Thread 723641565

do you think mental illness affects the enjoyment and quality of video games?

>>723641565 (OP)
Yes just look at /v/

>>723641565 (OP)
>Autism + ADHD
>Has been re-reading and forgetting the same sentence for the entire day to escape reality

>>723641565 (OP)
Ii think everyone's zoned out while reading and had to go back a couple of pages.

The "has to read the same sentence 40 times" isn't ADHD. It's just how every starter reader reads books. It goes away after having read 20 books or so.

This is like complaining that ADHD people need to look at their controllers when the game prompts to press a certain button. It's just beginner issues.

I swear the entirety of Gen z think they have ADHD or attention deficit because they don't realize you need to get better at activities over time. Especially immersive hobbies.

video games do be like that

That image is fake, Left is reading a storybook which is very easy to grasp whilst the right is reading something complex which requires rereading in order to comprehend, Or maybe it's just something they have no interest in and are forced to read due to it being like homework. Different concepts being branded as the same here. completely braindead

op's image is some retarded made up shit with no basis in reality

>>723641852
I've read about 50 books and occasionally I'll zone out and forget what I read too. Sometimes my mind wanders, that's normal. ADHD is an extreme form of that.

Mental illnesses have been completely neutered by attention whores using them as accessories to rack up unique snowflake oppressed minority points on their twitter bio.

>>723641565 (OP)
so are adhd people just retarded?

>>723641852
>>723642127
I’ve read 100s of books and with ADHD it’s never been easy. If there’s even slight distractions it would take me 20+ minutes to read one page. Tell me that’s not a real mental illness

>>723641852
This guy is correct
t. reader

>>723641565 (OP)
I can do both. What am I?

>>723642225
Always were

>>723641565 (OP)
Mental illness enhances vidya

>>723641565 (OP)
>do you think mental illness affects the enjoyment and quality of video games?
idk

>>723641565 (OP)
Autism is not mental illness, it’s just a Tylenol overdose. Get over it,

>>723641565 (OP)
No, if anything it increases it. What normo is gonna play Tamriel Rebuilt for months.

>>723641565 (OP)
Why Ken struggles so much to read?

>>723641565 (OP)
i do left for things i like and right for things i dont, what am i

>>723641683
this is me

>>723641565 (OP)
Autists are often experts within their fields, what value does having adhd bring?

>>723641565 (OP)
>>723642541
likely. I'm 100% suffering from some mild undiagnosed shit, and I often find that I'm the only one in my group of friends and relatives that actually immerses himself in a video game. I can play games like thief or deus ex for hours because I like to explore every single corner, and sometimes just sit in the shadows forever just thinking, either processing what I'm seeing or planning my next moves. mind that I'm not doing this because I'm confused or slow, I'm doing it solely because thinking feels extremely good to me.

Psychology is the niggers of niggers.
Don't become what they need to be above.

>>723641565 (OP)
>autism is when you get immersed in fictional works you enjoy(possibly also for escapist reasons), these dumb peepee poopoo neurotypical normies totally wouldn't get it and they would NEVER do it teehee
I now regret calling people autistic retards on the internet 15 years ago, it might have contributed to the epidemic of insufferable bitches self-diagnosing and pathologizing completely normal behavior to make themselves look more special

>>723643040
I got the shittiest autism that makes me horny for rouge the bat. Surprisingly I doesn’t help me at all in life.

>>723641565 (OP)
whenever you post more than 3 sentences and you get a shitpost meme reply, remember this image.

>>723641565 (OP)
schizophrenia makes it sometimes very difficult, yes

>>723643140
>normies totally wouldn't get it and they would NEVER do it
But this is true. You can easily tell by someone's play time he was truly immersed in a game. If he finished it on average playtime, he was not immersed, but he treated it like a job. Double average playtime? This is a man who played the game because he lived in it. Normalfags don't do that, ever.

>>723643314
Does one personality solve the puzzles while another one does the combat? How long do they take turns for?

>>723641565 (OP)
Literally not how ADHD works. They can focus really well on things they enjoy, so someone with ADHD can focus on reading a book as long as the person enjoys the book.
It's just they start drifting hard if they don't inherently enjoy something.

Whoever made that pic is a retard.

>>723642868
He's American.

>>723643438
schizophrenia is hallucinating and being delusional, not having multiple personalities

>>723642967
Prove it

>>723643438
i dont have hallucinations personally, and psychosis which isnt the same as MPD, but what impacts me the most is paranoia inside and outside of the game

>>723643590
* dont have many hallucinations, mostly its just visual like i see people that arent there, or sometimes i see multiples of the same person (see one person walking behind a column and see 4 walking out) - but its rare and mostly i just see flashing lights

>>723643498
>Whoever made that pic is a retard.
You should have already guessed that by that idiotic description of "autism"

>>723641565 (OP)
>left
>me playing CRPGs
>right
>me trying to read umineko

>>723643776
pro-tip: umineko is just dogshit, don't even bother

If I happen upon a good book, I could read the entire day straight. One time, I found a very enjoyable book and I ended up reading the entire series without pause. It was only when I reached the end of the series that my mind returned and I became aware of my surroundings. In the blink of an eye, a fortnight had passed. My pantry had been emptied during the first few days and I had unwittingly starved myself. It had enfeebled me to such a degree I could hardly stand. Chat, never read books. They can kill you.

I greatly prefer audiobooks to written text. I don't think i have adhd but it definitely takes me longer to read something if text is small or the lighting isn't right.

>>723643976
Chat, is this real?

>"I'll do some reading before bed"
>bite two hours out of my sleep schedule

>>723641683
This hits much too close to home.

>>723644073
As real as can be. It was like my brain was in an infinite loop and the only exit condition was reaching the end of the book.

Do you visualize shit happening in a book or just absorb the information? I do both but when something cool is happening I try to direct a scene in my head

>>723641565 (OP)
>me doing anki reps

>>723644263
Chat, is she cooked?

>>723641852
i have adhd and i've read entire books while zoning out and i'll occasionally dip back in like "what the fuck is happening?" "who is this character?"

>>723644303
>be me
>read "timmy rode his bike"
>imagine timmy riding his bike
>chat do u do dis or am i a unique little snowflake?

I have ADHD but don't want to fall for the medicated Jew, so I go through most of my life in a depressive malaise. Recently one of my other friends got diagnosed. He started medicating and now he keeps bragging about how productive he is "on drugs."

>>723643374
>Normalfags don't do that, ever.
What do you think of normalfags that puts so many hours into games like 2k or COD?

Why the fuck does everyone and their mom claim to have adhd now? I swear every new hire at my work in the last couple years claims it or that their kids have it. And all they do is whine non stop, completely unprompted, about how hard it is to get diagnosed or get support, meaning most don't actually have a confirmed diagnosis of it. But whether you have it or not, why the fuck would anyone go around telling everyone at their job that they're mentally impaired? If I had shit like that, I'd hide it.

>>723641565 (OP)
Me on the right.

>>723644584
Because we fried our dopamine receptors via the internet and we live in an unnatural Jewish society that demands we put our full attention on things the human mind was never meant to bother with.

>>723641852
Yeah ADHD is more "wow I this book is great I have to continue reading it tomorrow" and then you never open it again and your place is a fucking warzone even though you cleaned up two days ago.

>>723644570
>he thinks depression is real
i diagnose you with being a retarded leftoid faggot

>>723644503
What color do you assign the bike if it isn't mentioned? What do you imagine the background to look like? What angle is the camera at? When does it cut? How is Timmy posed?

>>723644573
you never heard of gambling addiction?

>>723644503
Apparently there are people who can't visualize apples in color.

>>723644584
>now
It was the same 20 years ago.

>>723644584
this
when I was a kid adhd meant the kid acts like a retard and can't sit on one place and throws pencils and shit but now it somehow means that you can't read a book?

>>723641565 (OP)
Yeah. I forget most details about games and get to experience them as if it's my first time playing.

>>723644684
>anon says he is depressed
>DEPRESSION ISN'T REAL BTW
...what?

>>723644684
he didn't actually say he had depression, good job reacting to the word as you're supposed to however

My head hurts from reading. I'm too low IQ for it. Even audiobooks are too hard for me. It's over...

>>723644760
I was all of these things and never got diagnosed. I wonder how many undiagnosed ADHD spergs like me are out there.

>>723644768
literally me, it's led to me re-consuming shit more than trying new things however

>>723644584
Tiktok generation

>>723644809
because it isnt real nigger. tis made up term for new age lazy niggers

>>723644813
>I go through most of my life in a depressive malaise
read it again like in OP's picture, and then read it again and again like the retard you are ingger

>>723644584
You whine all day about how bad smartphones and tiktok and social media is and how it's destroying the brains of the youth now the youth comes and claims they have destroyed brians and you think they're lying/crazy make up you're fuckin minds

>>723644760
Just like with autism, the requirements of diagnosis have been lowered. Autism used to mean those people who pretty much struggled to form complete sentences as adults, now that has different designation and pretty much anyone who exhibits any traits of the spectrum is autistic. Similarly ADHD used to mean those with ridiculous hypermotoric tendencies and ADD was the mild case. Now ADD doesnt exist and they are all ADHD even if its just a minor issue.

>>723643498
You're right and wrong. Yes, hyperfocus is a huge part of it but you cant control it. It comes and goes like the weather.
Imagine picking up a book, reading half of it in a single sitting, getting to a part that's a bit droll or just drags on too long, setting it down, not touching it for 2 weeks, picking it back up, setting it down again after 2 pages, then finally powering through a week later and finishing the book.
You're fighting against yourself to finish what you started but if the brain chemicals don't come then doing so feels like a Herculean task

>>723641565 (OP)
I suspect I have at least a bit of both, but in this particular post, adhd is all me

>>723644716
Your criteria is playtime. I was curious on what you think of normalfags that play mainly the same games.

>>723644964
now point out where he says he has depression, as in a medical diagnosis, believes it to be real, and is not just feeling bad

>>723644964
>anon says he is depressed
>IT'S NOT REAL
are you retarded by any chance?

>>723644964
>ha ha if I act like a contrarian and say slurs I'll be one of the cool 4chinz!!!!
Go back to school, kid.

>>723644503
Hello, sir brown

>>723644684
>>723644964
>Depression totes ain't real brah, just stop being sad lol

The only retarded nigger is you. We can induce depression in fucking animals if we want because it is essentially a state of chronic hopelessness that in the long term actually leads to fucking brain damage and it sure as shit can occur to humans as well.

>>723641565 (OP)
Having both of these sucks.

>>723645241
you are trans
and brown

>>723645175
>>723645198
>>723645241
oops looks like i pissed off all the blue haired SJWs in this thread. please spare my reddit karma! i cant afford to lose it!

>>723644303
I do but I just let my imagination do most of it. I’m reading REH’s Steve Costigan stories and even though he’s from Texas I immediately imagined him with a new jersey accent. I can’t help it. Just like when I read the James Bond novels I just picture him as Archer.

>>723641683
And you try to tell someone about your despair, but it just comes out as a quiet, polite vague comment and no one knows how you actually feel.

>>723645046
This is me except years instead of weeks
There's so much shit that I just stopped reading/watching/playing that I even liked for no reason

>>723645012
Normalfags aren't good at being logically consistent
They literally do not think about things. The concept of cause and effect is a suggestion to them. They live their lives relying on the social consensus to tell them what to think

>>723641565 (OP)
>re-reading and forgetting the same sentence
I do this, but I'm just a bit slow. Slow reader, slow to complete tasks. I spend 5 minutes rewriting my posts before hitting submit.
The world has been outpacing me since I was a child.

>>723645146
My criteria isn't play time, it's average play time for single player games to judge whether someone was truly immersed or just finished the game like a task/job. The latter is the typical normalfag wageslave mindset.
>I need to finish this task (video game) ASAP so I can start with finishing the next task (video game)

>>723645356
you couldn't make yourself look any lamer than with this post

>>723645356
>anon says he is depressed
>NO YOU CANNOT BE DEPRESSED HOLY SHIT YOU ARE AN SJW
...what?

>>723642750
True, autism is only really an illness in the neurotically view, but in the end for better or worse the world is also built by them and there are a lot more of them. Our inability to fully integrate makes it an illness.

>>723645365
yeah it sucks assigning a character an appearance and then later on it's mentioned their hair is X and not Y

>>723641565 (OP)
Yes if only i could over came my porn addiction i would be unstopable

>>723645543
>>723645620
erm ackhtually you are le lame! why are lefties so obsessed with optics and not the argument at hand? like all your replies have been seething over me stating the simple fact that depression is a made up concept which is an undeniable fact btw

>>723644724
I remember there being the issue of parents of bad kids labelling them adhd, like it was an excuse for them being shitty parents and their kids behavior. And there being the argument that it was getting over diagnosed. But it was never the scale it is now. And those adhd kids back then were seriously disruptive and nuts in class. In my school they got put on the "special table" with teachers helpers and were socially ostracised. Now normal adults happily diagnose themselves that and make it their mission to tell everyone they meet. And all the parents are trying to slap that label on their decently behaved kids and get them meds

>>723645529
>it's average play time for single player games to judge whether someone was truly immersed or just finished the game like a task/job.
I suggest you look at achievements too, not just playtime. You'd be surprised at the amount of people that don't know basic shit yet they have all the achievements.

>>723644584
Most likely it's an easily masked, but more common than thought condition.

The age of the Internet just brought it out in more people, and it's only getting worse with the current generation brain-rot.

>>723645835
you're not making an argument, you're making an assertion

>>723641565 (OP)
why is this relevant to me

>>723644570
M.D here, people have been taking drugs since we weren't even humans yet. Alcohol has always been digested by everyone except dumb arabs. Speed (used in ADHD medicine), when taken in moderate doses, isn't worse than alcohol. There isn't any proof, any studies of amphetamine damaging your brain when taken in medical doses even in longer periods.. But indeed it makes your life more enjoyable and therefore you do stuff, which makes your brain grow bigger because you use it instead of just sitting depressed. As it has always been, moderation is the key.

>>723641683
>>Autism + ADHD
If curses were real, this would probably be it

>>723641565 (OP)
>have certain rituals and habits
>hope that I never be considered as having a mental illness
>the more I read online about them, the more I tick their boxes
>OCD and ADHD
FUCK

>>723646384
>M.D here
lmao enjoy prison

>>723646384
>House, M.D here
>the brain is just like a muscle bro! just use it more and it will get bigger le bigger bro!
pick one

>ADHtism
>get huge burst of motivation to do something very specific in certain games
>factorio train system, isaac build, from dust waterslide mountain
>load up the game and realise imagining the plan was more fun than actually doing it
>close the game

getting new games where I need to learn/discover new rules usually keeps me motivated, but sometimes I'll just ditch something if it's too similar to a game I've already played.


>>723646384
microdosing meth changed my life for the better, but I often worry how/if it fucks up my brain long-term

>>723643590
>what impacts me the most is paranoia inside and outside of the game
oh, don't worry. nobody is out to get you if you don't finish to 100% silksong in the next 3 days, haha

>>723641565 (OP)
Me on the right when reading college assigned reading

>>723641565 (OP)
neither autism not ADHD are real. They are symptoms of living under capitalism that psychiatrists and the pharma industry have pathologized so they can legally lobotomize you while making bank and obfuscating the real societal issues.

>autism
>be smart but socially inept
>ADHD
>cancels out the smart, but also still socially inept

WHAT IF WE COMBINED THEM??? SO COOL.

why did God do this to me bros?

>>723646597
What? I've been on 4chan since 2008, way before i got my degree.

>>723646620
That's pretty much how the entire human body works bro. Also why NEETing makes you demented.

>>723646663
OKAY there are some drugs that are just fucking hardcore, mainly Crack, Meth and Heroine. For those i don't know if there will be braindamage even in "medical" doses. But regular amphetamine has been found to be safe.

>>723641565 (OP)
Having to work affects my enjoyment.

>>723645352
Not argument, retard.

>723646887
You're a frogposter, god hates you.

>>723645352
Obsessing much?

>>723646952
I still went to parties and had fun, chud
I did it DESPITE god's curse upon me.

>>723646887
I'm L1 Autistic, but I wouldn't say I'm smart. No more than anyone else anyway.
I overthink shit all the time, mostly to the point on mental exhaustion and see most of the social norms neurotypical people hold as important to be trivial fluff, and while I can mask to fit into it somewhat, I can't do it very well and these days don't even want to honestly.
I do get worrying memory issues when under pressure too which I would guess is diagnosed ADHD. Hooray for me and my mostly isolated life I guess.

>>723641683
literally me

>>723647191
only you can erase your gay memes, everyone can smell them on you.

>>723641601
fpbp

>>723641852
>>723641896
Autism is also not being able to understand that other people's experiences are different from your own

>>723641852
Anon, everyone reads at least 20 books in school. I've read more books than I can count and I still have to reread every sentence multiple times.

>>723641896
That happens to me when I try to read even stuff I enjoy. It doesn't even have to be prose, I have to reread everything five times to get it in comic books too. Hell, I even have to reread people's posts multiple times.

>>723647191
Did you feel exhausted after? That's the one thing that gets to me. I can, want to and try to socialize with neurotypical people but I feel so drained after it all when the party hasn't even started for most people I can't carry it on and have no choice but to leave early. Naturally this leaves a bad impression.

I'm getting older now and care less, but it's always something that got to me, and has cost a lot of potential happiness through life.

>>723647191
>that a curse
Oh what a terrible curse,poor poor soul
An actual curse like leads to an early death via the curse itself or world breaking discoveries that could get you killed.

>>723642225
>anon discovers mental illness

>>723644584
my brain is fucked with ocd and adhd properly diagnosed (no medication) and i don't tell anybody but my wife
why would anyone willingly tell everyone how fucked up your brain is unless they just want pity and excuses for why they're shit? when i succeed or fail it's on the merit of my work

>>723642750
You know people die of Tylenol overdose, right?

>>723641683
>>723641565 (OP)
I have text to speech
Chara reads stories to me.

>>723647652
"reading" in school is different from reading for fun completely out of your own free will at home.

>>723643040
It would be very helpful in a hunter gatherer society where people are expected to go around searching for food all day. Its just a horrible albatross around the neck in any kind of society where specialization and division of labor exist.

>>723647781
Nah it's
>Autism but you can't understand there is something wrong with you

The main symptom of schizophrenia is that the person doesn't feel it himself. They believe their delusions and somehow just bypass contradictin evidence. Same with schizoid personality. So they turn "i can't understand other people" to "other people are stupid and i don't even need to understand them". That's what makes arguing with schizos on internet so useless. They simply can't understand how simple and stupid their ideas are. This is what i believe that most unironic internet chuds are.

why does ken have long hair

>>723641565 (OP)
>have an attention span that lets you enjoy a hobby
>all the sudden you're autistic
Why are normalfags like this? They don't say the same thing about cooking, or wage slaving at a job during 8 hour shifts, or spending half a day making something or editing a video. So why is it bad?
You don't see people saying the same thing when bitches spend 4 hours taking photos for inst*gram on vacation. Or those faggots that spend 20 minutes taking pictures of food or drinks before enjoying it.

>>723647872
I like the performance. That's the thing. It doesn't exhaust me as easily, unless I push myself TOO far. It's also just fun and I'm capable of making friends too. I'm amazing at masking my retardation.

>>723648197
schizoid/schizotypal isn't schizophrenia tho

>>723648043
>Tylenol overdose
Its regular-strength Tylenol! Here's what you do: Open her mouth, take a handful and throw it at her. Whatever sticks is the correct dosage!

>>723643498
I can focus on reading a book, but even on stuff I'm really enjoying, I'll have to reread lines five or so times. Especially during more busy segments.

>>723648335
Of course not but they are named similiar because they seem to have the same things wrong in the brain.

>>723641852
nigga they don't have the attention span or patience to "get better" in the first place

>>723647781
>"You have autism"

"I don't think so."

>"We think so."

"I don't want it."

>"You're Autism, you have Chris Chan disorder"

"...."

>"UNLESS... you also have pyschosis. Then all of a sudden, it's not autism anymore. It'd be the much cooler sounding Schizotypal Disorder."

"G-GAAAAAH WHAT WAS THAT OVER THERE???"

>>723644584
>If I had shit like that, I'd hide it
The smart ones do. The attention seeking faggots just want you to feel bad for them so they can manipulate you into doing stuff that makes their job easier.
Happens all the fucking time. Lots of human resource cunts, project managers, executives and even professionals do it to get any advantage they can. It's just sociopath behavior.
Treat them like a retard and watch them get mad as fuck.

>>723648426
Schizo means split/set apart. So it's used to mean "alternate" in terms of mental disorders.

>>723646865
Nigger it's real, normal people don't stim for no fucking reason

>>723642225
They're not, but they live in a constant veil of buzzing distraction that they're always doing retarded impulsive things.

>cursed to be an autistic retard
>cursed to also have my one dream being having a happy family
>even if I win the lottery I could still never fulfill that dream
Hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>723646865
True. Look at how many people got addicted to adderall because they were convinced they needed it to get ahead. "Bro adderall got me through college just ignore the decade of crippling side effects and withdrawal"

>>723646384
It does mess up your heart though. I'm pretty sure being on adderall for ten years gave me a heart condition.

>>723648262
I know this sounds weird, but all therapy gives is the useless "dont mask at all and find other autistics that never leave the house and you don't like you like sonic right join the fanclub lol" advice. Is there anywhere I can actively train myself how to mask better?

I'm ok at it, but I really can't do it for long.

Do you ever just catch yourself unmasking at home and you realize... I'm literally not human and i need to be culled

Yeah, why wouldn't it? It affects pretty much every aspect of your life.

>>723641852
woosh

>>723646605
Literally me

>tfw mildly autistic
>also have a huge dick
Feels fucking good mang

>>723648721
People get addicted to cheese burgers. There is no physical addiction when taken in medical doses.

>just ignore the decade of crippling side effects and withdrawal

Stop talking out of your ass. The withdrawal takes a week max.

>>723648576
I'm pretty sure it's used here because schizoid personality disorder has many of the "negative" symptoms of schizophrenia.

>>723648850
I used to but then I realized there's countless dogshit people out there who deserve to be put down far more than me.

Don't think I can call it mental illness but brain fog is fucking awful. Affects my eyes too, the resolution is fine but its like they're slow and can't see right.

>>723646384
Doctors are retarded,all of them.
And lots of psychopaths amongst your kind,low iq appeal to authority idiots.
Peak of NPC cattle, the proudest ultra NPCS.

>>723648259
Because those are jobs and chores. They're being forced to do that. Seems consistent to me. A security guard standing hypervigilant for 8 hours is a guy with a strong work ethic. But if you showed me a guy that just stands hypervigilant for 8 hours for fun yeah I'd think he was autistic.

>>723648797
Yeah that is one interesting subject, still there isn't enough proof for it show up clearly in studies. What kind of symptoms did you get?

>>723646384
>Just take the opioids, goy!
Hmm... don't think I will.

>>723646663
Damn literally me regarding Isaac and factorio trains
When I played factorio the first time I got addicted and played it for like 2 weeks day and night especially regarding trains (I didn't like the idea of making parallel tracks instead of just using one bidirectional track like everyone says) so I spent a lot of that time figuring it out and pushing train automation to the limit, it was a lot of fun
But as soon as I launched the rocket and finished the game that was it, it was over

Same for isaac rebirth when it came out, got into it hard but when I got 100% of achievements I was done
Then again this might be normal behavior, I dont know
for every game that hooks me like this theres 4 dozen more games that I have started and didn't finish for no reason at all

>>723647781
>autism
autism
>schizo
literally just autism + psychosis

yeah, I'll take schizo then. One makes you cool and the other makes you a pariah

>>723649004
Adderall is slightly modified meth. Are you telling me there aren't crippling side effects that affect people differently? Are you fucking retarded?

>>723648938
>never get to use it
yup, still cursed

>>723641852
>The "has to read the same sentence 40 times" isn't ADHD. It's just how every starter reader reads books. It goes away after having read 20 books or so.
I've read dozens upon dozens of books across school and after the fact, and the equivalent of hundreds of books in media subtitles across movies and games because I can't understand what people are saying, and I still have to re-read what I'm reading multiple times over by rewinding or pausing. This includes my own posts, this one as well, where I randomly forget words and sometimes even entire segments of sentences, and always have to edit after the fact.

>>723648721
They really probably wouldn't have gotten through college without it though.

>>723644584
People are diagnosed with it a lot more than they used to be. Maybe it was always there and we just didn't have name for it, or maybe its like autism and there's something causing it to develop in children. Either way, lots of people have it. And then because its common lots of other people will mistakenly believe they have it when they've really just developed a similar condition through bad habits like doom scrolling (I liken it to the difference between type 1 and type 2 diabetes)

As to why so many people admit to it. The shame around mental illness and personal weaknesses has been almost entirely eliminated from moden society. If there's something wrong with you, there's no practical reason to hide it, and complaining about it makes you feel better, and might earn you some excuse from the failures it will cause you to have.

>>723647636
Depends on the severity
Those who are autists to the point where they need a full time tard wrangler and basically can't function alone, yeah
But the ones that are lucid enough to get by, the ones who learned to hide their power level since they were kids are actually the exact opposite. They can understand how normalfags think pretty well, probably better than they do, but they're still autists and they still think it's gay and retarded.

>>723648832
lmao if I didn't/couldn't mask my adhd/autistic traits, I'd kill myself. I LIKE masking.

I'm neither of these things, and I probably have both.

>>723644584
>about how hard it is to get diagnosed or get support, meaning most don't actually have a confirmed diagnosis of it
I mean here in Europe the waiting time through standard care is 8 years. If you want an actual diagnosis, you have to pay thousands of dollars.

>>723649228
>is someone using the word chud retarded
what a silly (rhetorical)question

>>723641565 (OP)
I hate having ADHD

>>723649365
There's nothing causing autism except your own genes. There have always been autistic people everywhere, this is just the first time in history where we do extensive testing for it. Our understanding of the problem got better, which broadened the definition several times and that always results in more people being diagnosed. That's literally it.

Even if you have ADHD you can learn how to force yourself to read and understand books. It's just miserable, so I only do it for school. I despise books.

>>723644570
This is the worst part of ADHD. Sometimes literally everything I do feels worthless and like I shouldn't be doing it. I could be watching the greatest movie ever made and think "I should be doing something else", then switch to doing something productive that I previously enjoyed and think "I should be doing something else". So then I just spend all day in bed, staring at the ceiling, thinking about what I could be doing.

>>723648832
>Is there anywhere I can actively train myself how to mask better
Unironically watch older tv shows and read books. It teaches you how to address situations and react appropriately because dialogue and situations are everywhere.
>can't do it for long
Just practice. Caffeine can also help your body catch up with your brain and organize your thoughts better.

>>723646952
>create a frogposter
>"wtf why is he frogposting?"
so god also has ADHD

>>723649146
Didn't say anything about opiods retard. Btw when given in short term prescriptions multiple times, they do help some people with deep rooted anxiety related problems. Just an interesting thing i found out in my clinical work. You need to take them in big doses for a long time for an actual physical addiction to occur.

>>723649059
Don't even know what's wrong with you.

>>723649228
Adderal is two different enantiomers of amphetamine. It isn't methamphetamine.

>OMG I HATE HAVING ADHD

I bet you all have the fake one. kill yourselves.

how's the adderall addiction btw?

>>723648606
If someone constantly finds themselves doing impulsive retarded things, I think it's safe to describe them as impulsive and retarded

>>723641565 (OP)
>enjoyment
no
>quality
yes

>>723641565 (OP)
This image really says a lot. Rereading a sentence over and over again is not a mental issue in most cases. It is just incompetence at reading. This happens to some degree to many people and is one of the main things that slows down their reading speed. It can easily be gotten over by just trying to improve, have confidence to read on after reading once. Eventually your mind will calm down and not stress it as much. The closest you'd get to a mental illness causing this issue is an obsession. But, obsessions can also be gotten over by labeling them as such and ignoring them (this actually works surprisingly quickly and efficiently). This gets to the main point of ADHD though, it isn't real, or at least not in the way many believe. Most of its issues are caused by dietary issues, a weak will, stress, and other conditions that should be improved. But many are convinced they have some permanent issue and take mind destroying drugs. They get caught in a trap forever that makes them super unproductive.
t. I've had these issues but have gradually overcome many of them by being mindful about it.

>>723644570
It sounds like that bothers you.

>>723645843
Its possible to suffer from ADHD without being a little shit. You don't have to be screaming in class and throwing pencils at people to be incapable of understanding the teacher or books without rereading or asking them to repeat themselves five times, despite being able to hear/read them perfectly clearly.

>>723649228
Not that anon, but:
Sure, people have varying tolerances, but first of all its modified amphetamine, not methamphetamine. In other words, less potent and shorter-acting. Secondly, the daily doses are 10-50 times smaller than what drug users use per hit. This limits the damage considerably: imagine the difference between consuming 3 beers five times a night daily versus fifth of a shot glass once a day. There might be some extremely slight harmful effects but even on large-scale studies they are indistinguishable from random variation, so the benefits outweigh the harms significantly.
I wouldnt give it to developing child though

>>723641565 (OP)
I like to picture a movie when I read so I'll often reread sentences to emphasize certain parts of the scene in my mind.

To talk without thinking is to aim without shooting

>>723650140
>This image really says a lot. Rereading a sentence over and over again is not a mental issue in most cases. It is just incompetence at reading. This happens to some degree to many people and is one of the main things that slows down their reading speed. It can easily be gotten over by just trying to improve, have confidence to read on after reading once. Eventually your mind will calm down and not stress it as much.
What are you talking about? What is your human experience that you equate reading to a stressful activity and this somehow clouds the mind? I feel nothing reading, I still need to re-read everything in front of me because I often blank entire chunks and words.

>>723649608
Hyperfixation is nice at least. You haven't lived your life in full until you've played dwarf fortress for 12 hours straight without turning your eyes away from the screen.
I just wish I could transfer this to work somehow. I feel like I could be amazing at doing something, but I never found anything that interesting irl that could also earn me money.

>>723649831
why do you people forget the whole free will thing whenever it becomes convenient to avoid consequence?

>>723650468
To fart without shitting is like singing without music.

>>723650501
>I just wish I could transfer this to work somehow
Outline your day. Give yourself breaks so you don't get fatigue. Unironically put on some music or a podcast or something. Background noise helps a lot.

>>723645046
this is me except I don't have ADHD. just a typical non-committal fag.

>>723645529
I grew up with rentals. Playing through games quickly before the rental time is up was standard. That behavioral persists even when I buy or pirate games. I do think there is some nature vs nurture involved.

>>723649904
did some alt chick on adderall reject you or somethin', what's with the fixation

>>723649097
My heart with start pounding randomly, and I'll get chest pains. If I sit still for long enough my hand starts going numb. Those things will keep escalating as long as I'm sitting still. Basically the only solution is do a bunch of really strenuous exercises, the kind that leave me gasping for breathe, for a an hour or two. Other times, after I eat it will do that anyways and exercise won't help. And any time I take any kind of stimulant in any dosage at all, it will induce that. That includes something as simple as drinking half a can of coke, or taking 1/8th of a genseng pill. And I can't even consider taking something like adderall anymore.

Its not like I'm particularly overweight either. This just happens.

I can't get any proper tests done to diagnose what exactly this is since my insurance won't cover it.

People never talk about how 'hallucinations' differ between different mental illnesses. most mental illnesses cause hallucinations due to a disruption of the imaginative center, but in schizophrenia, these 'hallucinations' are more linked to those caused DMT trips and mushroom use, which makes you ponder if there's a side to our brain that is made to interface with the divine

>>723650329
>the daily doses are 10-50 times smaller than what drug users use per hit.
Are they? I understood that in bigger medical doses they are similiar to have much one line of speed would have.

>>723648832
Analyze peoples' behavior mechanically instead of intuitively. Normal people use "be yourself" when interacting socially, but you have to purposely think about which actions to take in each situation. For example, for eye contact I look in the general direction of a person instead of away or straight into their eyes. I found that works the best.

>>723645046
sounds just like the middle part of Wheel of Time desu

>>723644584
when i was 8 i was quiet and not impulsive or anything, i simply didnt pay attention to the math part in 3rd grade because it was so beneath me it felt retarded to care, and the teacher suggested to my parents i see a doctor for "ADHD" and my parents took me to a doctor and he said he would put me on the amphetamines and if they "worked" that meant i was formally diagnosed and id have to keep taking them indefinitely so i ended up having to keep taking them, grades dropped, they increased the dose, grades dropped more, increased the dose, long story short i spent 5 years in borderline amphetamine psychosis for no reason and it ruined my entire life by conditioning me to associate being among peers with being strung out like a crackhead with intense paranoid delusions and frozen in fear like a catatonic schizo

>>723650796
Schizophrenia and the hallucinations that come with it are quite literally demons able to more easily take a hold of you and cause you all forms of nightmares and other issues due to how you're built than with other people. You NEED to ask Christ to help you get better and combat them properly because taking meds for that shit won't actually do you much good at all.
It's God alone who can cure you from that massive demonic oppression.

>>723641683
Delete this

>>723650505
>creates free will
>"wtf they're being too free"

>>723646865
I think its over diagnosed, and a lot of the more mild cases of ADHD would do just fine in a different age, but both conditions are absolutely real. In ancient societies, autistic people either got shunned because they were weird, or managed to convince everyone they were eccentric visionaries. And ADHD would be branded as lazy, when they really just can't find motivation to do anything due to their brain refusing to release dopamine for any stimulation.

>>723650683
>The "was put on SSRIs at a very young age" gf

>>723644760
they also had "ADD" to justify putting kids like me >>723650958
on it. i guess i should have clarified thats what the doctor said i had, not adhd. because i wasnt just some spastic kid whose parents wanted to drug me into shutting the fuck up like most cases apparently are

>>723650796
My most common hallucinations are

>Someone calling my name, almost like a muffled shout
>Shifting "shadows" in the corners of my eyes, like something is looming there and runs away when I look
>Text and writing "moving" as if you're looking into a heatwave, shifting like slow waves

When I have bad nightmares, they're bad. The most benign wake up I've ever had during a bad spell was vivid squares, triangles and circles in vibrant reds, blues and greens floating across my vision. Changing and shifting into each other.

>>723646887
The worst thing is being smart, but being unable to do anything with those smarts due to an inability to apply myself.

>>723650990
yeah man, and any community with laws that say don't rape and kill are actually in the wrong for having consequences for that even though you technically have the freedom to rape and kill.
You're not sentient. You're not self-aware. You're not even human, you're an actual creature.

>>723650140
I agree for many parts. My relatives are of the monkeying around type of ADHD and I was too as a kid. When I got diagnosed a lot changed. I realized I HAVE TO spend 500% more effort than a normie to hold things together. Clean my apartment every day (because I cant avoid being messy at the spur of the moment and if things arent clean it just gets worse), always put things into certain place instead of just dropping them down because otherwise I misplace them, work in gruelling silence and tolerate extreme boredom to minimize distractions and so on. I am sick after all: if my leg was broken, of course I would have to spend extra effort to keep up with normies. As such, I am doing pretty well. I have a job, mortgage and whatnot. It gets easier with time, but it takes years and you WILL suck at it at first.

However most people with ADHD seem to think it as some sort of shield that means they shouldnt even try. "No I cant do this I have ADHD". Fuck you, that means its just a lot more difficult and you have to spend extra time and effort both in home and in work to get things done. It isnt supposed to be easy, you have a fucking disability. I have multiple friends I struggle to tolerate nowadays because they are like this.

I have adhd and read books a lot

I just zone out while reading and flip back a page or two every now and then. I'll still finish the entire book in one sitting.

>>723643374
I think my playtimes are just long because I forgot to close the game, bro.

>>723651179
>freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences chud
that's not what freedom means

>>723649904
The real ADHD is like having crippling depression BUT you also can't sit still. The le quirky hyperactive part isn't even top 10 symptoms.

>>723651318
>people call me citizen instead of slave so i'm free

>>723650970
schizophrenics are the shamans of our time. being able to see beyond the veil of reality, but often being pranked and tormented by demons for their own enjoyment because they're the only ones who can see them. it's quite the predicament. you can also self-induce schizophrenia through regular DMT abuse and certain practices

>>723651156
those experiences you've described at the end are markingly similar to those found in DMT trips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCBvaj4eSg
you are divine, special, gifted and beautiful. never forget this, anon

>>723649767
the "problem" with autism is really more a problem with the way the world has changed to shut out autistic people.
There is nothing innately wrong with being comfortable with routine and very specific about details. Those were probably behaviours that were selected for by farming or industrial cultures. Someone who would have been an amazing blacksmith 500 years ago, or an amazing subsistence farmer 5000 years ago, is now kind of fucked in many regards.
Their opportunities for jobs have shrunk, their communities have shrunk, their opportunities to find wives have shrunk.
Literally none of this points to them being innately broken. It points to the world being intolerable to live in.

>>723650694
Huh okay, sounds like some sort of heart rythm problem. We can't say for sure if it was the medical speed that gave it to you. But it sounds like it heart rate stimulants induce it indeed.

>>723650472
Someone who rereads a sentence does it because their mind gets distracted and then needs to reassure itself. The distraction can often come from a fear of blanking itself. This is the case with most ADHD type issues. An inability to focus that comes from hyperactivity mentally. The brain is almost trying too hard to read, typically because it has become annoyed by feeling forced into the act. This causes it to trip over itself multiple times. I was referring to the brain "stressing it" as if it was a person who was worrying about a task. It was just personification, the situation doesn't necessarily have to involve stress or really any conscious feeling. I actually had trouble writing this post because my mind is starting to twist on itself and blank. I've fixed a lot of problems, but still have some way to go too. I should probably drink more water, as I've found it fixes it a lot of the time.

>>723651393
I am not free but no one lied to me about that except god

>>723650140
ADHD is absolutely real. You can force yourself to be productive at work by triggering your flight or flight response, but it made me absolutely miserable and was not sustainable in the long-term. I thought that was normal (since normalfags always complain about hating work/school) but that's not the case. Turns out normalfags are just pussies who treat minor inconvenience like the worst thing ever.

>>723650838
It may vary per country, but here absolute maximum dose you can get after years of being on adderall is 50mg but thats extreme exception. Normal dose is 10, up to 25 with two visits to separate doctors who both agree medication is working but not well enough. That's 25mg normal upper bound, or 0,025grams. Tenfold dose would be 0,25g which is similar to what I've understood to be near "normal" amphetamine user amounts, with heavier users consuming up to 0,5g per use. However the drug users typically take multiple hits during a night out instead of just one, and it is consumed at once instead of slowly being released and metabolized over ~12 hours.

>>723648259
Autism is when you willingly pay hours and hours of attention to something for fun that normies dread being paid to spend half that time paying attention to. And also being completely socially inept.

>>723641683
This and also with lore heavy videogames.

I'm getting tired of hearing people say autism isn't a disorder or it's the next step in evolution and other retarded shit. They must forget that low functioning autistic people exist and it isn't just a bunch of socially awkward savants.

>>723651318
There are consequences to everything. Your inability to accept that and the constant falling back on shitty memes and joking your way to serotonin and other "feel good" chemicals for comfort isn't healthy.

>>723651383
there is no "real ADHD" , there is no "real depression", all these things are just attempts by the medical industry to convince retards that they have a "chemical imbalance" disease and that the only fix is to take drugs

>>723650683
You have to lock a girl like this home and never let her see another man for any extended period of time or she'll realize that she can obsess like that over any guy and not just you
>t. knew a girl like this in high school who would "unawarely" cheat on her boyfriend

I can and will read voraciously but the problem is getting the momentum going to start in the first place. Same for games.

>>723651519
God didn't lie to you. God might not even exist.
Humans are more complex than animals but we're given the same opportunities. Take responsibility or die.

>>723650229
What I took away from school was a persistent sense of despair, and a reliance on escaping into imaginary fantasies, while I was really trying to focus on what teachers were saying but just couldn't do it.
Wouldn't surprise me if I have undiagnosed ADHD. I just didn't have the being a little asshole in class kind, so people thought I was dumb instead.

>>723651602
>creates a world of consequence
>people judge god for the consequence of lying
>"wtf actions have consequences?"
what is god's problem

>>723641565 (OP)
>tfw no autistic gf

>>723648850
I realize I'm an absolute weirdo, but I don't feel shame about it anymore. Its just how it is, no reason to be upset about it.

>>723651016
My father is textbook example of mild ADHD. He is doing great, he is in top 1,5% earners in our country with payroll income alone. When he was young the demands were simply so much easier than nowadays that he could excel. He frequently comments how my job as a teacher is ridiculously fast-paced. No wonder the ADHD kids cant handle it.

>>723649004
>There is no physical addiction when taken in medical doses.
you are a retarded nigger who lives to serve jews
next you'll tell me the sackler family arent criminals and their opiates arent addictive too

>>723651585
When you have con artists (therapists) telling you that ackshully autism is good and should be proud of having it, that it isn't a problem, I don't get surprised of hearing shit like that. Must be easy to claim that garbage from the poulint of view of someone who doesn't have the problem. Fucking pieces of shit, not even pajeets are this big of a scammer group.

>>723651585
I often question whether or not i am high functioning
I definitely feel less intelligent as the years go on, like I was clever when I was a kid but never really improved beyond that

>>723651543
Due to lack of regulation, street speed is usually watered down, 0,5 g line isn't actually 0,5 g of speed. The biggest allowed medical dose of amphetamine is pretty close in effect to one line of street amphetamine, but i know this only because my friend who did in minecraft told me.

Yes, I am much more attached to video games most of the time than real life and people since many video games are idealized worlds or worlds with hope while real life is traumatic and terrible. The portrayal of horrible things in video games don’t compare at all to how bad real life is. This is even bigger when you have autism or BPD and everyone hates you for something you couldn’t control. A video game NPC will never call you a retarded faggot loser like a real person would.

>>723651675
god gave me the free will to not take responsibility for my actions and he will punish me for it

>>723644698
Blue, orange sunset with leaves in the wind t posing as he comes over the ridge.

>>723651585
When we say "autism" we me Aspergers, which got lumped in with autism for stupid political reasons.
Non verbal retards are just non verbal retards.

>>723651732
>autistic men
treated like incel freaks that women won't even make eye contact with
>autistic women
OMG SO CUTE AND QUIRKY

women have it so easy

>>723651629
Right, just like there isn't real schizophrenia. Just ignore the illusions, bro.

>>723651767
Aren't you one retarded idiot. Opiods actually are physically addictive when taken in big doses for long periods of time.

all these labels only exist to shut down people with personalities more prone to express dissent to the status quo, the dsm-5 is a tool of the establishment.

>>723651721
>God is the reason why I'm punished for being retarded and harming people.
>>723651925
>It's God's fault I can't hurt others and get away with it, it's not fair.

>>723649767
I don't know about that anon. Look at how many people today exhibit autistic traits compared to 40 years ago. I'm willing to accept that its genetic, but then that means that either something is causing the autism gene to randomly develop in children (potentially old parents, or environmental factors damaging the parents sperm and eggs) or autists are having more children than they used to.

>>723641565 (OP)
yes. I can't play vidya. it takes me forever to beat a single quest because I go around in circles for days getting distracted reading and re-reading shit

>>723651702
>What I took away from school was a persistent sense of despair
Same here. Except I'm gifted, so I easily got through high school by putting in minimum effort. Normalfag whining made me think school feeling like literal hell on earth was normal.

I have ADHD and I get to blame the Adderall shortage for all my problems in life.
Only issue is is that I can't fix these problems because no adderall.

>>723652106
Labels exist so we can communicate, or are you going to call male/female labels too?
Labels exist as descriptors. How do you talk about the color Blue without calling it Blue?
Think before you speak.

>>723651986
>little kids NEED amphetamine because mostly crack smoking niggers hallucinate and kill people

>>723649251
>This includes my own posts, this one as well, where I randomly forget words and sometimes even entire segments of sentences, and always have to edit after the fact.
holy shit that happens to all the time. I thought I had brain or something

>>723652106
This is a big part of it. You can look at the backstory of most autistics, and it is essentially an issue that compounded over time by people treating them weird because they decided that it was the person's "role". Mental illness only has as much power as you believe it does (because it only exists in the head). Most people labeled as mentally ill just said something that others didn't like once, and it all went downhill from there. It is fucking disgusting, and I can't wait until the future where this is openly talked about like lobotomy.

>>723652192
I "got through" it in the sense that I got through it. I don't think I emotionally recovered ever, really.
I still feel like someone is going to find me out for homework I didn't do, or something. I still get a rush of anxiety whenever I have to deal with paperwork.

>>723649904
I don't take adderall and I haven't for years. I hated taking it in school It made me irritable, jumpy, ruined my sleep schedule, and took away my ability to enjoy things. Made me feel like a soulless robot. Plus I think it gave me a heart condition.

Living without it sucks too, I genuinely can't function without it, but living with it is impossible.

You wouldn't say Terry was pretending for clout was he?

>>723652149
>something that didnt exist 150 years ago and is now an epidemic is genetic
so obesity is a genetic problem and totally has nothing to do with food. you see the problem is all the people who would have died of... starvation? now they live and just get really fat, or something

>>723652106
Can't speak for autism but i do agree that ADHD has it's "benefits" and sometimes when my ADHD patients described their symptoms to me, they just sounded like personality traits of more "wild" personalities. The argument is definitely legit that ADHD is just us saying that the personality traits that make us not be able to focus on things like robots means that there is something wrong with us. Because in today's world people want to be succesful so bad. But whatever the case, ADHD medicine does help with focusing with people with these personality traits/medical symptoms, and the world of today demands a lot of focus in many jobs/school.

>>723652149
Anon, autists were always around. They were just called eccentrics/weirdos. If you pick up a history book you'll see many famous historical figures were clearly mentally ill.

>>723641683
That's me

>All these people who should be in institutions able to shit freely into the internet
>Freely acting proud of it ITT
So this is why the world fell apart.

>>723652149
It's because the world has gotten so much more alienating for those kinds of people.
Only 50 years ago you could kind of just walk into a job, and make do, and then within five years you'd be that guy who was really good at his job and dependable, and some woman from the community would probably have married you.
You wouldn't even have cause to think anything was wrong.

>>723644584
Im 34, my mom got told i have adhd in grade 6, she didn't beleive in adhd so i never got medicated. Years later and after my life is pretty much fucked, I go to meet my new doctor, he runs some normal tests, asks me some questions, then gets a special test out. Turns out I DO have adhd with suspected Autism. Its not hard to get a diagnose if you REALLY have it. I hate these fake ass niggas who claim they have it when they don't. Fucking normies want to be different so bad. While I just want to remember what the fuck I was doing yesterday. I don't ever tell people at work I have a mental illness. I do however get 2k a month for free from my government becasue of it.

>>723652320
Brain what, anon?

>being diagnosed autist as a man
say it's over without saying its over

>>723652381
you'd probably have been fine if you didnt grow up taking the shit
ADHD and autism are obviously caused by brain inflammation mostly from our diets replacing heat stable saturated fat rich animal fats with seed oils where the fats are not only more prone to oxidation but are oxidized in the process of making them, which produces toxins like aldehydes that cross directly into the blood brain barrier

>>723652436
Nu-uh things don't exist until a scientist says so, and then I say it's some kind of malicious plan to hurt me specifically instead of giving me a better understanding of my condition!

>>723652149
There was no internet 40 years ago.

>>723641565 (OP)
>>723641683
holy shit do niggas really do this?

>>723652128
god's fault for engineering the two degenerate retards in this reply chain, just needs to fill up space in hell to look good on the books

>>723641565 (OP)
you can have both at the same time
just consume enough social media shit and short form content and you'll get there

>>723652473
Indeed, before all the schizos stayed in their own basements. At best they were Newton type secluded nerds. Now they poison the minds of normal people with their hysteria on internet. That's why modern political discourse is so fucked up and weird. We didn't hear these people screech before internet.

>>723652473
I'd rather the elite be honest and keep their cattle in pastures too. Better than letting them out into the fields to tell everyone that "actually, this electric collar is just something I have to live with, it can't be overcome".

>been trying to work on myself more over the past couple years
>took up martial arts, been cooking for myself more, stopped using apps on my phone
>short-term memory has been getting worse to the point where i can't remember anyone's names
help

>>723652542
Are you retarded Anon? ADHD is the hunter/gather gene. The fucking normie settlers took over society and now people with ADHD are cooked. We are made to hunt, fuck, and stay up as the night watchers. Instead the nomie settler took over and we are forced to fucking do their bullshit every fucking day. DEATH TO NORMIES

what mental illness is this?

>>723641565 (OP)
I feel personally attacked by the one on the right, both by OP and my parents

>>723652634
you don't want free will, you want to be controlled, that way you have no responsibility and a free conscience.
Too bad retard lol

I have ridiculous problems reading books where I retain 0 information of what happened in previous paragraph

I have to manually stop
try to vocalize each sentence in my mind, maybe translate the words into different language
then after a paragraph stop, and try to recall relevant information
then after a while rethink what happened in the plot

otherwise I retain jack

>have adhd
>take stimulants
>life fixed
it's that easy
everything else is cope

>>723652381
>I don't take adderall and I haven't for years. I hated taking it in school It made me irritable, jumpy, ruined my sleep schedule, and took away my ability to enjoy things. Made me feel like a soulless robot. Plus I think it gave me a heart condition.
LMAO. ritalin never caused any of this in me.

>>723652237
Getting through it without drugs is incredibly difficult. I'm gifted and have to come up with absurd mental gymnastics and tricks in order to be productive. I have no idea how normal/stupid people would cope without drugs.

>>723652765
yeah I just want it clearer than it is now where it's paradoxically both his gift and my fault

>>723652750
>all these spastic wristlet zoomers are just CHAD HUNTER WARRIORS
yeah, nah

>>723652539
>being diagnosed autist as a man
>diagnosed [...] as a man
*laughs in bpd*

>>723652676
It truly was a double edged sword. At least in the early years of the net people didn't trust everything they saw on it and knew it was a bunch of people screaming into a void. Too many people trust information here not knowing where it comes from.

>>723652760
I totally understand why a woman would not want to have kids.

>>723650140
ADHD is the inability or severe disability of the brain to release dopamine in response to stimuli. It causes things like lack of confidence, stress, obsession, and weak will. Just because you were able to overcome it without drugs doesn't mean its not real.

>>723642750
>Autism is not mental illness, it’s just a Tylenol overdose. Get over it,
It is at best an extreme impairment. That's why I'm sickened by the "autism is a superpower slogan". Yes, there are unicorn cases like Elon Musk and Albert Einstein. But for every Must there 10,000 autists who so disabled they will never be able to function as adults. I'd even go as far as to say these people are successful DESPITE their autism, not because of it.

>>723652806
I get hyper sexual on the meds, i'm fully diagnosed. I've tried adderal, vyvanse, dex, rittalin and a few others and i just end up cleaning my room and then gooning all day. I just sell my meds to normies now who want to feel whatever the pills do to normies. When i take them i just feel calm and REALLY fucking horny. What meds do you take?

>>723652760
i hate kids but that last bit is advanced fedora tipping

>>723652849
>yeah I just want it clearer than it is now
It will never be clear, and you continue to grasp onto the idea that god exists and controls everything. You need to let that go and realize it's just you and everyone else trying to connect and life decent lives.
There's no one to blame for your actions but you.

>>723652852
SEE
>>723652524
I'm not talking about the fake tiktok adhd faggots anon, i'm talking about people who REALLY have adhd. I'm fucking 6'4 nigga, I was made to hunt.

>>723652832
the problem is literally a deficit in your health and instead of addressing your health you're taking the short cut and making it worse, like trying to run an engine without ever changing the oil

>>723652956
well maybe don't put innocent frogposters into god's grand plan next time so we don't need to hve this discussion again

>>723652760
feminism

>>723653041
No such thing as an innocent frogposter

Adhd is actually paradoxical, you hyperfocus when it's something that interests you.

>>723653041
There's nothing innocent about a frogposter. You're mentally a child and jump through hoops to justify being a blight on society. You're a weird, gross little demon.

>>723653063
This is the single source of all modern evils, NO JOKE

>>723652867
>bpd
bipolar or borderline?

>>723652534
I thought I had damage. That my brain damaged
>>723652676
>Now they poison the minds of normal people with their hysteria on the internet
that would be dumblrites and other types of mentally ill snowflakes, aka the bad kind
science autists are a net positive on society, working single-mindedly on their discoveries with laser-like focus, unbothered by drama or politics. the only thing that matters to them is experiments and discovering new shit because it's fucking cool to do. they're only checked by their inability to adhere to adhere to humiliation rituals in modern society and follow social conventions to communicate with people who don't share their science autism, severely restricting their ability to market their research and secure funding.

>>723653108
which is why the entire thing is obviously complete bullshit

>>723653010
Bro what? ADHD isn't some diet thing. It's a personality trait/mental disorder depending on how you want to view it.

>>723652806
>take stims
>libido killed
Bizarre but worth it to be able to finish a task without wanting to do something else or stare at my phone.

>>723651702
>What I took away from school was a persistent sense of despair, and a reliance on escaping into imaginary fantasies
This. When I was in school I would find myself imaginary scenario where there was a school shooter, because I would rather think about myself getting shot to death by a lunatic then I would about continuing the school day.
>>723652192
This too. Even though I got through school easily, and not much bad happened to me there, it still felt like hell on earth to me. I still sometimes have nightmares about being dragged back there.

>>723641565 (OP)
Autism isn't real.

Low functioning autists are just retarded and high functioning autists just had shitty parents who didn't socialize them or teach them empathy properly.

>>723653346
>teach them empathy
you don't learn empathy retard

>>723653390
Did I say you could reply to me?

>>723651543
>Normal dose is 10, up to 25 with two visits to separate doctors who both agree medication is working but not well enough
My pediatrician put me on 30mg when I was in middle school. I was a fatass, so that might have been part of it.

>>723653234
yes it is retard
everyone is fat as fuck and out of shape now, has all kinds of health problems from a diet and lifestyle of slop and being sedentary
>hmmm everyone is developing mental problems too, obviously this is completely unrelated and you just need to take drugs
just trust the establishment that tried to get a generation of kids turned into trannies they're definitely not making shit up to exploit anybody

>>723653287
>I still sometimes have nightmares about being dragged back there.
are you me?
every few months or so i have a dream where i'm freaking out because i think i'm going to fail a class then at some point i just think "wait what the fuck, i graduated salutatorian over a decade ago"

>>723653459
Did your uncle ask for permission before he raped you into the man you are today?

>>723653182
Nope. How it works with ADHD is that your ability to swap focus is broken. You have periods where you can't focus, others when you hyperfocus, and the switch happens on its own at seemingly random. That's what makes it a disability.

>>723653459
go suck on a chode faggot

>>723652932
>What meds do you take?
nta but I'm on Atomoxetine(Strattera) at the moment.
I think it's working for me at the moment but I've heard it causes problems for some people's hearts.

What mental illness leads women to do this to themselves?

>>723653287
>I still sometimes have nightmares about being dragged back there.
Everybody does. It's a stock dream like losing teeth. In my dream I'm pissed because I'm stuck in school listening to some roastie teacher scream at me for forgetting my homework. Instead of being useful and making money at work. I hate teachers so much it's unreal.

>>723641683
it comes and goes with me, but it still sucks
sometimes ill go through something in a sitting, and sometimes ill retread the same god damn sentence/step of a thing because i just didnt fucking understand
i dunno how i got to where i am in my career

>>723651965
>OMG SO CUTE AND QUIRKY
Sperg women usually aren't retarded and obsessed with a single thing, but just weird women that speak weird.
If you really think both sexes are the same you're really wrong, as a bifag man I can tell you I wouldn't sleep with no male autist I've ever dealt with, and I've probably interacted with more than 50 or even near a 100.

>>723653493
I assume you're a troll and not just very retarded.

>>723650683
>>723651732
>>723652760
>>723653634
why does this spambot target these types of threads only

>>723653634
Hey at least being a vtuber is a better side hustle than being an onlyfans whore.

>>723653661
>>723653554
>its totally random bro it has nothing to do with your health being shit like everyone elses due to shit food and lifestyle

this is truly almost the most pathetic selection of posters ive ever seen online and you're only growing more retarded and numerous as time goes on
oh woe is me i cant concentrate sometimes i need to take fucking amphetamine for the rest of my life to function because i have trouble focusing
fucking retards lmao

>>723653534
>>723653589
bet you think you're real fucking clever huh

>>723644681
>and then you never open it again
fuck you get out of my house and my head

>>723652524
Where do you live that you get 2k for ADHD?

>>723641683
Unironically, what can be done about this? I can't make any progress in my life because of this.

>>723653346
This is based and you can tell so because it makes the cogs of the machine lash out.

>>723653634
Nothing wrong with this.

>can never enjoy vidya because I feel guilty and think "I should be doing something productive"
>try to do something productive like learn a skill, study a language, or apply for jobs
>just stare at a blank page and never actually get anything done

not being able to enjoy the things that used to make you happy while simultaneously not having the attention span, discipline, or organizational skills to do the things that are good for you is a unique hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
>tfw feel constantly fatigued and exhausted despite not doing anything

>>723653750
Pipe down pipsqueak.

>>723653659
Autistic women are better at hiding their treats out of greater fear of social exclusion. But they have higher burnout rates from emotional sensitivity and having to mask instead of speaking freely.

>>723641565 (OP)
I suffer from a more annoying thing.
When I read a book I get so immersed in a scene I start fantasizing and have to get up and pace l around to calm down so I can continue reading.

>>723653834
>stare at a miniature sun all day
>not doing anything

>>723645394
>tfw can't actually explain what's wrong with me because I'm socially retarded due to social isolation caused by said disorder
>can't even be social in first place because I forget the few interesting things happening in my life I could make small talk about.
Fun. Memed myself into quitting caffeine last week, not sure if it will help, but my psychiatrist used that to postpone giving me meds, so I have to wait till next appointment.

>>723653684
>WEEEEEEEEEEEHH!
>WHY ARE OFF-TOPIC POSTS MADE IN MY OFF-TOPIC THREAD????
>WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHH!!
grow the fuck up

>>723653906
you should channel that energy to create something
not everyone has an imagination

>>723653770
BC Canada

>>723653834
You and me both, pal.
>>723653926
Take your micro dwarf star project and go, Mr Science Man.

>>723643040
Adhd brings value in essentially trying a lot of different things rapidly in a very shallow manner. Essentially it's a search space strategy of evolution, Adhd represents the breadth search while autism represents depth search.

An autist will push the boundaries of their specific specialized field such as making better Spears or optimizing the way to make fire or sew animal hides. Adhd would instead find out new sources of water or food or try putting random shit together which through luck could come up with something.

I think the bronze amalgamation of nickel and tin that started the bronze age was found by someone with Adhd while the iron age of smelting iron with charcoal to strengthen it to make stronger tools was found out by an autist.

As you can probably tell by the depth of my post, I'm the autist.

What type of mental illness causes such delusions?

>>723653779
Drink water, relax your shoulders, untense your face, take deep breaths, name 5 objects you can spot in your environment, exercise, make sure not to eat too much salt or sugar too quickly, drop caffeine, eat more protein, masturbate, take occasional breaks, get 8 hours of sleep, get out of bed, take a shower, stop taking pharmaceuticals, make sure to acknowledge your accomplishments, talk to your mother, kiss your imouto, clean your room, eat fruit, be more optimistic.

>>723653634
god i hate how easy women have it, i wish i was born a woman

>>723653634
god i hate how easy women have it, i wish i was born a woman

>>723653965
Oh, and I did pretty well in that attention test on computer because normalfags thinks I'm too stupid to be able to watch literally two spots on the screen for the same symbols while I have goddamn psychologist giving me the urgency and body-doubling vibes... or maybe it's autism taking over, fuck if I knew.

>>723653634
god i hate how easy women have it, i wish i was born a woman

>>723651214
That's true, but after a certain point its okay to admit that you really can't do something. Sure you might be able to "walk" a marathon on crutches, but a paraplegic is never going to walk anywhere.

>>723654048
>constantly staring at the words on the miniature sun and drying out your eyes
>constantly intake useless information and shitposts that your brain can't use at all times
>why do i feel stressed, tired and unfulfilled all the time wtf

>>723654046
I'm also in BC and getting to see a doctor to get diagnosed is impossible (family doctor retired). All the recommendations is to get diagnosed online, which I doubt will give me disability benefits.

>>723653592
>Atomoxetine
That's a placebo med

You guys do realize if you were to actually seek out God with your full heart and genuine intention to get to know Him, He would help you better deal with whatever's going on in your lives and heads, right?

But you would rather just try to find some way in your own power that you think you can somehow "figure out" by yourself when you don't even know or are actually good at anything else. It's like, how do you hope to magically just find a way to make everything better by yourself when you yourself aren't enough to figure out or do literally anything else?

Go and seek God out and He will help you beyond anything you could have ever imagined of thought of on your own.

>>723653346
>Autism isn't real.
>Low functioning autists are just retard
so it IS real

An untold amount of people have issues because they don't fap enough unironically.

>>723654059
We progressed too quickly and now many of us suffer. There is no way to fix this besides world-wise eugenics. Maybe I low-key fear reproducing because I don't want to curse my children with both of those disorders at once.

>>723654182
My mother left when I was young and never contacted me again :(

Cipralex is really good, but there are serious side effects that you need to consider before you start taking it. Your doctor is a pill dispenser, and it’s ultimately your responsibility to get educated.

>>723654609
you're fucked in the head. jerking off non stop is literally THE THING that causes them to have their issues in the first place, including them having to drive to do anything at all anymore because they can just get quick dopamine release via ejaculating.

>>723654580
he's imaginary
retard

>>723652630
kek the retarded incels on this shitty site are the most pathetic subhumans imaginable. This is why reddit and twitter will always be superior places for video game discussion

>>723654609
>just jerk off bro, lol

>>723654580
>Go to the church and ask God to FUG you.

>>723644570
Get the fucking meds. Your brain chemicals are literally fucked from get-go.

>>723653634
'living in a system with a clown economy' isn't a mental illness. see also: retards kicking balls into goals getting more money a month than core jobs to a healthy society like teachers and nurses get a year

>>723654712
women are fucked in the head

>>723653747
You have to be 18 to post here

>>723653346
except the lacking empathy thing is actually a falsehood, and neurotypicals fail to empathise with autistics too. It's a double blind problem.

>>723654696
They should just masturbate in short few minute bursts to orgasm and clear their mind.
>>723654786
You'll burn in Hell, atheist

>>723654712
women are fucked in the head

>>723654846
ssshhhhh. don't tell him. more meds for us.

>>723654580
I've tried, and he doesn't help.

>>723654863
men fantasize about raping women too

>mental illness thread
>BROOOO WOMEN ARE BAD FOR YOU
>BROOOO SEEK GOD
just skip the gospel part and drop your tranny fetish or synthetic man pictures like you always do

>>723654546
the sudden lack of racing thoughts is pretty nice even if it is

Being able to read isn’t autism retards

Autistic people can’t even speak properly

Modern medicine is a clown show to feed you sulfates, because sulfur is a byproduct of gasoline production

>>723655064
like you just did?

>>723654816
GALTAR

>>723655064
add this comment to the pile of things you'll be reminded of when you burn in hell so you can continue being miserable over rejecting God.

>>723655105
how many times does it need to be explained to you what autism is?

>>723641565 (OP)
Stop reading boring books

I don't think I have anything wrong with me aside from having been neglected as a kid.
It's the world that's so fucking shit that I don't feel like I belong anywhere and have zero motivation to contribute to it beyond sustaining myself.

>>723655168
This

>>723655097
tried for a year, literally no difference, only shit ton of money wasted.
first week on ritalin (slow release) was the best thing ever

>>723653634
Breed legal woman now

>>723654908
I can't speak for everyone but I do feel a lot of empathy despite being diagnosed, just it's internalized and I struggle to express it.
I feel neurotypicals are like that with me too. It's like neither of us want to express emotion to each other for whatever reason.

>>723655276
Now (You) on the other hand, are mentally ill.

>>723655270
>neurotypical
now use neurodiverse/neurospicy and kys

>>723655270
yeah, what happens is you're dying inside, and they can't read it on your face, so they assume you're cold.

Meditation cures both autism and ADHD

>>723653634
wish i could do this as a man

>>723655276
no one watches Sam Hyde anymore. Grow up.

>>723655192
You should write the next linkin park album

>>723655526
just pull a chester before releasing it

What stops you from just humbling yourself and genuinely seeking God out to help you out of the cesspit you willingly dug yourself into?
Your sense of pride? For what?
Aren't you basically just seeing yourself as bottom of the barrel pathetic trash or whatever and are just constantly depressed, angry and bitter all the time? What do you even take pride in? You have nothing to boast about but your own delusions of grandeur.

>>723655442
So can Magic Mushrooms, if you want to face hell itself first. If you can get out the other end without breaking you though, you will have a new perspective and it can change your life. You'll be autistic still, but it won't matter.

>>723652390
Some people are genetically predisposed to get fat. I've seen people who eat, and eat, and eat and never gain a single pound. And I've people who starve themselves, but are still morbidly obese. Most people are fatasses due to bad habits, but genetics really can fuck you sometimes.

>>723655526
gosh, imagine not putting up a false tough-guy front on an anonymous website. It's like some of these people aren't as insecure as you are.

>>723655013
It's more like dominating them, but at that point we're splitting hairs.

>>723655168
>>723655251
What are some good books, bros? I'm always on the hunt for more. Right now I'm on the Memoirs of Casanova, which is ludicrously retarded in wonderful ways.

>>723652436
There were less of them. Maybe it was due to them breeding less, or being killed because they were weird and creepy back in the day.

>>723655573
I'm here whenever he wants to start helping.

>>723654426
Please repeat I was blinded by the miniature sun.
>>723655131
>WILL RETURN-
>...
>AFTER THESE MESSAGES
>RaaR

>>723652760
freedom?

>>723653634
reminder that even if you had a nine inch cock, you couldn't do this, it still wouldn't be enough

All of these people seeking diagnoses for these disorders should be disposed of in a grand event focused on genetic cleanliness.

If you are autistic, you are not interesting and likely don't bathe. All of your opinions are just parroting others.
If you have ADHD, you are lazy at a genetic level.

>>723655678
they would literally have been breeding more than now.

>>723652346
There are some people that just have problems regardless of how the world around them treats them. Not to say that what you say isn't usually the case, but sometimes people really are just crazy.

>>723647795
The brainfog struggle is real.

>>723653634
being american

ADHD has risen incredibly quickly in the last generations which proves it's not an inborn issue.

>>723655778
Wasn't Hitler Autistic? I might be imaging that but I do recall it.

>>723655710
THAT SUN IS NOT TOO BRIGHT

>bro I just want a family with an autistic woman
Isn't this a genetic disorder that intensifies? You are this desperate to have someone to talk about videogames (consoomer product slop) with?

>>723655778
>If you have ADHD, you are lazy at a genetic level.
Are you still lazy if you finished university and got a stable job before getting a diagnosis years later?

Just FYI no one in this thread has the actual bad autism because if you did you would probably need a 24/7 handler or spend all your free time playing with stuffed animals unironicaly.

>mfw I unironically have autism, epilepsy, adhd and schizophrenia
At least I almost never have schizo delusions and only fairly mild hallucinations

>>723655782
I don't know. Being a high functioning autist seems to be an advantage in modern society. So those types would breed more and make more autistic children. You also have to take into account that most people alive today were born more than 20 years ago. It takes time for collapsing birth rates to effect demographics.

None of you have any diagnosable issues stop using it as a cope for your garbage personality

when i was 8 i had fun playing with dirt, smashing rocks or even looking up at the sun
i had something wrong with me, but no one bothered to check

>>723641683
I spent an entire weekend playing Underrail's first "act" on 5x speed via cheat engine and continuously rerolling new characters.

>>723656095
that's rough, I thought my adhd, autism and bipolar was bad enough.
please enjoy a round of meds, on me

>>723641683
Love you akuma bro.

ADHD isn't real, it's just internet addiction. Everyone who claims to have ADHD coincidentally also spends 16 hours a day online, mostly consuming short-form slop like twitter, shorts, tiktok and 4chan. It's not fucking surprising that when you spend 100% of your time on low attention span activities your brain rewires in a way that makes doing high attention span activities more difficult.

>>723656126
A high-functioning autist is just an intelligent autist.
Autists have no instinctive understanding of the social game, but an intelligent autist can figure it out by treating it like an actual game.

However the advantageous trait is just intelligence, not the autism.

>thread for people who aren't actually willing to do anything to improve their situation and just want to cry like bitches over their current life situation (that they refuse to do anything about)
>all so they can get replies and attention from others telling them how much they agree with their life sucking and all that (but still never actually doing anything to try and get themselves out of their predicament)

>>723652542
I had the attention problems before getting medicated. My mother resisted putting me on the stuff for years due to how bad its effects were, but eventually she had to put me on it.
>seed oils
I never ate seed oils as a child, and I don't eat them that much now either. Unless you count olive oil as a seed oil.

>>723655852
it's because they stopped punishing kids for being "disruptive", and started to recognize there might be more going on.

>>723655926
as opposed to latest bad TV show

Doctor is hesitant to prescribe stimulants for ADHD. I've been on 5 diff kinds of non-stim ones over the years and it's fucked me 10 different ways. I've heard Ritalin and Adderall are life changing for people. Anyone had experiences?

>>723656126
>Being a high functioning autist seems to be an advantage in modern society.
it isn't.
Everyone was having kids back then because there was nothing else to do, no contraception, and you could literally just rape people and get away with it.

>>723656446
reply and attention

>>723655778
>webm in Hungary
Yikes, nuke that shithole

>>723656126
>being high functioning seems to be an advantage
Easy to talk from the point of view of someone who doesn't have this problem.
It's not a superpower, it's a fucking debilitating illness.

>>723656313
it's like ADHD is going to make people seek novelty all day, and the internet provides it.

>>723656446
>dude, lift weights to cure your autism
congratulations on your fourteenth birthday

>>723656446
>people who aren't actually willing to do anything to improve their situation
I'm taking my meds and everything is fine ever since. what more do you want?

>>723643498
I hate doing shit that I find boring and for that reason find it difficult to do it.

Apparently that qualifies me for mental illness nowm

>>723656621
>i've been on various different meds for multiple years and this only made things worse
>surely the meds aren't the issue, it's just their specific type lol
>lemme try and ingest more of them but with a different label attached to 'em

>>723641683
Wow, was thinking the same about me.

>>723656842
seek god

>>723656621
>Ritalin
It's good, but addicting and withdrawal is a bitch. also sometimes quite problematic to travel with internationally

I think I have adhd but it's not debilitating enough to go see a doctor and complain about it. But man sometimes I just really wonder if popping an addy would make my accounting job go better or if I really am just shit at concentrating on work with my phone so close to me.

>>723655926
When people on 4chan say autistic they don't mean actually autistic, they just want a girl who has similar interests. Or sometimes it's because people are retarded and genuinely believe autism is a disorder where you're socially awkward and have an interest in a specific subject.

>>723656948
he doesn't answer.
I'm unironically this close to seeking Satan.

>>723655480
cry more Hasan

>>723656495
It's not simply a matter of noticing more.
People's behavior has changed.

And why should this be any surprise?
We have effectively created a society that trains people to have ADHD.
People are bombarded with information from all angles and they need to learn to quickly assess and dismiss 99% of it.
It's natural that they would then have difficulty focusing when they want to.

They prefer to think they were born this way, but i seriously doubt this is the case.

>>723656948
god is dead and I killed him

>>723657018
No, I mean actually autistic. You don't understand the value of being able to connect with people who think like you do, instead of endlessly shutting you down.

how do I know if I have da 'tism?
I organize my music library, vidya, paperwork and stuff in my living space in a very specific way, surely that doesn't mean anything

>>723641565 (OP)
How.do I know if I'm mentally ill? How can I get gibs for a mental illness? I live in the United States.

>>723653637
>It's a stock dream like losing teeth.
I don't have dreams like that
>In my dream I'm pissed because I'm stuck in school listening to some roastie teacher scream at me for forgetting my homework
In my dreams I'm mortally terrified because I'm back there and trapped. Usually I either try to escape, and then they see me doing it and a bunch of cops, or stereotypical men in black start chasing me. Or I realize I'm a grown man in a highschool, and try to sneak out before anyone notices I'm there, and then the cops see me and start chasing me.

The only dreams I've had worse than those were the one where I accidentally murdered my dad during a failed suicide attempt, or the one where I killed a guy then got mauled to death by police dogs.

>>723657036
and what do you expect to get out of that?
you forfeit your soul for personal gain.

>>723657097
thanks, fuck that guy, he was a dickhead
what were his last words?

>>723657074
their behaviour changed, because people stopped beating them and screaming in their face. The underlying reasons for kids wanting to jump around and have fun haven't changed.
Were you ever a child?

>>723656621
>Ritalin
I've only taken Ritalin and Concerta (long acting). It's not life changing for me, but shuts out "static noise" and helps me focus.
I've also had to take breaks a few times with no withdrawal issues

>>723657245
So what you're saying is, we should beat and scream at children to prevent them from developing ADHD?

>>723657157
I half suspect "God" is a false deity in the first place.
His fixation on children's foreskins is very suspect.
All of his followers inevitably turn into murderous maniacs. "Pagan" cultures are a lot more mentally healthy. This is all kind of suspicious, isn't it?

>>723648204
He wore his hair like that in the Alpha games. That’s also why Ryu is wearing a white headband.

>>723657381
No. I'm saying ADHD is normal, and the education system is unnatural and wrong.

>>723655778
Literally all scientists, mathematicians and engineers of note throughout all of history had a form of autism.

>>723655778
Well I can take substances that are otherwise poisonous and feel normal, isn't that in some instances an advantage

>>723657036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAEfeNLKwd0

>>723654580
Fuck off with your jewish fairytales manchild

>>723657509
no they didn't

>>723657212
>>723657097
you're both going straight to Hell for playing around and mocking Him like this.

>>723657657
he can come down and explain things to me whenever he wants.

How come nobody points to the device that literally everyone has on their person at all times that enables them to scroll through and find anything they want in seconds?
How is that not destroying attention spans and minds?

>>723654580
As someone who was raised Christian, I came to the conclusion that Jesus was a great man worth looking up to, but god is either not real or legit evil.

>>723657657
>going straight to Hell
after raping your parents, I'm not even surprised. Your father was screaming louder than your whore of a mother

>thread about mental illness
>spergs arguing about god
many such cases!

>>723657773
hot!

>>723657497
Nah i don't buy that.

>>723655926
I'm desperate for a woman that I'm not inferior to, so that I won't have to worry about her hating me or leaving me because I'm not good enough. If she's as attachment prone and terminally averse to change as I am (both autistic traits) then she would never willingly leave anyways.

tldr an autistic woman is the only woman that would tolerate my bullshit

>>723655778
>t.

people on 4chan saying they have autism is like tumblrinas saying they have a bunch of different mental illnesses. most of you are fine you're just looking for attention and excuses

>>723657725
people have been noticing this for decades anon
before it was smartphones it was cellphones and before cellphones it was computers and before it was computers it was TV rotting your brain. the smartphone is just the end result of decades of research to make the ultimate in consumer-driven indulgence.
you can't stop it.

>>723657860
It's all new converts or new atheists can talk about. Really annoying.

>>723657604
Anon's special ed/gifted teachers told him otherwise

>>723657657
You’re also making a mockery of Him with your fire and brimstone histrionics. You’re doing some things that He specially tells us not to do.

>>723657702
>>723657773
>>723657892
He will at the Second Coming, so regardless, you better hope and pray you repented by them and are following Him or you will get to pay for every single injustice you have done onto others in life. Every sin, degeneracy and evil did you have brought upon yourself and the mockery you have put forth on the only True God alive that even allows you to take the breath you do now despite standing in rebellion against Him will all be put back on you.
You will beg and you will scream for forgiveness, yet you will have none as you've sealed your fate by then, choosing to live and bask in your misery that will confine you straight to the Lake of Fire where Satan and His demons will reside in forever and ever.

>>723657925
Bro, that's an insecure fantasy. You have to mask well enough to trick women into loving you.

>>723656042
>spend all your free time playing with stuffed animals unironicaly.
I do spend most of my time obsessing over cartoon animals and I'm incapable of handling any of my personal issues due to severe social anxiety, and just anxiety in general.

>>723657985
i think it's more of the opposite, you cannot be on 4chan longterm without being autistic or a schizoid, it's just not realistic. the very concept of posting anonymously, and even preferring it, is offensive to a normal, well developed brain

>>723658076
Sorry bro you missed the rapture boat just like the rest of us sinners.

The future is old men.

>>723658126
Not easily, honestly. I’m neither and have been hanging out here off and on for almost 20 years.

>>723658062
Jesus was a fire and brimstone preacher.

>>723657920
you don't buy that our hundred year old education system could be at fault, as opposed to millions of years of biology?

>>723656743
I say this as an autist. I would have super powers if I could just get over the severe anxiety (and didn't also have adhd)

>>723656042
That's just because medical niggers are retarded for giving the same name "autism" to completely different disabilities.

>>723641565 (OP)
People with ADHD that love reading books are probably going to have the same focus as the guy with autism because of the ADHD hyper focus

>>723658062
Anon, I do not think he has studied the bible at all. He prob just watches youtube videos and goes to church where he has someone tell him what to think. I studied theology in University and people like him don't even understand the underlying teachings of the bible that are the same in nearly every holy book. It's impossible to reason with people like him.

>>723657985
>you're looking for attention on an anonymous website
I don't tell people I have autism IRL. It's a source of shame.

>>723658126
>the very concept of posting anonymously, and even preferring it, is offensive to a normal, well developed brain
You're a faggot if you don't understand why this is better

>>723658076
sounds like I'm being threatened bro
I don't like being threatened, that's not how you convince someone to like you and the shit you like
It just makes us want to avoid you and call the fucking cops on your ass if you go too far

>>723656313
I had these problems before I started using the internet. I've tried quitting the internet, and the problem didn't go away. I already don't use tiktok, shorts, or twitter.

>>723658171
He wasn’t. He’s God, not a simple preacher. He preached love, mercy and forgiveness. He said that those who close the gates of heaven in other’s faces only ensure they, themselves, aren’t getting in.
He told us not to cast pearls before swine and to not waste undue amounts of time proselytizing.
Get a grip, and please shut the fuck up.

>>723654580
If god is real then he just stares smugly at his owned damned creation, amused at the struggle like a psychotic child watching ants drown after pouring water on the nest
If god is real he, more than anything else in the world, deserves to be cut down like a dog.
He can smite me for all I care, but he won't because his bitch ass doesn't exi

>>723658076
I've tried things his way enough times. He can come explain his insanely specific rules and expectations to me if he wants. I'm right here.
Personally, I'm struggling to see why wanting things, and being friends with gay people or Shinto worshipers is a problem.

>>723658176
Nobody had trouble trouble focusing for the thousands of years before kids had to go to school.
And then for the hundred years where kids had to go to school, nobody had trouble focusing either.
Then suddenly in the 21st century everyone starts having trouble focusing.

So no, i don't think schools are the problem.

>>723656621
I think adderall gave me a heart condition

>>723658445
>Then suddenly in the 21st century everyone starts having trouble focusing.
>suddenly
please be retarded somewhere else

>>723658228
True. I’m wasting my time.

>>723656948
Already doing that, what now?

>>723658340
>immediately starts seething with rage against his supposed "brother" in Christ then start spewing foul language
yeah, you're larping alright

>>723658572
kick his ass

>>723657920
No, I think he's got a point.

>>723658445
Kids used to go to work and exhaust themselves, instead of being expected to sit in a chair and write things down all day.

>>723641565 (OP)
Is that an autistic thing? I do that.

>>723654695
Cipralex isn't a adhd medication, it's antidepressant. A doctor should know the usual side effects of SSRI's.

>>723657725
I got rid of my cellphone and still have this problem. I reduced my computer to one too underpowered to render brainrot sites and I still have this problem. All I've done is replace doom scrolling with staring at the ceiling.

>>723658076
kinda gay tb honest

>>723658090
I wouldn't be able to do it, I already can't function on my own, so masking is a lost cause. And even if I could, the stress caused by it would kill me. I'll just remain single and enjoy the fantasy.

>>723658517
Idiot.
I was simply not making assumptions about the cause.

>>723658710
So why didn't that cause issues with focus before?

>>723659013
>be retarded somewhere else
Did I fucking stutter?

>>723658598
You wish. Anybody who has actually bothered to read the gospels and holds them in any amount of esteem isn’t going to waste their time telling Anonymous that he’s going to hell.

>>723659075
If you want to tap out of the argument just do it. I'm not gonna give you permission.

>>723646620
>the brain is just like a muscle bro! just use it more and it will get bigger le bigger bro!
The more mentally active you are, the less likely you are to get things like Alzheimer. It's pretty obvious that using your brain makes it better at being used

>>723659013
Kids can naturally "focus" when they aren't being expected to focus on things that are boring and stupid.
I know kids with ADHD, and they can focus just fine, when you give them something they actually engage with, which is going to be something more physical and movement based, since that's the stage of development kids are on. I've sat and watched these kids play with buckets and a hose for hours.

>>723641565 (OP)
ADHD certainly does. I start many games, but finish few.

>>723655163
Surely you must realize that atheists by their very nature don't take statements like this seriously. You say thought-terminating cliches like this because deep down you're afraid that if you don't attack nonbelievers you'll become one and you'll be the one burning in hell.

>>723659075
yeah a little

>>723658445
>hundreds of years of schooling
For most of those hundreds 90% of the population didn't go to school at all. They were just illiterate. The other ten percent didn't get nearly as much schooling as the average normie does today. Then after mandatory universal schooling was implemented, the school days were shorter than they are now, started later, and most kids only went a few years, as opposed to going from 5 to 17 (24 if you go to college)

>>723659090
I've read the gospels, and I don't remember Hell coming up.

>>723658445
>Nobody had trouble trouble focusing for the hundred years
>Then suddenly in the 21st century
>>723659013
>I was simply not making assumptions
Are you by any chance mentally handicapped?

>>723659461
Christ mentions it several times in Matthew.

>>723659230
Mandatory schooling started in Prussia after the French Revolution.
By the beggining of the 20th century it was pretty widespread in Europe and elsewhere and most of the population did go to school.
But throughout this century, ADHD symptoms were not more common than previous unschooled generations.

>>723659686
Maybe Americans are naturally ADHD then. This country is descended primarily of people who couldn't stand living in the the organized and controlled environment of Europe.

>>723659686
There were always kids who didn't focus retard, but they were just seen as lazy or trouble makers. It took a lot of time for people to start thinking "why are they lazy or trouble makers?" ADHD and autism traits have always existed in people. ADHD people used to become sailors, frontier men ect. Sure modern tech makes it worse but some people weather it better than others. What is it if not adhd-traits?

>>723659848
Amerifats are just religous retards. Europe has become a much better place after all those mentally disabled "people" left

>>723659189
You talk like ADHD just isn't such a big deal and people should just do what they want and not be forced into things, but that's not how anything works.
Everyone needs to sometimes do things they don't like to accomplish their goals, which people with ADHD have a hard time with, and even things that are enjoyable and fulfilling sometimes need a level of commitment someone with ADHD can't muster.

>>723660126
Even American atheists are still like that.

>>723660126
It is funny how few of my countrymen in America seem to understand that we were founded by people who were too annoying to stay in Europe.