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Anonymous No.723817771 [Report] >>723818134 >>723823184 >>723824060 >>723824736 >>723825830 >>723826050 >>723827373 >>723829513 >>723831963 >>723832918 >>723834004 >>723838421 >>723838912 >>723839013 >>723839509 >>723845690 >>723846998 >>723848287 >>723848752 >>723849592 >>723853332 >>723853414 >>723853631 >>723854465 >>723856107 >>723860874
The 3D remake on Steam/NDS is the definitive way to play Final Fantasy 4

>voice acted cutscenes
>better animations
>harder difficulty than the original, pixel remaster, and PSP port
Anonymous No.723818134 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
yep, it is kino
Anonymous No.723818223 [Report] >>723824427 >>723824917 >>723829595 >>723829735 >>723835736 >>723838864 >>723862291
There isn't a single game on the ds that is the "definitive" way to play anything.
Anonymous No.723818289 [Report] >>723818829 >>723854032
>Retarded augment system that requires you to read a guide to learn how it works and spoil the story for yourself so you know who will leave your party
Anonymous No.723818829 [Report] >>723819018 >>723853537
>>723818289
>couldn't figure out the Augment system
>is a retarded min/maxxer who needs a guide to play

I didn't do any of that and had a great time.
Anonymous No.723819018 [Report] >>723819656
>>723818829
Did you play the Steam release and pick hard? That is the original DS difficulty. If you use augments wrong the games difficulty goes way up.
Anonymous No.723819656 [Report] >>723820187 >>723831903
>>723819018
Yes. I won't pretend I didn't have trouble though. The dark elf fucker was a real nigger and the final boss nuked my party over and over until I gave up on reviving the party and just focused on keeping Kain and Cecil alive. Which in the end was kino because it felt kinda cinematic as gay as that sounds
Anonymous No.723820187 [Report] >>723820745
>>723819656
I remember ending up with Cecil and Kain, as well. Fuck Zeromus spamming that gay ass Big Bang.
Anonymous No.723820745 [Report] >>723821635
>>723820187
Based. I remember doing the boss fight for Kain's final lance upgrade and it wiped my entire party minus Kain, who sealed the fight with his Jump. Was Kino
Anonymous No.723821635 [Report] >>723835924
>>723820745
Nice. A few honorable mentions of other bosses that brutally molested me as a 12 year old, for whatever reason:
>Calcabrina
>Dr. Lugae
>CPU
Anonymous No.723823184 [Report] >>723823386 >>723823924
>>723817771 (OP)
>>harder difficulty than the original, pixel remaster,
Fuck, I got the pixel remaster thinking it was the closest to the original.
Anonymous No.723823386 [Report]
>>723823184
When people say "harder difficulty than the original" they mean it's actually a videogame. Meanwhile FF4 original is too fucking easy.
Anonymous No.723823924 [Report] >>723824560 >>723833769
>>723823184
Pixel Remaster is closer in difficulty to the original, but a bit easier.
The biggest difficulty nerf wasit takes half the exp to level up in the Pixel Remaster and the encounter rate was lowered.
You can set it to .5x exp and gil from the menu to make it closer to the original.
Anonymous No.723824060 [Report] >>723826662
>>723817771 (OP)
>no lunar ruins
>no superboss
>no party member switching
Don’t listen to op
Anonymous No.723824427 [Report]
>>723818223
Tetris (ds) and pokemon (hgss)
Anonymous No.723824560 [Report] >>723824823
>>723823924
>You can set it to .5x exp and gil from the menu to make it closer to the original.
Thanks for the tip, I was wondering why the only hangup I got in the game was the fucking needle hogs sniping me when I was mindlessly auto playing.
Anonymous No.723824601 [Report] >>723826168 >>723826992
I forgot how spineless this game gets around the later half. Can't even have the balls for a heroic sacrifice.
Anonymous No.723824736 [Report] >>723826992 >>723827051
>>723817771 (OP)
>voice acted cutscenes
no one asked for that
Anonymous No.723824823 [Report]
>>723824560
Its not like original FF4 was overly difficult in the first place, as long as you actually buy healing items.
Anonymous No.723824917 [Report] >>723860485
>>723818223
Chrono Trigger?
Anonymous No.723825539 [Report] >>723826992
Just make sure you're getting those ability things and don't miss them. I have to restart my save over because I missed a bunch.
Anonymous No.723825830 [Report] >>723826072
>>723817771 (OP)
i hate that version so much
the worst problem is the camera being zoomed in so much so you can only see a quarter of what you were intended to see. if you are supposed to see some area or a chest outside of the area then you are supposed to find a way to it. in that version you can't see it and never try to look. it is a surprisingly severe limiation
it is like playing a game and only being able to see 25% of the screen for the entire game
android/steam version was garbage for that reason alone
Anonymous No.723826050 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
3D version is one of my favourite RPGs
Anonymous No.723826072 [Report]
>>723825830
it is like 3/4 of the screen when you are walking around is hidden and you don't even know it. you just see the stuff right in the middle and then curse about how hard it is to navigate and how much you missed
Anonymous No.723826168 [Report]
>>723824601
>half of your party members are dead
>except no, they all come back for the final dungeon except for Tellah
Why
Anonymous No.723826662 [Report]
>>723824060
There's 2 superbosses you can only get in NG+
Anonymous No.723826992 [Report] >>723828813
>>723824601
Yeah it was pretty gay that almost no one actually stayed dead.

>>723824736
It helps sell the story more for a lot of people.

>>723825539
Just finish it and do NG+, there's 2 bosses you can only get in NG+ anyway.
Anonymous No.723827051 [Report]
>>723824736
I asked for that. Japanese voice acting is almost always kino and adds to the experience.
Anonymous No.723827373 [Report] >>723828587 >>723841648
>>723817771 (OP)
Kino remake.
https://youtu.be/Zst4NmN8KJA?si=056tr3Xi0eYmgHzu
Anonymous No.723828587 [Report] >>723829559
>>723827373
never actually saw any gameplay from the DS remake since i played the PS1 and GameBoy versions.
this is kino indeed. might have to check it out
Anonymous No.723828813 [Report] >>723828987 >>723829096
>>723826992
Hmm, didn't consider that I guess.I'm already past the tower of babel so I didn't really want to start over. I'll try that instead.

Also, for FF4 3d steam, What mods are yall using?
Anonymous No.723828825 [Report]
theres a million fucking versions of this mid game and literally all of them are missing something or fucked in some way. there is NO definitive version because SE after the merger is most retarded dev of all time, even worse than sega.
Anonymous No.723828987 [Report] >>723829582
>>723828813
Just the increase FPS in battles mod.
Anonymous No.723829096 [Report] >>723829582
>>723828813
Also I think you have to use Steal or something on the final boss to unlock the final superboss on the moon. Use a guide so you don't miss it
Anonymous No.723829513 [Report] >>723829648
>>723817771 (OP)
It's a shame we never got FFV and FFVI 3d lowpoly remakes. If they made them now it would be some sort of hideous "HD2D" mess.
Anonymous No.723829559 [Report]
>>723828587
It's nice way to enjoy 4. There are extra scenes and conversations that are enjoyable if you care about the characters. Whoever made the decision to have Kain voiced by Liam O'Brien deserved a raise.
Anonymous No.723829582 [Report]
>>723828987
>>723829096
thanks guys and gals
Anonymous No.723829595 [Report] >>723834004
>>723818223
Dragon Quest 5
Anonymous No.723829648 [Report] >>723829856
>>723829513
It would have been tight. And it's not like they require insane budgets. The DS remake of 3 saved that game's existence.
Anonymous No.723829735 [Report] >>723834004
>>723818223
TWEWY
Anonymous No.723829856 [Report] >>723829990 >>723830078 >>723830779
>>723829648
Speaking of which, what's the best ways to play V/VI?

I've been slowly playing through all the games in order.

BTW I don't know why everyone hates ii, I played it blind without /v/ input and was really surprised that everyone hates it. I really liked the characters
Anonymous No.723829990 [Report] >>723830109
>>723829856
for V, definitely GBA. Not sure on VI though. Maybe the PSX one? I remember FF Anthology being good, and it also has V. But GBA has the most stuff for V
Anonymous No.723830078 [Report] >>723830471
>>723829856
>what's the best ways to play V/VI?
pixel remaster with mods
Anonymous No.723830109 [Report]
>>723829990
Also, anthology had these kickass fmv cutscenes that were pretty dope for the time. But you can watch those on youtube, I'm sure.
Anonymous No.723830471 [Report] >>723832281
>>723830078
I should have specified aside from the Pixel Remasters. I just think they are ugly
Anonymous No.723830779 [Report] >>723831023
>>723829856
II, alongside IX, is my favorite FF. I played it on PS1 and PSP and fags can choke on a kiked cock.
Anonymous No.723831023 [Report]
>>723830779
>t.
Anonymous No.723831903 [Report] >>723832693
>>723819656
back on the SNES i was like Lv26ish, and my max HP was well below big bangs minimum damage.
my main strat was just jump with kain, if i survive big bang with him, rez rydia, and summon azura, and hope it was an AoE rez.
repeat.
billions of attempts later, won.

now on DS, everyones in the Lv90s range (didnt use augments, didnt bother looking into them either) and hes wiping the floor with me. thought about doing what you mentioned, since its easier to keep less people alive. (I soloed every boss as Cecil, except when required to use a gimmick for a boss, like jump. all the extra tools this version gives u make soloing so much fun)
Anonymous No.723831963 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
I'm open to the idea but I've been playing every final fantasy and I don't want to include the remakes/remasters so I have to tell you to fuck off because I'm not going back and playing the definitive versions of each game.
Anonymous No.723832173 [Report] >>723832906
PSP version of IV is the only classic FF that actually has appealing sprites.
I - V all look so fucking ugly (VI has a few decent shots) and the DS version of IV is somehow even uglier.
Anonymous No.723832281 [Report] >>723832804
>>723830471
that's the thing you can mod them to look like whatever you prefer
Anonymous No.723832693 [Report]
>>723831903
The secret sauce for me was to use either slow or spidersilk immediately, then just keep jumping with Kain and attacking/healing with Cecil. Don't bother keeping the others alive, he will just instanuke them before you can even use your mega elixer. Get off as much damage as you can with Edge and Rydia before they die and let them stay dead. Use Rosa to cast haste and shell before she goes down
Anonymous No.723832804 [Report] >>723833557
>>723832281
I'll check em out. Thanks
Anonymous No.723832906 [Report]
>>723832173
your face is ugly, all the classic FF look good and you're complaining for the sake of complaining. kill yourself retard
Anonymous No.723832918 [Report] >>723834380
>>723817771 (OP)
I wish there was a non-shitty way to play this. Battles are locked at like 15 FPS as far as I can tell. FF4 is one of my favorites.
Anonymous No.723832986 [Report] >>723833250
just dropped in this shitty thread to say I recently platinumed FF4 and I love the battle theme. Uematsu-senpai cooked with that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAIdFI8_Dok&list=RDWAIdFI8_Dok&start_radio=1&pp=ygUfZmY0IHBpeGVsIHJlbWFzdGVyIGJhdHRsZSB0aGVtZaAHAQ%3D%3D
Anonymous No.723833250 [Report]
>>723832986
Four Fiends is potentially my favourite boss battle OST in the franchise
Anonymous No.723833557 [Report]
>>723832804
for example
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy6pixelremaster/mods/15
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy6pixelremaster/mods/26
Anonymous No.723833769 [Report] >>723834102
>>723823924
Why didn´t Cecil impregnate Rydia before marrying Rosa? Is he a gay?
Anonymous No.723834004 [Report] >>723839097
>>723817771 (OP)
for just FF4 itself, yes, the DS version is the best way to play, especially as you can give the spoony bard's abilities to another character and it turns out they're pretty fucking useful for most of the game except for the part he's actually in
five more tails to collect too
the PSP version wins for content though, containing FF4, The After Years, and a chapter to bridge the two

>>723829595
PS2 version

>>723829735
objectively correct
Anonymous No.723834102 [Report] >>723834246
>>723833769
>Is he a gay?
have you seen how pretty he is?
Anonymous No.723834246 [Report]
>>723834102
griffith looking ass
Anonymous No.723834380 [Report]
>>723832918
You can double it to 30fps using a mod. I think it makes battles faster, so you want to set the in game battle timer to slow.
Anonymous No.723835736 [Report]
>>723818223
Kirby Super Star.
Anonymous No.723835924 [Report]
>>723821635
For me, it was valvalis and the fucking wall.
Anonymous No.723837656 [Report]
Did anyone ever mod a better UI for the 3D version of 4? It looks fucking terrible on PC since it's just using the mobile version
Anonymous No.723838318 [Report] >>723838581
FF4 just sucks actually
Anonymous No.723838421 [Report] >>723841496
>>723817771 (OP)
Voice Acting only makes games worse
2D>3D
difficulty has little to do with your overall enjoyment
Anonymous No.723838581 [Report]
>>723838318
Your mom sucks me
Anonymous No.723838649 [Report]
I hate the DS graphical style for FF and Bravely, the stick limbs just completely ruin the designs.
Anonymous No.723838809 [Report] >>723841650
i never finish it, i got stuck at the second moon trip, I was getting bodied by all normal enemies lol
Anonymous No.723838864 [Report] >>723842046
>>723818223
Any game that heavily relies on the DS having two screens and/or a touch screen is going to play better on an actual DS than on anything else.
Anonymous No.723838912 [Report] >>723839207 >>723839283 >>723839551 >>723846716
>>723817771 (OP)
I'm thinking of playing this, thoughts?
Anonymous No.723839013 [Report] >>723839207 >>723842046
>>723817771 (OP)
The 3D remakes butchered the art style and are soulless. The SNES art style is still the best. The other re-releases/remakes made the art style worse as time went on.
>b-but the gameplay!
You don't play this game for gameplay, you play it for nostalgia.

Nobody looks at this garbage and thinks its cool. Completley butchered for 3DSbabs. Ceazy how this console ruins every game and franchose that was on it.
Anonymous No.723839097 [Report]
>>723834004
>PSP version wins for content though
Sometimes less is more.
Anonymous No.723839207 [Report]
>>723838912
Great gameplay, good music, bad everything else.
>>723839013
>Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song if it released on N64
Yeah that's bad
Anonymous No.723839283 [Report] >>723839992
>>723838912
Decent game overall. Story is not as deep though as FFT.
Anonymous No.723839509 [Report] >>723839936 >>723840343 >>723841408
>>723817771 (OP)
FF4 is one of the few times that I think a remake unironically removes an aspect that made the original so unique
FF4 was amazingly innovative for telling a story directly tied to its gameplay
Having Cecil literally change classes to demonstrate his character growth was supremely impactful and was certainly a first for JRPGs
Same with Rydia getting a visibly different sprite and changing her summoning to be stronger
The DS remake just paints all of that as par for the course with its cutscenes
It loses some of the innovation
Still a good game, but I prefer the original just for how historic it was
Anonymous No.723839551 [Report]
>>723838912
I loved FFTA but I get really bored with this one and I can't remember why. I've emulated it like 3 times and never finished it.
Anonymous No.723839826 [Report]
https://files.catbox.moe/56sbjm.mp4
Anonymous No.723839936 [Report] >>723840573
>>723839509
nobody:
FF4fags when they think FF2 doesn't exist: FF4 was amazingly innovative for telling a story directly tied to its gameplay
Anonymous No.723839992 [Report]
>>723839283
That's because its not a FFT game. Its a FFTA game.
Anonymous No.723840042 [Report]
Did the after year parts ever got the 3d chibi treatment
Anonymous No.723840302 [Report] >>723860094
i love the look of the ds final fantasy games
Anonymous No.723840343 [Report]
>>723839509
>Having Cecil literally change classes to demonstrate his character growth was supremely impactful and was certainly a first for JRPGs
>Same with Rydia getting a visibly different sprite and changing her summoning to be stronger
how does the remake "remove" these aspects when they are right there?
Anonymous No.723840573 [Report]
>>723839936
FF2 tried, but it was shit at it. It had a number of fanciful innovations like blowing up the starting towns, but it doesn't have character arcs, the villains have little if any personality (the Emperor has like 2 appearances total) and the plot is as barebones as it gets. There's more depths in Tellah alone as a character then there is in the whole of the Wild Roses.
Anonymous No.723841408 [Report] >>723845193
>>723839509
This makes 0 fucking sense dude. Cecil still becomes a Paladin and the scene holds plenty of weight with the added voice acting and improved visuals. Same with Rydia.
Anonymous No.723841496 [Report]
>>723838421
>retarded opinion
>even more retarded opinion
>most retarded opinion
Anonymous No.723841648 [Report]
>>723827373
Anonymous No.723841650 [Report]
>>723838809
The trick is to set the auto battle so that all the characters aside Edge defend, and edge uses his smokescreen Ninjutsu to help the party run away. By the time you make it to the moon a second time you should already be strong enough to beat the final boss
Anonymous No.723841854 [Report] >>723854056
Rydia was my first vidya crush.
Anonymous No.723842046 [Report]
>>723838864
So true. I don't emulate DS/3DS on my deck for this exact reason

>>723839013
The 3D artstyle is fine. Rydia's summons alone are so much more cool than the 2D games that this point is moot for me.

>you don't play games for gameplay
Ok retard, don't project any harder or you'll summon Transman
Anonymous No.723845193 [Report]
>>723841408
Are you dark skinned?
Anonymous No.723845690 [Report] >>723851976
>>723817771 (OP)
I wish they all had 3D remakes
Anonymous No.723846716 [Report] >>723847818
>>723838912
It has a different gameplay loop from FFTA because it wants you to do each side quest manually and wants you to do side quests to unlock new jobs instead of just leveling jobs

It also has a different story entirely even though it's also an isekai because the wider reason and story based adversaries don't really matter until the final few hours of the story, the story is 90% the characters going around doing stuff and the gameplay is largely going around doing stuff.

It does a lot to try to connect itself to FFTA and FF12 because it was a collab between the FFTA and FF12 dev teams but those connections are a really flimsy if you actually think about them for more than 30 seconds.

It's worth it for the soundtrack but if you don't like the characters, the world and fucking around, it's gonna get old before you finish it.
Anonymous No.723846998 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
Yeah pretty much.
Anonymous No.723847818 [Report] >>723849370
>>723846716
The biggest thing that makes it get old is that it's too easy. While playing this game I had the sudden realization that most fights were over after 5 turns or so but I still had to tediously mop up the remaining units which is the part that gets old. Devs need to add a feature for the enemy team to calculate their odds of coming back from their current situation and if it's low enough the enemy team just surrenders (which you can choose to refuse it you really want to continue the charade).
Anonymous No.723848287 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
Augments are also just more interesting than what they had in the base game. Having Rydia with item lore, draw attacks, and counter while equipped with the stardust rod and setting using the rod in place of attack was pretty funny. A step up from the more common draw attacks counter and kick setup that I used early on.
Anonymous No.723848752 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
The only real issue of DS IV is that it makes Dark Knight Cecil feel a little less ominous with all of those shots of him without the faceplate
Anonymous No.723849370 [Report] >>723849591 >>723853414
>>723847818
I had a tedium problem with FFTA moreso because of the law system, every fight check the laws, you have to use marche and his only attacks break the laws? I guess he just does nothing the whole fight or it's GG.

FFTA2 easing up on the law system was a lot better but it kind of cut out that idea of diversifying your party or manipulating the law system with law
Anonymous No.723849469 [Report]
More FF games need Dark Knight
Anonymous No.723849591 [Report] >>723853414
>>723849370
Yeah FFTA1 is just bullshit. I got to a fight where I couldn't do over x amount of damage or something like that and I just ragequit after getting redcarded for it and gameovering because it was the MC. That was after like 8 hours. FFTA2 I managed to get at least like 50 hours or so before I got bored.
Anonymous No.723849592 [Report] >>723850935 >>723859308
>>723817771 (OP)
wait wait wait...
Its harder than de NDS version?
Anonymous No.723850935 [Report]
>>723849592
it is the NDS version just without the second screen and multiplayer stuff/whyt
Anonymous No.723851976 [Report]
>>723845690
Imagine a world where FF was not hardlined into every game being pseudorealism slop where the only difference is that the characters are intentionally modeled
XIV being the only "stylized" modern (15 years old) mainline title is a travesty
Anonymous No.723853332 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
BASED CECIL BEST PROTAGONIST NEXT TO ZIDANE
Anonymous No.723853414 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
The graphics which looked find or a tiny screen that could fit into your palm look REALLY bad when blown up to the size of a HD monitor. You can see the visible pixels on textures, never mind that grass and bushes are obviously flat in battles. Also, Steam removed some features from the DS original (and replaced the menu with the ugly mobile one) so it's hard to call it the definitive edition when it's clearly worse.

Also, there's different gameplay between FF4DS and FF4PSP so it's really difficult to compare the two. FF4DS focuses on the augments system and gives you some optional bosses if you play thru the game three times, while FF4PSP lets you use any of the previous characters and just hands you a bunch of bonus dungeons and doesn't force you to replay content repeatedly to access it. Both are good, but it's hard to claim one is better.

>voice acted cutscenes
More scenes fleshing out the past and backstory which have been mentioned before, but weren't included in any other version of the game. You also get to see character thoughts in the pause screen at different points in the story, which is a nice touch. Altho I don't remember if the Steam 3D version removed that bit or kept it in.

Also, I'm still pissed at Square so I'm not playing the games or buying any new ones. I've already bought FF4 3D, FF4 After Years 3D, and FF4 Pixel Remaster, all on Steam, so I guess it doesn't matter.

>>723849370
>>723849591
>FFTA1 Laws
Yeah, fuck those. I once ran into a "no knockback" law and found myself kicked out of the fight because I'd crit an enemy, which caused it to get knocked back, and got redcarded. (That doesn't apply if the enemy is against a wall when you crit, but good luck lining that up every time.) The most frustrating thing is that if you set things up to make the laws apply to the enemy - a Damage:Human law, for example - the CPU just blatantly ignores it and redcards themselves the whole fight, with no consequence.
Anonymous No.723853537 [Report] >>723857805
>>723818829
The augment system is complete retardation and actively makes you go against common sense.

>know a character is going to die
>to get better augments you have to willingly give them rare augments for no reason because ?????

It's cryptic nonsense they put in because they were huffing paint. Go on, what's the ingame reason for this logic?
Anonymous No.723853631 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
If it WASN'T SO GODDAMNED ZOOMED IN (so you can't actually see anything) it would be.
The DS version is the only way to play this version, since the 2nd screen at least lets you see the map simultaneously without covering the main image.

As it stands, if you don't have the DS version, Pixel Remaster is the way to go.
Anonymous No.723854032 [Report] >>723854296
>>723818289
When I stopped trying to follow a guide and just experimented a bit, the way augments worked was pretty simple:

>If a character has no augments, then they hand over one augment.
>If a character has one augment, then they hand over two augments.
>If a character has two augments or more, then they hand over three augments.
>Augments stay on characters between NG+.

There are a few exceptions, like the twins, but that's mostly how it works. Slap an autopotion augment on Edward and he'll be handout out two augments for all three playthrus. This was all really, really obvious when I just played the game and attached augments to people instead of trying to map out every optimal augment from a bunch of different tables before I'd even started the game. It really isn't hard to figure out, it isn't hard to optimize, and the biggest difficulty is figuring out when you get a character's augments later in the game. (Edward's augments aren't gained into Troika, for example, which is a lot later than when you lose access to him.)
Anonymous No.723854056 [Report] >>723854210
>>723841854
And she was never plapped.
The ff4 universe is the big gay.
Anonymous No.723854210 [Report] >>723855058 >>723857032 >>723862072
>>723854056
She's been stuck in a hyperbolic time chamber for 16 years of her life. Meanwhile, Edge is busy being the biggest simping virgin and doing everything possible he can to make him look radioactive. It's probably not surprising that the two just never got together.
Anonymous No.723854296 [Report] >>723854624
>>723854032
it was kinda dicey like, optimizing for which characters to prioritize giving those early augments to to make sure you got all their shit and enough copies, especially if you planned to do proto-babil where you really do want to have maxed attributes and so on (and can still get fucked over if 2 of the really nasty attacks hit back to back)
I think the 3 playthroughs limit kind of forces using a guide if you want to do that
if it was unlimited you'd be able to make mistakes and still get through it eventually but with the limit you do have to kind of minmax for proto-babil.
Anonymous No.723854465 [Report] >>723854843
>>723817771 (OP)
>1 and 2 get remade on PS1
>Ported to GBA
>3 is remade for DS
>4 is remade for DS

HOLY SHIT, CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY 5 AND THEN MY FAVE, 6!!!
>...

Why did they stop? Kefka battle in stereoscopic 3D would've been too KINO for this world.
Anonymous No.723854624 [Report] >>723855282
>>723854296
>I think the 3 playthroughs limit kind of forces using a guide if you want to do that
This is true. And it's kind of BS to ask players to play the game three times (or worse yet, REPLAY the game three more times) to fight the optional content. I think players probably should've had the option to fight it at any time, even if they'd clearly get smeared all over the pavement if trying on the first playthru.

But I'm not opposed to an optional, difficult boss requiring a very specific strategy and requiring a very specific route thru the game to fight successfully. I'm more opposed to asking people to play the game three times, period, for any reason, because most people are going to find that replaying a story-focused JRPG three times in a row to be very boring. It's kind of a neat idea, but an annoying way to implement it.
Anonymous No.723854843 [Report] >>723855315 >>723863310
>>723854465
FF1, FF2, FF4, FF5, and FF6 are all on GBA.
Only FF3 and FF4 got ported to the DS, and I'm under the impression that FF4DS might've been pushing things. They probably didn't have room on the cartridge to fit a FF5DS or FF6DS.

I'm not sure why they didn't go with the games on the 3DS, at least. They did for Dragon Quest. (DQ1-3 on GBC, DQ4-6 on DS, DQ7-8 on 3DS) I guess they knew that Dragon Quest was going to sell in Japan regardless, but maybe they thought Final Fantasy wasn't going to sell on 3DS? It sounds insane to say that.
Anonymous No.723855058 [Report]
>>723854210
And for the better. Suffer not the waifu thief to live.
Anonymous No.723855282 [Report]
>>723854624
well, yeah I guess that's also true, it'd have been nicer to be "post game" content rather than replay content.
But they really tuned Proto-Babil to virtually require totally maxed characters with low drop rate armor, and min maxed augments to do enough damage (and only allowing 1 limit break augment kind of sucks). and phoenix to cover for some really shitty RNG.
The DS version I think allowed for 2 Limit Break Augments that probably would have helped a lot to have limit break on both Rydia and Kain (not to mention make the stat maxing shit go so much easier with Rosa's Love on Cecil and Limit Break on both Rydia and Kain).
Only having 1 really sucked.
Anonymous No.723855315 [Report] >>723858379
>>723854843
I still want a version of IV based on the GBA version, but with the screen resolution of the SNES, and all the DS content converted and added in too.
Anonymous No.723856107 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
All I know is they didn't try with After Years. Like, that jarring final episode where they just throw all the characters at you at whatever level and equipment they had. I don't think I managed to get back one summon with Rydia. Is that actually how things were meant to be? Killing them and not getting them?
Anonymous No.723856863 [Report] >>723857287 >>723857391 >>723857607
got in the mood to crack out my 3ds again, what games does it have that are considered definitive aswell
Anonymous No.723857032 [Report]
>>723854210
She becomes a single mother and he offers to raise her kid in the ending, so he eventually did score.
Anonymous No.723857287 [Report] >>723862080
>>723856863
Monster Hunter 3/4 U
Anonymous No.723857391 [Report] >>723862080
>>723856863
Kirby Planet Robobot
DQ7
MH3U
MH4U
MHGen
Mario 3D Land
Kingdom Hearts DDD
Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
None of these are really must-play. If you're a Kirby fan then the Kirby one is pretty damn good for what it is.
Anonymous No.723857607 [Report] >>723862080
>>723856863
SMT4 & SMT4 Final
Anonymous No.723857805 [Report]
>>723853537
The more you left an impact on a character before they had to go, the more of an impact they leave on you and affect your change.
Anonymous No.723858379 [Report]
>>723855315
The DS content kind of conflicts with the GBA content, since the whole point of the DS involves replaying with NG+ and getting other characters' abilities with the augments system. That kind of doesn't make sense when you're getting the characters back, especially since you never get augments of the final 5 cast so you cannot, for instance, give Throw or Summon to a character other than Edge or Rydia. But you can hand off Twincast and Recall to anybody.

Also, you might want to look up Final Fantasy 4 Free Enterprise if you just want more FF4 but a new way to play the game.
Anonymous No.723859308 [Report]
>>723849592
The hard mode on the steam version is roughly equivalent to the NDS version.
Anonymous No.723860094 [Report] >>723860137
>>723840302
A pleasant mid point between the chibi sprites and the ultra 8k realism.
Anonymous No.723860137 [Report]
>>723860094
they're just 3d chibi models
Anonymous No.723860256 [Report] >>723860816
Hey, not an RPG guy which FF game is the most fun/rewarding in terms of gameplay? I was thinking 1,3,5 for the job system.
Anonymous No.723860485 [Report]
>>723824917
bait
Anonymous No.723860816 [Report] >>723861110 >>723861379
>>723860256
Bravely Default or one of the FFT games.

BD isn't technically a Final Fantasy game, but it's made by a lot of the same people and it does the job system really well. The progress thru the game really emphasizes on changing and mixing jobs, and you don't just, for example, stick with White Mage but you never can just replace it with another job. The biggest problem is that the second half of the game is tedious and repetitive, but that's really just a problem if you want to run into the end of the story - it gives you plenty of battles if you want to grind JP and try out different job types.

I'm recommending the 3DS version of Bravely Default. Apparently the recent Switch remake requires you to do a bunch of minigames and side bullshit to unlock basic gameplay features, like turning encounter rate up/down? That sounds pretty terrible.

The whole FFT games took the job system of FF5 and really improved it. It's not just running a single job and then having a single ability on top of that. You unlock skills/spells in the jobs and also unlock abilities for movement, for counterhit, passives, and so on. And you get to mix-and-match them, giving you a lot of build variety. FFT has the best story but getting JP for job skills is a bit clunky. FFTA makes gaining job skills and using them very fun, and the abilities combine well, but you need to deal with the stupid law system which honestly gets in the way. FFTA2 does away with the FFTA law system, but the story is stupid and jobs range from mostly worthless to just broken.

If you insist on a mainline title, then FF5 or FFX-2. FF5 is the classic job system, and they've focused more on story since then. FFX-2 involves characters switching jobs during combat, so not quite the same, but still leveling jobs and a fun way to do it.
Anonymous No.723860874 [Report]
>>723817771 (OP)
>the definitive way to play Final Fantasy 4
For me it's PSP version. I like certain features of 3D version like the ability to re-obtain Darkness after changing classes, but overall I prefer 2D over 3D.
Anonymous No.723861110 [Report] >>723862005
>>723860816
>bunch of minigames and side bullshit to unlock basic gameplay features,
Weird, I'll look into that and see if it is worth it.
Yeah, I'll probably check out BD after checking out 5 GBA.

>White Mage
That's one of my concerns lolol
>>723859456
Anonymous No.723861379 [Report]
>>723860816
It's the same team as the 3D remakes of III and IV and 4 heroes of light gaiden
Anonymous No.723861441 [Report] >>723862005
>get to Giant's CPU
>even a little overleveled at this point
>game tells me to destroy the defense node first
>the instant the fight begins the attack node obliterates 2 partymembers and severely injures everybody else
>kills everybody else before i can even get an attack in
>had to reset at least a dozen times just to get lucky enough to get a single attack in that'd kill it

This fight is a shining example of everything wrong with the 3d remake. This enemy only hit for 10% of your max health in damage, which is pretty low, but here it's way too powerful an attack. Also the CPU itself is immune to every element except one so all you can do is spam the corresponding Rydia summon, so Fusoya is completely worthless here.
Anonymous No.723861709 [Report]
Also the augment system really fucks you over if you played the original. Tellah and Fusoya have some seriously good augments you just lose if you don't waste bad augments on them.
Anonymous No.723861857 [Report]
These games require zero skill so saying it's harder tells me it's just more tedious.
Anonymous No.723862005 [Report] >>723862202
>>723861441
This is one of those "puzzle fights" which are pretty typical for the game. I don't quite remember the order, but destroying the pieces out of order will seriously fuck you over. I don't recall it being that hugely difficult in the DS version, but maybe I'm misremembering.

>>723861110
>>White Mage
>That's one of my concerns lolol
Honestly, white mage/healer is something I tend to focus on in games so it was a thing I paid a lot of attention to. Bravely Default handed it very well. There's a big spike in JEXP requirements around job level 4 or 5, meaning that you're strongly encouraged to subclass White Mage and go into one of the second batch of classes you just got to complement your white magic. Then right as that JEXP plateaus, you're running into your third batch of job options and so will probably pick up Salve-Maker while subclassing whichever job you've preferred up until then.

Past that, it's pretty open to you, so just pick whatever options you like. I had a lot of fun with the healer character as a result. But I've heard that Black Mage and black magic in general is pretty disappointing in Bravely Default.
Anonymous No.723862072 [Report]
>>723854210
Nah, shit sequel says Edge was too busy being a ruler to think about the plap, and Rydia trying to fix her home and figure out why her monster parents are being cunts.

She ends up adopting a clone baby of herself and even her monster parents try to set up her and Edge.


Yeah after years is fucking retarded and undercooked a lot of stuff.
Anonymous No.723862080 [Report]
>>723857287
>>723857391
I spent a decent amount of time on XX already so unless you reckon 3/4 have enough stuff or are worth it anyway i might give em a skip. Ill check out the Kirby tho I've skipped the Kirby series entirely so fk it ill make this one the first.

>>723857607
ill put it on the backlog for when im looking for a monster collector
Anonymous No.723862202 [Report]
>>723862005
>This is one of those "puzzle fights" which are pretty typical for the game
Oh i know that, but the problem here is the enemy's speed was so ludicrously high that I simply could not even attack it before dying. I think i might have had to turn the battle speed all the way down.
Anonymous No.723862291 [Report]
>>723818223
OBJECTION!
Anonymous No.723863310 [Report]
>>723854843
But AFAIK the FF 4,5 and 6 GBA ports were not remakes like the PS1 FF1 and 2.