Thread 723684294

Why do people like or hate Mega Starmie? I am unsure on what people's actual opinion of it is, all I know is that everybody is talking about it.

The same reason why people hate whytebois with tiny white peckers??? The same reason why white women breed with hung brown men and have beautiful mixed race children???

Artificial affection.

>>723684678
What the fuck are you talking about Jesse

Apparently it's developing human-like traits in order to supplant humanity. That's fucking awesome. No Pokémon's ever evolved in that direction before.

>>723684807
I think it's more that the ones who kneejerk hate every new design don't realize it's based on a concept, the ones who genuinely like it realize it's based on a concept to begin with, and then there are the mindless drones who hate it, then start liking it once they're told it's based on a concept.

Smart

i don't think it's a good design, but it is funny looking, and that's more of a reaction than other megas have gotten

You can call it "Starmeme"

>>723684807
>>723684904
what the fuck is a "concept"? Isn't every design ever based on a concept?

>>723684294 (OP)
It's so fucking stupid that it loops back around to being peak.
But I never want to hear GameFreak make excuses about not being able to think of a design for high demand fan favorites like Mega Flygon ever again.

>>723685834
It's in reference to people who look at a shit design and defend it because "it's based on something"
The prime example is baxcalibur. It looks awful but people defend it because "lmao didn't you know it's based on godzilla"

>>723684294 (OP)
Hate is divided between the people who don't like the design and tourists who are using every excuse under the sun to shit on the game.
Like is simple, people don't need reasons to like stuff, they just do, it appeals to them, they find it funny or cute or cool or whatever.

>>723684294 (OP)
It's so dumb that it's endearing.

>>723686063
Which is retarded because we already had a Godzillamon.

>>723685975
Has Game Freak actually made that excuse or is it just an assumption because they haven't made Mega Flygon yet

>>723684294 (OP)
Alright, /v/.
Post your Mega Starmie concept designs then if you think you can do better.
I can't draw so I'm using Gay-i.

Here is water/flying mega starmie (starthey).
They/them flies by pooping out sparkles.
It has so much power and energy that the second-starfish on his back fell off and it took to the skies and eventually flies all the way into space. And that's where stars come from according to the ancient pokemon legend.

Lol.

It's funny that Starmie was already a meme because of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOzdKjux6vI and now it gets a second memeworthy thing thanks to Mega Starmie. Starmie is blessed by meme magic

I don't think Starmie needed a Mega to begin with. It was a perfect design.

>>723685975
Don't worry anon, they'll eventually come up with a retarded looking design that is totally okay because it's a reference to something and will START GROWING ON YOU before too long. :)

>>723686825
Tangela was also a perfect design and they went ahead and ruined it with Tangrowth years ago. I'm long used to classic Pokemon getting an inferior evolution out of nowhere. Of course sometimes you have situations where an absolute shit design like Nosepass gets an excellent evolution in a later gen so it can go either way.

>>723686620
Spaceship carrier, a giant sideways-flying Starmie with a bunch of tiny Starmies flying around it

>>723686474
These have always been a diamond dozen

>>723687027
>I'm long used to classic Pokemon getting an inferior evolution out of nowhere
That was gen 4's thing (still the worst generation for pokemon designs to this very day)

>>723687705
That's a Baragonmon though.

It's one of the greatest vidya designs ever created.

>>723687778
I like how people literally developed Stockholm syndrome for this abomination just because he was the only one of those abortion evolutions that was meta

>>723684294 (OP)
The design itself is pure garbage. It just happens to look funny enough for some people to like it for the meme.

>>723687909
It isn't really fitting for the line, but I don't think it's a bad design on its own
Generally they should really just not make crossgen evolutions

>>723688007
Magneton is 3 fucking magnemites, hang yourself kantoddler scum

>>723687778
>gen 4's thing (still the worst generation for pokemon designs to this very day)
Mostly true, but you posted one of the good ones and there were some others like Mismagius, Honchkrow, Froslass.
>>723687909
I never knew or cared about meta, I liked Magnezone even back then because it looks like a cool UFO alien thing.

>>723686595
>Has Game Freak actually made that excuse
Yes. There was an interview around 2015 where Sugimori said they planned for a Mega Flygon as early as XY but couldn't come up with a design.

>>723688102
Yes I think anyone can see that. What is your point

>>723687778
At least we got

>Mismagius
>Honchkrow
>Weavile
>Yanmega
>Leafeon
>Glaceon
>Gliscor
>Gallade

out of it, though.
Also Gen 5 was worse for designs.

>>723684294 (OP)
it's incredible and I love everything about it, I think the ironic types are on the fence waiting to see if people earnestly like it before they put on a show about how it's funny meme design or garbage and Nintendo doesn't try

>>723688104
>>723688215
Mismagious isn't the worst thing ever but it's still a Misdreavus downgrade.
Paradox 'mons saved her.

>>723688423
That's ugly as shit.

>>723685975
it's funny because I remember the sounds Starmie made in the anime way back and never realized it was supposed to be a Tokusatsu reference

>>723688454
this

>>723685975
Starmie always seemed like a very hard pokemon. It moves around with levitation and I at least thought it couldn't bend its arms.

The mega form just looks immersion breaking. It's made of the same material, but now it doesn't levitate but bends the arms like they're elastic.

>>723687810
Looks like Patrick Star is in a gay super hero gimp suit made just subtle enough to pass in kid's content without the FCC freaking the fuck out.

>>723684904
Starmie is good regardless though, it's an extremely weird an alien concept, like fish feel slightly more human but a Starfish is almost more alien than an octopus, an invertebrate, its the kind of thing you woudn't think is sentient but it's out their fighting for you like it has just enough inteligence to understand it's a Pokemon, I love it and this feels like the perfect evolution of that, Tokusatsu or not, it's uncanny in a way that inspires imagination

>it's not a legends game
>story history blah blah
>NOT LEGENDS

play the fucking game, want to know what happens 3000 years ago? its fucking told in xy and in za and it's happening NOW.

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mngNJ9b1o

>>723688658
>it's an extremely weird an alien concept
it's a fucking starfish

>>723685834
It's like when a joke isn't funny but then they explain it and you "get" it. it still isn't funny but you "get" the joke. The design still isn't good but you "get" it now and this is enough for autistic redditors

>>723688763
did you know Starfish can live with a mutation that makes them completely square? Some creatures on this planet just feel like they don't belong, and even with newer pokemon, you'll have a pair of keys and they'll put eyes on it because they know they need something to endear it or make you feel like you can relate to it at all, but not with Starmie, just an earie glow and it's vow to fight for you

>>723688763
show me a single star running in 2 legs

I thought this was a ripped model of starmie modded into some other game lol.

>>723688986
one just ran by my house you just missed it

>>723688658
Curiously, Echinoderms like starfish are more closely related to Vertebrates than any other large group of Invertebrates.

>>723684294 (OP)
People think it's funny, so they think it's good. People don't realize funny != good.

>>723684294 (OP)
It's so stupid that it's memeable and people end up liking it due to the memes. So people like it but they like it because they also hate it. It's complicated, blame the current irony culture of liking dumb things because they're dumb.

i hate that you cant talk about this game anywhere without being jumped by normies. hell, even /vp/ isn't safe from these people.

>>723686620
>>723687382
I like this one. Make it so Starmie's psychic power has extended to the furthest reaches of space, connecting with an extraterrestrial mind, giving it the look of a 'Mothership'. For that time, it would become part of a plurality, being considered not a star'you', nor a star'me', but a star'we'.
Add to the design by enlarging the gem on top facing the sky and having some kind of visible 'signal' coming out the top. You could additionally add a hole on the bottom for Staryou to fly out of.

>>723684294 (OP)
He's the meme of this week

>>723688873
now that I think about it, how many Pokemon don't have eyes? It might be the only one or one of a handful

>>723685975
Yeah pretty much the it's so ridiculous that it loops back to being endearing

>>723686620
Staryu is a star, Starmie is two stars, so Mega Starmie is countless stars stacked on top of each other. It moves like a serpent and swims by spinning its segments like propellers. Also it fires frickin laser beams and every segment lights up from tail to head as it charges the laser. GF will never design something as good as this shit I thought of in like 5 seconds.

Oh yeah and it can use its psychic powers to fling segments like ninja stars and they return to the main body, also it can dodge attacks by opening a gap between star segments. (I stole this from Monsoon from MGR)

>>723686620
>I can’t draw anything near the level of this complex design, so I’ll just post some random shit the AI made, as if anyone gives a fuck
AI worshippers are literally the most useless people on the planet

>>723689834
I do love how pathetic they are. To me, I find some entertainment in it.

>>723688536
I always wondered why it was one of the only Pokemon that just grunted instead of saying its name, I guess that explains it.

>>723684807
Im glad meaning fags are being called out. Mega starmie isn't funny to me because pokemon has had so many wet fart joke designs these days, the sharp fart isn't funny to me either.

Pokemon has Irony poisoning.

>>723684294 (OP)
It's goofy, like it was made for memes, and not to be taken seriously at all.

>>723688104
Roselia really got the royal treatment.

>>723690508
Ironic that the one on the left says "Digimon much?" because the one on the right actually does look like a Digimon. I don't know what it's called, but I've been seeing this webm all over /v/.

>>723684904
being based on something doesn't make it look good

>>723690724
Alright, I did some digging. Turns out it's called Leviamon and it's usually much larger.

>>723684904
>It has a reason, therefore its good
What if the reason is wrong? Yes it has a concept, but its shit nonetheless

NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S BASED ON TRASH, THAT MEANS IT'S GOOD!

>>723684294 (OP)
I'll be honest. Since gen 1 I never even spared Starmie a glance. But if I can have this ugly fucking pikaman 2, I'd probably raise one.

>>723689112
A cute

>>723690724
Thats the less digimonish ultimate in the entire franchise tho

>>723684294 (OP)
Look at how they massacred my boy.

>>723685834
There's a trend to say something is good because it's a reference to something.
As if it cannot be a joke and also bad.

>>723690508
Left looks like a Unova legendary, right could pass as a scrapped Kantomon.

>>723690724
Pokemon devs kicking themselves over not thinking of this design first.
They'd put it in gen 9 as a Paradox form of Feraligatr and call it Iron Jawgulis or something.

>>723685834
for whatever reason it's very common for pokemon fans to go
>no, no, you don't get it
>klefki is ACTUALLY a set of keys
>so it's a good design
like people don't immediately understand 90% of pokemon design concepts

>>723684807
If a design can be effortlessly memed, yielding OC, you can't really argue that it was ever a bad design.
The Frigo cheese man was mocked for looking retarded and no one thinks its a good design even after people pointed out he looks like a cheese stick mascot.

>>723687909
>>723688102
Magnezone is a fine design, probably the only way they could include a next step without just making it more Magnemites, while also making it look powerful.

From a design standpoint it's better than "Holy fucking over designed" Electivire or cringe clown, or "Tangala but fucking fat"

>>723688873
Echinoderms were a lot more Chordate like in their earlier fossil record. Basically worms or even fish like creatures with calcium "skeletons".

Something went very very wrong mutation wise where they started spawning extra bodies attached to a single "head" and it just worked.

>>723690508
Left is a space Godzilla reference right?

>>723684294 (OP)
Why would anyone hate it? It's pretty funny. Pokemon jumped the shark a long time ago in term of designs with all the mega evolution and regional nonsense. Might as well do something really funny with it.

>>723684294 (OP)
Some people hate it because they think it's lazy and dumb looking. Some people like it specifically because they think the goofiness of it is funny.

>>723694060
where is the left animation from?

>>723689403
Not everything is wrapped in layers of irony, someone can like something because they think it looks funny. You're so deep into the irony culture despite acting like you're not that you don't even realize it.

>>723684294 (OP)
>Why do people hate Mega Starmie?
because it's retarded, lazy and looks like shit
>Why do people like Mega Starmie?
they're pokemon adults overdosing on copium and contrarans

>>723695153
>Regionals jumped the shark
Speciation is a concept that should have always existed though, especially since Monster Ranchers already did it with breeding traits.

>>723687810
Starfags eating good this year

ITS A REFERENCE THEREFORE IT IS GOOD!!!!!!!!
BILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE!

>>723695738
im sorry you lost all the joy in your sad, miserable life

>>723689112
my first thought was sahaquiel desu

people who bought this are a detriment to gaming as a whole
hope you're happy

>>723684904
>when a retard tries to sound smart
Classic /v/

>>723696053
im having fun :)

It's literally just normal starmie except turned into a rubber suit with a person inside.
I will admit it's so shit it's kinda funny but I feel bad for people who actually like starmie and looked forward to it getting an upgrade.
At this point I don't even want a mega flygon anymore lol.

>>723684294 (OP)
Goofy designs are great. People take things too seriously nowadays.

>>723694009
I'm doubtful Paradox forms will be returning, I think they'll be a one time gimmick like Gigantamax. They seem to have settled on Mega as a recurring evolution mechanic.

>>723694578
Pokefaggots can meme whatever they want it doesn't automatically make a shit design good. The thing is ZA has NOTHING else going for it so might as well squeeze out some low quality memes.

I liked that mega idea where it's baisically current Mega Starmie, but the front star is gold and the entire thing is turned 120 degrees, so it's like a shooting star.

>>723696204
The fact that it didn't change much is part of why it's good, so many mega evolutions are shit because they take a great design and ruined it with newfangled bullshit, like Mega Charizard. So Mega Starmie just being the same classic Starmie but a little bit longer is great

>>723687783
That would be Nidoking.

>>723696523
the online battles are actually fun and engaging, I'm surprised they didn't focus on it more in the directs for it

>>723696682
Both are.

>>723688215
>Honchkrow
>not Mamoswine
Faggot

>>723696840
Mamoswine looks fucking dumb.
In fact, the whole line is shit. Fuck you.

>>723696370
wouldnt be that bad if everything else surrounding it wasnt hot liquid cado shart

>>723696889
YOU LOOKING FUCKING DUMB BUT I GUESS THAT MATCHES YOUR SHIT TASTE FAGGOT. NEVER INSULT MAMOSWINE AGAIN

>>723696950
Kekaroo, get better taste, my man.

>>723697010
I'm not your man, freak.

this is about as good as a starmie mega evolution could get. retards just dont know what they want.

>>723696632
Mega Charizard is a template for what megas should be though - the base pokemon but more extreme. Take the defining features and make them more pronounced. Some megas are obviously more succesfull at it then others.
If you don't change the design at all why add it in the first place. The other way around too, if you change the design completely and miss the features that made the base design endearing, what is even the point?
Somehow Mega Starmie hits both of these extremes at the same time. It's the exact same but it's also a dude in rubber suit instead of a crystal starfish.

>>723696921
Except the game itself has been very well received, people assume every Pokemon is going to be shit because GF has been botching the mainline ones for years but Arceus was quite highly regarded so they had the Arceus team throw a hail mary after S/V's negative reception and it paid off. I know that's hard to accept because people thought Pokemon was over after S/V was the worst game ever made, but that's reality for you.

>>723686620
I honestly can't, Starmie just isn't a great choice for a mega because its such a simple, "complete" design that short of going "MORE SPIKES" or some meme shit like the actual one I can't think up a good one. You could go in a totally new direction like the Magneton-Magnezone evolution I guess. If they wanted to do a gen 1 water type mega, it would have been nice to finally give Golduck a psychic-type, or give Tentacruel some love.

>>723697120
I assume these mega evos only happen during fights in which case they can be gimmicky depending on the Pokémon. This one is fine. If people want a starmie evolution which is just a different colour and more legs that should be part of a normal evo line.

>>723686620
assembly required