Thread 723613678

Thinking of buying it. What's wrong with the game? And is the first one better?

dragon's dogma 2 is essentially dragon's dogma 1.8.
Dragon's dogma online was 2.0, 2 is a step back in a ton of ways including amounts of content, variety of enemies, variety of classes, etc.
It's got a new story and looks a little better than 1, but it's largely "More of the first". IF that sounds good to you, go nuts, if it doesn't, don't buy it.
It gets cheap enough now that it's probably worth buying. I had about $20 worth of fun before I started to feel like things got to be a slog. I liked a lot of the concepts in the game, especially the ending, but nothing was done with it, and we now know there won't be a DLC or expansion or anything so it basically just ends in a very unsatisfcatory way that leaves a lot of questions and room for expansion that will never come.

Gameplay wise it's fine, but again just more of the same as the first. Get the first if you have the choice between the two. I think you can find keys for like $5 still.

>>723613678 (OP)
>buying

Pirate it. Don't give money to Capcom.

>>723613678 (OP)
It's unfinished and was pushed out by Capcom anyway. Try the Dragons Dogma 1 if you're on the fence, it's a slow burn but eventually becomes extremely fun

>>723613678 (OP)
get ready for some of the jankiest quests ever made
seriously this shit is more bugged than Bethesda games

>>723613832
>>723613793
You're saying like there's barely anything inproved in Dragon's Dogma 2. Isn't there any major features in Dragon's Dogma 2?

>>723614010
No, not really. Some changes to combat systems (mostly in classes skillsets), some new pawn features that aren't entirely present in actual combat gameplay. A new species to play as but they're like 90% irrelevant besides some mostly unvoiced dialogue by random npcs and questgivers.

>>723613805
>Pirate it
Can't do that on Windows 11

>>723614103
Find a way. Can you pirate it on Linux or something? Just don't give any money to Capcom. If that's not possible, then buy a used copy.

soulless goyslop that also runs like shit. DA is and always will be superior for the dialogue writing alone.

>>723613678 (OP)
what a sad life

>>723613678 (OP)
decent, lost alot of the soul of the original game. The black insertions are worse than the original black man who lived in a sewer and killed people.

>>723613678 (OP)
First is more complete with the dlc.

2 is more a step down and will just feel like monster hunter demo. Can't go wrong pirating it.

If you play 1 just know its rough and a surprisingly ugly game

>>723614195
Nigga wtf that isn't me

>>723614195
Wow so that is OP

>>723613678 (OP)
This game has one of the most boring quests I've ever seen in a videogame. Exploration is mostly pointless since you can just buy 90% of the gear in the game. Facing a group of goblins every 20 seconds gets old really fast. Many mechanics feel unfinished and rushed (camping, romance, dragonplague etc) you can't fight the big bad dragon at the end of the game it's literally a cutscene/walking segment. The game feels very sluggish in comparison to the first one because they tried really hard to implement physics. it seems like they wanted this game to feel more realistic but half assed all of the new mechanics and just ends up feeling clunky and less fun in comparison to the original. Warrior is 100% better in this one and the finisher moves are cool too I guess

>>723613678 (OP)
>What's wrong with the game?
Feels unfinished, I won't bother going into detail I just wish they'd worked on it for an extra year. Some in-game locations are hinting at a possible DLC, but since we aren't getting any at this point it's doubly disappointing.
>And is the first one better?
Nevertheless, I liked it better than the first game. The lootbox island expansion was more irritating that fun.

>>723614103
wut

>>723613678 (OP)
Yes. It's a massive downgrade with less content and to rub salt in the players wounds, they removed lolis and filled the whole game up with niggers.

>>723614691
>you can't fight the big bad dragon at the end of the game.

You can actually fight him. You fight him up in the volcano area if you just ride him all the way while he monologues.

>>723613678 (OP)
Big monsters are fun to fight at first but there's very few of them.
Every other minute on the trail you get assaulted by trash mobs who are extremely easy and just waste your time.
The concept for the story is cool but the execution is terrible, like they cut out a good chunk in the middle and you skip straight to the finale.

>>723614978
I'm not talking about that one and you know that. The even bigger evil dragon that they show you at the end of the game (unmoored world or however it was called)
>Hey wouldn't you like to slay this gigantic dragon? lmao get fucked retard

>>723613793
Dragon's Dogma Online fucking sucks. It's most definately not DD 2.0, it's more like DD 1.5 but littered with MMO bullshit. Boss battles in DDO take for fucking ever and the rage state is absolute maximum unfun. Only soullles gooks enjoy this trash.

>>723614010
Most things are worse

>>723614195
They've been at it since day 0 when the announcement dropped
Absolutely pathetic and a great argument for banning all third world IPs from posting

>>723613678 (OP)
Copy pasted e\groups of enemies spawn in every 15 seconds of walking. I would be amazed if someone tested this and walked in any direction in the game for 30 seconds and didn't encounter a group of goblins or saurians

I want more enemy variety and a lot more bosses, being able to have more than 4 skills set at once without modding, and actually good music that is at least as good as the soundtrack from the first game. And of course a dungeon that puts Bitterblack to shame.
But that ain't happening.

i heard every class now has only 3 abilities instead of 6????

this is the one thing preventing me from taking interest in the game, no way in hell im spending money on something like that when i can just play the original

>>723618051
we went from 6 to 4, warrior only got 3 in the first game so they did technically benefit.
The tradeoff is that all the weapons have some of the old skills built in to them now, but while they function I still want more buttons.
The 4 skill limit hurts the most on the class that comes with a built in switch weapon button and can use every weapon's skills, but the switch weapon skill takes up one of 4 slots and changing weapon doesnt change what skills you have bound. I had to mod it so that each weapon got its own 3 skills and then it was very fun, but thats when I wished I had more types of bosses to fight.

>>723613678 (OP)
It's fun for your first playthrough
make sure to at least get this 1 mod https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/51
So you at least have customization similar to DDDA

>>723614103
yes you can, are you computer illiterate?
if you are referring to windows defender flagging and auto removing your files you just have to restore them from defender. it's a pain in the ass and retarded but it still works.

>>723613678 (OP)
Dont listen to the first reply he is spewing a lot of horseshit. There’s nothing wrong with dd2 except for the fact that it’s unfinished. The second half of the game is extremely rushed it’s almost inexistent. One moment you think you reached the second half of the until then quite interesting intrigue about the queen regent’s shenanigans, the next you’re fighting the dragon and then game is over.
But what is in the game is extremely high quality and very very fun. If you like games that make you feel like you’re on an adventure, like dd1 or ocarina of time or, dare I say, btow. Gameplay is vastly improved over the first one even though some people will adamantly tell you there’s less skill slots (untrue). Pawns are way smarrter than in the first one and you can be a part of some epic fighting moments. The game is way too easy so one absolute must is to install a difficulty mode like simple difficulty tweaks. That’s the very minimum you need but there are some other cool mods but they’re not a must the game is already excellent vanilla just with a big boost of difficulty via a mod.

>>723620874
>Gameplay is vastly improved over the first one
It's a sidegrade at best
>some people will adamantly tell you there’s less skill slots (untrue)
very true and factual
>And you can be a part of some epic fighting moments.
Literal paid shill behavior

>>723613678 (OP)
Its literally the first game with better physics and warrior vocation and worse everything else. Still fun but a shitty follow up.

>>723621278
as a warrior only player from DDDA, I had a blast in DD2.

>>723613678 (OP)
>What's wrong with the game?
It is simply just trash in virtually every way. Bad music, ugly art style, poor enemy design, retarded progression, story is fucking trash, world is bland.
>And is the first one better?
Yes.

>>723613678 (OP)
I like it a lot.
It NEEDS difficulty mods. Crank that shit up high and the game gets very punishing and fun

There's a lot of schizos for some reason though, idk why. It's just a fun ARPG.
>>723621146
Gameplay is a mile and a half better I can't understand how you can even deny it

>>723613678 (OP)
You can post any picture from the first game, and there will always be die-hard fans praising or reminiscing about it.

You won't find it in 2, that should tell you enough.

>>723613678 (OP)
I liked both and from what I recall most of the complaints were directed towards performance issues, lack of anything too new from the first game (which didn't help the weak enemy diversity of the first game), and generally less satisfactory story. You also have divisive elements such as the new classes that aimed to be as diverse in focus as possible resulting in some returning classes feeling weaker and some not returning at all, meanwhile other classes benefited a lot from the changes, and the new classes minus 1 are all pretty fun to play. Classes are less flashy than DDO but more flashy than 1. My whole thing with it is that at the end of the day it's still a solid game, shit if this was the first entry in a new IP I could even be excited at this attempt if they were going to support it. But for me seeing the IP hit another game with half-baked but still good ideas is just disappointing. The only time "It's got promise" isn't cope is the first time, and the future of the IP itself is also looking pretty bleak. That said I did love my time playing both games, not sure I'd recommend it but each game had something about that scratched that itch for me.

>>723625080
Which mods can you recommend?

>>723625080
>nog pawn
Shit pawn for shit opinions.

Reinstalled it, but I am waiting for the expansion to drop before starting a new playthrough. Already have 100hrs on base game.

>>723625253
>The only time "It's got promise" isn't cope is the first time
eh, that seems to be a trend with Capcom IPs
DD1 on release was real rough but DA made it a classic

It's the same with literally every MonHun release iydk. Tri was lambasted by fans, but 3U fixed all that.
4, then 4U
World, then IB.
Rise, then Sunbreak... you get it
You'd think they'd learn their lesson from the previous cycle but they just don't seem to.

I don't think DD2's issues are deep-rooted enough that it can't be rectified with a DLC like DA. Just needs some big, punishing, Ultima Underworld map with a bunch of enemies and like a couple new Vocations and it'll work

>>723625450
nta but mods don't really help. I heavily modded it myself and still got bored

>>723614691
I know it's a minor thing but the camping actually annoys me a lot. I like the idea of camping out with your little party, cooking some food like you might get in FF15, chatting with the pawns by the fire.
It's actually pointless, other than the food buff.

>>723625539
Thats a good point. Honestly not sure why I had DA level expectations for 2 given capcom's track record but hey it was hard not to have faith, and I think all I cared about was it existed. I agree though, while there's always going to be some people not happy with the class changes and decoupling, I do think the core systems are good enough that a lot of the complaints can be fixed with a proper big DLC, maybe even toss in a DDO BBI style roguelike/low-level mode. Until that gets announced though, I'm keeping my hopes low. Capcom hasn't been exactly been winning favor from anyone lately

>>723613793
This.
What most fans wanted was the first game but fully realized.
What we got was another game that was just as half baked.

>more money
>more experience
>lots of time
>make a worse game than the first one
How is such incompetence possible?

it's less memorable than DD1 until the last like 5% of the game, combat feels good though
still way too easy and they didnt add enough new enemies but I like the Dullahan
this game was released way too early so it doesnt conflict with Wilds in any way, shouldve stayed in development for another half a year or longer
Dark Arisen is DLC but DD2 doesnt even have any so DD1 has more content

>>723613678 (OP)
Aside from it being worse than DDDA in every aspect that matters? Nothing much else

>>723614195
>people grab the first image that appears when you google dragons dogma 2
>AHHH IT MUST BE A DISCORD CONSPIRACY TO HATE MY FAVORITE MASTERPIECE!!
Dude, the game was just disappointing trash

>>723617456
This, we need to ban all the shills being paid to praise DD2

>poorfags are seething to this day because of denuvo
lol

>Dragon's Dogma 2
Whatever happened there.

>>723627385
Nah, I've just played long enough to see most of what the game has to offer.
Love the environments and been enjoying taking on the larger enemies, but it doesn't help itself with removing abilities, and does the same copy pasting of enemies that the first one did.
It's a fine game but genuinely just feels like a graphical upgrade to DD1.

As half baked as DD2 was you were lucky enough to get that out of Capcom.
Has Monster Hunter Worlds even got anymore content since launch or is it still rather barebones atm?

>>723625508
>expansion
Lol
It's abandonware
Give up

>>723627385
All I see is you malding at simple fact that Dragon Slopma 2 is vastly inferior to DDDA

>>723627650
He was fraudulent, Hideaki Itsuno?

If you ever play it again, download the custom difficulty mod and lower enemy general resistance to stagger. Now both of you are able to get BTFO'd into a wall or crawl on all fours. Also, download "No NPC No Enemy" and set the sliders to a higher number, enemies will no longer pop in abruptly and that means you'll have more fights with multiple types if they're nearby.

>no loli like in DD1
bad

>>723613793
Why are they against a dlc? It's likely under 7 digits and they could improve the base game and add meaningful content. What gives? Isn't it safe profit?

>>723613793
Did they ever fix the horrendous performance and the NPC pop in that was only like 5 feet in front of your character?

>>723627929
Announcement this year brother. All you have to do believe in the vision.

>>723628976
2 more weeks, trust the plan capcomxisters

>>723613678 (OP)
It's good but DA is overall slightly better. The "people" who are saying DD2 is shit are discord trannies that have been raiding /v/ since before 2's release.

>>723613678 (OP)
It's complete shit, just play the original

>>723631008
Discord tranny hands typed this post

>>723626401
Japanese people are like that, sloppy lazy and they cut everything possible to make it work with low effort.

I need to replay it again with mods.

>>723628394
It was made with expansions in mind, turning it into yet another Itsuno (the game's director) unfinished product when the game flopped both financially and critically.
Capcom gave him a vote of confidence after DMC5's success and let him cook for 5 years.

>>723625943
Yeah it's one of the most disappointing mechanics for me. You can only cook like 3 kinds of meat excluding their rotten/aged variations. No fish? No veggies? No mushrooms? I wanted to eat fucking dragon steaks, gryphon meat and weird chimera organs but no fuck you

>>723625450
>Gear Progression Overhaul (haven't actually tried this one, but wild loot is busted)
>Unofficial Dragon's Dogma 2 Patch
>Masterworks All
>Simple Difficulty Tweaks (to lower the rate at which you earn xp and dcp. I go with 30%)
>Dullahan
>Weaponlord
>Enemy Resistance Overhaul
>Monster Infighting
>Shield and Mantle Clipping Fix

Theres currently a large monster mod in the works, forget the name, but im waiting for that to release before doing another playthrough.

>>723633375
It flopped? What did the corporate clown expect? Fans ignoring his promises? Game sold 4m, that's more than he earned.