Thread 723616160

Why does UT/DR tend to attract this crowd? You don't see this in like Street Fighter or Donkey Kong.

>>723616160 (OP)
pandering

I liked Unreal Tournament and Dead Rising and am not like this so I don't know what you mean

Probably the heavy overlap with the Homestuck fanbase. Homestuck had characters representing the most insufferable communities on the internet and thus it became the melting pot watering hole for those communities.

>>723616160 (OP)
>why does the tumblr game attract the tumblr crowd
were you not around when UT was released 10 years ago and tumblr was still alive?

>>723616160 (OP)
It's simple, they know that only literal FAGGOTS check the game's wiki.

>>723616160 (OP)
I believe the developer had some association with homestuck, which was tumblr-core years ago, which was full of teenage white girls who invented some sort of privilege totem pole in a desperate attempt to virtue signal. Naturally, teenage white girls are some of the most privileged people in the entire world so they had to invent mental illnesses to insert themselves as the secret "most oppressed group of all" and you know how that has turned out.

>go through every "source"
>they're all second hand statements by characters who can't tell humans apart
>not a single one from Kris himself

>>723616160 (OP)
>>>/vg/

I'll wait for the real thread

>>723616723
nice headcanon!

>>723616160 (OP)
It appeals to kids with self-loathing mothers who didn't love them enough so they end up in 4chan or tumblr, and they get groomed.

I'm curious how the "kris can't be ambiguous because people they've known their whole life still use they/them!" people would suggest you write a character who IS ambiguous.
Like, say hypothetically Kris IS explicitly meant to ambiguous, how would you write this? Make all the characters who know Kris awkwardly avoid ever mentioning a pronoun, just referring to Kris as Kris and only calling Kris Kris? Or the even MORE awkward option of saying "he/she" every time?
Using they/them is the only way to do this that doesn't make dialogue sound overly fucking weird. It just happens to ALSO be how you'd refer to Kris if they were nonbinary.

>>723616160 (OP)
because Toby is a gigantic homosexual?

>>723616160 (OP)
i dont really give a fuck about this, but it is infuriating when you're talking about anything and some retard comes out of nowhere to get mad at you for getting his pronouns wrong. this is such a jobless issue.

hijacking the thread
how do we fix the doe without rape?

>Toby is a 4d-chess playing, narrative defying, 4th wall breaking genius
>both protagonists of both games are just my gay communist affirmation, tho (despite Toby already giving up on Frisk and calling him a boy multiple times)
Enjoy your thread while charafag is asleep I guess.

This fandom gets way too hung up on the "self insert" bullshit when arguing about whether Kris can be gender ambiguous.
A character doesn't need to be a self insert to have an ambiguous gender. Napstablook sure as hell isn't a self insert and people still headcanon him as male. Same with Seam and Monster Kid.
Kris isn't a self insert and you're wrong if you think he's meant to inherently be the gender of the player. But you can still headcanon him as male if you want like you can with those other 3, and "NOO YOU CAN'T CALL KRIS A GUY HE'S NOT A SELF INSERT" is a braindead argument to make.

>>723618927
napstablook is canonically a dude, toby himself calls him a he
with kris autists get upset if you call him anything but a dude
i personally think of kris as a girl but since he's also a dude i refer to her as he

>>723618740
Toby changed his mind. He now refers to both Undertale humans as girls.

>>723619085
General Deltarune fans go apeshit if you refer to Kris as anything but nonbinary. 4chan Deltraune fags go apeshit if you refer to Kris as anything but male.

>>723618740
I really don't want to believe what was said in that thread, but the way they reacted kinda has me believing that asshole is a big enough piece of shit to have done what they were accused of.
I really hope the wheat room in chapter 5 is cool wheat is cool.

This is all Toby's fault.
What a fucking cunt.
>>723618519
>locks the door
>closes the drapes
>does that in your pic
>people still think it was rape
lmao

>>723619348
anon...
noelle isn't the raped
kris is

>>723616160 (OP)
>Game has environmental storytelling

They are the target audience

>>723619395
Oh poor guy he enjoyed the tight doe pussy of his beloved childhood friend that grew up into the prettiest girl in town, and with whom he spent day after day scaring and teasing her as young boys do with girls they like.
He'll be scarred for the rest of his life.

>>723616160 (OP)
>I know the game calls it a red fruit, but I don't think that necessarily means it has to be an apple. It could be a strawberry.
>Erm... can you not fucking READ!? The game calls it a red fruit 5000 times, and apples are red fruits, so if you don't think it's an apple you haven't played the fucking game. It's not meant to be a stand-in for your favorite fruit, you only think it's a strawberry because you like strawberries and want to kill everyone who likes apples!

>>723616160 (OP)
>You don't see this in like Street Fighter
Never heard about Poison?

>>723619642
this is not the reaction of someone who wanted doe pussy in that moment

>>723616160 (OP)
because the original UD fans were homestuck fans

Real ass question for Deltawarriors
Would Kris dunk the SOUL in a glass of chocolate milk if you somehow successfully assembled one
Or would they drink it

>>723619745
It's the reaction of someone that wants to pretend he didn't enjoy it

>>723619814
kris would drink it
and then trap (you) under the glass

>>723619979
>Kris turns the Soul into cup nigga
Friendship achieved
I'm still sad that guy was wrong and we didn't get to be a cup, I really wanna be a cup

How high do you think the suicide count will spike if at some point Toby were to confirm Kris as a him?

>>723619745
>AAAAAAAAAHHHH FUUUUUUCK!!! THE PUSSY OF MY RICH CHILDHOOD FRIEND WHO IS MADLY IN LOVE WITH ME AND WHOSE MOTHER IS ALREADY PREPARING THE WEDDING AND THE NAMES OF OUR FIRST TWELVE CHILDREN WAS TOO TIGHT AND WET!!! HER BLOWJOB TOO SLOPPY!!! MY STEAK WAS TOO JUICY!!! MY LOBSTER TOO BUTTERY!!! I AM GOING INSAAAAANEEEE
What is his problem? Like, actually.

>>723620108
People will just reject him and claim his characters arent even his own, after he dies all his wrong doings will be corrected and he will be remembered as a lost soul on the wrong side of history.

>>723620108
Not gonna happen. If Kris has a gender reveal it will be a girl.

>>723620108
Me personally I'm more sad about not getting to be a cup

>>723616160 (OP)
I think it's mostly because of thee things. And I think it's more pronounced in Deltarune than it was in Undertale:
>The gender ambiguity of the main character paired with they/them pronouns.
>A cast of colorful diverse characters. Not diverse in the "diversity(TM)" sense, just that you have all those different monsters that look very differently from one another, which might still appear alluring to the lgbt crowd.
>One or two characters being gay (or bi).
To be clear, exploration of lgbt themes was never at the forefront of neither Undertale nor Deltarune, but it doesn't matter. For that crowd it's enough that you have something that either references lgbt without any deeper exploration (basic short gay romance between two characters as a subplot), or having things that stylistically appear similar to lgbt elements (the whole they/them of the protagonists) but which might be the way they are for unrelated reasons (allowing for self-inserting of the player, or a subtle nod to the plurality of entities comprising a protagonist).

It's a faggot game made by a faggot kike, what's there not to understand?

>>723620484
the faggot part

Me

>>723616335
Why is he crying? The game's creator agrees with him.

>>723621194
The game's creator avoided any question about it

>>723621312
Because the text is obvious. Robert even refers to the character in the third-person plural in conventions.

Kris is my self-insert so he's a guy in my game. If you're a girl then the Kris in your game is a girl. Kris is meant to be an extension of yourself, weather you (or he) likes it or not.

>>723618740
Seething incel cope thread

>>723621431
If it was obvious people wouldn't ask. If it was obvious then the answer would be simple.
Yet he still avoids it.

>>723616160 (OP)
>Why does UT/DR tend to attract this crowd? You don't see this in like Street Fighter or Donkey Kong.

>>723618468
i was reading a r*ddit post earlier about some voice actor dispute, apparently some chick goes by they pronouns, and someone in the comments made it his personal mission to correct anyone who said she or her

>>723621708
This is the correct way Tobartholomew wanted it to be

>>723618108
>just referring to Kris as Kris and only calling Kris Kris?
That's what they do in japanese games, or they use a nickname/title. For example in digimon time stranger they call (you) "agent"

>>723621708
>he's a guy in my game
Too bad all of the characters refer to Kris in the third-person plural, regardless of their (referring to multiple, thus being correct) in-universe familiarity with the character. This is maintained out of universe as well, when Robert refers to Kris the same way when speaking to fans.
>>723621818
>If it was obvious then the answer would be simple
It is. See above.

>>723616160 (OP)
>Why does UT/DR tend to attract this crowd
the amerimutt crowd?
its a jewish piece of work, they are drawn to it like golems to master

>>723621916
why does he avoid the question then?

Toby wants to appeal to tumblr without alienating the rest of the world, so he panders to them in a way that leaves plausible deniability or just some room for copium. Same reason he keeps teasing krusie despite openly favoring suselle.

>>723622159
He doesn't. He answers it every time he uses that third-person plural to refer to an individual.

>>723622164
>[Robert] wants to appeal to tumblr without alienating the rest of the world
Paradox. You can't appeal to ghouls without alienating humanity.

>>723621916
Hey, question
>>723618108

>>723621818
>implying
artists can be extremely autistic about how their work is interpreted
he sounds just like them

>>723622314
the answer is they simply don't want you to write gender ambiguous characters, ever
if you make a character who's neither confirmed male or female, it's seen as "representation" and making it up to the viewer would be "erasing" that representation they decided was there
they'll say it's because of some diegetic "canon" reason but that's the actual answer

>>723618108
>>723622314
>say hypothetically Kris IS explicitly meant to [be] ambiguous
The character is, that's the intent.
>how would you write this?
I wouldn't, I'm not a ghoul like Robert. I would pick a sex for the character, or let the player choose between two options: male or female.
>Using they/them is the only way to do this that doesn't make dialogue sound overly fucking weird
No, using a singular pronoun that applies to one of the two human sexes is the only way to do that.

>>723616160 (OP)
>Obnoxious minority fanbase
>Very pretentious plot
>3deep5me subplot and theory-crafting only people like Matpat is interested in
I liked Lisa the Painful and YIIK better anyways.

I know how to settle this
frisk has a 2 striped shirt
=xx chromosome
kris has 1 striped shirt
=x or xy chromosome

>>723622498
Asriel has like 4 stripes in his battle sprite does that mean Asriel has down syndrome

>>723622474
>using a singular pronoun that applies to one of the two human sexes is the only way to do that.
>Making a character's gender ambiguous by... making them explicitly male or explicitly female
At least try to keep your trolling somewhat logical, Robertfag.

Toby attracted the tumblr audience since very early on. Undertale has a lesbian romance as part of its main plot.

>>723622267
He does. The question I'm saying he's avoiding isn't WHAT pronoun he's using, it's WHY.
When asked why they instead of he or she he doesn't answer or says "Skip". If the answer was simple he'd say WHY to clear things up so he doesn't get asked anymore and it would stop people from talking about it as well.
But he never said why, which is why this discourse is continuing not only here but any other place where people talk about the game.
He's choosing to let this mess continue for a reason. Either he believes the mess created by the reveal would be even worse, or it's important to the story and naturally he wouldn't want to spoil it.

>>723622531
>uses his retard strength to kick your ass
you tell me

>>723622737
It's a damned if you do damned if you don't, if he clarifies all his tumblr audience turns on him like scott's fans did for FNAF after finding out he donated to republicans. A minor thing like that and you lose the god faith of his faithless fanbase, and whatever connections in the industry that holds.

>>723622648
>Making a character's gender ambiguous
Now read the part where I explicitly said I wouldn't do that.
>>723622737
>The question I'm saying he's avoiding isn't WHAT pronoun he's using, it's WHY
Again, obvious: Robert is an anti-human ghoul who hates the human basis of sex and tries to deconstruct it through language. He's a "femboy" (read: an early-stage autogynephile), so his motivation is clear.

>>723622905
You're STILL not answering the question. If the point was to deconstruct sex, why doesn't he say so?

I don't know if it's better or worse.
>Stupid gender bullshit nobody actually cares about but you can kind of talk about the game
>Janny's pet phishing children and getting everyone banned
Like I know the answer is probably that we're straight up running out of posters from the bans, but damn this shit's bad.
I'm genuinely confused as to where in the fuck the next chapter is supposed to be since the Festival's tomorrow, but maybe it's supposed to be the Asgore's flower shop Dark World?

>>723622803
He's retarded for putting himself in this spot to begin with. If it's for story reasons I would weigh if it's really worth it and not make changes in the story itself to accommodate using "He" instead.

>>723623001
The voices told me, and they haven't been wrong about anything yet.

>>723623001
He realized he's wrong and is now choosing to act like he was pretending to be retarded the whole time

>>723623091
If you know anything about 4chan schizos you'd know they are deathly allergic to NOT doubling down on every single retarded opinion and belief that comes out of their mouths

>>723623001
>If the point was to deconstruct sex, why doesn't he say so?
Because the part of his audience who isn't aware that he's a ghoul would no longer have any doubt. It's a smaller portion than the ones who are ghouls, most likely, but he doesn't want to lose that "broad" appeal so naïve streamers like Joel stop paying his to do his marketing.

>>723619395
Ahh I remember seeing the thorn ring in my inventory during my chapter 3 weird route, I just laughed because I knew about the scene in chapter 4.
Kris, you silly bitch, you're just going to make me enjoy this more.

>>723623001
>If the point was to deconstruct sex, why doesn't he say so?
Because the part of his audience who isn't aware that he's a ghoul would no longer have any doubt. It's a smaller portion than the ones who are ghouls, most likely, but he doesn't want to lose that "broad" appeal so naïve streamers like Joel stop paying him to do his marketing.

Reminder that Noelle's crush on Susie is derived from her feelings of her missing older sister.
Suselle is emotionally incest, the worst kind of incest.

>>723621708
Damn so my Kris is a girl because the game chopped his dick off and inverted his ballsack or some shit?
This is some tranny propaganda.

>>723621893
I saw a streamer playing Deltarune and they instinctively called Kris a boy and one of the chatters corrected the streamer everytime until the streamer finally saw the messaged and used neutral pronouns for Kris.
And then slipped back to calling Kris a boy an hour later.
It was funny.

>>723623513
It's completely asinine. Deltarune fans enforce Kris's pronouns with religious fervor.

>>723623024
Like what kind of festival is the festival even supposed to be? Halloween? Christmas?
Knightmare Before Krismas?

>>723623360
By all accounts, Suselle should not work out. Noelle doesn't even like Susie for who she is, she just likes the ideal version of her in her head

>>723623513
>a human follows human instinct and instinctively refers to a character based on his perception of the character's sex
>ghouls shriek at any sight of human behavior and "correct" it so that the human follows their ghoulish tendencies
>the human can only comply for so long before falling back to his intuition and learns the ghouls have no power over him (at least, from a distance that can't be cleared with a rifle)
Poetic.

>>723623360
Desselle is hot though?

i think of they/them as a literary device for the player because kris is supposed to be teh facsimile of the player so you can project onto them during the gameplay. Thats not to say he doesn't have a 12" shlong built for dinobussy between his legs, but that any player picking up the game is accomodated for rather than strictly being tranny shit

>>723616160 (OP)
>they/them

>>723623917
Yes
It is blood related incest
The best kind of incest

>>723623964
>[K]ris is supposed to be teh [sic] facsimile of the player so you can project onto them during the gameplay
And yet, the "Are you a boy or a girl?" screen is mocked when you start the game.

>>723623001
By coming out with a firm answer, that settles the issue, one way or another, for better or for worse. By being coy about it, he either gets plausible deniability or keeps people talking about it, with discourse filling discussion. It's in his best interests to shut up

>>723624065
oh yeah i forgot about that *shrugs soldiers* im going to stand over there now *walks a few paces away from you*

>>723624065
I haven't even seen any trannies interpret the vessel creation that way
You're somehow seeing more trans metaphors in shit than they are

>>723624012
Would

>>723624438
Any particular reason you responded like a Tumblr girl desperately trying to conceal the heightened anger brought on by her period?
>>723624481
It's a deconstructed character-creation sequence, built entirely to pull the rug from the player and show that your choices don't matter. I wonder if a ghoul like Robert would apply that philosophy in real life...
I'm kidding. Of course he would.

>>723616160 (OP)
>>723616160 (OP)
>Why does UT/DR tend to attract this crowd?
I can assure you that Unreal Tournament has never attracted them... you are thinking of Quake

>>723616160 (OP)
Frisk - Female
Chara - Female
Kris - Male
Even Wikipedia rejected non-binary shit btw.

>>723622498
Would this make both Vessel and Frisk girls while Chara and Kris are boys?

>>723616160 (OP)
>Why does a faggot game attract faggots

>>723620476
>>723622164
>>723622803
It's a lot simpler than that >>723619440

>>723619341
dafuq?

>>723628071
Don't reply to the schizo that brings his off-topic off-site drama to these threads constantly.

>>723616160 (OP)
>clearly write a boy
>cal him they/them
Why would Tobias do this?

>>723628071
He's talking about yesterday when someone accused that faggot that spams bullshit about chara of trying to phish that one guy they found a month ago.
And unlike what they're saying here >>723628316
It's both on site, because they're getting admins to ban everyone, and arguably more on topic than the shit he spams considering the whole thing revolved around that rumor going around for years about Ralsei being based on some dead kid. (Who turned out to be not dead and also real)

>>723628357
One, his name is Robert. Two, because he's a gender-ideologue ghoul and needs to push and normalize the narrative to as many people as possible.

>4 schizo posts in a row
How did things get this bad?

>>723616652
They forked away from Fandom to an independent wiki months ago, so this is all on the wiki editors themselves. Here's what his gender is on the old Fandom wiki for anyone curious.

>>723618519
Putting Dess back in the picture, unironically.

>>723621431
it's not obvious when you have to cite 50 difference instances to prove your head cannon being right

>>723628909
>4 "schizo" posts in a row
>It's three posts of spam and one post you're seething about because you don't like it

>>723628909
>>4 schizo posts in a row
Where?
>>723629057
>head cannon [sic]
It's in the text of the game, and even in Robert's own speech when talking about the game. That's about as canonical as you can get.

>>723629138
still not cannon though keep seething citing for fandom wiki schizo tranny

>>723623024
>Janny's pet phishing children and getting everyone banned
what the actual shit did I miss?

>>723623024
>"THE FLOWER MAN, TRAPPED IN ASYLUM." ~ The Prophecy.
>"Chapter 5, The Field of Pink and Gold. The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy." ~ Gerson.
>"The Bluest Flower, A disciple of my speech. Shy to no camera, And a specimen of Elegance and kindness. Should you meet, Please give my regards." ~ Miss Mizzle.
>Kris's piano music before entering the Dark Sanctuaries includes music from both past and future moments in the game (including Piano That May Not Be Played Very Well before, again, they're in the church dark worlds). This one, kris_piano_shop, isn't Hip Shop, but could be the Flower Shop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNAQ4RJXsZU

>>723629346
>still not cannon [sic] though
Is this a variation on the "Why?" Game, where instead of "Why?" you say "No"?
>tranny
Never mind, you're just retarded.

>>723629424
>>723628316
The stalker is bringing off-site drama because he thinks his thread nemesis is responsible for it. Nothing to do with Deltarune.

>>723629638
Oh I see what's going on

>>723629424
So, if somehow you haven't posted here since June, some turbo retard from /vg/ has been the admin's dedicated "shit up deltarune threads" monkey that people have been banned and warned for reporting or calling them a fag was accused of trying to phish the account of that one retard they found a month ago.

>>723629454
>"The Bluest Flower, A disciple of my speech. Shy to no camera, And a specimen of Elegance and kindness. Should you meet, Please give my regards." ~ Miss Mizzle.
well there's something people just glossed over

>>723629689
fuck off /vt/roon

>>723616160 (OP)
Because Toby Fox is a faggot himself, and by extension the games he makes are outwardly and obviously gay.

>>723629638
>he thinks his thread nemesis is responsible for it

>>723618519
1: Put Dess back in the picture.
2: Her and Kris having consensual happy sex.
3: Being forced into a arranged marriage to a good man.

>>723629796
It's just more evidence the flower bouquet will parallel the dead children.

>>723618108
>Like, say hypothetically Kris IS explicitly meant to ambiguous, how would you write this?
Joke about it. Like have Susie refer to Kris as a male only to start wondering "Wait, you are a boy, right?" You could even have a scene where she asks Toriel only for Toriel to be cut off before she can answer.

>>723619745
It is if you assume he wanted it but hates himself for wanting it. He enjoyed did, he knows he enjoyed it, but he hates the fat that he did.

>>723619642
>of his beloved childhood friend that grew up into the prettiest girl in tow
That's not fair when the second prettiest kid in town is either Catti or Monster Kid.

>>723620108
None, but the suicide rate when Suselle wins will be pretty high.

>>723620476
>To be clear, exploration of lgbt themes was never at the forefront of neither Undertale nor Deltarune,
Yes, but there is a LOT of subtext in Kris seemingly wanting to be a monster.

>>723630286
This already happens in Chapter 1. Lancer says the party is formed by boys AND girls.

>>723621916
>Too bad all of the characters refer to Kris in the third-person plural, regardless of their (referring to multiple, thus being correct) in-universe familiarity with the character.
Jews really did a number on you guys. You're like some gay, deranged, obsessive english teacher. just screeching about language all fucking day long.

>>723620108
Won't happen. Robert will keep using the third-person plural to refer to individual characters because his ideology demands it.
>>723630568
>pushing back on subversion means the subversives won
I wonder why you'd want me to think this...

I'm so glad that these people are finally dying out and being realized for the fad they are
Maybe now they can stop abusing the good will of retards and actual trannies won't be confused as to why everyone is turning against them

>>723622310
He isn't trying to appeal to people on the far right, anon.

>>723630692
>Won't happen. Robert will keep using the third-person plural to refer to individual characters because his ideology demands it.

>>723623614
She does like Susie as she exists. However, I think it won't work out because what she wants from Susie she can't provide.

>>723616160 (OP)
This is like asking why does Burger King attract fat people

>>723630692
>pushing back on subversion means the subversives won
Yes.

That's not even me being ironic. If you are pushing back vainly against somebody that means you already lost.

>>723630708
>I'm so glad that these people are finally dying out and being realized for the fad they are
Trump voters?

>>723630784
That's what I said; he's appealing to ghouls.
>723630801
Not worth it.
>>723630917
>That's not even me being ironic
No, it's you being demonic, as you've clearly allied with the ghouls to help their demoralization efforts.

>>723630967
No, you're thinking of brown people

>>723630998
where do you stand on collargate?

>>723630998
>That's what I said; he's appealing to ghouls.
Ghouls are people on the far right.

>No, it's you being demonic
Demons aren't real.

I mostly don't care about trans people other than the fact that I've met trans people and I've met far right people and I would kill the former to protect the latter. Not as a political issue, but a matter of cleaniliness.

>>723631014
Self proclaimed white people are also dying out. Meanwhile, what you consider brown will continue to grow and grow.

>>723631134
The tide is going to turn. Human history is full of human beings culling the populations of, or wiping out entirely, undesirable animals.

>>723631242
>wiping out entirely, undesirable animals.
Nuremberg. Haiti revolution. Russian revolution. French revolution. The list goes on and on.

>The tide is going to turn
Animals can never oppose a human. All that awaits you now is a mass grave.

>>723631067
>where do you stand on a ghoul abusing his alleged companion?
Why do you ask?
>>723631075
>Ghouls are people on the far right.
We haven't killed any of your speakers unprovoked.
>Demons aren't real.
Then what am I talking to?
>I've met trans people and I've met far right people and I would kill the former to protect the latter
Agreed, although I think you're getting "former" and "latter" mixed up, since you just called to the people you'd protect ghouls. I don't doubt that you'd protect ghouls, for the record, since that's what you're doing.

>>723629575
>NOOOO I NEED MY CITATIONS NOOOO PLEASEE GIVE ME MY CITATIONS PLEASEEEE!!!!!
go b-ack to Fandom wiki thanks

>>723616160 (OP)
This has more citations than my research paper, crazy

>>723631430
The only citation I need is text from the game itself, as well as Robert's own words, to prove that he's a gender-ideologue ghoul who wrote his side's propaganda into his games.

>>723631539
>still crying about citations
are you unironically the one who put 50 citations in fandom wiki?

>>723631407
>We haven't killed any of your speakers unprovoked.
Read a history book, please.

>Then what am I talking to?
A human being.

>Agreed, although I think you're getting "former" and "latter" mixed up
Nope. Even in this brief conversation you have shown that you do not deserve teh gift of life.

for fucks sake

>>723621194
He spent time citing 50 sources to prove it's they/them, which means no-one believes him

>>723616160 (OP)
Friendly reminder that Chara is a minor, and Toby, a pedo

>>723631595
Are you "unironically" (the word you're looking for is "genuinely") deflecting?
>>723631649
>Read a history book
The one where you kill upwards of a hundred-million people, at least half by sheer incompetence?
>Even in this brief conversation you have shown that you do not deserve teh [sic] gift of life
Yet you'd kill a trans person to protect me...
>>723631753
So there's at least fifty instances, of either in-game dialogue or Robert's own words, using the third-person plural to refer to the character Kris.

>>723631539
Why are you keep calling him Robert, is it some kind of twisted UT/DR fan's way of showing loyalty to the lanky faggot?

>>723631887
>Are you "unironically" (the word you're looking for is "genuinely") deflecting?
you can ironically be the fandom guy if you were shitposting thoughbeit

>>723631134
So you admit that trump voters will forever outpace you

>>723616160 (OP)
>h-he has long hair! what is he, a GIRL?
thats a he bro. toby made a boy and called it a they

>charafag
>an anti-white jeet
>oiko-schizo
>wandering gcj-fags
lovely thread
>>723631941
he's convinced everyone that isn't him is actually a demon

>>723631887
>The one where you kill upwards of a hundred-million people, at least half by sheer incompetence?
Yes, as well as the one where your side kills about 80 million in less than a decade through sheer malice.

>Yet you'd kill a trans person to protect me...
Because their life is worth more than yours. Not a hard thing to understand. Probably not all Trans people either, just the few (And it's like one or two) I've met.

You people love to talk about in groups, right? Yet, you seem to struggle to understand that I don't consider people I instinctually and pragmatically dislike part of my in group. Somebody that is generally easy to get along with matters more to me than a insane right wing schizo.

>>723631941
>Why are you keep calling him Robert
It's the name on his birth certificate, it'll be the name on his grave, just like his fellow autogynephiles who've gone through with changing both their name and body.
>is it some kind of twisted UT/DR fan's way of showing loyalty
Fuck no, and fuck no.
>>723632129
>he's convinced everyone that isn't him is actually a demon
No, just the ghouls.

>>723632053
I doubt that since it's pretty unlikely anybody will be voting Trump next time. For a variety of reasons.

>>723616160 (OP)
I don't care if his official pronouns are they/them, he is He/Him to me and there nothing you can do to stop me from doing so

>>723632272
Based.

I'm mostly the same way. Though I'll still say they on other places cause I don't care enough to argue.

>>723632272
PLEASE CITATE!!!!!

>>723616160 (OP)
Tranny game, tranny players
Tranny thread

>>723632216
>their life is worth more than yours
You have an odd idea of "worth."
>Not a hard thing to understand
In your hands, it very much is. Their lives are worth more, yet you'd kill them. Make it make sense.
>Somebody that is generally easy to get along with matters more to me than a insane right wing schizo
You're saying that deceitful, delusional, anti-human ghouls are easier to get along with than anyone opposed to them... and, as you said, you'd "kill the former to protect the latter." See my conundrum?

>>723632480
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author

>>723632264
And yet they will vote against you every time

>>723632567
>You have an odd idea of "worth.
Nope, it is very simple in fact.

>In your hands, it very much is.
In the hands of everybody who is part of my in group.

>You're saying that deceitful, delusional, anti-human ghouls are easier to get along with than anyone opposed to them
I'm saying that I've spoken with trans people and I've spoken with anti trans people.

The latter is worse.

>and, as you said, you'd "kill the former to protect the latter." See my conundrum?
For the same reason why I remove weeds. It's not political.

enough with the schizophrenia, post doe

>>723632614
>Every time
The position of president will get thrown around like a hot potato until the country implodes, more likely.

>>723632735
NO! Post Ceroba!

Dammit Toby if chapter 5 weird route isn't what I hope it is and you pull some bullshit I'll do anything I can to get a refund

>>723632706
I wish every leftist was as dumb as you. this is the inner narrative that your side desperately tries to keep hidden because they know that it ultimately comes down to killing/oppressing purely out of preference. thinking like this is exactly why the republicans hold all three branches of power.
you people are a bloodthirsty retards and you thoroughly raped genuine human progress

>>723632706
>In the hands of everybody who is part of my in group.
Ah, so your in-group views lives of higher worth as those who should be sooner ended. Got it.
>I'm saying that I've spoken with trans people and I've spoken with anti trans people.
>The latter is worse.
You'd rather be pro-ghoul than anti-ghoul, which mean you're a ghoul yourself.

>>723631887
>So there's at least fifty instances, of
It is not that sources exist, it is that
>he knows people don't believe it
>he thinks he needs a source to prove it
>he doesn't think any one source is good enough or definitive
>he keeps going back adding more sources each time he finds a new one

Everyone says the sky is blue. You disagree, it's transparent, so you gather mountains of technical evidence to the contrary, and no matter how hard you try everyone still says it's blue. Because it is blue.

I know you're trying to pretend this is stupid and you're right, I just wanted to put it in words even a 5 year old can understand to show how weird you're being. :/

>>723618519
rape her the way she likes

>>723632735
Why would you ruin her genetics with your stinky human DNA?
Also
>yellow father
>white daughter
I guess he didn't use his DNA lol

>>723632735
this thread was doomed to be schizo from the beginning, unfortunately
maybe if we gambled on a second thread while this one's still up...

>>723619896
>Takes Berdly to the hospital
>Adjusts his water bottle and radiator to make him more comfortable.
>Flips out when you try and continue the run
He didn't enjoy it.

>>723633332
>Everyone says the sky is blue. You disagree
Poor analogy; I'm the one saying it is blue, because the plain fact is that Robert designed the character to be "ambiguous," as both he and the characters he writes refer to the character in the third-person plural, which is intended to communicate an "ambiguous" or "non-binary" identity. Everyone saying otherwise is coping, either by rewriting the dialogue in their heads, like I did when I saw a grammatical error while reading fanfiction at 13, or doing mental backflips to stay in denial that Robert is a gender ideologue.

>>723633406
arent the father and daughter same color?

>>723616160 (OP)
>when everyone betrays you, there is only one girl there for you

>>723634372
If I say at one point the sky is clear, orange, black at night, cloudy or even octarine, it doesn't invalidate me and everyone else on the planet saying it's blue.
If you say it's anything but clear, even once, you're shaking and trembling as now your 50 citations have a 51st embracing what everyone else agrees is true.

The same goes for gender. If you ever admit, even once, that he's a boy, your they/them is dead in the water. Because your worldview is flimsy and even those in your safe space don't agree with you on it.
Imagine if the name Chris, sorry, Kris, was replaced with Kristina... you'd be completely fucked by everyone calling him a her. You're nuts.

>>723634597
They are, anon should have his eyes checked
and kill himself for being a cuck fetishist

>>723633332
>Everyone says the sky is blue. You disagree, it's transparent
Technically a blue jay isn't blue its brown, but even in text books it says its blue. There is something to be said about shared preception

>>723634597
*cough*

>>723632735
The only way he can be truly happy
The only way she can be truly happy
The only good ship
The good end.

>>723634950
Would Noelle protect Kris from evil?

>>723635026
Yes

>>723616160 (OP)
Because that's the crowd the games were made for.

>>723634852
>If you ever admit, even once, that he's a boy
"Admit" implies it was ever Robert's intention to make the character male. It wasn't. He's a ghoul, so he made the character to conform to his ghoulish worldview.
>your worldview is flimsy and even those in your safe space don't agree with you on it
What is "my worldview," exactly? I don't think you have a firm grasp on it.

>>723634098
>subtle vulva

>>723635054
Yet she wanted to cuck him with Susie and telling him to go away, while Susie actually chased off Monster kid for bullying Kris

>>723634950
Anon. Shes a lesbo. If she ended up with Kris she'd be lying to herself and would end up miserable which would make Kris miserable

>>723635161
Not the canon route. In the True Route she barely noticed Susie after chapter 2 and wanted to spend time alone with Kris, much to Susie's dismay

>>723634950
>>723635026
God dammit, I like both directions
>>723634934
That's still pretty close

>>723635328
snowgrave is not the true route XDDD

>>723635074
I'm sorry anon. We're on the same side of thinking this gender stuff is dumb but how you've been talking this thread advertised you as believing in it.
I hope we can both have a smile on our faces after this.

>>723635194
>she can be herself with Kris, openly admitting he's one of the very few people she's not too scared to be weird with and that Kris is the only one who knows how weird she is
>gets all tense when talking to Susie, feels like she has to make up lies about her friendship with Kris, something which puts even Susie off for a bit
>all of that not even in the weird route, but the shittier route
Susie was scary. That's literally all it was about Noelle's fascination with her. Noelle just has some wires crossed when it comes to scary stuff, something which may even be caused by Kris' pranks. If not for the distance between Kris and Noelle caused by whatever happened to Kris that's a big part of the story which we don't know yet, they would've been much closer by now.
She even tries to fix that when she feels Kris is back in the weird route, as she explicitly states while literally getting closer and closer to him.

>>723631884
Just because Toby changed his mind and thinks she is his waifu, doesn't make him a pedo. It's his creation, officer.

>>723636005
>how you've been talking this thread advertised you as believing in it
How much Tylenol DID your mother take when she was pregnant?

>>723632735
I keep reporting the schizos for being off-topic but jannies won't do shit.

>>723636253
As long as it pertains to the game---and the ghoulish, subversive ideas within---then it's on-topic.

>>723636429
I wasn't talking about just you, but that was a nice confession you think of yourself as one.

>>723616160 (OP)
westerners are just braindamaged, there's probably something in the water in america. There's a reason why Toby Fox would rather interact with his japanese fanbase.

Kris is a boy because he goes after girl monsters. Girls dont go for girl monsters, they only like werewolf dick.

>>723636149
This is what I meant, anon.
You're very combative to the point where you come off like someone who thinks the FPBP is wrong because you're trans and not because you're an autistic sperg who has a very specific definition of correct that no-one else seems to agree with, causing a lot of blue-on-blue that is your fault.

>>723636772
>Toby wishes he was Japanese
>"Toby must hate westerners because they're baka gaijin and not because he's a racial cuck"

>>723636772
>Toby puts a bunch of LGBTQ+1 shit in his games
>Acts surprised when his fanbase becomes overrun with the most unhinged gender goblins
People are drawn to escapism because they have something they need to escape.

>>723637024
I'd hate my fanbase too if it was mostly composed of troons and other alphabet animals. I don't fault him at all.

>>723636027
>That's literally all it was about Noelle's fascination with her
She trusted Susie with Dess's guitar. You lose.

>>723636630
>I wasn't talking about just you, but that was a nice confession
So you were. As proven, "Everything preceding the word 'but' can be discounted."
>>723636964
>you come off like someone completely different from the person who can be gleamed from the things you say and what exactly you're combative about
Again, how much Tylenol?

>>723616160 (OP)
Why are they so obsessed with trying to make him weird?

>>723637317
Ask Robert, he supports and defends their ghoulishness.

>>723636803
>Girls dont go for girl monsters, they only like werewolf dick.
R-really?

>>723637134
Pfft that's nothing. Typical behavior of a girl trying to do whatever to make the person she THINKS she likes comfortable.
>you lose
Funny you have something so pathetically insignificant that you have to resort telling yourself "h-hah g-got him"

>>723637401
why are asking me like a dorky shutin wolfman that just heard dog dick is in vogue now?

>>723636253
post doe anyway
or dino, I'll take either

>>723637401
Well it's on the internet, it must be true.

>>723637376
how does acting like a sperg on a taiwanese rhizome cultivation forum stop toby from corrupting the youth?

>>723637921
It doesn't, it just helps to call out ghouls to those who might be naïve about them and their influence.

>>723616160 (OP)
>given gender neutral pronouns because it's obviously and intentionally left ambiguous
>"zomg they're just like me"

>>723630917
Amusingly correct. A lot of politics ends up being definitional gotchas, so as long as you engage with "the enemy" on "their terms" you're conceding ground. Barrelling forward like a tard is just a better tactic in terms of owning the libs. Elaborate discussion on tumblr-originated genders is a job for historians.

>>723638023
I think you'd have better success elsewhere, maybe twitter?

>>723637305
I actually think you're one of the more on-topic schizos, Robert-san.

>>723638027
>it's obviously and intentionally left ambiguous
So both language and basic reason need to be mangled, like a mother apparently not knowing her own adopted child's sex, or "humans" in this world apparently not resembling real-world humans in any way on account of being sexless.
>>723638231
Good one...

>>723632272
Based. Headcanon is a pendulum.

>>723638691
hit a nerve?

>>723639564
Wrong post?

>>723637401
In UT/DR it's actually goatcock.

>>723637305
>Again, how much Tylenol?
Have a nice day anon. Enjoy Trump whilst he lasts and try not to throw stones in your autistic greenhouse.

>>723616160 (OP)
>why do shipbait games about muh sòycial anxiety attract troons
really op

>>723633161
>this is the inner narrative that your side desperately tries to keep hidden because they know that it ultimately comes down to killing/oppressing purely out of preference
Stopping somebody from oppressing others is not oppression no matter how much insane spin doctoring you will do. As for killing, please. I'm willing to just deport you if it makes you feel any better. You have no place in human society. That's not personal, just factual.

> thinking like this is exactly why the republicans hold all three branches of power.
you people are a bloodthirsty retards and you thoroughly raped genuine human progress
No, it's not thinking like this why the republicans are currently in power. It is the naïve assumption that you can reason with your enemy, even though they are beyond reason and have been for a very long time.

>>723636027
>That's literally all it was about Noelle's fascination with her.
No, she can tell she was a caring person deep down inside who just wants to have fun. That's what attracts her to Susie. She's the lovechild of Dess and Kris that never existed but she would love to have.

>>723635517
Both Kris X Noelle and Noelle X Susie are pure and beautiful.

>>723621853
Everyone ignored you so I felt bad and gave you this (you)

>>723640885
>Enjoy Trump whilst he lasts
Don't worry, with enough luck, we'll abolish elections and make it so every succeeding President is an appointee of the previous one, if not a direct blood descendent. Won't hold my breath that it'll be within this term, though...
>>723641669
>It is the naïve assumption that you can reason with your enemy
The assumption that got a man killed on September 10th, yes.

>>723621194
>Why is he crying?
Just look at him, he would never pass as a woman.

>>723634934
Their close enough that I find it easy to believe Kris and Noelle's daughter just doesn't go out enough.

>>723628923
>FANDOM is less faggy than the new wiki
GRIM

>>723642071
A man was not killed on September 10. A animal was. A animal who spend his life making a mockery of the very idea of reason and debate.

>Don't worry, with enough luck, we'll abolish elections and make it so every succeeding President is an appointee of the previous one,
Ah yes, the side of reason and debate. Clearly and genuinly, these are people that should not be put down like rabid dogs with a bullet in the neck.

In a sane world Toby would be arrested and executed for grooming so many children with his 'games'

>>723642401
In a sane world anybody that seriously thinks a video game can groom a child would be chemically castrated and turned into a second class citizen.

It's fucking staggering to me how obsessed the right wing is with grooming when literally every major figure they support is involved with sex scandals, rape, human trafficking, and actual grooming.

>>723642270
Thank you for proving that, yes, the time for debate with the "other side" (if you can still be described as such) is over. Frankly, it was over a long time ago; I'm just glad we both finally agree on one thing.

>>723616160 (OP)
>Thread made 9 hours ago
>ctrl+f "robert" (21 results)
Either the thread lolcow was genuinely up at 2am for no real reason or he's a jeet

>>723616160 (OP)
Why do DRfags feel the need to constantly beat people over the head with how non binary kris. Did tumblr really mindbreak this fandom THIS BADLY?

>>723642602
>Thank you for proving that
I think it was proven around the time Bush was talking about weapons that didn't exist.

>>723642071
>>723642270
Girls, you're both ugly

>>723642732
The whole thing is a cavalcade of people misunderstanding the story and applying questionable logic..
>Kris is shown to be his own character.
>Kris is never described as being male or female.
>Kris gender is somewhat ambiguous.
>This means Kris doesn't have a gender or believes that he doesn't have a gender.
>Denying this means you are transphobic.

>>723616723
>Toriel is such a terrible mother she doesn’t know the gender of her own child
… yeah sounds about right

>>723616723
Toriel really should know considering she changed his diapers.

tism and troons are like water on fish

>>723642732
>Why do DRfags feel the need to constantly beat people over the head with how non binary kris [is?]
Ask the game's creator. He's the one who made it canon, because he's an ideologue who agrees with them.

>>723643196
I would honestly ask him if I ever got to ask him shit in private.

>>723643196
>you can't make a game that represents your worldview! you have to make a game that represents MY worldview!
preach my twelve year old nigga

>>723642901
To be fair between the fact that other non-human character are they/themers (Seam, MK, napstablook), and the fact that Toby doesn’t seem to acknowledge the gay shit he puts into his games AT ALL (has Toby even directly stated undyne is gay or bi) I think it’s fair to assume that kris IS meant to be non-binary Toby just has enough restraint to not beat the player with it

>>723616341
Honestly it seems like Toby wants little to do with them.

>>723643336
I think it's plausible but I also think making the leap of that to "Gendered Kris is homophobic or transphobic" is silly. I would at least vaguely understand it if they were 100% confirmed to be non binary. But as it is I think it's fine to just assume it's mostly meant to be up to the audience.

Frankly, everything being so in the middle doesn't help matters. If we learn everything about Kris BUT his gender then I might have a easier time accepting it. If it's like Chara or Frisk, where so much of them is deliberately up to interpretation, then I really doubt it.

>>723643262
>>you can't make a game that represents your worldview!
Some worldviews do need culling from public discussion, either by shaming or legal force, to maintain cultural sanity.
>twelve year old
Is who would argue against the above, yes.
>>723643336
>Toby just has enough restraint to not beat the player with it
That's not restraint, Robert just fancies himself a good propagandist.
>>723643401
He's one of them.

>>723643860
>He's one of them.
Proof?
I don't follow this series or the dev very much, but from what little I know about him he moved to Japan and basically never interacts with any of the western community.
It seems like (keyword seems) he just actually wanted to make an earthbound inspired game and that was it. And it just got latched onto by very obnoxious people in the west.

At this point I'm gonna start calling Kris an "it" with how obnoxious every side of this stupid argument is.

>>723643860
>Some worldviews do need culling from public discussion, either by shaming or legal force, to maintain cultural sanity.
I agree.

When is X going to start banning right wingers agains?

>>723616160 (OP)
Friendly reminder that japs don't give two shits about pronounfaggotry and you should always ignore western fans of games like this.

What's the point of being a quirk chungus thread persona when you're deliberately avoiding posting images?

>>723644431
whats she from i wanna cum on her forehead

>>723644039
>Proof?
>>723622905
>He's a "femboy" (read: an early-stage autogynephile)
>he moved to Japan and basically never interacts with any of the western community
Because he hates the West and wanted to export his ghoulishness to a country that already has a line of acceptance for the West's worst habits, like democracy.
>it just got latched onto by very obnoxious people in the west
Because he pandered to them directly by referring to an individual character in the third-person plural, yes.
>>723644279
What "quirk chungus [sic] thread persona" are you referring to?

>>723644254
They don't give a fuck because they don't overrun their entire fandom.
They do tend to give a fuck when their posts/art cross the ocean thanks to the algorithm and get bombed with hate for not making the characters gay enough or black enough.

>>723644254
Based and true.

>>723644513
>Because he hates the West
As opposed to you?

>>723616160 (OP)
Funny how no one gave a single fuck when Hollow Knight and Ori did it. This culture war shit is so manufactured.

>>723644513
>brownjeet thinks he'd get free gibs in a police state
kekaroo

What did Tony meant by this?

>>723644563
I think the West is in a cringe, gay phase, like a boy wearing eyeliner, and needs someone to knock some sense back into it.
>>723644574
You HAD to have replied to the wrong post...

>>723644796
Furthering the Krusie agenda only to bring it down later on.

>>723644796
>PedoSky
He means that everything I'm saying about him is yet to be disproven.

>>723632735
Post THE PRISM KNIGHT instead

>>723644850
>I think the West is in a cringe, gay phase, like a boy wearing eyeliner, and needs someone to knock some sense back into it.
Then you hate the west, or at least you don't care for it. You can't hate or dislike reality and love a fantasy version in your head and them claim you like the thing.

Genuinely: Move to saudi arabia or Hungary. It sounds more like your kind of place.

>>723644850
>You HAD- *beats all the brown out of your skin*

>>723644230
When are you going to kill yourself, resetard?

>>723644946
I always find it weird that modern 4chan unironically worships social media platforms like sports teams

Undertale nerds are the same breed as Homestuck nerds that you would see at conventions in the early 2010s. HRT hit that community like crack did to the ghettos.

>>723644254
japs are incapable of schizotheories and can never truly appreciate tobykino
>>723644796
concept art for chapters 5-7
i'm surprised the fandom isn't going crazy trying to work out the context

..YO!

>>723645172
When I'm 120 years old and I've decided my life spend killing right wingers was long enough.

>>723645254
>japs are incapable of schizotheories and can never truly appreciate tobykino
They fucking love Twin peaks so I doubt they have that issue.

>>723645026
>a fantasy version in your head
You have no concept of the world before World War II, never mind 1776, do you?
>>723645105
I'll take your non-sequitur as a concession, and accept it.
>>723645201
What part of my post has anything to do with what you said?

>>723616160 (OP)
Why does home stuck? Or any tumblr shit?

>>723616160 (OP)
Nigger have you perchance seen the "game" you're playing?
It's like going to a pride parade and asking why are there so many gays here, you're literally playing a tumblrtroon simulator.

>>723645201
it's like how people here still act like reddit is the ultimate boogeyman while the entire site has been festering in twitter screencaps

>>723644796
another krusie moment in the making

Reminder that "gender" is, and never was, a real word. You are talking about his sex.

>>723644254
>le heckin' based nipponese-tachi-sama don't care about- ACK!
https://twitter.com/theory_junkie/status/1973682267324371316

>>723645295
>Sprite artists on xitter randomly deciding to collectively make a Kris resprite mod for the Noise in PT.
Finally, a good trend from these faggots.

>>723645382
I know plenty about both, but if your argument on "Liking the west' relies on liking "Pre world war 2 west" then You don't actually like the west, you like a version of the west you only read about and never experienced.

It's very fun to idealize and fantasize about living in, say, Middle Earth, Hogwarts, or 1776 USA and pretend you would go on fun adventures. You shouldn't use it as the basis for your actual political ideology or how you think the world should be run. Because the world somehow reverting about two centuries is about as likely to happen as wizards being real.

>>723645459
It's just earthbound if it was made my lgbt angst riddled teenagers

>>723645692
Japan is being wokified. Guilty Gear creator also bent the knee and turned the femboy trap Bridget into actual troon

>>723645668
Kris sex? Uh, don't mind if I do

The older I get the more I realize that "west" and "east" are such pretentious dogshit terms huffed by retarded autists trying to make themselves look enlightened
America and Japan: that's literally all you actually mean

>>723645845
Okay gay pedo, but if you want to fuck him then at least self insert as Susie

>>723620241
Snowgrave involves hurting Noelle a bunch.

Also Kris clearly wants Berdly's cloaca.

>>723645713
>if your argument on "Liking the west' relies on liking "Pre world war 2 west"
*Pre-1776, sorry that wasn't clearer.
>You shouldn't use it as the basis for your actual political ideology
It's not. Not what you projected, at least...
>>723645787
>turned the femboy trap Bridget into actual troon
Not much of a change, then.

>>723645946
No.

Kris is female when I have sex with them.

the ellipses alone are a hallmark of a chunni retard raised on shitty anime

>>723645692
>>723645787
Yeah, unfortunately they have their activists too. America and WEF have been pushing hard to worm their way into Japan for quite some time and its starting to bear fruit. But its still no where near the level it is in the west. Not even close.

>>723645983
>*Pre-1776, sorry that wasn't clearer.
That's even more laughable.

>It's not. Not what you projected, at least...
Then what are you doing? How do you like the west if your entire basis on liking it is based on a west that you never experienced and isn't coming back?

>>723645692
No... they were supposed to be the based chuds that sexualize humans...

>>723646059
>i'm going to use stylization to project traits onto my opponent and dismiss his arguments based on that projection
>>723646168
>That's even more laughable.
I've seen what makes you cheer.
>isn't coming back
Then all that "No Kings" business is a massive waste of time, glad we agree.

>>723646103
You think their newly-elected government, which has stronger anti-immigration, will do something about this? Japan was quick to get the ball rolling against that compared to what I've seen in the US.

>>723645946
>possessing Susie and making her rape Kris
That's a pretty advanced fetish you have there, anon

>>723646361
>I've seen what makes you cheer.
That is, by default, less laughable than believing that you can just will the Ten colonies back into existence.

>Then all that "No Kings" business is a massive waste of time, glad we agree.
Having kings is a waste of time either because the reason why monarchies declined wasn't that everybody willfully decided that monarchies were over.

I dunno what demographic I fall under where I like Undertale/Deltarune but I genuinely cannot get past the first few pages of Homestuck because it feels so dreadfully boring

>>723616160 (OP)
>undertale welcomes gays so lgbtqshbddhjvcdeeuijfdrttkkkkjgfszzvklklkkknbvvcdsswerfffffyuioppkbgfresssxIgbtqshbddhjvcdeeuijfdrttkkkkjgfszzvklklkkknbvvcdsswerfffyuioppkbgfresssxddsswerfffffyuioppkbgfresssxlgbtqshbddhjvcdeeuidsswerfffffyuioppkbgfresssxlgbtqshbddhjvcdeeuijfdrttkkkkjgfszzvklklkkknbvvcdsswerfffyuioppkbgfresssxddjfdrttkkkkjgfszzvklklkkknbvvcdsswerfffyuioppkbgfresssxddd acceptance is there to some extent
>game has fans that like that kind of stuff
>donkey kong doesn't have any of that
>so it doesn't have fans of that kind of stuff
>street fighter has poison
>so it has fans that argue about poison's gender and some fans are okay with that kind of stuff in games to some extent (as long as they're hot)

>>723645692
>"This one useful idiot invalidates your entire argument, silly goy- I-I mean, fag!"
Nice try, Rabbi.

>>723646454
It's pretty common with Noelle.

>Noelle becomes your new host.
You have her and Kris fuck.

>bros why hasn't the heckin' based Chud Shogunate forced Toby to stop giving people pronouns?
do you people have even a shred of self-awareness to realize how ridiculous and pathetic you sound

>>723646507
It's called having good taste.

>>723646747
I want to gut that fucking milk cat, man.

>>723646059
>chuuni
You mean manchild. Speak English you weeaboo faggot.

>>723628472
Whats going on in this webm?

>>723616160 (OP)
>boy with unkempt long hair
>he must be they them!

>>723646103
>America and WEF have been pushing hard to worm their way into Japan for quite some time
Right, like 1945, when they neutered the Imperial House into near-irrelevance, like the British Monarchy.
>>723646505
>believing that you can just will the Ten colonies back into existence
You have a problem with projection.
>the reason why monarchies declined was
Terrorism. In America, then in France, as organized by a coalition of the Non-Ruling and Dissident Elites.
>>723646747
Every Authority has the responsibility to cut off subversive nonsense at the root, lest there be a repeat of 1776, 1789, 1917, or 1949, yes.

>>723646428
One can hope, but I am not familiar enough with Japanese politics to give an actual informed opinion. I am just happy to see pushback there much faster than what happened in the west. It gives a little hope at least.

>>723616160 (OP)
I'm still going to refer to him as a male

>>723647141
>Terrorism
>as organized by a coalition of the Non-Ruling and Dissident Elites.
Who won because?

>>723647101
He will be when I'm done with him

>>723647248
I'm going to refer to him as male unless I want to fuck him.

Then Kris is female.

>>723647268
>Who won because?
They were relentless and organized, like anyone in Power or trying to usurp Power.

>>723618519
break noelle until she rapes kris
free dess so she rapes kris

>>723647141
A monarchy simp is actually kind of refreshing, what's your favorite royal family?

>>723647454
So they won because they were more competent and capable than the ruling class that existed?

>>723618740
the only credit I give to Toby is that he realized he can grift his mentally ill fanbase for decades. you can't convince me deltarune isn't a long con to keep his brand alive and make money out of merch.

>>723647495
>they were more competent and capable
Sure, by the same token that any Monarch who took rule from any other Monarch led a more competent and capable army than the one in Power. You just think one's magically better because you agree with the anti-Monarchical ideas that one group of usurpers chose to indoctrinate their armies with.

/his/fags are so dull

>>723648314
>You just think one's magically better because you agree with the anti-Monarchical ideas that one group of usurpers chose to indoctrinate their armies with.
Of course not. I agree with one because they won, and therefore meritocratically proved their right to rule. That applies to kings and republics in equal measure.

>>723616160 (OP)
Mental illness attracts like.

>>723645946
>>723646454

>>723648473
>I agree with one because they won, and therefore meritocratically proved their right to rule
So you agree, then, that Authority comes from the ability to exercise Power. So much for all that high-minded navel-gazing about the "Consent of the Governed" and whatnot that came from the so-called "Enlightenment"...

Our (Me and Noelle's) child

>>723649815
It's just blood.

>>723650323
true! no big deal!

>>723616160 (OP)
UT was a huge tumblr game before tumblr died.
>Colorful and quirky cast of characters
>earthbound like
>etc...
It's a magnet to these peeps.
DR is a soft sequel/AU to UT so of course it's still going to attract them.

>>723616160 (OP)
GO the fuck back

>>723616160 (OP)
ACK yourself, troon

>>723651992
When do we move past wojaks already? That shit's been around for nearly 2 fucking decades

Reminder

>>723652170
I am still proud I influenced the mod creator to make one for Undertale. I use both and they actually make both games better

>>723652170
"gooner mod" is the craziest input there

>>723652708
gooner mod for deltarune would mean kris puts the soul in her pussy instead of her chest and she can feel it whenever you move with WSAD

>>723652170
>ghouls shriek in pain as humans distance themselves from their disease
This crowd didn't form around Robert by accident, by the way.

>>723652708
That most likely means he's projecting the gender transformation porn they most likely watched onto the mod.

>>723618108
>It just happens to ALSO be how you'd refer to Kris if they were nonbinary.
oh, you're retarded, never mind then

>>723616160 (OP)
It's a game made for and by tumblr/reddit dwellers.

I think the funniest example of wiki tranny brainrot I found was the Plants Vs Zombie Wiki, which has warnings at the top of pages explaining what pronouns the fucking plants use

>>723653712
Why is he using a hammer and there's a cat floating above him?

>>723654119
Genuine question even you just ignored text how the fuck did you misinterpret the sock puppet as a hammer?

>>723654610
It looks like Susie’s axe sprite.

>>723616160 (OP)
Because Toby deliberately tries to attract them.

reminder that alphys is based in deltarune

>>723618519
force kris to interact with her

>>723616160 (OP)
>why does the tumblr crowd like the work of the guy who did the music for homosuck
it's a mystery

>>723642995
A quick search tells me that Kris was in first grade when he was adopted by the Dreemurs, though google has become famously unreliable.

Some student I taught got expelled for violence and the inability to clean themselves.

They kept showing me custom underage models they'd made.

>>723656440
has to be earlier than that, noelle says that she feels like she's known kris forever, which implies that he's in some of her earliest memories
kris was likely adopted at around 3 years old, but no older than 4

When I make Kris whip out his human male penis
(It was also erect but I had nothing to do with that)

>>723616160 (OP)
Kris is male because he needs to be able to impregnate Susie

>>723621194
Because he knows cutting off his willy was a mistake.

>>723656072
>wants to fuck asgore
>wants to fuck undyne
>ships her own students
>had a life sized anime "doll"
what the fuck is alphys problem

>>723656512
Of what characters?

>>723657864
awkward
insecure
lonely
i think she does ultimately mean well though, she seems happy that kris and susie are getting along in the later chapters

>>723643401
>wants little to do with them
>keeps appealing to them anyway
tourist

So what's going to happen when Susie eventually finds out that she isn't a guaranteed part of the prophecy?

>>723652708
not that crazy when you look at this thread

>>723658696
probably get pretty dejected that she's been once again picked over for someone else
she'll probably get some inspiration from somewhere and realize that her not being specifically chosen gives her some advantage in the situation, maybe the ability to bend the rules to some extent

>>723658696
But she is though

>>723657864
Lonely degenerate bisexual
just like me

>>723616160 (OP)
>Make a character's gender ambiguous to allow the player to fill in the blanks
>Instead invite the most annoying people on the internet to artistically point out every mention of a fake gender identity
It's no wonder Toby stopped showing his face

Toby knows the tropes he is working with and exactly what he's doing. Fostering this kind of rabid emotional and sexual identity investment is really good for merch sales

>>723652708
He knows humans are naturally sexy.

>>723658881
Not really. All of the parts that she's featured in can just as easily be apply to Noelle. Kris and Ralsei's parts are undeniably talking about them, whereas Susie's only mentions it by "girl" or "monster". Nothing really identifiable to her specifically.

>>723660032
vessel also fits into the role of the cage
and yes, it will come back
the thrash machine was tracked for at least 2 chapters after you make it, likely to keep reminding you of shit you did in ch1

>>723642995
>Toriel really should know considering she changed his diapers.
>>723642931
>Toriel is such a terrible mother she doesn’t know the gender of her own child
wtf are you guys on about. How much lore has been changed since I last played this in 2016

>>723647812
its eerily like a cult

>>723660446
>clicks on a thread for something he hasn't played
>write a paragraph explaining something in detail for me
what causes this

>>723636772
>toby fox is there
>but not zun
wtf where is zun

>>723660638
it's very likely that undertale and its broader fanbase has a 'third parent' syndrome with the younger fans of the game
it was very important to them at a critical time in their young life and thus treat it with the same affection a child would their parent, hence the name
you can see this with other brands, namely disney, nintendo, sony (vidya), lego, star wars, marvel, pokemon, etc
it's almost impossible to break someone out of this mentality, and i have noticed it a lot more in the past 15 years than i did before but i'm sure they've been out there longer

>>723652170
to be fair its easier to ask what DOESN'T Xitter get mad at

>>723660954
This sums up the same thing I've noticed with AIjeets these days

>>723636772
Wait since when is yoko taro fat

>>723616160 (OP)
Is this a shoop? I can't find this on the wiki anywhere?

Is this thread what happens when someone plays Undertale during their foundational early years and then grows up to browse /pol/?

>>723661243
>They're willing to uglify a character's wiki page to own the hacker known as 4chan.
>Meanwhile on the old Fandom wiki >>723628923

>>723660446
Play Deltarune, or at least watch someone play chapter 4.

>>723660032
I just don't think there are any switcharoos when it comes to the prophecy. What we are playing now is very close to what was meant to be, Noelle fits THE GIRL/THE ANGEL part better imo

>>723661597
It's more like what happens when you ban everyone that's actually played a game and leave behind only shitposting autists that think they can "kill" a game by making obnoxious posts on online forums.
A similar thing can be seen in like, the TF2 forums on steam which nobody has really used in 10 years but like 5 mentally ill retards have been ritual posting this whole time to "kill" the game.

>>723660446
Those anons are exaggerating, but just play Deltarune and form your own opinions.

>>723616160 (OP)
Because Toby Fox continues to encourage it by not putting his foot down.

>>723661856
Even here still a lot of TF2 OPs I see are demanding to know why the game didn't die even though they bought bot-farms to spam it to death. Never forget the one especially stupid lad who set up bots to spam Casual Matchmaking to death just barely before Valve fucked all of the botters in the mouth, and he woke up one day to see he got a permaban from TF2 and a threat against his entire Steam account if he didn't stop.

>>723645964
But Noelle likes being hurt

>>723661181
Genuinely one of the worst adult human designs desu.

>All of these faggots obsessed with Homestuck 2
Lmao rope yourselves
>Even more faggots calling the retard Tobias / Robert
HAHAHAHAHA

>>723661370
>high school drop outs on 4chan manage to figure out parasocial relationships
Christ you kids needed to actually stay in school. This is how politics, celebrities, and everything else works. The human brain is designed to associate positive feelings with individuals so people latch on to things they like as if they were loved ones. You kids do it too with your favourite game devs, or Vtubers or whatever it is you like.

>>723618740
>>Toby is a 4d-chess playing, narrative defying, 4th wall breaking genius
Oh man
This is the same shit they said about Togashi and then HxH turned out to be dogshit
What can we expect from Andrew Hussie Jr.?

>>723662253
why is frisk doing the
>well, it can't be helped. I'll help you out this one time
anime girl expression

>>723662291
BASED jeetchad

>>723662556
Maybe the artist liked it, idk.

>>723662059
>Some poor stupid fuck set up a bot farm in 2024 JUST before Valve finally unleashed the long overdue nuclear ban wave on the bots and their hosts.
>Gets permabanned from TF2 and a threat against his account shortly after, and wasted his time and money.
Proof? Holy fuck that's hilarious.

faggot game attract faggots, faggot

>>723662059
I think part of it is just the inability to accept a lack of control over the situation. Like that one guy who gets really mad about You Know Who. It probably bugs the shit out of him that there's still gonna be people that know about You Know Who, and You Know Who is still there, no matter how bad he freaks out and screams at people.
The same way like the autists that are screaming at TF2 have no real capacity to get people totally uninterested in them to start hating TF2.

>>723646980
Failed man trying to touch an actual man

>>723663325
Genuinely why? So he can write that he was assaulted "unprovoked" on public transportation and have pictures of the bruises to prove it?

>>723662480
>This is the same shit they said about Togashi and then HxH turned out to be dogshit
Anon hunter x hunter was published in 1998

>>723663064
Yeah it's even a notable thing in fandom spaces that it's basically crash-outs from people who are aware they can't control the fandom in any way, so since they can't control it they need to destroy it

>>723663517
It's a tranny, anon. He's likely gay and this was his autistic way of hitting on the guy. In his delusion, he probably thought he was acting cute or something.

>>723616160 (OP)
Autism and gender non-conformity have heavy overlap

>>723662740
Faggot came here to bitch iirc

>>723662062
she likes bdsm not a toxic relationship.

>>723663938
Hence, trap threads on 4chan 12 years ago

Did we just now get autosaged?

>>723616160 (OP)
>You don't see this in like Street Fighter

>>723667018
Don't think so?

>>723667018
Just a slow thread.

>>723616160 (OP)
Why does it burn your ass so bad what a fictional character is called, you fucking snowflake?

>>723667569
Not sure why it burns anyone's ass, but I half hope Toby retires from game dev after Deltarune so that all the theory crafting schizophrenia can finally rest. These people are trying to analyze every single fucking line of dialogue from UNDERTALE hoping it has some kind of Chapter 5 spoiler.

>>723667375
What are they like in bed?

>>723669934
Male Kris is a sub for Dess.
Fem Kris tops Asriel.

>>723670148
Fem Kris to me is way too autistic to ever top.
>Wants to keep wearing at least some item of clothing.
>Can't look you in the eyes.
>Initially just kind of mumbles and wants you to do everything.
>Prefers a position with minimal physical contact.

>>723616160 (OP)
Undertale troons do be like that same with project moon troons
Also fpbp

>>723618519
Why do people draw her with a long snoot when her sprite shows its short

>>723670505
It's cute.

Artist even admitted it doesn't work with how they draw her normally.

>>723616160 (OP)
>Trannies are this obsessed about their self insert character
Never played Undertale or Deltarune and don't really care but holy shit why are they so attached to this character in specific? Wasn't there a similar meltdown when it was confirmed that Bayonetta had a kid with some dude because
>Reeeee they have to be gay!

Fucking take a break from the internet for awhile holy shit.

>>723670286
FemKris is into doggystyle, totally.

>>723670873
Absolutely. Especially if you combine it with dog roleplay.

>>723670839
> why are they so attached to this character in specific?
Cause in universe they are largely meant to be their own character despite initially seeming like a self inert.

>>723670505
artistic liberties
the artist who drew that also did a reference sheet pretty much explain that he'll draw her snout differently depending on what looks best for the angle, from sprite accurate to comedic long snoot

>>723670286
i feel like femkris would get very passionate out of the blue sometimes and refuse to comment on it later

>>723671215
It's typical tsundere behavior. If you do fuck them in a position that isn't doggystyle they'll almost certainly leglock you while clinging your back, but refuse to admit it afterwards.

>>723671019
It's wild how little art of Doggy FemKris there is.

>>723665648
She likes both, and she has a rape fetish

>>723671916
>Femkris only looks you in the eye when you call her a good girl and pet her head.
>ESPECIALLY during sex.

>>723662728
>top image

>>723671916
despite how little of it there is, it's all peak

>>723672249
God, I want to sexually bully this girl. Then call her a good girl and put a leash on her when she stops fighting back.

>>723650735
Need a version of this but its that pic of the dude launching himself at the officer from a while back

>>723652156
Never this site is creatively braindead and AI just made it worse. This site is forever doomed to regurgitate slop from Reddit and fucking Twitter now

>>723616160 (OP)
How can anyone pretend that pronouns aren't fucking evil and its your duty as a moral human being to fucking crush it?

Singular they for example, is a fake invention by israelis. Stop using it and ruining the English language. You don't refer to ANY singular being as "they". Ever.

>>723618108
>>723620476

What part of there is no such thing as non-binary or singular they do you not understand? Your entire argument hinges on a premise invented by genocidal faggots who hate Europeans.

>>723651215
Ironic considering how the old tumblr fanbase was less anal about the gender autism

>>723672249
I like when humans are dressed like animals. Like the full pic of this I cannot post.

>>723630568
Incredible subversion. Israel is destroying the English language so badly that people cannot even use pronouns correctly, and you are actually demonizing someone who correctly points out that there is no such thing as singular they, only plural they. Singular they was invented in the late 90s as a way to push for English subversion to make people accept the gender pseudoscience as something real.

Like, you are literally fucking the basics of the English language, but you dare talk back to someone who fights back against it.

>toby gets arthritis can no longer directly do the shit he looks
>magnum opus revolves around losing control of your body with and not doing the shit your passionate about
Hmm…

>>723620108
As funny as that would be I REALLY don’t see that ever happening just from the way deltarune’s been set up. It’d be retarded as a twist since it relies on EVERYTHING refusing to call kris a guy for “reasons” and if Toby wanted Kris to be a dude he could have just established it in Ch1 when no one would have any autistic stake in it.

What would this godforsaken fanbase be like if Kris WAS confirmed to be a dude

>>723673080
ch2 was very not subtle about kris being upset that he couldn't play piano properly anymore with (you) controlling him
ch4 even dedicated an entire scene about this, toby isn't pretending his injury is something he likes having to deal with

>>723673570
something something non binary yuri erasure
instead of just non binary erasure

>>723673570
Geniune shitstorm when people figure out that Noelle likes Kris, and way more seething at the weird route existence, even the Susie bro moments i would say
People are kinda okay with sneedgrave nowadays because they just call it yuri

>>723673570
Total meltdown.

>>723673080
>>723673607
>Toby is even copying OMORI now
Lmao he killed asriel incoming

teenagers on the spectrum don't know what a street fighter or donkey kong is

>>723616160 (OP)
deltatroons will look at this and then tell me with a straight face this game isn't for trannies and weirdos

>>723674672
>omori
i believe toby to be more based with that, he's stealing directly from the classics
he'll rip off corpse party

>>723675076
it's not
the mentally ill will always gravitate towards something, and the something just happens to be deltarune

>>723675158
>and the something just happens to be deltarune
yeah i wonder why...
maybe its because the game was specifically designed for them, that's why there's only furshit and lolsorandum garbage everywhere in this garbage game just so the mentally ill can feel right at home

>>723675089
>that VN
The most unforgettable horror porn game I've ever played. No other game had a bunch of elementary schoolers gangbang a teenage girl against a wall. And the teenage girl loved it. No other game I've played had a 17 year old bishonen guy drink a 14 year old girl's piss and chase her down the hall to rape her, only to wind up getting anally raped by a 32 year old fat man. I still remember the scene where a 16-17 girl was hiding under a bed as her same age best friend was having sex with that same 32 year old fat guy on top. She heard every moan, bed shake and sound. In the wrong end she was discovered under the bed by her friend and made to join. A most terrifying scene was when an unwilling girl relives another girl's sex memories. The girl in the memory consented but the reliving girl didn't. It didn't matter that she was mentally screaming, her body in the memory did all the motions and actions as in history. It's like mind control rape except the victim was fully aware. Another scene the same girl and a friend were almost raped in a magic sex ritual, saved by the girl's older sister, and the backlash made the older sister want to rape her younger sister and friend.

The loli in this pic is freakishly lewd and once disguised herself as a teenage girl, fucked a boy until he nearly came, transformed back saying
>You thought you were having sex with a highschooler weren't you? I'm an elementary schooler all along!
And leglocks that boy, forcing him to cum inside her unprotected, when he screams in fear upon learning this. This isn't even getting into the tentacles, the gay sex, the lesbian sex, the incest, the sequel's mother/daughter lesbian scene, etc. The first chapter alone contains lots of lesbian sex scenes with an unavoidable girl masturbating in the bathroom. Truly horror is intrinsically connected with sexuality.

>>723667569
Least projecting non binary undertale fan

>>723676712
meds

>>723676898
it's a pasta
a very clever pasta made by someone who's played the games, even

>>723676898
It's thread culture, chud.

>>723652156
the people who made OC left and were replaced

>>723616160 (OP)
UTDR fans uphold this as the peak of non-binary representation and if you disagree even slightly you're a bigot.

>>723616160 (OP)
>kris obviously canonically identifies as non binary
>but i don't believe in that anyway, i hope we can ungroom him

>>723616160 (OP)
cuz dk is always called he?

>>723662008
>put foot down
>/v/ spergs either instantly drop the game or rope
>don't put foot down
>everyone is convinced you're actually a 4d chessmaster who's secretly on your side

Deltarune is dogshit and rightfully forgotten by now.

>>723616557
What I do not understand is how tumblr still exists. The site is up but the usual crowd doesn't frequent that place save for the few holdouts of tranny tRPG essay writers. Instead there is this sort of diaspora in the eras, boorus, discords, and of course the same 4 websites. They seem to be this group of internet gypsies that seem to cause no end of problems to whatever they migrate into and out of.

>>723682584
>What I do not understand is how tumblr still exists. The site is up but the usual crowd doesn't frequent that place save for the few holdouts of tranny tRPG essay writers.
Because when tumblr nuked the porn, 99% of the crazy fucknuts jumped ship to twitter, the site that people here worship as a god

>>723676712
This is really missing some of the best parts. I came buckets when one of the girl’s was fucked in a pool and the chad kid who liked her was forced to watch. The ending cg with the shot of the girl’s limp legs had me in diamonds. I also love the fact that all the tomboys have big boobs. And the scene where the main boy gets a double blowjob from his tomboy childhood friend and younger sister was great. The OVA had nice original scenes too. Once that chad kid was holding back a door when the ugly middle aged fatty used his tick to break through the door, aiming his dick right at chad kid's anus and lifted him into the air with his long dick. But we can't forget the double blowjob the main boy gets from his tomboy childhood friend and his little sister. Why do you keep on forgetting https://files.catbox.moe/8wpfo0.jpg?

I doubt nothing will change in the long term even if Toby confirmed Kris's gender as either. There will still discourse.

How did this thread last all fucking day?

>>723682947
Deltatroons love their Homestuck 2

>>723682947
it has a ragebait op image and janny loves those so he ignored it
thread's been pretty slow too, so most anons who want actual discussion are wary
not that it matters since the thread's almost over anyways

>>723682914
>if [Robert] confirmed Kris's [sic] gender
He did. The character, despite being a singular entity, is consistently referred to in the third-person plural both inside and outside of the game. Because he's an ideologue.

>>723683836
>Robert
lmao worshipping faggot

Wow what the hell makes people to post like this?

bump

>>723676712
>pic
>Hot-I mean oh no!

>>723673570
Besides the ones wanting to rage
Nothing much
Everyone sees kris as male anyways

>>723684080
>worshipping
You have something entirely backwards.

>>723683291
jannies like undertale so you can have 30 threads up at any given time and it's fine, oh but you wanted to talk about this game for 2 days in a row so that's a general, we'll now stalk the new threads created page for the next 24 hours and instaban anyone who tries to talk about it

>>723616160 (OP)
I don't get it, if this hack doesn't wanna hurt the tumblrinas fee fees why doesn't he just made gender an option like onionsmon:
>Male
>Female
>Something else
I get he wants to be all quirky by making an "neutral character" and shit but it's just confusing in the long run.
>>723616482
The only good games ITT

>>723685048
>hurt the tumblrinas fee fees
Ghouls deserve to have their feelings hurt, at the very least.
>Male
>Female
>Something else
There is no "something else" in human taxonomy, unless Kris has been castrated.

>>723616160 (OP)
Zoomers are like that when thye aren't acting like wiggers. It is pretty terminal but nothing can really be done about it.

>>723684984
lol deltarune threads were getting deleted less than a week after release. this thread is only up because it's a culture war thread

>>723685450
>nothing can really be done about it
Enforcing some, any standard of cultural sanity, either by shame or by force, is an option.

what if all humans in utdrverse are referred to as they
what would you do then

>>723686378
Then that further proves Robert is a gender-ideologue ghoul whose vision of humanity bears no resemblance to reality.

>>723686507
yeah, im glad there are no yellow humans IRL
>buht what about
doesn't count

>>723684984
>jannies like undertale
Kek what