Thread 723717156

Official Diablo 2 Full Sets Power Rankings

1. Tal Rasha's Wrappings
2. Immortal King
3. Griswold's Legacy
4. Natalya's Odium
(POWER GAP)
5.Mavina's Battle Hymn
6. Trang-Oul's Avatar
7. Aldur's Watchtower

people only really used tal rasha and immortal king. few poison memers used trang-oul and only pvp fags used griswold for silly FoH builds since it has so many sockets for rainbow facets

>>723717156 (OP)
As much as I love D2, I can't deny how shit the actual end-game variety is. Also runewords were a mistake.

>>723717156 (OP)
Didn't know there was a Diablo 2 WEG

Amazon looking good.

>>723717375
trang ouls was decent back before poison was nerfed, but it was still handily beat out by having other more effective uniques instead

>>723717156 (OP)
All these sets except Tal Rasha are too weak by the time you are able to farm up all the pieces
And Tal Rasha is only like a parity thing, being roughly equal to gear you probably have built up by the time you got the whole set, most notably by the time you found Guardianship

>>723717156 (OP)
>he still uses sets
>he can't craft and enhance items in vanilla

Sets and majority of uniqures made pointless thanks to the rertarded runewords
I hate runewords

It annoyed me that items and runewords were (LADDER ONLY). I don't wanna have a running clock in the background. I'm a boomer I just wanna chill.

>>723717156 (OP)
Fucking hell those faces, that's so much ugly.

It's too bad this game isn't cracked, I really don't want to give any money to blizzard.

>>723718759
Annoying that it costs like €60 for a 20 year old game.

For me it's Buriza

>>723719083
>tfw Burrito Cannon and Windforce were some of the apex weapons of 1.09 (or .10?) and bowazon was the end-all-kill-all build mowing down everything and i was frustrated i couldnt keep up whenever a bowazon joined the room

>>723719739
Was a great feel though, multiple arrow and everyone turned into ice cubes and shattered.

Trang ouls was so cool as a child 20 years ago
Why is it so bad now?

>>723720531
I is really cool visually. But your casting speed slows down alot as floaty vampire. Many of the set bonuses are completely "wasted item stats". Level 3 Fire Mastery and Level 10 Meteor etc is completely useless past Normal difficulty.

>>723720531
it's find for mid game
thing is, there are items in midgame that run just as good without the hassle of fishing for set items
and you might end up getting something better in the time it takes you to get the whole set

>>723717156 (OP)
Unironically Sigons is the best set

Now is it pronounced s-ih-gon's, or s-eye-gon's?

>>723719739
>He didn't have an 'Ith' bow
>He used Buriza as a weapon instead of having a Buriza armor
Ngmi man.

1.09 was wild with how widespread the bugged items were before 1.10 and the rust storm(s) before it.

Is there anything realistically stopping me from ignoring runewords and farming sets for fun? I don't play ladder, just casual solo playthroughs

>>723721931
sigh ghons

>>723717156 (OP)
why are they so ugly?

>>723722032
I mean, kinda? Things like Lore, Stealth, Spirit are just so absurdly good for how easy it is to get these things you simply cannot ignore them

>stuck at early hell with assassin
Do i just fuck it and swap to the budget PS Sin early, or i'm gonna fuck myself even harder?

>>723722032
Unless you're using some really powerful classes/specs, you won't be able to farm shit. The Diablo 2 is not a balanced game.

>>723722219
Every time I try to play pure meleesin my hopes and dreams get crushed and stomped into the ground.
Eventually I gave up and got my dose of dual claws power fantasy with berserker in Torchlight 2.

>>723722032
Just play actual offline and use /players 8 and you might drop something. But you do need a powerful build for that.

The game is balanced around trade and you'll realistically never see any combination of high runes that lets you make a runeword. It's not a very good single player experience past just slogging through the game one from normal to hell Diablo or Baal. Farming is miserable if you're not a sorc who can teleport around AND deal with immunes, unless you do some specific farm your build is designed around that doesn't require teleporting, like Javazon for cows or something or maybe a FoHadin for CS now that they changed stuff about how Holy Bolt works.

>>723720531
Because you learned what breakpoints are

>>723717156 (OP)
>pic
where's the paladin?

>>723717156 (OP)
People really play the trannified version huh
I stopped watching mrllama because he only plays diablo 2 poz edition

also diablo 2 is such a slogfest carried hard by it's amazing first act. every character is bound by the demants of AoE builds otherwise it's mind numbingly slow to play
even barb just takes more time to get to shout whereas sorc immediately has nova

As a kid, first time getting this for your Pala or Barb was a certified "FUCK YEAH" experience.

>>723722032
You'll get gaped in Hell since it is balanced for end game uniques and runewords. Sets don't really keep up especially in 8 party lobbies.

>>723719083
i remember that item from dota 1

>>723722032
If you get lucky. You need some good gear for Hell. While rune words you can slap a Smoke, Ancients Pledge/Rhyme, amd Insight to increase your survivability. If you get a Duriel's Shell and Rockstopper that would be amazing, but that has a lower chance of dropping than getting the runes for the above rune words.

>>723723696
Good gear alone is not enough, you're still only allowed to use specific specs if you want to play on hell without the broken items.

>>723719083
What the fuck is that toothpick?

>>723722032
Sadly, just doing act 1 Countess runs like 30 times each on normal-nightmare-hell on your playthroughs will make your journey so much easier.

She drops like every rune from "El" to "Gul" which is enough for some very strong stuff. Runewords are like everything and easier to find than most set items and uniques. If you play online you can trade the runes for any item in the game anyways.

>>723724432
I didn't know missile weapons could be ethereal. Goddamn what a cannon!

>>723717156 (OP)
>only the sorceress looks nice

I'm still having a great time wondering how much longer this can last
I ran into poison immunes finally but lower res instantly erased that
I'm thinking even by the time I get to Hell this will still be great

If only I could find a wand base to make White already...

>>723721798
This

>>723721798
It kinda is. You can put it on at level fucking 6 and good enough to take your like half-way through nighmare to like lvl 50.

>>723717156 (OP)
For me, it's The Disciple.

>>723717156 (OP)
is that discount kratos

>>723727227
It's pretty nutty. Good life leech, increased attack speed, attack rating per level, you can slap that set on almost anything and it'll carry. You'll also have a decent baseline resist of at least 30%.

>>723717506
anything looks good when sat next to the assassin

>Diablo 2 in the 2000s
>Main trading currency was Stone of Jordan
>"How much u want for it mate?
>"3x SoJ"

I never found a fucking Stone of Jordan ever; and I played 7x chars to level 90 or so.

How did everyone else do it? Some glitch? dupe? gambling? gimmick/trick?

>>723728187
andy runs

>>723728187
Sojs were duped so much during the original release you could easily get them by trading. I've never had a legit soj drop in my entire life.

>socket all my stuff with topaz for that +MF
>find a super rare loot
>create a private room with password and dump it on the ground
>QUICKLY log out and log back in as mule character praying to God that the room hasn't expired yet
Blizz new how to do it. Even simple inventory management was a thrill! Thems was the days.

>>723727338
I've never ever seen anyone in all my years of playing complete this set. Anyone know why?

>>723728187
Duping. The whole thing about Diablo clone spawning with SoJs sold to merchants is related to it.

For me it was 2x occu SoJ though

>>723729123
>some asshole assassin who's somehow only specced into specifically into BoS and MS ran around your entire town in the 15 seconds it took for you to relog as a mule and already stole all your shit

>>723717156 (OP)
who cares they are ugly as sin
only the necromancer is well served ith this disgusting art style and character modeling

>>723722032
Okay let me rephrase I guess - can I as a casual solo offline only player hope to get some of the game's sets and generally play the game as if it's an earlier version that didn't have runewords?
I did not experience early Diablo because my mom would have never allowed me to have a game with that name lol so I wasn't there on release

>>723727518
its dave bautista

>>723729631
You already got your fucking answer, you just don't like it and want a different answer.

>>723717156 (OP)
That Paladin model is just all kinds of offensive

>>723729386
>who cares they are ugly as sin

>>723728187
Pretty sure 95% of SoJs were duped. I never got any in my original playthroughs as a kid, but when Resurrected came out I spent a week farming Andy and got 2x to drop. Should've bought a lottery ticket in retrospect.

>>723721798
+1. Never bothered grinding end game sets, usually I ended up owning 1-2 pieces and rest dropped from free itemz games. Sigon on other hand is reasonably obtainable on your own.

>>723728187
Gambling at vendors is underrated. Just sell every item you don't want.

Gamble 100x rings from the vendor and you'll for sure get some usable rares and maybe 1-2 uniques.

Yeah just search "diablo 2 looter" on youtube, he has solo self-found hardcore playthroughs with ridiculous handicaps and specs.

He has plenty of no runewords-videos. I sometimes watch one when im trying to sleep.

>>723719083
You now remember buriza armor.

>>723729123
Kek I did that too, then one time
>"Server does not exist"

>>723729282
That wasn't actually a thing was it?

>>723731958
Watching this guy basically taught me the answer to D2 is to run countess

>stupidest most absurd build/limitations possible?
>not even a single problem after 300 countess runs!

>>723728187
actually the same. I didnt play online during og 2000 release, but I guess it was all remains of some og dupe madness spree

>>723729386
it sucks how lazy ppl are today. on release eveyrbody was bragging how they gonna fix the characters left and right. and then nobody did jackshit, even when there are working mods now

>Play on toaster computer like everyone else back in the day, 8 player game.
>Fucking Summon Necro shows up with 40 skeletons and 21 revived monsters, golem, mercenary, starts raining curses and corpse explosions everywhere

FPS just slowed to a crawl lol

Am i retarded, or project diablo 2 looks weird without a CRT filter? Like it's missing something

>>723734472
>Parents bought an old computer that was already outdated by the time I installed the game
>Every time a boss dies and drops loot, the game would lag
>Never got any good drops since other players got them first

Felt bad man.

>>723732852
>Is there anything realistically stopping me from ignoring runewords
So basically the answer is decisive "not possible".

>>723736152
Plenty of people have done rare items only runs
They trade in the runes they get for good rates like skill/res circlets and stuff
It is doable

>>723736337
You absolutely can but he's a noob and it's actually a pretty miserable experience if you go in expecting anything like a modern lootclicker game like this. Stuff like "oh okay half the mobs in this act are just immune to my main damage, what do I do now" isn't a thing anymore, but it is here. Going in blind this game is probably ass.

>>723725983
I got stuck in Maggot Lair. Had to get my brother to level up a barb so thag he could help me through (LAN)

>>723736337
>trade
You know, the more time passes the more I realize how dumb I was for loving this game more than anything else back then when I had no idea what I'm doing, and playing Resurrected just re-confirmed it. Even fucking D3 did some loot hunting aspects better. Sure D2 is a much much better game overall, but as a single-player game to farm loot to use this loot to kill enemies better to farm loot better it kinda sucks.

>>723736337
>trade

Why isn't there a porn version of Diablo

>Multiple shot
>Lightning enchanted
>Teleportation

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Non-ladder is hell

Even at 300MF I'm getting low level sets and uniques

>>723717156 (OP)
Item sets are a terrible itemization mechanic, and poe was right to get rid of that shit entirely.
This makes retards at blizzards not understanding Diablo 2 at all making item sets the staple of their future Diablo games especially funny.

>>723738219
Look up which zones have the most high level monsters. Only lvl 85 zones can drop like big ones I think.

https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Area_Level

>>723736337
What if I'm SSF?

>>723738692
Terror Zones turn most areas into level 85 ones.

He's not getting shit because he's stuck at players 1, quite frankly Blizzard is retarded for not including /players option for non-ladder.

>>723718446
if you were Tyrael what would you have said to Marius?
>MARIUS YOU FUCKING RETARD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE YOU STUPID NIGGER

>>723737093
>immune to magic
AHHHHHGGHHHHGHHHHHGRRRRGHGH

>>723738648
>item sets bad
>runewords bad
>slowly click single target combat bad
>fast click to clear the whole screen combat bad
>teleport bad
>no teleport bad
>low drop rates bad
>high drop rates bad
>numbers don't go big bad
>numbers get too big bad
>farming a single mob for eternity bad
>farming anything without any thought bad
The genre is just not that good after all.

>>723739534
Wrong
They're good
Stop believing brainlet takes

>>723736596
maggot lair is pain

Pluggy doesn't updog my resolution and i don't want to play the demake. Also being able to party up your ladder makes build fucking retarded anyways since they never take into consideration the actual leveling

>>723738974
Oh yeah thats a thing. It's so stupid. There really should be a switch you can flick in your own games in multiplayer

I heard players 3 is like the sweetspot if u soloing. If you play a busted spec with big gear you might as well players 8 though.

>>723717156 (OP)
Holy shit look at that pair of troons and those washed up boomers, what kind of tasteless retard would play a game like this lmao

>>723741739
For the gameplay?

>>723739592
Item sets are objectively terrible mechanic because they effectively eliminate multiple gear slots in a game about itemization. Why pick different items, when you can just get a prepackaged shit for most of your slots? And after you have that, it discourages upgrades for each separate slot, due to them resulting in losing set benefits.

>>723743116
>Why pick different items
Because you don't have the set item yet?
Because a better version of this item dropped?
Because you might only need a few set bonuses, not all of them?
Because you might want a different set?
Because you might not need the set at all?

>>723743116
Utterly wrong
which is proven already by multiple posts in this thread
>>723717375
>>723717525
>>723717813

>>723742245
>gameplay
>>723739534

>>723717156 (OP)
>3. Griswold's Legacy

>>723743713
Jewel slots my guy

>>723723142
My main goal as a kid was always to get to hell so the cool looking plate armor chest pieces and horned helmets started dropping
even if it had bad stats, if I got to wear full cool plate armor I put it on asap

I played everquest the same way where I primarily used really bad equipment at lvl 30 because it looked cool so stuff like bronze claws over a lammy or the gnoll whip over some regular short sword with amazing stats

>>723744017
How do people use this? Just put facets in every slot?

>>723747292
You can improve good weapons and armor with sockets ALOT with runes/+40% enhanced damage jewels or perfect gems

Like just Eth rune on a weapon is -25% target total defense, which is is pretty damn big.

>>723747292
>facets
>he doesn't know about Ruby Jewel of Fervors

>choose to play D2 for this year's halloween
>suddenly D2 threads everywhere on /v/ every day
Huh?

>>723719083
>bows

>>723750687
mooo mooo mooooo

>>723717156 (OP)
Did people actually care about completing and using these sets or did rune words completely destroy them?

>>723751674
The most high-end runewords are ridiculously powerful, but also expensive and hard to get. Tal Rasha and Immortal King are very good and that hard to get. They also look baller

>>723749409
been like this for a few months

alright anons maybe you can help
i already have a zealadin and a bonemancer to hell
what should my next character be: meteorb sorc, bowazon or any flavor of barb
i've got some decent gear for each

>>723754041
Go for amazon and gl.

>>723754250
yeah i know it's gonna be rough, but hopefully i'll find something to make a javazon along the way

>>723754816
Sorceress is the easiest to magic farm grind bosses with 0 gear. Frozen orb + Hydra is very solid, can kill everything in hell.

>>723754994
probably a good idea
got myself a decent monarch spirit i can take off the necro, magefist, shako and an occu for a decent head start
and i just need a vex to make a hoto