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Anonymous No.723743454 [Report] >>723743546 >>723743631 >>723746551 >>723748081 >>723748302 >>723750829 >>723758824 >>723762409 >>723765653 >>723766854 >>723767391
Is it just a meme?
Anonymous No.723743546 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
Marriage and children? I think it's the biggest meme ever created.
Anonymous No.723743631 [Report] >>723749263
>>723743454 (OP)
Seeing as there is next to no 8k content available, yeah I would say it is a meme.
Anonymous No.723743718 [Report]
8k kinda is, but i'm not sure this study is conclusive based on methodology.
>https://www.techhive.com/article/578376/8k-vs-4k-tvs-most-consumers-cannot-tell-the-difference.html
Anonymous No.723745592 [Report] >>723745673 >>723748265 >>723751390
4k is a scam.
Anonymous No.723745673 [Report] >>723745863
>>723745592
Whatever makes you sleep at night, poorfag
Anonymous No.723745863 [Report] >>723746254 >>723746507 >>723746586 >>723747301 >>723747991 >>723748081 >>723748207 >>723748695 >>723750079 >>723750492 >>723750631 >>723751390 >>723765568
>>723745673
4k has been available to the average person for over a decade and still nobody uses it.
No streaming services delivers high enough bit rate to be 4k
No game developer targets 4k performance
Nobody owns a 4k screen (steam hardware survey)
Consoles don't run games at 4k

The reality is 4k is just marketing buzzwords to consumers and exists solely for the domain of cinema.
Anonymous No.723746254 [Report] >>723746540 >>723748170
>>723745863
>4k has been available to the average person for over a decade and still nobody uses it.
You'd be surprised how poor and technologically illiterate the average person is
>No streaming services delivers high enough bit rate to be 4k
Because they don't care about giving a good service, only how much shit they can get away with and still earn money. I host my own jellyfin library with exclusively the highest bit rate media I can find
>No game developer targets 4k performance
Devs don't target a specific resolution either
>Nobody owns a 4k screen (steam hardware survey)
Refer to point 1
>Consoles don't run games at 4k
As above
>The reality is 4k is just marketing buzzwords to consumers and exists solely for the domain of cinema.
Only if you're poor, again
Anonymous No.723746507 [Report] >>723750492
>>723745863
Seeing art and doujins made in 4k res through a 4k screen is life changing, everything under will forever look fuzzy to you afterwards.
Anonymous No.723746540 [Report] >>723746670
>>723746254
So your rebuttal is agreeing that no real 4k content exists but something something poors? You really are just arguing for the sake of arguing aren't you anon.

>Devs don't target a specific resolution either
They absolutely do to establish what their render budget is.
Anonymous No.723746551 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
no 8k blurays
Anonymous No.723746586 [Report] >>723746731
>>723745863
everything is better in 4k, even text is sharper and clearer
I've been playing games in 4k for more than ten years
Anonymous No.723746670 [Report]
>>723746540
>no real 4k content exists
You can play vidya at 4k though, and UHD blu rays do exist
Anonymous No.723746731 [Report] >>723747967
>>723746586
yes i'm sure blowing up n64 games to 4k looks good to a consoomer.
Anonymous No.723747301 [Report] >>723747693 >>723748370 >>723750732
>>723745863
cope. 4k oled + hdr is mindblowing.
Anonymous No.723747626 [Report] >>723747868
>"4k is a meme"
>why
>"I just bought a 1440p monitor stop saying 4k is better"
Anonymous No.723747693 [Report] >>723747857 >>723750732
>>723747301
>hdr
more like hurrr durrr
Anonymous No.723747857 [Report] >>723747969
>>723747693
Only if you ignore brightness.
Anonymous No.723747868 [Report] >>723748120
>>723747626
it's all down to viewing distance and 4k is a loss in performance and requires you too be way too close to be comfortable
desks fucking suck
Anonymous No.723747967 [Report]
>>723746731
3D ps3 games look good emulated at 4k but anything before that it really doesn't help
unfortunately, the switch emulators died before they implemented any sort of internal resolution upscaling and they just use scaling algorithms so you can't do the same with them
Anonymous No.723747969 [Report] >>723748134
>>723747857
You mean something you can already do AND brighter on lcds or minileds?
Anonymous No.723747991 [Report]
>>723745863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcA-X4IrkE4
Anonymous No.723748081 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
Not really.
>>723745863
All wrong btw.
Anonymous No.723748120 [Report] >>723748442 >>723749860 >>723750157
>>723747868
Don't worry, people who buy 4k TVs are retarded and sit too far away as well :)

https://www.ecoustics.com/articles/optimal-hdtv-size-viewing-distances/
Anonymous No.723748134 [Report]
>>723747969
Extra brightness is pointless if it's not in pursuit of HDR, retard. Otherwise you're just raising the black levels for no reason.
Anonymous No.723748170 [Report] >>723748347
>>723746254
Ive had 4k TVs for years and 4K monitors for work. I game at 120hz 1440p. Being poor is the biggest cope; at least counter his points brownie.
Anonymous No.723748207 [Report] >>723761983
>>723745863
>Nobody owns a 4k screen
Even iPads are using 4k screens now.
Anonymous No.723748253 [Report]
Everyone here had more playing on 480 as a dumb kid then they ever will playing anything on 4/8/16/10000000k.
Anonymous No.723748265 [Report]
>>723745592
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VDTNmHfOE-k
Anonymous No.723748302 [Report] >>723748430
>>723743454 (OP)
Every single question about resolutions can be answered by
>calculate the PPI retard
Anonymous No.723748347 [Report] >>723748413
>>723748170
>120hz 1440p
OLED 4k 240hz less than $1k
but desu I would wait a bit for the new cable tech because they already have to do workarounds to get this much
Anonymous No.723748370 [Report]
>>723747301
oled so good sony abandoned the technology for their high end screens lmao
Anonymous No.723748413 [Report]
>>723748347
Price isn't the issue. I cannot play majority of my games at 4k 240hz.
Anonymous No.723748430 [Report]
>>723748302
You don't need a ppi above 96.
Anonymous No.723748442 [Report] >>723748714 >>723750492
>>723748120
I love the viewing distance cope
did you ever look up how many pixels your phone screen has? for viewing a foot away from your face? its probably more than your pc monitor if you don't have a 4k screen
Anonymous No.723748695 [Report]
>>723745863
they hated him because he told them the truth
Anonymous No.723748714 [Report]
>>723748442
>citing phones
>THE MOST cattle driven buzzword tech arms race on the planet
If apple came out tomorrow and said you all need a 16k screen by friday it would be an essential, can't-live-without-it feature.
Anonymous No.723749263 [Report] >>723749335
>>723743631
>no content
>you just need to slide the resolution up
wut?
Anonymous No.723749335 [Report] >>723749497 >>723749628
>>723749263
people do things other than play video games on their tvs
Anonymous No.723749497 [Report] >>723749978
>>723749335
I doubt pornhub offers 8k content.
Anonymous No.723749609 [Report]
Most people with 4k monitors on 4chan have 32" postage stamps and use DPI scaling like old ladies.
Anonymous No.723749628 [Report]
>>723749335
yeah like watching 4k uhd movies lmao
Anonymous No.723749728 [Report]
Mostly. There's little reason for it to exist for movies because the difference in scanning a 35mm film at 4K vs 8K is, if we're being generous, extremely marginal. Most of the time it's hard to tell the difference, whereas 4K scans were a noticeable step up from 1080p ones. That leaves it as something that pretty much only exists for the much smaller catalogue of films shot on 70mm, or hypothetical future 8K digitally shot films, and I don't think many people will want to be upscaling 95% of what they watch for the sake of the few that benefit. Since gaming is always a secondary concern for the big panel manufacturers whether or not there's any benefit for video games is pretty much academic if there's no screen to play them on.
Anonymous No.723749860 [Report] >>723750115 >>723750134
>>723748120
>27" 1440p- 2.7ft
>32" 4k monitor- 2.1ft
this is legitimately not worth the performance loss
Anonymous No.723749978 [Report]
>>723749497
unironically porn is better with lower res as you'd need less caked on makeup
Anonymous No.723750054 [Report]
physical is back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_js2Denjvow
Anonymous No.723750079 [Report] >>723750492 >>723750819
>>723745863
love my 4k screen
Anonymous No.723750115 [Report]
>>723749860
For me it's
>55" 4k monitor- 3-4ft
Anonymous No.723750134 [Report]
>>723749860
I mean do people really fall for the viewing distance guides?
don't forget they told you that you can't see more than 24 fps too
Anonymous No.723750157 [Report] >>723750275
>>723748120
I'm not sitting 4 feet away from my 65" screen don't be retarded. What sort of maniac arranges their living room like that?
Anonymous No.723750161 [Report] >>723750274
8k makes sense with >65" tv's
you have AI upscaling these days and you can add fidelity to make the images less blurry for those larger tv sizes for home theaters even if you dont have native 8k streaming or something

Im sure theres some people who want 8k for their pc monitors to utilize a future 6090 gpu better.
Anonymous No.723750274 [Report] >>723750382
>>723750161
>utilize a future 6090 gpu better
that's not how gpus work
they know people aren't upgrading their monitors resolution quickly enough so they continually introduce frame killing technologies that only work on newer cards
Anonymous No.723750275 [Report] >>723750529
>>723750157
Then you might as well get a lower resolution screen lmao.
Anonymous No.723750382 [Report]
>>723750274
not every game is a path tracing tech showcase
some games are isometric city builders and there upscaled 8k would be plausibly noticeable upgrade
Anonymous No.723750492 [Report]
>>723745863
It's genuinely a scam pushed by Sony and the TV/movie studios. Like you said, streaming 4k is garbage but they do it anyway and waste all that bandwidth anyway.

>>723746507
>Artist renders porn at 4k
>Low bitrate, blocky as fuck, literally 20 second clip is 500MB

>>723750079
4k is only good for workspace and watching rescans of 35mm/70mm films. Using it for games is some low IQ shit.

>>723748442
I always laugh at retards with tiny 4k TVs sitting like 10 feet away from the TV.
Anonymous No.723750529 [Report]
>>723750275
Who the fuck sells 1080p screens that aren't cheap Chinese tat? No one is 'choosing' 4K that's just what TVs are now.
Anonymous No.723750606 [Report] >>723750859 >>723750901
i'm not buying 4k until a 480hz oled comes out so i can have my forever monitor
Anonymous No.723750631 [Report]
>>723745863
/thread
Anonymous No.723750732 [Report] >>723750895 >>723763320
>>723747693
>>723747301
There genuinely are stupid people that think the wider gamut of HDR/OLED is good and don't even realize it's just more green pixels. 99% of all content was made for rec709. Also HDR is literally artificial post processing and only retards eat it up. It's also fucking embarrassing that the biggest supporters of HDR don't even have a proper HDR capable display but think they do because the TV has some sticker that says "HDR Ready".
Anonymous No.723750819 [Report] >>723750898
>>723750079
Me too.
Anonymous No.723750829 [Report] >>723750979
>>723743454 (OP)
8k would give you the realestate of like 16? 1080p monitors like 4k gives the realestate of 4. Its nice not needing more than one monitor
Anonymous No.723750859 [Report]
>>723750606
monitors are consumer electronics
you're not married to them, just buy shit that you enjoy rn and then buy something else in the future
Anonymous No.723750895 [Report] >>723751057
>>723750732
Youre retarded.
Anonymous No.723750898 [Report]
>>723750819
Anonymous No.723750901 [Report] >>723751005 >>723751130
>>723750606
No offense but as someone with a peoejctor that for 360hz I cannot even tell the difference from 144hz/120hz.

Also I keep it at 60hz because I'm not a faggot.
Anonymous No.723750979 [Report] >>723751257
>>723750829
Yeah ok but you also need a fuck huge monitor to take advantage of that. Most of you retards get a fucking 23" 4k monitor and don't get why people laugh at your dumbasses for falling for the scam.
Anonymous No.723751005 [Report] >>723751150
>>723750901
try playing cs2 and see if you feel a difference
Anonymous No.723751057 [Report] >>723751257
>>723750895
>t. Low brightness OLED retard who doesn't know HDR isn't outoutting like it should

LMAO. Another retard robbed of his money.
Anonymous No.723751130 [Report] >>723751385
>>723750901
There is no 360hz refresh projector. Also the difference in panning the camera in a game is night anf day between 360 and 144 and thats also with framegen if uou cant achieve it naturally. Youre able to read and see tiny things while moving the camera. On a 144hz display you cant see shit when moving the camera
Anonymous No.723751150 [Report]
>>723751005
I only play CS2 deathmatch for skin drops. Valve basically ruined CSGO when they went full retard on eSports shit. (But I'm glad those eSports faggots bought enough of my skins so I can get a Steam Deck)
Anonymous No.723751257 [Report] >>723751510
>>723751057
Hdr isnt about brightness. Theres no movie that outputs more than 400 nits full field. And any oled can do more than say a qm7 in 99% of hdr movies since real scene measuements > apl
>>723750979
No my primary is 48" at a distance of 1m
Anonymous No.723751385 [Report] >>723751582
>>723751130
>No 360hz
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=91cnOKbJm2g

>144hz display you cant see shit
Maybe that's just your monitor and YOUR eyes.
Anonymous No.723751390 [Report] >>723751601 >>723751604 >>723757710 >>723760279 >>723766959
>>723745592
>>723745863
Playing on a 4K display is objectively the best way to play modern videogames because of how DLSS/FSR4 upscaling now. With a 4K screen I can play at 4K DLSS Performance mode for ~1700p graphics at ~1200p framerate, or even ultra performance for ~1400p graphics at ~900p framerate.

Because of this, there is literally no reason to get a 1080p or 1440p screen for playing modern videogames. If you're one of those people who think 4k is a meme well then you're stuck on a 1440p display while I get both better graphics and frames with 4K Performance. Or if you're one of those people who think modern upscalers are a meme well then you're stuck using TAA (or lack of AA which looks garbage now) while rendering drastically fewer frames that are uglier.

As for older videogames, well at this point your computer should be strong enough to run those at 4K natively anyway.
Anonymous No.723751490 [Report] >>723757132
HDR is really been a new invention for the oled monitor era samsung invented
In the past you had no hdr options worth a shit on windows, nvidia didnt have their AI hdr features, games shipped with 8bit colors, control had a 10bit patch just recently. The formats are a mess and some require licensing so they're only on some devices.

In the 2030's things should switch to something like everything being hdr 1st that gets converted to sdr with AI or some shit. Either you have cheap miniled monitors, or cheap oled monitors and sdr simply isnt preferable anymore.
Anonymous No.723751510 [Report] >>723751582
>>723751257
>Only 48"
Bro, you need at least 55" for 1080p kino.
Anonymous No.723751582 [Report]
>>723751385
Now tell me the response times of that shitty projector
>>723751510
Yes sure i want a pixelated mess
Anonymous No.723751601 [Report]
>>723751390
That's just kinda sad and pathetic and people need dlss/fsr4.
Anonymous No.723751604 [Report]
>>723751390
>lack of AA which looks garbage now
lack of aa at 4k with good mesh models doesn't really matter and hasn't for a long time
the problem is that all the big budget recent games can't run 4k native like games from a few years ago because of deliberate performance ruining garbage which is just a scam to force us to use new cards with upscaling and frame interpolation
Anonymous No.723751607 [Report] >>723753182 >>723757323 >>723766450
>poors once again telling others what they need
why do they all do this?
Anonymous No.723753182 [Report] >>723754720 >>723757323
>>723751607
>consoomer makes up imaginary target to gaslight themselves
Anonymous No.723754720 [Report]
>>723753182
>consooomer
I appear to be right on target
Anonymous No.723757132 [Report] >>723757274
>>723751490
Eventually HDR will be phased out because LCD is still good, cheaper, and easy to manufacture.
Anonymous No.723757274 [Report] >>723757448 >>723757468
>>723757132
lcd has gone completely extinct in phones and it's happening to tvs too
it's only a matter of time before that happens to monitors
Anonymous No.723757323 [Report] >>723758728
>>723753182
>>723751607
Poorfags are actually the ones pushing HDR/4k/8k. It's like when poorfags tell you the best way to watch a 4k movie is through a PS5 and shitty Hisense OLED instead of a dedicated 4k player and 4k projector with no smart feature bullshit. It just works.
Anonymous No.723757448 [Report] >>723757878
>>723757274
theres the miniled lcds that will be viable for the brightness, but oleds are only getting cheaper and its questionable how do lcds compete
if you have 400€ miniled with blooming and poor perf for sdr with minileds enaled vs 400€ oled you'd need to really like full screen brightness to not buy oled, except monitors are used 60-70cm away from your face and you dont want to blast your eyeballs with 1k nits fullscreen
Anonymous No.723757468 [Report]
>>723757274
Because OLED makes sense on phones. That's what OLED was designed for, low battery high contrast screen that is visible in sunlight. Personally I skipped the OLED phone this time and went for an LCD because it's 1/3rd of the price and it has a 3.5mm jack.
Anonymous No.723757710 [Report]
>>723751390
autismus maximus
Anonymous No.723757878 [Report]
>>723757448
>burning your eyes with nuts
That's why you guys need to take the projector pill. NO EYE STRAIN with all the brightness.
Anonymous No.723758728 [Report] >>723761824
>>723757323
>poorfags
>pushing for something they can't afford
Anonymous No.723758824 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
performance is actively regressing due to forced raytracing and upscaling drastically lowering the bar
so yes
Anonymous No.723760279 [Report] >>723761896 >>723762497
>>723751390
With upscaling and the fact that it is only getting better there is no reason not to be on 4K.
Anonymous No.723761824 [Report]
>>723758728
>What is credit cards
>He doesn't know poorfags are the largest population of brand new Galaxy and iPhones
>Doesn't know the people chasing the latest marketing scam are poorfags

Bro just look at how many poorfags grab a PS5 because TikTok said you need it.
Anonymous No.723761896 [Report]
>>723760279
You should only get 4k if you love movies. The performance impact is just terrible especially with everything being on Dog Shit Engine 4 and 5.
Anonymous No.723761983 [Report]
>>723748207
Nobody has a computer, nobody has an iPad, nobody is rich enough to own a home where a 4k TV would be useful, everyone's watching content on their phones which tops out at MAYBE 1440p, and often times it's even less.
Anonymous No.723762409 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
Not for VR porn
Anonymous No.723762460 [Report]
Human eye can't see above 420p
Anonymous No.723762497 [Report] >>723762665
>>723760279
fuck your upscaling frognigger faggotry
give me real performance or go to hell with your meme resolutions
Anonymous No.723762665 [Report] >>723763084
>>723762497
do these mentally ill spics understand what they're saying
you want the bestest performance? Well dish out for a 5090
Anonymous No.723763084 [Report]
>>723762665
>50xx gen cards
>can’t play on meme resolutions without meme scaling
I said real performance
Anonymous No.723763320 [Report]
>>723750732
>There genuinely are stupid people that think the wider gamut of HDR/OLED is good and don't even realize it's just more green pixels
False, and more capacity for color = le bad is a retarded argument
>99% of all content was made for rec709
Misleading in the sense that it makes no sense to master content for anything other than what people can see your content on. At the same time, many films were shot in archival formats well beyond the capabilities of the day, including resolution, and that also extends to the natural dynamic range of the filmstock which can be extracted and used for an HDR master. Doubly true for 3D games and CGI movies where their "raw" versions have no latent resolution, color gamut or dynamic range limit, and thus can be mastered in whatever format.
> Also HDR is literally artificial post processing
No. Or Yes depending on whether or not you consider tonemapping scene-data to display space (be that HDR or SDR) is post-processing, which I don't.
Notable exception is if you're Steve Yedlin and you make a gay 2 hour long video "debunking" HDR by using SDR grades of your movies with artificial boosting of the highlights into HDR range instead of tonemapping scene-data.
Anonymous No.723765568 [Report]
>>723745863
Holy shit you rattled some Samsung/Sony shills it's crazy. I kneel anon, mainly because
>4K IS a scam
Anonymous No.723765653 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
4k is still a meme and you're bringing up 8k?
Anonymous No.723765808 [Report]
Name ONE AAA game in the last five years that can run maxed out at 120hz in 4k.
Anonymous No.723766450 [Report]
>>723751607
hello fellow richfag, yes I too pay for all the MTX in the videogames I plae along with Diablo Immortal! God I love being rich. I just wish my trophy wife would stop fucking the landscapers while I play my new AAA EA/Ubisoft collab 3rd person UE5 action movie shooter with deluxe graphic renders
*smile*
Anonymous No.723766854 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
Remember 3D TVs from like 10 years ago?
Anonymous No.723766959 [Report]
>>723751390
I like that stupid people have to use this many words to convince themselves that they made the right choice.
Anonymous No.723767391 [Report]
>>723743454 (OP)
For me, 4k was worth it. Maybe not for gaming, albeit a developer issue, but for general Desktop usage. I have a separate 1440p monitor with a higher refresh rate, but I prefer my 4k tv despite it being Vizio-false-advertising garbage. '120 hz smooth motion', I mean. It was never programmed in the first place.