Thread 723777585

The best FPS games ever made, such as Call of Duty MWII, Battlefield 3 and Halo etc. were about tactics and map knowledge not zooming around like a faggot and grinding hundreds of hours practising bunnyhopping and training aimlabs. Movement sucks and is super noskillz. Only ADHD zoomers and retarded boomers nostalgic about noring garbage like quake or unreal thinks otherwise

>movement in fps is cringe! just dont move! reeee
get better material OP

>>723777856
dilate

>seconda hand opinion piece from youtube
why do you worship those actors? Even muslims aren't that fanatical about their prophets.

>>723777856
Call of Duty isn't Unreal Tournament

>>723777585 (OP)
you're preaching to children that the systems they grew up with are worse than the ones you grew up with
this sort of approach never works
what generation do you think lurks /v/ primarily?

the people who were not even teenagers when the first wave of modern movement slop came out are now adults today (titanfall)
things will only get more spastic as AD(H)D becomes more common from chemical-poisoned diets becoming normalized and more children are raised on 8 tabs of midrotting youtube

buckle up!

ummm codsisters? what is this???

>>723779150
translation: bro got spawntrapped in every lobby back in the day and couldnt do anything against it due to being a shitter

>>723779017
OP is a fucking kid. He's talking about about cancer like Halo and MW2, which ruined FPS games forever, and turned it into something for spastic adhd kids.

>>723777585 (OP)
I won't ever touch Niggerfield 6.
But calling Quake garbage......
>Filtered

>>723779329
I'm a millenial you faggot, and I hate zoom zooms like you for ruining perfectly good games like cod and bf. Go back to playing ultrakill or whatever tranime indieslop shooter you niggers praise

>>723779698
Quake is garbage that's why it's dead and only remembered by basement dwelling 40 year old virgins like you

>>723779830
>ruining perfectly good games like cod and bf.
It was ruined by millennial devs lol

>>723779831
I kneel you completely destroyed me with facts and logic.
Btw I don't like excessive movementslop either.

>>723779329
>Halo and MW2
That was 20+ years ago you autistic shitskin nigger worshipper. Are people going to keep saying this exact shit in 10 years???

>>723777585 (OP)
movement has to add to the gameplay, most additional movement options in modern games only detract from actual gameplay

>>723777585 (OP)
>people devote hundreds of hours refining this skill so it’s noskillz

>>723777585 (OP)
why the fuck is buzzcut being used for the thumbnail?

>>723780523
>xhe doesn't knows

>>723777585 (OP)
Didn't /v/troons spend years jerking off about how epic quake was for shooting the ground to move faster?

>>723780202
>2009 was 20+ years ago

>>723780682
Oh no... They didn't.....

>>723780748
why did you post a picture of yourself, you realise doxxing is against the rules here?

>>723777585 (OP)
Fair enough if that also means keeping those games controller-only since it keeps everyone playing with the same toolset, and soldiers don't plan their tactics around being able to make multiple 180° snapshots a minute.

>>723777585 (OP)
Movement in cawadoody sucked because of analog stick faggotry. People didn't like dolphin diving, because they were suddenly being asked to rapidly move their view downward to hit a narrower target in a system that was almost entirely optimized around slowly panning the camera around with the analog stick.
Movement shooters still suck, because they're still played by analog stick FPS subhumans, meaning that small radial inaccuracy incurred by the mover is compensated by aim assist and large radial inaccuracy incurred by the stationary target isn't.

>>723780682
I wish they would at least dress them in uniforms

>>723777585 (OP)
>The best FPS games ever made
>such as Call of Duty MWII, Battlefield 3 and Halo
Immediately kill yourself for the sake of humanity

who even cares? 99% of cod players are console niggers with aimbot. none of this matters

>>723781552
>console niggers with aimbot
skill issue

people bitch about new shit in games yet still play them. why don't they go back to those "old" games?

>>723779831
the multiplayer is but the single player isn’t

>>723781807
its rarely in the nature of bitching to tackle the problem being yapped about

>>723779304
You are so fucking mad (also bad)

>>723777585 (OP)
I just wanna hide under a truck

>>723777585 (OP)
mw2 was full of tactical knife marathon zoomers

>>723782368
didnt you go with the tired "codsisters" meme a post ago? seems like you are the mad one, sorry you got spawnraped in the dark year of 2011

>>723777585 (OP)
old cod players were raging at quickscopers and drop shotters. theyre just casual retards getting stomped and complaining

>>723780202
cod hasn't changed in 16 years yet people keep buying the ultra hard on edition for 100$ yearly.

>>723781364
these same faggots are the reason why the steam controller failed and we haven't gotten any progress with touchpad controls.

>>723783452
The main problem with quickscoping on consoles was that it wasn't a "skill" thing, it was more like exploiting the built-in aimbot, and dropshotting was exploiting the bad hitboxes and working "around" the aimbot. On PC they weren't really a problem because quickscoping was just having good aim and reaction times, and dropshotting didn't really impart much of an advantage.

>>723777585 (OP)
>Call of Duty MWII, Battlefield 3 and Halo etc. were about tactics and map knowledge not zooming around like a faggot
lmao no

>For years this board shat their collective pants over anything that wasn't Quake, Unreal Tournament or even build engine games, saying that slow shooters sucked ass
>Suddenly, movement in shooters got popular again, even the slow shooters started to adopt some movement
>Suddenly, there are people now saying stupid shit like "no one ran in Doom, that game was played slowly" when there are fucking par times encouraging you to go fast
The retardation of this board is astounding sometimes.
>They are obviously different posters
No shit? It's still an interesting trend to notice.

>>723777585 (OP)
>The best FPS games ever made, such as Call of Duty MWII, Battlefield 3 and Halo
Kids really post this kind of shit here with a straight face

>>723777585 (OP)
Unc be malding cause he can't keep up, fr no cap

>>723784360
kys zoom zoom, cod used to be kino until SBMM zoomers and sweats ruined it like everry game out there, go back to playing overwatch and fortnite

>>723784360
What FPS are better though?
>Muh Arena
If Quake was so good, why is NO ONE playing it?

>first match of Battlefield 6, a week after it came out
>know that I'm a bit late to the party
>see that wielding your melee weapon makes you move faster
>Conquest where you won't even need to shoot any time soon
>pull out knife and start rushing to the objectives
>realize I'm all alone
>look back
>my entire team is slowly running along with their guns out
why

>>723784421
>sweats
the term is "tryhard" newfaggot

>>723777585 (OP)
I stopped playing after the first blops game. I also only ever played Bad Company 2. These shooters have never been the same since those days.

>>723784443
well i do nobody else does, still looking for quake champions duelmates

>>723784193
It really do be like that. At least those annoying arenafags aren't so loud now.

>>723777585 (OP)
You don't know what you're talking about. The crazy movement of modern CoD IS bad but it's because it's a console shooter. There's an arms race between the movement mechanics and the strength of the auto aim that turns gameplay into slop. That's the entire issue. With slow, deliberate movement targets become easier to hit with less aim assist on analogs.
None of this would be a problem on mkb or gyro but you disgusting console retard rat niggers will never understand.

>>723784193
Who are these people you're talking about? Are they in the room with us right now?
Doom was so fucking fast but it also had auto aim so hitting dudes running around at highway speeds wasn't actually that challenging.

>>723777585 (OP)
K console kid

>>723785045
and? quake had autoaim?

Waah waah! I'm no longer in the target market for this factory product
>kys

>>723784193
>20 years and 700 million posts is the same person!
imagine being this profoundly retarded

Moving around autistically actually felt and looked good in quake, all that momentum and shit.
In cod the advanced movement looks like a poorly coded game during a speed speedrun with bugs

>>723784421
>zoom zoom
Nigger, do you see the shit you're posting

>>723785183
cod maps and weapons weren't probably designed with fast movement in mind

>>723777585 (OP)
millenials and retarded opinions, name a more iconic duo

Us boomers to let go of COD
It now belongs to the zoomers

>>723784443
Day of Defeat

>>723784443
>high playercount == GOOD
Literally unironically reddit

>>723785259
>Franchise only has two good games and an expansion, then coasts on it for 20+ years
Sad

>>723785169
I addressed that point, nigger.

>>723777585 (OP)
>The best FPS games ever made, such as Call of Duty MWII, Battlefield 3 and Halo etc.
Bit too on the nose innit

>>723784193
"Doom was played slowly" is an idea as ancient as Doom itself, you tard. Lots of people played in with keyboard controls and never knew you could use a mouse.

>>723777856
>in gunfight
>wavedash around like an anime character while spraying and praying while using a Nikki Minaj skin and a neon pink gun
This is fucking gayer than gay sex. This franchise used to be about soldiers in war.

>>723784443
>no one can actually name better FPS franchises
lol, lmao, LAMO even

>>723785438
>niggerspeak

>>723785473
You already did yourself

>>723778781
this is satire right? like they don't think their zoomer casualized dogshit is "classic" fps gameplay do they?

>>723785486
u wot m8

>>723785473
>>no one can actually name better FPS franchises
see >>>>723784571

>>723785486
>briticisms = niggerspeak
Are you stupid or are you stupid

>>723779830
>1996 cusper calls himself a millennial

>>723785507
>>723785543
>mandem you peng innit bruv, senpai?
kys nigger

why are shitllenials obsessed with zoomerDEITIES?

>>723785183
Quake has far better movement than any modern shooter. Clearly programmed with the idea of the player as a physical presence in mind and not simply as a camera on wheels vehicle for clicking on enemies. Took me two weeks to recreate it.

remove ADS from games, its cancer that ruins gameplay loops and encourages camping

Something like TF2 is perfect movement: Quake like zipping around on certain classes but foot slogging on others.

>>723785130
It did, yes.

people used to shit on COD movement back in the day. there were entire marketing campaigns build around how bad it is (look up Duty Calls)

>>723781807
gamers are retarded and think a new game coming out with a bigger number makes the old game with the smaller number obsolete

>>723785662
Not to mention when Doom 4 gameplay was first leaked people were mocking it by calling it "Call of Doom".

>>723777585 (OP)
>The best FPS games ever made
>Call of Duty MWII, Battlefield 3 and Halo
lol kys

>>723785594
>thinks briticisms are niggerspeak
>uses kys

>>723785648
kys shitllenial consolenigger subhuman

>>723785781
>slangs used by niggers and low IQ 15 year olds in london
>"""briticism"""

>>723777585 (OP)
>grinding hundreds of hours practising bunnyhopping and training aimlabs
No one actually does this. It's just scripts and bots

>>723785861
You're clearly the cultural expert, aren't you?
kys baka senpai bix nood *grabs dick*

>>723784375
The closer to realism the game is, the harder you will lose, zoomtard. Your world is fake.

I always thought movement based FPS was a millennial thing, considering they grew up in the 90's, whereas zoom-zooms grew up playing cawadooty

>>723786037
When zoomies say "movement-based FPS" they mean CoD with diving and spinning

>>723785816
That's rich considering that Quake wasn't on any consoles until the Saturn. Original Quake had auto aim.

>>723781807
old call off duty is compromised (on pc) and the devs dont give a shit.
you literally cant join a multiplayer game without the high risk of "hackers" fucking your shit up with ace/rce

>>723786153
Yep. Because they have extreme ADHD and can't focus on anything from more than one second. That's why the closer the game is to a military simulation the harder they lose at it. They live in a false reality in the further away from reality and into silly stupid shit it is, the more they love it.

>>723777585 (OP)
don't care much about the sliding stuff, but bf6 would have been better if there was inertia and you couldn't turn on a dime, especially after already being hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoZKl1nqdMQ

we need to go back and we need leaning back too

FPS peaked with Unreal Tournament. Halo's sluggish movement designed for the poor aim of controllers is what destroyed them.
Unreal Tournament guys made Warframe which was too successful for them to make anything since. 10/10 movement but technically it is third person and it ignores pvp; which is why it is the only game with a helpful community.
Modern FPS won't ever be good because their goal is not to be good but to extract money.

>>723786949
You don't need ADHD to use basic movement tech. You're just coping faggot.

>>723788401
Halo was good precisely because it didn't try to be a PC FPS on console. The problems came when CoD did just that and was successful. Crossplay drove the final nail in the coffin.

>>723784193
failed normalfags from faceberg who peaked in high school back in the early 2010s took over the site and nigger retards like OP and his ilk legitimately thinking MW2 and BF3 were some incredible zenith of gaming and not consolized 7th gen trash are the result

>>723777585 (OP)
>best FPS games ever made, such as Call of Duty MWII, Battlefield 3 and Halo etc
LMAO

the funniest thing about failed normalfag codniggers like OP is that they don't realize that half of the shit they cry about with movement and specially movement speed is actually due to the cancerous default FOV settings from the 7th gen getting dropped this gen, console trash shooters used to have the default FOV of 55-65 even on pc which would make the games feel much slower than they actually were and it made these stupid niggers actually believe this was normal and good, now shooters, even on console, let you change your FOV and come with a higher FOV by default, which mindbreaks the nostalgic codnigger

Kill yourself OP
>best FPS ever made
Would be TimeSplitters 2 you faggot.

>>723786949
>cod
>close to reality
do millenials really

>>723786949
>CoD
>BF
>close to a military simulation
7th gen babies truly are the biggest retards

wonder if in 10 years zoomies will be crying about fortnite season 47 being ass and seething about gen alpha playing their skibidi simulators

>>723777585 (OP)
All low ttk full auto assault rifle shooters are the same flavour of utter fucking dogshit

>>723784469
I don't want to engage in mechanics I don't like.

>>723777585 (OP)
Quake, Team Fortress 2 and Titanfall 2 are examples of FPS games that are amazing precisely because they have great movement.

CoD's issue is not movement, CoD's issue is the absolutely absurd amount of shit happening on screen at any moment. It all went to shit back when the matches became an ADHD-inducing barrage of killstreak abilities and shit.

Also, Halo sucks ass.

>>723787262
Zoomers were a mistake

why do cuckllenials blame dumb shit they did 15 years ago on zoomers lmao

>dives/slides/vaults/etc
Just give me a faster base movement speed instead of all this garbage.

The Call of Duty series are actually really well designed games. It's a shame that its playerbase is such as it is because it leads to many people, players and devs alike, being dismissive of its design because it's just seen as "the normie popular shooter" and it's become taboo to copy features or design styles from it. See BF6 for a recent example of a game being ragged on for "turning itself into Call of Duty".
Despite this fact, I firmly believe most modern FPS games would benefit greatly from taking inspiration from CoD. They just have to skip the part where Activision weaponizes the developers competence to make them competently develop money making features instead of fun making features, so to speak.

maybe the optimal amount of speed to move at is ... real life

>>723777585 (OP)
You have movement shooters, and you have whatever the opposite is. If a series is known to be a movement shooter and it becomes slow as molasses in its next iteration, it's entirely reasonable to be upset about it. The reverse is, of course, also true.

is /v/ full of shitters?

>>723777585 (OP)
Both can exist. Also no COD has had more movement than quake. It's just that the TTK in COD is too low, so it rewards movement and reaction over skill.

>>723777585 (OP)
If you actually play CoD, you'd know camping is the most powerful playstyle. I suspect OP wants to move around but can't keep because of his slow reaction speed so he blame it on movement and muh realism.

>>723777585 (OP)
the movement is simply made in the shittiest way possible so it broke the game from the devs being shit at being game developers
if diving didnt give you momentum out of thin air, wasnt faster than sprinting, didnt change hitboxes/have pseudo invincibility frames, have a penalty for flopping in certain ways and made fall damage happen sooner (belly flop on the ground with ceramic plates IRL and you will fucking knock the wind out of yourself if not break your ribs, and also fucking crack the shit out of your plates if not break them, making them less effective) there would be zero fucking problems with (((movement)))

True
Someone should make a PvP on-rails shooter.

>>723777585 (OP)
fps games are low quality products meant to be produced and sharted out as fast as possible by corporations, notice how almost every FPS is made by a large corporation?
some hallmarks include:
>point and click non-gameplay
>literally default shit gameplay built into Unreal Engine it's so easy to make
>low effort designs including men with no hair and generic modern day assets that can be cobbled together by any Indian/Chinese third party studio
>uninspired lame generic military camo armor and clothes easier to design than even horrorslop
>movement? wasd. camera? locked to first person so you don't have to model a player character or animations or rpg aspects for them
>balance? short ranged rapid fire point and clicker, long ranged slow fire point and clicker, medium ranged medium fire point and clicker, shortish rage rapid fire super long reload point and clicker, ok balance done.
>enemy design? they point and click at you and stand in place or strafe, or melee guys that jump at you ok enemies done ship it. goty inc

Skill issue.

>>723793027
wtf???

>>723777585 (OP)
the best FPS games ever made, such as quake and unreal tournament, require you to do everything you listed at the same time
tactics, positioning, map awareness, map rotation, reflexes, speed, precision

>>723793153
sometime in the last 2 weeks AI videos became incredibly convincing

>>723777585 (OP)
LMAO IMAGINE BEING SO BAD YOU CALL PRACTICE BAD

>>723793223
>aim 3 feet bellow the enemy
>WHY AM I NOT HITTING?

>>723777585 (OP)
the best FPS game ever made is Quake 3 Arena
other FPS games are as good as close they are to Quake 3 Arena

>>723784443
>>723784443
Because there's no aim assist and it has high ttk.

So games like cod bf they have low ttk which makes the game easier for tards. No matter how much you suck you eventually get the drop on someone and kill them. The worse play can spawn with a shotgun and eventually get a kill just by running around.

In quake that's not happening the skill ceiling is to high, even if you get a jump on someone that doesn't mean shit

I know that's a bait but I wish CoD and BF were as fast paced as counter strike or even arma.
If I want to play UT or Quake, I'd play UT or Quake.

>>723777585 (OP)
FPS games are cringe in general

>realize no FPS game I've significantly played is newer than 2012
>they were mostly games that don't fit the FPS norm like Chivalry, Tribes Ascend, and singleplayer/coop games like Fallout New Vegas and Killing Floor
>only online FPS game I still play is TF2
Do I just not like tge genre or did something in the industry change?

>>723777585 (OP)
Movement and aiming are cringe, unless you are playing 1v1 duels in arena shooters. In CoD, you shouldn't be trading shots in the first place. You should be getting the drop on people, killing them before they get a shot off, and moving on to the next kill so you can build up towards your killstreaks.

>>723795383
The only FPS that caught my eye in the last decade was The Finals, and it's only because of the destruction element making it one of the most dynamic games I've played in the genre.

ITT nigger babies playing on controller

The fact that no one has correctly identified aim assist as the reason modern shooters feel like shit to move in is proof that you're all controller users.

You don't want to acknowledge the fact that half the game is played for you, so you focus on the half that you do ""play"" by spazzing out like a 70 iq ipad baby on the analog sticks.

Movement in these games is piss easy. Let me know when you controller niggers can play a game with rocket jumping.

>>723796439
I wont be happy until 100% of the game is played for me, I'm looking forward to the time when copilot AI is able to play these shitty FPS games and watching you getting recked by my bot while I have a wank.

Instant-TTK shooters were a mistake
>bullet hoses are now OP with only difference being slight number tweaks to accuracy
>shotguns, snipers, melee, rocket launchers, grenades etc all have to be one shot kill gimmick weapons
>movement is about shaking your character model as violently as possible, instead of navigating quickly to chase, escape, or get to objectives
>if you see an enemies back, you've won
>if you see an enemy, one of you are dead within 0.3 seconds, so you can never see where enemies are, so you can never strategize about where enemies are

bump

>/v/ pretending it ever liked or cared about CoD
I'm old enough to remember when FPS games were considered normalfag central

>>723780202
Until a better game comes along yes. Sorry zoomies you'll have to do better than fortnite and battleshit 6gorillion.

>>723789041
you can tell just how much of a normalfag someone is whenever they talk about call of duty. if their favourite title is anything other than modded 1 or 2 on PC, they're a normalfag.

>>723785335
>1, 2, MW1, WaW
?

>>723785645
but wouldnt the characters that can zoom zoom around the map be overpowered?

>>723801554
nta but if you want serious answers they are when there's no people in the game

>>723801060
>Call of Duty German Front
Yep, this is where the series peaked.

>>723785978
>The closer to realism the game is, the harder you will lose, zoomtard
what the fuck are you talking about boomer?

>>723805013
boomers don't play slop like cod, it's a m*llenial with shit taste

bumpin

Why do so many CoD players hate it when you use snipers as intended or do anything that isn't just run and gun assault rifling?

>>723777585 (OP)
So...this game? Not the 2009 installment?