Thread 723526437

Which is the better mon game?

>>723526437 (OP)
pokemon is more fun to play, but has worse graphics
digimon is more boring to play but has better graphics

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon Time Stranger shits hard on Z-A

>>723526437 (OP)
Played both. Digimon mogs ZA.

>>723526437 (OP)
if you're cool enough to have the m-word pass, you would know better than we do

>>723526437 (OP)
presented without comment

>>723526437 (OP)
probably pokemon considering the only context people bring up digimon is to screech about pokemon

>>723526641
Pokemon's up to 4.2 now with about 250 more user reviews, while Digimon's about the same as that picture.

>>723526437 (OP)
Monster Hunter Stories, it has the quality of digimon and the presence of pokemon.

>>723526437 (OP)
Just buy SMTV, all the Digifags say the Cyber Sleuth series is just budget SMT.

>>723526437 (OP)
Monster Sanctuary, Beastieball, and Siralim Ultimate are better than both of them.

>>723527307
If only MHS3 was out, Navirou kinda ruins the other two.

>>723527423
Navirou is DEAD and so is everyone else...except Ena.

>>723526437 (OP)
Time Stranger. There's zero reason to ever play Z-A when Palworld exists.

>>723527376
is monster sanctuary that good? it's been on my wish list for ages

>>723527728
Yes. One of the only monster catchers where every monster is actually usable.
I mean Im not gonna lie and say there's NO tier list but its like Lapras on the bottom and Dragonite on the top instead of Caterpie on the bottom and Rayquaza on the top.

>>723527376
This looks way worse than PLZA

>>723526437 (OP)
The left one will sell 10x more than the one on the right.

>>723527423
Navirou is CUTE go fuck yourself.
No dub voice though its garbage.

>>723527923
Well its not.

>>723527968
Anon, MHS3 happens 200 years after MHS3, Navirou is ded although so is GATO SEXO, Alvinia and the other except for Ena and the guy allergic to Palicos.

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon at least feels like a complete game. Every recent Pokémon has been half-assed

>>723528040
The descendent Navirou and I had is acceptably cute too so its fine.

>>723526437 (OP)
Cassette Beasts

>>723528028
it literally looks like those AI pixel game videos you see nowadays, I've seen flash games with better graphics.

>>723528248
Retard.

>>723527728
Probably one of the most enjoyable 4-niggas in a row style games, just with 3 niggas instead.

>>723528207
Based, pretty underrated game.
Wish it would fucking add battle speed settings though.

>>723528345
That's one thing that would be nice to have, they are still updating the game so it's possible that it does get added.

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon. Not even close. Has a story. Has voice acting. Doesn't treat you like a toddler with it's narrative. Combat considerably more involved. Runs and looks better. Probably cost about the same to make in about the same time frame.

I like both

>>723530327
>combat is more involved
Nigger everyone is x5 speed autoing everything outside of boss battles and in those you have unkillable allies that eat the bosses turns

The move variety in Digimon is some of the worst I've seen besides Nexomon.
>Fire Attack 1
>Fire Attack 2
>Fire Attack 3
>Fire AoE Attack 1
>Fire AoE Attack 2
>Fire Magic Attack 1
>Fire Magic Attack 2
>Fire Magic Attack 3
>Fire AoE Magic Attack 1
>Fire Aoe 2 Magic Attack 2
>Water Attack 1
>Water Attack 2
>repeat forever
They really just didn't care at all.

Digimon and it's not even funny.

>>723530693
We get it. You farmed the shit out of the demo so you could feed digimon to your favorites so they would be max stats. Doesn't mean everyone else sucked the fun out of the game for themselves.

Shin Megami Tensei IV

>>723530883
Pokemon is no different. Instead of calling something fire attack 1/2/3 It's Ember, Flame Thrower, and Inferno. And all of them are just stronger fire attacks and nothing more.
You also forget the multi hit single target attacks in digimon.

>>723526437 (OP)
SMT, as it always was.

>>723526641
>both 79
so both are shit?

>>723531371
Nah Pokemon has tons of moves that you don't really see unless you do higher level pvp.

Nothing is stopping you from playing both and forming your own opinion

>>723526636
There is a glitch in the matrix

>>723526641
>both mid

>>723527586
Trvke

what versions has better pewrformance for ZA, emulating the switch 1 version or the switch 2 version?

Palslop is a goofy ass meme game in which the mons are mostly awful looking Pokefusions that look like it was made by AI and the combat is very chaotic and mashy and there is no real depth to be found

Digislop is a 1 player game with no replaybility and some of the mons look ok but then you have full humanoid slop that ruins everything

Pokeslop ZA is another chaotic mashy game with no real depth and reason to use anything other than the strongest and fastest mons but at least it has some kind of multiplayer an there might be some kind of replayability with its Mario party mode but its still a awful game not worth $100

in reality they're all trash. its like comparing alcohol to meth and crack cocaine. theyre all bad for you and with your better judgement you wouldnt spend money on either one. but maybe you want to have a fun brainless time and thats alright.

Pokemon Champions clears everything and its not even out yet. theres no way it can be as bad as these other games. and since it has legacy turn based strategy and team building you will at the very least have to use your brain cells in order to play it optimally and have fun with others.

>>723531371
>And all of them are just stronger fire attacks and nothing more.
Nah, unlike Digimon they have different animations, accuracy and status effect chances.
With Digimon the damage just goes up

>>723537553
>muh multiplayer compfagging autism simulator

actual retardation

>>723537553
Anon, having low standards and talking about games you've clearly never played isn't making you look any better.

>>723526437 (OP)
The one with guns and tiddies.

>>723528248
THIS THIS THIS pixel graphics lowkey be unc af I
need super smexy AAA goodness

>>723530883
>Agi
>Agilao
>Agidyne
Nothing can top SMT's naming conventions, I love this shit.

>>723535390
digimon is a japanese rpg and not a sony moviegame so journos are predisposed to hate it

meanwhile pokemon reviews are bought and it's still getting middling reviews. Pokemon has to be dire to be getting those reviews while Digimon can be a masterpiece and still get "6/10 protag is a fag and it objectifies women"

>>723537972
>meanwhile pokemon reviews are bought
With that budget? Get real anon.

>>723538329
>nintendo and the owner of the most valuable franchise in the world can't afford to buy off a couple of games journos

are you retarded

>>723538384
>two companies who have cut out video game journalists for years due to their constant rumors about them are going to pay them for this one game made by a third party developer people will buy anyway because there's no alternatives

are you retarded

>>723538384
And yet it's sitting at a 79.
Were it a paid game that would be a 90+.

>>723537553
/v/ doesn't play videogames so it couldn't care less about competitive pokemon.

This is just part of a crusade against pokemon but now you're using digimon as a tool for that instead of palworld. I gurantee that most people in this thread aren't haven't touched Next Order.

>>723538750
Next Order is just kind of a meh game to be fair.

>>723538653
most of /v/ is now over the age of 13 so they don't care about competitive pokemon unless they're developmentally disabled

>DUDE he sent out rock?! What should I do? Should I use sci.... no! PAPER!
>Oh man that was a tough battle!

>>723538750
Next order did feel like a modern version of world 1 and I enjoyed it but the game is the very definition of one step forward, several steps back.

of course we got goofy niggas trying to defend the broken "battle system" of ZA (more like Pokemon mash Z and A to win the game)
>>723537758
lmaoooo little timmy said
>games shouldnt make us use our brains. just lemmy turn muh brain off and mash! being competitive and wanting to test ourselves against other players is bad! r-retard! you're the retard here!

>>723537831
sybau. you really have to play the game to see how awful and unintuitive and thoughtless a game can be? so many Timmies and Timanthas talking about
>like omg where is the voice acting its like ummm 2025!
>like omg why cant we go in the doors!
>like omg these graphics are so unforgivable!
and they never complain about the actual problems with current year Pokeslop.

>>723538750
>Next Order
Bland copy of World.

>>723539232
Oh man I can't get enough of this dude. Ranting and raving about how games should just be literally fischer price rock paper scissors without any polish or fun

>>723526636
>nshidia

>>723527459
mascot character is back in the latest trailer

>>723539232
THIS they need to buff urshifu and incelneroar again like the real fans want

>>723526437 (OP)
Both are mid entries in their respective franchises

>>723539105
All these words just to tell me you haven't played even one match of comp.
You really thought this was good cope?
>real adults don't challenge themselves against other humans, we fight dumb AI in games with even less depth

>>723526437 (OP)
Two different games.
Digimon is for hardcore JRPG grindan'
Pokemon is if you want Nintendo's version of Madden.

>>723526437 (OP)
ZA and it's not close.

>>723539503
buddy you're internet tough guying about playing a baby game with little babies. This shit has got me rolling on the floor

>>723537553
>theres no way it can be as bad as these other games.
monkey paw curls
other games are fucked competitively because they will just decide to exclude some key pokemon, abilities, and traits just to give you the middle finger.

I am sadly enjoying ZA
Idk how to fix the graphics bugging out but its usually just the shadows of trees, and if I restart the emulator its fine for awhile

>>723539503
>All these words just to tell me you haven't played even one match of comp.

nobody cares
>dude i know i look ridiculous but have you played COMPETITIVE HARDCORE pokemon?
i respect you less than I would a 40 year old man playing competitive beyblades

>>723539320
So Digimon Time Stranger then?
But for real, I want to like the "modern" Digimon Stories, but they play like Pokémon. All you do is just remember what does 2x damage to what, and that instakills 90% of the enemies. They aren't 1v1s at least.
>>723539457
I wish Time Stranger weren't an above-average digimon game.

>>723539531
>>723539617
The STATE of /v/. Isn't there some Twitter screencap thread for you troons to be in?

>>723526437 (OP)
>Which is the better mon game?
Depends on the mood.
If I feel contrarian and want to farm (You)s, I’ll say the new Pokémon is fun and the better game.
If I feel honest and actually want to recommend something good, the new Digimon is a no‑brainer. But there are no (You)s for us digifags.

>>723526437 (OP)
>garbage
>VN
Both are kinda ass.

>>723539778
>vn
?????

>>723539425
>STILL mad

i enjoyed both. They new battle system in za is fun and all the digievolutions in digimon look amazing.

>>723526437 (OP)
played both, well I played the demo of Time Stranger but I didn't liked it that much, this comes from someone who loved the Cyber Sleuth duology, specially Hacker's Memory, I also played Re:Digitize, Survive and some of the old Digimon World games

I guess the full game is way better but they did a terrible job with the demo, the first dungeon is boring and gray, there's barely any context on the story and characters and the demo ends up on a random spot that doesn't makes me want to play the rest, I compare it a lot with Metaphor's demo as that one ends in a sort of cliffhanger after telling you what the story is all about

combat was, well, the same as Cyber Sleuth, that's neither good nor bad, I expected a bigger evolution tho as CS combat was kinda barebones

and yeah, I'm playing Legends Z-A rn (on a softmodded Switch, I'm not paying full price for this), I think it's alright so far, I think Scarlet/Violet gameplay loop and soundtrack was way better, don't like how many cutscenes Legends Z-A has, the city isn't that interesting in comparison to the wild areas on Legends Arceus and SV

guess they're both just fine, I really expected more of Time Stranger tho since I LOVED Hacker's Memory

>>723530327
The story is probably one of the worst aspects of the game, it makes pokemon story look like lord of the rings, combat is just auto spam, somehow even more mind numbing than fucking pokemon.

>>723526437 (OP)
When has the answer not been digimon?

>>723537884
FF namings are better

>>723526489
least obvious ZAtard shill

>>723526437 (OP)
Why the FUCK does the digimon game have the higher budget?

>>723530883
They all have at least 1 unique attack with great animation that makes up for it.

>>723539232
You have an odd fascination with children.

>>723526437 (OP)
Ive played every pokemon game on emulators since the 3DS era. Legends Arceus was decent, SV was good, Legends ZA is fucking trash so far. in the 15 hours of playing it, the coolest part was this sewer just because its not the city map. the city is shit. the combat barely works, buffs and debuffs are useless, Special attacks require the pokemon to first move to a casting spot, which makes using the move take extra 2 seconds, compared to melee-based moves just doing it instantly. it just makes no sense

>>723542120
This game has a sewer area? Huh. Neat

Does ZA have a kino moment like TS?
https://youtu.be/C8lQBPXh5CU?t=79

>>723541215
least obvious retard

>>723542120
>SV was good
It's funny that I've been hearing this a lot recently. It's the same shit every time a new Zelda releases, new one bad, last one good.

>>723539531
>>723539617
>wouldnt it be cool if we could put together a team of mons and play against other people in a turn based game that actually makes us use our brains?
>"wow look at you tough guy! u actually want to be competant at a kids game haha u autist! we dont want the devs to put the least bit of thought and time into making a thought provoking brain vs brain pvp experience! loser! we just want to go into le buildings and hear the voice acting"
>>723539737
kek they're like bots. its really bizarre trying to get through to them.

maybe we are autists. wont deny that. we are on 4chan after all but you have to consider that several years ago more autists were the ones developing the games and they were better games with more thought put into making a game a actual game in which 2 or more people can actually engage with each other in a well thought out way and allow for a sort of "meta" to develop and not just a "cinematic expereice" with a few multiplayer meme mode thrown in sometimes

>>723542206
You mean a group of monsters ganging up on a demonic chicken that's too hard for them to animate so it isn't fighting back while music from the last game plays?
No.

>>723542206
>cracked texture when alphamon attacks just wipes on instead of actually having a cracking animation
Jesus christ.

I remember some people saying ZA ripped off Digimon World combat. How accurate is that?

>>723542260
well Ive had that opinion since it launched. most people quit the game because of it running 15fps and looking like shit. running 60fps on emulator the game is fun and has one of the most interesting story development since the gen 5 games

>>723526437 (OP)
digimon is much better. can't even compare this incredible game to modern pokemon slop

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon won bigly
Also never thought I would type those words in 2025 lmao

>>723542314
You still stood up and said "kino" though

>>723542394
I thought it was a palworld ripoff but youre better off asking the digiautists who actually played the old games on /vg/

>>723526437 (OP)
PalWorld.

>>723542610
No.

>>723527728
Mons sanct is super mid, I wouldn’t say not to play it but I had a lot more fun with Cassette beasts despite the woke artstyle

>>723542394
It's not, World 1 and Next Order play completely differently. The only similarity is that they're real time games.

>>723541351
because they have shitty devs who waste money while pokemon focuses on what matters. quality iver quantity.

>>723542268
It's an autist vs autist battle. You also need to get that competitive Pokémon is seen as a joke. If the single player is just rock, paper, scissors, how is the multiplayer any different? And I don't see the depth in it either. Pokémon multiplayer seems like it's a mind games thing, not a JRPG build autism thing.

>>723542394
About as accurate as saying Palworld ripped off Pokemon.

>>723542206
You want to know interesting? The end game, as in right before you confront the final boss, for both games is eerily similar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p1fEvpto5s

>>723541134
Not really, since it isn't able to differentiate between a fire spell that is more powerful and more powerful but also a group attack spell.

Only Wizardry (which SMT was inspired by) has a naming system for spells that rivals it.

>>723542260
>new one bad, last one good.
There's one problem with your little cycle theory.
No one considers XY, SM and SS good, the people who will reply to this for (you)s withstanding.
It's almost as if graphics and glitches ultimately don't affect what you do in a game.

>>723539571
>I am sadly enjoying ZA
Sorry anon, you can’t enjoy video games here we have to put you down

>>723526437 (OP)
Pokemon

>>723539571
I was about to call you a nigger but at least you didn't pay for it

>pokemon
>99% of battles are filler
>need to fuck with capturing to get more
>1% of battles might be good as long as you don't accidently grind
>digimon
>99% of battles are filler but you can 5x auto battle through them
>getting new digimon is just a gauge that fills when you defeat one so you can get as many as you want without backtracking to a town to get more balls
>need to fuck with evo trees to get digimon you want
>1% of battles might be decent but most digimon have homogenized movesets so it isn't until end game where you might have a team more involved than timmy tier use the strongest attack shit
digimon is a pretty smooth RPG to sail through. pokemon has lots of friction points but much better team building. however if you don't match up against other players the team building in pokemon is kind of wasted since there aren't really any challenges

>>723526641
Snoy

>>723526641
You lost and got raped,,, Eric

>>723526641
>Digimon has a higher score than BG3, Elden Ring, RDR2 and Silksong
I mean, I understand neither Pokemon or Digimon fans would play the crap they claim to love and spend all day fighting over it, but this is embarrassing.

>>723542986
Why the fuck are playing these games if you consider the gameplay filler?
Then again you clearly have brain problems if you think Digimon's gauge that no one likes is good. Every other monster tamer you can throw a ball, negotiate whatever in the same battle you see it, in Digimon you have to fight at least three to get it.

PALSHIT LOST NINTENGODS WON

>>723526437 (OP)
Given the dogshit decisions Game Freak's made for acquiring some megas (DLC and online ranked rewards like what the fuck) and how I'm still mad on how they did my boy Feraligatr dirty with his stupid looking mega, I'm going to have to give it to Digimon for this one
Time Stranger's fun and the world actually feels lived in and alive (compared to what Pokémon usually puts out)

>>723537553
Compchads, I fucking kneel, you were right. Showdown is by far the best Pokemon game, coming up with ways to humiliate tryhards using 6 legendary teams is the most fun I've had with Pokemon.

>>723543319
If pokemon fans were fighting do you really think that a gaggle of niggers would be able to outnumber them? Hell thst same gaggle of niggers currently have to make positive reviews to make it look like a fight.

>>723543402
Online ranked rewards should be more common, casuals need to learn PvP is the true soul of Pokemon.

>>723543456
I'm fine with online ranked rewards, but locking megas behind it? And time gating them no less? Get the fuck out of here
However, I doubt that it'll stay that way, and eventually you'll be able to acquire the stones from another method, but as it stands it's complete horseshit

>>723543546
Would you rather they be preorder dlc and then sold as regular dlc?

>>723543364
You forgot the old DQM/Yo-kai Watch way of getting new monsters. Giving them some food and praying that this time the 0.000003% chance of the monster joining you is rolled.

>>723543623
Why would you present those two options as the only ones?
They should be acquired through regular gameplay like all the others
Make them post-game rewards if you're so inclined

>>723543364
>you clearly have brain problems if you think Digimon's gauge that no one likes is good.
Guess I have brain problem too because I also like the gauge system.
Digimon games were never really about "catching them all" but instead about raising your dudes into different forms depending on how you raise them, so you never really need more than the first ones and then just evolve them into whatever you need

>>723543679
well ofc thats not digimons motto thats pokemons
digimons motto is "gonna plap them all"

>>723543639
I'd still prefer that to Digimon since there's still a chance to get it in one instead of just pointlessly grinding to get one monster.

>>723543724
>digimons motto is "gonna plap them all"
Yeah but what if I just really want to plap just one?

>>723543546
Anything that forces people to play competitive is good.

>>723543319
Maybe those games aren't actually as good or valued as you think and they just have vocal fanbases that make them seem important, or maybe this game just has the sort of fanbase who can be motivated to actually leave a positive review at the moment unlike those normalfag games. Or perhaps review scores don't actually mean anything at all and at the absolute best they only tell you the social environment surrounding them near their release date and/or major updates?

>>723543815
Why?

>>723543826
That could be true, but a monster catcher is certainly not going to be the one to prove it, when this genre is defined by being all low budget grindy slop with awful graphics.

>>723543782
do not the beelzemon lady

>>723526437 (OP)
I didn't even notice the one on the right was digimon at first wtf lol. I just saw the anime girls and thought it was some niche JRPG I hadn't heard of

>>723543724
even this one?

>>723544028
ESPECIALLY that one

>>723543864
Because then maybe people will start demanding things the games truly need such as a HUD overhaul to resemble Showdown's, a better online infrastructure or for Bug types to stop being such atrocious garbage instead of dumbass shit like petting mechanics.

>>723526437 (OP)
SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI NOCTURNE FEATURING DANTE FROM THE DEVIL MAY CRY SERIES™

>>723544049
That's what Champions is going to be for

>>723543679
>Digimon games were never really about "catching them all"
Every monster taming game is, that's why they record which ones you've obtained.
The mistake you're making is that you think because pokemon had the slogan, only in the west mind you, that it only applies to it.

>>723544028
what the fuck happened to my tamagotchi!

>>723526437 (OP)
Time Stranger 100% but I'm enjoying Z-A more, especially the multiplayer didn't expect it to be fun as fuck, I usually hate Pokemon multiplayer because it's just setup autism retards online all day, this is a completely different ballgame with the real time commands and dodges

>>723544115
And the mistake that you're making is assuming Digimon is a monster catching game in the first place, and that Pokemon has anything to do with taming or raising monsters.

>>723543960
But she's so cute and pretty and keeps insisting we sleep together like when she was a rookie

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon and it's not close. It's not even that ZA is just bad, it's also that Time Stranger is a genuinely good game. Like one of the best JRPGs I've played in a long time and my favorite Digimon game period.
You're literally comparing a 4/10 to a 9/10

>>723543914
>low budget
I don't really see this being a that defining of the sub genre
>grindy
yeah I really can't argue. Hell if you don't want a good grind I don't see why you would play one of these
>awful graphics
I think that's a Pokémon-only thing
>>723544049
The unfortunate red pill is that your kind is the vocal minority, and 90% of the Pokémon customers want an easy cake walk through the park with action pets. you need to remember these games are beginer RPGs.
>>723544115
Even Monster Rancher?

>>723544152
It got isekaied into the violence dimension.

>>723544235
Dont care, if they get filtered they should get good.
And the singleplayer games should condition them, like making double battles the standard, no usage of items mid-fight except for Pokeballs and gyms not only being level locked like the Battle Frontier, but being designed around a strategy instead of being mono type.

>>723544229
This.
I'd give Z-A a 6/10 though it's still kind of fun even with the jank and lack of stuff to do

>>723544221
>And the mistake that you're making is assuming Digimon is a monster catching game in the first place
You'd have a point if you were talking about the original vpet but nowadays even they record what you've obtained. In other words, Digimon transitioned to one years ago.
>and that Pokemon has anything to do with taming or raising monsters.
Which it does.

>>723539213
For a moment i tho this was modded AZ , graphically it checks out.

>>723544373
If your only criteria for comparing the games is that they both have monsters, then sure.

>>723526437 (OP)
I'd have to go with ZA.
I'm a bigger Digimon fan than I am a pokemon fan but Time Stranger doesn't improve on CSHM in any significant manner and that was already a mediocre game as it is, in fact some things in TS are just straight up worse like the farm and grinding methods and when your system relies on grinding it just makes the game feel incredibly tedious.
Then there's the lack of things to do and linearity of the game, half of the point of a monster tamer is the exploration and finding where specific monsters spawn but TS doesn't have that. SMT has it, ZA has it but not Digimon.
It's like they went all in on graphics but just shoveled out the same game.

As a personal peeve Gracenovamon being fucking tiny annoys me.

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon, probably. It's just too bad I have zero interest in Digimon.

>>723544303
>making double battles the standard
Objective improvement
>no usage of items mid-fight except for Pokeballs
That would just suck. Just lock them whenever you're doing an "official" battle or something. Item use is still something you gotta teach kids for regular RPGs.
>gyms not only being level locked like the Battle Frontier, but being designed around a strategy instead of being mono type.
The level locking might be too much for the kids, but it should be designed beyond bringing the right colored attacks. I'd say maybe overhaul the type mechanic as a whole, but then I remember the game is for kids. I already know I should move on instead of wanting something I don't like anymore to change.
>>723544373
If your monster can't die from disease, it isn't a raising game. It's just a JRPG. I will die on this hill. Compare Pokémon Red to Digital Monster version S for the Sega Saturn. In one, the monster is a party member; in the other, it's a pet that needs to be fed. They are separate genres, and Digimon just happens to make games in both of them.

>>723544570
What exactly do you think a monster tamer is anon? Keep in mind that this is a genre that's been around since the 80s.

>>723527728
not really, it's pretty overrated, a decent game but nothing that good

>>723544793
>If your monster can't die from disease, it isn't a raising game
We aren't talking about raising aims, we're talking about monster tamers. Monster tamers aren't reliant on death mechanics

>>723544619
>finding where specific monsters spawn but TS doesn't have that
?
There are like 2 Herakle Kabuterimon spawn point in the Gear Forest, 1 Plesiomon spawn point in the abyss and fuckton hidden outer dungeons for free digimons.

>>723544619
>Then there's the lack of things to do and linearity of the game
Can't say I agree
I spent about 80 hours on my first playthrough and did just about everything
There was loads to do, that being simply playing the game
Now if we're talking auxiliary content, yeah it's definitely lacking, but I'm playing the JRPG for its main content, not whatever bonus stuff which, while nice to have, isn't going to be a deal breaker if it isn't there

>>723526437 (OP)
Beat Time Stranger. Not bothering with Z-A but played plenty of Pokemon in the past.
>Graphics
Time Stranger.
>Animation
Time Stranger
>Music
Time Stranger has nice tracks but I assume Z-A has the better music given Pokemon’s record.
>Monsters
Honestly? I like the Digimon designs more.
>QoL
Digimon.
>Animations
Digimon.
>Map design/world
From what I’ve seen? Digimon’s world seems more interesting and engaging than Lumiose City.
>Gameplay
Can’t comment because the Z-A system differs a lot from a traditional Pokemon game. I will say Time Stranger has a decent loop though and its moments of strategy. Pokemon has more varied typings and movepool though.
>Difficulty
Assuming Z-A has standard Pokemon difficulty? Time Stranger. Several options. Boss gimmicks to spice it up a bit. Unlockable postgame difficulties. Base game isn’t hard albeit but the added NG+ shit puts it over Pokemon.
>Customisation
Z-A kind of wins by default. Shirts are minimal and the DLC outfits are great but not really comparable to Z-A’s selection.
>Story
I don’t need to see Z-A to know Time Stranger clears. Pokemon has mediocre to shit writing. Always.
>Voice acting
You already know.
>Traversal
Not 100% on Z-A’s movement but from what I know you just get one shitty sort of double jump. Time Stranger gives you dozens of rideable Digimon. How convenient fast travel in Z-A is is unknown to me but in Time Stranger they provide you with tons of transport.

Overall Time Stranger is better from what I can see.

>>723544813
Do you think Monster Rancher and Pokemon mainline are the same genre?

>>723539527
XD

>>723545045
>least obvious digishill

>>723526437 (OP)
Pokemon ZA feels really empty and I give this series more slack than I should usually

>>723544813
It's a subgenre about getting a customizable (party of) monsters that are usually JRPGs, but sometimes are inserted into other genres or are raising sims. The JRPGs set themselves apart from customizable JRPGs al la Wizardry by having you get your party members by getting the enemies you fight to join you most of the time.
>>723544868
Tamers is a term for both raising sims and JRPGs that use monsters.
Also, this term is still uncemented, so it kinda means fuck all right now.

>>723545081
Have you actually thought about what you do in Monster Rancher, or are you like the other guy focusing on the death aspect.

>>723545183
Okay. What parts of my post were wrong and why?

>>723545350
You make your worm exercise. Then fight sometimes.
That doesn't sound like Pokémon at all, home dawg.

>>723538597
That’s score with the bonus. In reality Z-A would be a 69 or even a 59.

>>723545350
So you do think they're the same gameplay.

>>723538597
Anon they gotta try and make the score seem somewhat believable
You're like a straight D student thinking they can get away with suddenly forging As

>>723526641
>all the turbo seething and coping replies
KEK, good post

>>723545350
So you've never played monster rancher for it.

>>723545380
I dont engage with chatgpt bot shills

>>723526641
Now post the sales.

>>723545380
NTA but I'll take over
>animation
While the graphics are okay the actual animation is pretty bad with a lot of them being reused from CSHM, then you have something like Gundramon's signature where it's just standing there. You also said this twice.
>QoL
Time Stranger hasn't improved in that regard in any particular manner, in fact the level grind is worse than the previous game since they nerfed it to sell dlc. Elements don't work like they did before either it works more like SMT making it easier to abuse.
>Map design
Again it's a visual/gameplay disconnect. While the environments look nice the map design is horribly linear.
>gameplay
Time Stranger is the epitome of the spam jrpg especially when you start getting megas that have powerful AOE attacks sure they nerfed a lot of them by having them consume all sp but that's a non issue with how easy it is to replenish.
>difficulty
TS makes the same mistake all Digimon games do equating difficulty to tedium the boss gimmicks don't exactly make it a requirement to strategise you just take a second to look at what changed and spam in accordance. I've seen some anons try to claim that the element switches caught them off guard but because it works like SMT now in that regard it's it's the most easy thing to get around.
>story
I'm just going to give you this one because I was personally so bored with it time stranger that I just skipped most of the dialogue.

>>723546220
GOTTEM digishills in shambles

>>723546220
All true and it's still better than any poketrash

>>723546220
>the grind that has been made so ridiculously easy that it's practically nonexistent in a game that's balanced around not needing to grind is worse than the previous game which wasn't even grindy in the first place in order to sell dlc
I don't know why you even bothered posting at all.

>>723545531
Wow, talk about dishonest, you know we can see what you posted right?
>>723545081
>Do you think Monster Rancher and Pokemon mainline are the same genre?
The key word here is "genre" not "gameplay", if you genuinely believe that monster rancher has the same gameplay as pokemon then good on you.
As for being in the same genre you tell me which I'm describing
"a game set in a world where monsters and humans live together where they hold monster battles as a sport, which became popular worldwide, leading to official battle tournaments where you climb up the ranks. Raising a monster entails raising their stats through fighting, items, changing their form etc."

>>723546463
You clearly haven't played time stranger, that or you're just content with spamming with any mon you get.

TS is a pretty good JRPG and ZA is a shitty low budget Pokemon game
take your pick

>>723526437 (OP)
-user has joined your channel

Do you even need to ask?

-user has left your channel

>>723546718
Well, a shitty pokemon game is better than a good jrpg so ZA.

>>723526437 (OP)
TS is awesome :)
ZA is poopy :/

>>723546640
>"a game set in a world where monsters and humans live together where they hold monster battles as a sport, which became popular worldwide, leading to official battle tournaments where you climb up the ranks. Raising a monster entails raising their stats through fighting, items, changing their form etc."

Nta but genres are defined by gameplay not setting otherwise we can start arguing xCom and Halo are the same because both games are sci-fi in which you repel an alien menace.

>>723543319
Unlike all those games, Time Stranger features no fags or western agenda, and is just a fun monster game that does what it sets out to

>>723546960
You read at most twelve words of that post and replied based on that.
Read it again and give a proper answer.

>>723546690
You're just retarded. With no grinding the agent skills that are gated by progression will ensure you always have enough stats to match the enemy for the main story and sidequests, all you need is to not avoid enemies on your way through the game. But if you did want to grind anyway for fun or to change digimon around the methods for earning stats are extremely generous to the point that you can just buy stats outright, to say nothing of exploits like infinite digimon spawning for Loading. Especially at endgame, which is the only point you even might need to grind, where a single battle earns you enough money to buy max stats for 2-3 stats at once (max in any stat is massive overkill).

>>723546960
>Nta but genres are defined by gameplay
Monster Hunter is now an MMO.

>>723546640
>As for being in the same genre you tell me which I'm describing
Definitely not Digimon.

>>723547090
Nta game genres and setting genres are different you can't just say they're the same thing.

>>723547108
>to match the enemy for the main story
So it's the latter, you're content with spamming.

>>723526437 (OP)
Right.
Time Stranger is the superior choice.
Z-A not only has boring mechanics but it also looks lifeless.
That and absolutely no voices because Nintendo are so cheap they don't hire VA's despite them drowning in money.

>>723547182
No response at all, as expected.

>>723547159
No shit, they're talking about pokemon and monster rancher

>>723547090
My answer stays the same? I’m not even that anon. Monster Rancher plays nothing like Pokemon, it has similar theming but it’s not the same

>>723546220
t.

>>723546220
>animation
Is Z-A as good or better.
>QoL
Is Z-A as good or better.
>Map design
Sure.
>Gameplay
Is Z-A as good or better.
>Difficulty
Is Z-A as good or better.

The entire point of the post was comparing the two games. You are referring to Time Stranger improving over CSHM which is utterly irrelevant.

>>723547248
So digimon isn't a monster tamer then?

>>723547234
Anon, how exactly did you read that
>the game is easy
And
>the grinding methods are tedious
And come to the conclusion that it had anything to do with stat requirements for battle and not obtaining Digimon?
You're not getting a response to your post because none of it is relevant.

>>723545471
They could never give a bad score to pokemon because pokefags would take that as a personal attack

>>723547248
The discussion is about the "monster tamer" genre and that description is anon's reason that Digimon is the same as Pokemon, try to follow along.

>>723543758
I dunno, I think it's similar shit, but it's amped up if you're trying to get rare Yo-kai. You could get the one first try and that feels great, but more often than not you're grinding or refreshing a spawn spot for a specific Yo-kai.
Yo-kai battles are always a gamble as to who you may befriend or not, always a chance at a roll. Digimon guarantees the roll at 100% and lets you see the meter build up. Not to mention, there isn't a concept like super rare digimon that only have like a 1% chance to spawn over world and that you need to defeat to spawn, because of digivolution.

>>723547249
>My answer stays the same? I’m not even that anon
You clearly are him. You're trying too hard to make people think you aren't.
Anyway, it doesn't matter either way because the point wasn't that you were pretending to be someone else, it's that you didn't read it to see the part about the gameplay and story progression.
That said, claiming that you're someone else makes it hilarious since now you're just a random anon with a poor attention span who's getting angry on someone else's behalf.

>>723547354
You are changing the topic. Your claim was not about tedium or difficulty of the grind in a vacuum, it was that the game is worse than Cyber Sleuth specifically because they nerfed the grind compared to the previous title in order to sell dlc which is not true in the slightest. Just a dumb retard who doesn't understand either game at all.

>>723547295
>The entire point of the post was comparing the two games
That was the point of YOUR post, the point of that post was to answer this one >>723545380

>>723547354
Not him but you sounded butthurt they removed platshitmon+USB combo. I'd take running through the map with my bro than sitting on Kowloon for 90 hours.

>>723547593
>>723547659
Wow.
This is genuinely hilarious.

>>723547593
>You are changing the topic
Anon, you're the one associating the grind with difficulty. You're the source of the issue.

>>723545045
It's funny you say that about the story, both ZA and the previous poke trashheap had nice charming stories. Ones which I'd overall would rate as better than most Digimon games unfortunately.

>>723547572
Dude what the fuck are you trying to say
You listed a bunch of story/plot progression elements and then asserted that because they are shared between Pokemon and Monster Rancher they are the same genre. If that wasn’t your point you need to rephrase it because it’s not clear what you mean.

>>723547918
>You listed a bunch of story/plot progression elements
In other words you just admitted to this >>723547090 since there's more than the first few words in that post.

>>723547918
NTA but are you trying to say that battling isn't gameplay now?

>>723547918
>>723548067
>>723548112
Have any of you ever played monster rancher?

>>723547846
That didn't happen. I explained to you that the grinding is unnecessary to address your claim that it was nerfed to sell dlc, then explained how the grinding was easier in Time Stranger to address your claim that it was nerfed. You misunderstood that because you don't understand the games at all and probably bought the dlc dungeons. Now you'll change the topic again.

>>723548067
I’m not playing this game where you say something retarded and then pretend nobody understands you have fun

>>723527586
Palworld is an Ark Survival game with progression tied to servers. Why the fuck would you suggest that to anyone looking for a monster RPG?

>>723537314
Switch 2 > Switch 1 emulation > Switch 1 Native
That's usually the case unless its a game with a 30fps cap like Astral Chain.

>>723548428
Given you're the only one who doesn't understand and you confirmed that you didn't read it nor did you even give an answer to the question posed to you oh, and another anon actually understood it's obvious the issue is on you.

Palworld won

>>723526437 (OP)
Bro this pokemon game fucking rocks
Just running around the city doing whatever I like, picking shit up, catching mons scaling rooftops its fucking KINO

>>723548428
Nigga, you were just supposed to pick one of two games.
Why did you get this pissed off and claim no one went over the gameplay?

You could have just called him a faggot and moved on, now you look like a dipshit.

>>723537553
trvke nuke
Palslop is hyped up because of the social narrative among the loud minority on the Internet. Nobody speaks about the merits of Palworld as a game because it's fucking Ark.

Pokemon ZA is poorly balanced because you're shooting yourself by not using the fastest mons.

Digimon has the best single player, but no replayability as you said. At that point, you're better off playing an Atlus RPG.

>>723548067
>The key word here is "genre" not "gameplay"
>If you think they have the same gameplay then good for you
>as for being in the same genre you tell me which I'm describing
Mind you all of this is in the context of you thinking that someone is using genre and gameplay interchangeably or moving the goalposts. The part in quotes in your post is what defines the genre by your definition. The only part in it that could maybe apply to gameplay is the last part about "raising stats through fighting, items, changing form, etc" but that doesn't really define anything beyond the concepts and all the games being discussed have different gameplay and mechanics used to do all that.
At the very least anon assuming that you're making a distinction between gameplay and genre is a perfectly good faith interpretation.

>>723528040
>MHS3 happens 200 years after MHS3, Navirou is ded
Thank god

>>723544028
He sexo

>>723548819
>At the very least anon assuming that you're making a distinction between gameplay and genre is a perfectly good faith interpretation.
Read the reply
>>723546960
>Nta but genres are defined by gameplay not setting
He didn't even reach the end of it and assumed the whole thing was about setting.
That's what makes his tantrum funny, he created his own problem.

>>723548819
>that doesn't really define anything beyond the concepts and all the games being discussed have different gameplay and mechanics used to do all that.
NTA but that is gameplay for this genre. It describes Digimon too, and Spectrobes and Moe Chronicles and SMT and Siralim since they all use that same core of interaction. The only difference at the end of the day would be superficial aspects like the name of the items and how much they raise stats by.
I mean, if you're giving a demon incense in smt is it any different to giving a pokemon a vitamin on a mechanical level?

>>723537553
>Do, just play Pokerogue lol
embarassing

>>723542260
SV is a fun game with severe technical issues that are resolved by using an emulator or the Switch 2. It's better than SWSH, SM and XY. And I'm saying this as someone who primarily plays games on the Deck pic related. Furthermore, I have no interest in buying ZA nor a Switch 2 because I just don't think its current library is good enough to warrant a purchase at the moment. The other benefit to me would be improved performance on 3rd party games... but I already have my Deck for that. Have to say and do all this shit because if you have an opinion that isn't 1:1 with some retarded Youtuber, then you'll be called a tendie. God forbid you form your own opinions. SV is the best mainline 3D Pokemon game with Legends Arceus LA was hated at first until SV came out too which further proves my claim that nobody can have a reasonable discussion of these games unless there's a new game for the hate mob to latch on to and the Collosseum duology being the best 3D games overall.

With the release of ZA, a lot of the hate towards SV has shifted to ZA so people who like SV can talk about it in peace. The shit part about the modern Internet is that it's filled with brainless idiots who will hate on something so that they can be part of a community even if it's a mindless hate bandwagon that's lead by Youtubers and Reddit.

>>723549524
>LA was hated at first until SV came out too
No it wasn't?
It got the usual switch shitposting from the regulars here but everywhere else it was just taken as a good pokemon game.

>>723542792
Jesus Christ that video makes Pokemon look like an indie game

So what I've gathered from this thread is that Shin Megami Tensei won, HEE HO!

>>723549236
The concept of "similar" doesn't exist on /v/ anon. If you try to say they have similar mechanics people will assume you're trying to say that they're the same.

>>723532021
>critic reviews

>>723549981
So just Digimon is shit.

>>723542792
Game freak should really put their foot down and demand more time/funding from TPC and Nintendo because Jesus Christ how did we get here?

>>723550154
Yeah, the company that wants to constantly work on pokemon solo should demand that they get more time and funding from people who don't control their time and funding.
Better yet they should control their time and team correctly and stop making nonsense like Beast of Resurrection or whatever it was called that's just wasting their money.

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon Cyber Sleuth is way better than Pokemon Zoo Aids

>>723544619
>nd finding where specific monsters spawn but TS doesn't have that.
Because you don't need it, your main way to find new digimon is to go through evolution line by evolving and devolving.

>>723547619
Oh. So you’re just a retard.

Damn, pokeshills still exist. I guess it is a nintendo property

>>723551193
If they existed they would be shilling pokemon instead of explaining Digimon.

>>723526437 (OP)
I've not played ZA, but Digimon is just more of the same as Cyber Sleuth, with higher production values than Pokemon. I find both of them boring.

>>723551614
>is just more of the same as Cyber Sleuth
It really isn't

>>723551651
Demo seemed the same when I played it

>>723551665
Gave me that feeling too when I first played, but it wasn't

>>723551697
Go on, what makes it different?

>>723526437 (OP)
Pokemon is better because it's free, Denuvo is anti-consumer

>>723527307
>it has the quality of digimon and the presence of pokemon.
Really?

>>723526437 (OP)
IMAGINE BUYING THAT N64-TIER POKEMON GAME AAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>723530327
>Doesn't treat you like a toddler with it's narrative.
LOL

>>723551805
>BUYING
well actually Gamefreak thought about that and made the game run flawlessly on Ryujinx on purpose so broke fans could play it, meanwhile Digimon has Denuvo

>>723551721
>>>/vt/ranny

>>723548498
>with progression tied to servers
Not true, retard

>>723551885
Still waiting for what makes it different (also, not a vtranny)

Fake digimon for amerimutts vs gay pokemon can't go right with any of them

>>723551721
First the combat, if you have played the demo you should know how annoying was in Cyber Sleuth that every 2 steps you got a random fight, while in TS you have the monsters walking around the map, so you can try to either dodge them or attack them to get them hurt, also that if you are strong enough you can skip the fight and get the EXP and shit for free.
All the Digimons get EXP and level up, you can carry 999 Digimons with you and all of them will get EXP, making farming way easier.
The dungeons too, in CS you had Kowloon, all blue and boring. in TS you have a lot of very nice looking places and dungeons, never feeling repetitive.
There's also the fact that most of the game you spent it in the Digimon World, traveling to different zones with Locomon or Blimpmon, instead of what CS did that was just... never going to the actual Digimon World and instead being forced to go to some boring ass internet zones...

>>723551651
It is, the only significant difference is the fact that it's not in blue cube world and they put in way more paid dlc.

>>723551947
I will say, this seems like tiny changes, except actually traveling to the Digi world. That seemed retarded in CS (I never played Hacker, so maybe the expansion was different)

>>723532021
Pokemon is 79 with Nintendo and Poke score boosts. Grim.

>>723531371
No, retard.
>attack that specifically burns berries
>attack that specifically raises speed
>attack that specifically traps the enemy
>attack with high crit chance
>attack that does damage based on your HP
>attack that can flinch
Not even 1/4 of the fire moves. You know what, fuck you. Fire Pledge ALONE does fucking more than every non signature in here
>Fire Pledge inflicts damage.
>When two allies attempt to use Fire Pledge and either Water Pledge or Grass Pledge on the same turn, the ally moving first will not itself use a move, but instead the ally moving second will use a combined attack with a power of 150 and an additional effect immediately after it:
>If Fire Pledge and Water Pledge are used in the same turn, the ally moving second will use Water Pledge with a power of 150, and create a rainbow on the user's side of the field for four turns. The rainbow doubles the probability of additional effects taking place for moves used by that side of the field (including the chance of flinching caused by King's Rock and Razor Fang, but not including Secret Power); this effect is cumulative with Serene Grace for chances to cause a stat change or inflict a status, but not for chances to cause flinching.
>If Fire Pledge and Grass Pledge are used in the same turn, the ally moving second will use Fire Pledge with a power of 150, and create a sea of fire on the target's side of the field for four turns. The sea of fire damages all non-Fire-type Pokémon on that side of the field for 1/8 of their maximum HP at the end of each turn.

>>723551947
>if you have played the demo you should know how annoying was in Cyber Sleuth that every 2 steps you got a random fight, while in TS you have the monsters walking around the ma
How you encounter Digimon doesn't change the combat anon.
>All the Digimons get EXP and level up,
Just like CSHM.
>The dungeons too, in CS you had Kowloon, all blue and boring. in TS you have a lot of very nice looking places and dungeons, never feeling repetitive.
That's just graphics, what about their design? Did they put any thought into exploration? Post map or something instead of a bullshot.
>There's also the fact that most of the game you spent it in the Digimon World, traveling to different zones with Locomon
That's still the same thing glorifying graphics over design.

>>723552006
History is focused on the Digimons instead of humans, and it ends up more about saving the digital world as you spend way more time there than the real world.

>>723552126
>That's just graphics, what about their design? Did they put any thought into exploration?
Fucking nope

>>723552126
Oh it's you again, nevermind.

>>723539105
>What should I do? Should I use sci.... no! PAPER!
You forgot that specific rock is immune to paper. Fucking idiot.

>>723552193
The fuck do you mean "it's you again"?

>>723526437 (OP)
I like both for different reasons. This tells me you are a retard doing disingenous comparisons considering their gameplay is nothing alike.

>>723552228
He's weaseling out of actually addressing what you said because he never actually played the game.

>>723552284
Please tell me that's early in the game

>>723552357
How are you even understanding the map without playing the game

>>723552357
No, that's the mid game area. There are several minor changes between past Gear Forest and present Gear Forest.

>>723526437 (OP)
Time Stranger = Palword >>>>>> shit > ZA

>>723552412
It's... A map.
A map with a key on the left side.

As someone who basically spent 90% of his childhood playing gen 3 and 4 Pokemon games the lack of an actual quality big budget monster collecting game in 2025 is saddening, we have actual big budget Monster Hunter games now but nothing like Pokemon with AAA production values

>>723552541
Yeah, exactly. It's a map. Just like in real life, there's no way you can read it without having traveled the entire world already. You wouldn't have any way of understanding what you're looking at. That's why maps are stupid, if you buy it you won't be able to understand it unless you've already been everywhere and then you won't need it.
I am very smart and not a huge retard at all.

>>723552786
I almost thought that reply was serious because of how stupid that anon was.

>>723552691
>we have actual big budget Monster Hunter games now but nothing like Pokemon with AAA production values
Why would you use MH to parade around how good big budget games are when the two big budget MH games we have were the worst in the series?
I mean, why do you think the sales of Wilds fucking tanked hard? Once people looked beyond the brand and saw it was shit they just stopped buying altogether.

>>723552461
Significant changes. Because if it's just that then jesus fuck that's bad.

>>723552485
Based

>start digimon thread on its own
>everyone loves it
>start digimon vs the worst pokemon game yet
>suddenly digimon sucks
Hmmmm

>>723553564
shouldn't have added denuvo

>>723549524
Everything you said was pure facts

>>723532021
Subtract 10 from Pokemon to account for Nintendo bonus. Add 10 to Time Stranger to account for the "didn't release on a Nintendo console" demerits.

>>723527307
Stories would be good if it had any kind of difficulty. Fucking braindead ass game for babies.

>>723553564
Digi threads were fun until Pokemon came out, now it's just all comparison shit-flinging

>>723554049
There's a chill one right now

>>723526489
>pokemon is more fun to play, but has worse graphics
>digimon is more boring to play but has better graphics
That's what I thought but then ...you literally stay in the damn city all the time?
I mean the gameplay itself is serviceable but I Just keep doing that in the same place for 50 hours?
Like at least in palworld there are multiple islands with different biomes

>>723553564
Digimon threads have been shit the moment people started using Time Stranger to shit on pokemon, now you can't even air a single criticism or it's all
>YOU TENDIE YOU'RE DEFENDING POKEMON
As if anyone were even talking about pokemon.
The worst part is that those cunts don't even play Digimon.

>>723554138
You know it's not just the city streets right?

>>723554339
There's empty rooftops to go with the empty streets.

>>723554375
More than that too

>>723552145
I thought these two were the bears.

>>723554512
You mean the two (2) late game dungeons that you spend 10 minutes in each?

>>723554625
We're not talking about Digimon

>>723549524
based self-actualized adult who can play their own games and formulate their own opinions

>>723554692
Yeah, I know. Have you even played the game you're shilling for?

>>723554775
Have you?
Nah I can't say that, you just proved you haven't

>>723554818
I already played and completed the game. You never leave the city.

>>723526437 (OP)
a good game is one that makes you happy, that's all there is to it, this make believe rivalry is only fodder for people who are insecure about the entertainment they consume

>>723546220

>While the graphics are okay the actual animation is pretty bad with a lot of them being reused from CSHM, then you have something like Gundramon's signature where it's just standing there. You also said this twice.
Define pretty bad. Like what exactly do you consider a good show of quality animation for signature move ? The animation literally goes above and beyond. You have 450 digimon each with unique attack animations some have 2 or 3 spacial attack animation so yeah you're bound to find ones that aren't that impressive when you have hundreds of attack animations and the worst ones are still better than anything in Pokemon which is the point of the comparison
>Time Stranger hasn't improved in that regard in any particular manner
The level grind is pretty easy especially easier than cshm and doesn't require you to waste your slots on digimon you don't want like platinum numemon
>Again it's a visual/gameplay disconnect. While the environments look nice the map design is horribly linear.
It's not an open world game , Story games aren't open world
>Time Stranger is the epitome of the spam jrpg especially when you start getting megas that have powerful AOE attacks
That's basically any jrpg with backtracking. I don't want to involve myself in a battle with level 5 digimon when I'm 30 hours into the game which is why digiattack was created and most of your criticism is easily solved with mega+
>TS makes the same mistake all Digimon games do equating difficulty to tedium
Idk what you mean by spam it seems like your way of playing the game when you can easily optimize your experience by leaning towards secondary moves and injuries
>story
I honestly think you skipped basically everything not just the story and I'm curious about the type of turn based Combat you wanted because even the best reviewed turn based games like p5 aren't more than weakness all out attack

>>723554890
>GAYma 1/2

>>723526437 (OP)
right is an actual game
left is a shitty merch catalog

>>723554857
Who said anything about leaving the city?

>>723555083
I sure hope nobody, because it would be a lie on par with saying there is more to do than prowl the streets of pokefrance.

>>723554958
>Define pretty bad.
He literally gave you an example they you quoted

>>723555139
So you're trying to strawman now

>>723555193
No, I'm pointing out that you're shilling for a game you've never played. I hope you at least get paid to do it.

>>723555316
Who's shilling what now? I haven't said anything good about it

>retard
>no thoughts
>ngmi

>>723555394
You're deflecting away from facts that show the game in a negative light.

>>723555434
What facts? You said it was just the streets, I said it isn't, we know it isn't and you've already revised your argument and you still haven't named them all.
And that's when you started lashing out.

>>723555579
It is all streets.

>>723554579
Same. I thought they forgot about their buried thing, Then the brothers actually showed up again and I realised I was retarded

>>723555656
Going back to the original claim I see.

>>723555140
His example is meaningless because animation being reused from a previous game that had good animation doesn't make the animation pretty bad and I already said that the game offers unique attack animation for 450 digimon and some have 2 or 3 special attacks meaning we have probably like 500 attack animations at least and he used one example he didn't like out of the hundreds that exist.
https://youtu.be/yJJLf7Dx2vQ

>>723552485
TRVKE

>>723556408
>that had good animation
Bold claim when you see how bad CSHM's animations were
By the way, I'd like to point out how hilarious it is that you're gushing about the animation when the very first animation in your video is a generic one being passed off as a unique one.

>>723556408
>twenty dive
>just a run and jump
Wow

>>723556408
>good
I mean its serviceable but id only consider a handful good since they really only went out of their way for the popular mons.

>>723556408
I think my favorite one is Enbarrmon because it's just so fucking bad.
If you look at it there's absolutely no animation whatsoever while they drag it around the screen but they cover it up with a fuck ton of effects.

>>723556625
>that had good animation
>Bold claim when you see how bad CSHM's animations were
>By the way, I'd like to point out how hilarious it is that you're gushing about the animation when the very first animation in your video is a generic one being passed off as a unique one.
It's the in training stage where every in training has basically the same attack it's not a big deal since you aren't really meant to even have them fight for 99% of the game
Again any example of good animations? Like you gotta have something to offer for comparison so we can have a clear line for good comparison. This conversation has also been interesting because it began as a question of comparing Pokemon and digimon but there was nothing presented from the Pokemon side at all .
That's like asking why Pokemon has no voice acting like digimon and the response being well the VA in digimon is shit and thinking you won the argument.

>>723557305
>It's the in training stage where every in training has basically the same attack
See the problem with that is they do in fact have in training mon that are far more simple with unique animations so it's not impossible and it's not just in training there's a ton like that, drillmon just uses the same animation but they just remove his drills, I think Salamon is the same as well.
So basically the animation is fucking except for the fan favorites.

>>723557305
Yeah the goal post was completely changed that Pokemon was thrown out of the conversation completely when the question was what digimon does worse than Pokemon just for the replies then to mention SMT, CS and HM but nothing about pokemon.

>>723557305
>>723557595
It was never about pokemon if you scroll up the guy asked what part of his post was wrong, he only talked about Digimon getting a solid chunk wrong so the response was correcting what he said about Digimon.

>>723557587
It goes right into the ultimate too
Wisemon is the same
Shakkoumon just sort of opens his eyes meaning his generic animation has more than his unique animation.
As much as I love Ulforce his ray of victory is just his generic animation
Same with Valdurmon's second unique and maybe the first the effects hide it a lot.

>>723557595
That's not what moving the goalposts means, and it had nothing to do with SMT either beyond mentioning that the element system in TS works like SMT.

>>723557771
Anon the first post was a response to op question "which is the better mon game " there we see Pokemon za and time stranger
Then anon >>723545045 responds comparing both games no SMT no CSHM. He gets called a shill and when asks what he said wrong he's presented with criticism of TS that doesn't tie to the purpose of his post which was comparing it to za.
For instance to make my point clear. If I'm asked what persona has the better gameplay experience p4 or p5 I'd say p5 then go on to list what I liked better then an angry p4 fan would start shitting on P5 Combat and put it against e33 or SMT but never adresses If P4 is Better or not which was the main topic.
I can go on and criticize time stranger in its own right and explain why I think some mechanics could be better but the topic is an overview of the game in comparison to another one.

>>723556408
>Lucemon FM reenact his beatdown scene from Frontier
muh dick

>>723558447
>Then anon >>723545045 # responds comparing both games no SMT no CSHM
Meanwhile in the rest of the reply chain.
>>723545183
>>723545380
>>723546220
And the only mention of SMT was to explain how Time Stranger works rather than actually talking about SMT.
It's all Digimon and it's all correcting that guy. It's not about any other monster tamer or for the sake of a comparison, not to mention he doesn't even bring up everything that one anon said, just the parts that were wrong because the purpose wasn't to say what was better.

>For instance to make my point clear
You don't have much of a point, you clearly misunderstood the intent and just got butthurt about it several hours later long after the guy probably left.

>but the topic is an overview of the game in comparison to another one.
The topic clearly shifted when you asked to correct what was wrong

>>723558805
Is the joke supposed to be that they both made monster harems?
Because I wouldn't have chosen mega lucario and starmie when mega frosslass exists

>>723558832
>And the only mention of SMT was to explain how Time Stranger works rather than actually talking about SMT.
It's weird how he's hanging on that point like he only saw the letters because they were in caps and he assumed that it was brought up for no reason

>>723526437 (OP)
Second what >>723545045 said
Although I think Pokemon ZA and Digimon TS are very different games overall.
>>723553564
I don't like the 'us vs them' fighting between the games. It is super lame.
The silver lining is that I hope people that only play Pokemon games get to experience other RPGs (doesn't have to be Time Stranger) and understand how bad Pokemon is treating its audience in comparison. The new game looks alright and I think its flaws are being exaggerated (especially compared to Sword/Shield, Scarlet/Violet). That said I don't think it looks good either, while I think Digimon Time Strangers looks and plays good. I have been enjoying myself playing it at least. It isn't the best RPG ever or anything like that- it is a solid RPG game with Digimon. That is all it needs to be.

>>723559794
>The silver lining is that I hope people that only play Pokemon games get to experience other RPGs
Anon if they were capable of that they wouldn't be shitting on it so much.

>>723526437 (OP)
Do you even have to ask?

>>723527307
I will never be friends with m*nsters
Lizard genocide NOW

>>723526489
I tried both, and both are slightly boring.
Time Stranger is boring at grinding itself.
Legends Z-A is boring at the miryad of cutscenes and the combat being monotonous.

yeah but if digimon didn't have mega/ultimates pokemon can win in a fight

>>723560320
metalgreymon shoots nukes

>>723558832
You may find it useful to actually go and read the original post since it was pretty simple.
He literally just says that QQL and animation in digimon is better than the ones in za that's it. The response to him doesn't disprove him wrong by proving that za is actually superior in these aspects rather it deflects to saying that these aspects aren't actually that good in digimon while completely avoiding talking about pokemon which was the main purpose of the post. Again you can write an essay nitpicking every frame of animation in TS that wouldn't disprove the og point which is that it's better than za so if you can't even bring za then the whole debate is meaningless
and it's telling us nothing new. Anon >>723545045 even says directly that is all in comparison with za like saying that the map in TS is better than the one city in za that's literally it , disproving his statement would necessarily need to include za into the mixture to prove him wrong which was never done . You can write a whole essay on why you think the map is bad but anon only claimed that it's better than za and you're purposely trying to avoid engaging with anything relating to za for some reason

>>723545045
>From what I’ve seen? Digimon’s world seems more interesting and engagin
But you can explore 20% of what you can see.

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon Time Stranger and it's not even fucking close

>>723526641
What a Fucking Timeline we are living in man......I'm happy for Digimon

>>723560765
You could make the same argument since you can see the region of Kalos in the background whenever you go to the Lumiose rooftops. WHICH STILL UPSETS ME BECAUSE WHY WOULD THEY STICK YOU IN THE LEAST INTERESTING PLACE IN THE REGION FOR A FULL GAME. EVERY LOCATION (ESPECIALLY THE ROUTES) IN THAT REGION ARE MUCH BETTER LOOKING THAN LUMIOSE, YET THEY DECIDED TO KEEP YOU IN CIRCLE CITY FOR AN ENTIRE GAME WHY JUST WHY WHO DECIDED ON THAT
And besides, that doesn't have anything to do with that anon's point anyway.

>>723552691
>but nothing like Pokemon with AAA production values
pokemon will never have a AAA production. pokemon has not and never will be a AAA game. The only AAA JRPG left is Square and arguably some Atlus games but those seem more like AA games with really good composers.

>>723561216
>You could make the same argument since you can see the region of Kalos in the background whenever you go to the Lumiose rooftops.
No, not really. A background far, far off into the distance is different from a tunnel or road you can't go through because.....you just can't.

>>723532021
>Critics score
That's like counting kills in a Capture the Flag match, anon.

>>723550005
>So just Digimon is shit... b-because is shit...
Rent Free

>>723561823
I'm talking about Kalos. And I'm agreeing with you.
But that doesn't make it less interesting to that anon that said that. I think Shinjuku, the Digital world, and all those strange middle zones (the challenge zones whatever they are called) are much more interesting than Lumiose. There are some cool places in Lumiose, don't get me wrong- but in terms of being interesting? I agree with that anon in that Digimons TS's place is more interesting.
AND AGAIN I think Kalos is one of the best regions in the Pokemon series, so its a huge shame they didn't let you explore it in the game. This argument would be harder if the game was set around Kalos because I may argue Kalos is more interesting than some of the Digital world areas.

>>723562303
Well yeah Digimon is my favorite series. I'm going to buy that Amped Emperor to add to my collection too

>>723560513
Context is hard for you to understand isn't it.

>>723561823
There's nothing interesting passed this point in real life so why bother putting it in the game? I think there's like a parking lot in that open spot under the train and some back-alley apartments

>>723560059
if there is no skip button in Legends Z-A, then i wont buy it. I won't pay 80$ to watch mute cinema in my switch 2.
Nintendo you are lazy. VAs are not that expensive but those greedy fucks will try anything in their power to save all the money they can.

>>723560059
What "miryad" if cutscenes?
There's like 15 minutes of them.

>>723562896
>VAs are not that expensive
Dude, because of the union and how clique-y they are it is VAs are fucking expensive in the west. That why most non-AAA games even bother with them anymore.

>>723563179
Is it like a low attention span zoomer thing that people are so desperate for them? Because I genuinely don't get the desire for it, I mean, I'm playing time stranger right now and hearing them scream out their moves takes me out of it no matter what language I'm playing in.

Pokemon doesn't lock all of your evolutions behind annoying side quests full of back tracking so probably pokemon.

>>723538750
You were saying?

>>723560059
>TS
>Grind

Nigga, TS is anything but grindy once you learn the mechanics, also farm skip grind. Grind DLC is just retard bait.

>>723544028
>>723548980
He can cuck me with my wife any day

>>723563506
Okay so what are the mechanics then?
I started playing it when it came out and dropped at Vulcanusmon since it seemed I'd probably have to grind
Been a few weeks and I want to pick it back up

>>723563506
We get it, you just play with whatever shit on you can.

>>723563497
imagine the digismell

>>723546690
>>723564396
>I don't have argument so I keep repeating inane

>>723565795
What is this supposed to prove exactly?

>>723563378
Armor mons are quite mediocre and you can get a few couple of them by devolving some mons.

Also SV locks legendary behind DLC.

>>723565954
>Also SV locks legendary behind DLC.
No it doesn't.

>>723564391
>Filtered by Vulcanusmon
Let me guess, you don't understand rock-paper-scissors?

>>723564391
>Okay so what are the mechanics then?
mostly type advantage. use reversal on yourself or your party to get advantage if you don't have it naturally, use equipment to resist the element of a boss if you don't clear it first try. teams that specialize in one element and have attacks that reduce resistance to that element are how you maximize your damage. buffs/debuffs are good if you have the ability that extends them to 5 turns. you probably shouldn't even need to interact with those mechanics if you're only at vulcanusmon unless you did something really stupid like have an all vaccine all fire attack team

>>723563506
>>723564391
This has to be some samefag attempt.

>>723526437 (OP)
How do I become the Twentiest?

>>723564391
>Vulcanusmon
Did you only use virus mons or something?

>>723566175
Yes it does. You can't get any of the past-gen legendaries without buying the DLC.

>>723526489
>pokemon is more fun to play
Fucking lying tranny.

>>723566385
Except by trading.
Same with SS, once you have the patch you can trade/transfer in any pokemon it added.

>>723526437 (OP)
digimon has beelstarmon so it wins

>>723566492
So you just buy at least one subscription service. And what will you send in exchange for the legendary?

>>723566245
None of that has to do with grinding which is what I was asking about. The type matchup is stuff is in every fucking Digimon game, this is hardly my first one

>>723564391
There are several agent skills that gives you certain amount of discount for digivolving, also there are also exp boosts skills tree in there. There is no heavy grinding involved as long you know what you are doing,

>>723566589
>So you just buy at least one subscription service
Pokemon home is where the GTS is and that's 100% free to use.
>And what will you send in exchange for the legendary?
Some shitmon shiny or trash from Go.

You didn't think any of this through did you

>>723526489
Most honest post in the thread. I do not get how Digislop is held in any higher regard than Pokeslop when it's even more boring to play.

>>723566712
So just pay for Home to get the Pokemon into your game?

>>723565954
You're thinking of SMT or Time Stranger.
The only DLC exclusive content are the maps and stories that come with it, once you update your game you can use every pokemon introduced in the dlc.

>>723566884
>So just pay for Home
>Pokemon home is where the GTS is and that's 100% free to use.
>100% free to use.

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon

>>723566962
So basically, in order to not make any extra payments, you have to play completely separate games and hope that you find someone willing to trade for the desired Pokemon?

>>723530883
>the skills which are universally applicable are generic
Well yeah

>>723566801
looks nicer plus plays faster
and let's be honest, pokemon is still boring and you're only going to get the depth of its mechanics playing showdown or romhacks, neither of which are the actual games

>>723566664
Search for this icon for digivolving.
Sword for bonus ATK, book for INT etc etc

>>723551726
>Pokemon
>free

>>723546009
I'm actually curious because I bet Digimon is also winning on this

>>723567347
that just turns one type of grind into another
I don't want to mess with the pain in the ass that is changing personality every time I want to evolve or devolve

>>723567280
Showdown is competitive, which you can play on cart.

People will play ZA into next year and beyond.

No one will even remember Digimen after this month.

>>723542394
There are similarities but they aren't the same

In Digimon World (and Re:Digitize and Next Order), your Digimon will move and act independently.
You as the tamer can issue commands, the specificity of which depends on your Digimon's brain stat. Issuing commands is not immediate, it just puts priority on the command among the Digimon's list of options. In NO you can cheer to earn points to immediately force a specific command.
There are no cooldowns like in ZA, but your Digimon is constantly acting so you have to get a feel for their animations to know when they're ready to accept a command.

If I showed you a screenshot comparison of the battles, you might say "wow this looks the same" but the mechanics are very different.

>>723567560
You can play online battles in the game itself but the whole process is 10x slower given the shitty Nintendo servers and having to watch animations for everything and you also have to deal with forced move and battle timers

>>723567372
always has been

>>723526437 (OP)
I have never played a single Digimon game in my life, and I can confidently say that Digimon game is better.

>>723567518
Since you're at Vulkanusmon, I assume you have around 4k agent skill points. Should be enough to get several stat boost nodes for all 4 types of personality.

>>723567138
I like how you've just been whittled down
>its locked to the dlc!
>well you still have to buy that!
>s-so you don't have to buy it but you have to play...
You're just admitting you don't like the game so your problem doesn't even exist anymore.
By the by you could just get a shiny in the game you're playing.

>>723567824
Average pokefag these days.

>>723526437 (OP)
pokemon is the better game and the sales say it all.
>>723526489
fun is what matters, graphic trannies are insufferable

>>723567392
The only area Digimon is winning in is how much the company doesn't give a shit about it's fans.

>>723568092
>Pokemon fan saying this
Lol lmao

>>723541013
>there's barely any context on the story and characters
It's almost like these are things you will learn as you continue to play

>>723526489
>pokemon is more fun to play
How can you just wake up everyday, open up this thread, and have the nerve to fucking lie

>>723568163
No, I'm a Digimon fan.
Have been for a long time.

>>723544028
Is nanimon a testicle?

>>723568406
Cute snapshits.

>>723568049
Good little piggie.

>>723568406
Are you a Xros Wars or Appmon fan?
Those are the only types of Digimon fans I'd say Bamco gives less of a shit about than Pokemon does about their fans

>>723544870
Does the field guide tell you where digimon are located like the pokedex in pokemon does?

>>723544115
You do not catch digimon, you raise them.

>>723543758
Digimon's system gives you a guarantee and a minimum encounter requirement. This is lower or higher based on the Digimon's evolution stage.
When you reach 100% scan, you can continue scanning before conversion up to 200% which will reward you with higher stats.
Every instance of a Digimon per battle counts towards scan rate, e.g. if you fight a battle with two Capurimon, you will immediately have 200% scan on Capurimon, because the Baby II level takes one scan to 100%.
The evolution system is also so open that you can, theoretically, take a single Digimon across the entire tree, so there is little stress about having to grind battles to convert a specific Digimon, as you can always reach it another way.

>>723544115
Show me how one catches monsters in monster rancher

>>723568714
>Are you a Xros Wars or Appmon fan?
Xros, I'd kill for an Amped OmegaShoutmon or X7.
That said Bamco just hates us in general especially fans in the west where they don't release any of their products, I don't think Pends have ever had an actual western release and let's not forget about what happened to the vital bracelet after they stuffed every franchise under the sun on it.

Whenever I see someone say that "Digimon fans are eating good" I just know they don't like the franchise at all.

>>723564391
Was expecting SHEEN OF BEE complains but
>Vulcanusmon

digimon objectively has deeper mechanics, better graphics, better presentation, better mons, than pokemon, its not even a comparison

the pokemon company chases the lowest common denominator with their games, making them for literal babies with mind numbingly boring easy gameplay where you can never fail and forcing you through endless hand holding tutorials

the digimon company isn't delusional enough to think they are attracting a younger audience with their games, so they make them with an older audience in mind who grew up with digimon, which is why you have deeper gameplay systems in combat, bosses that challenge your teams with resistance checks and deeper systems outside of combat with the freedom in which you can evolve or devolve mons into multiple paths, what a stupid thread

you vs the digimon he tells you not to worry about

>>723569210
>digimon objectively has deeper mechanics
So you've never played a pokemon or Digimon game.

>>723569210
>digimon objectively has deeper mechanics
Maybe you should actually play a Digimon game for once.

>>723553972
Pokémon isn't? And I dont mean pvp, you can beat most games with your starter

>>723569210
>digimon objectively has deeper mechanics
Bitch it doesn't even have move combos and the abilities are far simpler.

>>723564391
Get 2 virus data and vaccine digimon and literally just swap them based on what arms he has out and the fight is easy

>>723569337
Thing is, pokemon doesn't pretend to be a hard game, the fun of the game is the fun of collecting and exploring.
With Digimon the game pretends like its hard by bloating HP values to elongate a fight for no reason.

>>723568772
No? Because digimon is not monster catching. They usually contained in one biome i.e birds, veggies and insectoids on jungle; sea creatures on abyss area; or mechanical digimons on factorial area.

>>723569094
Okay, so you're a non-Japanese V-pet fan, got it, I should have included that
But I wouldn't confuse that with the broader Digimon fanbase, I love Digimon but couldn't give a single fuck about the v-pets

>>723563506
To be fair, they could have been playing on a different difficulty setting, and/or they may have not been paying attention to all the mechanics.
I played on the standard difficulty and so far only had to grind a little bit for two bosses. And it was more like 'these teammates are slightly under leveled, so I need to farm Digimon to feed them'.

>>723569307
i have, unlike you

>>723569416
I was doing that, problem is I couldn't kill the arms fast enough and got overwhelmed
So I feel like I probably need to grind some

Has there still yet to be a pokemon design that surpasses Gabumon?

>>723569782
I'd say most Pokemon designs do
Gabumon is literally wearing a fursuit, why am I supposed to respect it?

>>723569683
There's no way a person could play both and conclude Digimon is more mechanically complex. The latest entries don't even beat something as old as Emerald.

>>723569725
Have you been converting Digimon and loading them into your teammates?
Are you spending your agent skills?
Are you giving your Digimon new moves?
The Character Reversal move is also very OP so if you have a type disadvantage, you may want to consider giving one of your Digimon that move.
These are some things to consider if you haven't tried them already. Vulcanusmon has been my favorite personally, so I think once you are ready then it'll be more fun for you too.

>>723569962
Your ancestors skinned animals and wore their furs. Do you not respect them either?

>>723569542
>V-pet fan,
The entire series anon, not just the vpets.
Do you think I'm happy that Survive was mediocre, all of the adventure pandering, that they're only putting out one kit a year, ghost game ending without explaining what the big bad was or the Jewish dlc practices with time stranger? CS's dlc was all free.

Come up with whatever coping mechanism you want but core fans have been annoyed with Bamco's antics for years.

>>723570548
Casual fans truly will never understand the pain of core fans

>>723570548
>that Gallantmon model kit
I saw it in the store the other day and skipped out on him. He looks so fun.
If they ever make a Machinedramon model kit that isn't amplified then I'm getting that. I really don't like the amplified model kits they make. They did the same for Exodia and Black Luster Soldier, and I was let down they were amplified.

>>723552172
This is the dungeon by the way

>>723526437 (OP)
Both are bad because they are woke and censored and also selling you the game in bits icomplete with tons of content taken out as DLC.

>>723570931
Amped Machinedramon doesn't look too different to what he usually is so I would just go for it, I doubt bamco will ever make a regular figure rise, same goes for Exodia minus the markings

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon, better graphics and a more classic gameplay style.
In contrast, fights in Pokemon Z-A-Z-A-Z-A get fucked by invisible walls you and you pokemon will run and headbutt every time.
>more fun to play.
Totally the opposite.

>>723571295
Stop making this post every fucking half hour without actually explaining yourself you nigger.

>>723569302
Every time people boast about Pokémon's mechanics, it's always about the competitive scene
Which nobody fucking cares about
If the game itself is not taking advantage of that depth, then it might as well not be there because 99% of players will never notice it

>>723571712
>it's not part of the game because I don't care about it
Not an argument retard.

>>723571783
Give me a single instance within the single-player component of any given Pokémon game where this depth of mechanic is utilized.

>>723571913
The Battle Frontier. Any Battle Tower really.

>>723571712
>, it's always about the competitive scene
No, no it's not unless ust consider any kind of conversation about battle mechanics competitive discussion in a desperate attempt to disregard it.
>If the game itself is not taking advantage of that depth
Of course it does, the only reason you would believe it doesn't is if you're talking specifically about gimmicks and that would only really count for XY, every game since had characters using the gimmick of the gen.

>>723571443
Shut up Ishihara, now Hoyoverse will make your game and add sex, while you keep doing low poly versions that nobody like.

>>723572001
Nigga I did those as a kid exclusively spamming type-advantage damage-dealing moves

>>723526437 (OP)
Digimon is the better game in its class. You have a better time comparing the "Digimon world series" which mogs ZA by a landslide still. Only thing Pokemon ZA would do better is trainer visual customization and its baby difficulty curve. Palworld would outclass both. No where near worth 70-100$ price tag even if you were a richfg. Hell its so bad I would start selling some of the physical collectibles.

>>723572314
Oh man, why would you even lie like that.

>>723572342
>You have a better time comparing the "Digimon world series" which mogs ZA by a landslide still
Then do it, faggot.
Do it with time stranger too

>>723526437 (OP)
>another palcuck thread

>>723572358
I'm not lying though
That's the only way I have ever played Pokémon games, that's the only way I have ever built my teams, and I absolutely did clear the Battle Frontier in Emerald like that

>>723572314
With what team?

>>723572497
So either you didn't clear the battle frontier or you didn't play like that because you would get your shit rocked long before you even hit the second set.
Your best bet would be the pyramid or pike and that would be pure luck at best.

>>723537629
>they have different animations
The cinematic signature attack(s) of every single Digimon more than makes up for this defect.

>accuracy
Magic has accuracy ratings in this game.
>status effect chances
Digimon does not have a burn mechanic but a fire attack can hit an enemy and reduce their fire resistance which is a status change.

>>723572432
Honestly surprised no else has. If I had time I would go over everything maybe gimme a week. It would be a great video to make dosh from. Digimon Next order was like a few years ago too lol

>>723572550
Do you expect me to remember what I used 20 years ago?

>>723572715
Keep telling yourself that buddy

>>723526636
>Emulators are garbage
What is this supposed to prove now?

>>723569210
>digimon objectively has deeper mechanics
dude even something like a basic quick attack is deeper than what digimon has to offer by virtue of being a priority move. TS shoving any mechanical variety into the personality system means most players won't even see things that make some digimon more distinct. Very few digimon have signature attacks that do more than damage. Something like King Etemon with booing is the closest time stranger gets to bog standard Pokemon or SMT build.

There aren't many Digimon with counter attacks in time stranger because the game is so shallow having a digimon with a counter just breaks 99% of the game. All the major bosses have some form of status immunity because everything folds to poison.

>>723572314
nta, but you’re probably misremembering or just didn’t spend much time on it. it really gets really hard the deeper you go.

>>723572927
People have fallen through the map on switch and switch 2

>>723567243
That doesn't make it better, especially since there no alternatives besides the signature move.

>>723553919
Don't forget to add 10 points for pokemon since there's an I hate nintendo games boom right now.

>>723572732
>The cinematic signature attack(s) of every single Digimon more than makes up for this defect.
Not really, the unique attacks are carried hard by particle effect, most of the unique moves are just the basic animations at a different camera angle or just have no animations at all.
>Magic has accuracy ratings in this game.
Okay? I don't think you quite understand that part because in Digimon the different levels of move don't change accuracy values. If you don't get it that means Angel Ladder 1 will have the same 90% accuracy as Angel Ladder 3. Wheras ember in pokemon has 100% base accuracy while inferno has 50 if I remember right.
>and reduce their fire resistance which is a status change.
Okay and? That's not a status effect.

>>723573016
What does that have anything to do with your broken emulator video?

>>723572786
>Honestly surprised no else has
Tons of people have, the problem is that you just get a fuck ton of anti-tendie screaming that you're defending Pokemon when the comparisons put it on top.

>>723569725
Which Xburst are you using?

>>723526437 (OP)
anybody got that pic comparing GBA pokemon games to other games on the same system? I think it also compared DS games to other better looking DS games

>>723573379
ZA came out like days ago tho and gets wrecked by games even 20 years its age.

>>723560018
Anon, you use monsters to kill monsters.

>>723572786
Aren't the world games more focused monster raising? How comparable is the combat?

>>723573664
It's not, the World games are practically entirely autobattling.

I liked pokemon a good bit while I was playing
and then it shot me up like 80% of the ranks in a single cutscene, and it just sucked every single bit of investment I had out, the gameplay is serviceable but so is digimon, I prefer digimon's system for evolution besides the fucking farm.
z-a is just... boring. Nothing feels like there's stakes or purpose, arceus I felt like I was contributing, finding stuff, experiencing a story that showed off some neat mons in a new light.
z-a has not.

>>723573614
And yet no one can say why. Case in point this guy>>723573779

>>723573737
Sounds dumb to compare them then. But I don't know enough about the world games to see the argument

>>723573919
It very much is. The only similarity is that they're in real time, but it's not like these people have played either.

>>723573664
Yep and has more mechanics the progress made. Maps linear but feels like theres more assets and maps. Combat starts becoming similiar once the digimon is higher in intelligence and you have the trainer skill for commands. You are fighting other digimon and not so much "tamers/trainers". You can then use direct commands like in pkmn. The training segment of minigames generally dissuades ppl from enjoying it I feel unless you enjoy failure and gamblers high.

>>723543724
I only wanna plap the rookies for the most part.

>>723573664
>>723574075
Just to clarify so people don't think that it's a matter of earning 5 int to control your mon. You need 500

I'm very much enjoying Digimon. I had never played a digimon game before, and I'm having fun. There are some quality of life features i wish were implemented, automated conversion, notifications when you hit level cap, a way to interact with the personality system without needing to be banked or dismounted and one of the 3 party active. Automatic equipping of progressive moves would be nice. I also wish mons had more signature moves, but that's a minor gripe.

>>723565954
>Also SV locks legendary behind DLC.
So like TS, except that in Pokemon you can just trade for them?

>>723574752
what digimon is locked behind dlc? I got TS normal edition

>>723570548
those are your opinions dude, it has nothing to do with Bamco showing whether or not they give a shit about fans
They're not even really Adventure pandering anymore, that shit died down after Colon

>>723542120
looks like Oblivion (2006)

>>723575227
X Royal Knights
Omegamon Alters
Parallelmon
Ukkomon
Banchos
etc

>>723575227
They locked the black Agumon and black Gabumon behind DLC. I think you can still get their digivolutions, but not them (from what I read online).

>>723575274
>that shit died down after Colon
NTA but clearly fucking not, they literally had an 02 movie, like, what last year?
They had a TCG collectors box.
There are moncolle figures next year and statues this year
Colon itself was adventure wanking and they crossed it over with v-tamer

You think nit ended but that's because you're a fucking digicasual who doesn't care about anything beyond the game and anime.

>>723575227
The 15 dlc mon and and black Agumon and gabumon

>>723576495
that's false only costumes are locked

>>723574286
awwww so you don't wanna plap Gatomon because she's a champion instead of a rookie?