Thread 723613416

Has Twitch been a net positive or negative for gaming?

A net positive.
Sure, it resulted in a streamerslop genre of games but it's easy to spot them and just not buy them. I'd say Twitch has done an okay job at giving exposure to games you wouldn't otherwise see.

>>723613416 (OP)
Negative. Everything about streaming culture has been a negative. Youtubers had at least SOME positives. I can't think of a single good thing streaming/twitch has brought to gaming.

>>723613416 (OP)
I have never understood the appeal of watching other people play video games.

Positive, it gives you access, almost 24/7 to watch someone in real time play a huge number of titles at your leisure.
The people are awful, but that's more of a community issue than the platform. IF the platform wasn't here, they'd be elsewhere.

Negative. They keep promoting tranny shit and other bad lefties trends.

I think I don't know enough and should refrain from answering

>>723613416 (OP)
>their CEO made his employees do the wagie birthday song and dance for Hasan Piker and Hasan didnt even care or say thank you to them.

>>723613416 (OP)
Negative

>>723613416 (OP)
>parallel industry that helps fund the creation of games
good
yeah, it's resulted in a micro genre of streamer slop but those gamedevs would've been chasing any other shitty trend without twitch

>>723613416 (OP)
positive for gaming
negative for society

Positive for competitive games like fightans. Negative for literally everything else. I heard a streamer got sexually assaulted on camera at twitchcon yesterday, twitch just cant catch a break

>>723613416 (OP)
Negative, not even a question. You're supposed to mock attention whores until they GTFO, not build a platform that enables them.

early twitch? net positive.
twitch now? net negative.

>>723613416 (OP)
Honestly, I'm going to say a negative.

>>723614014
>random retard runs up and tries to hug some streamer
>ZOMGGGG HE RAPED HER! THATS RAPE! THAT'S LITERALLY SEXUAL ASSAULT HE LITERALLY RAPED HER ASSHOLE!
Unironically kys retard.

>>723614014
>I heard a streamer got sexually assaulted on camera at twitchcon yesterday, twitch just cant catch a break
Twitch literally doesn't deserve a break. It's run by genuine psychopaths. I think the only way for Twitch to see a new golden age, is for it to entirely burn to the ground. Kick needs to capitalize hard on this event. Honestly, I don't even see this happening. Dan Clancy must have something on someone much higher up than him. It's no fucking coincidence that he and his goons haven't been tossed on his ass yet.

>>723613416 (OP)
If Twitch didn't give such a pass to e-whores I don't think OnlyFans would have taken off as easily as it has.

>>723613694
He was actually ashamed and wished death on them for being so wholesome.

>>723614204
>t.rapist

>>723614014
>sexually assaulted
She was LITERALLY RAPED on camera.

>>723613416 (OP)
negative
no i will not elaborate

>>723613416 (OP)
Profoundly negative. There was a sincere sociality gaming that's now pretty much dead because of it. Everyone's just more guarded now, even if you don't consciously feel it.

>>723614204
I thought he went for a kiss

>>723613416 (OP)
Net positive, it's been a huge benefit for esports and especially fighting games. It also helped people who don't trust video game reviewers from journalist make up their mind about games, sadly it killed lets plays.

That headband-wearing nigger Ninja single-handedly ruined multiplayers by popularizing being a sweaty fuck to normalfags.

>>723614014
>I heard a streamer got sexually assaulted on camera at twitchcon yesterday
he hugged her on the shoulders for half a second before a security guard knocked him off
this is what leftroons call sexual assault but when shitskins rape millions of kids they stay quiet

>>723613416 (OP)
Super negative, it’s normiegate to have access to shit that they dont actually play or interact with in any meaningful way. Look at the Harry Potter game

>>723614014
>someone gets close to a person and tries to hug them
>everyone acts like she was raped on camera and twitch should be sued for millions
>someone even instantly came and stopped him
Like... what do they expect? Having 1000 armed cops there preventing ANYONE from getting 10m close to any woman there?`Theses are also the same people saying ACAB btw

>>723614506
In the clip I've seen he runs up and wrap his arms around her like he was trying to hug her...I didn't see him kiss her. I've also seen comments where retards say it doesn't matter, it was sexual assault as soon as he touched her...retards just don't know the law it seems.

There's still good streamers, they're just far and few in-between. Too many people treat it like a job and twitch definitely enforces that "build a cult" mentality for their own profit. The trick to finding a good streamer is just find a lonely streamer, they expect nothing but company and just want to share games they like or are interested in.

Streamers like vinesauce recently said that even though he's successful, he's the complete opposite of what Twitch wants from a streamer, he doesn't do onscreen chats, he doesnt read donations, he doesnt acknowledge subs, he asks people donate to charity instead.

Average twitch streamers beg for donations through sub/donathons, and they gameify the system and commodify depressed lonely people. It's especially bad with vtubers, but there are cool vtubers out there.

When they required you to play games it was good but since their CEO is a gooner he let people just talk and show off their pg-13 tits.

>>723614617
>armed cops
They want PMCs.

>>723614417
>>>>>she

>>723614204
>>723614014
>>723614624
You dont hug someone by instantly pushing your face into hers

Was it last year that someone broke their spine at Twitchon because of their badly designed foampit?
>>723614598
He went for a kiss, that's sexual assault.
>but when shitskins rape millions of kids they stay quiet
Comparing apple with orange's while brining up something irrelevant to the topic at hand.

>>723614548
KEK nah faggots been on that type of timing. If anyone popularized being sweaty faggots it was the days of CoDtubers and Halo faggots and Machinima uploading 60-4 gameplays. Promoting faggots going into objective based games modes and completely ignoring the objective while kill whoring. Being a try hard faggot was popularized well before Twitch was ever a thing.

>>723614649
Vincesauce is like the single most "I just do this because it's my job" streamer to exist, what the fuck are you smoking?

>>723614679
inb4 some based retards ups the ante by doing something much worse at the next con

>>723614679
She was asking for it desu.

>>723613416 (OP)
Negative.
Game devs have to cater their games to streamers to be successful

>>723614649
>Too many people treat it like a job
Because it is a job to many of them

>>723614679
WHAT THE FUCK CENSOR THIS IT IS LITERALLY RAPE! HIS FACE WAS LIKE 50CM AWAY FROM HERS!!!

>>723614751
Most of the issue is that the dude could have had a knife and that’s it for the girl and Twitch lied about the whole deal in many aspects
>From allowance from the security from the detention to her reaction

>>723614679
why are there 9 replies saying this was just a normal shoulder half-hug lmfao

>>723614685
The foampit was like years ago and it was way worse. But it was a pornstar so no one cares.

>>723614751
Yeah like running up and ripping her shirt off her and revealing her supple breasts. Or maybe pantsing Pokimane revealing her thong.

>>723614679
She probably got the most wet in her entire life.

>>723614679
>cultivate a fanbase of depraved simps and wring them of all their money
>get butthurt when one of them tries to cash that investment
dude didn't even grab her ass or anything,

>>723614679
But his face is not even going towards a kiss, it goes towards her shoulder and not face?

>>723614014
>twitch just cant catch a break
It only happens because twitch is completely incompetent and go out of their way to ruin their product

>>723614790
Don't these venues have metal detectors?

>>723614745
>"I just do this because it's my job"
The guy can do anything else than stream or try to be more marketable to earn more and yet he doesn't. Don't be an such an ingenious retard.

>>723614791
Because from that angle you can't see any kiss, just Lurch grabbing and hugging her. If there is another angle, post it, I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong.

>>723614840
>Literally you

>>723614859
>>Don't these venues have metal detectors?
Lmao

>>723614790
How is Twitch suppose to prevent everyone at the event to get close to people? Are you suggesting that nobody can get close to anyone or what?
Like what are your actual suggestions from prevent people to get close to anyone at a big ass event?

>>723614679
>toothpaste hair just stands there stunned
>every witness just doesnt even care
yeah those are twitch viewers and not even real people. they are so used to consuming content that they cannot fathom real life in front of them

>>723614807
Of course it was way worse, someone broke their design and people should fucking care because it just shows how badly organized the convention is.

>>723614679
The funniest part of this is the blue-haired beta male just standing there like a cuck.

>>723614790
>>723614835
It doesn't have to be actual crimes but just trolling just to really put it in twitch's face.

>>723614679
Post the real one

>>723614679
Every time I see clips of these streamer cons the venue always looks so fucking empty. Like they rent out some huge building only for like 100 nerds to show up to shake hands with tyler1.

>>723613416 (OP)
Sir, this is the video games board. Twitch is not video games. It's politics, live births, animal abuse, sexual assault, and diapers.

>>723614839
Emiru doesn't do that and you're not entitled to someone's body.

>>723614947
>yeah those are twitch viewers and not even real people. they are so used to consuming content that they cannot fathom real life in front of them
Last time something like this happened the bodyguard got banned from Twitchcon. It's bad enough these simps are giving some stupid whore money for literally just sitting in front of a webcam...you want them to also get beat up for her too? God you sound like a faggot.

>>723614751
I mean we had this last week. Its only a matter of time until it happens in the West.
This big Korean streamer got stalked and murdered after ending her stream. Apparently some beta orbiter had donated $70k to her and wondered why it didnt give him exclusive access to her pussy. She turned him down and she got murdered.

>>723614893
No he can't, he hasn't had a single proper job his whole life. This is all he knows and is his comfort shit.
He's a lazy faggot that found a comfort income source with his fellow tranny, furry and twitch clique friends.

>>723614417
hot, link?

>>723614679
Ive never kissed a woman in my life but this seems a bit too far away from her head to be a kiss. Did the egirl say what happened yet or did twitch put a muzzle on her?

>>723614649
>collabs with the biggest streamers all the time
>part of the worst twitch clique there is with people like Criken
Anon...about that

>>723615001
based

>>723614745
He doesn't deny it, he was ahead of the curve and he knows how lucky he is to be in his position; but he's more humble about it. A recent response of his to someone asking "How do I become a successful streamer?" was "Uh, start 10 years ago I guess."

>>723614783
It's a job for the people who got lucky, but theres still so many people below the line who pretend they're above it. Can't pay rent? Time to abuse the charity to viewers.

>>723614949
She was semi paralyzed for months and had to stop doing most of the crazy stunts she used to do. She should have sued them for millions of dollars.

>>723614984
>live births
WHAT?

>>723614954
why should he care?
is he a security guard or her boyfriend?

>>723615098
>He doesn't deny it
That doesn't make it any better, if anything it's worse as he puts zero effort into his streams and just does it to milk money in the most passive way.

>>723615001
based simp, all she had to do was offer some pussy

>>723615001
>She turned him down and she got murdered.
Good. She deserved it. This is why streaming culture and OnlyFan bullshittery is fucking cancer. Back in the day if these whores wanted to make a living they had to strip or actually get their pussy and asshole reamed on a porn set. They were whores but at least they EARNED their worth. Imagine giving some stupid bitch 70k just for sitting in front of a webcam with makeup on....and then you can't even see her naked or fuck her? Obviously you can't blame the chick, it's men fault for allowing this shit to happen. If dudes stopped throwing money at OF and Twitch and YT whores these bitches would have to work at target...but sadly men as a whole are just too pathetic to do anything about it.

>>723614954
yeah sure thing fag. you would jump in to save this ewhore's honor

>whiteknighting a public clown cum dumpster
this didnt happen before twitch

>>723614649
>Streamers like vinesauce recently said that even though he's successful, he's the complete opposite of what Twitch wants from a streamer, he doesn't do onscreen chats, he doesnt read donations, he doesnt acknowledge subs, he asks people donate to charity instead.
Not a good example. He literally doesn't need the money.

>>723613520
>I'd say Twitch has done an okay job at giving exposure to games you wouldn't otherwise see.
Youtube already does that

>>723615135
Youtube has them as well, including the ancient meme video of a women literally standing upright in a doorway and practically shitting her baby out onto the floor Monty Python style.

>>723615001
keeeek

>>723615192
it did, those people were called captain-save-a-hoes. the term "can't turn a hoe to a housewife" was coined well before twitch or youtube existed.

>>723615001
based af

>>723614986
One of the simps are in this thread, incredible

>>723615205
I like that at the both time Vincesauce is super humble and doesn't do it for the money and doesn't take any money from Twitch. And clearly doesn't stream for money
But on the other hand he is so rich from streaming and makes so much money from streaming he doesn't need to stream.

How do you even become such a simp for a streamer?

>>723615235
https://www.reddit.com/r/BannedYoutube/

>>723614649
Even the "good" ones are being forced to walk on eggshells 24/7 to not catch a ban or angry troon raid.

>>723615001
>Initially, the fan's affection reportedly transformed into obsession. Choi, who presented himself as a CEO enjoying success, was actually an individual who had gotten into deep financial trouble and lost his home through auction. He had created a fake persona and was financially supported which led him to create a close bond with Yoon and even convince her to go into business together.

>But there were reports about Yoon having recently sought to break the ties claiming controlling behavior and demanding schedule as reasons. The CCTV clips released by the detectives showed Choi kneeling and asking for forgiveness just before the tragic event. As per his later confession, he dragged her into her car before killing.

>>723615162
>it's men fault for allowing this shit to happen
Its retards that forget that in 2000~2023 you could just type "titties" into Google and get unlimited fap material.

Now with AI you can just slap .jpgs and .mp4s of any eslut you like and make her do whatever you want, or ERP with her in SillyTavern, or fuck her in VR. All free.

>>723613416 (OP)
mixed bag

>>723615162
>Good. She deserved it.
You're so cool anon

>>723615162
>>723615187
Holy incel

>>723615157
He played some fishing game recently and he talked about how his stuff with effort fails, and his successful stuff is low effort shit like SPIN and retarded noises. It's sadly what people want, not what he wants.

>>723613416 (OP)
A positive in terms of competitive gaming, like sure it's nice to watch someone play high level Starcraft 2 in a replay but to see their keyboard and mouse movements in real time? That's some pretty cool shit.

>>723615235
>mfw Youtube is fucking covered with Korean/Japanese beach volleyball clips and track & field competitions.
Why even use PornHub?

>>723615356
t. a better man

>>723615407
fuck me forgot pic

>>723615271
You caught me, now give me your body Anon. I own it

The subhuman cattle who fund 'e-celebs' existed prior but it has directly been related to eroding the quality of video games, marketing, and the consumer - producer dynamic which wasn't even great to begin with.

>>723615135
not even a week ago some twitch hoe called Fandy literally gave birth to a baby in one of those above ground pools

>>723614679
>being a thot for mentally ill
lol

Someone post Emirus feet please

Onlyfangs was the last time Twitch was pumping out any form of entertainment and it was just from clips you'd likely watch on other sites. Seeing these "WoW veterans" die in the most pathetic noobish ways possible was genuinely hilarious.

>stealth emiraped thread getting worse after the others were deleted
MODS

>>723614617
In a certain way yes. Streamers depending on how big they are attract a very large crowd often bordering or equalling Hollywood celebrity status. With a big following there will always be an unhinged weirdo among them.

>>723615280
I'm going to try my best to decipher the nonsense you just typed. The guy already made his money from streaming. He has it. It's his. He's set for life. He knows this and has decided to actively tell his audience to spend their money elsewhere. He continues to stream because he enjoys it and doesn't try to upsell himself like every other streamer has to play in order to pay their bills. What is so confusing about this to you?

>>723615692
I saw a lot of faggots get mad the cuck didn't do anything to help. I fucking laughed at that idea because liberal niggerlovers made self defense illegal in california. turns out raping with impunity isn't very fun for everyone else

>>723615490
She had her OnlyFans link on that stream too. Gotta say, when that kid learns they were born just for clout because mommy was a fucking e-whore that will probably fuck up their worldview. Bad spawn RNG, basically.

>>723615716
So this streamer you claim that doesn't stream for money, doesn't run ads, take subs or donations has SOO MUCH money from streaming he doesn't need to work a single day of his life despite living in an expensive inner city. So he's just so wholesome after getting mega rich streaming while making no money, that he just streams for fun now?

Gotcha.

>>723614014
the funny part about the sexual assault thing is that, its not the first or only instance of it happening
the only difference is that the other people its happened to, some in worse cases, are too small to do anything or even got silenced by twitch to cover it up; its all about to explode in a way that is gonna put amazon itself in hot water

iykyk

>>723616105
>its all about to explode in a way that is gonna put amazon itself in hot water
How many times do I have to hear this before it finally happens. I'm tired bros.

>>723615938
>waaahh streamer makes money therefore they're bad
If it was about the money, he would have moved out somewhere else a long time ago.

>>723613416 (OP)
I hope he keeps ignoring everything and defends who ever they feel like it's way more funny that way same people that calling them out still stream on it bunch of spinless faggots

>>723615162
REDEEM THE BOBS AND VEGENE

>>723613416 (OP)
All the shit in the last decade has undone their positive contribution. It was good for videogame events and videogame culture, now it's all about the same 5 bitter losers rage farming each other into being multi-millionaires and their legions of incels eating it all up as if it were real life.

>>723614679
>She turned him away because he wasn't a filthy gamer
Asmon and Mizkif: 1 (shared)
Actual chads: 0

>>723616478
Alright broreo, only for u

>>723615001
>Yoon Ji-ah was a South Korean TikTok influencer and live streamer who was found murdered in September 2025. A man identified by the surname Choi, a financially troubled VIP fan who posed as a wealthy CEO, has been arrested in connection with her death.
KEK

>>723616936
accurate

>>723615779
He's a cuck? Is he her boyfriend?

>>723615162
Based
Simps seething

>>723616313
Why are you simping for an e-celeb? He's not your friend

>>723615135
yeah some dumbass streamed her kids birth live.
Its really disconcerting

>>723615135
>>723617521
It was literally a plot point in the Truman Show movie. Genuine clown world.

since when are hugs sexual assault?

>>723615057
Because she moved her head away, dude.

Most of these guys are mentally ill and believe they're in a secret relationship with the streamer who whispers to them during the stream and shit, so he was fully expecting her to go "oh, my e-husband, let's kiss!".

>>723617328
>talk about something vaguely positive about another random person
>simp
kek. I'm sorry that all it takes to hurt you is for an e-celeb to exist.

>>723617776
since we started living in a gynocentric society

>>723615162
imagine complaining about not getting sex after sending money to e-thots instead of buying an escort in **insert current year**

>>723613416 (OP)
Negative because it's ran by gay faggot normies instead of cool based nerds.

>>723615162
>Good. She deserved it.
>Obviously you can't blame the chick, it's men fault
??? Did you edge yourself into a corner?

>>723617946
Escorts have been criminalized and made illegal in most of the civilized world so nobody really bothers at this point. Turns out sneaking in undercover cops really is a good deterrent.

>>723614679
>this is assault in 2025
Why can't russian just nuke the world

We need to just kill all you faggots that whine about women 24/7. I am sick of hearing about it

>>723617776
Non-consensual hugs can, in fact, be considered assault.

on a scale from 1 to 10 how fucked is mizkif? apparently she's gonna expose him when she gets back from twitchcon

>>723617862
Vinny has always been a braindead retard. Back in the day, I could understand thinking of him as just a bit of a simpleton, getting taken advantage of by retards like Rev and those e-girls. Vinny was at his happiest when he was streaming to sub 200 viewers on his own site, and they probably were the ones that made him pivot to "twitch creator".

These days he streams with the biggest loser on the platform, Poke, whenever I see him. He can say "hey, I don't need more money", but it's not like he has subscriptions disabled, he's still doing it for the money. I fucking hate moistcritical, but at least back when he was pretending to be pious he was donating his shit to charity, the only reason Vinny says "don't give me money" is because he doesn't want to read off subs and dono messages. He'll still happily take your money.

>>723618131
the bots and 12 year old children dont care

>>723614679
Reminder that she'd rather date an abusive rapist like Mizkif than even hug (You).

>>723618271
Like all e-whores, she was smart enough to fuck a loser with a bigger audience for a year or two and then dump him and take the viewers. Just think, she'd probably be doing crap porn like bonbi now if she didn't.

>>723616971
Best part is he became financially troubled cuz the retard kept giving her money he didnt have.

>>723617776
He grabbed her tits and tried to kiss her retard.
Also famous people in general are a "dont go within 10 meters without asking them first or you'll probably get shot by a bodyguard" tier.

>>723618154
Holy fuck, this is some parasocial shit.
>e-celeb is shit because they're not the actual person I imagined them to be
>e-celeb is shit because they don't do the thing I like
>e-celeb is shit because they're related to another e-celeb that I think is shit
>I will now make additional headcanon and fanfic about how shit e-celeb is shittier than I thought because I actually know nothing about them
I suggest that you make actual connections IRL so that you realize how much of a huge retard you are from what you typed. Then again, if that's how you're brain works from people you vaguely know, there's not much to expect from you.

>>723615001
there is a natural social cost to being an e whore who extracts literal millions from lonely incels. yeah, something like this happening is fucked up, but these women aren't totally blameless either. everyone knows the score. if i go into the hood to evangelize the book of mormon and get stabbed, im at least partly at fault for putting myself in an obviously dangerous situation. it's like dead prostitutes, no one is really surprised by it

>>723613416 (OP)
test

Friend simulator for zoomers

>>723618540
>he grabbed her tits
he didnt
>tried to kiss her
so nothing happened
maybe get your eyes checked and read the statements before making yourself look like a braindead retard

>>723617995
No I didn't retard. I'm saying she deserved it for accepting 70k and not giving the dude a crumb of pussy. However, I'm saying it's ultimately men's fault for giving women the opportunity to do this in the first place. If men as a collective said "no more", all of these Twitch and OnlyFans whores would either 1. start working at Walmart or Target or 2. actually start sucking and fucking. At least in that scenario they get something out of the exchange...throwing 70K at a whore and you can't even see her naked or fuck her? The best part is he probably showed up and she didn't even know who the fuck he was after spending all that money. Shit is beyond pathetic.

>>723613416 (OP)
I'd say on the whole a net negative
Objectively, not culturally, because that's also an easy L
Remember, the gaming world runs on the attention economy, and streamers take up more of your time than even the dumbest grindfest gachaslop
By merely existing they cost the gaming industry easily hundreds of millions of dollars, and if I were them I would be scheming a way to get streaming shut down in a way Google couldn't crush (see Campo Santo vs. Pewdiepie).

>>723613520
fpwp

>>723613416 (OP)
the platform that supports animal abuse and targets minors with sexual content? definitely a positive

>>723618724
>try to kill someone
>"well he didnt die so its fine"
Democrats, everyone.

>>723618540
>"famous people"
>some e thot twitch streamer
https://youtu.be/A848xpsDJbw?t=62

>>723618840
please address the hallucinated grabbing the tits comment you made dumbfuck

>>723613416 (OP)
Negative because a lot of companies have tailored their games to streamer hype as they are basically the number one advertisers for the game. Not to mention it’s given millions of people opinions on games that they didn’t play themselves thus ruining all discourse of most games nowadays.

>>723618840
>hmmm I've been called out for an obvious lie I made
>POLITICS WILL SAVE ME, ILL CALL HIM A DEMOCRAT!

>>723613416 (OP)
It hasnt been about gaming for a long time. Just one big social media platform for some of the worst subcultures known to modern society. So overall negative.

>>723618632
I'm sorry you still watch this dude, man. Yes, it's very parasocial that I watched a bit of Vinny back before Twitch, and only see him these days when he occasionally shows up on Jerma's stream.

He stopped being funny or entertaining, so I stopped watching him. You're the "parasocial" one so deeply invested in him that you get mad whenever anyone badmouths him.

Is Vinny better than some of the actual scum of the earth LA streamers who are running damage control for a dog abused right now? Sure, but he's still not interesting anymore.

>>723619148
>talk about retarded inconsequential e-celeb
>goes on a tangent and relate things to the 'evil of the world'
>no u
meds

>>723613603
When I want to look at gameplay that is not edited like in youtube.
So I can see how a game really is.

>>723613416 (OP)
the only good thing about it is that it's free advertisement for indies
otherwise it's a huge negative

>>723620186
Twitch did their damnedest to wipe this shit clean and it only made things worse

>>723613416 (OP)
The service that Twitch offers is great but the people who manage it are a bunch degenerate fucks that helped proliferate degenerate shit which established what is known today as streamerslop.

Negative and it isn't close. Every retard is a min/max only tryhard faggot that thinks they'll become a big streamer as soon as they become goated in slop gachamoba game #39054353

>>723620621
the game seems fairly simplistic too. there's gonna be a meta like 2 days post launch and it's gonna go to shit especially when they launch competitive.

>>723615692
Nice Cobson.

Free kissies will be good for ticket sales, it's smart marketing to let people know you'll do nothing.
Also people should care more about human genocides than fluffy doggos.
Can't really say much else.

>>723614986
>Emiru doesn't do that
She's never taken donations?

Emiru din du nuffins