizing games way earlier.

Seeing how zoomers and alphas are movement junkies, do you guys think proper competitive games like Quake could get a comback?

I'm milenial, but i hated how my gen in general could only handle Counter Strike and other baby shit like that

Don't give a shit about muh movement. If you have any brain whatsoever you know the correct way to play is smoke nades to cover your advance + spydrone in the sky giving you wallhacks. Nothing zoomers can do when they can't see you while you can see them.

>>723504475
Millenials are a generation of soft (literal) faggots.

>>723504490
Activision has patents describing match-making systems that that are designed to entice players to spend more on microtransactions. Do you trust Activision to be honest when they claim that the systems aren't being implemented?

Good. If you want ADHD sliding wallrunning parkour go play Black Ops 7

>>723504692
Retard.

>>723502876
It's more to it than nerfing movement from Zoomerfield 6.

>>723505553
I dont play Activision Shit but If my matchmaking was fucked and I noticed I wouldn't be playing that game. Just saying.

>>723505494
I have gotten an ungodly amount of use out of this image.

>unc cant keep up
>devs bend over backwards and fuck over their game

The game is already slow though, and redditors were claiming BATTLEFIELD IS BACK because of it. Now it's not slow enough?

>>723505964
uncs are the ones with the money. zoomers are all broke

>>723504490
you are clueless, 'forced 50%' is cause game gives you high elo but matches you with retards on your team, not with people of the same elo/skill - you are not climbing up, you are being dragged down

>>723505151
arena shooters are too skill-based and that's not what they want, it's like trying to get new players in fighting games. most people don't want to get raped over and over

Genuinely speaking, what is a better alternative to skill based matchmaking? A completely random one? Is that what some people prefer?

This seems very, very retarded. A completely random matchmaking would create way more very imbalanced matches, is those what people want to play?

>>723504852
Because it's dead.

>>723501169 (OP)
why would zoomers be better at movement tech than boomers? zoomers dont know what bunnyhopping is

>>723504692
The only time that I think they might deliberately try to tip the scales is in the first few matches to make you win. I think Bungie said that 50% of the people who lose their first PvP match never play PvP again.
After that I don't know if there's a better way to try and make you spend money on microtransactions other than trying to make you play the game as much as possible. And for that I imagine having people play matches that are as close as possible is the best way to do that. But maybe I'm just naive. I'm sure there are numerous studies done on how to keep a gambling addict playing that could apply to games as well.

>>723506312
ye

>>723506387
Pissennials can't even figure out a basic jump map.

>>723506312
>i need every game to be the same by playing against people exactly equal to my skill or ITS NOT FAIR

zoomers ruined videogames

>>723501620
But line must go up.

>>723501169 (OP)
Go play COD you retarded zoomgroid

>>723503215
I am a battledad and I want no game balanced around me. No one balanced Quake when I was bunny hopping at warp speed one shotting slow gen x retards with the rail gun

>>723504852
Quake doesn't actually have that much interesting movement tech
You just jump around and spin your mouse to go fast

>>723506505
>After that I don't know if there's a better way to try and make you spend money on microtransactions other than trying to make you play the game as much as possible.
Match you with players using default cosmetics and against those with premium cosmetics, then after you make any microtransaction stack your team against bad ones. A few companies have published whitepapers about this.

The end result.

>>723505883
the birth control pill was approved for sale in 1960

>>723505883
>millienials groomed a bunch of kids into being faggots
Useful graph indeed.

>>723501169 (OP)
Movement wasn't nerfed, it was brought back to a similar level that the battlefield series always had.
If you want to bunny hop and zoom around the map like a coked up rabbit then play one of the many games that are like that. Fortnite, apex, call of duty, etc

>>723504490
Even if that's the intent purpose, who the fuck likes that? Who the fuck wants to hop on a game and go "wow I can't wait to sweat my ass off to go even and lose every other match".
The fun is getting good and stomping shitters, not getting exclusively matched with other turbonerds and occasionally sabotaged by the matchmaker when you win too many games and get put on a drooler team.

>>723504268
Tribes isn't the fucking zoomers. It's the retards who think slow games are good, who grew up on Halo and are in their 30's that got all those games killed. Aka you.

>>723506312
Yes, some people like unpredictability and matches where one side completely collapses and is decisively defeated where you can role play as a hero fighting a last stand which happens less often under skill based matching making systems.

>>723507043
>>723506929
Case in point. Terrible retards who want special medal games are not the children, it's your shitty generation.

>>723506312
DEDICATED SERVERS JESUS CHRIST WE SOLVED THIS ISSUE 20 YEARS AGO

>>723506892
zoomies enjoyed it

>>723504536
Haven't bought the game because of the TPM thing but why the fuck would BF6 have lobbies? I thought Battlefield was the last refuge of the dedicated server.

>>723504852
No guns to main or customize.

Literally just remove prone, sliding, and diving.
Zero reason for those to even exist.

>>723506940
Big Vidya and SBMM segregated the autists from the normies to keep the normies happy and spending money. Thats the truth. The main benefactors of SBMM are shitters who need a free win. The big losers are the giga-autists who have to carry them.

>>723504268
>>723507043
Still pissed to this day that Tribes got pigeonholed as the "skijump game" that led to shit like the "revival" being 4v4 when the entire reason it got popular was that it was the first multiplayer game that had 32+player matches.

>>723501694
The problem is SBMM is an illusion and it's all about forcing you to lose 50% of your games.

wtf do zoomers have to do with this?

If your game has a movement problem take it up with the devs and the intended identity of the game

>>723507172
This. Just give people dedicated servers and have movement speed be a mutator. I personally think BF should default to a slower movement speed because otherwise what's the point of jeeps and motorcycles.

The fastest games were played by Gen X and early millennials.
>quake
>UT

Zoomers are committing stolen valor saying they play faster fps online.

>>723507539
This is exclusively because of Hirez's fetishistic obsession with E-sports.

>>723506827
Are people really more likely to buy cosmetics if they lose against people who already have them? If anything I feel like I'm more likely to stop playing. But obviously I have no data to back that up, even for myself.

>>723506312
user hosted dedicated servers

Basically the oldest gaming demographic are millennials. Insofar as there's any that're older they're a very small minority. As someone who's 34 it fucking disgusts me how people my age LARP like they're 70 years old when they're playing games. The ones that act like this are gaming "adjacent" losers who watch clips of cheating tranny children with Cronus Zen plugins and are too stupid to realize it. I have a group of friends who play shooters maybe a few months out of the year all in my age range and we top score consistently just because we aren't the sub sentient hordes that make up the vast majority of online multiplayer games.

>>723507539
>entire reason it got popular was that it was the first multiplayer game that had 32+player matches.
>>723507662
Every game does this. It drives me up the wall. There are no casual lobby shooters with 30 people in them anymore. Furthermore you can't use the voice chat or you get your money stolen

>>723501169 (OP)
This is what happens when you try even harder to make your game like cod. The game should have never had ADHD movement in the first place

>>723507640
They did, but nobody wants to play the game with retarded mutators, so all of the crusty fags whine about even having the option to do matchmaking. The dedicated server fag does not want options, he wants force you to engage in his faggotry.

the ideal codnigger game would force you to play at 55 fov like MW2 and BO2, would only let you shuffle in four directions or crawl because MW2 and BO2 were realistic tactical shooters and movement is for the zoomer wojak boogeyman, it would have a completely serious realistic military look but with epic dude weed lmao skins because those are okay since they were in MW2 and BO2, a matchmaking system designed specifically to make the average single digit iq codnigger believe he's constantly pubstomping other retards, and they still wouldn't play it because it wouldn't give them what they actually want which is to return to their peak of normalfaggotry in highschool before they became bitter failed normalfags
and yes i'm talking about codniggers because anyone who has actually played a battlefield game before (and not on console at 55 fov) will tell you that BF6 on its beta was the slowest game in the series since BF3 (the first codified BF game) so all the crying about movement being too fast is coming from retarded codniggers having the same meltdown they've been having ever since advanced warfare forced them to aim up once or twice 11 years ago

>>723503321
I'm pretty sure it's the zoomers and twitchers who bitch and complain about games not being perfectly catered for their kino montages. I just want to play the game and for dice to stop fucking around with it.

sounds like a consolefag problem

>>723507660
It’s more of slander due to Fortnite and modern cod being fast paced (assuming that’s cod’s main demographic)

>>723504038
That's what your niche milsims are for. Go play arma and hell let loos if you want to pretend you're in the military, faget

>>723504490
To be fair the forced 50% is more about forcing it to be 50% rather than it being naturally 50%. People are immediately matched either with worse teammates or against better opponents the moment they have a string of victories but since they're not THAT good they immediately get pushed back into 50%. A number of games (MOBAs especially) have hard-to-escape low-rank queues where both a player's teammates and their opponents are not skilled but since it's a team-based game it's still essentially a forced 50% from the lack of impact they have (they're only 1 player) unless they somehow manage to pull through such as using noobstomper characters, but chances are they get matched against other people in a similar situation, and people can end up in that situation in the first place just from an unlucky string of rank placement games. I think Valve has been experimenting with involving character skill with things such as metrics for kills, objectives, income etc. but their competitive games aren't really worth playing except for TF2.
>>723506312
When you're put up against completely random people you're way more likely to learn shit from the pros and when you're good at the game you are rewarded with the satisfaction of showing off your skills to players who aren't as skilled. If anything it highlights the fact that, aside from the victory condition, a game is pretty much devoid of avenues of being fun so it has to resort to manipulating people by giving them near-guaranteed strings of victories and losses and hoping they remember the victories so that they keep coming back for more. Drug addiction shit. I'm pretty sure TF2's casual matchmaking is completely random and it's working out fine.

>>723501169 (OP)
>Battlefield 6 is nerfing movement
I actually read the article and this is the exact opposite of what's happening. The movement was nerfed after beta and now they're looking to make it less clunky so perhaps it's going to be buffed a bit.

>AAAIIIEEEEEEE THE GAME IS MATCHING ME UP AGAINST PEOPLE OF SIMILAR SKILL LEVEL, THIS IS LITERALLY A CRIME
Why are you faggots like this?

>>723508276
Nice, How much does EA pay per post?

>>723503321
This doesn't make any sense though. Boomer shooter gamers have played fast games, and if they played any CoD game of the last 2 decades they know how that gameplay works. if this is how the devs see it they're gonna fuck up hard, stuck on culture war brainrot they don't even understand. ludicrous

>>723501568
devs know that by just toggling between two states every few months it looks like they're doing something, but they actually not accomplishing anything

>>723507480
>Prone
You're a battledad with shit reaction time

>>723508492
There's more to a match than just the final outcome like being a total blowout or fighting for an comeback or just fooling around with friends and getting each other killed.

>>723501694
I want to win
I want to win always
I am the only character that matters

>>723508543
>you have to be an EA shill to read the article and not be outrage baited by a misleading OP
Of course I assumed OP was a lying faggot because that's the norm.

Fastless, skilless, reflexless players should kill themselves.
t. 34yo

>>723506831
I hate how every modern shooter adds so much shit to saddle aiming skill
>recoil because it's not enough that the target is already moving, you have to move your gun back in place too
>aim spread because you can't be getting too good at it, let's make what shots hit RNG instead
>aim spread getting way worse when you move because it's realistic
>"hip-firing" having near-permanent shit aim unless you toggle on the Gamer-certified Aiming Down Sights Mode that messes up your view and gun turn speed
>all of this in games where you can shoot someone multiple times and they're fine until they hit 0 hp

>6K vehicle repairs in a match
Fuck this challenge

>>723501169 (OP)
>Battlefield 6 is nerfing movement because Zoomers are raping Battledads

Yeah, fuck those people who've been with Battlefield since the beginning and want the game to play like the original! Meanwhile in Battlefield 1942... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htoECneo3lM

>>723508732
All of this can and will happen in skill based matchmaking. Skill based MM doesn't guarantee balanced matches every single game, it just raises the chances of it happening.

>>723501169 (OP)
Tell the zoomers to go play a different game. Battlefield does not equal Overwatch, Valorant, or any of the dozens of hyper speed ADHD nonsense.

>>723509927
>valorant
>overwatch
>hyperspeed
Holy shit lmaooooo
This whole discussion is fucked for a couple reasons 1. The zoomer boomer dichotomy doesn't apply and 2. The games being reported as fast are NOT fast

>>723505553
>Activision has patents
This is EA

>>723510008
I don't fucking care. Go play a different game, you brocolli-haired retard

in Battlebit boomers were kvetching about zoomers being too fast too, reminder these faggots pretend they were good at arena shooters lmao

>>723506831
what's the difference

>>723501694
>sbmm
keep up grandpa, its Engagement optimized matchmaking now and its designed to lengthen play sessions now instead of create balanced lobbies.

>>723501169 (OP)
You always played female characters either way. Put. On. The. Dress.

>trannygamers are stomping dadgamers in PvP
holyshit. I'd love to see one of these lobbies.

>>723510459
Battlefield 5(2018) was the first game in the series to have female soldiers. There were 16 games before 5. Go fuck yourself.

the characters in FPS games move like weightless crackhead ragdolls

this is just arguing about whether solid shit or diarrhea is a better addition to the punchbowl

this game's biggest problem is the time-to-kill
its insanely long
there is no benefit to thinking or strategy in the game, all you have to do is move in a herd and plow towards an objective
if your herd gets ambushed you might die, but the rest of your herd will just whip around and kill the attacker then rez you. zero consequences

so fucking retarded
everything in this society caters to braindead brown animals

>>723510672
serious question, how do you improve/fix that?

>>723510992
I know how I would fix it, but it's way above the heads of developers in this industry

how could THEY do it? motion capture a bunch of dudes doing the maneuvers they want to depict, train an AI model on it, and have it spit out the common denominator

>>723510672
>this game's biggest problem is the time-to-kill
>it's insanely long

Did you mean short instead of long? I turn the corner, get gunned down in 1 attosecond, then I'm looking at the spawn screen screen wondering what the fuck just happened

>>723505883
and I do out of this one

the problem is being american.

>>723510346
It's boomers, Xers, and millennials paying for everything and the top three reasons for playing are "to have fun", "stress relief/relaxtion", and "to keep my mind sharp/exercise my brain". The sweaty troons of the "aim community" are ruining it for the most important players to the franchise.

>>723511573
Baby Boomers play Soliatire and Generation X play military simulations(Squad, Hell Let Loose, etcetera), not Battlebit, Cawwa Doody, and Battlefield. What are you talking about?

I'm 40 and I feel like I hold my own pretty decently. I've got a k/d of 2.2, which ain't great, but I don't use vehicles and almost exclusively go engineer with the lackluster AK-205.

>>723502228
How? Playing vs equally skilled players is the most fun

>>723511985
kudos that you're still playing mp against randoms. I'm 35 and gave up years ago, but I was always more of a cs guy and once the band split up I abandoned it as well. my favourite class based game will be enemy territory anyway.

>>723501169 (OP)
didnt boomerdads literally grow up on sprint-jumping around the map quake bullshit?

>>723508230
>People are immediately matched either with worse teammates or against better opponents the moment they have a string of victories
But they also get matched against shitty opponents so that the wins don't even feel rewarding because you know the algo gave you that win by giving the enemy the shitty players and your team the good players. Those games aren't fun either

>>723504475
maybe because back then games were actually good you dumb fuck

hope it gets review bombed now HAHAHAHA

>>723512240
Yes, but they're in their late 30s / early 40s now, not 13 when Unreal Tournament came out. Also, the Battlefield series started out as a slow game with none of this bunny hopping, sliding, aim-down-sights, ADHD nonsense, so all these complaining about the speed in BF6 just want the damn game to play like the original Battlefield games.

I didn't buy it because I don't want to play COD.

I still have good reflexes but fuck COD, fuck open weapon and fuck shit and small maps, and women soldiers (LOL).

>>723511969
Unfortunately according to the market research Battlefield 6 players trend older with 53% of players interested in buying being over 35. Are we really surprised the Battlefield is the battledad game?

>>723512195
you are not a gamer
get the fuck off my board

>>723512828
from my point of view, clinging onto the newest entry to an old shooter series is evil

>>723501169 (OP)
There is a terrible idea that you need equality of outcome. That every match should be a 50 50 coinflip of what side wins. This is boring, anti human, and anti skill. Either ID the battledads and put them in their own matchmaking bucket or just let them(me) get stomped.

I despise the fact most of my faggot generation played slow shooters like CS. I wanted movement.

>>723508032
Just go play Doom if you want to do maximum zoom zoom and kill everything all the time while dripped out.

>>723506061
Case in point.

>>723512804
Over 35 is mostly Millenials(oldest would be 44, youngest 29), not Generation X(45 and 60) and Baby Boomers(61 and 79). I highly doubt a 53 year old Gen X guy is playing Battlefield 6; they're probably playing a military simulator game.

>>723510061
>>723505794
Apex legends (Respawn, owned by EA) has the same type of "EOMM" (Engagement Optimized Matchmaking).
The documentation is out there and it's patented too. Anyone thinking sbmm still exists is at best completely uninformed.

>>723501568
similar thing happened in battlefield 3, but nostalgia won the day anyway. complaints about powerful vehicle... because they are supposed to be. nerfed their armor and repair into the ground. reduce LMG ammo, made everything recoil like crazy. its only a matter of time before 6 is nerfed too

I'm a new guy at my job and there was a conversation about BF6 beta among the menager caste.

>>723501169 (OP)
This is why games are shit now

>>723513861
Protip: do NOT reveal your power level. If someone asks you if you play video games, tell them "No"

>>723514060
No, the new Battlefields and especially 6 are shit because there's too much emphasis on infantry combat, not vehicle combat. Infantry combat was bad enough in some of the recent games, but now there's idiots sliding and sprinting all over the damn place like we're playing Apex Legends. Refer to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htoECneo3lM to see what the infantry combat was like in the first game

>>723514093
I know that already. I just said I played BF2 years ago and that's that.

>>723501169 (OP)
>because Zoomers are raping Battledads
lmao, it's the other way. Zoomers are getting upset that there's too much freedom unlike the cinemaslop they're used to

>challenges to unlock weapons

Fucking lmao, please tell you can at least do these in the bots matches. I am not buying an incomplete game full price. Next year maybe.

>>723501169 (OP)
battlefield wants to appeal to too many people at too many times. some people like sliding across the map in shooters, some don't. you will never be able to appeal to both. the bigger problem is battlefield used to be the casual mil sim game, less obtuse than real milsim games but with a more weighted combat feel. slidefags need to realize this.

>>723501169 (OP)
maybe they should just stop trying to be call of duty instead

>>723512028
Playing vs equally skilled players is the most stressing (pic related) and the system is mostly used to help drive up player retention in a pretty shitty, addictive way, and the player retention in turn is desirable for maximizing profits (the longer people play the longer the opportunity for them to buy microtransactions) even though plenty of fun games exist that aren't played 24/7.

>>723501169 (OP)
skill issue

>>723501169 (OP)
Jumping like a subhuman retard is bas game design
In real life you don't do any of that spastic stuff

>>723507539
My African brother I was playing counterstrike 1.6 with 64 people before steam was even a thing it was not even close to the first multiplayer game that did that.

>>723504852
because the movement in quake is intentional and so everyone is on an even playing field.
the people that go sweat mode in games like bf do so because its basically just an exploit, and so they can rake in lots of kills on people that arent exploiting.

I wish Battlefront 2 wasn't left for dead. Its hard to get a GA match going without some faggot hacker.

>>723514586
Pretty sure getting stomped by higher skilled players is the most stressing. At least I can find breathing room at equal skill levels.

>>723511506
Actually this shows that the more modern your society, the older the players.
In Asia, games are for children.
In EU, they're still pretty serious and adults don't talk about video games.
In US, gaming as an adult is "normal".

>>723514941
>In EU, they're still pretty serious and adults don't talk about video games.
really wrong. outside of the obvious fifa/fc people do talk about newest shooters or consoles. it's just treated more of as a thing and not a lifestyle.

>>723514843
Depends on how much the game allows for working around them IMO. When I fight higher-skilled players I can learn new cool shit from them and I feel somewhat more driven to match them so at least there's that silver lining in the midst of getting my ass kicked

>>723501169 (OP)
Good, keep it nerfed. There's nothing fun about faggots ADHD zipping and sliding everywhere like a bunch of retards. Keep that shit to CoD.

>>723510448
>makes people quit the game earlier instead

>>723515118
Yeah, obviously I didn't mean the literally never talk about them. It's just that you're expected to still to the "cultured man" thing and talk about old books and other crap 99% of the people aren't really into anymore.
Like if you were to admit your favorite book is Har- uh... no, let's pick another example that won't attract /lit/ autists... a World of Warcraft novel people will literally laught at you. Will not laugh in your face but still.

>>723510660
no it was actually battlefield 1, there was a russian girl sniper. you're wrong, you should feel bad. also you could CHOOSE your character's gender in V

>>723515530
that's not a thing at all, I've been all over europe and people are just as well read as I'd expect an american to be. maybe a little better but the snobism is your own construct. reminder that most of people are descendants of the peasantry. royal shit is secluded and otherwise a cringe larp.

>>723501694
Why do you even need the game if it’s just a reaction time challenge? You could put a dot on someone’s screen and whoever clicks on it first wins and it wouldn’t change anything. Twitch shooters are inherently flawed designs. If all guns kill in a couple of shots the meta will always be high capacity, high fire rate weapons with builds that maximize movement speed and minimize reloading.

>>723515597
True, but that russian girl sniper was added in later in a DLC. I only played BF1 for a couple days, then moved on because it was so shitty.

>>723515716
Bitch I live here
At work, like ONE TIME a CHICK brought up video games (a man would never make this mistake) and like the whole meeting went silent and then we changed subject. You have no clue how ridiculously serious euros can be, it's so tiresome

>>723503215
people who don't care for modern zoomer "movement" shooters

>>723503215
The kind of 40 year olds who ruined WoW by making Blizzard dumb down everything to the most accessible possible level because they work an 8 to 6 job and have 5 kids to take care of, so they don't have time to grind or get good at games anymore, but still have the disposable income that publishers want.

>Zoomoids wants "movement"
>refuse to play actual movement shooters

>>723515530
that's also not a thing, unless we're talking about very different people. but even the "educated" ones aren't that bad, do you work in banking or something?
>>723515872
I do as well, you've got more stuck up people around you. I'm talking about the average person not some corp snake.

>>723502671
anon..

>>723512759
Really very few people actually grew up playing Quake, Tribes and Unreal at a level that actually put those games' potential high speeds to the test.
Most of genx and millennials still playing shooters today played inherently slower games like CS, early COD and BF.

Anecdotally, my old friend group's timeline went MOHAA, SOFII, Planetside 1, COD&BF from 2003 to 2013, some others, and then Titanfall... and Titanfall was the point where most of them fell off because the entire genre as a whole was getting progressively quicker and highly mobile, including COD and BF.
A lot of them shifted over to slower hero shooters, I couldn't stand those.

>>723505151
No you fucking retard, they just want to shit on people who don't care about movement. Otherwise Arena games would have never died to begin with.

>>723516069
And they play a fucking BATTLEFIELD game of all games instead of the dozens of games that have hyper movement sliding shit. This is the developer's fault for creating all of this shit in the first place. Fuck DICE and fuck EA

>>723511969
No one plays squad anymore.

>>723516229
That's a shame. I've wanted to get into it, but haven't had the money to upgrade my PC. I heard the move to Unreal Engine 5 is what killed the game.

>>723516073
I dunno man, I've been at 3 office jobs so far and at none of them would I feel comfortable properly talking about games. I don't mean "Yeah I sometimes play games". I mean like actually mentioning details about builds in Path of Exile or animation cancels in DMC and stuff. And weebshit is outright taboo, don't even try to bullshit me about that.

>>723516143
Very few is a huge overstatement. Back in the day you had no problem finding a server for Q3 or UT or UT04. People got older, console online gaming came in and they died out, that's it.

>>723501169 (OP)
good. take that shit back to CoD and Fortnite.

>>723501169 (OP)
what is the deal with zoomers and muh movement in shooters?

>>723514843
My best game was CS1.6 and I didn't find people better than me just people that were good at hiding hacks. I couldn't play pro cause my life was too crazy, but I played against pros a lot. The tournament setting wasn't stressful it was fucking annoying. That's the only way most pros were able to play. If you put them in a 30 player server they usually weren't the best. There's good ones of course, but most of them are pretty shit outside of their factory setting. When you can expect somebody it's easy. You know a good player will do A, B, or C. A bad player is unpredictable.
>i am at bombsite A and can hear both paths
>enough time passes that sonebody should have come
>time to go back and check other site
>nobody there
>they probably faked
>go back to other site
>nobody there
>bomb has been planted
>at b
>what the fuck was he doing that entire time?
It's usually easy to kill them, but if they have the hands to shoot and are bad players, they are the worst opponent. You will have no idea where these retards are. He will lay in a bush for the entire game and get the 1 kill in your 30-1 streak and somehow win the fucking match. People better? Where? They just play more. I can't live that life anymore. It is a worthless endeavor.

>>723504852
>le epic quake movement
>all you can do is run and jump

>>723516296
Oh yeah, definitely not that hard. It's usually like I said, new fifa, the cards(i can't fucking believe they get roped into that) new shooter or a sony game. It is usually just that, even from women, "yeah my boyfriend plays FIFA all the time". had a coworker at a previous job where we argued nvidia vs amd but that was more private. and I never argued that "serious gaming" is in vogue, just that it exists in a conversation. it's on the level where my gf just watches netflix.

>>723516384
>sliding and jumping aren't just the same as movement with the players view raised or lowered
>it's a whole different thing
Man you guys are fucking space cases lol.

>>723504852
Because boomers and millennials killed the arena genre by not playing any games within it.

>>723516378, >>723516145. Zoomers(and now generation A) would get annihilated if they played actual movement games like Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, etcetera. They're the most hated generation in all of history for a reason.

>>723501169 (OP)

If people actually wanted movement Titanfall would still be alive

>>723516616
there was a coordinated effort to kill titanfall thoughbeit

>>723516384
there was an entire genre gameplay video of players showcasing their movement skills in quake games where there weren't even enemy players on the map

>>723516539
No, that genre died because after ut 2k4 every game in it that came out sucked, was unfinished or had something horribly wrong with it and people would just go back to Q3A and either UT 99 or 2K4, people then got bored of playing the same version for 20 years, and because new players needed coaching to learn to play thanks to shit onboarding and no new player pools the population collapsed
>WHAT ABOUT TITANFALL 2?
Titanfall 2 got abandoned by Respawn a year into its release and got left to rot, letting hackers eventually ddos the servers to death while the devs ignored everything to work on Apex Legends.

>>723516562
Who cares about some dead game? You're getting annihilated in BF6.

Lock all CoD babbies with Quake boomers

>boomers always bitching that games aren't as fast as quake
>need to nerf zoomers moving like spastics to compete with them

UHHH BOOMBROOM BROS WHAT IS OUR RESPONSE

>>723501169 (OP)
>movement autists getting nerfed
Good, stop trying to make every game play exactly like COD.

>>723516384
post yourself clearing strafe maps if its just "run and jump"

>>723516616
>>723516663
>>723516773
This, people LOVED titanfall 2, they don't play it because for 2 years you LITERALLY COULD NOT DUE TO DDOS which the devs refused to fix, likely because they feared pulling people off Apex.

>>723516773
I miss Onslaught and Assault like you wouldn't believe there's still nothing like the fucking convoy

>>723516852
1v1 one me in Quake

>>723516773
>I refuse to play anything other than Quake 3!!!!!
Again, that's why the genre died out lol. Arenafags are nothing more than posers who want gamercred for doing nothing.

>>723517010
>>723516962
it even works in a browser

>>723516852
design a fucking game that was actually built around movement instead of a shitty ADS shooter that has hacky movement exploits and hitbox desyncs that faggots use to farm retarded children in an unranked PUB match you zoomer faggot

>>723517010
>every game in it that came out sucked, was unfinished or had something horribly wrong
Why do you niggers miss this part every time. People didn't play the new games because they were busted unfinished pieces of shit. They even fucked up Quake Live with retarded restrictions and attempts at monetization despite it being the better way to play it and an obvious way to make it more accessible

>>723504490
Its amazing how much cope there is. Its on par with xcom.and muh 95% chance to hit lel

The movement is too fast HOW? Is it just everyone zooming around at mach 1 like in half life mp (FUN), or is it this new slide cancelling shit they do in call of duty that looks glitchy as fuck and brown people with 200 ping love doing

>>723503485
It's so funny seeing geriatrics say shit like this. I hopped on quake live (5 hours total btw) the other day and DUMPSTERED some unc with 1000s of hours in a duel server. Face it - you're being replaced by a new generation of superior gamers. Put those arthritic hands to use making birdhouses or something.

>>723504490
>fair matchmaking system with 50/50 win rates
That's exactly the problem, skilled players should be winning 80/20 and chumps 20/80. This "everybody wins" crap is for pussies.

>>723517228
Yeah sure and my dad works at nintendo

Can you actually strafe while shooting in this game? I hated the movement in BF4 where it would massively increase your spread for even daring to press WASD while shooting

>>723516812
TRVKE

>>723501694
Skill based matchmaking does not change the correct way to play a military shooter being to jump around like a spastic, the game is basically 64v64 Apex with army man skins from what I've seen.

>>723517275
I'm not sure what's so unbelievable about this. Everyone knows that "men" in their 30s are mentally castrated sportsballniggers who spend their days drinking IPAs and their nights watching the latest Disney Plus (tm) star wars TV show. ZoomGODS don't do any of that zogsense. It only makes sense that the young and beautiful would CRUSH the old and deformed, regardless of their game of choice.

>>723504852
Quake movement is methodical, rewards precision rather than button spamming, and gives you the strategic edge (i.e. map movement and positioning) rather than make your hitbox harder to hit (for that, you dodge, which is a very different beast from strafe jumping and the other Quake movement tech.) In fact jumping around mindlessly in Quake gets you killed very quickly. All in all it's the complete opposite of what movement tech is like in modern fps.

>>723507481
You literally get better statistics in games by playing less now, it's an abysmal experience.

>>723503485
this
>zoomer: b-but i play quake too
you're the exception buddy
otherwise the games wouldn't die out

>>723517537
>what's unbelievable about that
/v/ niggers actually playing some without a matchmaking button

>>723501169 (OP)
Boomer cope is genuinely off the charts when it comes to stuff like this
>Actually, if you kill me that means you're worse that me because... reasons
>Learning how to move in the game isn't skill, it's ABUSING GLITCHES
>Oh, you're beating me in this game we both have 10 hours on? Well how about 1v1ing me in this dead game that I've played for 10k hours? Oh, you don't want to buy it? That means you're SCARED
Remember that these are people who routinely lose to elementary schoolers on fortnite and get so angry they have to go on reddit and make rant posts about building and how it actually takes no skill.

>>723508492
I didn't queue into ranked mode. Why is casual lobbies ranked mode? What's the point of ranked mode of public lobbies already have rigid matchmaking systems?

>>723517968
Sounds like youre scared

>>723516384
The individual components are straightforward yes. What makes the movement good is how they combine with each other and with the map design to make something that's deep. So yes, simple yet deep, exactly as it should be.

>>723518035
1v1 me on CPMA NOW NIGGER!
Drop the server. I'll show up and RAPE YOU

>>723501694
Sbmm doesn't fucking work. Never did. If it did, every match would feel like a close match between teams. Instead you get to take turns raping each other while you get paired with retards

>>723518059
Ok what is cpma

>>723503215
What's not to get? Are you actually retarded?

>>723517968
>i want to play a game with fast movement
>no i will NOT play a game specifically designed with that in mind im gonna use a bug in another game to do that instead
Explain, zoomers.

>>723518108
>what is cpma
JFL unc doesn't even know what CPMA is
https://playmorepromode.com/

>>723518136
Design is cope
If you can do it then it's a feature, not a bug

>>723501169 (OP)
i'll just play cs2

>>723504475
Because games had servers back then. Dishonest faggot

>>723503215
Millennials who fell for the marriage meme.

>>723518189
If you want to do it so bad then why aren't you playing a game where it won't be removed?

>>723504490
Forced 50 isn't skill based, is it nigger.

>>723506387
because they grew up playing garbage like apex legends nonstop
now they demand every game needs to be like that but at the same time they are too shit to compete in actual boomer movement shooters

>>723518136
>It's a bug
Why?
>um because... because... um... because... BECAUSE YOU BEAT ME THAT'S WHY!
>NO ONE BEATS ME WITHOUT CHEATING OR EXPLOITING BUGS!
Genuinely what makes olds lash out like this?

>>723501169 (OP)
Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot

>>723501694
The issue with SBMM is general inconsistency. I've never seen it actually rank a player in a consistent manner for consistent matches. You do three matches where you curbstomp actual retards so the game considers you a god, so you spend three matches being curbstomped like an actual retard just to be sent back down. It's a rubberband system that isn't all that fun.

>>723518183
Yeah arena shooters are kinda lame but i played all the unreal games

>>723518292
Still waiting for an explanation for why you don't play arena shooters.

>>723517010
If people listened to retards like you and mindlessly chased the newest release, the genre would actually be dead. Instead, QL has populated servers because it has a better infrastructure (community servers and maps, mainly) than all the releases that followed it.

>>723518337
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>Sounds like youre scared
Okay, play me
>ummm arena shooters are lame
Average boomer. Face it. Zoomers WON

>>723518406
I already said i would?

>>723518357
Play me in CPMA NOW or shut the fuck up grandpa

>>723518479
Why are these games so dead if zoomers love them so much?

>>723501169 (OP)
all they have to do is ban cheating """"aim community"""" troons

>>723518539
deflection
LIKE I SAID
geriatrics are TERRIFIED of losing to the young

>>723503215
25+ boomers that should be focusing on their career and taking care of their wife's children instead of playing videogames

>>723518612
Ok but why are these games so dead?

>>723504038
yeah but muh cinematics, muh john battlefield etc

>>723518741
because the people who used to play them are in nursing homes and zoomers moved to games that take more skill like fortnite.

>>723513560
>similar thing happened in battlefield 3, but nostalgia won the day anyway. complaints about powerful vehicle... because they are supposed to be. nerfed their armor and repair into the ground.
and vehicles still absolutely skullfuck entire servers in both battlefield 3 and 4 so you sound like a huge faggot upset someone stopped his 100 kill streak

>>723501620
Saying nigga doesn’t make you cool nigger. Hang yourself with a rope Tyrone.

>>723518778
Wait but I thought that fast movement was good? Now it's bad?

Battlefield should be like a.. battlefield. Soldiers aren't jump sliding, double jumping and 360 scoping IRL.
Also good. Gaming is a dad hobby now the bulk of gamers are 26+

Why don't they just make movement fast without making movement fast if you press 16 buttons every second and make the animations look decent instead of making you look like a spastic violating the laws of physics?

>>723518902
>26+
that's gonna slide fr

>>723501169 (OP)
Open weapons, gender locked classes, shitty maps = NO BUY

>>723518868
Fortnite has faster movement than quake. Are you braindead?

>>723518902
Bf2pr revival lets go

>>723518949
Circana reports show that adults aged 45 and over are the largest group of U.S. gamers, representing 37% of all players, and the group with the highest average spending. While engagement in this demographic decreased for the first time since 2018, their spending grew. Conversely, engagement and spending by younger groups have declined

>>723518993
Do zoomers really think this?

>>723518934
you believe the average game doesn't violate the "laws of physics" or whatever? and that battlefield was ever anywhere near? lmfao dumb fucking ass

this kinda reminds me when cs first nerfed bhopping after 1.3

i guess it's a millennial thing to bitch about fast movements

they want all fps to be slower

>>723519028
You are no less delusional than the people who say things like "LeBron could have NEVER beaten Bob Cousy"
It's funny that both grandpas I've talked to have declined my request for a 1v1. I thought that zoomers couldn't keep up. It should be easy.

>>723501169 (OP)
Good zoom zooms have enough games

>>723501694
It just makes games eventually become unrewarding. It's basically feels like oblivions leveling system, but for skill after a certain threshold you can't feel powerful anymore unless you become the best which I have in some games, but that is just exhausting after a certain point especially when the games aren't good

>>723519168
sorry but the movment speed in fortnite is much slower than quake

>>723519168
>declined
>zoomie actively avoiding replying to my posts
Afraid of getting graped i see

>>723519103
WRONG
but I probably couldn't keep up, doesn't mean I want shooters to get slower. I just stopped playing them when they died.

>>723519103
If I want a fast shooter I will play a fast shooter. Battlefield was never meant to be a fast paced shooter.

>>723519168
Have you never heard of bunny hopping and strafe jumping? Movement in Quake is far higher than Fortnite.

>MATCHMAKING?
SKILL BASED
>MOVEMENT?
ONMI
>MICROTRANSACTIONS?
COSMETICS
>GAME BALANCE?
COMPETITIVE
>OBJECTIVES?
IGNORED
>MAPS?
FAST PACED
>SLIDING?
CANCELLED

>>723519478
I've never played Fortnite but from what I've seen, you shouldn't disrespect someone comparing it to duties or whatever. They seem to do try a lot.

>>723519478
Fortnite has all of that and MORE
>>723519290
I pointed you straight towards a website where you can download a free version of quake 3 and you declined.

>>723506061
Weird how everyone always has retards on their own team but they never get on the enemy team. Impressive how they manage that.

>back in my day
stfu

if you're 35 and still play video games then you really need to set your priorities straight

>>723504202
And what stops people joining?

>>723519653
lol you dont even know what that is

>>723519718
Well it's not my fault is it? mobas fucked this up. a mod played by friends inflected everything mp.

>>723519739
my priorities are straight. get on call with shekelberg's lackey to tell me what to do. pretend I'm doing for a week. do it over night when I feel like it. play video games meantime after before.

>>723516143
Actually many did, I remember the memes about how fucking slow cs was among the ones who prefered quake and unreal. When CS came out all the normie nerds flocked to it.

Never had a problem with zoomers.

They have better reaction time because they're younger, but it's not like it breaks the game or ruins your enjoyment or anything.

>>723504852
>Esports phase of vidya during 2016/2022 was just teamgame faggotry instead of gods having gladiatorial combat in Q3
I'll never not be mad, imagine the potential of seeing actually impressive shit being pulled off. Give me a modern "E-Sport" more impressive than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76UNcuKSVY

>>723520002
are you sane

>>723501169 (OP)
FPS games are the lowest level 'skill' games within vidya. I'd put any of these pew pew fags up against real games and watch them crumble and rage in their impotence to actually git gud

>>723504852
They legitimately will get fucked hard if they picked any of the real fast paced shooter ms

>>723517181
XCOM is like a perfect case study on how statistics and probability completely goes over the average midwit's head. It's no wonder other strategy games rig it or that even XCOM2 started giving invisible hit bonuses to the player on lower difficulties (yet you still see anons cry that it's bullshit and rigged against them).

>>723519045
Anon you type like a 6 year old, and I'm sure you look as retarded as you sound.

>>723504852
because theres no meta loadout to abuse and spam constantly

>>723520002
Me neither, I identify more with them than millennials in many areas, except they suck at technology. Like a tarded protozoomer, the 40 year old zoomer.

>>723520175
t. never played quake 3 or tribes 2

>>723502228
You're just a sore loser who wants easy wins. You should stick to singe player games if you can't handle losing

>>723520325
Please I ran circles around fuckers in SOF2. I've been playing these types of games since I was a kid. It doesn't change the fact that shooters especially modern day shooters aren't the baseline for true skill in vidya

>>723520002
The problem isn't with zoomers themselves but with devs changing the feel of games to appeal to the current fetishising of movement autism. Thankfully DICE nerfed the movement.

>>723520434
>SOF2
that had online? I just remember knifing faces and bodies

>>723520431
There is no need for engagement bait when the thread is at 300 replies

>>723520532
The online is still going today, granted basically dead but yes it had online and was a blast

>>723514093
gaming is common entertainment everyone talks about, just dont be a sperg - I had some retards who couldn't shut up about WoW at work

>>723520506
>appeal to the current fetishising of movement autism
I was out for drinks with company people on thursday. I'm old, some are older whatever, but since I'm an alcoholic and out on town I went for more. Got into a club/bar that had a lot of 20 somethings. I worm myself. Talking is talking but what I'm getting at is that when I heard them talking to either current girl or about to a "rizzled" one, they all talk about trauma. My parents weren't at home. I'm half something and kids laughed at me in elementary. I'm fat and can't cut it. I somehow wormed myself as a "cool uncle" after buying a round of beers but the experience and listening to them was crazy. They're fucking gay and lame as fuck and I'm saying this as an alcoholic divorcee. At the least I think they did get to fucking at some point but the whining and blaming was tiring.

>>723506940
>>723507481
>The fun is getting good and stomping shitters
>The main benefactors of SBMM are shitters who need a free win. The big losers are the giga-autists who have to carry them.
As one of the giga-autists, I think anybody who says this kind of shit is ultimately a casual. Stomping shitters gets boring fast when you're actually capable of doing it without trying. SBMM makes it way easier to improve at a game, whereas you're incredibly limited if most of your matches just have average players, and close matches where you know you're beating some of the best players in the world are far more thrilling. I was capable of regularly stomping a server beforehand but I never improved so fast as when I played a game with an actual ranked mode. The young me that was already getting banned from servers for 'cheating' would probably think I was a hacker if I played against him.

I'd also add, casual/unranked queues in most games with SBMM are still typically loose enough that you can stomp regardless if you're genuinely great at the game.

>>723521013
there were things besides mandated ssmm servers, we called them tournaments and you brought your case with you to play. the fuck do i care about emerald league or whatever if i can't flaunt it straight to my peers? you're how do you say that , cooked? good job you've got a rank. I used to play guys, get into fisticuffs and drink with them all after a game.

>>723501169 (OP)
I feel like they need to slow the movement down a bit or something, its not CoD fast but its definately way faster than I feel BF should be, its resulting in people adopting a more run and gun style where carbines and SMGs are far and away the most used weapons because they just shoot so fast after sprinting, but what I actually want is for them to fix the servers.
>packet loss
>ping spike for 10 seconds every 2 minutes
This shit is fucking infuriating. For whatever reason it doesnt happen in the community servers

>>723521179
The movement is fine. It's the maps that are shit and poorly designed with no flank routes. The objective zones are also too small on conquest.

>>723516145
Arena shooters died before half the zoomers were even born. Millennials killed arena shooters in favor of Battlefield, CoD, and CS.

>>723518856
Keyed

>>723521162
I've noticed more and more anons just going on nostalgic rants to themselves that barely address people's points. Real boomer hours.

>>723519653
consider yourself graped

Battlefield 1943 is the only worthwhile battlefield.
>but what abo-
Battlefield 1943 is the only worthwhile battlefield.

>>723521331
but what's the point? old guys can't play? the retards that play on consoles are probably the cause of it. setup a quake match, it's easy. we will play and decide who's what.

>zoomers and battledads
Well, that's one way to phrase controller users vs. KBM.

Reminds me of when Apex Legends nerfed some movement tech because it was keyboard-exclusive.

damn if only we had player-hosted servers or something where the admin could set the rules and everyone just floats around until they find THEIR kind of ruleset server

>>723521493
battlefield portal no?

>>723501169 (OP)
Zoomers aren't sticking around with this flavor of the week even if it 100% catered to their tastes.

>>723521414
>no, I havent played it in 10 years, why do you ask

>>723507172
No, our profit model requires this. I’m sure you understand.

>>723506312
SBMM doesn't work in BF6, every single game is a stomp
Its never close
Its always one sided

>>723522059
Just pull a Tribes Ascend and allow community servers......to be rented from you and only you directly.

>>723521471
>but what's the point? old guys can't play?
I genuinely have no idea how that's the conclusion you came to. You respond like you have dementia and just read whatever you want in people's posts.

>>723522082
That means it works. When games are stomps it's easier to make people go 50:50 wl.

Why does every FPS need to have soldiers who are covered in lube and wearing moon boots and a wingsuit as a movement system?

This slide/jump around thing lacks any real depth, skill or even speed. I miss when things required actual execution and were difficult to pull off.

>>723501169 (OP)
Spoiler
Spoiler

>>723501694
SBMM makes /v/dditors mad because they find out that theyre in bottom 5%

>>723522473
really because every /v/edditor praises it since it “punishes” streamers and protects them from being gaped

>>723521179
The game is unplayable for me over this shit, the game was fine till that recent update now it does this shit where it just rubber bands with massive ping spikes consistently then goes back to normal.
>small developer, please understand
Im fucking tired man.

>>723506061
>Every time my team wins its all me and enemy was good
>Every time I lose its my team and enemy sucked

I don't wish any game a fanbase of dad gamers. They ruin everything they touch. A fate worse than death.

>>723518856
Saying nigger doesn't make you cool nigga.

>>723522927
They infest singleplayer games as well. Noooo the games are to long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>723523038
Casuals don't like Witcher, Cyberpunk and Elden Ring?

I play CoD online because it lets me enjoy a PvP game without gamer dads.

Who fucking cares? Any smart anon avoided this shit after that tranny omori vtuberfag blatantly cheated and uploaded footage of himself doing it

>>723522927
the problem with dad gamers is that they socialise more than playing. and when you criticise the game point out massive flaws, they just respond with somithing like "yeah haha isn't that funny" or they'll just go full schizo on you with indecipherable rambling and complete nonsense. fuck dad gamers and fuck elite dangerous
t. 34 yo

>>723501169 (OP)
What?

>>723502303
wha

>>723504490
Question:
Is it fair an excellent player and a bad player should have relatively the same win rate?

>>723523891
An excellent player against other excellent players and a bad player against other bad players both having a 50% or so WR is perfectly fair, yes.

>>723523891
if the skilled player had over 50% win rate it would mean he is playing people much worse than him which would be unfair. if the unskilled player had under 50% win rate it would mean he is being forced to play people much better than him which would also be unfair.

>>723501694
gamer dads and their consequences have been a disaster for video games

Reminder to bully and grief gamer dads whenever you can.

>>723523487
NOOOOO B-BUT XHE DIDNT CHEAT THOOOOO

I played like a "battledad" even as a teenager. I'm not conditioning myself to slide around corners or spam spacebar that shit's retarded

>>723501169 (OP)
Question, folks:
Hell Divers 2 is popular with zoomers, does it have zoomer movement?

The biggest redpill you need to understand is that boomers and Arena FPS boomers espcially are not good at video games.
And when they get dabbed on by zoomers that's better than them it makes them so mad.

Have movementzooms tried quake 3?

>>723501568

Same thing happened with Titanfall 2. At first it was too slow then too fast, etc.

>>723524498
you need brains to play quake. running around like a retard won't get you far

>>723524471
>NOOOOOOO BUT BOOMER SHOOTERS ARE FAST GAMERDADS PLAYED QUAKE WE'RE THE BEST GAMERS

I have a feeling the average boomer sucked absolute shit at quake and they probably seethed about it being too hard but back then if you acted like a whiny bitch you simply got told to shut the fuck up.
Swear to fuck "gamerdads" should be forced to take a paternity test and be forced to take a cyanide pill if the kid isn't theirs.

I don't get it I thought boomer shooters were games like quake and tribes with fast movement and battlefield and cod were for kids with slow movement. is it the other way around now?

>>723501169 (OP)
Based on my own history of playing FPS games, I would say I sucked at them from pre-teen all throughout my teens. I was way better in my late 20's. I no doubt could have kept it up even in 30's but most of us find something better to do by then. Being good at FPS is not necessarily a kid thing.

>>723524602
Oh look at that
>YOU NEED BRAINS TO PLAY QUAKE I WAS SO SMART BUT SOMEHOW I BECAME RETARDED AND SLOW
Cunt if you were smart you wouldn't have fallen for it when your wife told you the baby came out brown because she ate a lot of chocolate while pregnant.

>>723506312
server list and very asymmetric team balance. worked for red orchestra 2.

>>723524681
They probably just played at most a few hours at a LAN, thought they were really good at the game because they beat their friends that never touched the game before. And still can't get over that moment and think this makes him a godly gamer.

>>723524780
Battledads aren't complaining about fast games existing, they're complaining that Battlefield shouldn't have an autistic ADHD movement meta.

>>723510380
Spread on the first one is way worse and it takes him like double the time to down the target.

>Boomers always brag about how zoomers don't play "real" fast games like Quake which they did
>but they also lose their shit if a FPS requires you to move more than 5meters per minute
Same reason they seethe about Fortnite, it's too hard for them

>>723524912
yeah bf2 had dolphin diving and I remember everyone saying it was lame as hell

>>723521234
Zillennials will never be true millennials. There were no 80's millennials harping about Halo.

>>723525023
dive into roll. classic faggotry

>>723501169 (OP)
>>723508631
that's a different species of boomer. the battledad is the kind of whiny boomer you see on troonera.

>>723524740
>I no doubt could have kept it up even in 30's but most of us find something better to do by then
There are pro players in their 30s even.

>>723524998
slow movement punishes bad decisions, simple as. the way CoD and similar games work, you can turn your brain off and sprint like a retard. no matter how bad you expose yourself, you'll just sprint around a corner and start regenerating health. disgusting

>>723506831
I didn't really care about them nerfing sliding/jumping but, wow, that's horrendous. Can you at least counter strafe like in CS?

It doesn't matter how good you think you are. It doesn't matter how much you practice.

There is an army of zoomers out there with better reflexes, more free time, always armed with the latest meta and a functionally unlimited supply of adderall.

Your time is over.

take me back bros
bf6 is okay, but there is so much shit coming from all angles its hard to know whats going on hey

>>723514586
I think what is underrated out of the 'wide band' SBMM structure is that if you're playing against players that are better than you sometimes and worse than you other times it produces 3 probable but not guaranteed outcomes and 2 improbable but possible outcomes, all beneficial to players.

1(Tautologically Guaranteed): In an evenly matched game, you win or lose on teamwork and performance. This is a stressful kind of game, but also highly engaging and helps prove and establish your MMR.
2(Probable): In a match against a superior team you have an uphill fight and generally lose; but you see the strategies and behaviors better players are using and test yourself against them. There is a high probability of learning in this kind of match.
3(Probable): In a match against an inferior team you can decompress some and perform well. You can't slack entirely as the enemy is not so substantially worse as to be not a threat, but there is room for confidence building and practice under less stressful circumstances.
4(Improbable): In a match against an inferior team, you can still lose, generally by them having to lock in and display a higher level of cohesion and skill than their rank shows. It punishes complacency and means you're more likely to play seriously all your matches to avoid this kind of embarrassment.
5(Improbable): The inverse of 4, you take down a tougher team by getting your shit together; presenting a higher level of mastery and teamwork. Even if this feels identical to 1, it demonstrates and applies skills learned from other games or practice and will gradually raise your MMR.

Mashing your face against an even matchup every time produces only 2 kinds of games, win or lose: The matches where everyone plays their heart out and is exhausted or matches where a teammate snaps or checks out on either team and throws. It's an awful fucking experience all around.

>>723523284
Not the gamerdads, they want every game to be maximum of 8 hours

>>723520175
>against real games
Such as?

>>723526353
Zoomers are nearly 30. The Alphies are the ones to worry about

>>723519739
>Says the boy who will never be a home owner

>>723524376
I'm in my 40's and it's a lot of fun to slide around corners popping grenades unloading with a shotgun. I have no idea why Dice thinks they need to balance movement. Haven't had this much fun since Titanfall 2 multiplayer.

>>723503215
Battlefield is a game for 30+ year olds. It's been over 10 years since the last good battlefield game and we were in our late 20s during that time.

>muh slow boomers
i'm 39, we grew up on doom and unreal tournament.
cod shit only appealed to casual gamers and now they're "old"

Its ok, I only played BF1 before and I like the setting way more, and maps were better I think. But 6 is still better than CoD or Fortnite, so its the first shooter I buy in fucking ages

>35
>read some of the memes about 35 year old men at home cause they only care about games despite my current situation for being back at home isnt the same
>go into full blown panic attack blood pressure literally 190/95 freaking out over being at home
Fuck man why cant i just accept things are just how they are for now, my parents mother mostly needs some help health wise and dad cant miss too many days at work. Why do i let these "people" in my mind who are judging me for not having my stuff sorted again and i work myself up over it, why cant i just understand that life has its bumps just roll with it and take it one step at a time. Wtf

>>723533004
When I was your age, I had already long resigned from even trying to fit into society. Weird that (You) still care.

>>723519739
Don't forget, you'll be here forever...

>>723519739
>32
>still in age to enjoy GTAVI and FF7R3
Good, I dont give a shit after that

>>723503215
a characteristically lame attempt at forcing a meme by games journalists

>>723533004
What helped me was the realization that no matter who you are, there will be people who are going to judge you poorly. To hell with 'em.
t. 35 and moved back with mother because she recently became a widow, and her health and finances are tanking hard.

>>723533126
I do care because i want be someone people can depend on cause i feel thats what men should do and be

>>723506312
dedicated servers and soft skill-based matchmaking. you should have three options:
>browse servers
>join a random server with good ping
>join a random server with good ping AND a weak preference for ones populated by similarly skilled players

>>723525442
>slow movement punishes bad decisions, simple as.
You've never played UT2004 and it shows.

>>723524740
You can still compete off of muscle memory, trained reflexes, and superior knowledge, but it is objective fact that a zoomie in their early 20s will have better reaction times and reflexes than you and beat you in a 1v1 most of the time.

Isn't Battlefield supposed to ride the line between COD arcade dolphin dive bullshit and Milsims?
Like you have blimps exploding and buildings falling and tornados but its played seriously and you're meant to have SOME form of planning?
Sounds like they forgot what their own niche was by having operators and bunnyhopping zoomer movement.

>>723533004
weird how rich people and nonwhites aren't psyopped into suffering panic attacks for being around their families

>>723504038
The problem with battlefield is that it's always been this weird middle ground of realism and arcadey gameplay. Bf3/4/1 felt like it had the best balance

>>723501694
>Isn’t this problem exactly what skill based matchmaking is for?

I hate this shit. Let me pick a server from a list.

>>723517217
the latter, the game has dolphin diving lmao

>>723501694
SBMM sucks for FPS games. It only works well in fighting games and stuff like Chess. And it's not even because
>muh team sucks

it's because part of the culture and spirit of getting good at FPS is dunking on lobbies. SBMM only makes sense for esports leagues in FPS games, not ranked mode or public servers. Also it is abused by the game publishers and devs to enforce 1:1 win/loss ratio and stimulate "engagement".

>ruh roh, this player has won too many games
>time to put him with the mouth breathers for a while to bring his winrate down

>>723514828
Half-life released a month before Tribes. CS wasn't even a thing until a year or so after Half-life was out. TF Quake matches were typically 16 player with 32 player being rarely available.
The only huge games before Tribes were MMORPGs and some top-down shooters like Subspace.

>>723501169 (OP)
>boomers get raped by zoomers despite larping about how good they were in Quake, CS and Halo
hahahaha

>>723511506
I think this has more to do with network latency. Asian gamers are either Koreans playing Koreans or Japanese playing Japanese so have extremely low latency. Half the Americans are playing on WiFi.

>>723501169 (OP)
more like unclefield 6

im having fun with it
its not bf3, but i briefly tried bf1 and bf5 and they just felt super off? like i couldn't land shots on guys on the run at all

in this one i towed a jet in my first game and have a few rpg kills on helis so far(mostly play medic desu)


still nothing compares to the times i had playing CQB noshair canals map(the one in the sea containers in the port), that shit just hit so well

>>723533004
desu the amount of people i work with aged from 25 to late 30s are always coming and going from home, its just how it is either you have a partner and can get a mortgage because you both have a good job or one of you have a really good job.
or you bounce around between home or find a little nook and sit in relative comfort but essentially poverty in terms of upwards momentum(where i am rn)

I am boomer and I just shoot them 4 times with the M277 and they die.
Controller btw.

I accept the fact that I'm a battledad thus my aim is terrible but I compensate by placing claymores everywhere I go and shooting rockets at people.

>>723536994
my entire playsyle since bf3 is to run full explosion wizard:
frag shotty, rpg, SLAM/C4/at mine, usually use my secondary as my primary because the primary gun becomes so specialized for trolling.
just be as fucking annoying to recons and vehicles as possible, spam rockets everywhere, at any target, even if i can't see them i will chuck an rpg downrange and follow up with lobbed frag rounds. if you kill me you are only letting me have more rockets and eventually one will find your face.

fix
netcode
first

>>723501169 (OP)
I haven't played bf since bf1 can some describe to me this shitshow I keep hearing about? Was the game like too unrealistically fast for bf title or is it a typical case of veteran players not wanting to learn new mechanics and game meta or something else entirely?

>>723538150
ITs cod mw19 2.0 basically

I just hate how inconsequential everything feels, it's just zooming across the map with dudes spawning on every corner of the map with zero map flow because of it, the impact that a single player has feels really fucking low and even if you as a solo kill an incoming hoard of people to defend a point you just run out of ammo before the necromancers show up and start instantly reviving every single person you just killed

>>723517537
>talking about gamers
>describes normies
lol what

>>723524113
>if the skilled player had over 50% win rate it would mean he is playing people much worse than him which would be unfair
enjoying the fruits of his labor at getting good?
>if the unskilled player had under 50% win rate it would mean he is being forced to play people much better than him which would also be unfair.
you mean they would have to IMPROVE their gameplay?
>>723524079
who the fuck wants perpetual sweaty games? no one who isn't being paid to play

EVERYONE knows its fun to stomp shitters. shitters getting stomped drives them to improve. if you don't have that drive then you are not a gamer and game devs should not cater to you

we ALL went through it before getting good.

>>723501169 (OP)
The only thing I care about now that weapons are leveling up faster and challenges can be completed at a lower account level is fixing the bloom.

>>723534262
>it's because part of the culture and spirit of getting good at FPS is dunking on lobbies
>SBMM only makes sense for esports leagues in FPS games, not ranked mode
Then just play a casual lobby, nigga. Even in games where casual modes have SBMM, it's never strict enough to stop you from stomping if you actually got good. Why would you want it out of ranked unless you're a casual that doesn't like ranked to begin with? What would even be the point except for you to try and flex a rank that now means absolutely nothing?

>>723538716
>who the fuck wants perpetual sweaty games? no one who isn't being paid to play
Cod kidds hihg on adderal unironically

>>723533935
they're also dumb as shit so you can use superior gamesense to embarrass them

>>723501169 (OP)
modern game movement is so fucking sperged out and unrealistic. fuck this slop.

>>723520434
>I played a game that barely anyone played and got a few frags in pubs
>Im such a god gamer haha
You're a delusional shitter

>>723520002
>They have better reaction time because they're younger
lol, lmao
t. 150ms average reaction time at 36 years of age

>>723534507
its funny that you think the people who were good at those would play battlefield. game has sucked since UO. its casual trash just like cod. frat bros played them. those frat bros are now "battledads". this has nothing to do with actual gamers, its old casuals

>>723538716
>who the fuck wants perpetual sweaty games? no one who isn't being paid to play
All the people who regularly queue ranked. (You) not liking it doesn't mean nobody does. You should have been taught that in special ed class when they found out you were autistic.
>EVERYONE knows its fun to stomp shitters
It gets boring rather quick IMO if you're actually good enough to do it regularly without effort. I remember making a smurf account to play with my friends, giddily queuing up to stomp shitters, and then getting bored without my friends in like two matches and feeling like I was just getting worse by playing on it. I had to start handicapping myself with them to make it fun. Getting called a hacker is always enjoyable though, I will say.
>shitters getting stomped drives them to improve. if you don't have that drive
I have that drive. I also have the drive to be even better than just stomping shitters which SBMM facilitates.

>>723513168
Im not the one crying and kicking my feet demanding that bf be adjusted to be exactly like I want it, nigger

>>723533935
You're not losing 1v1s because some zoomie has 30ms reaction time advantage over you.
You lost because you suck and got outskilled.

>>723539017
what a sad and pathetic life

>>723539260
You just know that nigga starts seething and coping like nothing else whenever he plays any modern shooter.

>>723507278
They've moved to a more matchmaking based system since BF5, and that game was 7 years ago. Whatever server support BF5, 2042, and 6 have is absolutely nothing like the dedicated servers from games before.

>>723539471
It's the games fault!
The obscure console shitfest I played for a hour vs. my friend (I won) was the real game!
Im literally best in the world!

>>723501694
Actually what solves it is community servers, faggot

>>723501169 (OP)
why wont battledads play squad or arma where they can power trip due to seniority

>>723501169 (OP)
i haven't played bf since 2
can someone explain what the fuck does any of that mean?

really just feels like ea is doing a bunch of shit cause they're scared of losing people to cod regardless

>>723539691
Dadgamers are being farmed, resulting in them crying hax and bad game

>>723539389
>All the people who regularly queue ranked
obviously not since everyone is whining you dumb faggot
>getting bored without my friends in like two matches
oh wow its like video games are boring without friends. hmmmm... maybe the stomping wasn't boring at all

you sound like a total fucking loser who bases his self esteem on video games. i wouldn't be surprised if you don't actually enjoy them at all anymore and you're just friendless and chasing dopamine you'll never get again

"Battledads" are against this because they want an experience that's different from what's on the market. If you're into the kind of movement "zoomers" want, there's a TON on the market for that. Along with that, we all know what these players are going to do. They're going to leave the minute the hype wave is over. The game has already lost almost 50% of its peak players in a week on steam. The type of streamers/players who are asking for these "faster paced" changes are the kind that don't stick around.

Funny thing is that this isn't new. When BF3/4 released, the "Battledads" were Bf2 players. And they got fed up and made squad. Now Bf6 releases and "Battledads" are now Bf3/4 players. The cycle continues. Most of the shit I've seen self proclaimed Bf3/4 "vets" complain about were in Bf3/4 too. Shit some of them were in Bf2. Point is most of this is just typical cycle bullshit. And the balance that DICE is talking about here is just corporate speak. The translation is "We need to figure out who is going to buy the most skins and then appeal to them".

>>723539670
Because arma milsim groups kick them for being shit and obnoxious

You can just imagine these milloomers getting mad, smashing screens while their trashy whore wife tries to calm them down and their ugly 2 year old child cries in the background

Speak like niggers
Look like faggots

>>723539873
Good

>>723539869
Im a 1942/Vietnam player.
Bf6 is fun

>>723539869
>The game has already lost almost 50% of its peak players in a week on steam.
worth noting their peak players (combined platforms) wasn't during steam's peak players

>>723539897
fr fr imagine the cost of a new screen or being able to afford a house

Haven't played it but from looking at it, indeed it was way too fast.
You need the game to be as fast as counter strike so that gunfights and teamplay is more important.
Also someone taking bullets should be slow down.

>>723531679
Most people who are 35 currently arent homeowners and never will be. Sucks to suck shouldve been born rich.

>>723539864
>obviously not since everyone is whining you dumb faggot
Even half this thread on this whiny ass board is saying it's fine, retard.
>oh wow its like video games are boring without friends
Except I had fun solo queuing on my main. I figured that was obvious but I forgot you were autistic despite even saying it, my bad. Why are you even on here if you think video games are only fun with friends?
>you sound like a total fucking loser who bases his self esteem on video games. i wouldn't be surprised if you don't actually enjoy them at all anymore and you're just friendless
Holy mother of seething projection lmao I didn't mean to make you so upset.

>>723539869
which BF game was the one where they took out leaning? i remember laughing when they added it back in the next game and acted like it was a groundbreaking feature

battlefield has been dogshit since 2

>>723540042
that's a city slicker cope

>>723539670
Squad/milsim games suck in their own right too. People champion them online all the time. But if you go in there with a bunch of randoms, you have 10% of the players doing logi. The rest are playing it exactly like battlefield. The core of both audiences is largely the same. Milsim just like the dick ride and think they're special for playing a milsim game. Personally, if there was some kind of spectrum where a "milsim" game like Arma/Squad was all the way on the left. Then "CoD" all the way on the right, I want BF to be in the middle. That's the sweet spot. I want all out warfare with some level of strategy. Not the level where its miserable like on Milsim. Nor where its so important that without it you're miserable. But the option is there. And since bad company, BF has been moving on the spectrum towards the "CoD" side. To me, the perfect Bf6 would be what it is now. However, you remove auto-regenerating HP, closed weapons, bigger maps, no kill cam, squad leader spawn only, commander mode, and server browser. Then it would be perfect for me.

>>723540154
so play red orchestra

>>723540142
I know it wasn't in 2042, of course. Don't remember if it was in 5 though. 2042, their heart was in the right place on some things (gadget design, vehicle design, large maps, weather destruction). But god damn did they miss 90% of the shots they took with that game.

>>723501169 (OP)
I saw this the other day I knew one of you faggots would use it as bait here, lmao.

>>723501169 (OP)

I play CoD: Mobile and find that teamwork in rank, even when the whole team is silent, is good strategy against movement players.

>>723540046
>i fucking LOVE playing sweaty unemployed lobbies for hours alone with zero real human interaction
guaranteed zero friends and no gf lol

im here to laugh at losers who take games like cod and battlefield seriously aka you

>>723540225
RO is fun, but it lacks the vehicle warfare I want. They have tanks, which are fun. But I want air vehicles of multiple types. Multiple types of ground vehicles. Just a massive warfare game. That's always been my problem is that some games get so close. But they just don't deliver on the scale/scope that the BF series does when it comes to things like that. So I end up wanting to play BF again. I know that I'll never get what I want in terms of design. So I'm content with what we've got for the most part. But it does seem like it would be easy to remake Bf2 with Bf6, or do it in portal if they give us the right tools to edit stuff. Seems like an easy win for them.

>>723540438
>i fucking LOVE playing sweaty unemployed lobbies for hours alone with zero real human interaction
Nigga, I know plenty of dudes with wives and kids that queue up ranked solo. I was at a coffee shop while out of state and the guys working were talking about Valorant and CS. Do you have any idea how popular competitive games are or how many normalfags play them? I was just joking but you really must be autistic.
>im here to laugh at losers who take games like cod and battlefield seriously
Yeah, I'm sure, anon. You're definitely not coping and seething. I don't take those games seriously btw. Did you think I was talking about a smurf account for Battlefield, retard-kun?

>>723506714
>bunny hopping
>rail gun
strafejumping*
UNLESS, you are a cpma chad

>>723540539
so bring back UT and Onslaught. fucking Timmy...

>>723501169 (OP)
old people just like females are a liability on the battlefield. how can we push objectives if grandpa can't even aim right?

>>723504852
Why do so many people pretend Quake is good when they obviously don't actually play it, since arena shooters are a dead genre?

It's almost as if Battlefield's shit gunplay was a necessary evil to make it far more difficult for individuals to go full Rambo and mow down entire squads while moving. I ever thought I'd be an advocate for bad hit detection and spastic recoil, but it made sense in the context of Battlefield. You relied more on your squad and vice versa.

>>723541982
It's precisely the fact that nobody plays it that lets them pretend they do and act superior to everybody else.

>>723501169 (OP)
still waiting for a pvp fps that uses the 1-100 percent of landing for rng bullshit to happen

>>723501694
sbmm made cod unplayable as high mmr meant high packet loss and latency.
ultimately this isnt a competitive game not every player needs to be equal to eachother. some people enjoy pubstomping, some find other ways to have fun.

>>723541982
quake 3 is over 25 years old and hasn't been evolved in an interesting way since. why do you expect that to be reasonable? no other fanbase could possibly complain more. quake champions was the last attempt, and it deliberatly introduced the exact issues that fans of the series detest in modern games. it was dead on arrival, it pleased nobody. the people that wanted characters and ultimates aren't the people that wanted quake. and i will agree, that they didn't make a significant difference, but the idea was enough to turn every single fan of the series away. nevermind the free to play model of locking gameplay behind paywalls. you would be mad too if you never got a good sequel in OVER 25 years.
>reflex
minimalist garbage that looks worse than even quake 1
>diabotical
locked to a store client nobody fucking uses or wants to use
what else? even other series, unreal 4? the game that was dropped in beta due to lack of interest, while it only had two (2) textured maps?

it should just be a server side option, because you just know server side mods will put it right back in.

let there be both. let the zoomers have their "crouch slide across doorways while shooting from the hip anime bullshit" and let the battledads have their TACTICOOL SIMULATION SLOW trundle.

just have both

fuckin hell

>>723516012
Wow already ruined itself by allowing add ons to do the fights for you. Now they're trying to remove it after over a decade of allowing it to exist.

>>723517536
its 32v32 you retard, know the fucking game or dont even post information on the thread

>>723503215
They were battleborn 40 years ago or something like that

>>723503215
battlefield 2 came out 20 years ago. if you played it at 15 years old, your 35 now

why is the discourse around this game so retarded

>>723543549
Casual game designed for retards to still have fun and you're on /v/ which is full of the biggest retards.

>>723505689
>le big corporashion is le evil
>NOOOO they are not that evil

I am very, very tired of all those age disputes that started once millenials turned 30

People act like each generation is a separate species just because they consumed a different slop in their teens

>>723543803
Napoleon Bonaparte was a pretty clever chap and said, "To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

>>723543803
it's engagement bait driven by bots

>>723504834

the state of videogayms

>>723543803
you cant see it? pre-mobile/post mobile. pre-smartphone/post smartphone, pre-ai, post-ai?

you know they dont even issue homework at schools anymore because letting someone take work out of the teachers eyes is completely useless? our local school hung on as long as they could, but turns out 90% of the homework was chatgpt results and the teachers spent 90% of the time detecting that crap and battling false positives/negatives.

so they just stopped issuing homework. entirely. you dont think thats gonna have an impact? having absolutely zero skills, never being taught to have any discpline and learn how to study/research on their own time?

>>723504202
Yeah it would instantly solve the issue by having niggers and retards instantly kicking out those who kill them

>>723543803
You don't understand. It's the millennials (and the retarded older zoomers who don't even realize they're gen Z) turn to cry about the young people and how everything's going to shit and all the new stuff is scary and it'll turn the kids into satani- trannies.

>>723544227
And yet all the discussions boils down to "our games/TV shows/other shit were/are better than yours'

>>723501169 (OP)
>fat out of shape elderly neckbeards are too stupid to tactically outwit a bunch of adhd youngsters
Even 15 years ago you had fast paced shooters where middle-aged guys were dunking on little shits skipping school to play COD for teh lulz. How garbage are the average boomer’s reflexes today that they can’t even do that?

>>723544620
as it should be

it has the most basic fucking rules

talk

about

videogames

>>723544620
>And yet all the discussions boils down to "our games/TV shows/other shit were/are better than yours'
Which is also funny because they're the ones making everything now. It's not 24 year old zoomers directing games and movies. It's the 30+ millennials.

>>723523891
>Is it fair an excellent player and a bad player should have relatively the same win rate?
Yes if the goal is to maximize playerbase retention.

A "fair" game is a dead game.

>>723506312
age based matchmaking after internet ID are mandatory

Im a boomer (37yo) and I hate zoomer movement not because it’s too fast but because it looks retarded. Whether when you do it, it looks silly, or when someone else does it and slides and hop around everywhere it looks plain retarded. I want a semblance of realism in my military shooter games even if they’re the arcadey type.

Haven't played BF for more than 15 years. But if zoomies love fast movement shouldn't they be playing arena shooters instead of grounded games like BF?

>>723504490
Do average players even care about teamplay or W:L ratio in games like BF or CoD? Its all about K:D.

>>723544683
my average RT is 270ms. it's over.

>>723503215
Menchildren.

>>723510205
Go do the dishes and mow the lawn

>>723517269
If you're good enough you still win 80% of the time

>>723511969
This shit looks about as good as a 2007 game with high res textures. Innovation is really dead, zoomers need to kts.

>>723501169 (OP)
Why can't zoomers stay in their COD concentration camp. They are behaving like entitled chimps.

>>723503215
It sounds extremely gay.

>>723548028
Dolphin diving and movement tech has been relevant since Battlefield 2.

>>723507480
This. I'll buy it if they remove those.

>MYYYY BACCCKKKKKK
GET FUCKED GRAMPS

>>723515872
>girl brought up video games in a meeting
>these euros are soooooo seriooooouuuuus
You're fucking retarded and it's not ok.

>>723548117
then what are "battleboomers" complaining

>>723501169 (OP)
I thought the "battledads" were the generation with the movement autism.

>>723547690
>t. retard

I know this is a sloppost thread, but why do people pretend like playing video games is like a lifetime of professional boxing and you have to retire at 30 or else you might die from the next button press if you're not careful. You don't meaningfully lose motor skills until you're in your 70's.

>>723522473
/thread

>>723501169 (OP)
The fuck?
Hell yes, fuck you kids, you WILL be old jist like the rest of us, you FUCKS!!!

>>723548503
engagement farming
sage

>>723548503
Because people pick up an MP shooter after years of not playing, get shit on, make zero effort to improve, stop playing after a couple hours, and assume it's their age because they could frag as a teenager when they played multiple times a week (not even mentioning people that just overrated how good they were to begin with). This board is also full of depressed doomers making demoralization posts about how life is over at like 25 or some shit too which doesn't help. There's pro players in their 30s. Other sports with much more wear and tear also have pros over their 30s or even in their 40s.

Also, like the other guy said, a nonzero amount is bait to get (You)s.

>>723548503
response time is critical the higher you move on the skill ladder. casual mutiplayer games like cod or bf should have skill based matchmaking so tryhards can try even harder. in counter strike we have ELO ranks so I can still enjoy the game with similarly skilled anons.

>>723549569
someone will call you reddit, you even made a newline between paragraphs

>>723501694
Skill-based matchmaking would be great if that's what modern games used. Unfortunately, we get engagement-optimized matchmaking. So you will never see a skill-based match in your life.

>>723543803
i turned 30 this year
i had a shocking realization i dont think ive been creative in at least 5 years probably closer to a decade

i dont even know if i can learn shit anymore, kinda given up on friendships even though im not a bad person

>>723501169 (OP)
anytime people have a mic in this games it's some losers going 3 / 20 on the scoreboard saying things like "oof, guess the unemployeds are out in droves today"
most matches, even on small map modes, i spend like 3 min between kills just looking for what corner these fags are standing still in