Thread 723785481

Are there other video game series that have been completely ruined by being popular?

probably hundreds if not thousands

HEY YOU!

Literally any game

dark souls

Every single one.

>popular games are le bad!
What kind of new cope is this?

>>723785481 (OP)
>Infinite Wealth was shit
>Kiwami 3 is shit
>The only good title its Kiryu Gaiden

Yakuzabros...

Monster Hunter
Dark Souls

>>723785481 (OP)
Im sorry to whoever decreeted that Yakuza 0 its the best one in the series (hiveminded redditors) but it is not

Thank you for you attention to this matter

Yokoyama needs to step down
I'm tired of constant remakes and Ichiban garbage

>>723785481 (OP)
series peaked at 5 anything after is worthless

>>723785481 (OP)
GTA

Been having a blast playing infinite wealth, the gameplay is way better than 7.

>Judgment has better combat system
>it introduced more core gameplay changes
>all yakuza games became literal asset flips played and praised by redditors
>stranger than heaven is "new IP" thats also just yakuza design template 1:1 but with new assets
RGG cant make good games anymore and cant design anything different too. Why would they challenge themselves anyways since redditors will dame dane le le buy their asset flips full price anyways.

>>723785481 (OP)
Monster Hunter got ruined when it got popular in the west.

>>723785481 (OP)
Pic unrelated. Yakuza is not and likely never will be popular or mainstream. The shift in quality is entirely on the developers and it's really just the story.

>>723788928
>Yakuza is not and likely never will be popular or mainstream
Nigger what? Even normgroids know about this IP now lmao

>>723789370
Get some actual normiecore friends and ask them about Yakuza and they're not gonna know wtf you're talking about.

>>723789620
NTA, Whenever I've brought them up to normies they know what I'm talking about.

>>723789725
And what faggot country is this, faggot countryman?

>>723789753
USA, Ohio

>>723785481 (OP)
Yakuza wasn't ruined by popularity, it was ruined by 95% of the games being shit.

>>723785481 (OP)
Pokémon
Perfect example of why becoming popular can be a horrible thing for quality of games.

>>723788452
GTA was always popular.

>>723785481 (OP)
Resident evil, it was popular, but now it's like a zombie thing because it doesn't matter how bad the new games are, you will buy them, you will hype them, you will order 100500 lewd mods for them and arts

>>723791873
Pokémon was always popular.

>>723795693
Yes it was always shit.

>>723793706
And now it's more popular....hence it being ruined now. Retard.

>>723785481 (OP)
name one that HASN'T been ruined by becoming popular.

Anon it took years just to get a release of a mainstream title outside of Japan and Nagoshi was using it to embezzle money before 0. It's also actually not popular at all. We saw in leaks the games don't even sell three million copies. Gaiden sold like 300k worldwide. What exactly are you bitching about, people on Reddit saying Kiryu is a trans ally or something?

>>723796024
>it doesn't count when it was popular then
Do you know understand the what the word "popular" means?

>>723796456
>Do you know understand
Hello ESL

>>723796206
Seriously, old Persona re releases outsell mainline games by a lot. Old Sonic ports sell more. Frankly I'm surprised Sega cares so much about the series, I can only guess that Western meme culture keeps it alive because sales sure don't.

>>723785481 (OP)
>Ruined by being popular
Translation from gay to English:
>I can't pretend to be an enlightened patrician with tastes far above those of the masses now that normalfags also like the series

>>723797370
Simple typing error, as you damn fine well know.
>thread asking about niche series that became popular
>post a series that has always been popular
You didn’t even understand the thread.

>>723798341
Where did OP say anything about a niche series retard?

>>723798341
>>723798781
>>723797594
I can smell the disgusting foreign food from these posts.

>>723798867
Hello brown retard.

>>723799338
Neither of the PS2 games are bad

>>723785540
This.
The better question OP could ask:

>Are there any video game series that haven´t been completely ruined by being popular?
And I cannot find one example.

In short:

Popularity = Sloppification

>>723785774
MhWilds (before it, World)
DS3
do you need further proof?
>inb4 whats wrong with them anon, they are good games
if you really think this, you´re a sloploving normiecattle.

>>723793706
GTA reached mass popularity with SA. Before that, it was popular among gamers but nothing else. Before 3 it wasn´t even a known series.
This is also why most people agree on GTA becoming shit somewhere between 3 and 4.

>>723785481 (OP)
street fighter, guilty gear, tekken
most of them really

>>723799338
the ps2 games are a lot better than shit like kiwami 2 or pirate yakuza

>>723785481 (OP)
>I make a thread
>get bullied
>OP makes this low effort garbage
>45+ posts, likely received personal private bumping from janny, OP on track for Board President in the next year, everyone in this thread “mysteriously” given four months of 4chan pass free
Hmm, I wonder how things work around here.

>>723802834
There’s nothing wrong with kiwami 2 you stupid Reddit parrot bitch
Get actual taste and opinions, it’s incredible how hard people out themselves with such a dogwater take as “muh kiwami bad le xd”
Like shut the fuck up, what an absolute waste of thread space

>>723803189
Take your meds schizotranny.

>>723785481 (OP)
Every single franchise but this one is still good
>>723785736
IW is the best JRPG ever made and Kiwami 3 only sucks because it doesnt have hostess manager minigame

>>723785550
/sreado

>>723803293
>>There’s nothing wrong with kiwami 2
>Cut out Shinseicho and replaced it with an NPC complaining it's not there.
>Because they cut that out you also lose the riddle in the tower to find the Jingweon survivor and now chase NPCs around Sotenbori trying to find "Santa" before doing a shogi puzzle.
>Takashima being old means his character makes no sense.
>Cut YF6 which only appeared in 2 to replace it with VF2.
>Cut out The Marietta and replaced it with Four Shine even though every single game after 2 has the Marietta in it.
>Cut Club Adam despite Kiryu outright talking about it in 3 and now 7G when he never did it in K2.
>Cut out many substory locations which means that many substories that would take place in unique parts of the map now take place in generic apartment buildings or on the streets which also affects Amon.
>Amon's substory makes no sense with 0 and K1.
>DoD isn't 2's, it's 6's.
>All of the bosses have different movesets to the ones they had in 2 which also means Majima has his slow moveset from 5 onward instead of the good one from 1 and 2.
>Jo Amon's moveset isn't even remotely close to the one in 2 and he's missing multiple different weapons he only had in 2.
>Bounce blocking ruining combat because it's 6's.
>Because the game has the Dragon Engine inventory system the entire finale is ruined as you have an infinite amount of supplies and like 20 free weapons when the entire point of the final gauntlet and boss fights was to attrite you of your healing items, force you to use enemy weaponry as you defeated them along the way due to durability loss, and end up at Ryuji 3 with like one or two healing items and a single weapon.
>Add in Majima Saga which has Majima outright contradicting 5 to push Makoto x Majima despite 5 having already happened in the timeline when this whole thing happens.
>Pink Alley is now gone and Little Asia is there because Kamurocho is 6's but then they don't add the park to Sotenbori from 5.
>No fart bomb hoodies.

>>723803189
What thread?

>>723804402
>contradicting 5
Good, 5 is absolute dogshit writing-wise and should be memory holed alongside every entry in this flanderized series except for 0, 1, and 2.

>>723803293
>There’s nothing wrong with kiwami 2 you stupid Reddit parrot bitch
another anon already posted most of it but there is objectively a ton of shit wrong with kiwami 2 as a remake. the block bouncing is aids. the enemy movesets are slapped together shit. kiryu feels like he's on xans until you grind for all the retarded upgrade point shit at which point you have a one move infinite loop that full combos the final boss. and even then the combat is still awkward and limited.
yakuza 2 is technical and fun. it's a perfect sequel, taking everything that was good about the previous and supercharging it. kiwami 2 isn't even a good game, let alone a good remake.
>Get actual taste and opinions, it’s incredible how hard people out themselves with such a dogwater take as “muh kiwami bad le xd”
kiwami 1 is actually a very good game. it's the only time they got style switching working in a way that feels natural and encourages using the full moveset all the time.
it's still a lazy asset flip and the story changes are all major downgrades but oh well

>>723803610
>IW is the best JRPG ever made
Holy keke. Story is beyond garbage and gameplay is just Y7, which already was one of the worst JRPGs made, but a bit better.

Literally the only good ones are 1, 2 (Restored patches) and 0.

>>723796206
Goddammit SEGA! Akiyama Gaiden when?!!

>>723788382
based truth poster

Give me a full game of just Haruka and Akiyama's Yakuza 5 story (and make it good obviously) and I'll never say a bad word about Sega ever again.

>>723803293
Kiwami 2 is fucking dogshit, they were so fucking lazy they couldn't even be bothered to complete 1 of the 2 areas.

>>723785481 (OP)
Strange how almost every series before it got popular had dogshit game design/ mechanics and with the popularity the devs were forced to actually make a good not retarded game. Are we really pretending y1-5 wasn't utter dogshit?

>>723806820
5 is my favorite game in the series and I've played all the mainline entries and even the PSP ones.

>>723788382
6 is better than 5. The plot anyway.

>>723788382
5 is bloated garbage with one of the worst plots I've ever seen

1 and 2 were very good PS2 brawlers. 3 through 5 were all flawed in ways that stopped them from being great. 0 is the best game in the series and nothing that's come out since has been able to top it.

>>723807263
The plot hinges on you being retarded and forgetting past games.

Why doesn't anyone ever mention the florist?
Where the fuck is Komaki?
Why does Akiyama fall to some random triad? In the previous game he brings down half the yakuza by kicking them.
Why does Haruka fuck this random dollar store shenmue looking guy? With no condom? Let him do it inside? Did she not think after her first missed period she could get an abortion?

6 ruined Haruka forever.

>>723807263
6 was worse because the retarded Daidoji plotline keeps coming back in every new game

>>723807852
Haruka inherited making absolutely retarded decisions from her mother, unfortunately

>>723807852
If only there was a reason Haruka didn't want to get an abortion when she had sex with some organized crime thug and got pregnant. Huh. A mystery.

>>723807656
why do people suck off 0? the plot is bad fan fiction rehashing every event from yakuza 1 and 2 but much worse. majima is designed like complete ass. the style switching functionally gives you 3 shit movesets and you can't even switch unless you fully reset to neutral to pop the stupid stance animation, or get the quick change clothes which they just forgot to give majima and which are clearly a jank half-assed band-aid solution. any combat depth from 3 and 4 is completely removed as bosses can 180 spin around to counter you if you dare attack them twice instead of dark souls roll slopping around their telegraphed moves. any meaningful opportunities you would get from a prequel, like expanding on extremely thin characters nishiki, yumi, reina or shintaro, are skipped over since they either don't exist or get the briefest cameo. those wacky writers of course managed to slap baby ryuji in and redo the fucking virtua cop shooting mission though. kiryu and majima are portrayed like marvel heroes fighting for justice which is completely incongruous with their portrayal at the start of yakuza 1 where they're both psychopaths. and the money grind sucks balls.
is it just nostalgia goggles?

>>723807852
>Did she not think after her first missed period she could get an abortion?
Yeah that really would have redeemed her character.
Minor plot holes aren't what make things good or bad

>>723808539
It would have actually, she'd be able to course correct. Now she's stuck with bottom string thug and their kid forever.

>minor
Not including the florist is not a minor plothole. It's a plot chasm.

>>723808347
>Yakuza 0
>nostalgia
nani the fuck

>>723809195
Ten years post release made you fucking nostalgic

>>723809435
>2015
>nostalgia
You fucking daft cunt.

>>723808347
>why do people suck off 0
because its good and doesn't have dogshit story and gameplay

>25 minutes of extra cutscenes
The Yakuza 0 director's cut is going to suck, isn't it?

>>723809524
People were nostalgic for 2005 in 2015.

>>723810384
What were they, toddlers?

>>723810232
It's a completely pointless version you shouldn't buy outside of completion's sake. Every new cutscene just ruins something with the sole exception of them turning Kuze's final discussion into a cutscene rather than an in-game discussion. They even ruined the font and those picture scenes. You don't get better visuals, you don't get anything really refined, you don't get the Walkman at all, and the new cutscenes just ruin the story.

>>723810432
If you saw how utterly gay everything became in 2008 and then how awful the rise of the smartphone and social media was in the 10s, you'd understand

>>723810715
Actually, yeah, fair point.