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Anonymous No.723773201 [Report] >>723773251 >>723773293 >>723773341 >>723773850 >>723773881 >>723774047 >>723774282 >>723774452 >>723774521 >>723774595 >>723779194 >>723779316 >>723779427 >>723779902 >>723780093 >>723780371 >>723780584 >>723780717 >>723780772 >>723781653 >>723781975 >>723782292 >>723782847 >>723782990 >>723783024 >>723783049 >>723783176 >>723783264 >>723783296 >>723783313 >>723783446 >>723783542 >>723783578 >>723783816 >>723783886 >>723785059
Where have you been when NVidia was kill?

>NVidia RTX 6000
3nm

>AMD UDNA
2nm
Anonymous No.723773251 [Report] >>723773330 >>723774281 >>723781326 >>723782556
>>723773201 (OP)
>nm
marketing nonsense that no consumer actually benefits from
Anonymous No.723773293 [Report] >>723779272
>>723773201 (OP)
>2nm

so 2 being lower than 3 means its a flop. Nvidia wins again.
Anonymous No.723773330 [Report]
>>723773251
I know bro, I can open Wikipedia and read the line that says it's a marketing term that doesn't refer to any specific length of anything.

Nonetheless, the smaller the better.
Anonymous No.723773341 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
Do they have an answer to nvidia's domination with CUDA yet? If not then it doesn't matter for the larger gpu market.
Anonymous No.723773363 [Report]
amd gpus suck ass lmao
Anonymous No.723773489 [Report] >>723773817 >>723774172 >>723783365 >>723783603
I don't know what that means.
Anonymous No.723773817 [Report]
>>723773489
you just dont get it, do you
Anonymous No.723773850 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
in english, shill-kun
Anonymous No.723773881 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
>it's another "AMD's architecture is so dogshit that Nvidia can sandbag onto an older node and still match or win on perf/W" episode
Anonymous No.723773917 [Report]
both have gone full ai slop and don't make gpus anymore
you'll either upscale from 600p or 500p
make your choice
Anonymous No.723773993 [Report]
In english doc!
Anonymous No.723774047 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
*where were you
Anonymous No.723774172 [Report]
>>723773489
rubin = ai shit (token coding and generative shit)
mi450 = ai shit (oracle's 50k supercluster)
in other words: ai shit for corps burning through billions (soon to be trillions)
Anonymous No.723774281 [Report] >>723777361 >>723778123
>>723773251
all i know is that when nm number goes down, my temps and power usage also go down
funny that
Anonymous No.723774282 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
>indian twitter thread
really bros
Anonymous No.723774452 [Report] >>723779149
>>723773201 (OP)
>amd last ditch effort to be relevant in AI, overpays for 2nm advantage
>amd poojets thinking their gamer scraps will also be 2nm
kek
Anonymous No.723774521 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
you can even see the beard on this tranny lmao, he's like the clone of the nvidia chink
Anonymous No.723774595 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
oh boy, i can't wait for
>amd card that's 85% as good as competing nvidia card for $100 less!
this strat can bring amd to 3% of the gpu share from 6%!
Anonymous No.723777361 [Report] >>723782132
>>723774281
wrong
power usage has gone up
Anonymous No.723778123 [Report] >>723782869
>>723774281
You're a fucking retard, how do you people function outside of the internet?
Anonymous No.723778827 [Report]
As soon as they make the superior product ill buy it
Anonymous No.723779149 [Report]
>>723774452
I don't know what's more pathetic. Falling for another AMD lie or falling for another 12 GB overpriced garbage "mid-range" card from nvidia.
Anonymous No.723779194 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
your nm don't matter.
prices matter.
Anonymous No.723779272 [Report]
>>723773293
quarter pounder vs 1/3 pounder all over again
Anonymous No.723779316 [Report] >>723779369
>>723773201 (OP)
>no cuda
in to the trash it goes
Anonymous No.723779369 [Report] >>723779447 >>723779471 >>723779539
>>723779316
>muh RedditUDA
What are you homos doing with it?
Anonymous No.723779427 [Report] >>723779972
>>723773201 (OP)
>nvidia was kill
I do remember them selling somewhere like 20x more RTX3000 series than AMD sold RDNA2 cards.
AMD was on real TSMC 7nm
nVidia was on Samsung 8nm that was really 10nm.

I think they'll do just fine.
Anonymous No.723779447 [Report] >>723779905
>>723779369
Making AI touhou GFs.
Anonymous No.723779471 [Report] >>723779905
>>723779369
generating lewd images
Anonymous No.723779539 [Report]
>>723779369
>reddit
Loves AMD...
Anonymous No.723779572 [Report] >>723779632 >>723783876
just give me 48gb vram and ill be happy
Anonymous No.723779632 [Report] >>723779705
>>723779572
You can already get that.
>bbbut I don't want to pay extra for pro cards
Too bad.
Anonymous No.723779705 [Report] >>723779764
>>723779632
im not spending 10000 dollars om 48gb of anything
Anonymous No.723779712 [Report]
Isn't nvidia now backed by the zogverse? There's no reason to put any effort into such childish hobbies like gayming.
Anonymous No.723779764 [Report]
>>723779705
The rest of us don't want to pay $5000 for gaming GPUs that will be scalped by china AI fags.
Anonymous No.723779821 [Report]
I'm gaming
Anonymous No.723779852 [Report] >>723780261 >>723780461 >>723782186 >>723783058 >>723784076
just buy a switch 2 and feel like you're 12 again
Anonymous No.723779902 [Report] >>723779972
>>723773201 (OP)
This happened (even worse) when it was Ampere and RDNA3 yet Nvidia still BTFO out of Radeon in sales
Anonymous No.723779905 [Report]
>>723779447
>>723779471
Thought so.
Anonymous No.723779972 [Report]
>>723779427
>>723779902
Oh, really? Sorry then.
NVidia bros, we're so back.
Anonymous No.723780093 [Report] >>723780306
>>723773201 (OP)
The first generation yield on this node is unlikely to compare favorably to more mature nodes you find under the banner of 3N. It will also likely not have the numbers for larger consumer audience.

It is better suited for halo products like MI450. As well as chiplet architecture. Nvidia still seems committed to monolithic.

I do hope AMD doubles down on matrix multiplication and ray acceleration though. This will be necessary to be competitive against Nvidia.
Anonymous No.723780261 [Report] >>723780283
>>723779852
nogames and completely different function.
Anonymous No.723780283 [Report] >>723780351
>>723780261
>nogames
it already has 2 contenders of game of the year lmao, and it's getting another one soon with the return of Metroid
Anonymous No.723780306 [Report] >>723780548 >>723780583
>>723780093
AMD ditched chiplets on GPU.
They aren't coming back.
Anonymous No.723780351 [Report] >>723780407
>>723780283
The baby kart game? Or do you mean neo palworld? I wouldn't call those GOTY material
Anonymous No.723780371 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
And nvidia will still win because it will be more efficient and just as, if not more powerful
Anonymous No.723780407 [Report] >>723780482 >>723780589
>>723780351
mario kart world is fucking revolutionary and donkey kong bananza is one of the best platformers of all time. it's clear you're never even played them.
Anonymous No.723780461 [Report]
>>723779852
>and feel like you're 12 again
because you're buying a fisher price tablet?
Anonymous No.723780482 [Report]
>>723780407
LOL
Anonymous No.723780548 [Report] >>723780801
>>723780306
Chiplets might come back, if AMD can somehow solve the bandwidth issues. It would give them a huge manufacturing advantage, after all.
Anonymous No.723780583 [Report] >>723780801 >>723780868
>>723780306
>AMD ditched chiplets on GPU.
I will take it on your word that this has happened. I believe chiplet are still used for MI450. Correct me if I am wrong.

However I disagree with this:
>They aren't coming back.
Chiplet will be mandatory in the era of HighNA EUV as reticle size will shrink and large monolithic dies will not be possible.

Also I believe AMD is still forward looking to chiplet. Their last MI300 chip featured fan-out interconnect, as oppose to traditional SerDes for the sake of better chiplet interconnect.
Anonymous No.723780584 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
who gives a fuck if all games are shit and you can already run them at max settings
technology advances far more than dev skills, modern devs cannot even take full advantage of 15+ year old cards without having to inject a shit """modern""" engine into their games and let it do the work for them
Anonymous No.723780589 [Report]
>>723780407
Not that anon and have played both.
Bananza is a genuinely amazing game, but it's not GOTY material. Especially against the media's E33 darling. (KCD2 is my GOTY, but it won't win either)
MKW sucks though. I wanted to like it, but it's just boring straight roads between actual courses you're not allowed to drive more than a lap of: the game.
Knockout mode is the best part of it but it's not enough to save the rest of the mediocrity. I played MK8DX 3 days ago, it's been months since I've booted up MKW - most disappointing MK since the shit phone game.
Anonymous No.723780643 [Report]
Remember the bit wars? I remember.
Anonymous No.723780717 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
>using a stock symbol to refer to companies
yeah, it's a stock market grifter
ignore and move on
Anonymous No.723780772 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
nvidia-bros how do we cope
Anonymous No.723780801 [Report] >>723780976
>>723780548
As mentioned here:
>>723780583
Chiplet will be mandatory with HighNA, as it will shrink reticle size to 429mm^2, making monolithic dies like the one in the rtx50xx series infeasible.
Anonymous No.723780868 [Report] >>723781041
>>723780583
On Instinct they aren't going anywhere.
On Radeon it didn't work. RDNA4 chiplets were cancelled apparently due to AMD's ancient enemy from years past - microstutter.

Wild Speculation: I think they'll probably do 'chiplets' on UDNA as the Display Controller+Media Engine and other common things outside the memory controller and shader engines, will get shuttled to their own chiplet, with the rest on single big dies. Like the AVIVO/Radeon Theatre days.
Anonymous No.723780971 [Report] >>723781051
Ah yes. AMD definitely has the GPU know-how to capitalize on this situation. Just like they did back at Pascal vs Vega. Vega wasn't a power hungry, hot, whole hog of a card which had everything going for it (smaller node, newer architecture, came out after) compared to the competition and yet, still lost in every respect to its rival cards in the end.

What I'm saying is that, even though AMD is in the exact same situation now, it'll definitely make a card that's better and make full use of the smaller node. This won't be another wash for Nvidia. AMD have this in the bag!
Anonymous No.723780976 [Report] >>723781210
>>723780801
I don't know what nVidia will do.
They've apparently been looking into Intel fab, so maybe nV will do FOVEROS?
AMD don't need chiplets for their GPUs though.
Officially Instinct are 'accelerators' now, since all the G part got torn out with CDNA.
Anonymous No.723781020 [Report]
LOL He doesn't know what nm is!!!
THIS
IS
BIG
HUGE
MASSIVE
WOW
LOVE
FROM
INDIA
Anonymous No.723781041 [Report]
>>723780868
I think that is all fair, and your thought process about separating dies by function is the standard approach to chiplet. This is suppose to be one of the selling points, because you can acquire different dies on different litho from different suppliers to meet your specific need.

However the industry is spending a lot of resources on attacking the interconnect latency and power over head issues. This is because the writing is very clearly on the wall for monolithic dies.

We will be forced to move to chiplet, and we will have to get better at interconnect. AMD is part of this with fan-out interconnect design.
Anonymous No.723781051 [Report]
>>723780971
They didn't really have a node advantage there.
TSMC 16nm was miles better than GF 14nm.
Even nVidia's own parts told that story.

They did have a distinct node advantage with RDNA2 though.
Anonymous No.723781187 [Report] >>723781710
Nvidia is better at capitalism. If they don't already have a better or equal tech to release tee'd up behind the scenes I assume their corporate espionage division will be right on it, and break that barrier shortly.

Therefore I will wait for the matching nvidia product, as it will definitely have better drivers.
Anonymous No.723781210 [Report]
>>723780976
I don't know what Nvidia will do in the consumer market either. However, in the AI industry they are putting their money on CUPE and Photonic interconnect, which I see as the real end game.

In the future every data line should be photonic. This includes data lines in the NoC.
Anonymous No.723781326 [Report]
>>723773251
weird that this line became so prevalent just as nvidia fell behind.
Anonymous No.723781331 [Report] >>723781883
>AMD has worse drivers
Goddamn Nvidia shilling meme needs to die already.
Anonymous No.723781653 [Report] >>723781780
>>723773201 (OP)
>UDNA
"oo dna" mean at the bottom in russian
Anonymous No.723781710 [Report] >>723782518
>>723781187
>le drivers

multiple times this year nvidia has released bugged drivers. At this point I don't bother updating for months, since its usually more trouble than its worth.
Anonymous No.723781780 [Report] >>723783537
>>723781653
Cool, but yesterday some Russian nigga teabagged me in BF6 after I failed to knife him.
Anonymous No.723781883 [Report] >>723781957 >>723782301
>>723781331
My AMD card had water flying in the sky for months in Hogwarts Legacy (2023), go fuck yourself
Anonymous No.723781957 [Report]
>>723781883
thats literally part of the game world go fuck yourself
avadacadavra
Anonymous No.723781975 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
hopefully theres finally meaningful performance jump AND good VRAM next generation from both companies
Anonymous No.723782132 [Report]
>>723777361
power usage has gone up because the RTX5000 series is using basically the same process node as the 4000 series, but with larger dies. The transistor density actually went DOWN from the 4000 series. It's long been the case that for the same die size, a node shrink will allow for higher transistor density and better power efficiency.
Anonymous No.723782137 [Report] >>723782196
When should I sell my AMD bags? They're up 100% (my Intelaviv ones too).
Anonymous No.723782179 [Report]
When will they become affordable?....
Anonymous No.723782186 [Report] >>723782264
>>723779852
>can't afford more than 5 games
I rather not.
Anonymous No.723782196 [Report]
>>723782137
If it's good enough to screenshot (or tell us about it), it's good enough to sell.
Anonymous No.723782213 [Report] >>723782259 >>723782301 >>723782572 >>723782950
AMD cards and drivers are fine. They are definitely fixed and better than they were and not hideously broken in the most popular games of the last 5 years.
You will not regret purchasing AMD.
Anonymous No.723782259 [Report] >>723782434
>>723782213
this guys on like a 6600xt or something with dated studio drivers
Anonymous No.723782264 [Report]
>>723782186
you dont need more games than 5 because they're so good. pic related
Anonymous No.723782292 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
I wish mommy Lisa dropped her bombshell on my faec
Anonymous No.723782301 [Report] >>723782434
>>723782213
>>723781883
>its muh amd
>The "Hogwarts Legacy" NVIDIA water bug can often be fixed by adjusting settings like the shader cache size in the NVIDIA Control Panel, disabling fullscreen optimizations for the game's executable, or checking the game's files for corruption. Other potential fixes include lowering graphical settings, disabling ray tracing, or ensuring your graphics drivers are up to date.
Anonymous No.723782434 [Report] >>723782572 >>723782615 >>723782703 >>723782950
>>723782259
Of course. It's always the user's fault somehow. AMD drivers are perfect and would never cause issues across multiple cards for 6+ months after release even with updated drivers.
>>723782301
>google The "Hogwarts Legacy" NVIDIA water bug
>all the results are AMD
How odd. Why are google colluding with NVIDIA against AMD? This is a conspiracy.
Anonymous No.723782518 [Report]
>>723781710
/v/ is techlet central. They're still pushing a decade old meme about AMD and emulators.
Anonymous No.723782556 [Report]
>>723773251
>former José is twice the size of the current one
we could get a fuckhuge perf increase because they can go back to brute force by shoving twice the current transistor count. Of course it won't happen because they'll milk this 2nm process for the next decade so we'll get only marginal improvements for double the cost as usual.
Anonymous No.723782572 [Report]
>>723782213
>>723782434
>playing harry potter games
Legitimately why?
But also; my 7900xt ate everything I threw at it, including the absolute mess that was Oblivion Remastered without issue.
Anonymous No.723782615 [Report] >>723782704
>>723782434
this guy is crying about a single game lol
remember when nvidia cards burst into flames
remember when nvidia cards catch fire because of the cable connector they now use
remember when nvidia gpus caused monitors to blackscreen randomly for 3-6 months when the 50 series came out
Anonymous No.723782703 [Report]
>>723782434
As recent developments have shown, AMD have no interest in supporting anything but their latest generation of GPUs.
There's no point buying AMD in case you're a richfag who can update constantly, in which case, why aren't you just buying NVIDIA instead?
Anonymous No.723782704 [Report]
>>723782615
It has absolutely nothing to do with the cable, but the port itself on the GPU. ideally 12pin connectors should have three power delivery rails. They did on Ampere for 3090/3090ti. On Ada they had 2. On Blackedwell they have 1.
That's why the fires keep happening.
Anonymous No.723782847 [Report] >>723782882
>>723773201 (OP)
AMD will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, don't forget Susi and jacketman are cousins and seem to have zero intention of actually going into a market war for the best product.
Anonymous No.723782869 [Report]
>>723778123
you dumb cunt
Anonymous No.723782882 [Report] >>723783016
>>723782847
Sucks how Lisa Su saved their CPU division from the brink, but managed to nosedive the GPU division into utter irrelevancy. They exist just so nvidia doesn't get hit with an anti-trust suit by the US government.
Anonymous No.723782894 [Report] >>723783014 >>723783253
When do we get Nvidia GPU handheld? AMD fucking sucks. FSR is a flop. I need DLSS.
Anonymous No.723782950 [Report] >>723783248
>>723782434
>>723782213
>see bugged graphics
>instead of updating drivers spend rest of the day taking screenshots of glitches to prove a non existing point
Anonymous No.723782990 [Report] >>723783104
>>723773201 (OP)
Per Watt the Switch 2 on 8nm (offshoot of 10nm) blows the absolute fucking shit out of the Steam Deck which is 6nm (offshoot of 7nm) these both use GPU architectures that launched the same year, the same is true for the GPU's from the same generation, Nvidia 30 series are Samsung 8nm, and RDNA 2 are TSMC 6nm and TSMC are fuckloads better than Samsung, yet the RTX 30 series blew the absolute fuck out of whatever the fuck Radeon generation it was, who really cares nobody uses Radeon except consoles.
This matters shit all until Nvidia end up on the same fab process in which case they will just have an even bigger advantage.
Anonymous No.723783014 [Report]
>>723782894
Nvidia doesn't make gamer products anymore. Why would they? Even though they could release a Shield 2 amidst this explosion of chinkheld retro pockets, they won't. Because it's not worth it.
Anonymous No.723783016 [Report] >>723783063
>>723782882
I really REALLY want a AMD win because their drivers are so smooth on Linux, but I know it won't happen, best we can hope is for the AI bubble burst to crash GPU prices for a little bit (until another minable shitcoin gets popular and we're back to square one).
Anonymous No.723783024 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
I don't care nigger. 2GB cards are more than enough. Just make good games again, instead of le bigger number video cards to enable worthless AA and AAA studios.
Anonymous No.723783049 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
>30 and 20 angstrom processes
we can't go much smaller than this
Anonymous No.723783058 [Report] >>723783089 >>723783148
>>723779852
They're not getting my money before I get a special edition for a game I like in nice colors. I can wait until the next smash game. Mystery nigga threads get me excited.
Anonymous No.723783063 [Report]
>>723783016
The drivers are fantastic, but the Adrenalin suite is like 50-80% of your GPU's features now, and that's only for Windows. I will NOT install Windows 11. I'm just not gonna do it hahahaha.
Anonymous No.723783073 [Report]
>Njudea shill defense force is in full swing already
kekaroo kill selves
Anonymous No.723783089 [Report] >>723783490
>>723783058
Didnt you say you bought one like 2 weeks ago while posting your mario dance webm
Anonymous No.723783104 [Report] >>723783163 >>723783271 >>723783451
>>723782990
You're so absolutely wrong it's not even funny. All Ampere had over RNDA2 was ray tracing. In regular rasterization, RNDA2 trounced Ampere at every single performance tier.
Anonymous No.723783148 [Report] >>723783238 >>723783490
>>723783058
you should buy one now and then just buy a second one whenever they release a special edition. your doing a good deed supporting a company that actually cares about video games, and since it's portable its extremely nice to have more than one console.
Anonymous No.723783163 [Report] >>723783270
>>723783104
Cool, but the age of Redditerization is over.
Anonymous No.723783176 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
First America invents AI then they're gonna invent the first chips measured in picometers and finally, FINALLY we'll enter an unironic cyberpunk age
Anonymous No.723783238 [Report] >>723783359 >>723783405
>>723783148
>portable
>dies in 1h30
Anonymous No.723783248 [Report] >>723783312 >>723783323 >>723783439 >>723783508
>>723782950
>just update your drivers bro
Anonymous No.723783253 [Report] >>723783310
>>723782894
XeSS XMX > fsr4 > DLSS4
Anonymous No.723783258 [Report]
This isn't news you fucking nigger, amd achieved 2nm lithology much earlier this year.
Anonymous No.723783264 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
She looks like a fucking man
Anonymous No.723783270 [Report]
>>723783163
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, faggot.
Anonymous No.723783271 [Report] >>723783345 >>723783359 >>723783405
>>723783104
Switch 2 shits all over the Steam deck for a fraction of the power, this really matters for nothing when the truth is that Nvidia's GPU architecture is just outright better, per cycle it does more work, so miniaturization just doesn't matter for shit.
Anonymous No.723783296 [Report] >>723783348
>>723773201 (OP)
wow. amd goes from 2% market share to 3%
Anonymous No.723783310 [Report]
>>723783253
In your dreams.
Anonymous No.723783312 [Report] >>723783617
>>723783248
>muh decade old card wont play the potterslop
Anonymous No.723783313 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
Doesn't matter, all the AI stuff works on nvidia and that's 90% of the industry now
Anonymous No.723783323 [Report] >>723783468 >>723783617
>>723783248
>rx400/500
lol hes literally indian
Anonymous No.723783345 [Report] >>723783547
>>723783271
>switch 2
>dedicated gpu
>deck
>shitty 4core apu with 4 compute units
the switch is stronger wow really you don't say
Anonymous No.723783348 [Report]
>>723783296
More realistically 2.2%
Anonymous No.723783359 [Report]
>>723783238
>for a fraction of the power
the power: >>723783271
Anonymous No.723783365 [Report] >>723783950
>>723773489
chip makers made up marketing terms like 4nm, and AMD's marketing made up number is lower than Nvidia's made up number so that means it's betterer.
Anonymous No.723783405 [Report] >>723783547
it was supposed to be this order sorry

>>723783271
>for a fraction of the power
the power: >>723783238

and no docked doesnt count just buy a ps5 at that point
Anonymous No.723783439 [Report]
>>723783248
>mod says AMD already fixed it
lol.
https://www.nexusmods.com/hogwartslegacy/mods/995?tab=description
Anonymous No.723783446 [Report] >>723783950
>>723773201 (OP)
>2nm
>3nm
That means absolutely nothing. It has no bearing on any real world numbers. It's literally just "mine's smaller than yours" talk.
Anonymous No.723783451 [Report]
>>723783104
Ok and now factor in DLSS
Anonymous No.723783468 [Report]
>>723783323
Perhaps, but you sound like an Amerimutt.
Anonymous No.723783490 [Report] >>723783520
>>723783089
I've never posted that, so no.
>>723783148
lol no
Anonymous No.723783508 [Report]
>>723783248
dumb jeet
Anonymous No.723783520 [Report] >>723783674
>>723783490
the mario dance webm poster was always saying he was waiting for a special edition in a color he likes before buying though so its you
Anonymous No.723783537 [Report]
>>723781780
my condolences, git gud
Anonymous No.723783542 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
The problem with AMD is in its drivers. I want to buy an AMD card but production on their hardware sucks.
Anonymous No.723783547 [Report] >>723783567 >>723783583
>>723783345
They are both APUs.
It has 8 CUs, the Switch 2 has 12 SMs, but the Switch 2 is also way more power efficiency, but the Steam Deck has 2.5x the battery capacity.

>>723783405
It's a point of comparison that the Switch 2 at a higher fab process is better than the Steam Deck, and nice that you mention the PS5, since that showed us that higher clocks beats more CUs/SMs, with some games ending up with better performance than some games on Xbox Series X, but Switch 2 at lower clocks and more SMs beats the Steam Deck, 1.6ghz vs handheld Switch 2 at 561mhz while in handheld.
Anonymous No.723783567 [Report] >>723783784
>>723783547
why does performance matter if you cant play for more than an hour 30
Anonymous No.723783578 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
Wasn't amd 6000 series on 7nm TSMC node or something, whilst the Nvidia Ampere 3000 or whatever was Samsung 8nm? How the fuck did AMD lose so badly to Nvidia's 3000 series? Fucking joke AMD makes TERRIBLE GPUs AND their CPUs run TOO FUCKING HOT
Anonymous No.723783580 [Report] >>723783975
What would happen to Jewvidia when China cracks processor production?
Imagine all those fake monopoly dollars that would magically vanish when the stock market acks itself
Anonymous No.723783583 [Report] >>723783784
>>723783547
>"they're both APUs"
>one apu is actually stronger than the other
>"the switch is le better!"
okay.jpg
Anonymous No.723783603 [Report]
>>723773489
Smartest nvidiachad
Anonymous No.723783617 [Report] >>723783682 >>723783693
>>723783312
>>723783323
>it's normal for 4 year old cards that are beyond the requirements to have shitty drivers with water flying everywhere
Maybe for AMD
Anonymous No.723783674 [Report]
>>723783520
I don't feel like it's a unique stance man
Anonymous No.723783682 [Report]
>>723783617
Yes, Sukdeep, it's normal for a decade old card to struggle with UE4/5slop
Anonymous No.723783693 [Report] >>723783732 >>723783902
>>723783617
>4 year old
the rx480 came out in 2016
thats 9 years
Anonymous No.723783716 [Report] >>723783857
Amazing, what games are worth the upgrade? Not one? Shame
Anonymous No.723783732 [Report]
>>723783693
SAAR
SAAR PLEASE UNDERSTAND
THE RX480 DID NOT REDEEM IN MUMBAI UNTIL 2021 SAAAR
Anonymous No.723783782 [Report]
Unfortunately power efficiency doesn't matter outside of mobile devices.
AMD needs to start releasing shit with giant dies that draw 500W if they want to compete.
Anonymous No.723783784 [Report] >>723783852
>>723783567
You'd be able to play for 5 hours if it had the Steam Decks battery, that's just the gap in performance/efficiency, which is of course funny because it's a generation behind in terms of miniaturization, Switch 2 on 6nm, would have made the Steam Deck look like a complete fucking joke, and most likely we will see this come to pass for the Switch 2 refresh model, it's going to be like comparing Mario Kart World sales to Sonic Cross worlds sales.

>>723783583
They are both APUs, absolutely, and yes undoubtedly one would be better than the other, it's what happens when you compare 2 things where there's an objective way to measure superiority between the 2, absolutely, and yes the Switch 2 has shown to be better.
Anonymous No.723783816 [Report] >>723783921
>>723773201 (OP)
>Implying AMD is viable ever
The CEOs are related, they're both in on it. Lisa Su has massive shares in Nvidia. They're effectively running a controlled monopoly all of this is smokescreen tactics. Just look at how hard they're both fucking over Intel for trying to launch ARC.
Anonymous No.723783852 [Report] >>723783935
>>723783784
Yes the higher tier GPU is stronger than a weaker tier one.
>what do you mean RNDA2 is better than Ampere? My 3080 is more powerful than a 6400!
Anonymous No.723783857 [Report] >>723783969
>>723783716
Modern games are so unoptimized that you actually need to start upgrading your CPU more. I was looking to go from AM4 to 9950x3D to get better framerate on Palworld in bigger worlds (since my fps would dip to below 20fps when pals went to sleep), but when when I saw it would cost 2300-3000€ to upgrade mobo, cpu, memory, psu and stuff, that's when it hit me that maybe modern games are just not worth it anymore. So now I game on Switch 2 instead. If I miss a game on switch, it's because the game was unoptimized. If even Cyberpunk is on switch and runs ok, then there's no excuse for the other game to not be. So any games not on switch is probably not worth playing because developer couldn't optimize it enough.
Anonymous No.723783876 [Report] >>723783936
>>723779572
I usually upgrade my card when I can double the VRAM for the same price.

I got 12GB for $300 two years ago. I'm willing to spend up to $400 for 24GB.
Anonymous No.723783886 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
Who cares? That's just going to increase costs more while they squeeze 10% more actual performance out of a card that uses 15% more power. Then slap some AI shittery on there to pretend it's actually 6x faster.
>5070 is le 4090 performance for $549!* ** ***
>*in select titles with maximum dlss/framegen versus no dlss/framegen
>**in supported titles only
>***don't play for longer than like 30 minutes or else
Anonymous No.723783902 [Report] >>723783947
>>723783693
Even the RX590 had the same issue and that was 4 years. Definitely not a "decade".
All because AMD don't know how to make water work over 45 FPS lol.
Anonymous No.723783921 [Report] >>723784626
>>723783816
Yeah the FTC needs to do something about the duopoly shit. Intel used to be fucking based I know some their recent CPUs have had problems, but I really want intel to be back because for very long they were the best way to game and I have nothing but fond memories from Intel. My games started running lower FPS the moment I switched from 5820k to 5950x and I don't know wtf happened
Anonymous No.723783935 [Report] >>723783980
>>723783852
They are the same tier, Switch 2 is just better designed, at least on Nvidia's side, although Steam Deck is kind of disappointing hardware wise, no idea why they went with RDNA 2, they should have waited for RDNA 3, RDNA 2 was complete shit.
Anonymous No.723783936 [Report]
>>723783876
>I'm willing to spend up to $400 for 24GB.
Anonymous No.723783947 [Report]
>>723783902
>2016 card
>"4 years old"
Anonymous No.723783950 [Report] >>723784170
>>723783446
>>723783365

the smaller your process the more transistors you can fit in the same physical space. the more transistors you have the more powerful the chip

so yeah, even a single nanometre is a huge fucking deal here
Anonymous No.723783969 [Report] >>723784069
>>723783857
>but when when I saw it would cost 2300-3000€ to upgrade mobo, cpu, memory, psu
It would cost $1000 at most. On Shitch you're locked to $80 30 fps 720p ports. Don't try to equate the two you dumb fuck.
Anonymous No.723783975 [Report]
>>723783580
It's already happened.
Huawei is within 10% of H100 performance at half the power and double the ram.
China is banning new purchases of nVidia and forcing the larger companies to move to Huawei.

However, now since Trump says US needs to beat china on AI, anything not sold to China will just be sold to US for 4x the price. Leatherjacketman still won.
Anonymous No.723783980 [Report] >>723783993
>>723783935
>t-they're th-the s-same t-t-tier!!!
lmfao no
Anonymous No.723783993 [Report] >>723784014
>>723783980
Yes, they are handheld hardware tier.
Anonymous No.723784014 [Report] >>723784073
>>723783993
>there's only one tier of handheld performance
I thought you were trolling, but now I'm sure you're just stupid.
Anonymous No.723784069 [Report] >>723784280 >>723784328
>>723783969
>It would cost $1000 at most
If you wanna do an experiment, go on parts picker, and choose top quality parts worthy of a 9950x3D system, without overpaying. 64gb-128gb memory kit because browsers keep eating up memory (but 250-350 for memory), 1200-1300watt PSU, mobo is 350-500 or something (probably MSI or other brand with quick release button for GPU). I did this and in my country it was 2300, and this time it wasn't with 700euro asus darkhero mobo cause I learned that you need to have quick switch release for GPU on your mobo
Anonymous No.723784073 [Report] >>723784118
>>723784014
And of which they are of the same tier, it's not like it's an Rog Ally Xbox, come on ally.
Anonymous No.723784076 [Report]
>>723779852
when i was 12 the vidya industry still had soul.
Anonymous No.723784118 [Report] >>723784184
>>723784073
>And of which they are of the same tier,
source: your curry-stained ass
Anonymous No.723784170 [Report]
>>723783950
Which is why they're using it as marketing talk but it has ZERO bearing on the actual manufacturing process. The number is meaningless. It's just an arbitrary number. There's no telling if AMD will be faster than Jewvidia because they use entirely different manufacturing and metrics and they're just figuratively racing to the bottom with their numbering schemes.
Anonymous No.723784184 [Report] >>723784253
>>723784118
My source is the comparable performance of the two devices.
Anonymous No.723784253 [Report] >>723784362
>>723784184
And where is your methodology, you barehand ass wiper.
Anonymous No.723784276 [Report] >>723784314
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/workstations/professional-desktop-gpus/rtx-pro-5000/

>72 GB GDDR7 with ECC

NVIDIA WON
Anonymous No.723784280 [Report] >>723784309
>>723784069
>9950x3D system, without overpaying. 64gb-128gb memory kit because browsers keep eating up memory (but 250-350 for memory), 1200-1300watt PSU,
Ok so you're retarded good to know. Stick with your tablet.
Anonymous No.723784309 [Report]
>>723784280
9950x3d + mobo alone is more than 1000€ . Anon you failed, why must everything be ragebait on this website now?
Anonymous No.723784314 [Report]
>>723784276
>can run 2077 with path tracing at 24fps before upscaling/framegen
waow!!!!
Anonymous No.723784328 [Report] >>723784374
>>723784069
>I learned that you need to have quick switch release for GPU on your mobo
confirmed for moron.
Anonymous No.723784362 [Report] >>723784420
>>723784253
comparable flops at least when handheld is considered as well as comparable performance between games, they are similar, but like I stated the Switch 2 does that for significantly less power draw, because the hardware is just better designed, just not on Nintendo's end.
Anonymous No.723784374 [Report] >>723784424
>>723784328
>jayztwocents is a moron for recommending consumers to get a mobo that doesn't run risk of breaking when trying to release a massive GPU that covers the regular PCI-E release switch
LLM tier bait
Anonymous No.723784420 [Report] >>723784729
>>723784362
More numbers you pulled from your unwashed backside?
Anonymous No.723784424 [Report] >>723784540
>>723784374
>jayztwocents is a moron
Correct.
Anonymous No.723784540 [Report] >>723784697 >>723784801
>>723784424
>thinks he knows better because he has small dual fan 4gb gpu
that's cute but we're not in 2012 anymore
Anonymous No.723784626 [Report]
>>723783921
But that would be communism. Or at least socialism. Or at least a step against your beloved free market.
Anonymous No.723784697 [Report] >>723784761
>>723784540
Solved 20 years ago without needing stupid fad/meme shit.
Anonymous No.723784729 [Report] >>723784802
>>723784420
Well now you're just trolling me, stop @ing me you retard.
Anonymous No.723784761 [Report] >>723784840
>>723784697
Which part of
>large GPUs of today covers the regular swtich from being accessible
failed to register your brain? You need to use a tool to remove large GPU from a PCI-E slot that doesn't have quick release switch, like MSI and some other brand has
Anonymous No.723784793 [Report] >>723784865
So what happens when they get to 1nm?
Anonymous No.723784801 [Report] >>723784960
>>723784540
>4gb gpu
>2012
What? my 2011 560ti had 1GB of Ram and my 2015 960 had 2GB of Ram.
Anonymous No.723784802 [Report] >>723784929
>>723784729
I accept your concession, Ranjeep.
Anonymous No.723784840 [Report] >>723784898
>>723784761
No you don't.


You're a braindead idiot who needs instructions from a video but can't see with their own eyes that the switch is ABOVE the socket, so it won't be covered by the GPU.
You're a c o m p l e t e brainlet.
Anonymous No.723784865 [Report]
>>723784793
The universe resets and we go back to using single core everything as god intended
Anonymous No.723784898 [Report] >>723784996
>>723784840
>No you don't.
Then you don't have a large GPU, which why I said, your dual fan is cute, but it's not 2012 anymore, and don't try to pretend you know. You're arguing out of malevolence and ignorance
Anonymous No.723784929 [Report]
>>723784802
There is no concession, the performance of the graphics parts of these APU's is well known, they are comparable due to their configurations at least when comparing handheld Switch 2 to the Steam Deck, we know this, we know this from gameplay captures measuring performance, we know this from calculations comparing raw power capabilities and we know this from architectural comparisons. You're the retard claiming that I'm just making this shit up so really you are at this point completely full of shit.
>ranjeep
Painful, there's nothing worse than someone claiming you're an indian, the lowest of humans on this earth.
Every post you've made so far has been you spouting nonce sense from a place of ignorance, seriously either make a real point or fuck off.
Anonymous No.723784953 [Report]
It wont mean lower prices and AAA games arent worth playing so the power is wasted.
Unless you're a slop prompter then fair enough.
Anonymous No.723784960 [Report]
>>723784801
not that poster, but you could buy a GT710 with 4GB of ram.
Why? Who knows, but they made them.
I remember because I laughed at them a decade ago.
https://www.amazon.com.au/GeForce-GT-710-Graphics-Consumption/dp/B0BVVFPDMH
Anonymous No.723784996 [Report]
>>723784898
Your GPU doesn't go above the socket moron.
>bbut you don't have a large GPU
I have a larger GPU than you.
Anonymous No.723785059 [Report]
>>723773201 (OP)
can't wait for udna! amd gonna kill nvidia with their $50 discount, let's go team green!