Thread 723747045

>6 gorillion zombie survival games on the market
>not a single good one
how come?

>>723747045 (OP)
what about Project Zomboid?

>>723747152
xD

>>723747045 (OP)
there's a zombie game for every genre of videogame. if you can't find a single zombie game to enjoy, you may just dislike videogames.

>>723747213
good thing thread is about survival games then retard

>>723747152
hahaha

>>723747340
oops I did glance over that word. idk I've gotten enjoyment out of most of them, at least for a time. it'd be more helpful if OP specified why he feels they aren't good.

>>723747192
>>723747364
its decent as a zombie game, its very customizable, very moddable and even has multiplayer and I guess the downside is that development is slower than shit that goes through a sloths anus but overall as far as zombie games go this is surely the best it gets.
also maybe Dead Rising (the first and original one not the remake).

>>723747213
name 5 good zombie games
no left 4 deads

>>723747559
>and even has multiplayer
does it?

>>723747152
>>723747559
loool

>>723747653
Left 4 dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Jackie Chan: Shanghai Zombie
Necrorape Sim 2025
Quake has zombies so it counts

>>723747152
They said zombie game, not tranny game. Thats like recommending people play new vegas when they ask for an rpg.

Prototype was cool. I wish we got more day-0 zombie outbreak games where you're trying to fight back the outbreak instead of these 99999 dawn of the dead adaptions.

>>723747045 (OP)
Unfortunately, Magic Zombies are completely underrated.
Most of the zombie game is classic rotting corpses, very dumb and slow, and the world always looks the same.

I recently completed all the games in the Sniper Elite Zombie Nazis series with my friends.
And bro, this is just awesome, I mean, the developers certainly weren't trying to make this game serious, but it turned out to be quite atmospheric and scary for a trash game. I like this atmosphere of Nazi aesthetics - and the end of the world in the style of "Doom", when there is fire and blood everywhere and the sky is in red tones.

They could make more games like this, but unfortunately, the entire zombie culture of the modern era is stuck in the boring and dull aesthetic of "Night of the Living Dead" and hasn't really moved on.
I like it when zombies can shoot, use variable items, or even vehicles. It's like demonic zombies created by dark magic, or some kind of mutants like in Resident Evil.

>>723748138
Have you played necrovision? You might like it.

>>723748138
aren't the zombies in blops magic zombies?

>>723747192
>>723747364
Let me guess, you want a zombie shooter?

>>723748249
Yes, I played it and I liked it, but I think the ending where you go to HELL to fight Satan is a bit over the top; it adds unnecessary grotesqueness to the game.

>>723748138
>I like it when zombies can shoot, use variable items, or even vehicles. It's like demonic zombies created by dark magic, or some kind of mutants like in Resident Evil.
The whole point is to have an enemy with unique mechanics, if they can do all that shit, they might as well not be zombies.

>>723748340
It was pretty mid.

Because survival is an inherently flawed genre that boils down to doing the same exact thing over and over again just to fill a meter while you try to actually play a game, and zombies alone are a boring enemy.

State of Decay 2 does so many things right only to still be ass somehow

>>723748638
Anon, that's every genre.

For what it's worth Dead Island 2 is a pretty fun romp if you get it on a sale. If you tolerate the shitty voice acting then you get an amazing gore system out of it, cracking a zombie's ribcage open with a sledge hammer or watching them fucking melt before your eyes never gets old.

>>723747152
>what about Project Zomboid?
It would be a great game but sadly the devs behind the game are arguably the most retarded game devs in the history of video games. Instead of making a zombie survival game they decided to make it into a shitty homesteading game that has shallow mechanics that take forever to grind(especially since the new update) because the game has no mid/late game content so the devs just make the early game so fucking grindy and insurable that you don't even want to bother making it the the "mid/late" game.

>>723748469
The bombastic escalation seemed fitting considering the game's tone was very "why? why not?"
Though the expansion pack was a bit more grounded so you probably enjoyed that more. I was just disappointed that they retconned zimmerman into a good boy who did nothing wrong. I was hyped to play as the bad guy necromancer as a counterpoint to the red blooded american who doesn't know who's bad or who's good, but is just the guy with the gun.

>>723748479
>if they can do all that shit, they might as well not be zombies.
If a necromancer wizard revives knights and turns them into zombies, they will at least use swords, spears, and shields, not to mention that they can perform simple tasks on the orders of their master.

That's the thing about magical zombies - they're cooler and more threatening.
In most zombie games, especially survival games with PVP elements, zombies are simply a nuisance that annoys the player.

>>723748750
It has too much grind

>>723748812
Sure, but the repetitive and unfun nature of survival shit is why it's so lame. Running around fighting monsters is fun, growing wheat so you can make bread for the millionth time so you can continue to play the actual game is lame.

the first dying light was kino desu

>>723748884
>Practically every option in difficulty settings can be customized
>Except they're all fucking bundled so you can't really change one specific part of the settings without making something else different too
AAAAAAAAAAA

>>723748842
They aren't retarded, they know exactly what they are doing. Do barely any work for over a decade while drooling retards continue to finance your laziness. Why bother making a good game when you can just stick your finger up your ass and make bank anyway?

>>723747045 (OP)
no more room in hell

>>723748875
Zombies are supposed to arrive in massive groups and slowly erode defenses, they're more like a semi-intelligent stage hazard than an enemy unit. Knights don't provide a unique challenge when they're undead, they're still just knights.

>clearly OP stated Zombie SURVIVAL games
>everyone just recommending zombie games
Fucking idiots

>>723747045 (OP)
>zombie survival games
bad concept from inception

>>723749101
There's only like five zombie survival games worth talking about, may as well make it zombies in general

>>723747045 (OP)
Never been surpassed and never will be

>>723748934
Yet Stardew Valley is one of the most successful games of all time. Unless fighting the monsters involves some fresh combat system I've never seen before, it'll get dull real quick.

>>723749101
As opposed to what? Games where the goal is to die to zombies??

Project Zomboid LOST 7 Days to Die WON

>>723747152
l0l

>>723749171
Aftermath wasn't as good, they dropped the ball with all the grind you have to do

>>723749101
Survival means alot of things in the horror genre context. old Resident Evil games are technically survival horror.

>>723747152
trolololol

>>723749293
As jank as 7 days is, it is pretty fun. I just wish the hordes weren't so over the top that you basically need to build a meta-bunker to survive.

>>723749293
7 days to die's development cycle is a trip lol

>>723749342
They mean a game where farming is the only survival mechanic, there is no so-called EndGame content - you just farm a bunch of loot and fill your inventory or your base with it and then just keep doing it over and over again because that's all you can do.

>>723749171
>assault rifles are all liquid shit, best guns are Uzi and then Hunting Rifle until you get the Barrett
>sequel is RNG hell and you can either end up with a full survivor party and godly weapons or get stuck with the dogshit shotgun and no helpers because the game decided to throw 6 niggers with machetes at your wall immediately behind a mass of fatties/armor
>third game is just a terrible attempt at an RPG where hardcore mode does nothing but add a little tedium and you can beat the entire game with zero skills and your bare hands while sorting infinite piles of pointless loot

What I want is a game with the autism of CDDA, but the comfy "sit by a fire while your food is cooking" feelings of The Long Dark, mixed State of Decay sieges that actually give you reason to barricade and defend your home.

>>723749231
>farming in a farming sim is the same thing as regularly needing to eat, sleep and drink in a survival game
Disingenuous.

red dead undead nightmare is the best zombie game

People can shit on Project Zomboid and it's awful development time all they want, but it really does offer something no other games do. Pure immserive long term survival where the game is more about the slow moments in between the action than actually fighting the zombie hordes. It has a very strong and robust modding community, and it's replayable as all fuck. Sure, does it lack a real endgame, and NPCs? Yes, but it is still immersive and atmospheric as all fuck
>inb4 CDDA
Barely even a game. It has the same aesthetics as a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet.

>>723749538
You literally described Project Zomboid. That game is all about those little moments of monotony. Like cooking dinner, organizing your base, fixing a car, boarding up windows, etc.

>>723749668
>long term survival
with no actual end game and a shitton of grind

>>723749540
That's not what I said, but it's still correct. A survival game is focused on survival, which includes gathering food and finding shelter.
You don't enjoy survival games, you want an action game.

>>723749668
Anon it lacks a game period.
>bonk zombies for a bit
>wash clothes
>eat
>drink
>watch meter go up as you practice a skill, which means doing literally nothing on the player's side as an animation plays for a while
>sleep
>repeat

>>723749874
Sounds like real life and immersive. Thanks, I'll check it out

>>723749738
Nah, I've played 40 hours of Zomboid when the mutliplayer update finally came out. It's not what I'm looking for. And it probably never will be. I'll be a zombie before that game is worth replaying again.

>>723749847
That is what you said, and I'm saying survival games suck ass.

>>723749668
In the end, all that skill grinding just to die from a zombie bite due to the janky combat mechanics is not very fun. I honestly think 7 days to die mogs it in most ways.

>>723749668
>long term survival
more like two weeks before you get bored out your mind

>>723748842
Ironically they just added a production director and design director who are industry vets so maybe something good will actually happen soon

But in reality, another 10 years of mediocre updates and no npcs.

>>723749979
7days to die would mog if the retarded devs didn't always nerf smart base designs

>>723749874
Do you boot up Zomboid at some point during your daily routine?

>>723749920
Yeah whatever man the /vg/ multi-player server was PEAK. I still remember the HUNK and Leon raids. I still remember that town people built on the outside of the map, I still remember logging in to find my car stolen, and shit looted, and my home full of zombies (someone parked a police car with a siren on outside)
Good times

>>723749668
does pz(more like pozed) have npc?

>>723749939
Okay, go play action games then. I find those boring as fuck, but to each their own?

>>723749979
>removed the skimpy zombies
>added more colored zombies
I shan't be playing such woke slop

>>723750023
It's not even that, they just nerf every play style except for the one they like: crafting everything and building massive bases

>quest rewards nerfed
>loot nerfed
>weather that makes it so you can't explore areas at your leisure, you have to do quests

>>723750023
Every game has its flaws, I think Zomboid ends up having more of them.

>>723750080
>I find action boring
You deserve to be bullied.

>>723749538
same but with no cdda autism

>>723750070
God damn that is one ugly fucking game. What is with the lighting? It's flat as fuck. Project Zomboid literally looks better than this shite

>>723750186
dont shit yourself man
just answer the question

>>723750040
Oh don't get me wrong, I enjoyed playing with everyone. I think the solo experience isn't enjoyable in the slightest though, it's just frustrating.

>>723747152
still no NPCs with intelligent mechanics that can form groups and combat the player.

>>723750283
>retarded covid reference
as if I needed more reasons to despise this trash

>>723750105
I dunno, I kind of prefer killing blacks over killing women. I hope they add lgbtqwerty+ zombies next.

>>723750331
nigga, that game was made before covid was released to the public
so i guess no npc in pz

>>723750164
They never innovate anon. After 10 action games, you've played them all.

>>723747045 (OP)
>Zombie survival sim with deep RPG mechanics
CDDA
>Zombie survival sim focused on shooting
Zed Zone
>Zombie survival sim focused on melee combat
(the absolute) State of Decay
>Zombie survival sim focused on NPC relations and building a community
Survivalist Invisible Strain
>Zombie survival sim focused on Mineycrafta autism
7 Days to Die
>Zombie survival sim about watching green bars fill up, realism but only when it's about adding tedium, slower development than Half-Life 3 and no actual endgame besides cordoning off a town block and growing potatoes
Project Zomboid

Hope this helped.

>>723747152
>Whole reason I bought the game a fucking decade ago was for a game mechanic that was shortly thereafter removed, and "promised" to be put back in ever since
I hate Zomboid like you wouldn't fucking believe.

>>723750313
>play a zombie game
>complain about not fighting humans
Play literally any other game.

>>723750565
fighting the zombies is perhaps one of the jankiest and unfun parts of the game

>>723750565
You don't understand me at all. My autism demands that in any game where friendly or enemy AI can make dynamic decisions in an open-ended scenario, I have to painstakingly follow and study them to watch them live out their lives, cataloguing the various decisions they make. I don't want NPC survivors in Zomboid to fight. I want them to study.

>>723750470
Was it really? I thought 2 came after, I know the first game was like 2018 or something.

>>723750565
So you are retarded and don't understand the implications of rival survival groups, rogue survivors making fuck ton of noise, or just making a party of people that can enhance the storytelling. You would rather have pigs than other rival humans that have the same needs are you.

Gib zombie game with actual hordes. Like 6 gorillion enemies on screen. No more of this 30 guys max nonsense. My PC should be pushed to the limit.

>>723750494
As someone with hundreds of hours in CDDA, it certainly has more depth to it than Zomboid, but it's still a very shallow game with no functional reason to engage in survival shit or defensive structures (zombies dont roam unless you toggle the super buggy mob roaming option that makes them phase through your kitchen wall and travelling to find canned food is infinitely faster and easier than farming) where you just make a murder RV, get some guns with enough ammo and steamroll everything. World gen is super fucked and nonsensical too.

Kevin is a fat retard.

>>723750812
What about the World War Z game? Dunno if it's any good but they go for the crazy hordes type stuff.

>>723747045 (OP)
Not so fast!

>>723750331
Buying toilet paper en masse in preparation for an epidemic has been a thing for a long time. Because it's no loss. It doesn't go bad, and you'll wipe your ass with it all eventually.

>>723750691
Because the combat sucks, it won't be better when you fight humans. How would a gun fight with a rival npc work out? First to shoot dies? Dice rolls?

>>723750751
I do, but it becomes an entirely different game then, which is more about managing rivals than zombies.

>>723751058
You can clean your ass with water and canned food is far more valuable of a thing to spend your money on before shit hits the fan.

>>723751074
Not necesarily. And even if it was true this is a zombie survival game and rival survivors is something that comes with the genre. They had survivors in the earlier versions.

>>723751117
Pretty sure water would be a far more important commodity than paper.

>>723750704
>first game was like 2018
2013

>>723750907
World War Z cheats. The zombies aren't individual units. They flow like water towards set defensive points where they bunch up and allow the player to shoot/explode them. The vast majority of the zombies will ignore the player and beeline to the wall they are supposed to punch.

>>723750869
The survival innawoods shit is great if you actually take advantage of it in modified settings with low item spawns and the like. Good stuff but again, needs to be set up right.
Personally though I prefer doing Megacity runs with a safehouse on a third floor+ building. Night raids, while still effective, become way tougher, requires more planning as well as making sure you lose any trails before you make your way back to your chosen base.

>>723751193
So you want it to be there because the genre dictates it?

>>723750812
days gone have quite nice hordes

>>723751294
yes and because the game is fucking stale and this point. Let's add planes and helicopters! oh I know! lets add... pottery! oh and get this... we should caligraphy too! this will surely enhance our zombie survival game!

>>723751225
Unless you live in Africa, rivers, lakes and collected rainwater are plentiful most places and all you really need to sterilize it (unless its downstream from a mercury factory or some shit) is to boil it.

>>723747729
what's wrong with dead rising faggot?

Too many zombie games are just open world survival games with zombies.

It should be about exploration, you should be moving trying to escape and find sanctuary. Multiple wide maps rather than jus a huge open square with an actual objective to go west to reach a safe city.

Small temporary camps each night, driving and maintaining a car over long roads, wallking though a dense city, navigating wilderness, farmlands and small towns.

>>723751402
This won't change much. The game is what it is and you've squeezed all the fun you can have out of it, time to move on.

>>723747152
>add new version after 5 billion years
>multiplayer doesn't work again
did they re-implement it? because the singleplayer solo experience is a fucking snoozeland

>>723751451
Half the US lives in a fucking desert.

I haven't played in a few months, but I have a post-apocalypse scenario in AI Roguelite that has zombies, werewolves, vampires, haywire robots, demons, mutants, and more as the enemies.
Turning an abandoned pharmacy into a base after completing a quest to clean out the undead inside, then building makeshift beds and a campfire (that the ai also designated as a crafting spot), and having fireside chats with my one-eyed sniper bandit waifu who made fun of me for failing to combine an assault rifle ammo clip with my hunting rifle (apparently it involved me taping it to the barrel) was some good shit.
I need to boot that up again, damn.

>>723751551
Sounds like the plot of a movie. Realistically, there won't be a "safe city" and traveling long distances is just risky and pointless.

>>723747045 (OP)
>not a single good one
I mean maybe not for you but I love the Dying Light series.

>>723751551
>"Battle Royale" but instead of a ring closing its a wall of flesh as zombies close in on your location. You and your buddies will have to scavenge and navigate the environment to reach extraction before the horde closes in on you.

>>723747152
PZ should be a case study why unemployed redditors shouldn't ever try to make a video game

>>723747045 (OP)
A few weeks ago i had the same realization but with movies, i was going through a nostalgia trip to back when zombies were the most popular shit and realized even though we had a an era of zombie movies being extremely popular, only train to buzan and maybe the remake of dawn of the dead could be considered "good" (also 28 days later if you count the infected as zombies).

>>723750539
what mechanic?

>>723751986
isnt that literally fortnite? the ring closing has a bunch of zombie monsters spawn in the fog

>>723752489
>if you count the infected as zombies
If you don't then you're a zombie pedant

>>723752737
I have never played fortnite. I dont know what you are talking about.

>>723749171
Get mogged two times in a row.

>>723747559
>even has multiplayer
Should we tell him?

>>723749538
7 Day to Die

>>723747045 (OP)
Dead Rising 2 and Dying Light are the best zombo games of all time. OF ALL TIME!!

>>723751971
DLs arent survival games

>>723747152
You might as well call Stardew Valley a zombie survival game

>>723754214
I only played the first Dying Light but I honestly thought it felt like a 6/10 game, mainly because of the combat. It felt like combat was added almost as an afterthought with the intent being that players would primarily be expected to parkour around and evade zombies as a last resort but then at the same time you've got tons of forced combat sections and missions like having to fight a beefy damage sponge boss while also dealing with tons and tons and tons of small fry enemies in a way that just doesn't feel like it meshes with the main game element of using parkour to evade and run from zombies. Fighting human enemies is annoying as fuck as well and can be bullshit at times
>throw a shuriken at some dude
>somehow he fucking deflects it while facing away from me

>>723754940
humans can't deflect bullets

>>723747045 (OP)
Counter Strike 1.6 ZM
Counter Strike: Source ZM
They Hunger
Zombie Master
Zombie Panic! Source

>>723747045 (OP)
this is a blast with a friend

>>723750494
I liked both State of Decay games its shame my frends arent interested in zombie shit.
I wanted to play lethal but got raped by hearths and ai can be retarded.
>>723751001
>people paid for free shit made by troon
>>723757524
How is the game i remember seeing it in gaming mag i used to read LOOONNGG ago.

Recently i reainstalled PZ and got some mods played it for like an hour then quit the game and unistalled like yea it can be fun but i want to have goals even vague one (also add the fucking npcs) (like i played the last of us 2 and I REALLY REALLY liked the enviorment design)

>>723747152
The search continues

>>723749101
Stubbs. You survive as a zombie and make more zombies.
You can go away now.

>>723754229
Oh if that's the case Zomboid and 7Days are the only zombie survival games that matter and even they aren't good. So OP is correct.

>>723747670
>>723753406
It has multiplayer. What the fuck are you on about?
>but muh dev build doesnt have it
So?

>>723750070
Why is state of decay so good my family member?

I'm just really surprised nobody has made a nice little co-op isometric zombie survival game where you're constantly forced to keep on moving and scavenging.
All of these survival games sizzle down into making a bunker and the little sandbox shitbox, which always just feels like a really "meh" aspect.

Anyone played fort zombie?
That shit was so ahead of everything in 2009, too bad it was a buggy laggy mess too
Still fun even today

>>723759624
Death Road to Canada, kind of fits this.

>>723760234
Unironically good fun, if not a bit too simple and repetitive.

>>723747045 (OP)
>>723747152
No one can refute that Zomboid is still unmatched an actually a good zombie survival game. Problem is that it's so slow on development and the Indie Stone constantly revised their milestones as to why everyone feels bitter about it. It's the closest we have to a genuine outbreak sim that feels like you could recreate some aspects of a Walking Dead episode. CDDA is decent for its own simulation merits too. But Zomboid is the non ascii version with combat that's all real time. And Zed Zone still trails far behind both of them. All of these instant replies of saying HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST ZOMBOID are just looking for some excuse to say why it's still not the best game on the market. Everything sucks compared to Zomboid and that's just a fact.

>>723761135
The combat is genuinely worse than CDDA, in the current state of the beta.

>>723762474
CCDA's combat is all about having the connivence of turns rather than timing your swings correctly, not comparable. You're not ever asked to think on your feet in the same sense. It does every aspect of simulation well. But this is what it cannot replicate since it's not real time. Real time matters in a way that you can't compare it.

How's Dead Island 2

>>723762910
Voodoo is doodoo, bitch

>>723748138
Zombie army 4 is the easily the best zombie shooter ever. Rebellion is fucking stupid for me not supporting this

Which game is equally hardcore enough to have bite/scratching/infections mechanics like Zomboid? of where one bite is dangerous and could spell the end? I mean out of everything that has released on Steam. Do any of them ever really emphasise just one single zombie, or zombies entirely as a real threat? like it's gotta make sense why you're the only one alive.

>>723747152
The only reason I bought it way back when was because they had working NPCs in the beta, and ever since that faggot dev made a post about "nooo muh laptop stolen, which conveniently had ALL the NPC progress on it, nooo this sucks :(", I knew the devs were scam artists.

It's been over a decade. Where the fuck are they?

>>723751001
>>723758951
What's the difference between CDDA and Cataclysm The Last Generation? all I know is that it's a fork apparently.

>>723764358
No More Room In Hell is like that where every zombie attack risks infection I think.

>>723759975
from Kerberos?
that was real steaming piece of shit

>>723761135
I can
its boring as hell, most of the fun in zombie genre come either from combat & carnage or human(NPC or PC) drama. Combat in PZ is bland and there is no human drama because there is no NPC.

>>723747045 (OP)
TKA
update soon

>>723747045 (OP)
What about just games with zombies in them, like L4D2 or WWZ?

RE: Outbreak

No More Room in Hell, Dead Rising and >>72374961 are my picks. I like CDDA too but theres so much crazy shit in that Game idk if it could even be called a zombie game

>>723768654
Broken link is undead nightmare oops

>>723747152
are you retarded

>>723763047
That bad?