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Anonymous No.723567025 [Report] >>723567608 >>723570421 >>723572698 >>723572865 >>723574207 >>723574682 >>723574819 >>723577272 >>723577464 >>723578614 >>723579708 >>723581294 >>723581996 >>723583301 >>723584879 >>723585003 >>723587264
Give it to me straight, /v/. Are there any major issues with Pokémon ZA aside from day one DLC and graphics?
Anonymous No.723567073 [Report] >>723586863
Use the catalog view and /vp/ to see how glitchy and bugged it is.
Anonymous No.723567181 [Report]
Its a nintendork game
Anonymous No.723567314 [Report] >>723567741
I'm trying to play it but it's so railroaded, boring and full of cutscenes after cutscenes that i don't think i will be able to keep going. No, i didn't boughted it.
Anonymous No.723567402 [Report]
There have been a thousand criticisms of the game posted here since launch. If you won't pay attention, I'm not doing your homework for you.
Anonymous No.723567608 [Report] >>723568776
>>723567025 (OP)
>There is no cool vistas
>There is no factions
>There is no advertised Z-A rank ladder
>There is no water traversing with pokemon
>There is no flying traversing with pokemon
>There is no co-op mode
>There is no mom
Anonymous No.723567741 [Report]
>>723567314
After it gets to the look Bureau all the rails come off and you can go anywhere and do whatever you want. It's stupid that it takes that long, but hey that's gamefreak for you.

The fact that Bandai still can't make a better digimon game than this is sad.
Anonymous No.723568776 [Report]
>>723567608
>There is no flying traversing with pokemon
yer wrong bout that one
Anonymous No.723570421 [Report] >>723571935
>>723567025 (OP)
Everything that made PLA good it's absent from this game, but hey, you can battle people now
Anonymous No.723571935 [Report] >>723572193
>>723570421
Real time combat elements are absent from PLA?
Anonymous No.723572193 [Report]
>>723571935
PLA is a turn based game with the turn order shown to you determined by speed values, ZA turns are based on user input and specific move cooldown
Anonymous No.723572698 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
pfffffft hahaha you're considering buying it
Anonymous No.723572865 [Report] >>723574093
>>723567025 (OP)
The amount of people I saw buying the Switch 2 bundle yesterday was crazy. This game will DOMINATE the holiday season.
Anonymous No.723573023 [Report] >>723573341 >>723574190
The graphics being bad is something that isn't discussed properly, its easy to make fun out of flat PS1-era textures but the way the overworld does not have any basic lighting effects or casts shadows makes the characters and pokemon look extremely out of place with the overall game.
Even SV and SS with their nintendo 64 textures did not make pokemon look out of place, this shit's the same shit that Palworld suffers from where the pokemon actively clash with the environment (where palworld looks like a dumb generic unreal engine asset flip, LZA looks like a dumb generic unity asset flip).
To say less that the gameplay is Xenoblade but somehow more boring is just making me question what do you look in Pokemon that makes you say ''i should buy that'', like why do you want to consider buying a pokemon game these days?
Anonymous No.723573341 [Report] >>723573514
>>723573023
It's pokemon. It's been grandfathered in. All the moms will buy it for their children and all the pokefuckers will buy it because of sunk cost.
I don't think there's anything Gamefreak could do to sully the Pokemon franchise at this point.
Anonymous No.723573514 [Report] >>723573639
>>723573341
I somehow feel like i can't agree with you, given the price of the switch 2 and its games, i highly doubt people would be willing to spend THAT much money when Roblox is free and has plenty of pokemon fangames, it'd be more logical for a mom to buy her kid some robux than a switch 2.
Anonymous No.723573639 [Report] >>723574280
>>723573514
The game is on Switch 1 too.
By the time the next iteration of Pokemon comes around, there will already be a healthy Switch 2 userbase as well, but they might make it cross-gen again.
Anonymous No.723574093 [Report] >>723585942
>>723572865
Prime 4 will mog it and that is sure to make heads roll
Anonymous No.723574190 [Report] >>723574337 >>723574437 >>723582761 >>723585713 >>723586559
>>723573023
Pokemon has never about graphics you fucking mentally ill retard. It's about the battle mechanics and vast bestiarium.

You're exactly the kind of brain dead retard who would shit himself in class when he saw graphics for SNES jrpgs and fucking foam at the that the graphics weren't as good as Mortal Kombat.

Thankfully worthless morons like you are relegated to cartoon shithole websites like 4troon and your screeching is heard by nobody in the real world.

You'll now spend the next 4 months seething as it dominates the charts.
Anonymous No.723574207 [Report] >>723580824 >>723586501
>>723567025 (OP)
You're willingly ignoring them at this point.
Anonymous No.723574280 [Report]
>>723573639
I mean the 70 dollars price for LZA is still there, but the main point is that it feels like the diehard pokefag is the one that'll outnumber parents with kids at least 5:1, plus it's 2025, we do not live in a society with evangelist moms buying their kids shit they don't know about, current mothers could've grown up with Pokemon too so unless they too are diehard pokemon fans or are the ''i play these games too my son!'' type of mom, i am still going to assume that pokemon's only selling because the diehard fans are numerous.
Anonymous No.723574337 [Report]
>>723574190
Based and truth-pilled
Anonymous No.723574437 [Report] >>723574607
>>723574190
>Pokemon has never about graphics
It does not mean pokemon was also never about integrity. Look at every pokemon game prior to LZA, shit looked cohesive in spite of the background textures taken straight out of mario 64, LZA looks unpolished to a level lower than ''nintendo hire this man!!'' creators, and the fact you only care about sales and not integrity is why every normal human being is curretnly making fun out of pokemon.
Anonymous No.723574607 [Report] >>723578481 >>723585092
>>723574437
The game has been 8/10 reviews across the board son.

The general consensus is that it's a good game.

Now how much are you going to shit yourself?
Anonymous No.723574682 [Report] >>723576320
>>723567025 (OP)
There no day one dlc
Anonymous No.723574819 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
The french
Also they should not have tied masuda to the basement. They should have let him cook and placed JurrassicPokePark in Germany.
Anonymous No.723574886 [Report]
still mad there is no abilities especially when Mega evo has unique ones, now the combat is just spam the strongest move then cooldown
Anonymous No.723576320 [Report] >>723576752 >>723577746
>>723574682
>Tendies caught lying again
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/pokemon-legends-z-a-mega-dimension-dlc-70070000030771-switch/
Anonymous No.723576752 [Report] >>723577017
>>723576320
>Purchase early to receive a Luxurious Poké Ball Set as an early purchase bonus
lol
Anonymous No.723577017 [Report] >>723577647
>>723576752
>Actually, the DLC is not even finished, this is a digital preorder.
>This is better.
Anonymous No.723577272 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
There's no day 1 DLC.
Anonymous No.723577464 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
It felt like it took four hours for the tutorials to end, but PLA was the same way. It's very jarring, though, because IIRC SV turned you loose pretty early.

The story and characters are not very compelling, but you have no choice but to sit through interminable dialogue scenes.

Also, the presentation (not just the graphics) is very, very bad. Most of the animation is lazy, and the cutscenes are not directed very well. Example: there's an important story cutscene where a pokemon unexpectedly drags the player character onto a roof. Here's how that is conveyed:
>shot from player character's POV of the pokemon lunging at him
>close-up shot of the player character flinching
>screen goes completely black
>wide shot of character standing alone on a roof
>dialog saying "It pulled you up onto the roof!"
It's unbelievably shit. They could have absolutely just animated the thing dragging you up to the roof, and it would've been cool. The people over at Game Freak were either unable or unwilling to do it, and it's hard to tell which, because both of those possibilities are baffling.

Honestly, I don't even think a flop, or multiple flops, would ultimately help the series at this point, because there's a clear pattern now of the games selling well in spite of how mediocre they are. If the next one flops, I think GF and TPC will try to fix the wrong thing.
Anonymous No.723577647 [Report]
>>723577017
Considering your whole "DAY ONE DLC" (((((argument))))) hinges on the DLC being cut out of from a finished game and sold for $30, then yes, this is better.
Thanks for admitting you've spent the last month lying through yout teeth.
Anonymous No.723577746 [Report]
>>723576320
that's not a dlc, its an expansion
Anonymous No.723578481 [Report]
>>723574607
Nta but half of them lacked clarity on what makes the game fun kind of subjective to even take their opinion to face value since this is /v/ and 4chan so you can't really take them serious that they probably saying it out of arrogance due to consolewarring but in my personal opinion besides that the game looks ass its meh it reminds me a of an old mmo for a laptop or pc where you can cheese an old boss by continuously spamming m1, but besides that
i didn't really think it was extremely terrible just tedious and not really fun while some areas were somewhat laggy idk if it was because the emulator or my pc i have a 3090 the sidequest were little charming but were forgettable the main story is meh the only ones that were memorable were urbain or tuanie the rest of the characters or forgettable the end of the story where you fight the cock cage floette boss its was somewhat good but it seemed so damn short and the first stage was just like the same problem with the gameplay just mashing you're powerful attack

but that's pretty much it besides dolls just to boost up your passive and that the rank gimmick stinks since you have a chance to skip past all of it with the tutorial the catching is okay i liked they made it friendly than the previous titles
Anonymous No.723578614 [Report] >>723578835 >>723579836 >>723586863
>>723567025 (OP)
Needs a serious patch because sometimes you straight up fall through the map
Anonymous No.723578835 [Report] >>723579836 >>723579921
>>723578614
wait this happens or is just a somewhat occurrence if so, they never learned from S/V
which kind of proves it's not really deserving of a score above 70
Anonymous No.723579708 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
Bad gameplay
Bad story
Looks bad (this is not a graphics problem as chrono trigger has MUCH worse graphics and still looks better. This is an art problem.)
Anonymous No.723579836 [Report] >>723580072
>>723578614
>>723578835
stop using emulators
Anonymous No.723579921 [Report] >>723580967
>>723578835
Somewhat occurrence but has happened while the map is loaded. There are some clips on Twitter of the usual map not loading in and people falling into the void.
Anonymous No.723580072 [Report] >>723582147
>>723579836
No fag im not paying 70$s for a shitty pokemon game or a switch 2
Anonymous No.723580225 [Report] >>723580541
What's this about glitches? The only thing I've seen so far resembling some are trainer Pokémon falling off roofs mid battle, but they eventually get teleported back up again.
Anonymous No.723580541 [Report]
>>723580225
some gliches happen somewhat even on a switch 2 but some might happen on a emulator or switch 1 but there's videos on twitch showing the gliches also happen on the switch 2
Anonymous No.723580824 [Report]
>>723574207
kek
Anonymous No.723580967 [Report]
>>723579921
https://x.com/ThatMetroidGuy/status/1979473723934531705
Clip of the latter
Anonymous No.723581294 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
yeah its super good. buy it
Anonymous No.723581620 [Report]
I watched my gf play it last night and it seemed so fucking boring
Pokemon is just a dead IP like Mass Effect
Anonymous No.723581996 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
Ridiculously long railroaded tutorial, just like the 3DS games and Sword/Shield.
New battle system is worse.

Otherwise it's p good.
Anonymous No.723582147 [Report] >>723582624
>>723580072
switch 2 isnt 70 dollars
Anonymous No.723582624 [Report] >>723582752
>>723582147
never said it was, read carefully what i said
Anonymous No.723582752 [Report] >>723583073
>>723582624
then how much is it if you know so much?
Anonymous No.723582761 [Report]
>>723574190
Based
Anonymous No.723583073 [Report]
>>723582752
somewhere between 400-600 or 800 if you're in the uk but im not buying it because it's not really worth it since it now only has 3 exclusive games which I'm not interested in buying I'm good with my pc playing salt sanctuary and older prior consoles
Anonymous No.723583301 [Report] >>723585129
>>723567025 (OP)
As someone who beat the game on emulator, yes.
>Wild zones lack variety, there are no unique wild zone biomes like sewers or building interiors, it's mainly just some sort of gimmick theming plastered around, you may be in a graveyard but nothing about the graveyard is designed around that, its just dressing and all zones are outdoors
>Gameplay is just button mashing with minimal strategy, simple as. When done right this gets disgusting, Talonflame should not be able to flareblitz/bravebird spam back to back.
>The night fights only have like 5 arenas that you have to grind like dailies, but not too early or you'll be overleveled so you will always hit a roadblock if you don't want to be 5 levels higher.
>Tutorials take far too long. The characters are 90% shit, the story is empty and mostly deviod of meaning. There are like 3 good characters while the rest of the game subjects you to the most unlikable characters in the series, fuck Naveen and fuck the streamer. The game doesn't even have a fucking antagonist and the game doesn't even decide to introduce conflict until right at the 90% mark.
Thats not even including the graphics. I just posted a lot but this image says it all really
Anonymous No.723584628 [Report] >>723585076
arceus really was a fluke right? like they accidentally made a good game
Anonymous No.723584773 [Report]
I honestly think the new battle system is a step in the right direction. Everything else is just so fucking shit.
Anonymous No.723584879 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
Your standards for Pokemon games should be through the roof, therefore it is shit.
Anonymous No.723585003 [Report]
>>723567025 (OP)
I genuinely thought the game was gonna make me climb all 26 ranks.... then at somepoint the game just shoots you up to F rank because MUH MEGAS and i felt a lil disappointment after that
Anonymous No.723585076 [Report]
>>723584628
i think they tried really hard
d/p/p remakes had years of hype behind it and with bd/sp coming out as shit as it was i imagine they went all in on PLA
Anonymous No.723585092 [Report] >>723585325
>>723574607
The game is fucking shithouse. No one wants the game to look realistic. What people want is a cohesive art-style with beautiful textures and excellent world design. As you should fucking expect from the most profitable franchise on earth. They literally picked the most corporate anime style they could to appeal to the widest demographic. The games look like utter fucking shit and you have to be a tasteless hack to think that this argument is about “realism” or “graphics”. The games should look fucking excellent, the main fucking draw of the game is collecting cool LOOKING creatures.
Anonymous No.723585129 [Report] >>723585271
>>723583301
>As someone who beat the game on emulator

Playing the inferior dogshit emulator. Ew.
Anonymous No.723585180 [Report]
Pokemon is POTENTIAL-MAN the series. Pokemon fans also legitimately make me detest autistic people.
Anonymous No.723585271 [Report] >>723585390
>>723585129
Like the actual fucking console would make a difference, game looks like ass
Anonymous No.723585325 [Report] >>723585971
>>723585092
Looks pretty good to me and runs at 4K / 60fps on Switch 2 - which seems to beyond most other developers.
Anonymous No.723585390 [Report] >>723585516
>>723585271
>Like the actual fucking console would make a difference

She doesn't know lma0o
Anonymous No.723585516 [Report]
>>723585390
what are you talking about he is right the game still looks like shit even for ai upscale also the glitches still happen the only thing changed is the increase in fps
Anonymous No.723585530 [Report] >>723588314
PLA > Gen 7 when it's good > Gen 9 > PLZA > Gen 7 when it's bad > Gen 6 > Gen 8
Anonymous No.723585589 [Report] >>723585961 >>723585981 >>723586336 >>723587773
How is the exploration and level design? Are there cool distinct areas to find?
Anonymous No.723585713 [Report]
>>723574190
>It's about the battle mechanics and vast bestiarium.
Game Freak cut the vast bestiarium in SWSH and replaced the battle mechanics with Korean MMO-tier "gameplay" in ZA, but retards keep buying it in droves. Clearly it's not about either of those.
Anonymous No.723585942 [Report]
>>723574093
Prime 4 is going to flop to the suprise of no-one after the motorbike debacle
Anonymous No.723585961 [Report]
>>723585589
Not really, no. Everything feels too samey. I wanted to go back to a place that I had visited to trade some items, but since everything looks the same, I had to google it. And I'm liking the game, it is fun, but it shouldn't cost more than 20 bux
Anonymous No.723585971 [Report]
>>723585325
Emma ass is killing me....
Anonymous No.723585981 [Report]
>>723585589
not really most are forgettable besides cemetery but that's still meh
Anonymous No.723586336 [Report]
>>723585589
I like the verticality with the scaffolding and rooftops but everywhere looks the same, yeah. It is exactly what you think you'd get by vastly expanding Lumiose City into its own game from the confusing mess it is in XY.
Anonymous No.723586501 [Report] >>723587143
>>723574207
why do they sóyface at everything?
the game froze, big fucking thing
Anonymous No.723586559 [Report] >>723586795
>>723574190
Yeah it's never been about the graphics everyone knows that's bad.
Or about the gameplay everyone knows it's barely serviceable.
Or raising mons it's just watching their level go up.
Or the adventure, gamefreak has removed adventure and exploration little by little every chance they get.
It's not about the story, it's always juvenile or pacebreaking.
It's about... uh...
Seeing a pokemon and recognizing it.
Anonymous No.723586795 [Report]
>>723586559
Gameplay and raising monsters is why people play
>But I don't like how those are implemented
O.K
Anonymous No.723586863 [Report] >>723587258
>>723567073
Emulation issues.
>>723578614
Listen, I dont defend games, who cares, but I do point out lies. I played it for 10 hours or so and it has been bug free. Most bugs you see online are emulation and that one webm of the game freezing on og hardware? Wow a game freeze! Epic broken game(this has become rather standard these days on all hardware)
Anonymous No.723587113 [Report]
i'll let the paypigs buy the 100 million dollars unity project and then emulate it 5 years down the road when i'm bored enough
Anonymous No.723587143 [Report] >>723588141
>>723586501
the thing its pokemon the people who defend it say it approves but when people actually experience it themselves, they realize that's far from the truth and are tricked by delusional fans that become dirty snake oil salesman's
Anonymous No.723587258 [Report]
>>723586863
not really some were on switch one and switch 2 im pretty sure one of the twitch streams he linked me actually is playing on switch 1 or 2 but i can't really tell
Anonymous No.723587264 [Report] >>723588050
>>723567025 (OP)
half the megas are shit
Anonymous No.723587481 [Report]
>tutorial
>tutorial
>tutorial
Remember when games just let you do shit without forcibly holding your hand for 40% of the game?
Anonymous No.723587773 [Report]
>>723585589
Design good.
Visuals bad.
Anonymous No.723588041 [Report]
>you get three (3) sets of starters
Hoenn niggas when? They have megas too. DLC I suppose.
Anonymous No.723588050 [Report]
>>723587264
the megas are fine (except falinks that shit is retarded
if only they added all of them to be used in the campaign, and also the ones that they put for the dlc that released before the game was even finished...
Anonymous No.723588141 [Report]
>>723587143
Holy fucking esl
Anonymous No.723588314 [Report] >>723590569
>>723585530
you forgot to add shit>> before PLA
Anonymous No.723590569 [Report]
>>723588314
Nah that's where Gen 1-5 go.
Anonymous No.723591541 [Report]
How's the online multiplayer? Is it as bad as SSBU's?