Thread 723787167

>grandmother series of metroidvanias(duh)
>Heavily awaited sequel of a praised trilogy
>8 years wait between teaser and release
>Comes out in 2 months
>Nobody cares and talks about the bug metroidvania instead
What the fuck went so wrong for this game?

>there's no... le hype!!!
dilate

I have not even played the past Prime games and this one is for a console that I don't own and has no games that I'm interested in

>>723787224
dilate you retarded shill

Whatever footage leaked or showed with the "open world" motorcycle is really not looking good. This looks like a shovelware with the name attached to it, that will be paid more attention to than the usual shovelware because of the name, and will may be given the benefit of doubt and overlooked things that normal games would be heavily criticized for due to the Nintendo bias, but that's it.

Dread was shit, why should anyone be hyped for this after the shitty trailer?

>>723787167 (OP)
Hollow Knight sold five times as much as the best-selling Metroid game and Silksong also outsold the latter in less than a week, it's a niche franchise and so is Castlevania despite them giving the name to an extremely popular genre nowadays.

REMINDER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJNCNswbdG0

>>723787167 (OP)
Somehow Keeper, the little side game by Double Fine that just released, made a more hype and fun Morphball level+boss than Nintendo ever managed.
Doesn't help with my zero hype I had for this.

>>723787380
>n-no u!!!
indian wit

We haven't seen anything interesting. The graphics looks dated by today's standards which is the opposite of how Prime was industry-leading at launch. The psychic abilities are whatever since she already had upgrades that more or less fulfilled the same purposes and the sandbox motorbike looks like a mandatory addition from a bunch of suits looking at graphs from BotW. They managed to push away new gamers with the game's dated look and veterans with the out-of-place gimmicks.

>>723787627
dilate you retarded pajeet

>new nintendo exclusive gets shitposted by terrified jeets
find some new material

>>723787167 (OP)
prime is not the grandmother of metroidvania series

>>723787167 (OP)
I sleep. Call me when they announce Metroid 6 on Switch 2

>>723787632
>The graphics looks dated
Inevitable, it's a Switch 1 game that went through a cancellation and is coming out much later than intended. I think people will cut it some slack if the art design holds up and the Switch 2 version does its 4k and 120fps modes well.

>>723787167 (OP)
>implying anybody EVER had anything interesting to say about metroid
the series is just safe and boring, that's the issue. It has no hooks.

>>723787382
>shovelvare with name attached
So exactly like Bloodstained, Silksong and all of Elden Ring games?

Hollow Knight is the most prolific 2D soulslike, so it gets a lot of attention. Metroid has always been a moderate success but never that huge barring Super and Prime 1.
As for Prime 4 the shitty trailers and open world/hub/whatever have brought me down to nothing more than cautious optimism

>>723788172
I'm not following you. Bloodstained doesn't have the big name attached to it, it managed to be a relatively successful Castelvania clone without the Castlevania name.
Silksong I haven't played yet, but looking at reviews and opinions it is a good game that stands on its own. Regarding Elden Ring, if you mean Nightreign, then yes that is the closest to what you mean, but you didn't specifically say Nightreign so I'm not really sure what you are getting at to be honest.

>>723788369
hollow knight costs 15 bucks (even less with all the discounts it had) and was released on something like 6 different hardware, of course it's going to outsell metroid

man /v/trannies truly are desperate

This game is coming in 1.5 months and it feels like there is no marketing hype behind it nor is there any trailers beyond the few from the directs

>>723788556
the marketing for the game has undeniably been dogshit but I'm confident it'll be good to great

>>723788556
Nintendo has not given a fuck about this game at all. Even the latest trailer was just slopped out during a sizzle real then brushed aside. The DLC after it got more attention

>>723788626
I also believe (or at least hope) that it will be really good, but I holy fuck have they tried their hardest to make it look bad in the trailers. The first one was good, but the two that followed it have been complete dogshit

>>723787167 (OP)
The bike and open world are going to ruin this series like they did other Nintendo games.

>>723787167 (OP)
>Nobody cares
yet here you are

>>723788709
The open world stuff will probably be fine, but the way they presented it just made it seem boring and low effort

Metroid hasn't been relevant in over 20 years. So long that the 'metroidvania' genre naming really makes no fucking sense. Iga vania's had way more relevant titles but those were also basically 20 years ago.

>>723787334
Prime was great for the time for immersiveness, but like n64 games, the control is complete garbage that needs to be completely redone and the graphics don't hold up.

I don't want to see too much before release but it definitely needs a bit more. I'd like one of those ten-minute overview trailers.

>le open world
this board is 80 IQ on average and I'm being generous

>>723787632
>psychic abilities
Why the fuck does Nintendo keep doing this shit? Already ruined Zelda by making it some completely other game.

>>723789018
I take it back more like 60 IQ

>>723788958
Every accusation is a confession.

>>723789224
saaaar you told that bloody benchod!!

Why, exactly, should I be excited for it? It's made no effort to sell itself to me; to explain to me why it represents the next stage in the evolution of the Prime series and why it's worth playing over 1, 2 and 3. In fact, it has done the opposite; instead demonstrating that it has no creative vision of itself and that it is willing to mindlessly glom onto fads like open worldism. If it weren't nominally a Metroid game we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

>>723787167 (OP)
It's doing the ghostrunner 2 thing where suddenly you need an open world and a motorcycle with half-assed combat. It's a flop.

>>723787468
So metroidvanias are now hollowsongs?

I don't know about you guys but I'm having a blast.

>>723787167 (OP)
Prime 1 and 2 was very mediocre.
3 is fucking shit.

>>723788031
>if the art design holds up
nothing they've shown has inspired confidence on that front either

>>723788385
>bloodstained
directed by sotn guy
>silksong
sequel to hollow knight
>elden ring
sequel to dark souls and made by the souls guy

They all have big names attached to them.

Problem with the metroid series is that they don't got replayability
You play them, you find all the secrets, and then you move on with your life, at most you learn to speedrun it but the 2D games are much more interesting than the prime games
Hollow knight has the godhome dlc and various builds you can try for different playthroughs so every playthrough you do is different, so it's got more staying power even after you beat and 100% it

>>723788776
>The open world stuff will probably be fine
If you don't mind the main draws of the series being pushed aside to shamelessly court the BotW fanbase (who still won't buy it because they don't give a fuck about Metroid), then sure, it'll probably be fine.

>>723788172
hollow knight and silksong are both the most effortful and ambitious games of the last decade in the whole genre on a sheer gameplay and content department

>>723787167 (OP)
This is literally the only game I'm waiting on for the rest of the year.

fpbp

>>723790921
Hollow Knight doesnt have that much replayability itself, other than silksongs' alternate movesets. most people dont really actively replay or just try the steel soul thing
I think its lasting power comes from the fact its like 50 hours of quality content as opposed to a metroid game with a solid 6. And its just a much bigger package with a lot more different appeals and 999x more features and plot to discuss, find, miss, argue, like, bitch about, or remember 10 years after you played it

>>723790949
The thing is that we have no idea what really the "open world" segment is. It could just be a travel hub that barely matters, so if instead of traversing Magmoor caverns I have to drive around with a motorcycle, it's not a big deal

>>723787662
>>723787380
Fuck off street shitters

This game will be the final blackpill for shitch 2

>>723787167 (OP)
Nintendo is barely promoting this game. Its probably shit or at least a very mid Metroid game.
If it's worse than Dread, I would consider this franchise dead.

This could be the big breakout for the Metroid series, Switch 1 is outselling PS2, Switch 2 broke sales and MP4 coming out during the holidays. If this doesn't sell like 5 million or something I bet Nintendo will be disappointed. It might get a lot of newcomers and people who wanna see what the Switch 2 can do

>>723789912
Maybe, I think HK changed ( and improved) the usual formula to a point it's actually unfair in comparison.
What other Hollowsong game is out there? The only one I can think of that is slightly similar is Tunic, in the sense that you don't need most upgrades to beat the game and allow a bunch of sequence breaking.

>>723790106
You serious? the art direction looks great, it's very much in line with the way that environments from older Prime games look, the use of repeating patterns, emphasis on geometric motifs and then the destruction and overgrowth of that.

>>723791746
That temple looks like an onion with a vagina

>>723791681
This is Metroid, I just don't see this selling, look at DK Bananza, that game didn't sell particularly well, and DK is far more popular than Metroid.

>>723791784
>vaginal motifs in art
Oh no, it's happening again.

The hype train starts now.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/metroid-prime-1-3-a-visual-retrospective-artbook-arrives-on-oct-28/

>>723791681
>5 millions

Kek, if it sells more than 2 millions I will be very surprised.

>>723792264
>americans in charge of redrawing Zero Suit Samus
I now understand why she looked so weird in Prime 2.

>>723790921
it's insane how this jeet infested board manages to systematically post things that are the complete oppposite of reality

metroid is specifically designed to be replayed with incentives to finish the game quickly while hollow knight is a giant slog whose entire appeal is the sense of discovery of a first playthrough that makes replaying it completely pointless

then again it's normal a board populated by errors of nature would be consistently wrong

>>723787167 (OP)
baby's first fps

>>723787167 (OP)
it's going to be the best Metroid game easily

>>723792000
>DK Bananza, that game didn't sell particularly well

Says who? The game will have massive legs and its fully switch 2 exclusive so its capped at what it can sell.