Thread 723665985

>fetch quest
>fetch quest but good rep
>fetch quest but bad rep
>fetch quest but use magic
>fetch quest but use ranged
>follow the convenient bright flashing point on the minimap
>in fucking 2004
This game isnt just mediocre or bad. It is literal garbage. Literally the most "standard" shallow, depthless, pointless, hollow game I have ever played. I feel like I have played this game a hundred times before on shitty online RPG sites in the late 2000s like a dozen fucking times. And I no longer have the tiny "entertained by anything that lets you ignore homework and feel like you're living out a heroic fantasy" in your head shit games with no actual substance to any of that fantasy. Nothing heroic you actually do. Nothing creative, Nothing thoughtful. Just follow the fucking marker. Press A in front of NPCs, then follow the marker again and spam X to hit things.

Kill yourselves for anyone of you ever convincing me there was anything worth in this game.

I want a DISSERTATION right now on why everything I said about the game is wrong, so that I can atleast have some hope that its just me. Not the game.

skill issue. greasy hands typed this post.
>i know, ill be reductive on /v/ for attention

>>723666087
So what am I missing?

>>723665985 (OP)
>feel tempted to try fable
>watch boyfriend play fable 3 one day
>it's literally this
am i missing something

>>723666265
>boyfriend

>>723665985 (OP)
lots of mid 00s (or really any other 'old') shit was extremely basic and didn't stand the test of time at all
most stuff in general is bad, obvious to everyone who isn't a 13 year old
fable in particular could've been a decent foundation to a decent RPG series but Molyneux is something in between of a scammer and a hack and nuked the series to bits

>>723665985 (OP)
>And I no longer have the tiny "entertained by anything that lets you ignore homework and feel like you're living out a heroic fantasy"

You can kill NPC’s. That makes it better than every Nintendo game ever fucking made

>>723666360
he topped me after btw

I lost my virginity in fable

>>723665985 (OP)
And still it had something that few games to this day can even replicate, a soul.

>>723666556
I lost my virginity when I met a man in Roblox.

Somebody DEAR GOD recommend me an actual good RPG before I go insane from how consistently garbage and shallow this genre is and give up for good. I just need ONE special one with quests that arent entirely dialogue boxes and walking from one point to another in the most tediously elaborate way possible, whether that involves a waste of time combat encounter that takes much longer than any combat encounter ever should, not because of the complexity, but because the game arbitrary limits or restricts the actions you can take because "thats what RPGs do" and not because "thats how combat is made complex" because OF COURSE THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO MAKE COMBAT MORE COMPLEX ON ITS FACE. Theres no necessary relationship to both facts.

>>723666703
Disco Elysium

>>723666585
>a soul
Oh, absolutely. It, also, was FUN, and every other word you can add your own meaning to so that you don't have to come up with an actual argument.

>>723666703
What rpgs have you played that you liked?

>>723666846
Pokemon Z-A

>>723666703
Quake.

>>723666585
>soul = I was a child when I played it

>>723666265
>fable 3
that's literally the worst one
the og fable is good, not like mindblowing but good
the soundtrack is still like, unparalleled
2 isn't as good as 1 but still okay


https://youtu.be/Dgxcij40me4

>>723666703
xenosaga episode ii

I don't care how shitty zoomers who watched a playthrough call it, I'm a sucker for games with "just change your build and get good in everything" level up systems

>>723666846
Cyberpunk

>>723666776
This is actually a decent one, but id almost not even consider it an RPG, because of how engaging its dialogue is in making the entire point of the game to essentially understand your character, your enviroment, and what to do with your life/time. Its basically one of the few games where that whole Ludonarratove resonance meme is so perfectly in sync that you can insert yourself into the game naturally and perform actions and have interactions naturally that you have genuine natural interest in understanding, solving, and engaging with.

I dont know why, but its very rare games do this. Even something like Baldurs Gate which I tried to play last year. Its much more focused on the allure of "choice" rather than the dialogue actually being engaging or interesting. I forgot the exact example. But I remember this moment somewhat early in the game, where you have to move a bear from an elevator or something, and literally all of the choices except for the obvious bad choice accomplish the exact same thing

>>723667232
Another game that really does its "story drives the gameplay" thing well is Age of Decadence but that might be too janky for you. Its central hook is basically "well if you pick the merchant class then you won't try to go into seedy alleys and do combat encounters cause you'll just get shanked"
Also go play Planescape Torment you fucking niggerfaggot

>>723666360
>phoneposting
you're a bigger faggot than him

>>723666483
Disgusting

>>723665985 (OP)
Ok, zoomer.

2 is better

>>723667456
I posted from a PC, faggot. I'm curious as to what you think identifies my post as a phonepost, though.

>>723667456
>he doesn't know about 4chanX
cute

>>723666915
>soul = i wasn't a whiny fag that complains about playing a game

>>723665985 (OP)
all of the above & the movement is way too floaty

>>723667626
the fact that you type and act like a faggot, that's all

>>723668007
At least I'm only acting like one.

>>723667387
>Also go play Planescape Torment you fucking niggerfaggot
Nah. I dont like story focused games. Unless the game lets me solve story related problems in smart ways.

>>723665985 (OP)
I replayed Fable TLS a while ago, it's still a fun and charming game. Though playing a pure wizard is a slog in TLS - the endgame enemies have too much health, and dragon Jack is a cancer with any "elemental" spell except Shock. Maybe Battle Charge would've worked well, but I didn't test it.
Turns out, russian localization added an insane amount of soul to the game - the original english voices don't work nearly as well.

>>723668225
The whole point of RPGs is to be story-focused, sorry

>>723665985 (OP)
god i love this game.

>>723667939
How can movement be "floaty" in a game you cant even junp in? Its more like the movement is way to weirdly rigid. If you try to walk a bit before you start jogging youll notice your character sort of "slides" into the animation for a very brief moment. So he starts moving before even moving. Basically im pretty sure the walk cycle isnt actually real and just looks like youre walking.

yeah but you can fuck a lot of girls in this game

>>723668201
I'm not the fag you originally replied to so I never was insinuated to be one at any point by you until now, meaning your retort is redundant unless directed at the original post, making you a faggot and redundant lmao I win

>>723668301
Then why does /v/ love them so much? I thought /v/ was gameplay first and hates "movie games". I hope were not so juvenile that we think movie can only mean Realistic graphics that can only exist in 2015 and beyond, and that something can have a movie structure or meandering without that

>>723668481
More like book games, anon

>>723668552
fine, whatever term you want, ive always thought the moviegame term was mostly arbitrary anyway, point is, non gameplay focused games get dicksucked here aslong as theyre called rpgs for...what?

>>723668719
>thought the moviegame term was mostly arbitrary anyway
Well fucking duh. Memes are always arbitrary
>non gameplay focused games get dicksucked here aslong as theyre called rpgs for...what?
Do you want the cold hard truth? Do you want to know why "the combat is good, for an RPG" is a phrase that people say? Do you want to know why roguelites exist, while we're at it?
Because it's fun to have your character become stronger

>>723666703
Age of Decadence and Jagged Alliance 2

hero try to get your multiplier even higher

Oh yeah also all discussion about the concept of RPGs aside, play Alpha Protocol. I genuinely don't think any other game has that level of choice & consequence, Witcher 2's entirely different chapter 2 is nothing compared to it
>>723668873
Based AoD chad. Never got around to playing JA2 as a kid, is the remake good or do I need to stick to the original?

>>723668930
JA2 is the only good one.
If you feel like it's too easy, install the 1.13 patch.

>>723669343
>JA2 is the only good one.
Right I forgot it's not a remake but a sequel that they made recently

>>723668836
>Because it's fun to have your character become stronger
yeah but why not just play something like cookie clicker at that point?

once youve played enough progression games, you realize youre in it more for the progression and less for the game, and that the best "games" are the ones that less your progression feel tedious enough to be invested, but not so tedious that you see no point from the get go.

ive wondered if the widespread obsessions with open worlds and rpgs is just a product of billions of shallow people reaping the benefits of the abundance of capitalism with no real substance to their character to produce something significant, creative, or thoughtful, so they waste the abundance of time and money they have on experiences without standard. Experiences that exist just to experience. To waste as much time as possible, gathering things, and testing out the outcome/consequence of interactions that even though lack the depth of real life, are sufficient because the mundanity and bore of a life without any values, without anything to really work for, other than work, so that you can continue living to work, allows for one to get the sense and feeling that they are experiencing more of a "life" than they actually are. This isnt about escapism. Its about simply having something to do, that you cant, because you wouldnt be doing anything meaningful or fulfilling anyway without the game. Just consuming something else.

RPGs and Open worlds, like binge watching before them. Its just a way to have "experiences" near endless, lengthy experiences that feel like they "progress" even though the tv show, and the game, is really designed to never reall change, to always be the same, constant, never really go anywhere, but give the impression it is or will, because its just about experiencing.

>>723666703
KOTOR2?

Plays RPG
Doesnt want to roleplay

>>723669425
Naw I don't like those open worlds with copypasted "content" all over, you need to revise your psychology study
>yeah but why not just play something like cookie clicker at that point?
I have in fact played idle games while working so I can check in every couple hours and see that number went up
RPGs hit a different niche though, cause your character gets stronger and you get to see the effect rather than just a number
Also sorry but again, we do genuinely enjoy the stories

>>723669494
It is impossible to roleplay without having your experience change on the fly depending on your decisions, which requires a dungeon or game master
Yes, I am saying only TTRPGs can be actual RPGs

>>723665985 (OP)
The worst thing about the first Fable is every single "choice" in the game is either "kill this person or don't kill this person" and if you choose to not kill the person you never see them in the game again anyways. The only difference is whether you get good by points or bad boy points.

>>723665985 (OP)
We all knew the game was pure hype and actually shallow whenever it was first released. You're not making an amazing revelation, you're stumbling onto the obvious 20 years after the fact.

>>723669889
But YOU CAN DO ANYTHING!

>>723669889
>You're not making an amazing revelation, you're stumbling onto the obvious 20 years after the fact.
I thought the game was probably kinda meh, but not nearly as genuinely shallow and bad, and seemingly without any overarching coherent design besides "fetch quest but awarded good boy points, or awarded bad boy points"

>>723669754
Play the videogame, its just like doing a splatbook expansion
If you want anything more you need a group and someone forced to DM

>>723669768
And in the end it doesn't even matter. You can just throw money at your morality meter to swing it full tilt in either direction. I can't remember what it was to go to the good side, but all it takes to become Darth Vader is a bucket of KFC.

>>723665985 (OP)
it's got a real nice feel, though. I liked the humor too.

gay shit and obvious diversity celebration too lol

>>723669889
He's also an idiot. For all of Molyneux's broken promises over the years, he still ended up shipping a charming game in its own way. For all you couldn't do in Fable, it was a halfway decent game.

You want a real RPG? KOTOR and KOTOR2?

>>723670891
I always wanna make fun of KotOR2's rushed ending but then I remember mind-controlling one of the lightsabers the final boss used against you which made the entire fight hilarious

>>723671037
Is the interactivity outside dialogue boxes and quests in the KOTOR series actually good?

>>723671118
Go play Minecraft

>>723665985 (OP)
First quest
>kill wasp queen
Second quest
>defend or attack orchard farm
Third quest
>escort traders to barrow fields
Fourth quest
>kill twinblade
Fifth quest
>find the archeologist
Sixth quest
>kill white balverine
Seventh Quest
>compete in the arena
....... where are all the fetch quests, you fucking lying faggot? OP is probably some pervert millenial losing thier mind because you can only play as a white man.

>>723671391
>>escort traders to barrow fields
Thanks, you just stopped me from replaying this game
FUCK THOSE RETARDS
GET EATEN BY DARKNESS DOGS OR WHATEVER IT WAS YOU CUNTS

>>723666776
the G in RPG stands for "game"

>>723671391
>doesnt understand that "kill something and return to me" "quests" are fetch quests in effect even if youre not literally getting something.

the problem with fetch quests, is going to Area C, to compelete some simple repetetive menial task for someone in Area A, and chances are youll have to go through Area B to get to Area C, and even if you dont its a tedious waste of time nonetheless, all to return to Area A...like youre following a straight line.

>>723665985 (OP)
All I remember from that game is accidentally hitting a barrel and having the whole city's guard quarter me for it.

>>723671705
>it's a fetch quest because you get a quest from a questgiver, then go do something, then go back to get your reward
That's every quest

>>723665985 (OP)
fable series are like cozy games for me, do a good run, evil run, resurrect a dog, dye your jackets, shoot up a town, sacrifice your wives in a ritual, it's awesome

>>723665985 (OP)
2 was better. As someone who actually played Fable (non-TLC) back on the xbox first, I have no idea why it has fans. The game is like four hours long and is linear and shallow as fuck.

>>723671751
>OI M8 YOU GOT A LOISENCE FOR THAT BARREL SMASHING?

>>723666814
>actual argument
none is required when none is presented
all of your posts can be summarized as
>i don't like thing

>>723671796
No its not. Some games don't have you doing the exact same action an arbitrary number of times before you can complete a task and return to the quest giver. Sometimes you actually have to interact with the enviroment to change it. Or have to avoid a trap, obstacle, or navigate some complex area in a precise manner that tests your memory or reflexes, and sometimes, even rarer, you have to actually think about figuring out how to actually solve a problem without failure or consequence. I dont simply mean "choosing between the bright green choice vs the dark red choice thats obviously evil and wrong" I mean actually having to understand the situation and circumstance to accomplish the right thing.

(Is there a game like this anyway)

Atleast in theory. Youre actually right that most quests are like fable, and thats exactly why fable is so disappointing because I expected an actual adventure where you have to engage with a hostile/unwelcoming world and actually explore and find accomplish semi difficult things while smartly avoiding poor consequences. Instead it was some of the most shallow binary decisions ever aslong with "do X number of thing then return to Place A" or "bring X number of thing to Place A". Im sure there are SOME not "horrible" quests. But when enough, or too many are so simple and mindless, its not worth a few good ones.

>>723672193
Still a fetch quest if you have to avoid an obstacle, nigger. You just proved every quest in every game is a fetch quest

>>723666145
A father figure and a purpose in life.

>>723672270
You didnt engage with what I said. You can go sleep in the dirt now.

>>723665985 (OP)
was this written by AI? almost nothing of what you wrote is in the game

>>723672274
>Gawd all you do in this game is press buttons and make the corresponding audio visual cues appear gawd why is games so garbage
Round and round we go where we stop only God knows

>>723671482
Literally just sprint all the way and they teleport along with you before they can get btfo

>>723671705
>>723672193
Get a loada this fag

>>723674078
whats wrong about what he said

>>723665985 (OP)
>t. chicken chaser

>>723674236
There's nothing about Fable that you can't say about 99% of rpgs.

>>723671482
Just leave them near the entrance after moving to a next area, and heal them with the spell if they're damaged. Though the bandits, who completely ignore your presence and rush straight to traders no matter how far they are, are indeed annoying.

>>723675486
Chicken jockey? You race chickens?

>>723671482
Skill Issue