Thread 723542507

Whiterun is the economic heart of Skyrim.

carlotta's stall carries the economy

>>723542507 (OP)
THIS is whiterun. Not your tranny shit

>>723542507 (OP)
>no brothel for the soldiers or rich merchants
>only like 3 traders that have enough gold to trade a single decent item each
Good thing mods can fix everything.

>>723542654
why are graphics mods considered tranny shit?

>>723542718
I could never find a set of mods that made skyrim good.

>>723542654
Actually that's clearly Weißlauf

truly a bustling metropolis made by the small indie studio bethesda. i.... thank you...

>>723542654
THIS is the hold blessed by Kyne, mother of all nords? EW!

>>723542880
Cloud District... HOME

>>723542936
That's not the Cloud District.
The Cloud District has the Jarl's house. And nothing else. That's considered a district.

>>723542898
People like you are retarded. The city is located in a Tundra and blessed by a holy tree. Trees are rare and unique in Tundras.

>>723542880
>make city to scale
>now 80% of buildings and npcs are non-interactible backdrop slop
>have to walk though this over and over just wasting time

Condensed design like this is actually good, every house is enterable, ever NPC is named and has a place and schedule. Fuck copy paste soulless cities that just waste time.

>>723543127
I want my Daggefall city with hundred empty houses and NPCs who are say nothing.

>>723543180
>I literally want to waste time instead of actually playing the game
Brutally kys faggot

>>723543127
but there are plenty of uninteresting npcs and places in whiterun. i cant recall literally doing anything significant in these parts of the city. even then, the major parts of the city like the market area and the companions was boring and lame as fuck.

>>723542507 (OP)
no thats solitude

>>723543180
go play starfield
todd made it just for you

>>723542507 (OP)
Bethesda was just lucky that they were the only western 3rd party developer popular before the invention of smart phones. Normies would read what nerds of the previous era would say about the company. I also blame shit like the todd howard memes. /v/ completely fucked up by memeing bethesda into a position of being some huge insanely talented company. But looking at their games they have never made a competent game. Skyrim came out at the beginning of the smart phone era. I knew gaming died when I saw a post of two hot white girls in dovakin helmets playing skyrim naked. That was when gaming died.

>>723542654
SEELE

>>723543309
my wife lives in the shack to the south i think

>>723543808
>thinking 4chan made Bethesda famous

>>723542783
The same reason blue hair and a pound of whore makeup per square inch is tranny shit.

>>723542880
bethesda games live by being fully interactable, every house is owned by an NPC with his own little story
a novigrad tier city where you couldn't enter 95% of buildings would feel like shit

>>723542507 (OP)
>economic heart
>doesn't even have a harbor compared to Solitude or Windhelm
Economic heart in horseshit maybe.

>>723544296
breadbasket yes

>>723542787
It's never really been in the cards to make a Bethesda game good, they're all fundamentally poorly designed.

>>723542507 (OP)
All they got is some mead and wheat
Hardly worth it no?

>>723543127
>80% of buildings and npcs are non-interactible backdrop slop
there is really nothing wrong with this

>>723542507 (OP)
why don't you suck my economic dick and I'll blow some economy down your stupid throat you fat cunt

>>723544918
Haha this is hella epic, my fellow 4channer XD
Gonna take this and post for my based and redpilled X (formerly Twitter) followers, they're going to KEK and LOL so hard XD

>>723544296
the way they designed the tamriel map is completely retarded. its just a massive round pangea blob

>>723543959
Fundamentierter Bruder

>>723542654
what mods?

>>723543127
>now 80% of buildings and npcs are non-interactible backdrop slop
This is not a problem. Retarded executives are the only ones who think that is a problem.

>>723542654
SOUL
>>723542507 (OP)
soulless

SKYYYYRIIIIIM

>Whiterun
Smol but comfy, probably the first city they made
>Solitude
Way, way too small to be a TES capital. Doesn't even have real sewers or royal guards
>Windhelm
Depressing, some cool buildings and areas, but it's all hidden under a coat of grey-brown bleakness. Lost its arena, too, and some underground shit
>Markarth
Supposed to be a unique 2nd era Nord cliffside city, with a College of the Voice and shit, changed to le Dwemer ruin forsworn shithole
>Riften
Again, small and too few colors, overall okish concept. Ratway is cool. The canals idea should be developed further for some of that Morrowind feel
>Winterhold
I guess it was cut out of the game to make 11.11.11. Bullshit. Should have had a DLC where you rebuild it with magic, tying the mysteries of its magical founding with its magical Collapse, with a little bit of Psijic time stuff
>The rest
Not even worth mentioning.
Very disappointing. Only Morrowind did its province justice, even moreso by leaving the mainland part of it up to the imagination. Same should have been done to Cyrodiil and Skyrim.

>>723542783
they make the game look like mmo slop, zoom zoom

>>723542654
home...

>>723542783
because most visuals mods for Skyrim make the game uglier.

>>723543808
You are such a retarded nigger. Full on congoloid bantu brain on display here.

>>723547905
try noble skyrim

Is Skyrim even bigger than Cyrodil? I remember playing Oblivion and it felt huge, unlike Skyrim.

>>723542654
>>723542880
>>723542936
based

>>723547743
Morrowind sucked. Like genuinely worse than arena.

i sometimes think what skyrim would be if we had todays technology back then, and it had bit more dev time

>>723547950
>We mod just because we can.
It's horrible. Look at all these ugly textures. No sense for overall picture.

>>723547993
>skyrim 2011
>diagonal road looks like shitty squares
>oblivion 2006
>if I turn the camera 45 degrees and pretend a straight road is diagonal, it looks better!
Why are oblivionfags obsessed with claiming their game and its levelling system isn't absolute shit?

>>723548398
ive looked at that gates to sovngarde mod collection and that one looks pretty nice. no garish coomer shit or anything. havent played it though because i cba with buying nexus premium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txSqFuqvxRY

>>723548534
It's again too much. No coherent style.

>>723542507 (OP)
Skyrim is still better than oblivion remastered

>>723548527
Because the Remake showed most people that Oblivion is still the weakest game of the modern three TES games.

>>723542654
SOVL
>>723542507 (OP)
soulless
Vanilla Skyrim has unironically more soul than whatever ultra modded shit that makes everything shiny and fancy

>>723548893
>SOVL
It's the OG 2011 version without mods.

>>723548931
i am not interesting in playing with indian poop, sorry.

>>723548534
>riverwood is now a desert
Dropped, surprised a modder like this would stray so far from vanilla look
>>723548724
That's the problem with texture mods, they just slap a photorealistic texture on a cube and pretend it's an improvement

>>723548986
>riverwood is now a desert
where in the trailer does it show that?

>>723549159
this is a desert? what are you on about? just because its no longer a cobblestone road or something?

I've recently downloaded the aurora modlist, which is a visual remaster of skyrim with all the best textures, weather, illumination, ENB everything patched ready to play. and it made me realize that modding skyrim graphics is putting lipstick on a pig: the moment you press W the illusion dies, you're in 2011 again. Better to just keep it simple and actually play the game imo

>>723548724
I feel like with Skyrim mods people often just want replace stuff just for the fuck of it.

>>723549328
makes sense. skyrim sucks and has an awful style.

>>723549280
This is 2011 Riverwood without mods.

Why has Bethesda just left the franchise to rot? At least license it out more, I need a nuDoom style Pelinal game.

>>723542787
Just install a modlist and live with it.

>>723549373
home....

>>723549373
i know, but the new one is not a desert. i think you might be retarded, no offense. i looked up some gameplay of someone playing the mod and it looks good to me. much better than skyrims awful muddy style.
https://youtu.be/7Dz6hn9K_PI?si=KSo8g9GMn4qfe2L0&t=245

>>723543808
Show picture, I was looking for a fap

Has anyone tried Classic weathers redone: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/136036
Seems like it really brings the 2011 style to SE but i'm already heavily invested in Obsidian in my current mod list.

>>723549328
You see that with animation replacers, I've never seen one better than vanilla

>>723549738
What about adding animations on top of vanilla? I really like the Conditional idles mods, feels like it breathes more life into npcs and the player character

>>723542507 (OP)
Post your modlists faggots

Best Restoration teacher in the game is in the first town you go to

>>723549831
These are my favorite kind of mods as someone who just play the sims with skyrim, but I was talking about animation quality, I assume the og animations are mocapped so modded animations always look robotic compared to them

>>723542507 (OP)
Whats the population

The issue is not the mods themselves but by how people use them. They try to turn Skyrim into something it isn't instead of trying to keep as much of the vanilla feel as possible while improving upon it.

>>723549078
>>723549280
>>723549501
more like gate to elsweyr

>>723542507 (OP)
>modslop
shart

Games should do the dragon's dogma thing. 1 main city with a bunch of small irrelevant villages beholden to the city. It's far less jarring to visit gran soren than whiterun, even if as discussed ITT most of the buildings are inert scenery

>>723550203
>The issue
>how people use mods
How the fuck is that an "issue?" Do they forcibly install mods on your copy of the game?

>>723550337
>Do they forcibly install mods on your copy of the game?
arthmoor would like to

>>723550097
I agree with you to an extent but i really like some of the animation mods that Veroveli has put out. Especially the Leviathan greatsword low stance:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/115138?tab=images
Makes the weapon feel heavier and doesn't look robotic to me.

>>723542783
Contextually the hold of Whiterun is a flat tundra plain. OP's picture and many Whiterun mods seemingly forego this information and turn Whiterun into a dense forest with fully matured pine trees.
You can probably answer your question by finding some subtext in this post about denying nature/design/sense in favour of unnatural aesthetics.

>>723550260
i mean, if you dont like that they made it look more like an actual scandinavian village with a proper climate then you can always disable whatever riverwood mod makes it look like that and replace it with something else you like. i think americans just are retarded and dont know what places like norway can look like
t. norwegian

>>723550337
No, it's not an issue for me, i'm just saying that when posters say "modded skyrim looks worse than vanilla" they usually provide screenshots like >>723542507 (OP) where there seems to be a mindset of more mods = prettier. For example, they add a bunch of trees in whiterun where there clearly shouldn't be any trees.
If a modded game follows the vanilla art directions more closely it usually turns out better.

>>723543127
The cities in oblivion are massive compared to Skyrim and al the buildings are enterable I think.

>>723550575
you should know by now that /v/irgins dont know what they are actually in control of the buttons they press and can download any mod more tailored to what they want.

>>723550621
the cities in fucking morrowind are bigger and more cohesive in design than oblivion and skyrim and thats a game from 2002 made on a shoestring budget

>>723543127
80% of the buildings and npcs are already backdrop slop with nothing to them

>>723543127
Except the cities in skyrim are smaller than the ones in morrowind.

>>723550373
>some youtuber makes a video about usleep
>every skyrim thread suddenly has an influx of people who bring up arthmoor out of the blue
I get it, you watched the video, you can go discuss it in the youtube comments. This drama has been milked dry by the community years ago, there's literally no discussion left to be had.

>>723550621
This is true. The NPC schedules we're also more detailed. I remember me looking for Quill-Weave during my last playthrough of Oblivion without being able to find her in Anvil. Turns out she goes all the way to Chorrol once a month to visit her friend who's also an author. I know it's a small detail but kind of blew my mind.

>>723543309
Down the bottom is where I hide the bodies.

>>723550810
kys fartmoor

>>723544608
>how much for some fun with your armoured friend?

>>723543127
and 80% of those npcs and houses are completely unimportant with nothing to say. excusable in morrowind, not in skyrim made with 50 gorillion dollar budget. also, ive noticed that skyrim cities and towns almost never have super unique tilesets relating to factions unlike morrowind that has imperial, redoran, hlaalu, telvanni, tribunal temple, ashlander, etc.

>>723550878
You're a tretiary trying to fit it by mentioning the "hip" thing everybody knows about, but what you don't know is that this drama is probably half as old as you are.

>>723550260
I'm playing through that collection right now, I get what you mean and it took me a while to adjust to the dirt roads rather than the cobblestone in vanilla.
But all of that is just because of Northern Roads. If you don't want it you can just disable it.
Riverwood kind of is a little shithole town in the mountains anyway, it wouldn't have worn cobblestone roads through it logistically.

>>723551030
kys fartmoor

>>723550810
>schizo has a melty over literally a single mention of that faggot in the whole thread
grim shit

>>723548931
Yes that's what I meant

>>723543127
a game really has to be perfect for you to like it
you just can't concede that skyrim has shit towns

>>723551082
>write two sentences
>SCHIZO MELTY
Grim shit indeed.

>>723542507 (OP)
What retard designed this

>>723544296
Whiterun is centrally located and in a relatively hospitable climate. The only part of skyrim that isn't surrounded by mountain is its freezing arctic northern coast. It makes sense that every town just trades by caravan with whiterun since most traders can reach it without dying horribly.

>>723542654
TRUTH NUKE

>>723550429
>scandinavia
It's fucking nord kingdom of Nordrim. They can have cobbled roads because they're not poor peasants but the birthplace of the empire. Scandinavia is fine, don't get me wrong, but I'm just really tired of "they're based on us, we don't look like that" when stuff isn't a 100% replica and ISN'T meant to be.

>>723550782
>>723543127
see
>>723550696

THIS is a truth nuke. retard

What is the recommended mod list these days? I've heard good things about CSVO since it's only visual and has PBR textures, but i've also heard good things about Gate To Sovngarde from a roleplay and immersion perspective. What do you guys use?

>>723547964
it's the opposite for me, Skyrim breaks up sightlines to make the map feel bigger

>>723547964
>>723551523
I agree that Cyrodiil felt larger than Skyrim and i believe it is. Pic related

>>723542654
>t. No mods

>>723550696
And the NPCs stand around all day doing jack shit, it's even more copy-pasted and the entire city is obscured by a fog.

>>723542787
Its sometbing you have to do yourself. Also, a lot of them arent just plu and play, they take a bit of manual tweaking to get right

>>723543127
The engine can handle it no problem
Skyrim is held back by consoleslop

>>723550838
I honestly don't mind that being simplified. Less than 1% of people notice stuff like that. Compare it to Call of Pripyat where they had a-life instead of radiant AI (same thing) but you could join in on someone going to hunt artifacts as a means of fast travel. It made it into a gameplay thing rather than window dressing.

>>723551054
>Riverwood kind of is a little shithole town in the mountains
It is Whiterun Hold's main source of lumber.

>>723544110
Thankfully modders kept that in mind when fixing the cities

>>723551949
What am I looking at here? Why are there morrrowind wals in skyrim? Which part is the cloud district?

>>723551949
>>723552075
>Rapes your FPS
Even those large towns in Tamriel Rebuilt still rape your FPS on modern systems.

>>723542880
I heckin' love the hustle and bustle of the big city!!

>>723552160
Those are just slightly bleached Whiterun walls

>>723552170
Large towns in TR rape FPS because they never included proper culling into the engine which means the entire town is rendered like in Pokemon Zaza. At least know what you're talking about.

>>723551993
>I honestly don't mind that being simplified. Less than 1% of people notice stuff like that.
Yeah, that's true but when it does happen it makes the world feel much more alive. I like the idea of NPCs having friends, travelling to other cities, eating dinner, having a hobby or visiting chapels and inns. I feel like there were a lot of quests in Oblivion (Especially in the DB questline) where the npcs had schedules which you had to account for to plan when to strike, whereas in Skyrim that isn't really the case for a lot of NPCs.

>>723552372
>Large towns in TR rape FPS because [shit no one cares about]
The why does not matter, they rape your FPS. Large city overhaul mods in every TES game rapes your FPS.

>>723552160
I believe it's the mod Capital Whiterun Expansion. It adds a bunch of houses, npcs and two new districts to Whiterun. I tried it in my last playthrough and the quality is sort of mixed.

>>723547993
Don't forget poly count went backwards. Oblivion was 3800

>>723549738
Then you arent looking at the right ones
Malignis animations are well done

>>723550326
Enderal did that and it was great. First time I went to Ark, I was blown away by thr fact that they made that in skyrim

>>723550420
Well in game its more of a small valley, so I fill it full of trees and I like it like that

>>723549159
Left looks like Unreal 5 slop.

>>723550810
Hi Artmoor

>>723550973
Skyrim was made by the people who also started saying race isn't real and immigrants are good. The idea of segregating cities other than to make a comparison to ICE would have been too far

>>723552170
Not on my machine with enb

>>723552514
Understanding the why lets you fix it. Never had problems with FPS when having expanded towns in Skyrim. For Morrowind, there's OpenMW which might eventually get a big boy rendering fixup so that when TR finally releases in full they'll have more performance.

>>723550326
You can read tertiaries shitting on Witcher 3 city to see that no, they don't want that. They want towns smaller than villages so that "every NPC feels unique" despite guards having generic dialogue and there being numerous NPCs who are literal walking memes with "UnIqUe DiAlOgUe".

>>723553179
>immigrants are good
Is this why they made all argonians thieves and all dunmer lazy entitled fucks?

Marie Rose status?

>>723553179
having all these irrelevant thoughts in your head when playing games must be exhausting

>>723553426
Todd is canonically racist and transphobic, and I'm yet to see him respecting women

>>723542783
>Try to change something from the Creator's original intent to something hideous and unnatural looking.
Hmmmm.

>>723542880
2bh it feels plenty big while you're in it. Running from the entrance to the palace is tedious enough.

>>723544068
All US culture, and therefore global culture, is shaped by 4channel. It's silly to deny it. Politicians constantly complain about us, tv shows whine about us. We really do run this shit.

>>723552585
How can Skyrim's faces ever hope to compete with high polygon potato faces from Oblivion?

>>723554348
>buy house
>repaint the family room
>I am now trans
xisters... not like this...

>>723543127
uhhh your cheydinhall?

>skyrim realistic overhaul
>dyndolod
only graphical mods needed

>>723543808
The Morrowind-Skyrim period worked well for Bethesda because they were really one of the few companies making open world games at the time. And unlike other open-worlds, you could interact, talk to anybody, go anywhere, and carry out another life. /v/ likes to forget that at one time Bethesda's games were unique, and they didn't have to be graphically or mechanically the best in the market. The scope of their games gave off the illusion that the trade off in downgrades in other areas allowed freedom to do more. They predated the advent of open-world Ubi-slop by a hair.

>>723556096
Ubislop legitimately tried to become the new Bethesda. I remember when playing FC 3 or 4 and realising it was just Ass Creed with guns. I had a blast but they really thought they could get away with it for an entire decade with no payback.

>>723542507 (OP)
Why do Winterhold and Solitude feel so much bigger despite being around the same size as Whiterun?

>>723552585
So they cut down on the polygons while making the faces look better. You know that's a positive right?

>>723556891
>winterhold
wtf are you on about, winterhold is literally an open hallway with an inn and 2 houses, it's rorikstead tier

>see pics of community shaders
>it looks enb tier
>download everything
>looks like shit
Is this shit a meme or what

>>723557553
A lot of the bullshots you're seeing are probably all CS plugins + NAT for CS + the full suite of PBR retextures and a reshade on top. And even then the bullshots sometimes look kind of iffy.
CS is a sunk cost fallacy. So much work has been put into it that people want it to be the enb killer, but in reality it's about on par with your average low-tier ENB, if not maybe even a little bit worse.
It has some cool bells and whistles but they don't make up for it being mid.

>>723542654
>all this for a shit game with a shit story
You faggots are retarded. Modded skyrim or not, the game is shit so it doesn't matter if someone really wants to mod it or not

>>723542880
>>723543127
The smart way to do this would been to have had another outer part of whiterun with loads of houses but opening the city gate just jumps you past it to the normal part of Whiterun. Kinda like the Caesar's legion camp in NV where you can see all the tents and encampments but can't actually get to those areas. Maintains the illusion of it being a large city but only gives you access to the center of it.

>>723543180
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEEEEEEEM

>>723542783
That's not a "graphics mod" nigger that's putting a rainforest in the middle of the barren tundra of Whiterun Hold.

>>723557553
just like when you install baseline enb you also need to get some weather/environment lighting mod made for what you just downloaded and a shitload of retextures.

>>723542507 (OP)
>Novigrad is a free city within Redania and is therefore not subject to the rule of that kingdom. It is one of the major ports on the continent and populated by nearly 30,000 inhabitants, making it one of the largest cities in the North.

>>723542654
>Weißlauf

>>723543127
>>723544110
Tamriel Rebuilt Narsis did it

>>723551993
You’re a fucking retard

>>723544110
>every house is owned by an NPC with his own little story
This hasn't really been true since Oblivion, you can't even enter proper dialogue with most Skyrim NPCs and they just repeat the same few lines ad nauseam. The less said about Fallout 4 and Starfield, the better.

>>723543127
>>make forests to scale
>>now 80% of trees are non-interactible backdrop slop
>>have to walk though this over and over just wasting time

>>make mountain to scale
>>now 80% of rocks are non-interactible backdrop slop
>>have to walk though this over and over just wasting time

Cities are a set piece like any other environment. Just have a large city and have most of the activity occur in a very small area.

>>723556096
they are still unique
Bethesda makes real TES and it will still sell

I prayed to Talos today, /v/.

>>723552580
wtf is this?

>>723551949
>Morrowind walls
>Whiterun
I hate modders

>>723551054
this mod is bullshit. Nobody would build a village in a forest. One heavy storm and the trees are crashing the houses.

>>723543127
Nah, Witcher 3 did big cities correctly. Novigrad is a city that FEELS alive like a real city with everything that you need spaced apart perfectly from quest locations to vendors. Bethesda fails at everything

fuck lorkhan

>>723542783
Modders for graphics behave like they're decorating their home. It's static and a perfect environment with no disturbances.
It makes it very unbelievable when you have the main entrance of the "economic heart" and things like flowers can just sprawl on the middle of the road and somehow survive until they bloom.
It's so unnatural that it takes me out of the immersion.

>>723550926
It makes me feel better knowing people are degenerated enough to get off of nigger coded gipsy animals that can't even form a proper sentence.

>>723552585
>more triangles is good, actually

>>723557894
Well said, enb is goat

post screenshots

why does the biggest "city" in an entire province have just a couple dozen people living inside the walls?

guys, no one is saying we need real sized, real scale cities in fantasy fiction games.
What we're saying is you need to actually immerse the player and make them feel as if they're in a place that could be real. It doesn't mean we need 1000 buildings that are all enterable and explorable, it means we need more than just a dozen houses, even if some of them are just there for visuals and immersion. Not every single area needs to be enterable or explorable, but I should be at least able to make it feel like I'm part of a real world.

>>723554513
i know this is a common cope by people trying to give meaning to all the time they've wasted on this website but this couldn't be further from the truth

4chan is a glowie playground and you're just another sheep being led by third parties, just like the neocon boomers on facebook and the turbo liberals on reddit--you're not special

>>723542718
>no brothel for the soldiers or rich merchants
that's why you make and play a female character if you understand

>>723542783
only trannies like trees

>>723561931
>praying to a mortal
cringe

>>723559248
Or just break the city up like they did with Ark in Enderal, each zone is about the size of Whiterun

>>723542880
People who don't understand why this was good design decision are genuine retards. The granularity of Skyrim is its whole appeal.
It's literally what made it (and Elder Scrolls in general) so massively popular. Being able to go into every single house and pick a fork off the table is the whole magic of these games. The corollary to that is that everything has to be more limited in scope. Had they gone large but generic, we wouldn't still be talking about this game 15 years after it's release like we're doing right now.

Thoughts on Skyre?
Because I got murked in Nchaund-zel on adept.

>>723561931
I pray the Jesus and convert the citizens of tamriel to Christianity

>>723566105
Praying to Jesus is the equivalent to bowing down to Thalmor rules. Fuck Jews. Fuck Thalmors.

>ask for sex from big lizard lady
>immediately sits on my face
Goty forever.

Isn't whiterun located in a tundra? I didnt think tundras could support so many trees.

>>723542654
City overhauls that just spam tons of foliage and extra crates/barrels everywhere are a disgrace.

>>723569820
Jk's outskirts are nice.

>>723563058
>>It makes me feel better knowing people are degenerated enough to get off of nigger coded gipsy animals that can't even form a proper sentence.
that's not a Dunmer

>>723563685
Any tips to get such image clarity? Your Skyrim looks so sharp. I'm guessing no ENB?

>>723570468
That's Oblivion Remastered

>>723542507 (OP)
Home of the Oberjüdenscheißführer himself.

>>723543127
Sadly modern AAA expectations doesn't support Bethesda classic world design like this. Publishers and shareholders want to see more things on screen at once like a moooovie, they don't care if each NPC has a schedule, name, story and inventory. Notice how Starfield started moving away from this formula and look how that turned out. The next elder scrolls will be even worse most likely until it's no longer recognizable as a bethesda title and just another shitty RPG where you can't interact with anything at all.

>>723565304
No excuses now, the game is from two generations ago they CAN achieve a larger version of that same design

>>723542507 (OP)
Whiterun is so incredibly busy at all times that Nazeem assumes you've never visited the most prominent structure in town, 15 yards away from where he spends most of his day.

>>723542783
Because people are too autistically anal to enjoy anything but what the devs had intended

>>723563213
Unironically yes

>>723542507 (OP)
>>723542654
samefag

>>723543127
Night City is a million times better than Skyrim's towns.

>>723564117
Ive said this a few times in this thread already, but the cities should have been built like Ark. Hell the imperial city in oblivion was larger, 97 buildings.

97 (imperial city) vs 110 (markarth, whiterun, solitude, riften combibed.)

>>723571753
Think about this comment when you buy your next GPU.

>>723564361
Why would glories play here? Oh, because we dominate internet culture to the point where it bleeds into real life

>>723565304
Avg 20k players on steam. I have played modded skyrom almost exclusively for the past 3 years

>>723565304
I don't think most people would want Daggerfall cities, but Morrowind and Oblivion had bigger cities of Skyrim quality.

>>723564117
Thanks.

>>723566380
I see you know nothing about Christianity other than r/atheism

>>723571870
Do the garbage vanilla textures on everything except your loli not bother you? Its such a glaring issue to have a highly detailed character, and then that background

>>723542654
Come home, Nord man.

>>723572498
None of the textures are vanilla, are you ok?

>>723543127
Even making it a district or two bigger is enough to make cities feel big

>>723563685
Lovely. Man how I wish we could've seen a rebuilt stone Winterhold

tempted to reinstall just to play through a few modded quests
i hear some people suggest vigilant and all the other mods from that dev

>>723550429
>AI sloppa can't into gravity
many such cases. sad!

But why no let Khajit in?

>>723574576
Why does she have a penis?

>>723571061
Not without AI really. The cost of the labor required to make all of that hasn't gone down otherwise.

>>723574576
>not barbed
Lore inaccurate Khajiiti futacock, door's closed

>>723574778
>implying bethesda's shitty engine is any more complex than it was in 2011

>>723543127
I'm okay with that though. I value atmosphere above all else.

>>723543180
I want this as well

>>723542783
tranny is a word meaning "thing i dont like" on 4chan

>>723574576
watch it anon, you've got a dangling participle

>>723542507 (OP)
why is it a lush forest
whiterun is in a tundra

>>723544296
not even a plausible river city like the other holds have.

>>723542507 (OP)
Created a Redguard and made him run in the city. Call that Blackrun!
Heyo!

>>723571753
Graphics cattle like you needs to he culled

>>723570468
I play in 1440p upscaled with some sharpening added through Community shaders. People keep saying ENB is better graphically but it doesn't keep the feeling of Skyrim as well and tends to blur and bloom too much in my opinion.

>>723542507 (OP)
whiterun if it was designed by floridian city planners

>>723575541
What? We're talking about the human labor needed to create larger towns.

>>723577991
Looks like Far Cry 5... in a negative way.

>>723577356
whats wrong with the fur lmao

>>723552585
>More tris for worse visuals is good
Are you using your GPU to heat your room or something

>>723572602
They make higher res ones, I couldn't tell

>>723574019
Thats a professional camera with color adjustments.... AI is the worst thing to happen, not because of it, but because of the responses to it

>>723574778
It happened before... it happened before AI was a thing. Just because you cant work without AI, doesn't mean the rest of us cant

finally a thread without /tesg/ trannies

>>723577248
>t. No GPU
The anti visuals crowd is largely a group that is mostly excluded by the high demand of hardware

>>723563304
just realized i nuked my SE screenshot folder after i uninstalled Skyrim
prob because it was just porn

>>723581152
In those games it really one or two towns or cities like Skyrim has like a dozen with 4 of them being sizeable. Not everyone is Rockstar who have and are willing to sink a billion dollars into their game.

>>723542507 (OP)
That's like saying any middle city in the US is the heart of Americas economy. Unless bullet trains or airplane can carry as much as container ships that will never be the case.

Skyrim economic heart is solitude.

>>723552170
Yeah because it has none of the modern optimizations that are standard. Old ebonheart has a ridiculous amount of draw calls, all the lighting is CPU driven and there are no occlusion planes.

SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE ALTMER

>>723577991
Thats nice. What trees?

>>723578692
What's wrong with it? You sound like a woman

>>723543309
20. Easiest place to go if you get infected by vampire.

>>723578841
No, but if it can operate at 80c and im only using 70c, I need to increase the usage. I utilize all the GPU

>>723581534
You dont need to do that. Once again, oblivion had larger towns and so did morrowind.

You dont need AI, just a competent team. Modders can do it for free and thats usually a solo guy.

Enderal did it, skyblivion is doing it, and so is the skywind team.

>>723552170
Isnt that a volunteer group that makes things for fun all while not having access to the source code?

>>723585380
Those games barely have larger towns than Skyrim. Skyrim has more named npcs than Oblivion. Morrowind has double the amount of Skyrim but most of the dialogue is text only.

>>723585794
most of the dialogue text is the exact same
morrowind isn't nearly as deep as people who pretend they played it when they watched video essays presenting a warped vision of it present it as

skyrim without the vomit filter is good enough imo

>>723543808
>I knew gaming died when I saw a post of two hot white girls in dovakin helmets playing skyrim naked.
Share it so we also know that gaming died.

>>723550810
>out of the blue
this is a thread about skyrim and skyrim mods
and i replied to a post talking about forcing unwanted mods into players games
its not "out of the blue".

>>723542507 (OP)
I thought dragonsreach was the traditional capital of Skyrim, after Windhelm and before Solitude. Solitude, Riften, and Windhelm seem way more economically productive. Even Markarth and Dawnstar seem to be pumping out silver and iron. I guess Whiterun has a significant amount of agriculture and their little meadery too, but I don't see it as particularly prosperous relative to the rest of the holds aside from Winterhold and Morthal obviously.

what do you think of my modded skyrim /v/

https://youtu.be/_tkBzlYFiiU

>>723542507 (OP)
soul
>>723542654
souless

whiterun is canonically a rainforest

>>723544608
>Go to Khajit with no coin
>Still has wares
Fucked up.

>>723542570
stool*

>>723559248
There is a handful of buildings outside of Whiterun already but nobody really cares about them because they are mostly farmsteads. I think just closing it up a little bit, maybe adding a barracks outside of dragonsreach, vigilant's temple, a few other random productive buildings, and like some more homes. But overall the scale is fine in my opinion and people already bitch about loading screens in Bethesda games.

>>723588370
Slop.
Also checked your VTMB vid and literally puked blood.
You have absolute shit taste when it comes to modding.

>>723588743
which one

brownrun... home...

>>723588975
lmao what is that?

>>723588803
This one, it's some brazilian GTA SA shit and I'd slap you in the face if we ever met IRL.

>>723589581
This cool down is annoying

>>723589257
Oh, you're the same person from last time with the screenshots.

I’d love it if you could show me what your tastes are and what type of Skyrim you like(a video that you like would be cool) or what exacta you didn't like about the video would be helpful.


Show me a screenshot of VTMB that’s ideal to you so I can get a better understanding of what people like and dislike.

>>723589257
this is my latest skyrim video you can judge my progress with this

https://youtu.be/Jf6ezsY3ras

>>723589708
I'm replying to you for the first time.

>>723589751
Oh no, I got hit with a 4 minute cool down

I like the painterly aesthetic verdrenna + picturesque has going, but I just wish verdrenna didn't push the pissfilter so hard during sunny days.
>>723589818
uh oh, looks like someone forgot to precache their grass

>>723542507 (OP)
It was probably just me buying buying all the ingredients to craft swords and then selling them for less than what the material cost me just so I can level up my crafting skill.

What an absolute shit of a game.

>>723589971
Im just not doing it lol

>>723590074
>economies of scale

last pic

>>723590439
I can tell

>>723590074
>tries to break game
>fails
>calls it shit
There are numerous exploits, or just player.additem f 10000 lol

>>723542880
They could've put a few more houses here

>>723543127
The interiors are instanced so there's not really a technical limitation, they could all be enterable. It's just a matter of human authored content vs proc gen / ai workflows

>>723547743
>Supposed to be a unique 2nd era Nord cliffside city, with a College of the Voice and shit, changed to le Dwemer ruin forsworn shithole
My headcanon is that Markarth Side was destroyed during the Oblivion Crisis and the Markarth we see in game is just the Dwemer ruins everyone moved into

>>723543127
Detail doesn't always need explanation, but it needs to exist

>>723543309
>20
Go there at the start of the game either for an Amulet of Arkay or some gold.
>19
Steal several good healing potions, Shrine of Mara, people you can abuse to level alteration/restoration.
>6
You visit this bitch *once* throughout the entire game, after you get a token from the bitch at the Thief's Guild.

big butts

>>723590074
>he doesn't know
hit up Halted Stream Camp nearby, grab the transmutation tome and learn it, transmute all the iron from that mine into gold then make jewelry until you hit 30 smithing to learn dwarven smithing and melt all the scrap in the reach for easy smithmaxxing.
or just skip straight to Markarth and empty out Kolskeggr and Cidhna mines to make jewelry to 30 smithing that way

>>723542654
I can't put my finger on it but something about the colors of this look wrong. What is it? Black crush?

i have 500 hours in Skyrim and ive only ever finished the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood main quests

>>723543127
Based and truthpilled. I'm playing BG3 for the first time right now and while I've been having a lot of fun, Act 3 is showing how annoying this is. Tons of NPCs and buildings are basically irrelevant. NPCs in particular are annoying because there are like a gorillion named NPCs wandering around the city that can be interacted with. 99% of them are just fluff that don't even have any dialog options, but some of them just so happen to have sidequests and shit, so you're incentivized to talk to everyone, on the small chance they might be tied to content.

This is another reason why dense (and by dense, I mean if an enterable building / npc exists, there's a meaningful reason they exist) hubs are superior to open world RPGs. Outside of a couple games, give me KOTOR/Deus Ex over Skyrim anyday.

>>723542507 (OP)
I think depth of field SUCKS