Thread 723593254

Can you imagine if pokemon had actual textures instead of being made from plastic?

Ever since I was a child in the late 90's, what I wanted was a pokemon game that looked and felt like the anime. If they could nail this aesthetic in 3D, it would be a dream come true.

They did in PLA and SV (basically)
They just keep going back and forth

lucario stepping on my face

>>723593254 (OP)
Literally one of the very few things SV did right, and of course it's gone from the next game

>>723593254 (OP)
They don't have the resources.

people would hate it because they hate everything

>>723598738
Please understand. Those resources are devoted to constantly rendering the entire city, which is a single model that's never unloaded. Also, you can't enter most of the buildings even if the entire map is this city.

Everyone hated the "realistic" fur and scale textures of the Detective Pikachu movie, so yes, I CAN imagine it. It won't go as well as you think it would.

>>723593254 (OP)
Lucario is my wife.

>>723599385
actual textures =/= bad realistic textures. could in fact be stylized like anime sic >>723593382

>>723599385
The movie used those grotesque deviantart HIRE THIS MAN designs
Something like Pokken just gives the existing designs a bit of texture

>>723599362
>Only buildings that can be entered are plot relevant hubs like the hotel or detective agency
>Every cafe and boutique is a 2D menu
>Buildings are walls with repeating textures slapped on
>Somehow this game had the longest development cycle of the Switch era

>>723599385
Scat and Vomit had realistic textures and they were great

>>723600105
WAIT A MINUTE they had modeled in balconies and windows in S/V wtf happened why are people excusing this shit atp it's just embarrassing

>>723599385
I think the Mewtwo movie remake did it right, although nobody noticed because the nightmare fuel redesigns of the human characters put them off of watching it.

>>723593382
pretty sure after this anime we all died and thats why everything now feels weird and unfulfilling, like the second death or something is happening and nobody realizes

>>723593254 (OP)
>can you imagine if these cartoon creatures had tacky nonsensical realistic textures slapped on them?
I don't want to

>>723600846
prease understand

>>723599621
>The movie used those grotesque deviantart HIRE THIS MAN designs
I remember arguing with people who were actually shilling for those designs when the movie first came out and were insisting they weren't abominations. They had to have been paid by the studio, because nobody with functioning eyes could stand looking at that shit. Then again, normalfags do still pretend that the redesigned movie Sonic was "so much better" and not still an ugly insult to the original, so you never know.

>>723601086
They're not capable of making the anime artstyle work in 3D, it's a very hard process that most companies still fuck up. These pokemon look like plastic toys rather than cartoons

>>723593382
Actual anime can't even do this aesthetic anymore, it's over, man.

Join the Digimon club

>>723602234
Movie Sonic IS "so much better" compared to the design they were originally trying to use
But it is still ugly and weirdly proportioned compared to normal Sonic

>>723603024
That's my point. People should have kept piling on the criticism and mockery until they were forced to switch all the way back to real Sonic.

>>723599812
>>Every cafe and boutique is a 2D menu
This is the most baffling one for me, even copy pasting the same room for all stores would already be unbelievably lazy, and they couldn't even be arsed to do that

>>723600846
They also had it for the beta of ZA, the game was probably running at 10fps so they just made everything flat textures because fuck the fans they'll buy anything anyway

>>723603521
They couldn't get the loading screen for the one room 10x10 meter shop below 30 seconds even on the Switch 2 so they just cut all of them and made them menus instead

>>723603521
Frankly as it is I'm not sure I'd even want them to be buildings. It's already annoying as fuck to check the shops since they wanted these long shopping streets with a bunch of clothing stores, but there's barely any clothes so you have to run between shops to look at like 3 different items. There's not even that many unique clothes so most of them are recolors.

>>723601625
>2022
Try 2013

>>723604116
holy fucking shit lmfao

>>723602621
This is how it should look but we're not gonna get there

>>723602621
>They're not capable of making the anime artstyle work in 3D,
every 3D pokemon game before SV suggests otherwise

>>723605000
Those don't really have an anime artstyle

What would gardegrippers feel like?

>>723601625
>>723604116
it was still ultra lazy back in 2022/2013 as most modern games have mini 3d space in behind that window that give illusion of depth

>>723602621
And yet Digimon or Palworld had no problem making their characters look great. Environment are also vastly superior to pokeslop

>>723609046
Palworld doesn't look good you fucking liar. They have plastic monsters with UE5 environments

>>723609203
>with UE5 environments
That's what people think looks good tho, just see everyone going "so that's GF's power when not limited by Nintendo" after that UE slop with frame drops on the trailer that they revealed

>>723609393
The problem isn't the environment but how it clashes with the monsters and characters, it makes them look out of place

>>723609203
which is 100x better looking than Z-A

>>723593254 (OP)
Yea pokken was cool as fuck and they did an absolutely amazing job bring the pokemon to life and adapting their moves sets. And of course no ones buys it because its a fucking fighting game

>>723599621
Why isn't there another Detctive movie
I liked the designs and it was a decent watch

Somehow, Sonic started after Detective and got 2 more sequels, probably a 4th one before Detective gets another

>>723609552
It really isn't. Hotel Z's interior mogs anything palworld.

>>723598738
>>723599362
>>723599812
>>723603521
>>723603621
>>723604031
I just want to let you all know that Nintendo told Gamefreak to outsource their game to other companies like Square and GF told them no.

>>723610394
delusional and copium pilled

>>723593382
>>723599559
>If they could nail this aesthetic in 3D,
Too much effort for a poor small indie company like Game Freak, who can't even keep the lights on with so little money that Pokémon makes.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND!!!

>>723610534
Of course Game Freak will say "no."
The moment a company emerges that shows it can make Pokémon better, both Nintendo and TPC (which each own 1/3 of the franchise) will force Game Freak to sell its stake to them and kick them out, and without Pokémon, Game Freak is over.
There was a reason Game Freak was so scared shitless of Pokémon Go that they created the Let's Go games.

>>723593254 (OP)
The games would have to be developed by not Game Freak for that to happen.

>>723599467
You are a very lucky man.

>>723593254 (OP)
>being made from plastic?
To me that's every graphicwhore game, not just shitty nuGF games tbqh That shitty Unreal 5 engine meme looks like plastic unless heavy work is done by devs

>>723610889
That's a boy

>>723599467
your wife has a name like a mexican gentleman

>>723593254 (OP)
Why do people start caring about fidelity as soon as it's Nintendo?
Everything else, people say fidelity doesn't matter, art style does

>>723612162
Don't hide behind Nintendo. We're talking about an incoherent artstyle where monsters and characters clash with the environments

>>723612379
>We're talking about
That's not what OP said

>>723612162
Your average Nintendo game looks leagues better than Pokemon does.

>>723612493
Doesn't change the sentiment put forth

>>723612439
Textures don't means fidelity, theoretically they could try 3D anime artstyle but we know they're to incompetent to do it. The look of an old Pokemon game is a more reasonable ask

>>723593254 (OP)
the game in your pic is pokemon and does, i dont get it

>>723610945
Boys don't look like that.

>>723599621
The Pokemon Company approved those designs and interviews show they were pretty protective on how Pokemon should be depicted. They wanted the film makers to stick as close as possible with the game designs hence why they cut mons like Sawk because they couldn’t figure out how to make him look like he wasn’t wearing clothes.

The film makers even had to fight for the furry pikachu because TPC didn’t want him to look fuzzy because pikachu doesn’t look furry in the games.

>>723612636
>Textures don't means fidelity
they are absolutely a part of fidelity

This is releasing on the same console early next year.

>>723614557
too bad stories gameplay is argubly the most boringest shit in the world

>>723615296
I don't understand how someone can say that still when up until the legends games, pokemon had some of the slowest animations and turns that you can't even speed up.

>>723612671
Pokeboys do though.

Texturewhores killed gayming

>>723593254 (OP)
>Watchog and Sawk watching the fight with their arms crossed

I think if I had been shown this exact screenshot when the game first released I would have bought it. That shit looks kino and soulful as heck

>>723593382
They did nail it in XY and ORAS, and ruined the series immediately after

>>723616110
yum

>>723614557
Honestly, this does look fantastic, it looks like they've gone all in on the 3rd game
But this is the PC version, not switch 2 version

>>723610652
>>723614557
>NOOOOO THESE ARTSTYLES ARE TOO GOOD FOR POKEMON!!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND: POKEMON ARTSTYLE IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE SHIT!!!!!

>>723616110
tomboy cookie tho

>>723601625
Dude, can you imagine how poorly the game would run if GameFreak managed to put more geometry into the game?

>>723593254 (OP)
this looks better than any switch 2 games.

Pokken 2 when? Bamco should just give up on Tekken 8 and make Pokken 2. It'll sell more.

>>723624029
Pokken is too good, as such, it makes Game Freak unconfortable.

>>723593254 (OP)
Can you imagine a world without furfaggots like you that made Jewtindo and Shitfreak pander to them while sacrificing the quality of video games?

>>723593254 (OP)
Textures are so 2009. Now it's all about materials.

>>723593254 (OP)
His knot visibly throb when he see human COCK

>>723600105
Did they use different models in ZA? I'd imagine the reason they look plastic is due to that constant rim light effect they have.

>>723608956
How many portable games in 2013 had that?

>>723593382
i think if they let you play as the pokemon during battles, and let you play as the trainer during everything else, itd be a lot easier to do fun, dynamic real time pokemon combat. you could pause mid-battle to switch your mon out or give them items, that way you arent hampered by trying to play both the trainer and the pokemon at once.

test

>>723593382
As much as I wouldn't touch that game with a pole, Pokémon Master SEX is the closest thing to an "anime in 3D" aesthetic done right in this franchise. It's just normal cel shading, and it's meant to be run on phones, mind you.
https://youtu.be/luSGwaQibNI?t=189

I don't know why GF insists on realism, like they did with SV, specially when they can't optimize for shit.

>>723600846
What part of SMALL INDIE COMPANY do you not understand???

>>723614557
>all this effort put into a SPIN-OFF
Pokémon needs to outsource for the love of god. ANY game company would gladly do it.

>>723615621
Pokemon turns are only slow if there’s a shitload of interactions going on, the standard play is fine

>>723624465
heh

>>723609203
Looks great

>>723607815
bags of sand

That's why pokken is goated.

>>723593254 (OP)
She's a tough cookie.

>>723628994
I wish Phox wasn't neglected.

>>723629781
Phox design was considered a blunder the time.

>>723629781
She got a mega, you'll be able to play with your bearded fake-clothing garbage wife in just two weeks

First Pokemon game I've bought since the DS games.

It's low fidelity and the cooldown system is a bit dumb, but otherwise the game is fun. Seeing how people are mischaracterizing it in these threads makes me wonder if the games I skipped were as bad as I thought.

>>723631345
>X/Y and Sword/Shield have the best player customization and solid online but there’s no real reason to play them outside their active era
>Sun/Moon games suck but cool Pokemon
>ORAS is boring
>Legends Arceus is good
>Scarlet/Violet run like shit on Switch 1 but are overall really fucking good

Pokemon community has been on a crusade since the national dex was cut in Swsh, my post is the truth

>>723631646
Yeah, I skipped Gen 6 because I tried the demo and it seemed like a huge step down from Gen 5. This game feels like what they should have been moving towards back on 3DS. I don't really think the real time battles add anything, but the speed this interface provides is a big improvement.

>>723631646
It's so fucked up that the two games with customization worth a damn are the worst games in the series.
And that the game with the best difficulty and trainers is hyper linear for no reason because the maps weren't designed that way.

>>723593254 (OP)
>>723569340

Pic related is the only time in history HD 3D anime graphics with full camera control looked good

>>723632923
Too bad the game sucked.

>>723612162
Because it’s only not okay if Nintendo does it

>>723615296
you mean pokemon, especially ZA.

>>723609046
Palword's monsters clash with the generic tech demo looking environments, style wise.

>>723632923
there are more out there than just ni no kuni though

It’d be a lot of work; pokken redesigned all of the pokemon to have slightly more realistic proportions to clash less with the realistic textures

>>723631646
>>Scarlet/Violet run like shit on Switch 1 but are overall really fucking good
easiest way to make your post be completely disregarded

>>723635202
>It's bad because... It just fucking is, okay?!?!
NTA but I was shocked that cycling my mons made the game pretty tough.

those 3d mockups based on early sugimori style are great
too bad there will never be a game like that even though its possible

>>723593254 (OP)
You want that but there are people who cry every time they do try it, when you can't please everybody it's better to just stick to tradition