Thread 723702238

ITT: Vidya franchises with no bad games

>>723702238 (OP)
Absolutely based pick, I would have posted the same

>>723702238 (OP)
Serious Sam: The Random Encounter
Try again.

>>723702424
Not made by CroTeam, in fact none of the Indie shit count imo

>>723702238 (OP)
I’ve tried to enjoy these games, but every time I do I just get bored. The giant waves of enemies sounds fun until you just end up circle strafing while holding left click the whole time

>>723702863
play on serious difficulty

>>723702374
Huntdown the Freeman.
Try again.

>>723702238 (OP)
serious sam is the most mediocre fps series I've ever played
it lacks any kind of hook in comparison to doom or quake or buildo games
just a perfectly unremarkable sequence of fps games

all serious sam games are bad
they're repetitive and boring and humor is cringe tier
>b-but it like them
sure but that's because you're a fucking retard

>>723704454
SSTFE TSE and 2 have an appeal even if I don't get them. It's amazing to me how they fucked up that appeal with SS3 by reskinning their failed Doom4 pitch. After which, instead of learning anything, doubled down on their failures and made a shittier game called SS4.

>>723704348
>non-canon FAN GAME
Doesn't count. But Half-Life 1 & 2 did both get a lot of weird console ports, maybe at least one of them was bad.

Also nobody played Decay which kind of makes it a bad entry in the franchise.

>>723702797
>It's not a part of the franchise because it just isn't, ok?!
Alright then. Picrel.

Serious Sam 2 was absolute shit, fuck you and your favorite youtuber saying otherwise.

>>723704454
>>723704509
Get some friends.

TimeSplitters

>>723704752
if you need friends for a game to be fun, it's not good

>>723704454
>>723704509
Get a friend to play it in co-op, then you'll understand why It's goated.

>>723704705
>>723702863
Instead of talking shit show me a franchise with no bad games.

>>723705064
see >>723704823

Anon... literally all but the main series are awful... it's famous for this...

>>723702238 (OP)
Doom

>>723702238 (OP)
why does this franchise refuse to make a sequel to Serious Sam 2 or a sequel that replaces Serious Sam 2

>>723707220
need high budget and imagination to portray alien worlds

>>723707220
Because it's more profitable that Sam never beats Mental and he's stuck in a time travelling loop that whenever he gets the mission done, it's never enough to prevent Mental from literally MOONING the Earth. If they would make a conclusion to Sam's adventures, that would mean they either have to come up with a new game that's not Serious Sam or Talo Principle or close the studio's doors.

>>723702238 (OP)
Huh, first time I see the back leg in this

>>723709248
They can make Sam travel through different planets again without having Mental as the final boss though

>>723709248
>close the studio's doors.
I thought they already did after Serious Sam 4 flopped.

>>723709530
Nah they still in the black i think.

>>723709530
Sam 4 is their best selling Sam game IIRC.

>>723709745
>>723709685
that sucks
any company that thinks planet badass is a good subtitle deserves death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iok7lSET91Q
doesn't matter if they removed it

>>723704454
>>723704509
this, but doom before eternal

>>723709829
Sam 4 is a good game with horrible optimization.

>>723709530
It was the opposite. SS4 was the game that generated the most revenue, and they also had Talos Principle after SS3, which established a new fan base. It was because of this “success” that Croteam abandoned engine development and decided to focus on their franchises like a regular dev. The problem is that they decided to adopt Unreal Engine 5.

>>723709917
That's an even bigger shame that they abandoned Serious Engine, It was like...their thing, the very thing that put them on the board of recognition.

>>723702238 (OP)
2 was bad and made for consoles.
3 had too much hitscan and the level designs sucked.

>>723709248
>or close the studio's doors.
I wonder if they ever found a proper replacement for the software engineer that left Croteam in favor of Google, and now Roblox.

>>723710682
I fucking hope so because I want them to learn to count to 3 unline valve (yes there's 4 serious sams but those are all prequels) I want to see a proper ending to Sam's quest.

>>723709917
>It was because of this “success” that Croteam abandoned engine development
Their engine wizard left the studio to work for Google. That's why.

is SS4 worth playing? I played Siberian Mayhem first because i've heard it's better

>>723711018
Highest highs and lowest lows.
If you're fan of the franchise than sure, it's extremely fun when it works.

>>723711539
I forgot to mention I'm trans btw

>>723711539
Lower lows than the starting two levels of SS3?

>>723711018
It has the best weapons and enemies in the series and some of the best battles, so yeah.

>>723711625
It does has stinkers in its levels but gameplay wise it starts really fast unlike SS3 that drags on for the first 2 hours.

>>723702238 (OP)
Kirby, donkey Kong too.

the venn diagram for tards who hate ss and tards who hate slaughtermaps in doom is a perfect circle

>>723711018
It runs significantly worse and is like twice as long, but it's still fun.

>>723712875
I like Sam, but I don't care for slaughtermaps. Doom's combat isn't designed around switching weapons often, so those fights just turn into spamming rockets or BFG shots into a crowd while denying movement with enemies.

>>723712875
I like SS but hate slaughtermaps because Doom simply isn't made for such combat, infighting makes the entire ordeal pointless and the enemies are better when they work off each other rather than being a huge blob you spam BFG at

>>723713132
>>723713421
Same, sam having slower movement also means you don't have to box players in cramped rooms to stop them from circlestrafing monster blobs and maybe revenant/cybie snipers at 30km/hr
Archvile spam can sometimes fix this but that gets old

>>723704639
>anon forgot about 3

>>723713132
>>723713421
>>723714046
Yup. Sam isn't Doom, and that's a good thing!

>>723702238 (OP)
>boomer shooter "expert" youtuber gets filtered by pure arcade game design
fake boomer bitch

>>723714234
Civvie is a fag.

>>723710114
>they abandoned
they had to because the engine guy went on to work at Google on Stadia, lmao at least the pay is good I guess

>>723714046
Archviles are very annoying in large crowds because they can target you through monsters.

Doom doesn't really have "bad" games only average ones at worst same with Quake

I fucking hate game design fags.
>hurr durr good FPS is when you enter room and fight 3 guys and then enter room and fight 4 guys and then you look for a key
fuck off I want to go in an open field and fight 100 kleers SUCK MY DICK NIGGERS

>>723714604
LEVEL design not GAME design FUCK

>>723714604
Sam almost never spawns that many Kleers at once.

>>723714676
Kleer alley, there's one place in TSE (at least one), there is that part of SS4 where you reacquire Death Ray in Tunguska.

>>723714767
Yeah, one instance per game.

>>723714802
It was just an example.

>>723714861
And despite making jokes about it, the majority of every Sam game is finding keys or pushing buttons to open up another area.

I don't understand why /v/ dislikes Serious Sam and Painkiller. They are braindead yes but there is a niche for brainless games as Vampire Survivors and it's many clones proved. I wanna fuck a harpy.

>>723715186
Painkiller is brain dead, Serious Sam on Serious difficulty actually requires some level of strategy and weapon prioritisation

>>723702238 (OP)
Neat little fact about Serious Sam!
The leaping soundbite used for the Kleers can also be heard in Michael Jackson’s The Way You Make Me Feel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzZ_urpj4As
You can hear it right after his signature “HOO!” just before the actual song starts.

>>723714162
Nu-huh, it wasn't made by a Bugbear, so it doesn't count. Perfect franchise.

>>723715186
Wym /v/ always had a soft spot for serious sam it's just a bunch of tryhards trying to get gamer points itt

>>723702238 (OP)
Serious Sam 4 was such a hot mess under the hood that it caused Croteam to abandon their in-house engine in favor for Unreal Engine slop.

>>723707220
They tried to remake it under the name "The Third Encounter" with Serious Engine 3.4, but they said fuck it and made The Talos Principle instead.

>>723716198
Actually it was canned just so croteam could have more people on serious sam 4's development. The third encounter started AFTER the talos principle finished development.

SS2 had the most map variety and I wish Croteam went back to this style instead of generic milsim maps but with monsters

>>723702238 (OP)
Is Fusion a terrible way to play the trilogy(TFE, TSE, BFE)

>>723717519
It's alright, I guess. BFE in Fusion has a lot of changes which might be for the better. The enemies which previously were immune to bullets now take 50% damage, most infinite rocket/C4 crates are removed, shotgun is better, assault rifle and pistol are 100% accurate without ADS, assault rifle magazine capacity is twice larger, a particular annoying enemy has basically 1 HP. I kinda prefer original due to nostalgic reasons, also because infinite rocket crates owned.

>>723702238 (OP)
>128 hacked server with enemy spawns per player chaos
>can never go back
strange kind of pain. also ss4 was pretty damn dogshit at release and now is still barely not shit

>>723702238 (OP)
It barely counts, but the GBA game was awful

>>723715186
i dont believe /v/ actually hates ss, its just the usual influx of newfags trying to get gamer cred by shitting on it.

>>723720728
for gba, wasnt anywhere the worst thing to be released.

>>723711625
Absolutely.

>>723720865
Doom ports and the Duke Nukem game shit all over it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhgLxtsKT0

I guess it's better than the GBA version of MoH Underground

>>723721016
>GBA MoH
why did you have to remind me of that. goddamn

Anyone played this one for consoles? I completed the first 2 levels and it's pretty fun so far

>>723721390
you emulating it with the mouse fix or on actual consoles??

>>723721525
I emulate it with a controller
I didn't know there was a mouse fix

>>723721653
Either way, really fun game. I would say most certainly worth playing for any ss fan

We were fucking robbed. I genuely expect this would have had Siberian Mayhem level of quality.

>>723721390
I did and I loved it. It actually kind of feels like an actual third encounter, or at the very least a second and a half encounter, which kind of makes sense because apparently it was being developed at the same time the second encounter was. I think it did a lot right. I liked the unlocks, the combo system, and some of the new alternative ammo (though some are useless or are just way too situational like the grenade launcher ones). Some of the levels are just downright and probably the most artistic in the series, especially the Atlantis ones. Definitely worth a playthrough if you like SS.

Apparently I played serious sam, completely forgot, its forgettable

>>723721390
I played it when it was released for gamecube back in the day and it was pretty solid. What I forgot is, does it use the extra lives system from the xbox version of the first and second encounter?

>>723702238 (OP)
Styx
Yes, even of orcs and men is good

>>723722857
It doesn't have lives iirc. You respawn back to the last checkpoint and you lose score.

>>723720965
I know the Sam games make you lose your weapons at certain intervals but this one is the worst.

>>723702424
But the random encounter is a fun little game.

>>723709831
I will rape you

>>723722506
Also to add on for people who aren't aware - don't bother with the PS2 version, it's capped at 30fps, the visuals are worse, and it was pretty much an afterthought. I think it had a couple extra multiplayer maps but that was it. The engine was designed for the GameCube.

>>723702797
All you had to say was "series". Franchise absolutely covers every indie game.

>>723702238 (OP)
the witch enemy in 3 was super annoying

Serious Sam 3 was too serious which doesn't work well in a game where a soldier somehow walks around in casual t-shirt and sneakers while fighting beheaded corpses

>>723702374
Episode 1

>>723720728
That one at least had the greatest weapon in the entire series.
https://serioussam.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Strike

I like serious sam.

>>723724990
Looking back, cursing and setting aside, it wasn't actually any less silly than TFE.
Just like in TFE, most of the funny shit was limited to secrets with pretty much the only overly wacky thing happening in the "story" itself being Sam calling Mental/his daughter at the end.

>>723702238 (OP)
Hitman
Even Absolution wasn't bad honestly

if you load from a save and not bother with 2's life system and can get past the cheesy shit, the gameplay of 2 is just as fun TFE and TSE imo

>>723727728
unfortunately I can't get past the clown vomit that is SS2's visuals

>>723724041
hell yeah

>>723711018
4's skill tree is an absolutely fucking meme, you essentially need to spec for dual wielding or you will be getting shit on the entire game
the encounters are way less tight in a series known for tight encounters
Siberian Mayhem beats the absolute shit out of it in understanding why the games were ever fun to begin with
also consumables were a fucking MISTAKE

gran turismo

>>723702238 (OP)
Bump

>>723702238 (OP)
Call of Duty

>>723727907
>>723727728
I'm surprised that nobody made some sort of visual overhaul for SS2

>>723732670
I think there's one mod that changes a lot of the enemies to be TFE/TSE ones, but that still has SS2's insane colorful contrast and brightness that hurts my eyes.

>>723702238 (OP)
I think you meant no good games. Serious Sam was the definition of bargain bin shovelware that was always on the shelf, jewel case only, next to shit like this.

>>723733239
retard