Thread 723508442

You have upgraded to windows 11, right anon?

im gonna install garuda ilnux

nigga im still on windows 7

>>723508442 (OP)
Waiting on Win12. Always skip a generation of Windows have you learned nothing?

i still have another year of w10 updates tho

>>723508521
Saar do not do this.
You leave you comptooter open to virus from boba on strange website

I'm not leaving

>>723508442 (OP)
only when im literally forced too
until then i aint movin

>>723508768
I'll never understand why they replaced Riku's iconic Way to the Dawn keyblade with this piece of total shit.

>>723508442 (OP)
I upgraded to Linux Mint

>>723508518
I spent a day playing around with Linux mint, that's really nice but just too much fucking around in general from finding alternative software, putting in password all the f time to messing around with terminal where it tells you to fuck off if you used the wrong upper or lowercase.. Linux is just so much extra work all for muh privacy. I cba with all that

>>723508659
indians have compoopers, not comptooters, anon

Yes.

>>723509478
what a pleasant desktop wallpaper

>>723509478
I'm so sorry

>>723508442 (OP)
>upgraded

>>723508961
They probably had some more ideas with the revamp of Riku but I think they just wanted him to look full final fantasy, so they went with the giant car key. Its not bad but old one definitely better

>>723509958
Yeah although I called it what I did I don't hate it in a vacuum, it's a nice change from how wacky a lot of the designs are, but as a replacement for the unique keyblade that perfectly summarizes his character it's just ridiculous

I'm using 11 since june 2021, STOP FUCKING ASKING

Don't see any reason to upgrade to W11 when I have no interest in it.
Besides, I can just swap over to a Linux distro of my choosing and dual-boot.

>>723509117
>complaining about password prompts when it's literally the exact same thing as windows UAC
retard

>>723508961
Because Way to the Dawn represented his road to redemption. He already earned that redemption. One cannot pay penance forever.
So he outgrew it and opted for a greatsword to replace it.

>>723508442 (OP)
buy an ad, pajeet

>>723508442 (OP)
Yeah, on my work computer, and I fucking hate it and it already led to an embarrassing situation. Fuck you.

>>723508442 (OP)
Yeah, and don't like it, looks bad, compatibility is way worse

>>723508617
>Win12
Will be an Ai-powered, stream/cloud-only, monthly subscription

>>723508442 (OP)
I've been on Windows 11 since it came out because I early adopted a 13600k and at the time Windows 10 couldn't run it properly due to the outdated CPU scheduler

I regret nothing, works great

>>723508442 (OP)
The hard drive on the only remaining puter in my house with W10 is making death rattles, so I'll be completely on linux once I replace it. I never paid for windows before, but now I also never will!

>>723512287
Don't forget Recall, which Windows 11 already has on x86-64 (it doesn't, but make sure to tell people it does so we can recruit for our gay furry pedophile cult).

Is Pop_OS any good? I heard it's good for gaming.

>>723508442 (OP)
>you ARE using my bloated distro, right anon?

>>723508442 (OP)
Yeah, went there straight from win7.

>>723508442 (OP)
10 IoT LTSC

>>723508442 (OP)
I'm on LTSC 2021. I've got until 2027, then I'll use IoT until 2031 or whenever all my software stops working.

>>723513062
>gayyyming
CachyOS

>>723509478
Anon you really should have your files either on RAID6 or on a 10G connected NAS

>>723508442 (OP)
Why would I downgrade to Windows 11?

>>723508768
I’M NOT FUCKING LEAVING

>>723508442 (OP)
I did day 13 and actually is not that bad. You guys always overblown everything. I didn't lost any performance while gaming and this is all I care about.

>>723513290
Doesn't RAID 6 have worse write times compared to a RAID 5 since it has to do double the parity or something like that?

>>723513604
thank you for review saar

>>723513604
Rajesh I'm surprised you could even afford internet access in your sunnipunni mud mound

>>723513062
>poop_os

>>723508442 (OP)
No, I installed Arch Linux instead. Proton for Steam games and Lutris for the rest. I don't give a fuck about not being able to play Fortnite's multiplayer.

>>723513987
You are clearly on a virtual machine. Is Windows still your host OS?

>>723513987
>VM

Why is there a windows thread up on /v/ 24/7? Is Microsoft paying pajeets to spam this shit?

>>723514415
>You are clearly on a virtual machine

No, why would you ask that?

>Is Windows still your host OS?

No, but I do have it on a 2nd drive just in case a game is finicky and won't work with Proton / Lutris

>>723514558
That's just a screenshot from Google Images

>>723508442 (OP)
>You have upgraded to windows 11, right anon?

I did, but i use startallback to have an actual full taskbar on all my monitors.

>>723514606
>why would you ask that?
>Qemu
>2 allocated cores of a CPU
>A modern system with 4gigabytes of ram

Yes, why indeed would you be asked about your virtual desktop.

>>723514846
That's a screenshot from Google Images

>>723508442 (OP)
I made the switch after the announcement of Recall, that was like 2 years ago now I think?
I'm good, no more Windows.

>>723508442 (OP)
>You have upgraded to windows 11, right anon?
No, why would I? I just grabbed my free security update extension for Win10.

>>723508442 (OP)
naw, I'm getting a raspberry pi to install Mint on it to start to get used to it and they down the road make a full switch on my main machine.

>inb4 dualboot
I'm not a friend of dualbooting for some reasons and also all my 3 Hard drives have a role.

>>723514975
Why would Itagaki be signing Doom 3?

>>723514975
Recall isn't a real thing that anybody has to deal with.
>but what if in 2 years Bill Gates makes your computer explode?!
Yeah, sure. Enjoy your fake outrage.

>>723508442 (OP)
no im not downgrading to windows 11

>>723515209
I don't care if they actually spy or not on me, why is that shit even there? Why the fuck OneDrive tries to backup everything without asking? why I have to deal with it in the first place?
Shit feels like I'm sharing my computer with another person, I'm not dealing with this anymore.

>>723515424
>why is that shit even there?
It's not there, so why would you ask that?
>Why the fuck OneDrive tries to backup everything without asking?
Never had that happen. You have to set up OneDrive manually after installation, so you literally chose for it to happen.

>>723508518
Hell yeah.

>>723515732
Both of those things happened after an update when I did a dualboot.

>>723515898
Don't have Windows connected to the internet. Only dual-boot into Windows if a singleplayer game doesn't work on Linux

>>723515898
You got Recall after an update? Show it running on your x86-64 machine. You can't because you're a fucking liar.

no need. arch + xfce just plain works.

>>723515979
I don't really use Windows for anything anymore, but if I had to later on I guess I'll have to keep it offline.
>>723515990
I uninstalled that same day lol also I'm not going to switch just for that and risk Windows taking one of my drives hostage again because of Windows Hibernation bullcrap.

>>723508442 (OP)
No, I got the free local account ESU and I'll be staying for another year.

>>723516190
So you're not only a liar, but someone too retarded to delete his hibernation file. Check.
Recall does not exist on x86-64. Not a single one of you Indian linux shills has been able to show it running.

>>723516329
>linux shills

Linux is free, doesn't spy on you, and has better performance than Windows. There's no "linux shills"

>>723516329
Stay mad if you want kek, I don't even blame anyone for still using Windows but I like it better here

>>723516431
>doesn't spy on you
lmao
>has better performance than Windows
yeah because no games

>>723508442 (OP)
The modern Windows experience:
>Windows has some annoying behavior
>there is no user-facing setting to change it
>there's a group policy setting, but actually whoops it doesn't actually work
>only way to actually get Windows to stop doing gay shit is to go deep and fuck with the registry and system files
>doing so results in system instability that turns Windows into way more of a ticking timebomb than it already is
>either performance degrades to an unacceptable level or Windows straight up bricks itself
>reinstall Windows
>repeat from step 1
Linux desktop still has issues, but my games unironically run more stably on a fresh Bazzite install than a fresh Windows 11 install.
I don't want to be a Linux hipster -- I just want an OS that works.

>>723516483
>stay mad
You literally lied and couldn't back it up. That proves anyone who uses free software is brown (and therefore dishonest).
>>723516431
Dishonest marketing is shilling. Lying is dishonesty, no matter how much the book of Ganesha tells you it's justified.

>>723508442 (OP)
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

>>723516686
>potato PC
>literally called Mangina

>>723516739
Sneed

>>723514975
kek

>>723516739
An i7 CPU, 16 gigabytes of memory, and a GTX 1080 video card is a "potato PC"? I can kind of see the 1080 is a mid-tier card today, but keep in mind that Linux is able to give better performance on it.

>>723516956
I have a 1080 and I see not the faintest reason to upgrade. There is not a single thing I want to play that needs a beefier card.

>>723516660
Strange. My modern windows experience was
>install enterprise/LTSC
>everything just werks
>have 0 issues for years

>>723516956
Only people sacrificed to Moloch (aka millennials) would consider 16 gigabytes of memory as "not enough".

Keep consuming, goy.

>>723516956
>I can kind of see the 1080 is a mid-tier card today
Entry level cards like RTX4060 are 60% faster than the GTX1080. It's not a mid tier card anymore.. unless the median release date of the games you play is like 2016 in which case yeah I can see why you would think it's still a good card.

>>723517254
Keep consuming, goyim.

I transitioned to Linux:3

>>723508442 (OP)
>You have upgraded
Yes.
>to windows 11
No.

>>723516668
Just for you Anon, went back into my messages the day it happened because I remember sharing it to a friend, but you can stay upset.

Windows 12 will eliminate crime, with windows AI monitoring your browsing and downloading habits it will be able to report probematic people to the authorities. Are you ready for a secure and peaceful society.

>>723516052
>xfce
I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe

How long will it be before windows 10 is no longer compatible with steam? that's basically the only reason I switched from windows 7 in the first place. honestly i'll probably switch to linux or maybe even just console gaming exclusively instead of using another windows OS because it's been nothing but one anti-consumer downgrade after another from them since win7

>>723517630
>ronununu Zelda
based

>>723508442 (OP)
fuck no im on windows 10 till i can be bothered to switch to steamOS

and no i didnt even get the faggot LTSC version for faggots fuck that

>>723517630
The Copilot app is not Recall in the slightest. You're a lying retard.

>>723518994
This script is getting boring

>>723518880
Probably like +4 years would be my guess

Steam does not support windows 7 and 8 as of 2024 - this doesn't mean it won't run on it, just that they won't care if it doesn't work for you.
W7 came out in 2009 so 2024-2009 = 15
W8 came out 2012 so 2024-2012 = 12
W10 came out 2015 so 12 years from 2015 is 2027, 15 years from 2015 is 2030.

2030 would be my bet.

>>723519102
>calls you out on a lie
>one of the conditions of shilling literally requires being dishonest
>but I'm the shill for telling the truth
>and apparently a bot
BEEP BOOP LINUXFATS ALL LIE BEEP BOOP

No and I never will. Fuck you and fuck your shilling faggot. SAAAR. SAAAAR BLOODY BITCH BASTARD! DO NOT REDEEEM SAAAR! I CURSE YOU! VISHNU A PUSSY! VISHNU GET FUCKED IN HELL BY SATAN.

DO NOT REEDEEEEEEEEM.

Surely W12 is just around the corner and will be better than W11 right bros?

>>723508442 (OP)

Literally added a 2nd SSD to try out Linux Mint and in the process of backing up my stuff in case I mess things up. I will never move to Windows 11. They went too far with all their crap.

>>723518948
Too bad I didn't save the name of the artist, it was a small account.

>>723519351
A linux update bricked my SSDs and screamed my social security number over a PA.

>>723513429
Shit, you already found Windows 12?

>>723518880
Windows 7 still works on steam, so probably atleast 10+ years

>>723508442 (OP)
i've been on loonix for years now.
unironically installed windows 10 on a separate drive just a few days ago because i wanted to play BF6 with my boys but don't want windows recall AIDS on my computer.

GUYS HELPPP!!!!! MY WINDOWS 10 LAPTOP SPROUTED LEGS AND WALKED OUT OF MY HOUSE! IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VIRUS! I KNEW I SHOULDVE UPGRADED! I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED!!!!

>>723508518
>pajeeta linux

>>723514839
Source for Morrowind chill video? I'd like higher quality

>>723516686
At least use endeavourOS if you wanna baby arch

>>723519303
Maybe if society comes to its senses and the CEO of Microsoft gets publicly executed.

>>723508442 (OP)
>Win11 forced update
>nothing fucking works
>hate it so bad nuke LC
>installed Win10 fresh
Fuck Microsoft. Once this PC hardware dies im going to Linux, forever.

>>723520530
You can shut up now

>>723517174
I had to do a lot of customisation in gpedit.msc and regedit on win10 enterprise, so while I'm not that guy I am not gonna believe windows 11 is just windows 10 but less bloated and with less settings that bother me.

>I bought a television with my own money now it belongs to me, why are there adverts on my television NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's what these threads sound like.
Just uninstall all the bloatware crap that comes with Windows, shit there's even tools on github that will execute all that for you and change the settings to prevent crap

>b.buuutttt muh Linux, it's just a learning curve bro then you'll feel like you're flying in space on sudo's big cock that I suck everyday OH VEYY

>>723520530
>>723523057
based hamburgcrab

I AM NOT SPENDING 280 HOURS FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET MY 500 PIRATED VST PLUGINS TO FUNCTION ON LUNIX!

Genuinely why would I?
No updates sounds nice.
Plus I donr feel like backing up all my shit

>>723521676
I was on Linux until I had to switch back to Windows for my company's proprietary software. I tried W11 for a bit, but it was completely unusable. Can't wait to abandon this sinking ship of an operating system.

>>723508442 (OP)
I have a year of free extended updates.
Then I'll just pay for the following years.

>Windows 11
Lol, I upgraded to Windows 12 a few years ago.

What linux distro should I install? Do video games work on mint?

>>723523916
I don't understand why people aren't outraged that Microsoft says you can have win10 updates but you must pay... Wtf is that?!
Imagine buying a DVD and half way through it stops to say you must pay to watch the rest...

>>723524030
Mint it's pretty noob friendly, you can run games through proton (It's an option you can check on Steam, for other games just add them to your library or run them through Lutris)

>>723508442 (OP)
Been using W11 Enterprise for years now

>>723524295
>I don't understand why people aren't outraged that Microsoft says you can have win10 updates but you must pay...
Don't use my wife for your retarded posting
W10 has had a decade of free updates during its regular life already

>>723508442 (OP)
no, i'm on puppy linux with a qemu virtual install of windows 11 with gpy passthrough. this gives me about 98% of my gpu, cpu, and ram. as soon as i'm done playing sloppa, i turn off windows 11, and load up linux mint for daily driving.

>>723508442 (OP)
Thanks, but I'm sticking with Arch Linux (which I use, BTW).

>>723513062
Bazzite seems to be the best Linux gaming OS at the moment.

>>723509117
>putting in password all the f time
>su
>do commands
>exit
SO HARD.

>>723524030
>Do video games work on mint?
Most steam games work fine but they run like shit. There are better distros for games but I've only tried mint so far.

When I say they run like shit.. Bad fps, occasionally stuttering, problems loading in textures and the gpu fans drowning out any chance I have at hearing the speakers.
I tried Linux mint mostly because w11 sends my fans screaming but so does Linux where as w10 doesn't so I'm sticking to that.

Also.. I tried Linux mint for the no bloat which is fantastic but then comes the headache of finding software that isn't mainstream, then having to run wine or virtual machines just to install those programs.. I mean if you work in I.T settings like programming or just any coding you'll be used to things like terminal and Linux will feel like home but for the average person that just wants to play vidya & watch porn then Windows is the obvious choice even if Bill gates is watching you jerk off to questionable anime.
I went back to 10, fuck it.

>>723514912
>I'm only pretending to be retarded!
We accept your concession.

>>723515979
>single-player
>not work on Linux
Nani the fuck, and why the fuck would I do that instead of saying "fuck that game" and moving to the next one?

There are many other games to play. Your single player shit doesn't want to work on Linux? Fine, fuck you, I'll move to the next one.

>W10 no longer supported
>suddenly I have microstutters when playing games
hmmmm really makes you think

>>723509478
>2tb os drive
i fell for this meme too. swapped it last month for a 500gb nvme. makes backing up so much easier too.

>>723516329
>Recall does not exist on x86-64
Yes it does. Also reminder it fucking showed EVERYTHING in plaintext and MS was so embarassed they had to push their automatic shoving it down your throat back years.

>>723517254
My 1060 6GB ran BF6 just fine. Cope. The 10XX line was fucking immortal. The only reason I finally upgraded (to an AMD card for Linux) is because Death Stranding 2 probably would want a 20XX minimum due to Sony's retarded lack of optimization on their shit.

>>723521225
Srry anon don't have it, got the webm from a thread here some time ago.

>>723508442 (OP)
I've been on 11 IoT LTSC for awhile.

>>723508442 (OP)
No, eat shit. I installed Arch and I am happy.

>>723508442 (OP)
... Maybe

>>723525737
How do you get an LTSC licence?

>>723508442 (OP)
mmnyo. I still have a decade to use w10 ;)

>>723525992
MAS

>>723508442 (OP)
>sends screenshots of your current screen every few seconds to the Microsoft database "just in case"
Nah I'm good.
If i ever do it'd be to use in an offline gaming PC so they cant gather my data.

>>723508442 (OP)
I bailed to linux over being forced to move to Win10.
Having an AMD igpu helped a lot in the decision too.

>>723526027
Okay thanks. What's MAS...
>microsoft asshole sucking

>>723524971
How is it? Daily driving Puppy, I mean.
I thought that was just a pet project

>>723525737
what's the difference between iot ltsc and the other versions?

>>723526257
i don't daily drive puppy, i just use it as the inbetween for mint, which is my daily driver, and windows 11, which i use for gaming.

>>723526027
>>723526154
How the fuck is it that easy. Also sounds like a pain having to do that

>>723526607
It's quite literally copy/pasting a command and that's it.

>>723508442 (OP)
I'm on Windows 11 and I can't even update to 24H2 because of retarded Microshart pajeets unable to force it because of SSD firmware incompatibility lmao

>>723526607
>massgrave
Why do you trust this shit

>>723526308
It only gets security updates, not feature updates. Occasionally features are actually important components and shit will break because it’s designed for static environments where you never install new software but don’t expect anyone to admit it.

>>723526821
Why wouldn't you? Everything they offer is either directly from MS or open source.

>>723526916
What if the website gets hacked

i just installed it and it feels really different but im not sure why. is the task bar a lot bigger? it feels like everything on the screen is "higher" than it was on 10.

>>723526939
>it feels like everything on the screen is "higher" than it was on 10.
Subliminal ZOG reprogramming

>>723525174
>newfag catchphrase

>>723526938
What does that even mean? You can see where the downloads are from on the bottom before you even click, little bro. Is this your time on the computer?

>>723525478
too bad but OK, I'll try to find it.
OK, I've found it
https://youtu.be/O2KVtsW665c

>>723526939
Most of the fonts/ui are blurrier than 10

>>723508442 (OP)
No, I upgraded to Mint.

>>723527085
I'm referring to the console command

>>723527445
The script is hosted on Github, which is owned by Microsoft.

>>723509478
how do you get that start?

>>723527085
I am really tempted & considering this now.
I thought a special licence was needed for LTSC, never would have guessed there was a crack for it never mind such an openly available crack without MS shutting it down. Don't you worry about security risks? They only do updates like 2/3 times per year don't they? These systems aren't meant for everyday use it kinda feels like a ticking timebomb.

I guess I'm going to massgrave the w10 extended support for the time being. Will eventually go to w11 but I'd like to backup my C drive first.

>>723527587
LTSC gets updates every month. You can choose to install them or just ignore them.

>>723508442 (OP)
My computer can't run it

>>723508442 (OP)
Over a year ago, yes.

>>723527496
>Github, which is owned by Microsoft.
Wtf there's loads of stuff on github that goes against microshit, that's like keeping your stolen car at the dealership. How have they not shut it down

>>723527805
Microsoft has always been secretly okay with piracy because they'd rather have you in the Windows ecosystem than going to troonix or Mac. Pretty sure even Microsoft employees use MAS.

>>723515085
startallback is fucking nice. I had a friend who gifted me a license. He died and I don't have the key anymore so I bought one after a format. Such a simple program but the context menu and actually snappy, functional taskbar and start menu are worth it. The only reason I've put up with w11 for years now

>>723527576
StartAllBack
costs $5 though after a 90 day trial.
you should look for other alternatives if you don't want to spend money on this.

Been drinking and somehow misclicked
>>723527960
meant for
>>723514839

>>723528003
it's worth the 5 bucks, but you can literally hexedit the registry key to enable your license indefinitely.

>>723508442 (OP)
Fuck it I might just get steam OS

>>723528003
thanks bro

>>723508442 (OP)
Yeah.

>>723527940
Yeah MAS is basically an open secret. It's why I find it hilarious when people complain about having to pay for windows.

I just want my computer to have that Y2K look to it. I don't want flat pack or whatever the fuck. I just want my desktop and files to have soul

>>723528338
Basically I want Windows XP again. But like for today

>>723527940
I've heard about some instances of MS tech support using MAS themselves for customers with activation issues. Allegedly.

>>723528094
Thanks for this tip.
I followed this video tutorial.
https://youtu.be/FH5tizIMG90

That was surprisingly quick and painless to do.

>>723528186
Replying to you to give you a heads up on the hex edit.

>>723509478
>>723525737
>>723528220
Have you guys had any issues with 11 LTSC?

>>723528597
I know nobody pays for winrar but this program paired with some easy gpedits makes w11 completely usable, so I didn't mind chucking 5 bucks at the guy. It is a little annoying it's 5 per machine instead of just per user but whatever

>>723528697
>winrar
7zip is actually free and is better. Looks like ass though.

Srs question: is upgrading directly from Windows 10 viable or do I really need to do a fresh wipe and install for Windows 11?

>>723525318
So show me one x86-64 PC with it. Just one.

>>723527940
To be fair you do have a good point, even one of their high ranking employees went to write a book about evilsoft and how he's all for the Linux master race

>>723528780
>fresh wipe
I wouldn't trust Windows with anything else.

>>723528220
Firefly love

>>723528615
The only issue I had was a random update a few months back fucked the security permissions of my Nvidia driver and I couldn't change anything in the control panel without getting a permissions error so I had to clean install Nvidia drivers. That's pretty much it.

>>723528761
I also use and prefer 7z , was just bringing up winrar as the eternal example of an indefinite trial freeware. I do remember winrar having like one leg up on 7z re: .part files or some shit long ago but that's long past relevant

>>723528780
I prefer a clean install no matter what, but it's the same shit under the hood. Windows is surprisingly resilient when it comes to upgrades since they're all the same shit

>>723527117

If there's one vidya place I'd call home, it's Balmora.

>>723515119
>rasberry pee
Just buy some n100 or even n200 machine like MOREFINE M6

>>723528220
Holly fuck all that troon slop

.

>>723509117
>where it tells you to fuck off if you used the wrong upper or lowercase
Just press tab and it autocompletes

>>723528615
Back in August, I originally switched my Win10 install drive from CSM to UEFI to enable Secure Boot in order to run Battlefield 6, but that caused my computer to crash so I switched back to CSM for the time being.
Last week, I updated to Win11 on a fresh install and I got two crashes, but I suspect that is an issue due to having 16 GB of ram installed.

I know that 16 GB shouldn't be a problem, but for whatever reason, it's causing issues on my machine and that's why I ordered 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) as that seems to be the easiest fix for this problem. MoBo only have two slots.

I guess my issue is memory leakage, but I'm not computer savvy enough to confirm that that is the problem.

I didn't trust Microsoft. I don't want to be arrested for 2d images I have of children that don't exist. I know they will be able to see my files if I'm on Windows 11

>>723528780
Fresh clean 100% otherwise your PC will run like shit and some apps will fail too

>>723528980
are you actually getting into windows or are you failing your memory training? You might just have an unstable memory OC and need to pump more volts into your SOC and DIMMs. Consider look into safe voltage for your mobo/cpu and make sure your bios is updated.

A decent way to test stability is set up hwinfo64 to alert you on WHEA errors and run some stress tests like linpack, y-cruncher, aida64, and OCCT. OCCT handles the alerts itself but the payment model pisses me off

that or just play a modern frostbite game like BFV or battlefront 2. Shit hits your ram hard

>>723508442 (OP)
I had to update my motherboard to get Win11 support.
And after I installed the new BIOS from website of the manufacturer, my PC wasn't starting anymore. Shit sucks.

>>723529145
I have literally never had this issue ever. DISM never finds any issues with the windows install, it's stable, and everything is the same. Idk if it's how I'm doing it or what but I think the fear around it is largely from upgrading from xp to 7, 7 to 8, or 7 to 10. 11 was so similar to 10 that it didn't seem to fuck anything up. Like any drivers you use on 11 were all just 10's, etc

My OCD demands I do a clean install every time or my install feels "tainted".

>>723528835
>>723528872
>>723529145
Yeah I figured as much. I've always done clean wipes but Im lazy as fuck and was hoping that by nowadays Microshart has gotten it to a point where directly updating from one OS to another was functional and smooth

>>723528787
https://community.frame.work/t/what-is-the-situation-with-copilot-on-frameworks-with-the-ryzen-ai-chips/72053/7

>>723508442 (OP)
I think I really might go linux, /v/bros.
All these years Ive shat on linux for being incompatable with so much software and so many games. But now 11 just seems so much worse in every way.

What is the best linux distro for gaming right now?

>>723508442 (OP)
I am considering upgrading to win7

>>723529348
you can just try it and if the install is fucked, back up your important files and do a clean install. It shouldn't take long these days.

>>723529523
>asking for the best when you have no experience
Should be asking for the easiest for a newnigger to use, which I'm told is Mint.
t. considering the same switch

>>723528615
Windows updates have caused me some issues in the past. The most notable one was when my PC would occasionally refuse to shut down, permanently stuck on black screen. Then you either have to rollback the update or wait for them to issue a fix which will take them AT LEAST a month. Then there's an ongoing issue with GPU partitioning and Hyper-V, which they've introduced in june or july this year and refuse to fix it for some fucking reason. So you have to block all updates on the VM if you want gpu-p to work. I'm assuming it's not a widespread problem that only affects some hardware configurations, so they're probably aren't even aware of it.
Hardly an 11 or an LTSC issue though, more like a Microsoft issue. Honestly it's mind boggling, seems like they don't do QA at all.

>>723529267
Happened to me. I was able to eventually update my BIOS and enable UEFI. I recall having to take out the battery to get the MoBo to reset itself to get out of the dreadful black screen.

>>723529168
I'll copy and paste your post into my notes. Thank you.

>>723529368
I accept your hot dogs sold at the concessions stand in Dodgers Stadium.

>>723529738
>show me one
>is shown one
>flees with a newfag catchphrase
Here's more, from the horse's mouth:
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2024/11/22/previewing-recall-with-click-to-do-on-copilot-pcs-with-windows-insiders-in-the-dev-channel/
> UPDATE 12/6: With Build 26120.2510, we are welcoming Windows Insiders on AMD and Intel®-powered Copilot+ PCs to try out Recall (Preview) and Click to Do (Preview). Insiders across Copilot+ PCs can now preview these experiences in the Dev Channel.
You lose. Don't forget to kill yourself.

>>723529348
Microsoft gives a link to the mediatool that will create an ISO for the win11 then simple mount what that created and hit the setup.exe it'll ask if you want to keep files but always do a "keep nothing" full clean, they actually made it really simple surprisingly and it's all on the first link when you jewgle install w11

>>723529648
I havent used linux as my main drive before its true. But I am a software engineering grad and worked with linux many times. I know all the "important" command line syntax, though id need to keep my phone handy to look up most things.
Maybe its just my ego but using the easiest just because Im not a neckbeard feels wrong. I want the best linux, not babys first linux.

>>723529267
Holly fuck that sucks, we're you able to create a flash bios usb? I assume that's really the only way to do it or take out the little watch battery for 10 mins so the system resets itself

>>723524971
I love Puppy
The only distro I can always trust

>>723529703
google your CPU, ram speed, etc and see what comes up on overclocker forums and r*ddit. A lot of people have no idea how unstable their DOCP/XMP is and they usually require a little tweaking to be truly stable

>>723515085
How do i get that friend? I have the option for ESU when looking at my updates, but this seems different and more efficient.

>>723508442 (OP)
>forced login
>ads everywhere
>even more spyware than win 10
>basic UI is literally running in a web browser
>yet another layer of menus to click through everywhere
>TPM so they control what software you run on "your" computer
nah, I'm not installing your shit OS, not when linux is making strides

>>723529289
First issue I had when I did an upgrade was the calculator & paint didn't work, a simple reset fixed them but by that time I'd seen enough and so fresh install is always the way

>>723508442 (OP)
I'll just wait for Michaelsoft to offer me a free upgrade like they always do.

>>723530110
I had to do a system restore after fucking up something ROYALLY and a lot of random shortcuts for basic windows apps (formerly accessories) didn't work on first launch but were fine after that. I believe it uses similar mechanisms and you shouldn't worry too much, but if you have the time a fresh install is good for relieving paranoia

>>723529267
you have to be careful with bios updates sometimes. I had a gigabyte x370 mobo lying around from 2017 and this year wanted to put a 5700x in it for a friend and it needed an update to add cpu support. Considering how many bios updates there were between 2017 and 2025, jumping all the way to the newest version was literally spelled out as a bad idea on their website. I had to incrementally pick certain versions. Luckily I had dual bios in case it got fucked, God I hate motherboard bios chips

>>723530319
I did a fresh install and used my Win 10 Key. That worked.

>>723528780
Please consider doing a fresh install. Back your shit up first.

It might seem a hassle, but both at work and friends/family have reported weird slowdowns and in general waiting forever for stuff until I reimage their machines with fresh 11 and every issue went away. Its possible to troubleshoot it, but it involves digging way deep beyond what sfc, dism, chkdsk and cleanmgr can do for you. And then it's no guranteed something didn't break on the way.

>>723528615
People always seem to forget but iot ltsc doesn't come with Photos installed. So you have to either manually install it via powershell or stick with Photo Viewer which arguably isn't very good.

>JUST MOVE TO TROONIX!!!!
No.
I am never buying an AMJEETD LOLPU

>>723525174
Whose "we"?

>>723530319
Yeah what the other anon said, you can use your 10 key when installing 11. But I think you won't be able to use it to activate 10 anymore after that.

>>723529523
Pick any, don't think about it, pick any just to get started. As the other anon said, try Mint. Download the image, make a stick with Rufus, boot to it and follow instructions. Open the software manager, download steam, log in, press play.

Any issues appear just google "linux mint ." When you have gotten your feet wet you can start looking for other desktops or distros that look closer to what you want.

>>723530547
atleast cherrypick games people want to play

>>723530474
>using the default photo app

>>723530647
Yes I'd rather use first party software, and it's pretty good too.

>>723530709
>"I'd rather eat shit."

>>723530474
>>723530647
>>723530709
seriously though, and not that anon. use something else.

https://www.irfanview.com/

>>723530438
>>723530598
my windows 10 is not activated

>>723530772
Why? I'm happy with Photos.

>>723530638
Linux is not viable for the better GPUs.
Don't feel like downgrading to Radeolmao shit bricks.

>>723530796
Use MAS then.

>>723529523
I did a dual boot with both w11 and Linux mint to try them and desu they seemed very similar in performance though w11 gaming was way better by a long shot but the hassle or "learning curve" as lincux keep saying is something you have to ask yourself, is it really worth it?
I came to the conclusion that people who work in I.T or just love typing "code" will absolutely love Linux but if you hate typing like I guess most people do then you'll not like Linux so much. I mean once you spent the day installing all your main software you'll never really have to touch terminal again but is the microsoft spying on you worth the hassle?
As for installing games it's probably easiest to use a virtual machine running w10 within Linux then you can just download exe files and not have to chase around looking for .run files. There's wine & proton too but I never got around to testing those as much

Having said that.. As much as I dislike typing, messing around with terminal/ ms-dos etc does give a somewhat satisfying feeling knowing that you've told the computer what to do and exactly how you want it to execute the task unlike MS where it's all left click to accept.. Feels like Linux is a personal preference on superiority being sudo and not some left click cuck

>>723530826
nvidia drivers are actually decent on linux for more recent cards, they actually started putting effort into them this year

>>723526938
Retard.

>>723530547
>>723530826
You will never be a woman

>>723530919
>up to 60 whole fps difference between windows and troonix
>good linux drivers

>>723530390
>if you have the time a fresh install
It literally takes 5 minutes, probably equal amount of time as upgrading unless you have a computer made in the 60s...

>>723531114
excuse me for not having cherrypicked benchmarks from a yt vid from a year ago like you

Are any Linux distros viable on a laptop with a 4060 and AMD cpu? I have to travel a lot for work and I'm running out of patience with Winshit

>>723529523
>Mint
If you want a jack-of-all-trades OS that's very beginner-friendly and hands-off.
>Bazzite
For a hands-off console-like experience and low-fuss gaming focus.
>CachyOS
For bleeding-edge Linux gaming performance and deeper customization/control, but you need a willingness to do some tinkering.

If you go off the beaten path:
>Avoid debian
Outdated software for the sake of stability. For gaming it's not good to have old graphics drivers
>Avoid Gnome
Shit desktop weighted down by the spergs developing it
>Avoid manjaro
Adds a layer on top of Arch which can make it break more easily. Arch forks are already done better by CachyOS, EndeavourOS and Omarchy

>>723508961
A pair of scissors?

>>723531162
>year ago
>uploaded:1 month ago
>it's just starfield! Who plays startfield!
>16 games tested, some runs just as fuckes some just run better, just gamble your performance bro
Ok
Nvdia = no troonix

>>723530821
I wasn't. Photos has a bloated interface that takes up valuable image space, doesn't load up instantaneously after opening an image (1 second vs 1 millisecond), and it doesn't have browsing setting customization that suits my viewing habits.
I like Irfanview because it is lightweight and it does its job exactly as I want it to.

But you do you. Not gonna stop you from having an inferior experience.

>>723531304
>uploaded:3 years ago
sure buddy

>>723531209
Nobara better than both CachyOS and Bazzite for gaming on Linux

>>723531209
what about Gentoo? /g/ said i should install that one?

>>723531372
People say many things as a meme.

>>723531316
Okay.

>>723531353
Umhhh

>>723530886
>is the microsoft spying on you worth the hassle?
>W11 makes local accounts have more hoops than a damn arch install script (omarchy)
>sees picrel and doesn't inference the impeding outcome
ngmi, enjoy getting boiled by nutella, froggy

>>723531572
>create a Win11 USB Boot Drive using Rufus.
>it has a convenient option to automatically make a local account with my chosen username and skip all of the questions that Win11 would normally bother to ask you during install.

Thanks rufus.

>>723527496
Holy retard batman. The repo isn't owned by microsoft. Who the fuck cares if github is.

>>723514572
Yes, the shills urging you or I to upgrade right now is fool's errand. You should typically upgrade to new windows OS when it has more stability and right now it's not good time due to SSD file data being erased by windows 11 updates.

>Put Windows 11 PC to sleep
>It wakes up on its own again
>It's headless so a naughty USB device can't be blamed
How have they not fixed this?

I have been using 11 for ten months now.
Some bugs are still present, like when I enable a controller it asks me to install game bar for some reason while windows 10 didn't do that.
But there is no choice if you have newer hardware and wish to play games.

>>723531173
p-please respond

>>723531872
>guy is concerned out the massgrave website being hacked
>tell his that everything that massgrave has is from microsoft owned websites
>retard faggot here can't follow this simple line of reasoning

>>723532116
sounds like a typical setup, just try the usual recs like mint/fedora, you can run a live USB to see if everything works

>>723531693
>moving goalpost
>relying on third-party software to accomplish what was once a standard practice by the operating system itself
>sees this as an "own"
I accept your concession, samar

>>723530772
Based recommendation. That weird "can't delete things because you opened them in Photos, so you need to force-close shit in Task Manager" bug had been driving me nuts for ages.
t. techlet

>>723509198
ha

>>723532476
I've read about Nvidia cards not working well under Linux, how true is that? I want to use it for gaming, of course

>>723532482
I'm not even the same guy you replied to earlier.
I have no animosity towards you.

>>723511508
I understand that, it's just underwhelming as a replacement for Way to the Dawn, and would seemingly have nothing to do with his character in comparison. Although 3 was just bland in almost every regard anyway

Do drawing tablets work on Linux?
As in the pressure sensitivity and the software that have to be used with it?

>>723508442 (OP)
I tried w11 and my PC ran like shit so I'll stay with the actual upgrade being w10

>>723508442 (OP)
I was going to but my computer didnt meet the secureboot requirement or some shit.

>>723532960
on ltsc those requirements are optional

>>723532696
it's a lot better than it used to be but it still has some warts and you'll lose a little performance vs windows. suspend has been an issue in the past so you'd want to check that.
I played like ~20 next fest demos recently (rtx 3060) and only one of them had issues, but reading the reviews, it sounds like it was poorly behaved on windows as well. all my usual games work fine. some newer multiplayer games with kernel anticheat you'd be shut out of entirely.
try it out, you'll probably find issues and annoyances, it will come down to whether those are less than windows's (which was finally the case for me this year)

>>723508442 (OP)
No, fuck you. I'm not touching anything past 10, ever.

>>723532696
it goes game by game
Some game will work just as on windows or very close to it, some will run at 50 FPS vs 160 FPS same setting same hardware on windows
Really no way to know if Nvdia will run on Linux until you try it yourself, AMD just works universally

>>723533505
>possibly a 40 fps difference even
Yeah Linux is not acceptable for Nvdia GPUs yet

>>723508442 (OP)
Haven't really been a fan of Win10 and have been slowly migrating to Linux since 2020. Really cool to see games go from kinda shitty and unplayable to "Wow this perfect!". I still have a dual boot for Windows if I do need to use a tool that won't work no matter what on linux.

>>723508442 (OP)
no i was considering to wait on 10 and hope things got better but it isnt going to happen

>>723533340
>I'm not touching anything past xp, ever.
>I'm not touching anything past 7, ever.

>>723533340
People said exactly the same about XP moving to vista then 7 moving to 10.
Actually I'm hoping for a case like 7 to 10 where we skipped 8, being the same that we skip 11 and they give us a more stable 12

>>723533805
>more stable
nigga 11 is just 10 with a different skin

Windows 11 a shit. I will stay on Windows 10 until new games I care about no longer run on Windows 10.

>>723533805
Watch me, jew.

>>723508442 (OP)
i did, and nothing really changed all that much. /g/pol/ schizoids are fearmongering about le telemetry and all that shit just like the did with 7/8 to 10. 10 was the boogey man up until around 2020, and then no one seemed to care about windows 10 anymore.

>>723533868
11 is a privacy invading piece of pejeet shit.

>>723534043
Exactly like 10, yes.

>>723528220
>rtx 4050
.....absolute PLEB trash. Leave this board and never return

>>723534073
Not at all.

I have a Dell PC (an Aurora) but it comes with a TON of Dell bloatware and windows 11 Home.
Im genuinely worried about reinstalling windows 10 ltsc on it, i dunno if i'd fuck up some Dell drivers or if it'll brick or some shit.
This crap cost me like 4500 bucks, im too pussy to mess with it.
Yes i KNOW how to install windows ltsc on a typical pc, but im too pussy to mess with Dell's proprietary bs.

>>723534139
Very much so.

>>723534282
Just download the drivers from their website dude

>>723534410
Okay retard. Still never using 11.

>>723534282
As far as I can tell Dell provides chipset drivers and what not, so I'm not quite sure what you're afraid of. I'd go with 11 iot ltsc instead of 10 though.

>>723508442 (OP)
>windows 11
>25h2
>latest drivers
>copilot and recall ready
>vaxxed
i'm ready to game

capthcka AGP TD

卍解 天穹永忍 ! !

>>723534547
Don't really care what you are or are not using, lil bro.

>>723513062
It's fine, but it's stuck in 2022 due to System76 working on COSMIC, and this lacks things like HDR and driver updates.
Bazzite's the current shilled distro, and it's pretty good.

>>723534652
Okay little retard.

>>723508442 (OP)
no.

I'm sticking to W10 until I literally cannot play games on it, then I'm moving to Linux, probably CachyOS or something similar enough to desktop mode on the Steam Deck.

>>723534807
Okay big retard.

It's fine but for some reason transparency effects broke and don't work at all. Oh well.

>>723534502
>>723534554
Yeah i need to grow some balls and just do it... maybe someday once W11 Home really pisses me off with some AI/ recall forced update

>>723534834
You have a brain, congrats.

>>723531372
Gentoo is basically "you build your own hammer", everything is compiled from the source, you can tweak every little detail of everything and you must be very familiar with linux to use it, and as everything is compiled, it takes a long while to get a system up and running.
If you want to learn about every nut and bolt of the OS, it is the lowest way other than "linux from scratch".
But if you don't want to lose 10 years of your life, the other recommendations are better.

>>723530621
what confuses me about linux is that im never sure when to update or not. i mean the system leaves it entirely in your hands.

>>723534640
>卍解
lol i first thought it's some nazi shit... but then i remember that's how you spell BANKAI (from Bleach).
Ya got me dude...

>>723531372
You're getting memed. Same goes for arch or even cachyos. They're great distros but they're not meant for new users coming from windows.
Get yourself bazzite for gaming or mint for regular desktop work.

>>723534834
Why aren't you doing it right now? Getting into it will take some time and the earlier you start the better. You can already play basically every game that doesn't require a rootkit anticheat on linux.

>>723530886
I can't code and use the terminal as little as possible. The desktop enviroments have really evolved to just have a gui for everything for people like me who's primary use for an OS is to game. Currently on Manjaro and either every Steam game I want just runs, every non-steam game is automatically downloaded through Launchers like Lutris and Heroic.

As for .exe files, there's a tool for that, download Bottles, double-click an .exe and Wine treats it as if it was running on Windows for you. Im not telling you you're wrong, but I was in the same boat thinking linux meant having to compile my own games. Its not and since swapping two years ago I've had to help out friends with windows updates more often than I've had to troubleshoot my own machine.

>>723534923
Not sure if this'll help or not, but if you're on Win 11 , type on the search bar "adjust the appearance" , theres options to tick or untick in there.

>>723535072
>i mean the system leaves it entirely in your hands.
it does not no. mint, fedora, ubuntu and generally every distro meant for retards automatically update.

>>723535168
I'm a very "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kind of person, I might dual boot at some point to ease into it, but for now, what I'm using ain't broke.
Unfortunately, I've used W11, and that shit is broker than a $5 hooker, so I'm avoiding it like the plague.

>install 11 ltsc even though everyone shit talks 11
>it is completely fine
>no difference with 10 in day to day use

>>723535271
What's wrong with W11? I'm using it on my laptop for a few months now and had no issues.

>>723534834
>>723535168
Honestly im sticking to Windows cause i heard VR *and* AI shit doesnt work well or it's reaaally hard to get this shit working on Linux.
So uuuuh... fuck me i guess. Windows will have me by the balls until VR and AI work natively and easily on that damn penguin

>>723508442 (OP)
Is there a linux distro that works well from a USB or external HDD?
I have a change of scenery, and learn Godot without distractions. But adding a boot choice during PC loading and allocating HDD space seems gayfag desu

>>723535331
It wastes your processing power on AI shit, for one.
They are adamant about forcing AI down everyone's throat due to investing so much money into it. You can't opt out of it in a long term.
They also do whatever the fuck they want on your machine without your permission.

>>723535434
>It wastes your processing power on AI shit, for one.
Oh I just turned all of it off.

>They also do whatever the fuck they want on your machine without your permission.
Like what? I turned off telemetry and haven't seen any performance hits.

>>723535331
It's slow as fuck, reminds me of early W10 which was even slower than current W10 which itself isn't particularly fast.
Memory leaks are even worse than W10, game performance takes a hit, the cancerous copilot dogshit is everywhere, that gay recall garbage they keep pushing, and now they just blocked workarounds for first-time setups without a Microsoft account. My brother has had W11 for months now and he's had nothing but issues, it got so bad that he downgraded back to W10 in August.
I am never touching that dogshit OS ever again, absolute fucking cancer, it's bad enough I have to use it in my work laptop and deal with it not properly entering sleep mode and draining my fucking battery every fucking day, THEY'VE HAD THAT SLEEP STATE BUG IN WINDOWS FOR A FUCKING DECADE NOW, HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT TO FIX SOMETHING THAT GOD DAMN SIMPLE THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY FUCKING FIGURED OUT?

>>723534640
いいえ, 卍解 :: 天穹無尽の忍 ですよ

>>723535484
They constantly turn everything back on upon an update. With the amount of time you're going to spend on maintaining the desired state of your system, may as well just learn linux.

Also, this system is a complete black box. What makes you think, that the switch in the user interface which "turns it off" actually turns it off, and isn't a baby pacifier without any real effects? There is literally no reason for them to not implement it that way, because they can get away with it. The belief that it's not implemented that way hinges exclusively on your assumption of their good will. Microsoft's good will, yeah.

>>723535496
>the cancerous copilot dogshit is everywhere, that gay recall garbage they keep pushing
This, ladies and gents is BAIT.
I got Win 11 Home updated to latest version, you can just uninstall those two pieces of garbages and never see them again. Wake me up when Microshaft ACTUALLY forces them to stay installed and unremovable, then yeah you'd have a point.

I got a free year from being european

>>723535665
>They constantly turn everything back on upon an update.
I mean I've went through several updates now without AI turning back on so I'm not sure if you just did it incorrectly.

>What makes you think, that the switch in the user interface which "turns it off"
Well if you're going to tinfoil hat then you should've already been on linux since 7 died. For the rest of us we just disable telemetry and move on with our lives.

I'll probably do it tomorrow. How long does it take to upgrade?

>>723535665
You can install both onedrive and copilot, Anon. Sorry you're too stupid to do that. Maybe linux is more your speed.

Microsoft has gotten too jeeted for me, so I'm jumping ship before the shit really hits the fan.

>>723535786
>tinfoil hat
>he said the normalcattle line
Do you wastes of life genuinely believe that an assumption of corpo shits well-known for forcing their undesirable features down everyone's throat employ nefarious methods for forcing them is on the same level as an assumption that gubmint hides aliums and flat earth?
Well, you're called normalcattle for a reason.

>>723535974
are we still talking about telemetry and ai? those are both bad examples because both of those things are easy to test independent of the os. telemetry obviously needs to make external connections to mean anything and we can see the lack of those and ai, even smol, is power heavy meaning we can test for unexpected power consumption or heat output.

>>723535921
I remember how back then the main argument was "everything just werks on windows while you have to fuck with linux for days before using it".
If I need to fuck with windows now too, then seriously, what's the point?
>but it's just a very little fucking, you won't even notice
I already see where this is going, and I am willing to bet all my money and organs vs yours that it will be getting progressively worse with each new windows release.

>>723536179
>If I need to fuck with windows now too, then seriously, what's the point?
you've been fucking with windows to get shit to work all along, you just don't notice because you don't know any better.

Did a while ago as games on goypass started freezing and the only way out was hitting the reset button. Turned out upgrading to win11 was the nuclear option for that issue.

>>723508961
>>723511508
I get Riku isn't dark anymore but wish his new keyblade was a little edgy or something similar to Terra's earthshaker

>>723508442 (OP)
noh

>>723532885
Other than mapping them to the appropriate screens, both my drawing tablets worked out of the box.
Krita is Linux native, others MIGHT work with Wine or whatever, but I never used anything other than Krita even when on Windows so I can't say any more than that.

>>723508442 (OP)
No, kill yourself shit eater pajeet

>>723531525
>NVIDIA
>DX12
>RT
Yeah, jewvidia hates linux. Force DX11 with games that can and it's fine. Or wait for them to release updated VKD3D drivers.

>>723508442 (OP)
enrolled in ESU

i have my comfyui bundle all set up for making my AI coomslop on windows and I don't know that there's an equally easy and compatible package on linux so I haven't moved.

Nope I'm using 10 for 3 more years

>>723537798
Yeah, comfyui
It works the same

>>723508442 (OP)
>supposedly end of life
>just got an update

>>723537976
>it's updating the ads database

They just updated the computers at work to W11 and I forgot how FUCKING UNUSABLE it is without startallback. I don't know how anyone could possibly think this shit is good, even normgroids. I can't understand how microsoft has not collapsed yet under decades of pajeetification.

>>723535729
Did you still have to give daddy gates your card details though?

>>723536986
Saar saarr the moo poo is sacred saarrr

>>723538129
Windows UI has been unusable since Windows 8. I don't understand how anyone can use Windows 7 and then use anything after and not want to break their computer.

>>723508442 (OP)
yeah and I bought a PC with a 5090 along with it

>>723538258
no, i got price tags on fortnite though

>>723535236
by default, automatic updates are turned off on most distros.

Whats better between Pop and Mint for a complete noob ? i just wanna game and browse internets.

>>723539131
it depends on the target audience of the distro. retards need automatic updates because they're too dumb to update themselves so any distro that targets retards like bazzite will set up auto updates.
>>723539240
>mint
old drivers
>popos
corpo distro
go for bazzite or arch.

>>723535795
Depends on your computer.

STOP THE COUNT

5 more minutes, mom.

>Windows 11 IoT LTSC with MAS
>StartAllBack for Windows 7 UI
>ShutUp10++ to depozz anything left
>disable Automatic Windows Updates completely
It's time to game.

>>723508442 (OP)
This shit is listening to you talk, now. You can't turn it off without gutting all of the features that make Windows 11 different from Windows 10
If you enable it you must be a stupid retard.

>>723508961
looks like a master sword penis

>>723508442 (OP)
I upgraded to Bazzite Linux.

>>723513062
This information is from 2018 when they were one of few distros shipping nVidia drivers. PopOS hasn't been updated in 3 years.

>>723531356
It's not. My friend is constantly complaining how updates fuck shit up. Meanwhile everyone I know who uses Bazzite has 0 complaints.

>>723523457
I don't know what your use case is, but for me everything pretty much worked out of the box (but then again, I like the UI in 11, nor do I care too much about telemetry on my dedicated gaming machine).

>>723539602
Even if you're not european you can get 3 years of updates by using the pirate version of commercial license.

>>723527576
ExplorerPatcher might interest you if you like W10's start (basically W7 + fully customizable tiles)

https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher

>>723528220
>Acer
pig disgusting

>>723533505
saaarrr do not redeem the fps

>>723539659
>This shit is listening to you talk, now.
>Don't have a microphone connected to my PC
I don't think so, Tim

>>723508442 (OP)
no but I updated my BIOS and installed CachyOS

>>723508442 (OP)
Apparently they managed to break localhost(HOW?!), so that makes Win11 completely unusable for anything web or ML related.

Unfortunately Linux can't handle my tablet/TV, so I'm stuck on 10 for the foreseeable future.

>>723537798
As long as you make sure to run the same python version it's the exact same thing. I mounted my windows disk and just used that, didn't even need to reinstall.

>>723542941
>Linux can't handle my tablet/TV
What's wrong with your TV? I'm pretty sure the only issue Linux has is specifically HDMI 2.1 when used with AMD GPUs. But if you're using DisplayPort, USB-C or just an nVidia GPU you should have a normal display output.

>>723527805
They 'want' to give away Windows 11 for free.
>>723527940
I thought MAS was one of their in-house debugging tools for swift activation without having to go through the trouble of generating a code.

>>723543916
>They 'want' to give away Windows 11 for free.
that's a leap, what they want is for you to pay for it, but they're ok with you pirating it because they get to advertise to you anyways and keep you in their ecosystem.

>>723543489
The issue is HDMI 2.1 on Wayland. A week after the switch my HDMI cable broke and with the new one the screen was stuck at 4K30Hz. X11 can handle 60Hz just fine, my second TV can handle it just fine, but either is worse than running 1440p60Hz on the main screen. I discovered this while making animations for my game, so I really need those FPS.
I'll like just return the cable and try a different one, but it'll still be a while until I'm back in the city where I bought it.

The bigger issue is the graphic tablet. With every system update it gets worse and since there's three competing drivers debugging takes forever.

I have to stop myself from wasting time on these issues, but it's hard. After tasting freedom it feels so dirty to be back on windows.

>>723508442 (OP)
I tried using Linux but its pretty much impossible to avoid using the terminal if you don't use your machine strictly for browsing the internet and you do anything even slightly more advanced or god forbid, have to troubleshoot an issue with some weird random incompatibility.

>>723528874
For me it's Pelagiad. I do not know why, but the place just speaks to me.

>>723545240
what were you doing that you needed the terminal for? most modern distros have gui alternatives for everything
>i was following a tutorial
the reason why guides use the terminal is because it works on every system and it's generally much simpler to copy paste a command than to open a gui.

Still not using linux lmao

>>723535101
Yeah, that buddhist symbol is also the tsuba of Ichigo's sword in Bankai;

>>723537976
That update probably irreversibly pozzed your 10 by introducing more backdoors that will eventually force your OS to stop working unless you update. The white man's choice is October 2021 version of Windows 10 with no updates that you keep racially pure.

>being so shit at everything that an update breaks your shit
fucking useless cunts all of you

Gay Niggaz

>>723530098
Microsoft Activation Scripts, then follow the TSForge activation part.

>>723545240
From my experience I've never needed the terminal with Bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin or Manjaro. But I did with Mint, Ubuntu and Fedora.

I went out to do some errands that took like just under 3 hours. And when I came back, my windows11 PC had rebooted and installed a bunch of windows updates without my consent.
I fucking hate it. Especially since it closed down a bunch of documents and some stuff I hadn't even saved yet.

Why is this acceptable?

>>723547390
>>723547489
Can someone explain to me HOW the FUCK Microsoft didnt go and sue the living shit out of these based good people for making these activation scripts/exe's for people to use for many years now?
This shit is so easy to bypass by everyone and yet this Massgrave's been around for ages... whats up with this

>>723547679
Microsoft is a nice company

Buy their products

>>723547679
microsoft makes most of their money off enterprise. it's the same reason why you can to this day freely pirate adobe's shit.
by pirating their product you're still using their product, learning their software, consuming their ads, getting data mined. when you go for a job the only tool you'll know is windows, so your boss is gonna buy a much more expensive enterprise license for you.

>>723547679
because you're the product.

>>723548007
So what you're saying is Microsoft doesnt give a fuck that Massgrave exists and that people can just bypass their bullshit and activate windows for free?
If thats the case why complicate things for most people? hmm, maybe cause they know only a tiny minory of people would even bother with this Massgrave activation methods?
Anyhoo. at least we should be grateful they're not complete assholes like Nintendo

>>723547679
they can't do shit against Russian Activation Scripts

>>723508442 (OP)
>troondows 11
ask me how I know that you're brown

>>723547616
You have the complete freedom to debloat Windows and remove the updater component, or to use a completely different OS.

>>723548169
it's not about being assholes or not, microsoft gave OEMs licenses at a huge discount for decades and bill gates fucked linux by paying them off to sell their prebuilt pcs with windows installed.
they're literally giving away windows 11 for free if you had a windows 10 pc. their business isn't selling you windows, it's selling you microsoft office, selling you gamepass, selling you edge... the worst thing possible for microsoft is that you stop using windows.

they are doing the smart thing and locking all of the graphics fixes you thought were because of amd/nvidia drivers behind windows 11

and it's working to get people upgrading

>>723548571
>yes yes upgrade saaaars do it now benchooods!!
How about no, Cowdeep.

>>723548858
dont reply to me again

>>723508521
Jesus bro, just use Fedora KDE.

>>723548571
my card will work with the same drivers from today

gaymers love dark mode
you will update

>>723511319
UAC is the first thing you disable on a new install.
It's like the Internet Explorer enhanced security but for the entire OS, it doesn't enhance security and it annoys the user at every step.

>>723548571
did you expect to keep getting updates on a deprecated system?
backporting updates is expensive, every extra system supported is an additional incurred cost. everyone will drop windows 10 support just like they did windows 10, it's just a matter of time.

>troonix
>riced out in beige/grey
>turn off all system animations/transitions
Yeah its gaymen time

Do you enjoy being an NPC? When windows 12 comes out next year you'll all upgrade to windows 11 and pretend like it wasn't shit or whatever like you always do.

>>723508442 (OP)
i'll take windows millennium edition over windows 11 + copilot

I can't, my hardware is not compatible

>btoenoifd shill windows /v/ desperately

it sure does smell like shit in here with additional curry scent in the air

>work VM ""upgraded"" to W11
>can't move the taskbar to the side of the screen
>can't have small icons or text labels in the taskbar
>pressing tab in the address bar in explorer jumps to next icon instead of autocompleting

I see pajeetsoft is following the mozilla design philosophy, remove features and make the experience worse for everyone for no good reason.

>>723549009
>dark mode exists only 11
you're fucking brown

>>723528697
Post the full thread I know you have it.

>>723534282
buy an ssd as big as the one installed on your pc. install rescuezilla to a usb stick. boot into rescuezilla. clone your old hard drive to your new one. you now have a second 1:1 copy of your hard drive. fuck up anything you want. if it's busted, just clone the new drive back to the old drive and you lost literally nothing. everybody should have 3 copies of their boot drive imo.

>>723539659
>You can't turn it off without gutting all of the features that make Windows 11 different from Windows 10
Where downside?

>>723550035
Pretty sure you can use Rescuezilla with Ventoy so you can double it along with various Linux distros and Windows ISOs iirc

>>723508442 (OP)
care to explain why Windows 11 has over 180 processes running in the background by just using the OS?

how much fucking bloat is in your trash software

>>723550359
the bloat has been building since windows 98.

Windows UI peaked at 2000.
Everything organized in neatly cascading folders or menus, you always knew where everything was.
Before the ribbon faggotry, before your software knowing better than you which features you'll use the most and bringing them to the front whether you want them there or not.
Even the built in file search was functional back then, can you imagine?
XP was already the beginning of the decline.

>>723508442 (OP)
There's no reason to do that.

>>723550449
it's been a long time since i've seen this UI. opening 5 submenus just to find the application i'm looking for was absolutely terrible.
these days i just press super and type the first first couple of letters of my application that opens in .5 seconds.

>>723550661
You could always pin it to start or desktop but it was YOUR decision.

>>723547679
Probably because they are getting something out of you, just having people use Windows is profitable.

Ohh but that's just crazy paranoid stuff....... they would never!.....

>>723508442 (OP)
No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfJep4hmg9o

This might be what's keeping you from correctly switching things, and preventing the upgrade for some of you.

>>723546121
>The white man's choice
>Windows

>>723548571
always does
just making number go bigger doesn't move people unless they're NUMBER WENT BIGGER IT MUST BE BETTER. once software starts goofing up is when people are prodded in to moving.

>>723508617
But it used to be that the odd numbered Windows releases were the good ones. That's why Microsoft skipped 9.

>>723508442 (OP)
No, I upgraded to CachyOS

>>723508442 (OP)
No and don't plan to, just enrolled in the Extended security update for one more year for free. Feels good man.

>>723508442 (OP)
Yeah but its Tiny, circumventing Microshits gay bullshit.

>>723528597
Im retarded but after installing startallback i cant change the file because its constantly in use and to stop using it i need to restart or close explorer, which makes it impossible to change the file with the modified one, and i cant boot to safe mode either cuz the latest win11 update apparently disallows your keyboard or mouse to work lol so stupid, anyway tl;dr how do i modify the file that is constantly in use?

>>723548571
Holy shit I actually had this AFTER UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 11 had to turn off browser acceleration to fix this but maybe it was Windows 11 shitting itself

>>723552940
If you have a tiny11 you might enjoy using WinCux

>>723508442 (OP)
No. I have W10 LTSC on my desktop and have installed Mint on an old laptop to get used to it.

Hey LTSC fags, you do realize people did the same shit on 7 and still had to move, not one fag moved to Linux, there's literally no point in holding on to your dying OS outside of MUH SPYING that can be turned off in the settings, unless you plan on actually going Linux after extended support ends YOU WILL upgrade to 11

>>723508442 (OP)
I've been using Linux Mint for a month. It was a pain to set up a lot of things but now it's rolling fine.
I probably won't go back.

>Windows 11 is good
>You only have to get the ltsc iso off a dodgy piracy website
>You only have to install that iso to a usb stick using third party software
>You only have to enable several options in that software to skip all the account data harvesting steps
>You only have to then run privacy debloat scipts to stop it spying on you
>Which they turn back on every single update
>Whoops you can only turn it off 3 times a year hahaha
so uh whats the downside of linux again?
which amazing games would i miss out on playing if i installed linux?

>>723508442 (OP)
No. I accidently downgraded to Windows 9.

>>723554475
>You only have to install that iso to a usb stick using third party software
>You only have to enable several options in that software to skip all the account data harvesting steps
2 lines just to shit on Rufus KEK

>>723508442 (OP)
I upgraded to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.

fucking notepad.exe has copilot bundled in

>>723554475
>so uh whats the downside of linux again?

>>723554332
That's so cool anon, anyway didn't the doctor cut off your dick to make you a woman?

>>723554720
My country banned transition operations and doesn't recognize the changed IDs KEK

>>723548437
>and remove the updater component
How do I do this? Please educate me.

>>723554621
Your photo viewer and paint has AI shit too now :^)

>>723554332
> there's literally no point in holding on to your dying OS outside of MUH SPYING that can be turned off in the settings
Microsoft is going to directly integrate the third-party agentic AI Manus into Windows 11, which is going to be given all necessary permissions by default to be able to directly interface with and execute tasks against your local filesystem.

They're going to replace the built-in start menu search and taskbar search with Copilot as well.
And they're going to add voice-activated "Hello Copilot" AI queries, meaning your mic will be constantly on and listening.

>>723551639
>mint
lol, lmaooooo

>>723555630
Not sure if this AI shit is going to work here in Russia but if it does I will just switch to Linux, also my country is one of the reasons I don't care about it stealing my data, all of my holes are being surveilled by FSB why would I care about some FBI nerd having my info

>>723547679
Because these people are what keep an estimated 30% of the Windows user base on Windows, rather than evacuate to a Linux distro. For numerous reasons, Microsoft needs that dominant market position, or they''re going to death-spiral into non-existence. The root reason of all of them, being that they don't get by on selling a good product, they get by on selling a bad product that you're stuck using because everyone ELSE is using it and it introduces intentional incompatibility with anything else.

>>723531209
>avoid Debian
>but install mint (literally more outdated than Debian)
retard

>>723516956
It's children who've been indoctrinated by streamers

Right now Pajeetsoft is spamming me with fake message that I've reached end of life support for Win10 whereas I can verify I have 3-6 years of ESU updates applied.

They're that incompetent. I might be angry if I paid for them, lol

Anyway gonna just switch to Debian when I get tired of their brown shit, just like I stopped using Twitch as soon as the first unblockable
ad dropped

i don't get normalfags. If the internet looked like it looks without adblocker on, I'd not use it at all. As soon as I get inconvenienced I just drop everything. If games weren't pirateable I'd not play them ever

I would never watch new movies if it wasn't for pirated copies, going to modern cinema is a dismal experience. Stench of bloated corn everywhere, cattle pens that stand for ticket booths, overpriced everything, shit tier service.

>>723555630
And they will do this on win10 too
I only use it because it does not bug me too much atm, but once they go overboard I will just move to some Linux distro. It probably won't be Arch because rolling ones aren't worth the trouble and it certainly won't be Ubuntu. So Debian or Mint

>>723525271
nigga just partition it

>>723555421
Run either of the 4 playbook scripts here:
https://amelabs.net/

>>723556453
I remember pirating stardew valley, liking it, learning it was made by one guy, feeling guilty about it and straight up finding money on the street to buy it on sale, surreal experience.

>>723508442 (OP)
I have and I feel ill.
It looks like modernist shit to its core. The subtle differences in font feel like a corporate overlord is breathing heavily in my face in what was supposed to be My Inner Sanctum. I've used ExplorerPatcher and debloat and changed some things in regedit to unfuck it all. It's honestly helped. It's so fucked win11 cant even do basic transparency settings on the taskbar. "accent colors"? what the fuck are you talking about just let me have my gold taskbar at 50% opacity you RETARDS. The flat designs of all the iconography all looks like shit but everyone already knew that. The subtle way everything in windows explorer is spaced out a bit too far bothers me but I don't think theres much of a fix for that. Ripping out that fucking LastActiveClick in regedit did a lot, not being able to just click the stacked icons in the taskbar to instantly show all the available windows was driving me nuts. What I really dread is setting up all the custom programs and pirated softwares again. I don't even know if adobe CS6 runs on win11.
All in all a terrible change and I regret it immensely. Shouldve just went with win10 LTSC.

Thinkin bout dat Linux at this rate

COME HOME WHITE COMRADE

>>723557185
Topkek

>>723557373
>white man
>chinese locale
are you sure about that anon ?
arch btw.

>>723508617
Youre right but also wrong

>>723557373
Holy soul

Come home white man

>>723508442 (OP)
Yeah. After moving the taskbar to the left of the screen, I've noticed no difference to Windows 10. But all I do is open 4chan and play vidya.

>>723557659
>Literally the: CommieOS.
Just missing a catchy name like "BaijuOS" to stay in touch with the fedora tipping and mint icecream licking western origins.

>>723557126
yeah i'd rather keep that money to myself since i'm poor

I went with EndeavourOS and I'm actually surprised at how easy it has been so far. I've had a couple of hiccups here and there, but debloating win11 would have been worse for sure.
I'm also surprised at how my computer is now faster, all of it. File system loads are instant, search actually works, configuration interfaces are not fucking horrid and stuff is just very customizable.

I have to occasionally deal with console stuff of course, but it hasn't been a problem so far, and I've yet to find an issue that chatgpt hasn't solved in less than 10min.
I've even been able to pirate stuff through wine. Really quite pleasently surprised so far.

>>723557871
with regional pricing it was less than 2 dollars

>>723558109
it adds up, spending money when you do not need to

>>723557185
Why is there regedit in that image?

>>723558931
Yeah let's run Linux so we can run a virtual machine inside Linux that runs Windows so we can use the computer
>b.. But at least gates isn't watching me
Yeah gates doesn't care about your troon porn

>>723508442 (OP)
>upgrade
>Pajeet OS from India
kek

>>723508518
YOUR A TRANNY
TRANNY TROON TRANNY TROON TRANNY TROON

>>723558931
you don't even need to toggle steam compatibility anymore, it's enabled by default.

>>723559223
mental illness and technological illiteracy
you don't use vms, you use linux 99% of the time and boot with the windows 10 drive if you ever need it

>>723557185
I'm on linoox but this nailed it. 70% of my time on computer is me trying to fix problems.
Also, yes I'm a degenerate coomer, how could you tell?

>>723560242
What patch did that come in?

>>723560421
>NOOOOOOOO I ONLY USE WINDOWS WHEN I NEED TO
keep seething

>>723508442 (OP)
I will wait a few updates for them to hopefully work out all the inevitable bugs. Thanks for beta testing!

>>723562147
I don't get it.

>>723562027
https://9to5linux.com/steam-client-now-enables-proton-by-default-for-games-without-native-linux-builds
~3 months ago

>>723508442 (OP)
No reason to do so
>but the security
my 3 digit iq is the best protection

>>723560421
lmao what kind of retard would fucking have to REBOOT their computer every time they had to use an OS that could do it all? Makes sense to stay in windows and VM linux, since you only limit yourself by main booting a hobby tranny OS.

>>723562329
with your triple iq you might even be able to read the article about the dunning-kruger effect

>>723562526
it's fine, i'm way past the curve

>>723562147
underage that has never used 7

>>723562420
why would i not want to minimise my use of rotting pajeetware that is modern windows?

where can I learn about how Linux actually works in case I break something? I don't get what's the equivalent to Program Files and shit like Windows32, the /home folder scares me and I'm not a neet with infinite time anymore

shill bot thread

>>723562947
the home folder is perfectly safe as long as you don't touch the dotfiles.
everything else you don't have to worry about unless you want to.

>>723562947
>where can I learn about how Linux actually works in case I break something?
If you're worried about breaking something on windows (which is retard proof), you shouldn't even think about using Linux.

>>723563020
But anon I want to learn!

>>723563135
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
linux doesn't install applications the same way as windows, instead of putting all the files of an application in the same place they divide the application across different folders depending on the type of file it is.

>>723563253
Neat, thanks anon. I used to fuck around a lot with Windows back in the XP days but now on Linux I don't know where half of my shit is installed.

you will upgrade to windows 11 to play MCC

>>723562947
Arch wiki contains a ton of info, but honestly using an LLM is better this day and age. You can ask it direct questions and get direct answers instead of scrolling through wiki in hopes of getting an answer.

>>723563135
System level programs are located in /usr/bin but you don't need to worry about that because you can just invoke the program from the terminal.
Config files are in /etc, and temporary files that get wiped on shutdown are in /tmp. You don't need to know about the rest. You can mount any drive into any location meaning that you can split your OS across multiple drives.
User files are in /home/user which can be abbreviated to ~ . You can find user configs in ~/.config and data files like Steam games in ~/.local/share