Thread 723513086

Tell me why can't I use koikatsu models on my games.

Kill yourself Cris.

>>723513086 (OP)
Hold still you piece of shit

>>723513086 (OP)
You obviously can, I just won't play the shit.

>>723513086 (OP)
Koikatsu models suck.

>>723513086 (OP)
kill yourself cris

>>723513086 (OP)
no-one is stopping you anon! I think it looks bad though

>>723513086 (OP)
Export them, edit them, pose them, trace them, superimpose AI on them, touch them up
Retards will hate, but then again retards will screech like idiots no matter what you do, so just ignore them.

>>723513285
It got a bad name from greedy western slop makers, the models are fine.

>>723513086 (OP)
I feel like at that point you might as well learn Blender and make new models wholesale

koikatsu hair is terrible and the eyes are fucktarded

>>723513692
>the models are fine
no

>>723514585
Yes

>>723514678
>pretending I wouldn't shove that entire loli up your ass feet first and then start kicking

>>723515176
You are a queer fella

>>723513148
>>723513304
Portugal moment

>>723515247
Said the guy with two lolis and a boot up his ass.

>>723515176
holy fucking based

>NO I WONT MAKE THE GAME STOP ASKING
>"Is it okay if I use AI for my game?"
>"Can I make a fighting game with waifus?"
>"Can I make a Henry the VIII visual novel with checkers?"
>"Can I make a fake wiki game?"

>wakes up the next day
>"Can I use AI for my game?"

>>723517274
>Retard draws me as european

Can you even export KK models to other programs? Either way, I've seen VNs try to use Koikatsu screenshots as their graphics and it always just looks incredibly fucking lazy. The models are fine for the simple animations the game's designed for, but no matter how much effort you put into Studio, your results are always going to be worse than what you could put out with Blender. The lack of a real lighting engine is one of the main drawbacks.

>>723515247
It's been a while anon.
Can I get a spooky Patty butt for Halloween?

>>723513148
please dont say this is cris thread
cris has projects that he's working on and wouldn't just jump from thing to thing or try to change plans away from ai modelling or low poly to a "convenient" quasi pre made model solution

>>723515176
Cringe

All female models in every video game should have fully modeled vaginas

>>723513692
>the models are fine

Anna Anon is the only good thing to come out of Koikatsu.

>>723513086 (OP)
you can use vrchat models

>>723517957
you fuckin better

>we'll never get a good illusion game again
>just bad remakes of their old ones except they now go out of their way to make modding difficult
Literally all they have to do is make AA3 with mod support and then release new clothes and personalities as DLC until the end of time like KISS does

>>723517424
You can yes. I did KK>blender>unity years ago to make a VR avatar.

>>723518850
japanese businessmen are fucking RETARDED

>>723513243
Why did they make this chick irredeemably ugly.

>>723519836
Take that back

>>723513692
Their heads are lightbulbs and their bodies aren't that great. It also makes skirts look really puffy for some reason

>>723519973
That's quite literally a skill issue.

>>723520194
>Posts shit body
Yeah

>>723520251
WHERE IS ZE PENIS, WACHOWSKI

>>723518247
this
also based

>>723513086 (OP)
kill yourself cris

>>723520545
Covered up by the clothes/angle so I guess

>>723520594
Any more excuses?

>>723520651
Yeah the body models have no definition
I CAN coom to this but I would rather not. Low quality fap

>>723520721
>no definition
what the does that even mean?

>>723520901
Means I want the bodies to be more defined and not just smooth all the way down
I don't want to spend a lot of time thinking of good models so I will instead use an image I saw earlier to demonstrate

>>723517274
Old ass nigga

>>723521063
>not just smooth all the way down
Well they quite literally aren't, if you know what you are doing. There are normal maps and displacement maps for that.

>>723521317
oh shit since when, how do you do that? also the /h/ general is fuckin dead, its gone!

Is there a way to export the materials from blender into VRM?

I get white empty materials in the VRM when I export.

>>723521529
The general is on 4+4chan now although barely clinging to life and it has most of the tutorials in the OP still.

>>723521317
Is this a vrchat model?

>>723521990
No it's a koikatsu model

You can export VRoid Studio models and use them in professional projects for free.
The only downside compared to Koikatu models is that they don't have 3D nipples, I think, but that should be easy to add to the model before importing it to your preferred engine.
Keep in mind that the original Koikatu models do not have modeled pussies, it was modders who added them to the game.

>>723521742
i went to the /h/ board on the .moe site and the only koikatsu thread was made 2 years ago no tuts in the OP

>>723513692
>Rin
Highly based

>>723522142
Try the /v/ board

>>723513692
KK models are the AIslop of 3D, everyone will know if you use them and no one will respect you for it.

Neat, koikatsu thread
>>723522348
Ok

>>723520651
Puffy vulva mod WHEN????

>>723522049
post more mikami please

>>723518247
hes mid
that guy who used to post his loli character here in 2021 was better

>>723520251
kkkkkk

>>723522348
people will enjoy it regardless if the creator corrects the lightbulb heads

>>723522508
Already been in the repack for like 5+ years

>>723513692
At least post a good model if you're gonna say that

What happened to /kkg/ still makes me laugh.
>>723523090
>>723522426
>colorism
LOL

>>723523361
:)

>>723522426
>>723523090

>>723520651
IS THAT A-
MODSMODSMODS

>>723523361
what happened to it

>>723523583
Vh*x happened

>>723523583
Autists are annoying

just learned to use vrm posing desktop poses with koikatsu models using blender.

pls rate.

>>723523735
What the fuck happened to the chin

>>723523583
excessive circlejerking, everyone moved to a discord leaving the threads to die, low effort renders/animations, and there's an autist who posts everyday talking to himself since two years ago.

>>723522258
it was there thank you

>>723523735
cris what happened to your workflow

how does one port koikatsu models to blender

>>723523894
you just described every single general on /vg/

>>723523894
So the same thing that happens to almost ever general then?

>>723523987
you need to use the HFF patch on the repack, then the plugin to export will work.

Then use the importer plugin on blender to import the character and use the VRM addon to convert into vrm rig.

>>723523538
stfu nigger

>>723524043
>>723524070
Yeah, except this SEAmonkey was on
Obsessed with a non-existent market and trying to shill his awful cards for twns of thousands of bucks

Things are much better in the altchan anyway

>>723524098
god damn it man i have to convert it to another format just to important?

>>723524229
It's not that hard once you learn how to do it.

>>723524229
import*
i cant type

>>723524126
It's a joke retard

>>723524126
gtfo autist

>>723520581
Portugal moment

whats wrong with you trannies

>>723524923
>he can't help but see imaginary troons wherever he goes
Say the line! Say the line!

>>723517424
card?

>>723520651
CARD

Switching from kks to vam was the best decision of my life

>>723525126
https://db.bepis.moe/koikatsu/view/297974

It's for Sunshine. Never went back to see if it was compatible with vanilla.

>>723518247
>shotashit
A shame since his girls and animation skills are amazing.

>>723525287
what is vam supposed to stand for

>>723526193
virt a mate

>>723525017
projection

Die Cris

qrd on "cris"?

Koikatsu Party > Koikatsu Sunshine
Why bother making new inferior games? Just for incompatibility?

>>723513086 (OP)
It's immoral.

>>723526103
woman moment

>>723526408
>vam
ahh, you need vr to play that right?

>>723518247
>shota
based

>>723527452
Shotokan Karate is the best-known style of karate worldwide. It’s a uniquely Japanese art that has a very interesting story regarding its origins and what we know as the art today. Shotokan karate has become one of the most practiced styles of karate, with millions of practitioners around the world.

>>723526841
Absolutely not

>>723523894
>low effort renders/animations
Don't bully. I try my best.

Why should I still grind in Koikatsu when AI makes better looking porn with literally zero effort nowadays?

>>723528970
AI can't keep a coherent design yet.

>>723528970
boomers refuse to switch their workflow
remember how long did it take for SFM retards to die off?

>>723529071
That's wrong.
And Koikatsu's tits and cottage cheese ass polygons are awful

>>723529275
I definitely feel that I should've dived into Blender instead of Koikatsu.

>>723529462
Why is wrong?

AI still doesn't have a context memory between two diferent gens.

And that's a basic feature of the difussion algorithm used by all difussion stable models.

>>723529547
Nah, you don't need all that just to make porn, unless you literally want to rival someone like nyl. I feel like learning how to prompt right now would be much better in a long run.
t. wasted 3 years making characters in blender

>>723530028
shitters been saying that ever since photoshop brushes became a thing
you're supposed to enjoy your craft not struggle like it's hardcore rollslop

>>723529850
Not just for porn, but just general character and scene making. A good deal of time, I'm already using the blendshapes plugin to make adjustments to my cards through Blender, and scene assets through Koikatsu are pretty limited.
Making this simple map took me several hours and a lot of it was just looking for what object I had that I could use, and even then I had to make concessions on shit like the coffee maker and sofa because Koikatsu doesn't have that many options.

>>723530107
AI is funny because after watching enough AI porn you realize It can only make like 5-6 poses.

AI can't make an interesting picture because is just the average of millions of anime pictures.

The pictures are pretty but they are boring.

>>723530187
You should just switch to VaM then. Same process, but you don't have to constantly jump in and out of it. If you want a couch you spawn a couch, if you want bigger tits or thinner face, you adjust the morphs right in the game. It's free on f95, just grab it and see for yourself.

>>723530280
>It can only make like 5-6 poses
if you absolutely refuse to use LoRAs, sure

Any creator who is actually passionate about making good 3D art will make the jump from koikatsu to blender.
The clique was a mistake by the way.

>>723530280
simply a lack of imagination
you can use openpose to actually tell the model exactly what you want the pose to be

>>723522973
can i get a card for this?

>>723530428
>muh lora meme
Even with a synthetic dataset and LORAs the model can't keep coherent designs and will invent details on every gen.

>skill issue
I made a lore of my own 2D drawings.

>>723530490
the latest illustrious models don't work properly with controlnets, unlike SD1.5

>>723530336
I did consider jumping to VaM, but I'd rather go straight to Blender at that point since it's way more general purpose.

/h/ doesn't have koikatsu threads anymore? is it really dying

>>723530507
meme?
it just works
we were discussing poses, now you randomly switched to details
make up your mind and download a good coherent modern model like XAVIER
wouldn't be surprised if you're still stuck on old garbage like pony or illustrious

>>723530643
VaM is like 40 times easier though. At least you won't have to google where your buttons went every time there's an update. If you think blender will make you money, just don't...

>>723529275
>SFM
source filmmaker? people still use that are you trolling?

>>723529850
post your work (blender)

>>723530504
Nope, private circlejerk card for twittards sadly

>>723530107
>he thinks he's crafting anything
lol

>>723530663
Too many schizos were shitting up the threads 24/7, there was just no point being there with the endless spam. Pretty much every creator wound up moving to discord servers.

Source: moved to the discord servers.

>>723531582
I can't post it outside of /trash/ :^)

>>723531914
link the trash thread then

>>723513243
Chika Haruno the goddess of lightbulbs.

>>723532245
koikatsu's story mode pissed me off so bad when i sat there making all those girls, and downloading all those cards and then made my character for the story mode only for it to introduce some generic anime girl and be like "there she is! your crush!!!" like you couldn't have let me designate one of the girls as my crush?

>>723526551
>download a nicely made card
>is for sunshine
>no base version
>is the only card of that character in bepis

How the hell do I learn to make quality cards? Do I need to be autistic or watch tutorials or something?

>>723532595
Just download them from others and do small edits so they fit your tastes, no need to make Miku yourself when there are dozens of already model accuraate Mikus out there

>>723532536
Sunshine cards work in base version. Just drag-and-drop into the creator and resave the card.

Wait cris gave up on literally every """""workflow"""""" and is now trying to use koikatsu models?? It's over

kk bodies didnt look much different from aa2 models

>>723530551
still, it is often a matter of being able to describe the pose you want which takes at least a level 1 or 2 apple imaginer and some minor vocabulary skill to not verbally contradict yourself.

wait was schizoposting also the reason aa2 threads disappeared too
that's fucked kek
must have been recent since i could swear i saw threads exist not too long ago

>>723532595
Gotta dive into texture autism.

>>723513086 (OP)
koikatsu models suck, use vam instead

>>723533147
>being able to describe the pose you want
no matter what I write, I never get what I want. To me, those who post cool ai art just cherrypicked among thousands of anatomic nightmares

idk who Cris is, but he should kill himself

>>723534548
vam models of anime girls are ass 90% of the time though because most creators can't be assed to translate the models into a realistic/semi-realistic style, koikatsu mops the floor with vam on that regard

>>723534548
Fuck off back to AtF pedonigger

>>723534795
That's why you use Controlnet stuff, give the clanker a stick-and-ball image that details the pose you want (you can do this in blender easily) and it will nail the pose 95% of the time.

>>723513086 (OP)
>Tell me why can't I use koikatsu models on my games.
Copyright you fucking brain damaged mongol

>>723536234
Is that still a problem? Illusion's gone.

>>723531838
You mean the main big one? Don't tell me I have to join some private one

>>723532478
Maybe you should've looked at the menus because the classroom assignment screen has a whole tab for story characters and teachers

>>723532595
>>723532842
this, use the database and download any good cards of characters you like and rip the parts off them you like and put them on another card.
also, make sure to rotate your model around and look at it from all angles or else you'll make an oblivion face, way too many people skip this step and only work with the model facing directly forward.

>>723523361
Nothing much happened when you think about it. They were always treating the threads as a discord chat, so actually moving there was being honest about it.

>>723536475
It's the latter if you care about kkg folks. Although some of them also use the public cord.

>>723537432
>find paid card
>turn it to the side
>face is completely fucked
Very cool.

>>723522061
I'm surprised that Vroid is retard-friendly now compared to how it was 7 or 10 years ago.

>>723533802
The hack played a part in a lot of the disappearances. Why deal with some jackass for years to come when he won't kill himself and the mods do jackshit?

I love when AI fags tell me my issues with AI are down to skill issue and they can't make pictures like this.

It's 100% of all I see with AI just 1girl, solo.

>>723531983
sounds like he was full of shit

>>723535965
dude talking out his neck

>>723536701
my fault for rage quitting when i saw the main girl

>>723543813
calm down cris

>>723542968
yeah that kind of pic with multiple characters is extremely difficult, it is a skill issue but a reasonable one. ai art is completely iterative and nothing is ever done done.
personally i like solo transparent background because the character can be photoshopped into other stuff later and then that image used as controlnet or inpainted to actually achieve the image you want.

like for me to do what you just posted i would preferably generate a generic image with three bodies, then generate 3 separate heads, then photoshop those heads onto the bodies and run that image back through to blend it rather than trying to oneshot it

>>723544242
I made that picture with SD 1.5 and CAT.

There hasn't been any progress since March 2023.

>>723544275
>I made that picture with SD 1.5 and CAT.
you did? are you sure? because it was posted earlier this year in /g/ when flux-kontext came out

>>723544648
I made the picture, pretty sure someone respoted it.

Besides, is just basic photobashing using Krita.

It's not a single gen, but the combination of multiple gens into a single one picture.

>>723534795
well then it still exemplifies what i'm talking about where to make a good image you still need to put in manual work and anything lesser is just a skill issue, just like with traditional shooping. back a couple of years ago some of these models didn't exist.

>>723542968
this pic could be massively improved in clarity and resolution now, especially with krita's inpainting ability. to say there has been no improvement is silly.

>>723545212
there has been improvements, but nothing particularly revolutionary.

>>723515247
Based and cunnypilled

i like KK models, I like games that use them, and i will continue to use them
same as people who like DAZ shit. I think its repulsive but people like it

>>723547751
KK models can be good, or at least blend in well enough with the average anime artstyle, the problem is that the devs using it are always lazy assholes trying to live off patreon bucks for a shitty renpy VN.

>>723547863
hey I might be lazy asshole making a shitty KK renpy VN for patreon bucks but... wait what was the other thing?

>>723543909
Works on my machine
https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet

>>723544741
>It's not a single gen, but the combination of multiple gens into a single one picture.
Then what was your fucking point to begin with nigger
>Hurr durr AI stagnated because it can't do something I had to manually do myself
>no I've not gone back and tested any of the new methods why would I do that?
Most shit is 1girl, solo because most people are jacking off to their waifu or cycling different girls through solo scenarios.