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Anonymous No.723606878 >>723607434 >>723608261 >>723608386 >>723608435 >>723609585 >>723609857 >>723609931 >>723610017 >>723610089 >>723610281 >>723610786 >>723610905 >>723610976 >>723611028 >>723611143 >>723611179 >>723611283 >>723611354 >>723611850 >>723612418 >>723614049 >>723617197 >>723617707 >>723618012 >>723618189 >>723622265 >>723622619 >>723622726 >>723623924
It really wasn't that bad.
Anonymous No.723606991
it was good
Anonymous No.723607027 >>723607353
I remember seeing this on the shelf at my local video store. Begged my parents to rent it for me. Watched it as soon as I got home super pumped, immediately lost interest when I didn't see the fun video game characters.
Anonymous No.723607353 >>723607634
>>723607027
you must have been a pretty dumb kid. they are all over the movie. even bob-omb
Anonymous No.723607378
It's a movie that fixes the ye old video game problem of "why watch this when you could be playing it?" which automatically makes it good. The crazy creative shit poured into it easily elevates it to fucking fantastic.
Anonymous No.723607434
>>723606878 (OP)
it wasn't even bad!
Anonymous No.723607634
>>723607353
of course, every kid's favorite mario character, the bobomb! no goombas, no koopa troopa, no bowser.
Anonymous No.723608261 >>723613863 >>723614104 >>723617157
>>723606878 (OP)
The trope of main characters donning their iconic costumes late in a movie adaption is fun.

I realize Nintendo/Illumination would never do it with their movie solely because it work hurt marketability.
Anonymous No.723608386
>>723606878 (OP)
Didn't have video games till I could buy my own. Saw this movie and wanted to play Super Mario Bros.
Played the game and learned platforming games are not for me.
Anonymous No.723608435
>>723606878 (OP)
Better than the gay Minions reskin.
Anonymous No.723609585
>>723606878 (OP)
I was 12 when I saw this at the cinema all the way back in 1993. As as 12 year old, I really hated this movie, and it was the first movie that I ever felt 'ripped off' (at the time) seeing, Like I wanted my money back. I must have had really high standards when I was 12. Because I thought the movie looked cheap, I thought it was boring. The cast was OK. In retrospect, I don't hate it as much as I did. I think the Uwe Boll movies made re re-evaluate the Super Mario Bros. movie in the: "well, it could have been worse" category.
Anonymous No.723609804 >>723617137
That one scene of Dennis Hopper pointing and saying monkey has more soul than the whole modern Mario movie.
Anonymous No.723609857
>>723606878 (OP)
I liked it as a kid even though it wasn't like the games. As an adult I appreciate it different for its 90s campiness. Literally everything Dennis Hopper touched turned to gold just because of his presence.
Anonymous No.723609931 >>723610353
>>723606878 (OP)
It was one of my favorite movies as a kid. I loved the jump boots and goombas
Anonymous No.723610017 >>723610786
>>723606878 (OP)
>Go to see this in theaters
>So fucking excited
>Learn for the first time that movies could actually be bad
Anonymous No.723610089
>>723606878 (OP)
It would have worked better if it wasn't a Mario Bros movie
Anonymous No.723610281
>>723606878 (OP)
As a kid expecting Mario its awful, as an adult wanting 90s Nostalgia its kino as fuck.
Anonymous No.723610353 >>723610467
>>723609931
You weren't creeper the fuck out at that part?
Anonymous No.723610467
>>723610353
Nope
Anonymous No.723610786 >>723611213
>>723610017
>>>723606878 (OP) (OP)
>>Go to see this in theaters
>>So fucking excited
>>Learn for the first time that movies could actually be bad

For me it was:
> See it in the theatre opening night
> Theater had like a total of 10 people max in it
> Some of the other kids there were throwing popcorn and gummy candy at each other.
> Someone walks out
> Leave the theatre kind of underwhelmed
> Boom boom, aka-laka-laka-boom, boom boom, aka-laka-laka-boom boom, open the door, get on the floor, everybody walk the Dinosaur.

The movie itself was a really big box office bomb. Yes, it did open a week or two before Jurassic Park.
Anonymous No.723610905 >>723611057
>>723606878 (OP)
Japan made a manga adaptation
Anonymous No.723610976
>>723606878 (OP)
I liked the fireball guns a lot and the clothes were pretty baller. A fun kid's movie.
Anonymous No.723611028
>>723606878 (OP)
Not a great adaptation of the source material. I would hesitate it to call ot out and out good, but it's entertaining and enjoyable with interesting ideas.
Anonymous No.723611057
>>723610905
oh my god
Anonymous No.723611098
>This Ain't No Game.
So it is a game?
Anonymous No.723611143
>>723606878 (OP)
But not as mario movie
Anonymous No.723611179
>>723606878 (OP)
They should have committed to the original ending which had Miyamoto interview the brothers and decide to make a game out of their story.
Anonymous No.723611213
>>723610786
>Yes, it did open a week or two before Jurassic Park.
Between JP, SMB, Carnosaur, We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story, Rex: A Dinosaur's Story, and a shitty direct-to-video movie called Prehysteria, 1993 truly was the Year of the Dinosaurs.
Anonymous No.723611283 >>723611380
>>723606878 (OP)
I know I wouldn't have liked Jodorowsky's Dune, as an adaptation of the book, but I would have enjoyed many aspects of it, mostly the art direction.
This movie, I enjoy in the same way. As a Mario movie, it blows geriatric dick. As a movie by itself? It was at the very least entertaining, and some of its design choices were very interesting as well.
Anonymous No.723611354
>>723606878 (OP)
I only saw it on VHS originally, was kind of sad to find out how much shit gets thrown its way as I got older.
Anonymous No.723611380 >>723617137
>>723611283
Holy Mountain is a underrated treasure. Its too bad the Beetles made sure he never got work again.
Anonymous No.723611453 >>723611715 >>723613434
Same creature designer as Godzilla 1998 and the Snyderverse.
Anonymous No.723611715
>>723611453
And Stargate. (the movie)
Also, you can't tell me this isn't adorable.
A smile I would die to protect.
Anonymous No.723611850
>>723606878 (OP)
No, it really was. When was the last time you watched it? We had a bad movie night a little while back. We watched it. It wasn't funny bad, it was just boring bad.
Anonymous No.723611856
It probably would've done better if it didn't have the title Mario Bros but also probably nobody would've seen it if it didn't. It's not a very good movie either way.
Anonymous No.723612418 >>723613336 >>723614036
>>723606878 (OP)
it was ambitiously divergent and creative, which i can respect but also acknowledge was not at all suitable for what should have been its target audience, and the show runners did not have the skill or budget to pull any of it off.

nintendo also completely dropped the ball for not exercising more creative and quality control, basically letting a bunch of no-names do whatever they wanted with their premiere IP.

for what they were trying to do, they were looking for someone like tim burton to direct. really the only good to come out of the movie was that it got leguizamo his big break.
Anonymous No.723612467 >>723613279
Butt breath
Anonymous No.723613279
>>723612467
Overweening rogue!
Anonymous No.723613336 >>723614036 >>723614542
>>723612418
>nintendo also completely dropped the ball for not exercising more creative and quality control, basically letting a bunch of no-names do whatever they wanted with their premiere IP.

It is a bit messy to explain. But it really has something to do with the way transparency laws were put into place in the American TV and movie industry that prevented entertainment from being direct advertisements for products. This law was put into place during the Clinton administration and was completely unregulated during the Ronald Reagan administration. Nintendo had a hands-off approach to the movie and just let the film makers adapt the Mario property in a way that they saw fit. This law is still in place. So no Hollywood movie or TV series based on a video game will ever be completely 1:1. They will always be adapted in a slightly different way. In this day in age, I think it is pretty antiquated law. As streaming services and the internet has skewered the way we see entertainment. Back then, it was a law put in place to separate product placement from flat out entertainment as an advertisement. It's a messy thing.
Anonymous No.723613434
>>723611453
why'd he get worse as he got older
Anonymous No.723613698 >>723614107
the fan "director's cut" is pretty good
https://archive.org/details/super-mario-bros-1993-the-morton-jankel-cut-extended-vhs_202207
Anonymous No.723613863
>>723608261
>The trope of main characters donning their iconic costumes late in a movie adaption is fun.
in hindsight its not as good in video games(botw).
Anonymous No.723613916
I still remember thinking Mojo Nixon was such a huge get as a kid, wonder how they managed that
Anonymous No.723614036 >>723614542
>>723612418
Good post
>>723613336
Facinating.
Anonymous No.723614049 >>723614170
>>723606878 (OP)
I recommend the Gaming Historian episode on it. It was a trainwreck of a production and the directors were husband and wife, but I agree that it's a strangely good movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve26GpPDTgY
Anonymous No.723614104 >>723622459
>>723608261
GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG GLUG!
Anonymous No.723614107 >>723614238
>>723613698
what changes do they make?
Anonymous No.723614170
>>723614049
I have the movie on blu-ray, it has a similar (but hour-long) documentary on the making of the movie, all behind-the-scenes drama included.
Anonymous No.723614238
>>723614107
It looks like they used the theatrical movie but added bits and pieces of the VHS-quality workprint version. (rather than the unedited workprint) A trickier job than it might sound, and undoubtedly a labor of love.
Anonymous No.723614542 >>723615371 >>723623675
>>723614036
>>>723613336 (You)
>Facinating.

This is from Google AI, but it is factually correct:

> Deregulation in the 1980s
The Reagan Administration and the FCC: In the early 1980s, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) adopted a deregulatory stance under President Ronald Reagan. The new chairman, Mark Fowler, famously declared that a television was "just a toaster with pictures" and that the market, not the government, should dictate programming.

> The rise of "toy-based" cartoons: With restrictions lifted, companies were able to create animated series that were essentially 30-minute advertisements for their toys. Classic examples include He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, The Transformers, and G.I. Joe. This era is often called the age of the "half-hour toy commercial".

> Parents' groups protest: Advocacy groups, most notably Action for Children's Television (ACT), strongly criticized this practice. They argued that young children could not distinguish between entertainment and advertising and that the trend encouraged excessive consumerism.
Regulation in the 1990s

> Children's Television Act of 1990: After years of lobbying by ACT and other groups, Congress passed the Children's Television Act (CTA) in 1990. This act established formal rules for children's programming for the first time since deregulation.

> The CTA's enforcement was strengthened later in the decade, during the Clinton administration. In 1996, the FCC adopted a stronger rule, which took effect in 1997, requiring all TV stations to air at least three hours of educational and informational (E/I) programming per week.

Yeah, because of these laws that were being put in place in the early 90's, Nintendo didn't want to overstep any of them, or be accused of dictating the Super Mario Bros. movie into one big advertisement for the Mario games. So they took a hands-off approach. This is also why the 1980's was a glorious decade for cartoons and movies being literal advertisements.
Anonymous No.723614854
I watched it all the time as a kid. I had zero fucking clue it was meant to be based on Mario. I thought it was like a convenience thing they were called Mario and Luigi.
Anonymous No.723615371 >>723620950
>>723614542
>> Parents' groups protest: Advocacy groups, most notably Action for Children's Television (ACT), strongly criticized this practice. They argued that young children could not distinguish between entertainment and advertising and that the trend encouraged excessive consumerism.
>Regulation in the 1990s

I will say this: Fuck parental groups. Most of them were terrible parents as it is and nobody in society needed clownworld groups like them telling others how to raise their children. If Trump was legit, he would un-regulate all of it. It would bring some real money back to the toy companies.
Anonymous No.723617012
Looking back, I actually liked how it didn't copy the games 1:1 and tried to put its own spin on things - whether it succeeded with that is another thing.
The Illumination movie meanwhile might've been way more accurate but a lot of the time it felt like you were just watching someone else playing a video game, making you wonder "...why am I not playing the actual thing instead?".
Anonymous No.723617132
I DEMAND MORE TOYS
Anonymous No.723617137
>>723609804
Hilariously true and fucking based.

>>723611380
>Its too bad the Beetles made sure he never got work again.
Now I'm curious. QRD?
Anonymous No.723617157
>>723608261
>The trope of main characters donning their iconic costumes late in a movie adaption is fun.
Source material accuracy shouldn't be something that the audience needs to earn.
Anonymous No.723617197
>>723606878 (OP)
Yes it was.
fuck you.
Anonymous No.723617379 >>723617641
Yes it was. The entire movie is having an identity crisis. It can't decide if it wants to be action or comedy so it does both badly. We barely see Dinohattan, Koopa is a shit villain with a garbage finale, Luigi can't act for shit, Daisy is a non-character. There are only five things you'll remember from this shit.
>the elevator dance
>Mario Mario, Luigi Mario
>the fat black bitch
>MONKEY
>the bob-omb
Anonymous No.723617641
>>723617379
Forgot to add:
>"Aw, we gotta deal with aliens too?" "Luigi, WE'RE the aliens!" "We are? Whoa, cool!"
>Yoshi
>"...Are we dead?"
>the running gag with the pizza (in the workprint version, the delivery guy drives by after Koopa gets de-evolved into slime, tosses it on Koopa's puddle, and drives off; should have been in the final cut)
>Iggy and Spike rapping about taking down Koopa (cut content, can be seen in the workprint; should have been in the final cut as well)
Anonymous No.723617707 >>723617774 >>723617991 >>723618276
>>723606878 (OP)
didn't mario's actor absolutely hate being in this movie lmao
Anonymous No.723617735
>dumped the Mario Brothers into Dinosaur Judge Dredd
kino
Anonymous No.723617774 >>723617835
>>723617707
>Bob also gave us this quote about his opinions on the movie: "The worst thing I ever did? Super Mario Brothers. It was a f**kin' nightmare. The whole experience was a nightmare."
Anonymous No.723617835
>>723617774
kek
Anonymous No.723617991 >>723618031
>>723617707
Hoskins and Leguizamo would get wasted on set. One time they were so fucked up, they crashed and Hoskins fucked up his arm. You can see it's in a cast during some scenes.
The behind the scenes stuff is more interesting honestly.
Anonymous No.723618012 >>723618157
>>723606878 (OP)
I'm with the other anons that I was so disappointed as a kid when I saw it. The takes on the characters were so laughably different. As I got older, I grew to appreciate it as a quirky cyberpunk movie with a unique world, but even then, not enough is done with Dinohatten to really justify the outlandishness.
Anonymous No.723618031
>>723617991
It's like The Room, in the sense that the story behind the making of the movie is even more bizarre than the movie itself.
Anonymous No.723618135 >>723618276 >>723618361
>The original script/treatment for the Super Mario Bros film was written by Barry Morrow, of β€˜Rain Man’ fame. His initial draft was somewhat derivative of the prior film and was referred to as β€˜Drain Man’ by production.
Anonymous No.723618157
>>723618012
In their defense, Dinohattan was actually a huge set in an abandoned factory. Nowadays, it would have just been CG'd. People can nay-say it all they want, but the set designers/ builders put real work in.
Anonymous No.723618189
>>723606878 (OP)
So why did the new animated movie re-use the entire plot from the live-action film? I'm glad it did though because it helped bring the entire thing full circle... was that the reason?
Anonymous No.723618276 >>723618361
>>723617707
its a shame they wasted him on this as the best picks for live action Mario were always Hoskins, Devito and Ron Jeremy
>>723618135
the fuck? would it have been Mario guiding around autistic Luigi??
Anonymous No.723618361
>>723618135
>>723618276
Funny enough, there is a plumbing superhero in the comics called Dirk Drainhead. So they really enjoyed the plumbing puns back then.
Anonymous No.723619448
This movie predicted 9/11.
Anonymous No.723619738 >>723619852 >>723621004
>excited to see the movie
>mfw it starts with that flash tier dinosaur cartoon
>mfw Luigi doesn't have a mustache
>mfw the main girl is called Daisy
>mfw Bowser is an old guy in a suit and all he does is ask where his pizza is (this isn't funny)
>mfw they barely do any acrobat stunts until they get the rocket boots
>mfw Yoshi doesn't join and was just a throwaway puppet
>mfw Luigi keeps vomiting believe in yourself nonsense throughout the movie
>mfw Bowser turns into Bowser for a 5 second effect and blows up in a bucket
>mfw finding out one of the two retards in the movie that did nothing was called Iggy
>mfw the movie ends with a sequel hook (what the fuck would it even be about)
Anonymous No.723619852
>>723619738
>what the fuck would it even be about
http://www.smbthecomic.com/comic/
Anonymous No.723619856
I loved the games, and I loved the movie - the dinosaur city was interesting enough to help me look past the questionable adaption of the property.
Anonymous No.723620950
>>723615371
One of the most retarded things I heard growing-up was that one radio commercial stating
>MORE CHILDREN KNOW WHO JOE CAMEL IS THAN MICKEY MOUSE!!!!!
This was also the early 90's, and I think it's important to consider that Mickey wasn't exactly palstered everywhere back then, as this was Saturday morning-era Disney that wanted cool and not-gay cartoons, but also, if you wanted to see Mickey outside of TV, this required Disneyland/World, kinda pricey and location-depending, and if you wanted to see him specifically on TV, you needed a premium ABC affiliate (cable, selective programming), or the Disney Channel (paid cable).

Mickey on diapers? A family that smokes probably isn't buying Huggies, or any of the above, so no shit, a heavily-smoking demographic in-range of kids (poor/trashy) is gonna produce kids who are aware of the dicknosed mascot on mommy's backseat ashsticks. As if that wasn't bad enough, the delightful Budweiser frogs were nuked for the same reason: kids thinking the retarded frogs and their alligator friend are funny is going to produce drinkers

My family didn't smoke, but we also didn't get the Disney Channel/Toon Disney up until the early 2000's, back when satellite was no longer a seti dish in your sideyard and was being pushed as cheaply as possible to counter the digital cable competition. No matter how badly they try to hide shit to kids advertising-wise (or anything-wise), the moment someone grabs grandma's forgotten tablet in any given friend group and finds an open AP, it's all over

Camel may have went too far with this however

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDHVsyA9zBw
Anonymous No.723621004
>>723619738
frfr
Anonymous No.723621321
Anonymous No.723621363 >>723622226
I saw it in theaters :) good times
Anonymous No.723622226
>>723621363
Same. I was 9. I've been a dinosaur nerd for as long as I can remember, so between SMB and Jurassic Park, I was eating good that year.
Anonymous No.723622265 >>723622459
>>723606878 (OP)
It's a fun movie, it's just a shit Mario movie.
Anonymous No.723622459 >>723622528
>>723622265
I'll take a soulful movie that's very loosely based on a game than the other way around. The Illumination movie lacked SOVL. Also, no >>723614104
Anonymous No.723622528 >>723623180
>>723622459
>soulful
It really isn't though. It just rips off better movies and does nothing with that.
Anonymous No.723622619
>>723606878 (OP)
Nah, it's charmless cynical garbage clearly written by a checklist, from a time when everyone was scrambling to have their own merchandisable and "toyetic" Batman-like hit.
Anonymous No.723622726
>>723606878 (OP)
compared to shit today, this is gold.
Anonymous No.723623180
>>723622528
t. scallywag
Anonymous No.723623675
>>723614542
Those advertisements were better than all the gay crap were have now. I'm not even saying gay as a juvenile insult, some are pushing homosexuality. The modern product of kids programing these days is making sure they'll grow up not wanting children.
Anonymous No.723623828
>In 1990, Dustin Hoffman attempted to purchase the rights to produce a film with himself as Mario, Danny DeVito as Luigi, and Barry Levinson directing.
This has to be made up.
Anonymous No.723623924
>>723606878 (OP)
It's just an example of taking artistic liberty in adaptation of video game.
But anyone has right to disagree with interpretation.