Thread 723573995

>>723573995 (OP)
It could have been the perfect threesome

EZ choice

>>723573995 (OP)
Miranda as bro, Jack as wife.

Jack pegging me

do yall be pumping your peener

>>723573995 (OP)
There's no debate

Both of them have sex with batarians.

>>723575210
t. batarian incel

>>723573995 (OP)
no question

>>723574795
>femshepfags so delusional they have to mod the game because they're bitter jack is straight

>>723575907
You've misinterpreted that webm so hard it's actually hilarious. Hint: look at FemShep's face. Double hint: wonder why you don't get that cutscene during Jack's romance.

>>723573995 (OP)
>ME3 Jack with hair
>goblin that looks like if Yvonne had down syndrome
I choose the suit rat.

>>723576010
yes exactly, the game was modded

>>723576253
Immunocompromised imouto, I...

>>723576514
>he still doesn't get it
Oh well

That scene isn't part of the romance. If you get that, you can't romance Jack.

>>723575737
These blueberrymuffins better have futacocks.

Jack managed to sneak in under the radar right before the whole trans thing started getting all the artificial hate online. Honestly good for they/them.

>>723573995 (OP)
Both are good but I lean more to Miranda

>>723578704
>not even the good Miranda

>>723573995 (OP)
Jack is for paragoning and wife-ing.
Tali for rengade and geth destruction.

Miranada's shitpipe was built to be glazed

>>723578704
Reminder she got JACOB'd

>>723573995 (OP)
>used goods A vs used goods B
Neither

>>723573995 (OP)
I hate women with tattoos, piercing, and shaved head. That being said, Jack is far superior when compared to that other jewish whore.

>>723573995 (OP)
Let these two hate fuck each other. I choose Tali as a femshep

Jack's face model is actually prettier than Yvonne. Look up Candice Neil.

>>723578960
Tali is built for bullying
>Refuse to give her Geth data
>Hand Vetor over to Cerberus
>Reveal her father was a war criminal or just let her be exiled
>If you chose the latter lead her on before picking either Miranda or Jack
>Side with Legion even if you can resolve it peacefully
>Have sex with Miranda right where she works
>Side with the Geth at every opportunity
>Let the Geth wipe out the Quarians and watch her kill herself
Name one other party member in the game whose life you can just absolutely ruin even worse than hers.

>>723576253
sex

Jack with Miranda's hair. Miranda is butt ugly face wise.

>>723573995 (OP)
left has a better face
right has better hair

>>723579773
Wrex and Mordin are up there. For the former you genocide his species too plus actually kill him yourself after he called you brother, for the latter you shoot him in the back and he slowly bleeds out knowing he failed and he'll never undo the mistake and guilt he's carried all his life

>>723579773
I'm renegade and I accept paragon points for any Qussy in need, especially that one on the Citadel who was being accused of stealing a (((Volus))) credit chit.

>>723580003
>SHE STOLE MY CHIT
>Tell him he left it at the shop
>Well...she still could have stolen it
Never met a Volus I liked

>>723579773
I like my boy Legion too much to care for (((Quarians))). The geth acted out in self defense before the Reaper influence.

>>723579996
>can betray Wrex and riddle him with bullets with C-Sec defending you and treating him as a crazy krogan
>can betray Mordin and shoot him in the back after a standstill at gunpoint
>can betray Tali and outright see her commit fucking suicide in front of you
>bonus points: killing the Virmire Survivor during the coup or the dalatrass/Kirrahe's survival being dependent on both ME1 and ME2 decisions
ME3's choices were fucking kino

>>723580772
>can't kill Liara
Sounds gay to me.

>>723580772
yeah true. but, the endings and how all your choices are literally numbers, that add up, made ppl hate ME3 so much

>>723573995 (OP)

Jack and it isn't even close. All Miranda had was her ass.

>177 hours
>only finished 3 once
3 is that fucking bad from start to finish, especially the way Jack looks, as evidenced here: >>723581517

>>723581627
>started with LE
Opinion invalidated, on both accounts

>>723581627
>demaster
lol
>thinks 3 is the worst
lmao even

>>723573995 (OP)
What debate? Who's the ugliest?

>>723581517
Retarded how they changed her hair color in LE for some reason

>>723573995 (OP)
Why not both?

>>723574795
Counterpoint.

>>723582009
I was off planet when ME2/3 originally released. I only played 1 (about 50 times split between 360 and PC) at that point. 3 is just a trudge, and this is supposedly the "good" version with the "fixed" ending and the DLC that supposedly made it "good."
>>723582026
I'm not playing a game at 62fps in 2025. Also, ME1 original lacks gamepad support. Not sure about 2/3 because I was temporarily dead.
>>723582126
Retarded that she had hair in 3 and was "all better now" after 6 months.
>>723582161
Good morning, sir.
>>723582225
Been fapping to skullfucking guro a lot, lately.
>>723582280
>webm of a watermarked gif

>>723578704
Just hearing her voice, man.

>>723578851
total clanker death

>>723573995 (OP)
Jack, because I could fix her

>>723582161
Because Bioware isn't cool enough to let you have threesomes.

>>723582347
>I was off planet
You're clearly off your meds too

>>723579391
>jewish whore
Miranda isn't jewish.

>>723582425
I love her, and her VA is hot, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qLpy52sHYc
(top left, not the jeet)

>>723582471
You can in DAO doe

>>723582447
based

>>723582528
It's been like ten years since I last played Dragon Age, remind me

>>723581627
I haven't touched ME3 since 2012. The cutscene with Kai Leng during the Citadel coup gave me a mini stroke and I couldn't even use a mouse and keyboard for a while.

>>723582347
>webm of a watermarked gif
saves on the filesize. This thing was over a MB large.

>>723582471
>year of our lord 2000+25
>caring what Bioware does
Mac wanted speculation for everyone, my speculation is that I fuck them both.

>>723582745
I most recently went back and played 1 and 2, reasonably enjoying the former and loving the latter. I tried 3 again, and it's so fucking stupid all the way through. Literally an evil twin. A squid with a drunken slur. Badass jobber ninja that has no buildup but he fucking HATES Shepard (and kills Thane while everyone watches). That's not all, but fuck, it's bad.

>>723575907
Jack was supposed to be a carpet muncher but they were woke and changed it to not play into stereotypes lmao

>>723582510
TOTAL clanker DEATH

>>723582902
ME3 is mechanically inferior. Broken waypoint system, the worst journal system in video games, you can't even holster your weapon.

I fucking love bald girls. If I wasn't a permavirgin autist and could manipulate a girl into being my gf, I'd also manipulate her into shaving her head for me.

Are any of the romanceable females in the series NOT infertile?

>>723582959
>but they were woke and changed it to not play into stereotypes lmao
No, it was the blowback from having a lesbian romance in ME1.
I wouldn't really care, but the lesbo butthurt was spectacular to witness.
Even if there was a romance, Jack punching femshep's lights out in ME3 would be too realistic.

>>723573995 (OP)
Not even close to a debate.

>>723583203
All LIs can have kids with Shepard.
via Mac Walters.

>>723583215
>Jack punching femshep's lights out
Holy shit.
Can I get a webm of that, please?

I love Jack so much it's unreal

>>723583238
>Mattock
Hilarious how absolutely insanely broken this gun is in ME2 just to become a completely mid rifle in ME3.

>>723583464
I hate the PS3 era polygon count.
Jack's arms are 5 polygons all in all.
The SFM shit have higher poly counts than that.

>>723583464
Not enough to pick the attractive version.

>>723583621
ME2 looks so much better than ME3, it's not even funny.

>come home from work
>see this
what do

>>723583531
That's why I posted a picture of the Harrier, and not the Mattock.
But I understand the confusion, it is a modded texture to avoid it looking like some cerberus shit.

>>723583707
Trade it in for the superior version.

>>723583707
breed because unlike miranda, she can have kids post the ME2 version and/or pregnant jack

for me, it's not playing shitty games

>>723583771
>unlike miranda, she can have kids
see >>723583286

>>723583827
the games literally say she cant still want that pregnant jack

>>723583707
I'm a simple man. I eat.

>>723582675
In one of the inns, you can do a threesome with Isabela and either Leliana or Zevran (and I believe even a foursome with both of them)

>>723583914
The games can say whatever they want. Until a Bioware dev, or the next game says otherwise, Miranda can.
There is no pregnant Jack for that animation.

>>723573995 (OP)
I'll take the lot.

for me, it's turian women

>>723573995 (OP)
ME3 Jack > Miranda > ME2 Jack

ME2 jack has no hair, which is the worst sin a woman can commit. She's also just kind of boring angry lady with no personality. Not that Miranda is much better, begin just a generic bitch with a fucked up face, but she is at least relevant to the story. ME3 Jack is pretty decent however. Has hair, has some actual personality, nips.

That said Liara, Tali and maybe Ash are the only valid romance choices since they are the only ones who actually stick around for more than 1 game.

>>723583914
If they can bring Shepard back from literal paste they can give her working ovaries. Or just artificially inseminate Oriana because she can get pregnant and it'd be as close as Miranda could get to having one of her own since they have the same genetics

>>723580772
>careful diplomacy
damn straight

>>723582902
>loving the latter
You're part of the problem

>>723583531
kek retard

>>723584109
BASEDBASEDBASED

>>723584519
Femshep is a bimbo slut canonically

Am I super autistic if I can't comprehend how female Shepard can headbutt krogan, reload and shoot and overall use Widowmaker.?

>>723584058
in general, not for the animation

>>723582902
Is that more or less retarded than curing death, "this pistol doesn't have a thermal clip", retconning 1's progress and ending, and a giant human baby robot that shoots lasers from his mouth? Disingenuous idiot.

I never got into mass effect. I must've played like 2 hours of the first game and it just didn't click for me.
I have, however, been consistently fapping to it for 15 years. It's a fucking goldmine. Western writers discovered how to mimic the power of harem anime and made unspeakably hot characters who get new porn daily 13 years after the last game's release for exactly one franchise and never again.

>>723573995 (OP)
I prefer making Garrus spill his spaghetti

>>723584734
I do have a pregnant Jack somewhere, but it's gonna be a while.

>>723584829
Gay

>>723584829
>wanting to fuck your bro

>>723584447
>the majority is wrong
>>723584778
More. Also, don't forget how Mass Effect 2 invented chest high walls and is a Gears of War (which you hate because you suck at) clone.

>>723584664
That just means you didn’t play the games. In ME2, shep is a cyborg. In ME3, shep is a cyborg with all the augmentation upgrades from ME2

>>723584817
I wish that were true. We hardly get ME stuff daily anymore. Most of what we do get is crap. And most of that is this awful femshep shit spam.
Compared to Overwatch, Marvel Rivals, LoL, Valorant, DoA, Metroid, Bioshock, Witcher and Resident Evil, we get the scraps of the scraps.

>>723584664
There is no female Shepard, unless you count his children with Tali.

>>723585308
>Tali

>>723583531
Makes sense, 2 had like five guns total and the Mattock was paid DLC. 3 had an actual armory with variation to choose from (Typhoon my beloved)

>>723585293
>finally some new high quality Mass Effect R34 drops
>it's futa

There are nobody on earth that is more deserving of torture and genocide that futa faggots.

>>723584109
Warning: NSFW

>>723585423
Saudi owners. Hijab girl is canon now.

Is this the person that we want protecting the galaxy?

>>723585485
Especially the futa femshep shit.
Automatically ruins everything.
At least with EDI you can rationalize it.
Everything else, no.

>>723573995 (OP)
>not threesome option or decent 3d porn of them
I hate this gay earth

>>723585108
>a side result of the Lazarus Project is more retarded than the concept of the Lazarus Project
>a cyber-dude the game itself acknowledges loses at every opportunity is more retarded than a, let me repeat myself, a giant human baby robot that shoots lasers from his mouth
You're gonna have to actually explain those, anon. I didn't even think about the Gears stuff but thanks for adding to it I guess

>>723585638
The point is that ME2 from beginning to end is an awesome ride, and only you and about 2 other schizos disagree.
ME3 is trash from beginning to end, and only you and game journalists disagree.
You might want to get on the right side of history.

>>723585435
>Typhoon
https://youtu.be/ZPbB4qfsA14

>>723583531
>Mattock
Yup, that shit is outdated. They made a meta upgrade called the Cerberus Harrier and it’s broken as shit. But, none of that matters because you can just use the Prothean Rifle, Typhoon, or Lancer. They’re more fun to use too

>>723585732
>The point is that I söyfaced and clapped really really hard when the explosions happened
Concession accepted then

>>723574236
>Miranda enters the Normandy.webp

>>723574795
kill yourself troon.

>>723585595
Savagecabbage made a few short ensemble stuff that features them both.
>the best Jack animations are still Blue Star episode 2 and the fatcat one
>Miranda's is still the stuff that made it out from Bluelight's canceled animation and N7 Parnack Negotiations
It's been 15 years since the franchise came out.
Why is everything so unfappable?

>>723585518
The only good thing that came out of Andromeda

>>723585791
Being contrarian isn't a substitute for having a personality.

Which shotguns are good for ME3 Vanguard?

>>723585732
>You might want to get on the right side of history.
reddit is that way

>>723585916
Arguing with Farquad isn't worth the time, anon.

>>723579391
>Jewish whore
Tali isn't in the pic.

>>723585954
I wouldn't know what reddit is like. Since you frequent it, why not post some screencaps?
>>723586014
Tali isn't a (((Volus))).

>>723585974
Farquad created inbred ""chad"" characters and posts gay webms though. You can't even get your strawman schizos right.

>>723585732
>ME3 is trash from beginning to end
It's basically the same exact game only the combat is a bit tighter. If you don't like ME3, you don't like ME2.

>>723573995 (OP)
Always found Jack hotter, even though Miranda was obviously designed to be the more attractive of the two.

The real choice is Tali of course, but that's beside the point.

>>723585916
Don't bother, he's too mentally stunted to argue with. He's spent 15, almost 16, years of his life being mad and no
amount of arguing is going to change it. Just ignore him.

>>723573995 (OP)
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>>723586071
>>The real choice is Tali of course
I always pick Tali

>>723585873
>>the best Jack animations are still Blue Star episode 2 and the fatcat one
Which are old and fucking short.
Meanwhile the futas have like 40min of threesome action. Fags.
>Miranda's is still the stuff that made it out from Bluelight's canceled animation and N7 Parnack Negotiations
Shit. It really is. Maybe the IckySticky stuff is somewhat on the same level but eh.
ME really does lack actually good porn, for such a popular franchise

>>723586156
ahem
>femshep

>>723584560
Turian woman are taller than humans. Retarded coomers can't even get the basics right.

>>723586152
I can't imagine the amount of estrogen necessary to let this happen and to record it.

>>723585873
>Why is everything so unfappable
Cause patreon paypiggies keep on dumping tens of thousands of dollars on guys who haven't made a decent animation in a decade, so they have no incentive to try and actually make anything good.

>>723573995 (OP)
tali clears

>>723586176
>Shit. It really is. Maybe the IckySticky stuff is somewhat on the same level but eh.
Krogan Plaything was kinda OK.
the other one with the salarian was awful
maybe because the VA wouldn't shut up and talked nonsense all the fucking time

>>723586313
>>I can't imagine the amount of estrogen necessary to let this happen and to record it.
You're right. It must have been in the negatives.

>>723585732
me3 is good except for the ending and the gayshit. Don't see how you can like me2 and dislike most of 3.

>>723586271
My MaleShep is an Infiltrator

>>723586337
So much there's nothing left of her

>>723586335
There's a lot of people that can make decent animations, it's just that either they just HAVE to make it futa and it HAS to be femshep

>>723586468
Nobody cares. Stop posting the uggo

>>723586720
Stop being publicly mad at things inside your head then

>>723586756
femshep isn't inside my head
nobody likes femshep, except trannies

>>723586814
>>723586756

>>723586578
>he didn't save everyone
desu I kinda wish I did get rid of Jacob but whatever

>>723586852
Who are you talking to? What the hell is wrong with you? Get some help.

>>723573995 (OP)
Not being able to cuck Joker is a massive missed opportunity. Fucking EDI would have been the ultimate renegade move.

>>723587080
joker is a friend, why would you do that to him?

>>723586457
>all characters introduced in 2 sidelined and/or killed
>Jack got ugly
>Liara is back
>Mattock feels off
>inventory is back, and is somehow worse than 1
>level up system has really dumb branch choices
>the game is overall uglier, with everyone looking suddenly doughy
>REALLY long mission chains that you're locked into
>3-4 drop points on planets that can fuck you if you do them in the wrong order (Rannoch, especially)
>aforementioned Evil Twin
>aforementioned drunk squid
>aforementioned jobber ninja
>stupid kid that traumatized Shepard, despite the fact that he (now canon) genocided batarians
>dream sequences as a result
>Blizzard writing level of villain introduction (instead of jamming a soulstone in his forehead, the Illusive Man just decided to sit on a reaper dildo)
Taking Back Omega was about the only part of the game I didn't mind doing completely, but it still went retarded and self-contained by killing Nyreen so she never had to be mentioned outside of it.
>>723586468
As gay as a man playing femshep is, she cute doe.

>>723587230
>>stupid kid that traumatized Shepard, despite the fact that he (now canon) genocided batarians
literally the only valid criticism you have, lol

>>723587230
>inventory is back, and is somehow worse than 1
>level up system has really dumb branch choices
>REALLY long mission chains that you're locked into
Wait, so you are mad 3 tries to go back to being more of an RPG like 1 and not as streamlined as 2? lol

>>723586910
>Jacob -- you volunteered, so you're up.

>>723587382
Nobody likes RPGs. That's why Schedule I Claire Danes is a flop.

>ME2 fans don't want ME being an RPG
You heard it here first folks

>ME3tranny is a passive-aggressive bitch
You heard it here first folks

>>723587382
No, we are mad that in spite of bringing these back, they were still executed so bad, that makes us wish they had skipped it again.
If the choice is
>do something badly
or
>don't
then don't is preferable to doing it, but shit.

I'm a ME1 chad, thoughever

>>723587180
Because I'm role-playing as an absolute cunt.

>>723573995 (OP)
Tali.

>>723587759
not cool

>>723587661
>"we"
And they were executed far better. I don't know what universe you can come from where the Reputation bar isn't an objective upgrade from the Paragon/Renegade bars, and doubly so with the far more diverse skill trees and especially weapon modification

>>723587230
>the Suicide Mission making them all optional took care of that, same way 2 sidelined Wrex and the Virmire Survivor
>she got better
>2 is the one that changed her from archeologist to shadow broker
> >>723585435
>adding back shit from 1 that was cut from 2 is good
>having actual build variety instead of extremely dumbed down "skill trees" is good
>it is not, Shepard's face looked weird in OG 2 and faces overall have more detail
>that's good
>which ones, given both Rannoch and Tuchanka are fine as long as you do the obvious thing ie do the sidequests before the main quest; surely you weren't filtered
>given a reasonable explanation within LP and also played up precisely for the kind of tone that storyline was going for
>no idea what you're talking about
>game itself relishes in him being a jobber and both Thane and Shepard BTFO both in skill and in dialogue
>it's not about a single kid but what that kid represents
>they're fine
>TIM was introduced and written retardedly in 2

Jack's tattoos are just too shit. It's like they just drew random smears and smudges on her as a placeholder and just never got around to actually designing tattoos.

did you guys save everyone?

>>723586578
>>723586152
she deserved way worse
stupid space gypsy tried to smuggle information off MY ship

>>723587946
>>And they were executed far better
delusional

>>723573995 (OP)
No debate at all. Jack is a gutter skank. Miranda is perfection. The problem is that Bioware is absolutely pozzed and full woke and needs to be closed down.

>>723587974
Yeah the Suicide Mission happened a game too early, they shot themselves in the foot. You can read in 3's artbook how Kashley were meant to be a squadmate across the trilogy but 2 made them appear for five minutes just because it didn't want to be bothered with creating two different characters depending on player choice. How they thought in the same game they'd be able to do the same for TWELVE characters when they didn't even bring them back to voice any line in the DLC is deranged.

>>723588232
You still haven't argued how being punished for roleplaying by not being able to hit the Jack/Miranda or Tali/Legion checks is better game design than both Paragon and Renegade contributing to a single Reputation bar. Or how bringing back weapon modding from ME1 so you can customize not only weapon load order but the weapon itself is bad. Or how actually letting you show your load order with the weight affecting cooldown so there's more decisions to be made and can allow for cool variations like a shotgun Infiltrator is bad. Or how abilities actually having differences in the skill tree which can result in different detonations or power combos is bad. Until you do that, your bait won't receive any more replies

>>723588253
bioware put in a lesbian relationship option in ME1, why don't chuddies cry about that?

>>723588253
>The problem is that Bioware is absolutely pozzed and full woke and needs to be closed down.
Is this directed toward the next game they are making, or just in general?

>>723588253
Mshep has sex with his husband Kaidan in each one of my playthroughs and initiates the romance from the first game using mods as all the lines are already on the disc, and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it

>>723587230
>>723587308
Why did the kid make so many people have a meltdown? Like a lot of things post ME1 it was a bit stupid sure, but I don't get why this got so many people upset to the point where they felt the need to mod it out and shit.

>>723588447
Everybody wanted to fuck the lesbians back then.
Now we have a billion canon lesbian only characters and we know that a lesbian relationship is a constant MMA fight, in addition to all dykes being 500 pound hambeasts, and it's lost its luster. Now we just want a girl that likes cock.

>>723588069
It's too easy to save everyone. For a mission titled "suicide mission" you need to play like a retard or be 13 to get anyone killed
>mmm need to send someone in the vents, who do I go for: the flotilla gypsy, the robot, the thief... or the random black dude that doesn't have any defining feature as a skillset beyonf "le marine le soldier"?
>mmm need someone to create a biotic bubble, do I go for: the walking human biotic experiment, the thousand year old asari matriarch... or the cheerleader whose abilities are all bought with daddy's money?

See? *Now* Farquaad is here

>>723588546
>Why did the kid make so many people have a meltdown?
because he was forced down our throats in multiple dream sequences and it's not like it was Sheps fault that the retard chose to die. If they needed to show guilt there are multiple crew mates that have died during the journey that both Shep and the player feel for.

>>723588546
Because nobody gave a shit about the kid.
In ME2, you Shepard could have seen a lot of close crew, including you possible LI, get fucking liquidated in front of your fucking eyes, and that didn't give him a PTSD, but this stupid fucking kid does.

>>723588546
it was unnecessary and felt out of place, we already knew the stakes what with the reapers blowing everything up
if you want shepherd to do a little soul-searching then you can achieve that through his interactions with the crew (which does happen anyway with the joke joker tells), he didn't need a fucking kid in there haunting his conscious or whatever, it's just lazy storytelling
also the dream cutscenes are just plain annoying

>>723588546
Probably because of its association with the ending that everyone hates, since The Catalyst takes the form of and speaks in the voice of the kid. Also the dream sequences suck ass

>>723578704
This picture always feels like it was made by yoracrab when you look at the thumbnail, so I keep on expecting muscular Miri, but it wasn't meant to be...

>>723588546
Because I shit you not they thought Shepard was having dreams about specifically that random kid and not the obvious thing: that the kid was just the representation of Earth as a whole, which is why having whoever died on Virmire there for example wouldn't narratively work

>>723588546
I don't mod because because I don't mod my genitals, but
>the kid thing was hackneyed
>you're supposed to give a shit about him, and Shepard is so traumatized he's having dreams about him
>he had one line
>you spoke 2 lines to him
The only way that opening with him could have been any dumber was if "Suicide is Painless" was playing.

>>723588617
>>It's too easy to save everyone. For a mission titled "suicide mission" you need to play like a retard or be 13 to get anyone killed
Anon, you have no idea how many players lost people in the SM. Including myself. Example
>send the crew I saved back with Garrus, because I thought it mattered
>need Miranda on my team
>didn't know that the only fireteam leader left is Jacob
so I naturally killed Tali.

>>723588447
Technically, Asari are not women. And Liara doesn't really behave like a normal human female when you interact at her.

>>723588740
>the kid was just the representation of Earth as a whole
miss me with that symbolism shit

>>723584058
Game is canon, not whatever shite they write on twitter.

>>723588843
And nothing of value was lost

>>723588617
if you didn’t min/max like an autist, people die during the suicide mission

>>723588687
>has personally killed thousands of people
>also literally destroys entire planet and kills everyone there
but hey, some random kid is what causes this guy to lose sleep

>>723586271
Don't get your panties twisted, fag, OG ME3 and pre-ME3 femsheps are fine.

>>723588931
>>Game is canon, not whatever shite they write on twitter.
Doesn't matter. If the writer says it's canon, it's canon.

>>723588740
this is the entire problem though- it's a very cliche writing technique that reveals the fact that whoever thought it up didn't understand the games

>>723589005
Nobody gives a fuck anymore. ME3 femshep has retroactively ruined everything.

>>723589027
Mac isn't the writer. Drew Karpyshyn is.

>>723588945
>"if you didn’t min/max like an autist"
>what min/maxing like an autist means: upgrading the Normandy when asked for it one of the 5 times the game beats you over the head with doing, then choosing soldiers for soldier roles and techies for techy roles
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW BUGGED SURVIVAL MECHANICS

>>723589027
Writers aren't the ultimate authority on art, when they are co-creators.
What happens in Mass Effect was not for humans to decide.

>>723588740
kys

>>723574795
>people choosing the female version of Shepard exist for real

>>723588945
people surviving the suicide mission has nothing to do with stats, you just have to buy armor upgrades and not send the wrong crew members on the missions

>>723573995 (OP)
Jack is my wife. Simple as

>>723589102
Only for the terminally online.

>>723589107
Now it's Mary DeMarle, so I guess the entire trilogy is non canon, then.

>>723582902
>went back and played 1 and 2
>((reasonably enjoying the former))
>(((((loving the latter)))))

>>723588740
I was gonna call bullshit but between >>723588808, >>723588926 and >>723589207 I think people did unironically see the kid as the literal kid kek

>>723588673
>>723588687
>>723588808
>>723588976
None of those scenes really spoke of guilt or PTSD to me, more just feeling the stress and worry of having the fate of the galaxy on your shoulders. The kid was just a powerful image he saw the last time he was on earth.

>>723588704
>>723588716
I do agree the sequences were kind of annoying, but I did like how it showed Shepard was actually getting affected. So much of the reaper invasion felt kind of underwhelming and in the background.

>>723589080
That's fair but you can say the same thing about pretty much anything in Mass Effect, especially post ME1. It just strikes me as odd that out of all the retarded moments in Mass Effect this kid got so much hate.

>>723588617
The only bullshit thing about the suicide mission is Mordin randomly dying during the final hold the line section if you don't send him back to the ship or take him with you to the final boss. There's literally NO way to know that would happen beforehand.

>>723589169
Too late, Miri gave birth to our third child a few years back.

>>723578704
Miranda's face scan is excessively busted and uncanny, and it only got worse in 3 when they halfass ported it. Jack's ME2 one actually looks good though.

Reporter Diana Allers is the best girl and IM TIRED OF YOU ALL PRETENDING SHE ISNT

>>723589282
I see no Mass Effect credits. Then again, Alanah Pierce was head writer for God of War Ragnarok and never got a credit because men are misogynistic chuds. :(
>>723589328
He literally went a rubbery one because a kid died. The kid doesn't represent anyone else. If they wanted to represent Earth, he should have been shown in futile combat situations alongside Anderson.

>>723589378
>but I did like how it showed Shepard was actually getting affected
here's a better way that they did this- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY136KbNVQQ

>>723589279
Call it what you want, any other "femshep" may as well be an OC Donut Steel character that has nothing to do with ME at this point. Femshep is forever ruined, unless they bring her back next ME and cast Karen Gillan as femshep, to fix her look.

>>723589380
Is that full blown guaranteed or is it just that he pulls down the score

>>723589378
>It just strikes me as odd that out of all the retarded moments in Mass Effect this kid got so much hate.
They are simply bitter and coping that their story fell into chaos, which is extra funny seeing as the series is exactly about Chaos.

>>723589498
this whole thing was completely baffling
I'm so glad game "journalism" is dead and buried

>>723589328
Something something, "don't attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

>>723589498
I do a pretty good Elcor impersonation, and I may learn to mod just so I can dub all her lines over as Elcor.
>>723589380
You can send any of the three weakest (Tali, Kasumi, Mordin) back, and put the other two in your party in the last push. As long as you see Jack alive in the ending cutscenes, everyone else survived.

>>723589378
>The kid was just a powerful image
lol, he's a professional soldier that has seen countless deaths of soldiers, of innocent and of people close to him. It's not a strong message, it's silly to think that this was what actually broke him when it wasn't even his fault as the kid actively chose to not take Sheps help.

>>723589378
My personal headcanon was, because I always play a default appearance Earthborn or colonist Shepard, that the kid was actually a representation of a younger Shep who is now reliving the trauma of his childhood seeing Earth under attack. The fact that nobody ever seems to acknowledge the kid besides Shepard in the opening, and how the final dream ends with the kid and adult Shepard together reinforces it to me.

>>723589378
>>None of those scenes really spoke of guilt or PTSD to me
Seeing the entire crew of the Normandy, minus the away team crew and Chakwas, get liquidated in front of your very own eyes, as they scream in fear and terror, is not PTSD material to you? People see a person get blown by a landmine and get marked for life. That shit would drive me insane.

>>723589625
This is 4chan.
>fries are cold? jews did it
>why? because America told them to

>>723588253
> The problem is that Bioware is absolutely pozzed and full woke and needs to be closed down.
pic related wrote all of your favorite ME characters btw
yes, even her

>>723589501
>>I see no Mass Effect credits
Look up where she is now, and what she is working on.
She is the lead writer for the next Mass Effect.

>>723589817
>he doesn't know
She's on the chopping block. Women are not allowed to be "lead" anything.

>>723589378
>The kid was just a powerful image

>>723589537
>she chose the top option

>>723580772
>C-Sec treats the Krogan ambassador as a crazy krogan and gives him the drug addict treatment
This scene is pretty hilarious in context

>>723589862
very erotic Xbox 360 era facescan of a gaming celebrity

>>723589634
>As long as you see Jack alive in the ending cutscenes, everyone else survived.
I kept getting Mordin blown up in the cutscene as we left the Collector Base, but he always survived that. I wonder how does the game reconciled it.

>>723589809
He did write ME3 Jack.
I do think she is a step down from ME2 Jack.
But she was written to be happier in ME3, regardless.

>>723590048
This is the formula. Obviously, everyone has to be loyal to survive.

>>723589410
Miri isn't Yvonne, you know, no matter how impressive they both are.
Anyway, my point was that writers are just writers. If you believe twitter posts constitute an unquestionable authority, or that even being in a company matters just read about TF2's Miss Pauling, e.g.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/718848328/#718858883
An easy example.

>>723589871
When/If she gets fired, you can tell me "I told you so". Until then, the trilogy is no longer canon, because nor Drew, nor Mac, nor Casey are anymore related to the project.

>>723589809
>wrote tali, jack and mordin
>later was lead writer for veilguard and wrote that "I'm non-binary" dragon lady that everyone laughed at
how is this physically possible

>>723590209
Grooming.

>>723589498
This character really makes Mass Effect 3 feel old in a way that 1 and 2 aren't.

>>723589645
It's not the kid that "broke him". He's just stressed the fuck out. I mean if you are worried about the current ongoing event of the galaxy being overrun by robots you are hardly gonna be dreaming about your squad-mates getting killed by a thresher maw 8 years ago.

>>723589750
Sure, but what does that have to do with Shepard getting stress dreams over the galaxy being invaded?

>>723589540
I fail to see the reason for drama. Face model is nicely sharp, character is exactly the same, and if you don't like it, you still can make your own facecode.
I'd be more bothered by the addition of Cortez and Traynor if I were you.

>>723590209
this guy wrote tali and mordin? wtf

>>723590152
>success of specialists depends on loyalty
this was always bullshit, legion is a fucking robot

>>723590209
Same way Ridley Scott went from directing Alien and Blade Runner to Prometheus and Gladiator II

>>723590152
I wonder if you can mathematically take like zaeed and grunt to the final boss and still not lose anyone on HTL

>>723590419
Ridley Scott trooned out?

>>723590337
NTA but default femshep in 3 is just a slightly touched up CaC potato head isn't it

>>723590418
GOD I wish I could have saved Legion. He really was one of the good ones

>>723590157
>>Miri isn't Yvonne, you know
Obviously
Anyway, here she is in her first pregnancy.

>>723590418
He's sentient. You can get his loyalty before the suicide mission (and before the crew gets abducted, so you don't lose any by doing a mission).

>>723589809
Man probably wrote it before he went down the pipeline, almost impossible to make a comeback from that because all the perspective need to be filtered from a
>players don't want women characters to show weakness POV
and
>players can't relate to peak competence and masculine MC's
Shepard could not be made today

>>723573995 (OP)
Tali and then Liara

>>723590152
pic related is not correct- there's some sort of calculation that's based on who leads the crew back and who you take with you in the final phase with each party member having a score

>>723590331
>>Sure, but what does that have to do with Shepard getting stress dreams over the galaxy being invaded?
What does the kid have to do with the Reapers?

>>723590418
>Legion is a robot
Yes, but he's also an emotional autist robot who's clearly a Shepard fanboy
>>723590547
same, Legion's rather a funny one for what you would think his character archetype would be

>>723590617
this

>>723590617
That phase is absolutely correct, but since the 3 physically weakest characters are Mordin, Tali, and Kasumi; one of those three has to escort the crew back, and the other two have to be in your final party fighting babyreaper.

>>723590337
>>I fail to see the reason for drama. Face model is nicely sharp, character is exactly the same, and if you don't like it, you still can make your own facecode.
She's hideous and anything she is involved in is repulsive, because she is repulsive.

>I'd be more bothered by the addition of Cortez and Traynor if I were you.
What makes you think I'm not? Not because they are gay, but because they are useless characters introduced in the third installment of a trilogy that are implemented at the cost of other, better characters.

>>723590613
>Liara
She got ruined. Completely different character after the first game. Couldn't take here seriously afterwards

>>723590496
>CaC potato
You think she's related to Spudvi from Andromeda?

>>723590496
A what head?

>>723573995 (OP)
>>723574236
>>723574795
>Break up with Miranda
>She breaks down and literally DIES

She's the real deal

>>723573995 (OP)
>Want to masturbate to Miranda porn.
>"Oh, you wanted gigantic proportions along with gigantic futa horsecock?" -Every porn rotted faggot in the R34 industry.
Fuck futa fags and fuck hyperporn gooners. My only hope is for RedMoa or Fugtrup to make something at this point.

Guys! Guys! I have the new ME protagonist. It's official.

>>723590727
>one of those three has to escort the crew back, and the other two have to be in your final party fighting babyreaper.
Incorrect. You only need to send one of them to escort the crew, you can leave the other two behind to hold the line and still have them survive so long as they're loyal and have loyal heavy hitters like Grunt and Zaeed with them to boost the team's overall score. I've used this strategy before and all my crew have survived.

>>723590961
>RedMoa

>>723590784
Did you take her seriously to start with, I thought they just took their waifu pandering character from 1 and jackhammered it into a different waifu pandering shaped hole

>>723585435
I genuinely believe Mass Effect 3 has one of the best weapon selection in vidya. I swear every single gun in the game from handguns to shotguns to snipers either have a cool name, a cool design, a cool sound, a performance or all of the above. Then add to it the MP and it's just stupidly fun to play.

>>723591049
cant imagine bioware creating anything good these days. There's litterally only two options - playing too safe or going full woke. Neither are crowd pleasers

>>723584854
ok, i'll be waiting

>>723590547
You know him for like five minutes

>>723590473
She's Riley Scott now

>>723591193
I actually wouldn't mind "woke" (or maybe "woke lite") if I got decent storytelling in a classic bioware RPG format

>>723591193
I can see what you'd mean by going full woke, but what would you consider playing too safe?

>>723591269
are you a woman?

>>723590641
...he died directly because of them? Earth is being harvested due to them?

>>723573995 (OP)
still cant believe they did yvonne so dirty in this...

>>723591269
he was a good boy ;_;

>>723590961
You get 2 whine options
>wah why don't literal degenerates not make wholesome PORN
or
>wah why don't literal degenerates that make PORN garbage cater to my degeneracy
The very "Rule 34" is a stealthy mockery of braindead morons who think pornifying everything is fun and good.
For one nice and appreciative bit of erotica you get 10 pieces of garbage.
You people memed in a cultural effect, have built yourself a literal whore shop, letting scum playing with models and drawings as they please - so please suffer its natural effects.
You're worse than Batarians.

>>723591382
Pretty sure he died due to that shuttle being suspiciously combustible.

>>723591310
nta but Liara and Shepard pandering, bringing Shep back, shitloads of member berries and jokes about Conrad Verner and calibrations, etc.

>>723590727
that's just the highest possible scoring way, there's slack if you want to change a few things. E.g. if everyone is loyal you can send back grunt with the escorts, then take two HTL bottom tiers to the final battle with you (say tali and jack), and garrus and zaeed can still cover for the two leftover bottom tier HTLers are left (mordin and DLC girl) giving you the exact score of 2 average that will mean no deaths

>>723586272
That's a teenager

>>723591268
Sorry, I got distracted by other things.
I have more, and not as old.

>>723591382
>>...he died directly because of them?
So do many other people all around you?
Are they invisible?

>>723573995 (OP)
Miranda barely exists as a character, a woman and as a human being
She's the embodiment of nothing

>>723591750
>So do many other people around you
Does Shepard see them before or after the kid? Does he interact with them directly before their deaths? Are they the personification of innocence and helplessness?

>>723591310
>what would you consider playing too safe
no real choice to affect anything. Complex macro problems from trilogy being replaced with "relatable" on current year problems.
Renegade essentially being forced to make the same choices as paragon except with cocky dialog lines.
etc

>>723591496
>nta
I don't know what that helps, if you aren't making the complaint in the first place.

>Liara and Shepard pandering
That would upset literally anyone that didn't romance Liara, which is going to be fun to watch the aftermath of, but not seeing it in itself. Not sure they can do it to begin with.

>bringing Shep back
They're not selling anything without a well received returning protagonist, as the protagonist.
Like, if they ever made another DA, they have to go back to HoF now. Neither Hawke, nor Inquisitor, and definitely not Rook or a new PC are going to save DA, the same's gonna be true of ME.

>shitloads of member berries and jokes about Conrad Verner and calibrations
That's not gonna be worth $60. That's maybe a youtube/twitch watch of a playthrough.

>>723591496
>bringing Shep back
yeah, instead the will bring Liara as protag lmao

>>723591998
>if you aren't making the complaint in the first place
Maybe because I share said complaint? Given I wouldn't have posted otherwise? Wait, are you the schizo that believes Shepard is coming back and that the Trannyguard N7 armor is a reference to that? Are you gonna start sperging again about the LE being the definitive version of the games?

what if the new ME's main character is the Virmire survivor
I think this would work honestly

>>723592126
why are you against Shep coming back?

>>723591668
Or maybe I don't. I'll keep looking.
Have a bride Jack for compensation.

>>723591496
Did they do low tier memberberries in veilguard? I'd think I'd have heard something if they did just from osmosis.

>>723591876
>>Does Shepard see them before or after the kid?
He even sees them with the kid.

>Does he interact with them directly before their deaths?
The council that dies at the start? What does interacting with the kid have to do with anything?

>Are they the personification of innocence and helplessness?
What? Honestly, what? What the fuck?

>>723592170
Try telling the EA suit in charge of your work unit that you want to headline the expensive new game with some of the least popular characters in the franchise

>>723573995 (OP)
My shepherd is a human supremacist so I only fuck the asari

>>723591894
That's not "playing it safe", that's just soulless.

>>723592227
What little they could given none of the choices from previous games were imported so they couldn't have stuff like King Alistair. Morrigan is back, the Inquisitor is back, they call back to Loghain and Ostagar.

>>723592187
You are, holy shit lmfao how do you make your manner of speaking so damn obvious every thread, resident schizo-kun?

btw which me3 ending is canon? or are they doing prequel with me4?

>>723592126
>are you the schizo that believes Shepard is coming back
I don't believe Shepard is coming back. I believe that Bioware knows they're joining the unemployment line if he doesn't, but I don't think he's coming back.

>the Trannyguard N7 armor is a reference to that?
I mean, it clearly is. If they have to use "shepherded" to describe it, I am sure it means Conrad Verner, right?

>>723592291
>He even sees them with the kid
Does he? Where and when? And again, does he interact with them directly?
>The council that dies at the start?
You mean the *military* Alliance council?
>What does interacting with the kid have to do with anything?
Because he's someone Shep saw and talked with face to face, not a background NPC running away in the chaos. Shepard personally saw him, multiple times, then died
>What? Honestly, what?
Look, I'm sorry you are retarded but next time tell me in advance so I know not to waste my time with you

>>723592356
AI says Sandal wasn't in it which would be the top tier shitty memberberries I can imagine

>>723592361
what are you talking bout schizo? this is the only thread ive been active on today.

>>723592170
>the Virmire survivor
Could be dead, depending on Citadel Coup condition. If you're gonna set a canon, it will definitely not be to gender lock you into an established character. Especially if that one can be openly racist towards aliens.

>>723592442
Destroy if they know what's good for them. Whatever they do we know at least some geth are still functional

>>723592442
well synthesis definitely isn't canon because otherwise you couldn't make a sequel

TOTAL ROBOT DEATH

>>723592546
See >>723592462. This dude always posts the same way, in every ME thread, with the same copypasted talking points.

>>723592442
they will go out of their way to not say it was destroy even though destroy is the only one that will make a world state that lets them make more shitty sequels. The geth will be alive but not have reaper macguffin shit with no explanation

>>723573995 (OP)
>>723574420
>>723574320
>>723575210
>>723578960
>>723579713
>>723581517
>Candice Neil.
>>723583091
>>723583464
>>723583707
>try to finally finish a playthrough where I choose Jack
>she keeps talking about all the times she was railed and gang-raped

So I guess you're all just cucks and this gets you off? Ashley can actually have kids and isn't a disgusting whore

>>723592227
Nope. In fact the game deliberately goes out of its way to tell you the entire Southern Thedas is devastated and almost everyone and everything you care about is dead or missing
Shit, Inquisition, fucking INQUISITION had good memberries and Veilguard was too pozzed and gay to do even that

>>723592219
Ah! There it is.

>>723592442
Ignore Synthesis, dab on Control, canonize this kino
https://youtu.be/qj3F8fLFU0Q?t=2618

>>723592687
Former whores are on par with virgins in terms of faithfulness in marriage.
If she was a whore and left, there's a good chance it was because of circumstance and she wants nothing to do with it ever again
Virgins fall in love with their first great sex experience.
It's the middle of the road ones that you can't trust. The mediocrity always traps them into a mindset of "I can always do better" plus fantasying about the other guys she slept with for no other reason than spite.

>>723592486
>Does he? Where and when?
there's other people with the kid

>does he interact with them directly?
why are you so hang up on this?

>You mean the *military* Alliance council?
Yes

>>Because he's someone Shep saw and talked with face to face,
That means nothing to me, personally

>Shepard personally saw him, multiple times, then died
Multiple times? The kid has like less than 2 minutes of screen time, before he's dead meat. I'm glad the little shit got blasted.

>Look, I'm sorry you are retarded but next time tell me in advance so I know not to waste my time with you
No, you are assuming that the writer's intent at emotional manipulation resonates with my characters, which it doesn't. You assume too much, much like the writers, which is an issue with the writing of ME3 overall. But if you disagree, you can suck on Mac's cock all you want.

>>723592792
with destroy you've written yourself into a massive corner without a major asspull because all the mass relays are wrecked which destroys all space-faring civilisation
I don't think you can just rebuild the relays that easily- say if earth is fucked, how are they going to do that? what about the relays near thessia? each of those regions would need the right tech and manpower and resources to fix them individually to ever see them again

>>723592792
question on the ending- how does the game determine who steps out of the ship with joker

>>723592442
Destroy is the only way.
The other two could just be ruses. With destroy there is a finality.

>>723591192
They are cool, but you can see that weapon design and lore becomes a bigger mess after the first game.
ME1 has 2 sets of firearms. Avenger set and Vindicator set, plus a Geth pulse rifle.
That's 3 sets of design aesthetics in total.
It is apparent from their appearance, that the normal ME1 guns come from 1 or 2 manufacturers per set, presumably being created by the same people, on the same factories, hence why they have a complementary appearance.
The fact that all other manufacturers are making the same guns (mostly - Cerberus Skunkworks guns are particle beam guns, not mass drivers) is easily explained by mutual licensing of certain guns between all manufacturers for market control, gun access control, expanded range of accessories, and any other purpose.

ME2 makes it so that these guns come from different manufacturers. Rosenkov Materials gets Viper - this is good, it already had it. But it doesn't get Carnifex, Katana and Vindicator. First shotgun model from Avenger design set is gone outright.
Predator pistol is given to a Turian company in spite of being obviously human and coming from the same factory line that makes Avenger, and the latter is given to a Volus company out of all things.
And that's just lore.

As for your picture, all the guns in it have a very particular issue, which both is and isn't a problem - they seek to "imitate" Mass Effect aesthetics.

>>723592986
it all got retconned with the shitty ending DLC, the relays get fixed in a jiff whichever thing you pick

>>723591192
>Black Widow, Krysae, Javelin, Valiant
>Harrier, Chakram, Argus, Lancer, Valkyrie, Particle, Typhoon
>Raider, Disciple, Wraith, Venom, Crusader, Piranha
>Punisher, Locust, Hurricane
>Acolyte, Executioner, M-11, Talon, Paladin, Eagle, Scorpion
My beloved...

>>723592442
Synthesis is the most narratively fitting ending for the trilogy, but Destroy is the only one that would actually provide a suitable foundation to do a sequel. Of course, all the endings are crap and have their own fair share of issues, and you'd need to bullshit and retcon a whole bunch of stuff regardless of which ending you go with in order to do a proper Mass Effect 4.

>>723592986
>replies to post with link to a video
>doesn't watch video
Pottery

>>723593210
In the 2019 teaser it shows them irrepairably destroyed.

>>723592986
you have to understand how an expensive late sequel like this works, they're not going to do something like have the relays be shut down when that's a big recognizable part of the IP. The EA suit would be like get the fuck out of here idiot

>>723593337
>2019
jesus christ, HURRY UP

>>723593294
mfs keep proving that modern /v/ doesn’t play video games. they watch lore videos and spout nonsense here

>>723593337
just outsourced garbage that means jack and shit, nobody in bioware is owning any major creative decisions from 2019

>>723588896
Technically, asari ARE women.

>>723593060
Pretty sure who tells Joker "we have to go" is the squadmate you have the least affinity with and the one that steps out with him at the end is the squadmate you have the most affinity with
>what's affinity
Basically how many times you talk to them and take them on missions. It also influences who speaks with Shepard during the Conduit run if romance isn't involved in the equation ie if you take Garrus and Liara with you and have more friendship with the former, it'll be Garrus who has some last words with Shepard while Liara helps him stand, even if narratively you'd it'd "make more sense" for soldier Garrus to help an injured enamored Liara say goodbye to the Space Jesus she has the hots for

>>723593410
I can do you one better
>ME1 came out in 2007
>ME:A came out in 2017
>4 games in 10 years
>ME4 teaser came out in 2019
>earliest projection for a release is 2029
>10 years to go from teaser to actual game release

>>723593410
why are you in any way getting your hopes up after trannyguard

>>723593457
Relax, Casey. You will always have your own games.

>>723593460
Practically, they are, technically they aren't, but the "gravitating toward male pronouns" shit is cringe, because, as Liara tells you in ME1, no asari gives a shit about pronouns. That is their entire collective culture. To them, they are asari and male and female has no distinction when they are asari.

>>723593337
No it doesn't, ffs it shows Liara in a snowy planet with two moons. Unless Earth grows an extra moon at the same time as it goes through a nuclear winter, she ain't standing on our solar system. Which means she's somewhere else in the galaxy. Which in ME terms means relay usage

>>723593152
I think maybe it was technology from the geth and sovereign that may have pushed the supposed innovation you see for different gun models in 2 and 3, at least that would be a good excuse

>>723593598
>2030
>bioware gets shut down due to poor sales

>>723593751
>No it doesn't,
https://youtu.be/Lg-Ctg6k_Ao?t=43
Unless the perspective is fucked up, it's entire back side is blown out.

The teaser came out in December 2020, what are you all yapping about with this 2019 nonsense

>>723593598
>>10 years to go from teaser to actual game release
What are they actually doing nowadays in those timeframes?

>>723593916
>2030
Montreal was closed 3 days after Andromeda launched. It is quite gracious of you to think that EA would wait for 2030 before they closed Bioware down. Unless the game launched on December 29th.

>>723593390
Relays don't make Mass Effect what it is, especially if you remember how different were the first relay versions in the concept art for 1.
Items, oddities and even people that constitute an era are exactly that and nothing else. They merely make an era to which some people always try to reduce life to.
Shepard is monumental in that he/she is meant to destroy an old era, pushing a new one in its place. That is the entire point of the series, and the only logical outcome, that everything is in motion.
To make a new game in the setting, one simply needs to understand its quintessense.
It seems that's not easy even for OG Bioware, seeing as how they turned out. Then again they had some sort of shitshow in their company, so who knows. All concept art books about the series are incredibly dodgy.

>>723593936
Probably perspective, the 'fog' masks the prongs too. It's also not stated which relay it is, might be a literal who one or what's most likely, it's not a specific relay but just a representation of 'em to play at the same time as the Reaper horn

>>723573995 (OP)
Mirandass. No choice in the matter.
For the love of god... Let me travel through an accurate depiction of a black hole even horizon in Mass Effect 4.

>>723574236
There's no way this is from the game.

>>723573995 (OP)
I prefer Miranda because Jack has tattoos all over her body. Also she's bald in 2 and has a shitty hairstyle in 3.

>>723594073
how does anyone get anywhere after the final battle? are they all just stuck in cosmos since relays are destroyed?

>>723594073
>Relays don't make Mass Effect what it is
it does actually- FTL drives can't take you that far at all- the relays shrink the actual 'universe' down to size, mass effect isn't about exploring the galaxy like star trek but dealing with a much smaller neighbourhood of pre-explored regions of space. The council doesn't even let species open dormant relays because the last time they did, the rachni started pouring iin
it's what makes the game very unique
but then again nobody gives a shit about the lore so you're probably right

>>723593985
Well, half the people that were working on the new game left, the ones remaining on it, meandered until 2023, in 2023 they were moved to Veilguard, in 2024 they were mostly relocated to other studios, the ones that were left were put to work on Battlefield, and the few that are still on ME, were having meetings about cupcakes, muffins and pancakes all the way until May, when Bioware Edmonton was officially turned into EA Edmonton. Recently they got some money to hire people again, but the group is maybe 20 people, and that may be aiming too high. Oh, yeah, also, after the restructure in May, the game got rebooted and nobody know what's going on since. I mean, not even the people at Bioware have decided what they are doing.

>>723594189
He's the Shepard obsessed schizo, his posts rarely make sense

>>723594189
nta but that was my understanding

>>723594159
Anon, I want you to know that there was a time when Bioware was BASED!

>>723594310
what is nta?

>>723594310
But you see Wrex and Grunt back in Tuchanka

>>723594343
niggers tounge (my) anus

>>723594159
How much of an underaged faggot are you?

>>723594343
it usually stands for "not that anon"
but sometimes its >>723594382

>>723594282
take your pills man, you talk here to wrong person because i dont understand where you are even coming from

>>723594369
retcon asspull slideshow they put in as a DLC to placate fans

>>723594442
I'm not hearing an argument

>>723593768
Innovation isn't the problem, it's the opposite that is - these designs are becoming irrationally similar to each other, and alien gun designs other than the Geth don't look like they are ergonomically optimal for them.
A Turian gun made for Turians wouldn't be "let's make it look reminiscent of homogenized Turian spaceship aesthetics", especially to such an extent that all Turian guns are the same.
Admittedly they and other 3 fingered species probably have better finger and hand muscle capabilities, as well as more control precision, but it occurs to me that human ergonomics, while serviceable, aren't wholly ideal for them.

>>723594073
The series is literally called mass effect, they are what makes the setting possible. If you make a game without them you can maybe squeeze a "everyone is stranded and must learn to live on whatever planet/system they ended up in" otherwise it will just be another generic SF game. Replacing the relays with a different mode of transportation would only invalidate the previous games

>>723593460
>>723593720
Technically Asari are a Reaper doomsday device!

>>723594442
>don't trust the ending that's existed for 13 years and 4 months, trust the ending that existed for 3 months and 20 days!

>>723594581
What story is there left to tell for a major game or another trilogy? You cant raise the stakes to be even remotely near to what the reapers were

>>723594424
>you talk here to wrong person
hello saar

>>723594671
>>723594475
okay- so tell me, how did they rebuild the relays? was this explained in the powerpoint presentation?

>>723594742
I'm still not hearing an argument

Dyke looking women that want to get cummed inside and have kids are the best, that's why Karlach is also waifu.

>>723594073
>>Relays don't make Mass Effect what it is
While that is true, the relays are integral to how the setting works. At least, the society of ME as we know it. Now, you can have the Relays repaired soon after and be like nothing happened at all, or you can have them be irrepairable and sow the technological need to move past eezo powered FTL to something new, that doesn't operate the same way as the Eezo core. Because if you can have something that works with eezo and operates like a relay, congratulations, you made a relay, which is a roundabout way of making the thing you destroyed, but again.
But it also begs the question, if Eezo, which is 1/2 the reason why the series is called Mass Effect, is made irrelevant to the setting, is the setting even Mass Effect anymore? You can say yes, but how long has since ME3 did it take you to make it and how much has that changed the look of your setting? Likely a lot, likely drastically. Even the Citadel was destroyed, and it is unlikely to be repaired. So all you have that makes "Mass Effect" are maybe Krogan/Quarians/Geth, maybe not, Turians, Asari, and Salarians. Which makes "Mass Effect" incredibly small compared to what it used to be.

>>723594717
premise: shepherd and his waifu/husbando settle into their new life at shepher's citadel apartment, a sort of harvest moon-type simulator where the biggest stake is hosting a dinner party or deciding what to name your child

such a great franchise.

>>723594073
You're crazy (read: dumb) if you believe Shepard is more important to the ME setting than mass effect relays. It's kind of in the title. Shepard's story is done, he could and should not appear in ME4 and the game would be all the better for it.

>>723594841
*trilogy
andromeda was shit

>>723594643
I get the reference, but the lol so randumb xD humor never impressed me.

>>723594926
i mean more about the universe itself and its characters and shit, but yeah, andromeda barely resembles mass effect anyway.

>>723594926
People don't even remember that one exists.

>>723594925
>>723594926
Shepard's story MADE mass effect, all the media outside of the game was related to shepard or characters shepard interacted with anyway, the two things were kind of tied together. It's a neat setting, but considering how much Bioware flopped with andromeda it's pretty over for it without more Shepard

>>723594925
>Shepard's story is done
lol, this is how you lose your audience and go bankrupt. ME without Shep is a hard sell and bioware cant afford any flops going forward

>>723594972
Welcome to the internet

>>723595060
i would take a shepard grandson or some shit. as long as there is connection to the original shep i'm fine.

>>723594424
I want you to read >>723595026 and >>723595060 and come back to me. I told you: every thread, like a bot.

>>723594581
You have an insufferably ridiculous notion of what a "setting" is, especially a sci-fi one, with pretenses of being alive.
You do not exist in a "setting" or a "game" that must be acausally compliant and set in stone on all matters until it becomes an self-skinsuit, a farcical assembly of systems.
You exist in life of chaos.
And Mass Effect, like most all fictional universes worthy of consideration and being allowed to live is exactly like our reality in that sense.
Eezo didn't vanish, and neither does the entire galaxy.
But eezo and eezo tech may be given a boot, partially or fully, precisely because it was invented by the Reapers.
But regardless of whether or not it will be gone does not mean that theoretical physics are gone.

What you try to hold on to, or rather, what you want to restrain in place is as gone as the fun early 1900s, 1960s or the USSR. All eras pass bar those that don't.

>>723573995 (OP)
Maybe Im just asexual, but I'd rather kill bad guys with Garrus.

>>723594717
>>What story is there left to tell for a major game or another trilogy?
Technically, you can take any timeskip and build a new threat up, with a big reveal at the end of the game, which puts it in the galactic scale, much like ME1 does. And from there you can take any manner of years, games, characters and protagonists fighting against galactic level shenanigans started by this greater force. The issue starts with selling that first game.

Or you can make a game about the power struggles in the Milky Way, the day after the Reapers got obliterated. But that requires Bioware setting a hard canon, and having the players go through it, which is more work than anyone at Bioware wants to do, or EA is willing to pay.

>>723594925
Shepard is a messianic character, you silly goose. Messiahs typically have people they shep-hard, hehheh.

>>723594742
nta, but it isn't.

>>723594778
I mean, he is right. It took the Milky Way two years with a working economy, relay system, and the resources of council space to not fix Tayseri Ward on the Citadel. How the fuck are they going to fix the Relays without at least MacGyver?

>>723595375
You like to savor your headshots before popping a heatsink?

>>723595517
Always

>>723595498
The protheans built a mini-mass relay in the Ilos Conduit. This cycle built the giant ass Crucible. It can be done.

So, to sum up the thread:
>ME2 is the best game
>Tali is best girl
>thermal clips are best retcon
>total batarian death
>Liara is a fat rapist cunt

>>723595378
No anon, you cannot tell any story using the galaxy just as a setting and coming up with whatever cool new characters and scenarios you wish to. Don't you know Star Wars has *only* ever told stories about the Skywalkers?

>>723583707

She was canonically gang-raped by Batarians

So no, she's used goods forever

Anyone who romances her is getting sloppy thirteenths and is a cuckold

>>723595730
Not even close

>>723595663
Also, necessity is the mother of invention. You can bet your ass every scientist in the galaxy would immediately start working on getting them ready, especially if the only damage they sustained was to the inner rings as seen in the best possible War Assets ending.

>>723595663
Also, necessity is the mother of invention. You can bet your ass every scientist in the galaxy would immediately start working on getting them ready, especially if the only damage they sustained was to the inner rings as seen in the best possible War Assets ending.

>>723595829
>>723595842
>double posts of truth
bvsed

>>723586313
facts

>>723595829
>>723595842
4chan pass mfs

>>723592910
>Former whores are on par with virgins in terms of faithfulness in marriage.

>>723595957
Pass only cuts it down to 30 seconds. That's probably him accidentally posting a normal post with his botnet instead of a Threat Interactive shill post.

>>723594925
It isn't that Shepard is bigger than the IP, it isn't that no ME game can be made that doesn't involve Shepard, or a character related to Shepard, although Bioware is set to turn Liara into Gandalf the Blue and insert her everywhere.
The issue is that Bioware has consistently, failed to introduce long lasting casts and protagonists, to carry their own game, let alone a sequel, although all they really need to do is carry one game to the next. Hawke and co, failed to carry DA, Inquisitor and co. failed to carry DA:I, uh ... what was the Andromeda guy called? I forgot him. He failed to carry ME:A, Anthem guy failed to carry Anthem, trannyguard failed to carry DA:tV.

You may ask, well, why is that in any way important? If the gameplay is good and the story is good, people will buy and play it, right? You see, if Bioware is known for making character centered games, the characters need to be good, they are what carry the games in between, see how the OT cast has carried ME for so long. If I hate everyone, which has a good chance of happening in a modern Bioware game, how am I supposed to play this?

People know Shepard and the crew, and they are a welcome fall back, in an occasion where the audience is trained to not like new Bioware protagonists, which by now, after all these failures, it is. Like we said above, it's not that we can't have other characters and protagonists, but this one time, Shepard might be ME's salvation.

>>723573995 (OP)
>Jack
>or a man-jawed, buck toothed fivehead

>>723595218
I don't think that's gonna save the franchise, to be honest.

>>723595736
I've always thought they could set an entire game just within the Citadel

>>723596049
That sounds utterly ridiculous, not to mention thoroughly retarded. You're the fake fan the member berries are made for.

>>723595218
Shepard's grandsons are all in environmental suits and you wouldn't see their faces.

>>723594831
Precisely, as "you" know it. But what you "know" isn't what it is. A society is just a society, a construction that may or may not pass in time.
There doubtlessly will be those who are happy with galactic hard reset, and all that implies.

With that in mind, the major forces of the galaxy already know that the relays can be created, the proof of concept is all they need.
Ilos relay research is unlikely to be useless. ODSY was invented, naturally, because it's a very logical evolution of eezo FTL systems.
Some advances in biotics shall follow since Javik exists,
They will repair relays eventually, or make alternatives.
>But it also begs the question, if Eezo, which is 1/2 the reason why the series is called Mass Effect, is made irrelevant to the setting, is the setting even Mass Effect anymore?
Yes. Mass Effect is the name of an era. That era didn't wholly pass, it just turned a new page.
Mass Effect is also a name of a concept not pertinent to the series, because the Mass Effect is not actually about eezo tech. That is simply a stated premise, an official story if you will.
Halo isn't about the rings, too.

>>723596247
wait, are you implying...

>>723594010
I mean, all bets are off now that the Saudis are in charge.
Like, it was already super baffling that EA didn't take Bioware behind the barn and had it shot, because in 11 years they released three games and they all flopped.
I heard the Saudis are pretty hands off with their admiration, but my guess is that at least faggotry is on its way out

>>723596049
>It isn't that Shepard is bigger than the IP, it isn't that no ME game can be made that doesn't involve Shepard, or a character related to Shepard
KOTOR2 is an obvious solution. Impossible to make nowadays, but a story about exploring the galaxy and the consequences of Shepard's actions could've been an excellent way to tie all in.

>>723596059
>>or a man-jawed, buck toothed fivehead
Without any bait, do you people seriously find this woman ugly?

ME1 was super comfy

>>723596247
>>723596321
SHEPARD FRICKED THESE GUYS?

>>723596445
That's not Miranda, and implying Miranda isn't a disgusting bastardization of Yvonne is a symptom of blindness at best, or being a pathological liar at worst.

>>723595736
It was for a very long time, yes. But Star Wars was built up and was able to tell stories not exclusive to the Skywalkers. And then Disney took a shit on the Skywalkers and the franchise died, and now you can't sell Star Wars at all. Except to maybe conclude Respawn's trilogy. Well, practically, you still can make any Star Wars story, it's just that it's going to flop. Similarly, I think we are at a point that, if it isn't a Shepard game, the next ME is going to automatically be a flop. But it's the one game Bioware can't make, so ... good luck to all at Bioware, I might drop by the unemployment line to give you some beer money.

>>723596428
god point

>>723596514
DELET THIS
END OF RINE

>>723596523
>But Star Wars was built up and was able to tell stories not exclusive to the Skywalkers
And Mass Effect has been telling stories not exclusive to Shepard since before ME1 came out

>>723595663
They have no resources, anon. A great number of the galactic population is dead. How are they going to do it? No manpower, no resources.

>>723596518
I mean, she's the closest that 7th gen graphics could do of Yvonne
If she's not attractive than how can any of the other women be, since they also have faces based on real life women

>>723596049
>It isn't that Shepard is bigger than the IP, it isn't that no ME game can be made that doesn't involve Shepard, or a character related to Shepard
That's stupid as fuck and you sound gay.

>>723596428
Kotor 2 not following Revan is actually one of it's worse things it does, but that's because it was a direct sequel.
And ME thing exploring the legacy and consequence of Shepherd would be pretty cool™

>>723588069
Are the names randomly generated?

>>723596737
It's literally true
Even Halo managed to get out of Master Chief's shadow and make a good and successful game without him
ME has nothing

consequences of shepard potentially doing a genocide by destroying synthetics at the end of ME3.

>>723596193
>You're the fake fan the member berries are made for.
Well, if I had to ask, would you take Trannyguard 2 cast, or the ME1 cast, who would you take? And would Trannyguard 2, in case you do pick them, not influence your game experience in a negative way? And if it is expected to influence it in a negative way, would you not think that many ME fans would choose not to buy the game at all?

>>723596445
Anon, this looks way better than what's in the game and you know it
They always do their models dirty

>>723596049
>"the solution to have a good new ME isn't to have a good new ME but to have the same shitty writers as always writing Shepard so I can clap, that's gonna be a "welcome fall back"!
If I had you in front of me I would slap you

>>723596827
Reach was still well within Master Chief's shadow

>>723573995 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z--ic2lQzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPWs5xdAIRQ

>>723596852
Neither you colossal fucking tranny, I'm not gonna jump into your logical fallacy nonsense. If you have good writers, you can make a new crew be as beloved as the old crew. If you don't have good writers, I don't want them anywhere near Shepard. In either case, the result is the exact same: Shepard should not come back, and I cannot believe the random dude dozens of post above that warned of a Shepard schizo was actually serious.

>>723596285
>>Precisely, as "you" know it. But what you "know" isn't what it is. A society is just a society, a construction that may or may not pass in time.
>There doubtlessly will be those who are happy with galactic hard reset, and all that implies.
But you'd have to do away with the entire Syd Mead aesthetic. After, say 600 years, nothing will look like ME1-3. An issue that Andromeda had as well.

>With that in mind, the major forces of the galaxy already know that the relays can be created, the proof of concept is all they need.
But they don't have one.

>Ilos relay research is unlikely to be useless. ODSY was invented, naturally, because it's a very logical evolution of eezo FTL systems.
All this is speculation, and partly wishful thinking. I would be as opposed to it, as I am to putting the reaper doomsday device on mars and jury rigging 3 relays to use them as telescopes. Not good ideas, in my opinion.

>They will repair relays eventually, or make alternatives
Making alternatives would require possibly going past eezo, which was ultimately the point of destroying the relays, narratively, to develop past what the Reapers had designated. Which is a bad idea again.

>Yes. Mass Effect is the name of an era. That era didn't wholly pass, it just turned a new page.
Up for interpretation.

>Mass Effect is also a name of a concept not pertinent to the series
Well you can't name Dark Sun out of a blue moon. The other reason is Meta.

>Halo isn't about the rings, too
Do I ... do I need to say just how dead Halo is? Maybe that is an issue. But one that also can't be solved by "there's been a second Halo". I don't know enough about Halo, because it's dead.

>>723588617
It's a lot more bullshit than that, Tali and Mordin can just die randomly with you bring them to fight the reaper
The real baffling game which people seem retarded about obvious choices is W3, like all the chocies with Ciri are just about being a nice guy and a good dad and imbeciles still failed

you retards better stop fighting on my thread.

trilogy is on sale for $5 on psstore. i couldn't resist

Why no custom maleSheps?

>>723596873
I know it does, but so do all the other women

>>723596323
Faggotry won't be out of the next ME, it just won't release in Islamic countries, much like DA:tV.
Bioware will keep working on it, and EA will keep giving them money until it releases. They also have that movie deal, so they may be obligated to keep the franchise in development. Unless the TV show tanks and takes them along with it.

>>723573995 (OP)
miranda's romance fucking sucks ass

jack's is S tier

the choice is clear

>>723596552
Shepard. If you're seeing this, then I'm dead. But our work is never over.
I know we've had our disagreements, but I all I've ever wanted is an assured future for humanity.
I have one last mission for you. I'm confident you'll enjoy it.

Despite their decreased population numbers compared to other remaining Milky Way species, surviving Batarians will still be responsible for over half of the violent felonies in post-Reaper War galactic space.

The path forward is clear: kill batarians, behead batarians, roundhouse kick a batarian into the concrete, slam dunk a batarian baby into the trash can, crucify filthy batarians, remove batarian eyes, launch batarians into Geth space, stir fry batarians in a wok, toss batarians into active volcanoes, throw batarians into a wood chipper, twist batarians heads off, report batarians to the Specters, karate chop batarians in half, curbstomp pregnant batarians women, trap batarians on Tuchanka, crush batarians in the trash compactor, liquify batarians in a vat of acid, send the Collectors after batarians, stomp batarians skulls with titanium toed boots, mandatory abortions for batarians, grind batarians foetuses in the garbage disposal, drown batarians in fried chicken grease, vaporise batarians with biotics, kick all batarians down the stairs, feed batarians to krogan, slice batarians with an omniblade.

Get it done, Shepard.

>>723596428
>but a story about exploring the galaxy and the consequences of Shepard's actions
Depends how you go about it. 600 years later, none of it will matter much. 50 years later none of it will matter much. I think most people will want to live through them, and do it through Shepard. Otherwise, reading datapads and hearing audio logs, eh, loses its luster. Like, I can watch someone play it on twitch and get the same experience.

>>723574171
>altgirl fixation
That was in like 12 years ago

Is Andromeda playable?

>>723596610
>>And Mass Effect has been telling stories not exclusive to Shepard since before ME1 came out
I mean, the books are all awful, and nobody read them. The Star Wars books sold millions. It's not the same. Again, it's not that you can't do it with ME, but it's gonna flop. If I were at Bioware, I don't wanna make a flop.

>>723597604
>are all
proof?

>>723597604
>the books are all awful
Wrong
>and nobody read them
Also wrong
>It's not the same
You wish that was the case so your argument had some ground, but it isn't
>it's not that you can't do it
Then do it
>but it's gonna flop
Market it well, it's their whole fucking job
>If I were at Bioware, I don't wanna make a flop
Should've thought about it at some point in the last 11 years

>>723596737
What's stupid about it? I say a great deal more in that post, regarding what I think Bioware should do in the next game, that isn't fully represented by what you quoted.

>>723592219
Looks like sneako trooned out here

>>723597604
>If I were at Bioware
You're sure shilling for them as if you were

>>723593720
Technically, they are too. They reproduce sexually and possess all the qualitites of females. Further they are referred to as all monogendered, all female species. Terms differentiating genders not having much meaning for them does not change that. Though for that to have happened to begin with all of Thessia's other species would have had to have been mono-gendered as well which is unlikely.

>>723592219
That perspective makes her look like she has a really small body with a huge head

>>723597215
>But you'd have to do away with the entire Syd Mead aesthetic. After, say 600 years, nothing will look like ME1-3. An issue that Andromeda had as well.
Not necessarily. Asari alone act as a sort of aesthetical anchor. If we can return to some aesthetics after kids discover cool old stuff, so can they.
>But they don't have one.
Of-course they do. It's reasonable to expect that everyone knows about Reapers by that point, and even if military R&D had no backup data on Ilos, they've built the Crucible.
And they've won. There's more than enough data for them to both make relays, or make do without relays altogether.
>Do I ... do I need to say just how dead Halo is? Maybe that is an issue. But one that also can't be solved by "there's been a second Halo". I don't know enough about Halo
>because it's dead.
It always is. Halo is about eternal cycles and IRL schizo occult. It always is, nothing to worry about.

>>723597119
>>Neither you colossal fucking tranny, I'm not gonna jump into your logical fallacy nonsense
A pattern isn't a logical fallacy. If Bioware, by some miracle doesn't make Trannyguard characters, that will be an outlier. They've been giving them to you, since DA2, 14 years now.

>If you have good writers, you can make a new crew be as beloved as the old crew.
But you also need to design characters that you will look upon and want to interact with them. If you bring me Peebee, Taash, Neve and Bellara, I don't want to have anything to do with them. So how am I even going to know if they are good people? I'm already put off by how they look. It's the Saint's Row reboot deal. It's the Veilguard deal.

>If you don't have good writers, I don't want them anywhere near Shepard.
Just ignore the new game. Problem solved.

>In either case, the result is the exact same: Shepard should not come back
But how are you going to sell the game?

>>723597604
There's already been stories set in the ME universe with Anderson, Grayson, Jacob, Vega, Ezno and others as main protagonists with Shepard nowhere to be seen. You not knowing about them doesn't change that.

>>723597241
ToT
After seeing hot webms in Trek thread I've realized I need AI Miri webms! Post Miri!

>>723582506
Her face model is.

>>723598097
Ignoring every other outcome to push your retarded view is the very definition of a fallacy, yes.
>you also need to design characters that you will look upon and want to interact with them
Then do it. If you can, you can make a new crew be as beloved as the old crew. If you cannot, I don't you near Shepard.
>Just ignore the new game
I'd rather shit on your awful taste for wanting to clap by seeing Shepard on screen no matter the cost.
>how are you going to sell the game?
Make a good game. If you can, it'll sell by itself. If you cannot, don't bring Shepard back. Starting to see a pattern?

>>723596971
Alright, anon. You want Bioware, with shitty writers, and shitty character designers, to make you a new cast that will kill the franchise. Am I getting this right?

>>723597328
Because the moment you change anything, the face goes to shit.

>>723598269
Needs more Beverly.

>>723598443
How so?

>>723597679
Do you know what happened in them?

Tali should have been spaced.

>>723598172
>Ezno
Randarr Ezno, in da fresh!

>>723598354
Alright, anon. You want Bioware, with shitty writers, and shitty character designers, to bring Shepard and crew back to be The Last Jedi'd. Am I getting this right?

>>723598506
What a shame...
*smacks lips* He was a good man... what a rotten way to die

>>723597751
>Wrong
Not wrong.

>Also wrong
How many copies have they sold, anon?

>>You wish that was the case so your argument had some ground, but it isn't
People bought and talked about the Thrawn trilogy, Dark Empire, the Yuuzan Vong books etc.
Nobody talks about the ME books. Nobody cares about them, because it's about Anderson fucking Kahlee, an autistic girl that wants to kill TIM and Kai Leng peeing in potted plants. They're not good.

>Market it well, it's their whole fucking job
You can't market worth a shit the moment the Bioware logo shows up. If you put LJN's rainbow of shit, it'd sell better than Bioware, for the memes at least.

>Should've thought about it at some point in the last 11 years
Agreed.

>>723597864
>Say that Bioware can't sell anything worth a shit
>You're shilling
Anon ...

>>723597918
But that would require them to have experience with what being anything other than asari is. Asari are Asari and that's all they know to be. Unless they got brainwashed by the Alpha Varren they mind melded with, or some shit like that. Which is a mental disorder, in that case.

>>723598510
Somehow Harbinger has returned...

>>723598719
>Not wrong
Most definitely is. You haven't read them, and you have no excuse given Revelation doesn't have any sequels and stands alone and is relatively short and action packed
>How many copies have they sold, anon?
Look it up if you care so much
>Nobody talks about the ME books
We're talking about them right now
>You can't market worth a shit
Sounds like you're bad at your job
>Agreed
Then I'll accept the concession and leave you with the voices inside your head

>>723597921
She is kinda crouching and squatting.

>>723597950
>Not necessarily. Asari alone act as a sort of aesthetical anchor. If we can return to some aesthetics after kids discover cool old stuff, so can they.
That's unlikely. First, it would require for all architecture in ME to be asari influenced to begin with. Now, they don't even have the Citadel to them to rebuild, in order to exact some soft power. Furthermore, the destruction of Thessia will mean a great loss of power for the Asari, both in terms of economy and culture, but also of the prothean technology troves that were also lost. Also, we don't make architecture like we did 600 years ago.

>>723597950
>Of-course they do. It's reasonable to expect that everyone knows about Reapers by that point, and even if military R&D had no backup data on Ilos, they've built the Crucible.
I don't see how that's relevant.
>And they've won. There's more than enough data for them to both make relays, or make do without relays altogether.
I don't know if there is. I hope Bioware doesn't go the route of "we always knew, we just never told you" again. It's getting to be a very cheap excuse if you use it for everything. Like, why did you need me to begin with, if you all knew exactly what the fuck you were doing. Why are we even playing the games?

>>723598172
I've already said that. The stories were bad. Nobody read them. You're just asking for another story that will flop. That's all I'm reading.

>>723598285
There's nowhere in Yvonne Strahovski's bio anything about being jewish.

>>723599430
>I've already said that
Well you were wrong before and you're wrong again, bitch. What now.

>>723599319
>I don't see how that's relevant.
It's directly relevant in intersecting theorical physics. Crucible is a massive project, they can milk it for decades.

>>723598319
>>Ignoring every other outcome to push your retarded view is the very definition of a fallacy, yes.
What other outcome has there been in 15 years? Why didn't they do it, 15 years ago?

>Then do it. If you can, you can make a new crew be as beloved as the old crew.
Just make perfection. Make a new cast that carries your franchise for 15 years. How hard can it be? You have no idea what you are asking, anon.

>I'd rather shit on your awful taste for wanting to clap by seeing Shepard on screen no matter the cost.
That's projection. I'm trying to give good business advice. Bioware are just not going to outdo the OT cast, there's less than 0 chance of doing it. But they can do something that allows them an out. That's all I am saying.

>Make a good game. If you can, it'll sell by itself. If you cannot, don't bring Shepard back. Starting to see a pattern?
OK, so you have no budget, you can't get good writers, you can't get good developers, because you are Bioware and no longer have a name in the industry. Just make a 9/10 game. Is that your final piece of advice?

>>723598489
Because all the procedural face textures are vastly inferior to those of default Shepard.

>>723599750
uoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

>>723599767
>What other outcome
Ones where people making games are retards, or they're retards only with their own creations and not the destruction of the past
>Just make perfection
None of the Shepard games were perfection incarnate
>I'm trying to give good business advice
The same business advice that created Anthem and made Dreadwolf almost be a live service game
>OK, so you have no budget
But ME4 has a budget and has been in development for at least five years? The rest sounds like their issue

>>723598510
You don't have to redesign Shepard and the crew. They already look a certain way. That instantly makes everyone want to interact with them.
Bioware will make another 6/10 game, and it's going to be mid. Because that's all that Bioware can do, because that's all they've been doing since 2011. But as a business decision, it will keep the lights on, and it might earn them some good will toward the next one, to hire better people, to make something better. It's either this, or the end, anon. Pick your poison.

>>723598934
>Look it up if you care so much
I accept your concession, anon.

>>723599567
Showing a game nobody played, isn't saving your argument, anon.

>>723600012
>It's either this, or the end
I'll take the end, thank you very much. Keep Shepard out of your jewish hands.

>>723599578
>Crucible is a massive project, they can milk it for decades.
They're out of Reapers and Relays, though. What are they going to milk out of it?

>>723600156
>nobody
Sounds like a (You) issue, secondary.

>>723599983
>>But ME4 has a budget and has been in development for at least five years? The rest sounds like their issue
Anon, there is no game. They had management meeting that they logged for hours to debate pancakes. It's on Mike Gamble's twitter! There's nothing. And as of May, they rebooted the nothing, so there's less than nothing.

>>723600163
Take the end then, that's all there is to this conversation.

>>723600274
(you) are nobody, anon.
Unless you can buy 5 million copies of it.

>>723600494
And (You)'re somehow even lesser, think about that.

I only play on casual/story.

>>723600564
I never said otherwise.

>>723600213
>They're out of Reapers and Relays, though.
They have enough, especially Reaper corpses, complete with massive eezo cores. And relay eezo cores, too.
What are they going to milk out of it?
Knowledge, of-course. It is more important

>>723600364
Ah, there's the same schizo from posts like >>722610156 and >>723186517! You never disappoint.

>>723573995 (OP)
Jack. Miranda is boring and I don't like her face.

>press F for seks

>>723600665
>Stating facts makes you schizo
You wouldn't happen to be Hasan Piker, would you?

>>723600734
>starts talking about turkroach politics out of the blue
I don't shock my dogs for views on stream, no. You on the other hand should be less obvious with your schizophrenia ITTs. I'll accept the concession.

>>723600936
You still haven't said why stating facts is bad.