>>723663039 >shills are dishonest >you openly lied >I called you on it >that makes me the shill
Imagine being Indian. I guess you don't have to imagine that.
>>723663495 >lies >continues lying >"UR MAD SAAR"
Cope and seethe. I own D4, which you're mad you can't play. But you can play Blizzdrone games like Warcraft and Starcraft as a consolation.
>>723663784
I'm a dumb amerishart, and I don't even play Blizzard shit. I spent the €10 that people spend on battle passes and filled up at the petrol station. I throw all Blizzard games in the rubbish bin.
As someone who loved Diablo 1 & 2 but had his love for the franchise killed by 3 and has 4 in his library only because it was a free game on PSN one month - should I ever play this shit?
>>723664284
Depends on what killed your love for diablo in 3. If it was gameplay, 4 plays very similarly to 3 now where you waste screens full of enemies. If it was story, it is improved (not saying much), the main campaign was a good diablo story but the expansion story was bad.
They have changed itemization several times now bc they launched with no design ideas and just added forum feedback to diablo 3 standards. Lickable demon nipples tbho
I like Diablo4 but as a storyfag I don't care for endgame repetitive content and I hated how they left the story unfinished and apparently with no further expansions.
I would rather the entire sub-genre of diablo-likes just permanently died. Every single one of them, since Diablo 2, the progenitor, focused on one thing and one thing only - gambling. So they all may just as well be cast into oblivion.
>>723666810 >no further expansions
As far as I know, a second expansion is in the works. There'd be no reason not to make one, when the game makes as much money as it does.
I was trying to find a mindless ARPG and I tried this and it was very slow and boring. I tried poe2 and I'm almost 20 hours in while playing monk. Its weird that people said Poe2 has a very hard learning curve. Sure there's a lot to learn but it definitely doesnt feel like a huge curve that takes a while. Also the controller support is way better. I played MK+B for the first 18 hours and I tried controller on a whim and it's pretty fucking good.
>>723667498
Oh, I forgot. You're privy to sales numbers that show it made negative money. >tons of people playing >everyone has the expansion, identifiable by wings/runes/etc >but you know >>723667729
VoH had a lot of unique assets, thougheverbeit.
>expansion cost upwards of 100$ >expansion made the map 25% bigger with zero new content, just threw in shit that the original game launched with >we got a class that nobody asked for >we got mercs that you cannot gear that are just walking cosmetics >they did a stat squish with the expansion so we no longer do billions of damage >we still do billions of damage >they did zero planning for what would happen with all the uniques doing the stat squish >90% of all uniques brick with the stat squish >its been over a year now and none of these bricked uniques have been looked into getting fixed
>>723659987 (OP)
Diablo IV wasn't a game. it was a product designed to hit certain internal metric milestones. it wasn't made to be fun or innovative, it was made to make numbers on a graph in Activitsion HQ go up. which is really ironic actually.
>>723659987 (OP)
arpg "fans" dont know what they want
path of exile is the best arpg ever made and every diablo fag that tries it usually falls in love with it
>>723666956
D4 is almost entirely deterministic in building and gearing a character, and in the next season update they're removing randomness from gear augmentation. Hell, you can exhaust a boss' loot table in probably less than 5 kills. POE1/2 are slot machine simulators because they're trying so badly to be "le true d2 successor" instead of trying to be a good game. Grim Dawn and Last Epoch are grindy for apparent reason.
>>723666956
it's not even a distinct game genre, it's just remaking Diablo 2 over and over again. FPS games evolved beyond Doom, the RPG genre evolved past Ultima but "ARPGs" have always been Diablo 2 clones and nothing more.
>>723668191
it was designed by trannies who have no idea what the fuck they are doing to be an e-sport >dungeon affixes had retail WoW M+ affixes >blizzard held an e-sport event that nobody showed up to
every single blizzard game literally fucking died an e-sport this one included >starcraft died an e-sport >overwatch died an e-sport >overwatch 2 died an e-sport >hearthstone died an e-sport >warcraft died an e-sport >raiding died an e-sport >dungeons died an e-sport >pvp died an e-sport >heroes of the storm died an e-sport >diablo died an e-sport
>>723659987 (OP)
40$ expansion to a 70$ game
I liked the base game of D4 but i see no reason to come back and play it over and over again for new seasons or play for infinite end game progression. From what i heard the vessel of hatred campaign is way too short and not great and thats all i really care about
>>723668432
they nerfed all the numbers on everything so that player power wouldnt do billions of damage, all items included. This did nothing to player power in the long term but all uniques that did shit like 5000 damage now do 500 damage and to this day haven't been looked at
>>723668572 >From what i heard the vessel of hatred campaign is way too short and not great
what you don't find it brave and stunning when WOMEN SCREAM?
>>723664019 >wait for sale >buy current league supporter pack and get money back in shop points >get sickass armor and can use shop points on the discounted stash tabs
its not that hard
>>723668635
To be honest that advertisement with her screaming was enough to keep me away. None of the characters from the campaign were particularly memorable but i remember she was annoying, the fact that the story for vessel was centered around her is so dumb lol
players were clearing content too fast and their internal metrics determine how fast content is supposed to be cleared and the goal is to not respect player time and keep them in the D4 ecosystem away from POE or other games in general. monopolize player time is the goal, not fun and certainly not art.
>>723668248
Until you reach the end game and you meet the absolute worst of the ARPG "community". Just look at /poeg/.
People who loved Diablo2 and had fond memories of the genre weren't the ones who did endless Baal runs and went to a point that they were mowing down entire maps with hammerdin and blizzard spam.