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Final Fantasy
New to the series but want to try some of the classics,is FF VI or IX a good starting point before jumping into VII or 12?

Are they actually connected story wise or are they all stand alone releases unrelated to each other completely
Anonymous No.723504142 [Report] >>723504404 >>723516227
They're all disconnected except for stuff like X-2 and XIII-2 that are explicitly marked as sequels.
You can play in pretty much whatever order, just grab whatever looks the most appealing to you.
Anonymous No.723504404 [Report] >>723504849
>>723503957 (OP)
FF1, 2 and 3 are entertaining, but 4 is often recognized as where they start doing more coherent plotlines. Generally I would recommend you play them all starting from I, but starting with IV is fine.
>>723504142
Eh, they reference each other often enough that you'll grasp the emotional stakes of some scene or another better knowing what exactly it's echoing.
Anonymous No.723504527 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
I started with FF1 for NES and worked my way up but I can't recommend that for everyone. Stories aren't connected but can be referenced, and various story, gameplay and design elements end up progressing throughout the series. FF2 introduces morbols, FF3 introduces chocobos etc among other things; if you like watching a franchise evolve and slowly discover and experiment with its identity it's very fun and worth it.

That being said, 6 is very popular. Look at the vibe and features of an FF and then find the version that has the best feature set for you. For example, NES FF1 is cool for the retro gamer who doesn't mind working around bugs for an oldschool atmosphere, but the PS1 version boosts the visuals, while the GBA version adds mana and makes it piss easy, but then the PSP one has a ton of extra postgame shit. FF5 on SNES has a dry fan translation, while the GBA one has a more interesting one that's a little cheesy, but said script can then be backported to the SNES with a patch if you don't want the GBA versions extra jobs and worse screen res etc.

Pixel remasters are all way fucking easier as a rule, mind you, just a heads up.
Anonymous No.723504579 [Report] >>723504831 >>723520565 >>723522463 >>723526204
8 is the only old FF game you should play as it's the best one
Anonymous No.723504660 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
Play a good game instead.
Anonymous No.723504797 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
Just play whatever, it's not that deep. II is the only one that truly sucks.
Anonymous No.723504831 [Report]
>>723504579
It's definitely not. The Draw mechanic feels fucking miserable and don't even get me started on the menu autism.

Also every single character but Squall and Rinoa gets fucking robbed. I'm still pissed off about Ultimecia just not getting any explanation to why the fuck she's even doing any of this TIME COMPRESSION nonsense.
Anonymous No.723504849 [Report] >>723505772 >>723506231 >>723526656
>>723504404
>they reference each other often enoug
This is also true. It's very fun when you check out FFXIV and even random shit from an obscure game like FFII is getting referenced every now and then. I also found playing XIV entertaining as going through games later meant I was getting blasted with tons of dungeons and story elements that were used for callbacks later.
Anonymous No.723505076 [Report] >>723505802 >>723506212
>>723503957 (OP)
Play 4 first, then 6. Then 7, and 10. If you *really* like 10, play 10-2. Then 8, and finally 9.

After that you'll have a good idea of if the others are worth it to you.
Anonymous No.723505203 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
Play whichever one looks intriguing to you, they’re standalone games there is no right order
Anonymous No.723505772 [Report] >>723505817 >>723522818
>>723504849
>XIV

the MMO one that was for PS2?
Anonymous No.723505802 [Report] >>723507715 >>723519185 >>723521290
>>723505076
9 literally is the best one
Anonymous No.723505817 [Report]
>>723505772
No that's XI.
Anonymous No.723505849 [Report] >>723506145 >>723506147
>>723503957 (OP)
what game genie code did you use to keep all of those characters? like nearly half of them permanently leave you in the story.
Anonymous No.723506145 [Report] >>723506434
>>723505849
...?
By the end of the game you should have everyone. You can find them all by doing their sidequests in the World of Ruin.
Anonymous No.723506147 [Report] >>723506434
>>723505849
>nearly half of them permanently leave

did you never turn on the game again after WoR anon?

you literally go back and re-recruit everybody again after you find them after the world gets shattered into islands m8
Anonymous No.723506212 [Report] >>723516585
>>723503957 (OP)
FF4 will seem lackluster if you play 6 first. 6 is the pinnacle of the 2D games, scope, art direction, music etc. Both are good though.
7 is the most popular of the psx era but lots of people prefer 8.
I never got into 10 or X series so can't really comment.
If you do like 6, Suikoden 2, Chrono Trigger and Seiken Densetsu 3 (secret of mana) are worth a look.
>>723505076
Pretty much this
Anonymous No.723506231 [Report]
>>723504849
Yeah, Answers in FFXIV is literally Bahamut vs. Alexander in FFIX, as an example. Everything from the visual language to the moves the characters pull.
Anonymous No.723506368 [Report] >>723517748
>>723503957 (OP)
It blows my mind you people are incapable of just playing a game series in release order.
6 is outstanding but why the fuck would you start with that one?
Anonymous No.723506434 [Report] >>723506690 >>723506768 >>723507207
>>723506145
>>723506147
I did quests, Terra wouldn't come back even after I found her and fought that monster. She wanted to stay with the children. Shadow never comes back. The old man and little girl didn't come back.
Anonymous No.723506690 [Report] >>723510681
>>723506434
Anon, you can literally take everyone to the final Kefka fight. They are all findable. You can snap Terra out of her funk and reunlock her Trance. You can find Shadow. You can find Strago and Relm too.
Anonymous No.723506768 [Report]
>>723506434
>shadow

My god,anon you've never seen anyone else play through VI

if you wait till the last 5 seconds or so before the floating island falls he'll jump with you into the airship

Still a bit later on you can have em rejoin again in the group
Anonymous No.723506829 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
they are standalone but some games aged better than others, VI is considered one of the best so if you are interested go try it
FFV is fucking great consider looking into it, otherwise I can only recommend FFIX as well
just pick whatever interests you, really
Anonymous No.723507207 [Report]
>>723506434
You have to go meet her twice. The first time she will refuse the call, the second time she will rejoin the party and you'll fight the monster again for real.
Anonymous No.723507715 [Report]
>>723505802
Whilst I think 9 is very good, I also think it is better with a sense of grounding in the rest of the series. It is also the shortest and maybe even easiest.
My list was definitely a case of finishing on a high, but I think people get more out of 9 if they have played some others
Anonymous No.723508029 [Report] >>723508472 >>723508604 >>723508660 >>723510835 >>723514657 >>723521853
>>723503957 (OP)
I genuinely hate VI and can’t believe people even find it playable, there’s a level at the halfway point that I don’t think anyone here has beaten without save states. Just play VII
Anonymous No.723508472 [Report] >>723508548 >>723521181
>>723508029
the only one that could give you trouble would be pic-related but by that point sabin should have his healing art
Anonymous No.723508548 [Report]
>>723508472
I’m talking about the sky zone
Anonymous No.723508594 [Report] >>723514831 >>723517307 >>723522861
>Beloved by normies
6, 7
>Patrician choices
4, 8, 9 (6 used to be here, but normies adopted it so they could "well actually" each other)
>In for a good time
10, 12
>Good for its day
1, 3, 5
>Play it for the story
2
>The beginning of the end
13
>Modern slop
16
>Modern slop with homos
15
>MMOs
11, 14
Anonymous No.723508604 [Report] >>723508682
>>723508029
Assuming this is real, what "level" filtered you?
Lots of us beat the game on original hardware.
Anonymous No.723508660 [Report] >>723508742
>>723508029
anyone have that image of an anon whining about grinding in VI ? You're just bad.
Anonymous No.723508682 [Report]
>>723508604
the random encounters on the floating continent are basically rng, you have to get completely lucky to not get an automatic game over like 12 times in a row
Anonymous No.723508742 [Report]
>>723508660
Bad at what, not wasting hours of my life grinding in the early game?
Anonymous No.723508756 [Report] >>723509214 >>723510479 >>723511778 >>723527094
As someone who doesn't know much FF, I always see anons shit on the games 8 onwards, calling them either gimmicky or full of retarded decisions.

What happened after 7?
Anonymous No.723509214 [Report] >>723510236 >>723527094
>>723508756
>What happened after 7?
It went from fairly generic fantasy characters to a weirdly anime/J-pop aesthetic, some games more than others, This probably started in 7 but the graphics were too privative to notice.
Anonymous No.723509218 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
Ive basically exploited every time I played this game as a kid by setting the menu to remember your last actions and do the raft loop trick with bannon and leaving the game on overnight. Or in the case of zsnes doing that with turbo mode on. So those characters on the raft get insanely high levels compared to everyone else.
Anonymous No.723510236 [Report]
>>723509214
>It went from fairly generic fantasy characters to a weirdly anime/J-pop aesthetic, some games more than others,
But enough about FF7
Anonymous No.723510479 [Report] >>723511118 >>723523023 >>723527094
>>723508756
8's gameplay is a huge casual filter as the haters couldn't comprehend the junction system. I'd have to explain it in great details but it just boils down to retards couldn't get into it and mainly why its hated.
Anonymous No.723510681 [Report] >>723512608 >>723514523
>>723506690
the remastered shit looks THAT bad? holy fuck
Anonymous No.723510835 [Report] >>723511225
>>723508029
Anonymous No.723511118 [Report]
>>723510479
You could farm death to max proc percentage in the first couple hours of the game. It wasn't difficult, just tedious and uninteresting.
Anonymous No.723511225 [Report]
>>723510835
replace all those cross outs with nazis, senior SS officer, hitler, and nuclear weapons/experiments
Anonymous No.723511778 [Report]
>>723508756
After the release of VII they started chasing full action grafics instead of focusing on the story/atmosphere instead
Anonymous No.723512608 [Report]
>>723510681
Really depends on the tv anon
Anonymous No.723514182 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
as others said, any order is ok. just pick whichever most appeals to you. i went 7 (modded), 6 (PR), then 9 (steam) and loved them all. probably wouldn't start with 9 though. 10 was boring
Anonymous No.723514523 [Report] >>723515014 >>723517170
>>723510681
FF6PR looks as bad or as good as you want. That's the beauty of gaming on a PC baybee.
Anonymous No.723514657 [Report]
>>723508029
Dude if you got filtered by fucking FF6 you should just not play RPGs.
Anonymous No.723514831 [Report]
I'd say not to play 9 if you're planning on marathoning the series.
>>723508594
i'm going to smack you
Anonymous No.723515014 [Report]
>>723514523
>gambling tables

Do any of the games have black jack?
Anonymous No.723515182 [Report] >>723515296
>>723503957 (OP)
>making Ragnarok into an esper instead of a sword

KWAB
Anonymous No.723515296 [Report] >>723516261
>>723515182
Qrd?
Anonymous No.723516227 [Report]
>>723504142
Don't forget the ivalice games like vagrant story and tactics being connected
Anonymous No.723516261 [Report] >>723516386
>>723515296
It's just a choice you can make to either keep an esper or have a blacksmith turn it into the best sword in the game. This guy chose to keep the esper which is objectively the wrong choice.
Anonymous No.723516386 [Report]
>>723516261
*second best, it turns into the best sword if you bet it on the coliseum and win the battle
Anonymous No.723516403 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
FFVI is a great place to start, one of the best in the series. I'd also say VII is equally a good place to start. Followed by IV or V.
Anonymous No.723516585 [Report] >>723517257 >>723517678
>>723506212
>6 is the pinnacle of the 2D games
bro it is just SaGa for people too retarded to play SaGa
5 is easily the peak of the 2D games and also not a bad SaGa
Anonymous No.723516893 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
I think every FF until about FFX-2 is dreadfully boring and you would be better served just watching a story review.
Yes that includes tactics and TA1 and 2.
Anonymous No.723517170 [Report] >>723517342
>>723514523
>blonde
fake fan, fake gamer
Anonymous No.723517257 [Report]
>>723516585
5 is peak 2D gameplay. 6 is 7's prototype. 6 beats 4 and 5 in visual presentation and that's about it. The magicite and stat growth mechanics in 6 are absolute dog ass. FF would not have another solid character growth system until fucking 10. Maybe 9 if you find its simplicity passable.
Anonymous No.723517307 [Report] >>723523075
>>723508594
>6 used to be here, but normies adopted it so...
holy shit you are fucking annoying
Anonymous No.723517342 [Report] >>723520647
>>723517170
Green hair Terra is Dobson Obsession Over Pink Haired Link tier mental illness.
Anonymous No.723517558 [Report]
Tina's super famicom sprite has green hair simple as
Anonymous No.723517589 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
Just play FF7 and be happy with it, nobody will blame you.
Anonymous No.723517678 [Report]
>>723516585
don't you mean chrono trigger clone?
Anonymous No.723517748 [Report]
>>723506368
>anthology series
>you MUST play in release order
>no i don't care that the first 4 games are garbage you HAVE to play them all
Anonymous No.723517750 [Report] >>723517898 >>723518853
1-3 are the best
Anonymous No.723517898 [Report]
>>723517750
3 is just 5's prototype. Outclassed in every way by it.

And both merely crawled so FFT could fucking sprint.
Anonymous No.723518853 [Report]
>>723517750
I 'know' I played 1, I THINK I played 2 (did you fight a giant scorpion in a pyramid fairly early game?), which one was 3 again?
Anywho, Alexander Vs Bahamut in FF9 is best cinematic.
Anonymous No.723519185 [Report]
>>723505802
>9 literally is the best one
you don't say?
Anonymous No.723519265 [Report] >>723519831 >>723520143
>>723503957 (OP)
8>9>powergap>4>6>X-2>7>5>X>2>1
Anonymous No.723519660 [Report] >>723520842
>last 3 ff games still include ff13
Holy fugg
Thank god for the fans been playing ff renaissence recently and it fucks hard, square could never
Anonymous No.723519831 [Report]
>>723519265
but why did IX have four disk,did the FMV really take that much space l?
Anonymous No.723520143 [Report] >>723520223
>>723519265
I honestly wonder what metric fans of 8 use to place it at the top. Like if you just like the world, characters, music, story that's totally valid I'm not here to be an asshole. But as a video game? Its so completely broken its mind boggling.

The most effective way to grow your characters is to unlock Diabolos immediately, turn encounters off, and play the game as a choiceless visual novel and card game with the occasional genre shift to JRPG for the boss battles.

Which, I mean I guess in fairness its one of the best role playing card games ever made?
Anonymous No.723520223 [Report]
>>723520143
It's a pretty good card game.
FF8's not my favourite, but I won't deny its' card game is fun.
Anonymous No.723520565 [Report] >>723520918 >>723522463
>>723504579
8 is the fucking worst one. I did what OP did years ago, played 5 then 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, then 10
8 was by far the worst. Worst story, worst gameplay, worst characters
Anonymous No.723520647 [Report] >>723521696 >>723522226
>>723517342
Why do they use green hair in other iterations of the character over Amano's color choice?
Anonymous No.723520842 [Report]
>>723519660
16 - 15 - 14
those are the last 3 retardkun
Anonymous No.723520918 [Report] >>723522463
>>723520565
8 is the worst but it gets broken the easiest of any of the games. Once you learn how to cardmog and junction shit like cure 3 and ultima to your characters 2 hours into the game. It does have some pretty fun battles because of how quickly you can break the game.
Anonymous No.723521010 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
>Terra
Magic/Speed
>Locke
Strength/Speed
>Cyan
Strength/Speed
>Shadow
Magic/Speed
>Edgar
Strength/Speed
>Sabin
Magic/Speed
>Celes
Magic/Speed
>Strago
Magic/Speed
>Relm
Magic/Speed
>Setzer
Magic/Speed
>Mog
Magic/Speed
>Gau
Magic/Strength
>Gogo
N/A
>Umaro
N/A
Anonymous No.723521181 [Report]
>>723508472
I hated this boss so much.
Anonymous No.723521290 [Report]
>>723505802
I replay it less than any of the other classic ff titles. 4 and 6 are my most replayed. 2 3 8 9 are my least replayed.
Anonymous No.723521498 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
> FFIV: Must play.
>FFV is skippable but good for the job system wank not much plot.
> FFVI: Play if you enjoyed 4 and like plot games.
> FFVII: PS1 version or bust or any port of the PS1 version the new one is not the same.
> FFVIII/IX: are skippable, 8th's system is notoriously bad but story is decent, 9 kind of average Fantasy.
> FFX: Playable, not bad at all starting point, respects old games while being the modern Final Fantasy others take cues from a lot moving forward. (Style/Setting/Presentation.)
> FFXII: Ehh, forgetable.
> FFXIII: Not really like the old titles at all and its down hill from here.
Basically my thoughts.
Anonymous No.723521557 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
If you want to play them all I’d start with the worst ones first so you don’t realize how bad they are: 13, 16, 15, 2, and 6 in that order.
Anonymous No.723521696 [Report]
>>723520647
Hmm?
Anonymous No.723521853 [Report]
>>723508029
I hate 6 because there’s too much dialogue. It feels like the prototype for a ps5 game
Anonymous No.723522226 [Report]
>>723520647
Because the blonde prototype looked too much like Short Haired Celes and the SNES can only display like 16 fucking colors on screen at once so a nuanced dishwater blonde color was out of the question.
Anonymous No.723522463 [Report] >>723522582 >>723523143 >>723524087 >>723525302
>>723504579
>>723520565
>>723520918
VIII is objectively a masterpiece. This is not a matter of opinion.
>But I felt
You felt wrong. In terms of gameplay, it's probably the best, outside of Tactics and X. In terms of story, it's easily better than
>I-V
>XI-XIII
>XV+
and rivals most of the others. The game is warm nostalgia for a time of your life that you'll never get back and may not have even existed.
Anonymous No.723522582 [Report]
>>723522463
I love 8 but 11 is the best game in the series up to ToAU. I don’t care if you want to downvote it because it’s an mmo. the class system is better, the story and characters are better, and the music is the best in the franchise
Anonymous No.723522818 [Report] >>723534797
>>723505772
What would possess you to pretend you don't know what XIV is? It's one of the most popular games of the last decade, particularly on /v/. It's the most profitable Final Fantasy game by far, and it's basically the only thing keeping the series alive at this point.
Anonymous No.723522861 [Report]
>>723508594
>2
literally what story
Anonymous No.723523023 [Report]
>>723510479
The Junction system wasn't filtering anyone, it was just shit. It incentivized you to stall and drag out fights and also to never actually fucking use the spells you were drawing, it was way too complicated and it also pulverized any sense of characters being different from each other. It was Materia but finickier and more complicated and Materia had plenty of problems.
Anonymous No.723523074 [Report] >>723523142 >>723523571 >>723524712
6, 7, 8, and 9 are the good ones imo. Everything after that is so ass and you can find better jarpigs to spend your time with. A case could be made for playing 1-5 but they're not as good as 6-9.
Anonymous No.723523075 [Report]
>>723517307
No, he's 100% right. I die whenever I see VI on /v/'s best games ever list—not because the game isn't deserving, but because you faggots are only voting for it because it makes you feel special and patrician. Seriously, fuck you. I played the game on the SNES. I know how good it is. You're not allowed to use it as a mascot for your identity. It is not OK to like games because you think liking them makes you better.
Anonymous No.723523142 [Report] >>723525327
>>723523074
kill yourself X was a masterpiece
Anonymous No.723523143 [Report] >>723523263 >>723523267 >>723523368 >>723527545
>>723522463
Trying to insist 8's gameplay is good is nonsense. It's broken as all hell and the level scaling just flat out makes the game worse.
Disc 1 of it has the best story of the series that far but then it rapidly goes to shit.
Anonymous No.723523263 [Report] >>723523578
>>723523143
truth nuke. 8 is my favorite game but damn imagine if it ended at disc 1 but was more fleshed out
Anonymous No.723523267 [Report] >>723524759
>>723523143
Disc 1 of Final Fantasy VIII is the best Final Fantasy game of all time. Unfortunately the game keeps going.
Anonymous No.723523368 [Report] >>723523609
>>723523143
You don't remember what it was like playing it blindly. I do. For one, the game isn't difficult, but none of them are. The level scaling is a non-issue, because you don't even notice it happening. The junctioning system wasn't a bug, it was a feature.

IT WAS FUN to junction spells to your stats. IT WAS FUN to gain elemental attacks that way. IT WAS FUN to give yourself a percentage immunity to status afflictions that way. It made you want to collect spells solely for buffing your characters. It made you want to unlock more junctioning abilities from GFs. It was addicting and far less straight forward that the materia system, which made it more engaging.

>rapidly goes to shit
Most of the best stuff happens later in the game, like the missile base infiltration, Garden vs Garden battle, and space travel.
Anonymous No.723523571 [Report] >>723524945
>>723523074
5 and tactics are better than every other game in the series
Anonymous No.723523578 [Report] >>723524816
>>723523263
Don't worry, FF8 Remake will make Balamb Garden 50 hours.
Anonymous No.723523609 [Report] >>723523746
>>723523368
Look, the junction system is a fascinating idea and I really wish Square had had a chance to refine it over new iterations in subsequent games, so that we could see what a good implementation of it looks like.

But it's not good. I cannot blame them for dropping it instantly and never looking at it again. The FF8 incarnation is just… It's not even just that it's bad. Literally every merits it may have had exist in such a context as to erase them and emphasize the flaws. It's not just that the junction system has problems; it's that the junction system exists in the same game that also inexplicably has level scaling, so you are faced with stupid incentives like carding enemies instead of ever gaining a level or hitting certain level thresholds to draw specific spell lists. It's not just that the junction system is broken, it's that the junction system exists in a PSX game where navigating the UI to check your magic list, exchange spells between characters and compare different junction benefits is incredibly inconvenient and takes forever, so you're disincentivized to actually try things out and explore the depth the system has to offer.

It takes less than an hour for a new player experiencing Final Fantasy VIII for the first time to realize: 1) More spells to junction means more power to your stats, so you should find the weakest enemy you can Draw from and spend the next half-hour drawing 100 of each spell they have, 2) actually casting your spells depletes your junctioned stocks and weakens you so you should hoard them like a dragon.

The system is shit.
Anonymous No.723523746 [Report] >>723523968
>>723523609
doesn’t really matter you can just spam switch to get free limit breaks.
Anonymous No.723523968 [Report] >>723524375
>>723523746
That is another, entirely separate problem. 95% of this game's mechanics are going to go completely ignored because the system is begging you to break it in half.

The weapon upgrade system doesn't matter, because you can raise your strength to the cap through Junctions pretty trivially. GFs are so interesting but there is no reason to fucking bother with the GF upgrade system because the natural incentives created by the game is to split your GFs three ways so that everyone in your party is loaded up with every ability and junction. The second you engage with Triple Triad the game immediately snaps in half and never recovers.
Anonymous No.723524087 [Report] >>723524267
>>723522463
IX would have been awesome but they had the bright idea of bosses not giving any XP & tying abilitys to equipment instead of your characters
Anonymous No.723524267 [Report] >>723524521
>>723524087
Equipment-tied ability is fine and the menu parts of IX are some of the best in the series. The actual problem is that ATB was very poorly implemented and moment-to-moment combat gameplay feels bad. Everything moves slow as balls and when you set the actions you're basically blind as to when they're actually going to unfold even if it all takes forever to happen.
Anonymous No.723524375 [Report]
>>723523968
I’m agreeing I’m just saying hard to pin it all entirely on the junction system. I still enjoyed the combat but you do have to employ restraint to make the most of it
Anonymous No.723524521 [Report] >>723524743
>>723524267
>Equipment-tied ability is fine
It's vanilla and grindy. It somehow managed to be worse than VI's system, which came out years prior.
>and the menu parts of IX are some of the best in the series
What in the holy fuck are you talking about? Literally nobody shares your opinion. The best parts of IX, in terms of gameplay, are the minigames. But the ability system and combat were slow, agonizing, and underdeveloped.
>The actual problem is that ATB was very poorly implemented and moment-to-moment combat gameplay feels bad
We can agree on this.
Anonymous No.723524712 [Report] >>723524907
>>723523074
Fuck 8. 6, 7, nodded 9 are the goat. What are some better JRPGs than 1-6?
Anonymous No.723524743 [Report] >>723524840 >>723524935
>>723524521
The problem with VI was that every character felt the exact same. VII had this problem but less because of Limit and VIII only made it worse because it actively incentivized you to make every character the same.
I didn't feel IX was like that. Even though each character could only equip a handful of abilities at a time, they played differently and how you compose your party genuinely mattered. This system obviously doesn't have the breadth and flexibility of Junction or even Materias but that is, in my opinion, to its benefit. There's less choices but it's easier to navigate.
Anonymous No.723524759 [Report]
>>723523267
Its weird how hard it fell off.
Anonymous No.723524816 [Report]
>>723523578
You joke but that be kino as fuck.
Anonymous No.723524840 [Report]
>>723524743
That said, Trance sucked. Fantastic idea, horrible execution. I loved most of the Trance designs but like half of them were completely useless. Quina's was an insult.
Anonymous No.723524907 [Report] >>723525114
>>723524712
Suikoden and xenogears are worth checking out. Persona and SMT have their moments. Pokemon can be fun. I haven't played DQ yet, but I hear great things about 7 and 8.
Anonymous No.723524935 [Report] >>723525168
>>723524743
Thats my issue with 7? I dont get at all how you felt that way about 6? Especially with 2,3,5,X-2,12? and 15.
Anonymous No.723524945 [Report]
>>723523571
Tactics is good, but thats a different animal.
Anonymous No.723525114 [Report] >>723525237
>>723524907
Xenogears is my most aged like milk game. Best game on the PS1, unplayable by 2022 standards.
I think you or someone keeps recommending Suikoden to me, I really do need to check it out. Same with the others, good list.
Anonymous No.723525168 [Report] >>723526652
>>723524935
The Magicite/Relic/Class system was a strict downgrade from VI's jobs. Magicite both breaks the game open and dilutes characters' uniqueness because it's all magic spells that can be learned by anyone, so no one has unique strength and weakness and in fact the player is incentivized to sand off their edges and round out their build to make everyone omnicompetent, which dilutes their specificity and makes them bland. The Relic system fails to have the strong focus of the Job system because any Relic that could give a unique class command could instead be a straightforward stat boost or status immunity.

The job system wasn't perfect by any means and had its flaws, but the entirety of FFVI plays out like FFV's endgame, where the characters' unique builds started to dissolve into average when you got enough ABP to train 'must-have' skills on all your characters and so everyone was either a multi-hitting tanky fighter or an omnimage capable of casting everything with Summoner's Magic Stat and Monk's HP. That was when the game lost what made it so good to play, and FFVI is like that pretty much the whole way through.
Anonymous No.723525237 [Report] >>723526480
>>723525114
For sure. Also play earthbound and mother 3 if you haven't yet, they'rw pretty neat. I didn't mention it because it has a reddit reputation but it's at least worth checking out.. could be right up your alley.
Anonymous No.723525302 [Report] >>723525731
>>723522463
So what makes it objectively a masterpiece..?
Anonymous No.723525327 [Report] >>723525391 >>723526936
>>723523142
Anonymous No.723525334 [Report] >>723525432 >>723525528 >>723525602
FF8 filtered millions.
FF9 trooned millions.
Anonymous No.723525391 [Report]
>>723525327
I kneel.. my image got corrupted. You win this one ffxfag
Anonymous No.723525432 [Report] >>723525539
>>723525334
Ultimecia is the most fucking robbed character in the entirety of this franchise. My girl literally had nothing. no twist, no backstory, no reason to do anything she's doing. Fucking FF8.
Anonymous No.723525528 [Report] >>723525596
>>723525334
Troons hate FF9 because of Beatrix.
Anonymous No.723525539 [Report] >>723525889
>>723525432
Still better than Necron
Anonymous No.723525596 [Report] >>723525648
>>723525528
I have never met anyone who even cared about Beatrix. I have met more people who cared about Brahne of all people then her.
Anonymous No.723525602 [Report] >>723525804
>>723525334
FF8 is doo doo. Don't be a contrarian.
Anonymous No.723525648 [Report] >>723527179
>>723525596
Every single Rat furry bastard lover hates Beatrix. Watch any stream of FF9 and you'll see the seething hatred they have for Beatrix.
Anonymous No.723525731 [Report] >>723527839
>>723525302
Music and storyline, mostly. The soundtrack speaks for itself, but, so let's just focus on the story:
>more comedy than most Final Fantasy games; constant straight man/funny man routines, with Squall cringing at some idiocy going on around him
>softer, more idyllic tone than the rest of the series; focuses on the halcyon days of youth, school days, young love, the romance of a knight and his sorceress, etc
>hook of mysterious dreams you keep seeing of another man in another place, who is completely unknown to you
>much of the story being a replay of long forgotten childhood dynamics (Seifer acts out and is brash to get attention, Zell acts tough because he was a scaredy-cat growing up, Squall pushes people away because he lost his nee-chan, etc)
Then there's Squall himself, who is such a fun protagonist. He's aloof and unfriendly, kind of like Cloud, but keeps the act going much longer and is more committed to it. He basically gives everyone else nothing for the first half of the game, until he's thrust into a position of leadership he never asked for.
Anonymous No.723525804 [Report] >>723526303
>>723525602
Contrarian? It's one of the best selling in the entire franchise. It's literally the best selling in Japan, as I recall.
Anonymous No.723525889 [Report]
>>723525539
Necron at least has no buildup. I'd rather have his inexplicable out of nowhere appearance then spend the entire game hyping up Ultimecia and it turns out no, they didn't think of any payoff whatsoever, she just kinda is doing this for reasons
One is a wtf moment, the other is a betrayal.
Anonymous No.723525904 [Report] >>723526001
>>723503957 (OP)
If you want to experience the series origins and are okay with some jank, FF1 is still worth a play and it's a good starting point being the first game.

Then for the 2D games 4,5 and 6 are good, but the best experience is probably 6 if you're trying to narrow things down.

For 3D titles, FF7 is the most iconic and the original is still worth a play. FF9 is I believe the original creator's favorite and is a love letter to the series, if you only play one FF9 is one of the best.

For the modern era, FFX was the first and is still worth a play, it's one of the few to get a direct sequel because of how popular it was. After that Final Fantasy went towards MMORPGs and that affected the rest of the series, FF12 is probably the last one that still feels like a Final Fantasy game.

Best are probably 6,7,9 and X. You can add 1 and 12 if you want to experience more of what the series has to offer (and then probably 4,5 and 8 if you still want more).
Anonymous No.723526001 [Report] >>723526675 >>723526884
>>723525904
I think 4 is worth it as a piece of history because it's FF's first actually successful attempt at a grand epic. It's also pretty good by itself, I think.
Anonymous No.723526204 [Report]
>>723504579
Pick any from 4-10 or maybe play a modern version of FF1. 9 is a celebration of 1-6 so you should probably leave that to the end
Anonymous No.723526227 [Report] >>723526987
>>723503957 (OP)
Final Fantasy 9 is the only final fantasy that i found genuinely soulful, well-written, adventurous and just feels coherent with consistent theme. Amazing OST as well.


Also was the last game where Sakaguchi was properly involved in, and happens to be his favorite. Coincidence?
Anonymous No.723526303 [Report]
>>723525804
Nope. It tapered off compared to FFVII. FFVII sold like 3.9 million units, FFVIII only sold like 3.5 million.
Anonymous No.723526480 [Report]
>>723525237
Earthbound was amazing. I definitely need to play Mother 3. Suikoden and Mother 3!
I got halfway through the first nes game. Did you play it and does it get better?
Anonymous No.723526578 [Report]
I started with VII or KH1 if that counts
Anonymous No.723526652 [Report] >>723526912
>>723525168
That makes sence. I forgot about the magicite system. I heard theirs a great difficulty mod for 6. I really need to check it out, most of my runs I barely pay attention to it. Some added difficulty could make me appreciate the systems.
Anonymous No.723526656 [Report] >>723526692
>>723504849
XIV is a themepark MMO. No other FF actively references shit other than "There's always a guy named Cid, there's chocobos, crystals, and magic".
Anonymous No.723526675 [Report]
>>723526001
That's fair. It's a tough call between 4 and 6 because like you said they're both some of the best 2D games. 5 is good too for the flexibility of the Job system and Four Job Fiesta stuff but it doesn't stand out much on its own, it good if people like 4 and/or 6 and want more similar stuff.

It really comes down to how much time someone wants to spend with the series. If you're only going to play one 2D Final Fantasy I really think 6 should be the one since it iterates on what came before. If you're playing two 2D Final Fantasies though then 4 is probably the next best one.
Anonymous No.723526692 [Report]
>>723526656
9 is references: the game though
Anonymous No.723526884 [Report] >>723527235
>>723526001
I dont know if its a cultural thing, I really hate 4. The story pissed me off. Yet Im told Japan consistently ranks it near the top.
As much as I dislike it though the grave on the mountain is in my top 5 final fantasy moments.
Anonymous No.723526912 [Report] >>723527383
>>723526652
Here you go anon just keep in mind this hack is known to be extremely brutal & difficult it was made by a one man army/jap that had massive time on his hands & went stir crazy adding in TONS of new content

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6339/
Anonymous No.723526936 [Report] >>723527145
>>723525327
Ive never seen that?
Anonymous No.723526987 [Report] >>723535424
>>723526227
FF9 was the originator of the 'comfy atmosphere - no substance' genre that women and trannoids love so dearly.
Anonymous No.723527094 [Report]
>>723508756
I think out of the original games after 7 only 8 catches flack. That's largely because it radically changed the level up mechanics to the intuitive junction system and like >>723510479 said that filtered/frustrated many players, like >>723509214 mentioned when for a much more anime/jpop aesthetic, and story-wise tried to do both a saving the world and romance story at the same time and kind of fumbles both.

8 still has strong points but I feel like it's better if you already understand the mechanics from a guide or such and maybe have a story summary and temper your expectations going in.
Anonymous No.723527145 [Report]
>>723526936
someday gen alpha will look at terry davis the way we see mark gormley
Anonymous No.723527179 [Report] >>723527273 >>723527290
>>723525648
Fuck Beatrix. Possibly the best character in the series and we get her for 10 minutes.
Anonymous No.723527235 [Report]
>>723526884
There's a lot to dislike about 4. I don't like how Golbez just was mind controlled so nothing he did was his fault. I don't like how Zerowhatever shows up with no explanation. I don't like the final villain or Cid pretending to sacrifice himself.

But at the same time there's a lot to love, like Cecil's paladin test and the entire dropping the dark knight class arc which was really fun and had some cool integration with gameplay. I like the first section of the game with the summoner village, Tellah's Meteor. FF4 is a really ambitious game like FF6, 2 and 3, and that means it's also constantly falling flat on its face when it can't pull off the insane shit it was trying to.
Anonymous No.723527273 [Report]
>>723527179
>When she lost her purpose in life until she found it again when she found Eiko's love letter for Zidane but thought it was meant for her from Steiner.
Anonymous No.723527290 [Report] >>723527509 >>723527861
>>723527179
Eh, I don't get what's there to care about her. Oh, I killed a ton of people and I feel vagiely bad about it (but I won't do anything about it, I'll wait for things to resolve themselves). Boo hoo. Steiner deserved better then this boring bitch.
Anonymous No.723527383 [Report]
>>723526912
Awesome, thanks!
I forgot my ps5 at my parents cabin so this could be perfect well Im jonesing for tactics.
Anonymous No.723527509 [Report]
>>723527290
Valkrie appeal in a jap series.
Anonymous No.723527545 [Report] >>723527896
>>723523143
>Trying to insist 8's gameplay is good is nonsense. It's broken as all hell and the level scaling just flat out makes the game worse.
Broken games can be fun, tight balance is not necessary for gameplay to be good. That said, the level in VIII is pretty dumb. Level scaling ideally shouldn't discourage leveling.
Anonymous No.723527593 [Report] >>723527682 >>723528246
Tired of niggas not saying play in order
Anonymous No.723527650 [Report] >>723527761 >>723527992 >>723528370
I've been playing 6 recently and a lot of the "impactful" moments barely last 2 sentences.
Someone dies? 1 line and moving right along.
Complicated relationship? 2 lines and moving right along.
Plot twist? 3 lines and moving right along.
What gives? I have no time to process what's happening and barely give a shit about any of the characters. FF7 is VASTLY better in character writing alone, any Final Fantasy "fan" saying 6 is the best in the series is downright lying.
Anonymous No.723527682 [Report] >>723527803
>>723527593
Who is saying that?
Anonymous No.723527761 [Report] >>723527902
>>723527650
Welcome to the early days of video games, before "cutscenes" formally existed.
Anonymous No.723527803 [Report] >>723527895
>>723527682
Everyone except for one guy
Anonymous No.723527839 [Report] >>723529316
>>723525731
None of what you said proves that the game is a masterpiece... you just briefly described the tone of the game and literally nothing about gameplay either.
Anonymous No.723527861 [Report] >>723527965
>>723527290
Japs absolutely love their "wholeheartedly loyal to the obviously evil and incompetent lord and will carry out the most outrageously cruel of orders despite feeling vaguely guilty about it" characters.
Anonymous No.723527895 [Report] >>723529875
>>723527803
Are you asking for advice or not? Just play them in any order you feel like, look at screenshots of the games and see what you like the look of and play that. Read a summary of a game and you're good.
Anonymous No.723527896 [Report]
>>723527545
My opinion is that a game should encourage you to do things that are fun. Balance is part of this, bit the main issue with FF8 is that the game heavily incentivizes you to play in a way that's just miserable, by virtue of Junction/Draw making it so it's optimal to never use your spells to not weaken your Junctioned stocks and also making it the recommended course of action stalling until you've drawn 100 of every spell you can. It just isn't very fun.
Anonymous No.723527902 [Report] >>723528039 >>723528145 >>723530930
>>723527761
After 5 other games they should've figured it out by then. Hell, 4 and 5 knows how to linger on moments. 6 just makes me wonder if they ran out of space to fit more dialogue.
Anonymous No.723527914 [Report]
IV, VI and VII are the only good ones.
Start with VI.
Anonymous No.723527965 [Report]
>>723527861
The part that annoys me is that we have another character who is conflicted about serving his evil lord and eventually learns to defy her to do good. Steiner is literally here and he's just... paired with a worse version of himself. It annoys me.
Anonymous No.723527992 [Report]
>>723527650
This is true of movies, books and life in general. In these games there is a great conflict going on. And the only major deaths were Cyan's family. And that wasn't brushed aside quickly.
Anonymous No.723528039 [Report] >>723529237 >>723530930 >>723531325
>>723527902
6 has some weirdness around things being too quick, I agree. Like that scene where Kefka poisons the river and everyone in the castle just dies. It's a strong emotional scene but it's just like instantaneous and it kills all actual believableness in it.
Anonymous No.723528145 [Report] >>723528382
>>723527902
>After 5 other games they should've figured it out by then
The entire fucking world had not figured it out by then.
They experimented with more emotional beats in Live A Live, but it was still a breakneck pace. When they made Chrono Trigger, they found more of a balance than they had in previous games, but Chrono Trigger is still a game that moves from beat to beat with relative pace, only having a few moments of downtime and digestion late in the story.
FFVII was really a landmark in video game storytelling, you know.
Anonymous No.723528246 [Report] >>723528793 >>723529283
>>723527593
Yeah, they should be playing it in the English order.

>1 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 8 > 5 > 9 > 10 > 2 > 12 > 3 > 13 > 15 > 16
Anonymous No.723528370 [Report] >>723529136
>>723527650
6 doesn't waste remotely as much time as 7 did with pointless plot shit. You could strip out half of 7's cutscenes and nothing would change.
Anonymous No.723528382 [Report]
>>723528145
Yeah, if you play through the six first FFs you can basically watch the evolution timeline of JRPG storytelling, from FF1's almost excuse plot and flat characters, to FF2 trying to be dramatic and heavy with stuff like exploding all the towns but not having the characters developed yet, to FF3 figuring out the mentor figures and some rugpull tricks like THE WHOLE MAP BEING A DECOY, to FF4 actually managing to make nuanced characters and a journey of redemption then faceplanting on the rest, to FF5 playing with mechanics to convey plot with Galuf vs. Exdeath...
Anonymous No.723528793 [Report] >>723528995 >>723529285
>>723528246
If you are 50.
1>7>8>9>10>5>6>1(Actually get past the first boss)>2>3>4>12>13>15>16
Id be curios to know the normal zoom zoom order.
Anonymous No.723528995 [Report] >>723529517 >>723530689
>>723528793
I got this wrong. 12 came out before roms became common and 5 came out. Man FF11 was old? That must have been one of the First MMOs ahead of WoW?
1>7>8>9>10>12>5>6>1(Actually get past the first boss)>2>3>4>13>15>16
Anonymous No.723529136 [Report]
>>723528370
Or, pad it to 180 hours...
Anonymous No.723529237 [Report] >>723529898 >>723530930 >>723531325
>>723528039
>Kefka poisons the river
>Somehow everybody drank it except Cyan for some reason
>Somehow nobody noticed the strange color or smell
>Somehow everybody drank it at the exact same time instead of periodically dropping like flies
Anonymous No.723529283 [Report] >>723529339
>>723528246
Nasty. Also you're supposed to stop at 13 [LR] just so you can understand what nuked the series and you VILL play all of Ivalice in tandem AND 11
Anonymous No.723529285 [Report] >>723529517 >>723529556
>>723528793
>1(Actually get past the first boss)
A shame no one plays the NES original these days where this was a wall to people who didn't RTFM or grind gil, compared to the later releases.
Anonymous No.723529316 [Report] >>723529418
>>723527839
We've covered the gameplay ad nauseam, anon. As for story, it's a masterpiece in its details, not broad strokes, like VII with its twists.
Anonymous No.723529339 [Report]
>>723529283
>VILL play all of Ivalice in tandem AND 11
I know I did.

>Also you're supposed to stop at 13 [LR]
I still say LR has one of the best combat systems of the series. A shame about the rest of the game though. Least it's not long.
Anonymous No.723529418 [Report]
>>723529316
Not that anon, but while I agree VIII has good story moments overall I think it really stumbles by trying to do too much and not following through with any particular thing. What do you like about the story?
Anonymous No.723529507 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
1 through 3 is like a proof of concept, 4 through 10 is the golden age, everything after is mmoslop and mediocre but for some reason people like 12.
Anonymous No.723529517 [Report] >>723529664 >>723529680
>>723528995
Old enough to be a Squaresoft title (in japan)
>>723529285
It's the same in Wonderswan and PS1 versions is it not?
Anonymous No.723529556 [Report]
>>723529285
Its crazy how we went from Breath of Fire 2 grinding, to loving FF9 with 15 second battle load times we never noticed, to zoomers watching ecelebs play games... sped up 1.5x.
Anonymous No.723529614 [Report] >>723529839 >>723529875
Is there a version of 9 that is playable? I played it on the PS1 when it came out and the battles were unbearably slow.
Anonymous No.723529664 [Report] >>723530236
>>723529517
>It's the same in Wonderswan and PS1 versions is it not?
Those ones gave you starting gil and basic character loadouts from the get go, rather than everyone naked like NES.
Anonymous No.723529680 [Report] >>723530101 >>723530479
>>723529517
Im now fascinated. I want to talk to some FF11 oldheads. Predating WoW 2 years and still flopping is intresting.
Anonymous No.723529730 [Report]
As long as you never touch a single entry after 12 there is essentially no wrong choice.
Anonymous No.723529839 [Report] >>723529938
>>723529614
Does the haste spell not exist in IX?
Anonymous No.723529875 [Report]
>>723529614
Image search this >>723527895
Supposed to be some mod that makes the masterpiece even 10x better. Not sure what its called and if you need steam or not.
Anonymous No.723529898 [Report] >>723529974
>>723529237
It's been awhile but didn't he say "anyone that so much as touchs the water will die"?
Anonymous No.723529938 [Report]
>>723529839
>Does the haste spell not exist in IX?
Dumb faggot. I didn't say "battle speed" I said "battles"
>camera swirling around for 5 minutes
>overall sluggish mechanics in battle
>more slow bullshit after battle is over
Anonymous No.723529974 [Report]
>>723529898
Only after the first guy next to him drops dead.
Anonymous No.723529995 [Report]
Stranger of Paradise is the best FF with no budget.
Anonymous No.723530101 [Report] >>723531348
>>723529680
>and still flopping is intresting.
.....you are aware the game is still supported 23 years later, right?

>they made Malignance easier to get
Holy jesus fucking shit. I had to do that fight over 255 fucking times to get my full set. I wonder how much that shit turned off players.
Anonymous No.723530236 [Report]
>>723529664
You start naked with 400 gil in the PS1 version.
Anonymous No.723530479 [Report] >>723530583 >>723531348
>>723529680
XI flopping? What? Are you referring to the Abyssea shitstorm?
Anonymous No.723530583 [Report]
>>723530479
>Abyssea shitstorm
Unironically YoshiP's fault too, of ARR fame.
Anonymous No.723530689 [Report] >>723531082 >>723531241
>>723528995
>12 came out before roms became common
Your timeline is WAY off. We were passing freeware and roms around in diskettes in the late 90s. The era of "common" SNES roms was like 2000, 2001, not 2006. I was playing fan translated Dragon Quest 6 while waiting for FF9 to come out. This was all done by kids sharing word of mouth and passing physical disks around. By like 2003 we were going to shady websites with horse porn banner ads to get this shit. It was all happening extremely fast.
Anonymous No.723530930 [Report]
>>723527902
>>723528039
>>723529237
6 is paced like a play. That's literally it. You just have to be used to or open to dollhouse presentation or narrative truncation. This sort of pacing gets less and less common the less abstract the medium is so you see it die quickly in visual media with more literal presentation like movies and video games.

You're not supposed to take the events literally 1:1. Its a telling. You play through the events in Doma and are meant to recall the broad strokes and fill in the minutia. A siege that lasted months ending in the slow poisoning of an entire nation locked out of alternative water sources, not the 20 second montage we're shown.
Anonymous No.723531038 [Report] >>723531434 >>723532505
>>723503957 (OP)
Can be played in any order. Can do it chronologically to see the series evolve, but it might burn you out. Can do by popularity with the spiked popularity. In case you dont know XI and XIV are MMOs. Both have linear stories, but they are fucken massive and require subs to play on top of buying the expansion packs.
Anonymous No.723531082 [Report]
>>723530689
Snes9X was 97 and generally in use by 99/00, pirate websites any everything.
PSX shortly after and n64 took longer to be actually playable.
Anonymous No.723531241 [Report]
>>723530689
Maybe I was too old or too Canadian but 2006 was when I was introduced.
Anonymous No.723531287 [Report] >>723535858
>>723503957 (OP)
6 and 7 are the only ones worth playing
Anonymous No.723531325 [Report]
>>723528039
>>723529237
FF6 was maxing out the cartridge space they had budgeted for production, to the point that the SNES English localization was all-caps just to make it fit. I figure if they had more wiggle room, some of the dialog/cutscenes would be more verbose.
Anonymous No.723531348 [Report] >>723531669
>>723530479
>>723530101
So what was the game like in 2002. Any stories? I remember ultimate having a MMO I knew 1 kid that played but this must have been pretty unique for the time.
Anonymous No.723531434 [Report]
>>723531038
This is fucking amazing, love it.
Anonymous No.723531669 [Report] >>723531884
>>723531348
>So what was the game like in 2002.
Force socialization. The game opened up and just threw you into your starting of city with nothing more than a little cutscene prior, and then you were told to fuck off and figure out the rest via talking to NPCs and other players, because this was the era of no universal wikis for MMOs, and the MMOs themselves barely told you fuck-all about the inner workings or quest progression/underlying systems.

>Any stories?
Everyone thought Valkurm Dunes was a snowy area, because the ground exposure was so fucking bright it was near pure white on the PC release, despite the beach trees about.

Earlier in the game's life also (before late-era of its 2nd expac, mobs that chased players would SLOWLY walk back to their spawning radius. This led to a lot of mob-trains in very specific zones that linked with other mobs of the same family, causing a pile of them to be at the entrance for awhile. This had the effect where a player would zone in and appear dead, because the 10+ mobs would just aggro+link you while you were still loading in (game was capped to dial-up rates, so zoning was a 6s process at minimum, and even then, you wouldn't see other players/enemies for a good 10s).
Anonymous No.723531884 [Report] >>723532076
>>723531669
>This led to a lot of mob-trains in very specific zones that linked with other mobs of the same family, causing a pile of them to be at the entrance for awhile. This had the effect where a player would zone in and appear dead, because the 10+ mobs would just aggro+link you while you were still loading in (game was capped to dial-up rates, so zoning was a 6s process at minimum, and even then, you wouldn't see other players/enemies for a good 10s).
So a little ahead of its time.
Anonymous No.723532076 [Report]
>>723531884
Annoyingly, the game is still dial-up rate limited to this day. If you're a masochist and have the original discs, you can still run the game on Win98SE since it never moved beyond DirectX8.1, nor did they do anything to break support for that last I checked a couple years ago.

Doesn't matter anyways, since killer mob trains don't exist anymore, as they eventually just made de-aggro'd mobs fade out and respawn at their home a minute later. Made it harder to fuck with RMT that were botting Kings (highly contested world spawns) which spawned anywhere between 3-5 days after the last ToD. Used to have Beastmasters Charm nearby aggressive mobs (made them a Pet), and then release them near the RMT so it'd aggro them instead.
Anonymous No.723532182 [Report] >>723533320
>>723503957 (OP)
III or IV are probably better starting points because they're where some of the biggest series staples came into play. And while I wouldn't say you should play I on the NES(at least without researching it a bit first), the GBA and later remakes aren't bad either. V is the game that really cemented the concepts of the series' job system(though this system isn't used in all the games either).

VI is somewhat odd in that the first half the game is linear, while the second half has some mandatory bits but otherwise gives you the option of doing everything or trying to instantly brute force the final dungeon and boss. Each character has specific abilities, but you get the option to teach anyone any spell you want.

VII decouples the job system from characters turning everything into equipable crystals that level individually and can be swapped around depending on who you feel like using(it also has the most barebones itemization of the entire series).

VIII's gimmick is that you get all your magic by sucking it out of enemies, gaining uses of that spell rather than having MP. You can use them up as a limited resource, but you can also attach them to a character's stats to boost them instead, with the more of a spell you have = the bigger the boost.

IX is basically a return to III mechanically, while also giving each character a very defined archtype.

X and XII both have a large board that allows you to unlock various stat boosts, the spells, and abilities. Each character starts out in a particular place on this board, making it easier for them to be built as a particular job, but also gives you the ability to branch out or go an entirely different direction if you're willing to grind.

XIII and XV both suck. They suffer from poor writing, and have combat systems that take away a great deal of your control from battles outside generalizations.

XVI is "Final Fantasy decided it wanted to be both Game of Thrones and Devil May Cry today."
Anonymous No.723532341 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
Behold, the only true entry point list

If you like 2D sprites :
- FF5 : The best gameplay. Story is fine if a bit flat but the freedom of builds make the game.
- FF6 : One of the game of all times. One of the best and most unique stories in vidya, even today. Shit ton of characters, long af, best graphics so far, great music, great gameplay, great everything.

If you're a zoomer who can't into SNES graphics :
- FF7 : The other game of all times, obviously. Again, everything is fantastic, as long as you're a scholar that enjoys the prerendered screens and the lego characters.

If you're a brocoli hair faggot who think FF7 looks caca :
- FF10 : The first real 3D one. Gameplay is fantastic, on par with 5. Personally I find the characters and story to be a piece of shit, but if you are as described above you'll probably think it's good like the vast majority of people who started with 10.

Pick whatever and then just go chronologically from there I guess, although if you picked 10 the only road is downwards really.
Anonymous No.723532505 [Report]
>>723531038
>ports and remasters
>separates FF7R
>for some reason combines all versions of everything else, especially 3 and 4
Gay, also terrible artstyle
Anonymous No.723533143 [Report]
Midnight bump
Anonymous No.723533295 [Report]
4, 6, 7 and 10 are good starting points. 5 is really great gameplay wise but the story and characters are bit lighter side. 8 is great but I recommend having played some standard starters first, like 6 or 7.

9 is really slow and it was designed homage to the first 9 games and you'd better off having played at least some of the earlier ones to appreciate. 10 is the last good main line entry. It was first to have VA dialogue and it got rid of world map which was integral eploration mechanism for the earlier entries.

5, 7, 8 and 10 have the most customization and player agency. The 7 has the perk of having Advent Children movie and Crisis Core leading up to the Remake and Rebirth. You are not allowed to play Remake or Rebirth before having played OG and be familar with Advent Children and CC
Anonymous No.723533320 [Report]
>>723532182
>IX is basically a return to III mechanically,
No, it fucking isn't, you absolute retard. Holy fucking shit, stop outright lying just because you can't stop glazing IX. It's ability system sucks. It's combat system fucking sucks. The game is good IN SPITE of those massive, massive detriments.
Anonymous No.723533401 [Report] >>723533551 >>723534218 >>723534497 >>723535440
>original game has spell charge system
>remake completely ditches it
Disgraceful
Anonymous No.723533551 [Report] >>723534226
>>723533401
>Pixel Remaster adds it back
>Game is still piss-easy regardless because it utilizes the lvl99 system and leveling scale that the PS1 version added
I'm still annoyed the PR versions didn't have an OG-difficulty option in it for purists.
Anonymous No.723534218 [Report]
>>723533401
It was literally just D&D wasn't it?
Anonymous No.723534226 [Report] >>723534369
>>723533551
Pixel Remaster also got added Ethers, removed the Peninsula of Power, never added the feature to turn auto-target back off, and refused to commit to giving Fighter his red hair back.
Anonymous No.723534369 [Report] >>723534472
>>723534226
>never added the feature to turn auto-target back off
Are you talking about the thing the NES original did, where targeting a mob who just died acted as a miss?
Anonymous No.723534472 [Report]
>>723534369
Yeah, it's in the NES version. Though the PSX port had it as an option. Afterwards they never cared enough to make it an option. So much for a faithful remaster.
Anonymous No.723534497 [Report] >>723536236
>>723533401
>all white mages

that's actually possible!?
Anonymous No.723534797 [Report]
>>723522818
sorry anon not everybody can into numbers m8
Anonymous No.723535102 [Report]
>>723503957 (OP)
You should play I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII (then Remake + Rebirth), VIII, IX, X, X-2, XII, XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns FF XIII, XV, XVI, Tactics, World of Final Fantasy and Stranger of Paradise.
Anonymous No.723535424 [Report]
>>723526987
the fuck are you talking about? it's LITERALLY the opposite.
FF9's subtle and honest, but highly intelligent and beautiful atmosphere is the patrician's choice.

zoomers, femcels and trannoids don't want exactly that. they want direct and chewed DRAMA and OMG DEATH!! yoooo is she CHEATING??? constant dopamine hit plot twists and retarded artificial relationship issues. practically look at any modern anime, which is extremely popular among these people. Complete polar opposite of FF9s style. And if you think that FF9 doesn't have substance because of this, you're a brainlet AND might be one of the two archetypes you mentioned yourself
Anonymous No.723535440 [Report]
>>723533401
So uhh where's the background?
Anonymous No.723535715 [Report] >>723535928 >>723536210 >>723536665
>everybody hating on IX

You guys are crazy after VII & 8 it's a breath of fresh air that harkens back to the original SNES titles!

Literally pushing the PSX to it's limits
Anonymous No.723535858 [Report]
>>723531287
Anonymous No.723535928 [Report] >>723536149
>>723535715
My biggest issue with 9 was its garbage load times.
Anonymous No.723536149 [Report] >>723536286
>>723535928
It should have had voice overs like X to really sell the high fantasy setting
Anonymous No.723536210 [Report]
>>723535715
>Brought Final Fantasy back to its SNES roots by make the combat worse than any of them!
I like IX as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic here. It wasn't as much of a throwback as people claim it was. For one, the crystals are completely nonexistent, until some obscure nonsense in the last 20 minutes. Secondly, the game heavily focuses on romance in a way that was far closer to the PSX/PS2 era, rather than the NES/SNES era. On top of that, it was filled with Final Fantasy VII style twists, like Zidane being an artificially created alien, sent to the planet to kill all its inhabitants.
Anonymous No.723536236 [Report] >>723536331
>>723534497
Of course? A classic challenge is solo white mage
Anonymous No.723536286 [Report]
>>723536149
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Anonymous No.723536331 [Report]
>>723536236
I don't think I'd have the patience to do any solo run, simply because dungeon runs are a complete RNGfest where you just want to Run away from everything possible except the bosses, and grabbing the bare minimum to proceed. Do all the grinding outside or near a town.
Anonymous No.723536587 [Report]
I played FF6 and FF7 before I played FF9 but FF9 is the first one we completed (twice actually).
I would recommend starting with 9. I think it's got the most "entry" level vibe to the FF series, endearing story and characters, enough skill customization, etc. etc.
Anonymous No.723536665 [Report] >>723537006 >>723537047
>>723535715
My wife had "The place i'lll return to someday" played when her dad walked her to the altar
Anonymous No.723537006 [Report]
>>723536665
Cute
Anonymous No.723537047 [Report]
>>723536665
>based anons wife