Thread 723599038

wtf happened

>>723599038 (OP)
Sonic was never very popular in Japan.

>>723599038 (OP)
"hype" fueled purely by spite is meaningless

Relax, it's not a race.

>>723599038 (OP)
>wtf happened
One is Mario, and the other is Sonic.
What more do you want for an explanation?
Pretty sure Sonic racing game is doing fairly good tho.

>>723599038 (OP)
>sonic can't compete with mario
>what happened?
The same as always.

Miku isn't much of a draw

>>723599038 (OP)
Turns out the hype was just Nintendo Derangement Syndrome faggots pretending they were buying the game to 'get back' at Nintendo.

>>723599038 (OP)
autism hedgehog is not mario

>>723599392
Pretty much the opposite. I'm not playing any game that tries to hamfist weebshit in to boost sales. The crossover characters in general are almost entirely awful, but Miku is literally the Minecraft Steve of anime in terms of her obnoxious fanbase and the ruin it summons.

>>723599038 (OP)
do sonicfags really think sonic is still a meaningful rival to mario? how fucking delusional can you be?

>>723599038 (OP)
Modern sonic isn't very popular in japan, if you want to see how well a sonic thing sold, you'd have to look at western sales

>>723599038 (OP)
jappos don't care for autism rat

>>723599324
Okay, that made me chuckle. Nice one anon.

>>723599038 (OP)
Turns out alienating the users of the platform that would have actually bought the game was a bad idea. I wonder how many people even knew this game was on Switch. Being $70 ($90 for digital deluxe) didn't help. You can get it cheaper but normalfags won't know that.

>>723599991
>Turns out alienating the users of the platform that would have actually bought the game was a bad idea
How did it do that?

>>723599392
>Miku isn't much of a draw
I've seen more people treat the game as "Miku racing and also Sonic and friends are here" than actually treating it as a Sonic game. It honestly solidifies how much I hate modern Miku fans.

>>723599536
Basically this, I'm a Sonic fan but not interested in the crossover characters so skipped this one.

>>723600195
Also Miku games tend to sell better than Crossworlds did. If anything Sonic was a deterrent for Japs.

>>723599038 (OP)
Sonic was created specifically for American audiences. Japan never liked Sonic.

>>723599038 (OP)
>japanese charts
so, it can compete in other markets?

Sonic isn't popular on Japan except for the few artists that draw porn.
The only furry type characters Japan care about are Pokemon

>>723599392
unlike... sonic?

Doesn't seem like it's doing too hot in other regions either

>>723599536
>>723600195
>>723600450
Miku lost.

>>723600479
>13k peak
>3k 24 hour peak
that's way better than I expected, did this game have insane advertising or something?

>>723600641
It had some pretty good word of mouth and the Sonic franchise has had a bit of a boost ever since the 3rd movie. The game seems to be doing alright for a kart racer. It'll probably stay steady around 3,000 or so and jump up whenever new characters/tracks come up. I do feel that the price is really limiting how popular the game could really be right now.

>company makes an ad mocking Mario Kart
>it bombs
Every single fucking time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPqRue51GZ8

>>723599038 (OP)
they're comparing switch 2 only sales to mario kart world sales. most people bought this on PC

No Migu for me, fuck sega and their pricing.

>>723600976
I'm so pissed they delisted Blur. 360 copies are almost $40 now.

>>723600387
>so, it can compete in other markets?
This shitty game flopped worldwide.

$70 is a little steep for a game about Sonic driving a car

>>723600479
>$70 spinoff of a failed franchise

>>723599038 (OP)
which race is best race?
mario race or sonic race?
if they had to fight a race war... who would win?

>>723600479
>>723600641
>>723600865
>steam charts autism

>>723601009
It's not on Switch 2 yet.

>Japan hates Sonic
>Sonicfags were coping hard
>all the Sonic racing games lose 80% of their playerbase by the second month
>it's retarded to think Sonic could beat Mario

>>723600641
>that's way better than I expected

>>723601113
Kratos pre-betterfication

>>723601125
Switch 1 sales then

>>723600641
Got to be at both of Geoff's shows TGA and Summer Game Fest. Also got heavily promoted at many conventions like TGS and more.

>>723599038 (OP)
Mario is more popular than Sonic.
That's it.

>>723599038 (OP)
>japan
who gives a shit? Sonic is a western franchise

>OH NO NO NO MARIO KART IS $80
>Crossworlds is $60-$70 AND it had $20 DLC announced before release

>>723601229
Anon the Switch 1 version was the best selling version in the JP chart. By quite a wide margin as well.

Sonic & Mario were rivals back then, but now Sonic popularity is mostly America and Europe, it's like Capcom & SNK, they are now a joke and Capcom barely needs them for a new VS.

>>723599392
More like redditbob is so fucking repulsive, what were they thinking

I want it, but not $70 want it

>>723600865
>>723601279
Maybe I should give this game a try then, seems like it isn't going to automatically die. Thank you anons

>>723601406
More like what the fuck was Sega thinking of wasting the DLC slots with three Nickelodeon IPs.

>>723601390
>$20 DLC
It's $30 if you bought the game physically.

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/kZQOAqKrZzB-18ZsMUJnOA/
imagine actively searching for anti threads to post in insisting you're not mad

>Buy kart game for 70$
>Another one comes out for 70$
>Why would I buy this one for 70$
Its so fucking simple. It doesn't matter that Sonic is the better racing game. It came out first. Sonic offered nothing to tempt coming in later.

>>723601403
And yet, it was mogged by like 3 Mario games in the UK too lmaoo

>>723601401
yeah because they don't play on PC??? I guarantee the PC version sold the best worldwide lmaooo

>>723601656
we live in a sick timeline where Nintendo is so heavily rewarded for their shitty business tactics

>Mario always outsell Sonic
>Japan doesn't care much for Sonic
>the average person isn't going to buy a Sonic spinoff
>being multiplat doesn't guarantee more sales
These are objective facts.

>>723601728
>we live in a sick timeline where Nintendo is so heavily rewarded for their shitty business tactics
As opposed to all the other devs doing equally scummy and shitty things and getting away with it.

>>723599038 (OP)
Sonic was literally created to appeal to the west, it has never been popular in nip land.

>>723601728
Imagine saying this while defending a company releasing a season pass focusing on cartoon characters they couldn't even bother getting voiced. Don't be a hypocrite.

>>723600641
Despite the constant shitposters, game has done beyond well for what these games typically do.
The ingame leaderboard for online ranked shows at least 200K players, no doubt more as not everyone is going to give a shit about online.

>>723601829
where did i defend it retard

>>723601859
200k across all systems is fucking pathetic anon

>>723601728
The Galaxy ports could def be cheaper but at least Nintendo would never release some broken mess like the Sonic Colors port lol

>>723601859
>not everyone is going to give a shit about online
It's a fucking racing game
That is some crippling cope

>>723599151
Sonic is to cool for Japan

>>723601859
>s-s-some people just aren't playing online
come on dude just accept sonic racing peaked with transformed

>>723599038 (OP)
most "sold" copies of mario kart world were bundled with the console at a $30 discount.

>>723602090
>more people were willing to pay $500 for a new console to play Wahoo Kart than buy Sonic on an existing platform
Yikes.

>>723601575
If I'm looking for the Crossworlds thread and search for "sonic" this garbage thread comes up too.
If anyone is actively looking for something and insisting he's not mad it's you. You're the one going out of your way to search the image on an external archive site lmao.

>>723601859
>not everyone is going to give a shit about online
you could make this argument for Mario Kart, but Crossworlds is clearly only being bought by terminally online Sonic fags.

They counted digital sales…

>>723602259
lol I can see why you call them seethe threads
because you come in to get mad

>>723599392
More like Sonic is a deterrent for the Japanese.

>>723602259
>If I'm looking for the Crossworlds thread
Oh please. You came from there because nobody is playing and needed something to do.

>>723601656
Am I supposed to act like being the sixth best selling game is a bad thing just because there are two mario games in fifth and fourth place? No one said it was going to outsell Mario.

>>723599038 (OP)
It is not at all worth the price and Japan could not care less about Sonic. I would like to think the sheer desperation of the crossovers was a turnoff too. Good to know Miku did nothing to boost sales there.

>>723602393
ok rajesh if you say so

>>723599151
Based Japan. Sonic is gay as fuck

>>723599038 (OP)
PC pirates happened

>>723601969
It absolutely isn't, and you know it. If 200K was bad in any way the revolving Sonic racing shitpost threads we get around here would blast it for it in the OP, yet you retards never dare as it would actually give credit for it doing well.

>>723602480
>No one said it was going to outsell Mario.
Tell that to /v/.

Sega got cocky after how well the third movie did and thought they could get away with selling this shit at $70 lol.
Before they revealed the price everyone was certain that it was gonna be $40-50 tops.

>>723599038 (OP)
Japs have never liked sonic, he was literally made purely to appeal to burgers.

>>723601113
Sonic racing is more fun, but mario race will always win due to name.

>>723602192
they bought the console because they wanted the console, and a big discount on an included game bundle (essentially the only game on the console at the time) was just a good deal on top of that. a small minority of mario kart world's total sales came from $80 stand alone copies, not to mention the sonic racing game was multiplat, and statistically speaking the switch 2 is the least likely console that people are going to buy multiplats on right now given ownership rates.

>use Hatsune Miku, Spongebob, and Minecraft to shill your game
>lose to fucking Wii roms

>>723602516
it absolutely is when they had to shell out large amounts of money for the crossover characters. what, did you think they got them for free or something? there's a reason they aren't voiced, you know.

>>723602460
>You came from there because nobody is playing
see >>723598781
Why is it you lot can blatantly lie about this? And why is it that despite whatever you say, the game no one is playing is always actually MKW?

>>723602480
>sixth best selling game
The game is in 24th place, you illiterate underage.

>>723602760
>P-Please come join us!
The absolute state of Crosseyed.

>>723602480
Read the pic again, it’s 24th not sixth, in a western country no less

>>723602523
no one here seriously thought that. people just said it would be better and it is

>>723602721
>add Spongebob
>he isn't voiced and doesn't interact with the Sonic cast
>wtf why don't people want this????

That headline is actually really generous by merely mentioning that it sold less than MKW, implying it could have still done well. In reality MKW during a random week sold seven times as many copies as Crossworlds' launch week. The game flopped hard and barely even made it onto the chart.

>>723602036
And English is too cool for your third world ass.

>>723602790
>driving feels worse
>tracks are worse
>forced intermissions
>day 1 DLC
>battle passes on top of season passes
>shitty crossover characters
yeah, so much better

I wish japan cared about sonic….. :(

Since when did "Failed to outsell Mario" mean "sold poorly"? Crossworlds could have sold millions of copies and that would still be true...

>>723602992
no one cares about slopnic

>>723602892
It's weird how much of a pass this game got for the DLC practices. Pokemon Legends got way more shit for "having day one DLC" and it doesn't even have any, meanwhile Crossworlds does and no one seemed to mind.

Outside of nintendo's retardation with forcing you to do the intermissions, mk world is better in quite literally every regard compared to this game. Most of all in the track design.

>>723603112
remember, it's only bad when Nintendo does it.

>>723602892
the dlc is the only shitty stuff. its better than mario in every other way. like its not even worth listing marios flaws because there's too many. I dont even want mkw patched they should just make a new game and forget about their failed experiment

>>723602783
>P-Please come join us!
???
You're the ones that need forced cringe "/v/eekend" threads to get people to join.
Your game is dead is as dead as your threads.

>>723603157
That's the thing, Nintendo didn't even do it in this case. People just made an assumption because they announced it before launch.

>>723603218
>th-there are so many flaws
>doesn't name a single one

>>723603112
the content of the dlc was shit so no one felt like they needed to actually buy it. the only malicious thing was giving early access

>>723603246
the real kicker is that it's not even the first time that Nintendo has done that either. fucking BOTW had its season pass announced before launch.

>Boycott campaigns don't work
When will you faggots learn. Let me give you a spoiler. PLZA is next.

>>723603275
people have listed them hundreds of times before you dumb nigger

>>723603337
did you get your werehog anon?

>>723603241
See you next thread where you won't be mad about Sonic flopping.

>>723603403
Is there even a real boycott campaign for that? Pokemon fans seem to be pretty positive about the Legends spinoffs overall.

>>723603003
This ad https://youtu.be/CYOfP1a7xjc?si=99SwAa4N6I1NyMcZ mindbroke tendies so now crossworlds must fail no matter what. That's why they spout insane bullshit like that.
Like could you imagine people saying the yearly sportsball, cawadooty or gacha trash are better than X game because they sold more? Everyone would rightfully laugh at you.

>>723603530
Grummz and Asmonbald tried to get one going

>>723603530
I'm assuming anon is mistaking non pokemon fans thinking the game is bad to some sort of boycott

>>723600479
This is more of a console type game. Steam numbers aren't going to give a completely accurate picture.

>>723603597
that's right, crawl back into your hole. Maybe the next game will do better.
KEK

>>723603403
Pokefags are subhuman shit eaters
They are not even tendies. They are just pokevermin. I'm a snoy but even I can see the vast difference in quality between pokemon and any other Nintendo game. Gamefreak needs to be kyoani'ed.

Why does sonic piss off mario fans? Do they still think that rivalry is going on?

>>723599038 (OP)
Sega is a company known for making brilliant intelligent business decisions

The Werehog being a pre-order bonus that's mute sums up the entire game.

>>723603530
>Is there even a real boycott campaign for that?

>>723603667
>Fashitsu nigger talking about crawling back into a hole
Peak irony kek. If I call you tendiesnoy will you throw a meltie?

>>723603861
Having Denuvo for every of their>>723603879
games so pirates can't get them sounds like a brilliant business decision to me.

>>723603849
>Crossworlds announced
>THE MARIO KART KILLER IT'S OVER TENDIES
>game releases
>sales numbers inevitably revealed
>MARIO FANS SURE ARE BUTTHURT ALWAYS THINKING OF SONIC
Don't play revisionist.

>>723603849
>Do they still think that rivalry is going on?
Nigga don't pretend Sonicfags weren't hyping this up like it was a competition
Eat your humble pie

The melty when Sega has to admit they fucked up again is gonna be delicious

Sonic's reputation tanked in the general gaming sphere, the public doesn't really give a shit about him outside of merchandise and nostalgia for the genesis. The only people buying Sonic games are Sonic fans, the people buying Mario games like video games in general.

>>723603998
>>723604101
No one would ever believe that sonic would outsell mario, I think you guys fell for shitposting

>>723603891
Sonic flopped everywhere, not just in Japan.

>>723604137
>Mania was $20
>"Let's make Superstars $50!"
And people wonder why the Dreamcast died.

>>723599038 (OP)
For many, Sonic is associated with autism, furries and chris chan. Add to this the terrible crossover with other licences and even when they are using other Sega licences, it feels also off with Sonic's universe.

All they had to do was make it normal priced

>>723603130
I don't think I could really disagree with you, but I also think Sonic ends up being just as fun despite some issues. The main problem I have with Mario Kart is that it controls too good. You always feel like you are 100% in control and there are only a few turns tight enough that you really need to put some thought into. In contrast, Sonic with counter drifting and ability to snake makes keeping a good line feel more satisfying. I'd say that alone makes it worth playing along side Mario Kart even if the overall polish isn't as good.

>Most of all in the track design.
I do think it is hilarious that people will criticize MKW over tracks just because it has an extra 200 mediocre tracks in addition to 30 really good ones that make good use of the new mechanics. It really makes it obvious many of the people who criticizer it haven't actually played it.

>>723602872
And Sonic's English is too cool for Japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gatfU6ADKoU

>If you're somewhat niche franchise doesn't sell as much as my multibillion dollar franchise it flopped
Tendies are insane. This is one of the best selling sonic games ever. That you feel this threatened despite how "big" you are shows your patheticness.

>>723603130
what do you mean? the tracks are peak

>>723599038 (OP)
You mean to tell me Sonic is more popular overseas than Japan?

>>723601656
Barely selling less than two Mario games seems really good actually.

>>723604657
anon... sonic is in the 24th slot while the mario games are in the 4th and 5th slots

>>723604609
That image and all the others in your collection fall apart the moment you show the full screen.

>>723604754
sure buddy.

>>723604580
Sonic makes billions in licensing alone according to Sega's most recent financial report. Problem being licensing, not actual games. I don't know how they can fix this, irony posting about 06 for over a decade now as well as Wii/U special treatment probably put the nail in the coffin on the franchise ever reaching people outside of actual Sonic fans themselves.

>>723604879
>Sonic makes billions in licensing alone according to Sega's most recent financial report. Problem being licensing, not actual games

That's literally everything dude
pokemon games account for like 2% of the money pokemon makes

>>723599038 (OP)
why does sonic need a car?

>>723604784
Post a full screen version with the track visible and prove me wrong then.
You won't and you can't.

>>723605058
He does it for fun and to give everyone else a competitive chance.

>>723605059
I don't see how posting the full screen would magically make the tracks not straight lines.

>>723604489
>I do think it is hilarious that people will criticize MKW over tracks just because it has an extra 200 mediocre tracks in addition to 30 really good ones that make good use of the new mechanics.
the problem is the game forces you to play on those unless you literally find online matches via discord.
mario kart world is unironically a discord game

>>723605191
The main tracks aren't like this though. It's just the crossworld-exclusive intermission tracks that are straight lines. There are tons of standard tracks in the game too.

>>723605164
I would play it if they let you use characters like sonic and shadow but with no car.

>>723605010
Pokemon's legacy is card games and toys. While the games come first, both Nintendo, TPC, and Game Freak know they're not the most important thing in the world, which is why they're thrown out in the state they're in.
Those 3 companies also knew what they were doing with Pokemon, and never let up a single time, even if it's for the worse. Sega has though, and Sonic has suffered because of it. From cancelling shows, to attempting to desperately gain an audience they allowed themselves to lose (Japan), they've screwed themselves over hard. Sonic would honestly be more successful if they stopped focusing on games, and relied only on Television, movies, comics, and toys.

>>723605306
every second lap in Crossworlds is an intermission track

Told ya you wouldn't

>>723605401
>an actual sonic autist
no wonder you are so desperate for this game to not be a flop.

>>723605386
Wrong. You can get a regular track as a crossworld track too if you pick random.

>>723605386
You know you can get regular tracks for the second lap right?

>>723605386
That's a really weird cope

>Actually you can get regular tracks instead of intermissions if you pick "random"!
Why does this sound so familiar?

>>723605474
so just like Mario Kart then.

>>723605306
I completely get that and I quit doing match making. However, /v/ makes it out like the game is beyond saving even though it has about as many good tracks as any other Mario Kart game on top of the open world stuff. Too many disingenuous arguments from people who have no intention of actually talking what the game actually does good and bad the same as this guy >>723605386

>>723599038 (OP)
Every Sonic Crossworld discussion wanted japan to play more Mario Kart World so they did instead of buying Sonic Crossworlds. History repeated itself again "SEGA does nothing, but Nintendo"

>>723605468
>type in smug sonic in google images and filter color to transparant and save first image I see
>I'm suddenly a sonic autist
Am I a mario autist now?

>>723605712
still a sonic autist

>>723599038 (OP)

Who the FUCK thought it could?

>>723605731
nah I'm a mario autist now
I win

>>723599038 (OP)
How is that news? Even with the Switch 2 just releasing and having a much smaller install base, only delusional people would think Sonic would beat Mario Kart. It's a spin-off Sonic game, and Sonic already doesn't sell that great, vs what has become one of the biggest franchises that every normalfag knows about.

>>723599215
Take your meds and lose the victim complex.

>>723605754
check the archives

>>723605927
But he's not a Sonic fan

>>723599408
See
>>723605927

>>723605661
You're not entirely wrong but you're also not entirely right. Crossworlds has a lot less intermission tracks and as a result they're all way more unique and designed specifically to be fun for racing whereas World has like 150 random routes from the open world map that it uses as intermissions from course to course. It's quality vs quantity.

>>723599392
Japan doesnt like Sonic.
And Personafaggotry is more toxic/repelling than people realize.

>>723606007
now let's look at the steam and Metacritic reviews.

>>723599038 (OP)
Mario Kart is stupidly popular. Why is anyone surprised by this?

>>723605321
the intermission tracks are mandatory
there is no way to turn it off

>>723606072
It literally looks like the Digimon/Pokemon user score. It has to be bots at this point, what the fuck is going on?

>>723606227
not what I'm alluding to, dumbass. The majority of Crossworld's reviews are whining about Mario Kart instead of reviewing the game.

>>723599038 (OP)
japan hates fun

>>723599038 (OP)
Most of the vocal "fandoms" on Twitter and 4chan are retarded third world teenagers larping as first worlders while outsiders of their corrugated iron sheet hut someone is fucking a donkey next to a burning oil drum. Also their entire room smells of shit because they can't flush their toilet paper.
Of course these super vocal retards don't translate into real sales.
All internet hype is fake and gay since the third world got widespread Internet access.

>>723606541
>Also their entire room smells of shit because they can't flush their toilet paper.
we use water instead of toilet paper retard

>>723607115
Spotted the turd worlder.

Still buying CrossWorlds

Clearly it was missing Vanilla.

>>723599038 (OP)
Child vs neutron star

>>723599038 (OP)
Im playing crash team racing instead

It'd be funny if that RV ad fucked them over somehow.

>>723608038
I didnt buy it because of the price, but I would buy it full price for Vanilla my wife

>>723601063
anon...
https://github.com/shutterbug2000/ABadAvatar

>>723602892
Isn't that based on Hidden World, a stage in Sonic LW that was literally a straight line?

>>723606227
MK has Nintendo Tax, so it's given 5-10 extra points by merely existing.

>>723606215
oh... just like the straight lines you have to drive for 3-5 minutes in mkw?

>>723599392
Miku is more popular than Sonic in Japan.

>>723605386
I love it and I hate it at the same time.
It really does shake things up.
Sill not as good as Transformed's dynamic tracks.

>>723606541
There's an entirely brown spic culture on the internet deticated to shitting up the English speaking places they go.
Before a normal person (white) would shitpost 4% of the time while 95% being a ginuene person and engaging with people.
These brown turds are all shitposting and ruined most discussion on the web.

>>723599038 (OP)
Nintendo obviously has a stranglehold on the media in Japan. It's one of their most important companies where as SEGA (and by extension, Sonic) failed and dishonoured them in the early 2000s by exiting the console market in disgrace.

>>723602498
kys

>>723609378
lol here comes the imaginary bonus cope

>>723602036
too late, sonic already cooled for japan

>>723612279
Funny how Sega didn't get roasted for announcing the dlc for this game before launch, or the fact that the whole fucking package is 90 bucks eh

>>723603597
godtier commercial