Thread 723829868

But I thought Xbox was out of the hardware business. Did you...lie to me?

>>723829868 (OP)
>We're going to overcharge like crazy for the next Xbox because we don't give a shit about install base anymore

If they are going to crap out a console that costs over 1k just cancel it, nobody wants that over a PC

/v/ tends to jump to conclusions, filling in the gaps with their paranoid schizophrenic fantasied

>>723829868 (OP)
>high end
>premium
People were crying over the Switch 2 price, hope it's cheap

How many hardware flops MS needs to give up?

>>723830639
You're gonna get a $1500 desktop gayming PC with an Xbox logo slapped on it and you will say "thank you"ny24v

>>723830639
Switch 2 price really isnt even that bad, relatively speaking. I remember people going crazy over the PS3 price too and that wasn't that bad either.

>>723829868 (OP)
They're not making an xbox console. They're going to sell the xbox name to another company to let them make xbox consoles like the asus handheld.

>>723829868 (OP)
>some guy heard something and jumped to a conclusion
>internet bandwagons on it to the point they're asking random Target employees about Xbox displays

Xbox is dead.

>>723829868 (OP)
Makes sense that they would go absolutely all in on one last hardware

>>723830639
They're charging devs $500 more for devkits now, there's no chance it's cheap.
https://archive.is/Fn3uQ

>>723829868 (OP)
It's all up to the black woman to try to salvage the disasters of the white man

>>723832736
She already got another job at a fried chicken company

>>723829868 (OP)
So it will just be a 3rd party pc with a controller and the name Xbox slapped in front

>>723829868 (OP)
>console
>premium
>high-end

>>723832736
Based

>>723830920
I thought Microsoft said devkits were free?

>>723829868 (OP)
Just make gaming fun and affordable again fucking retards

>>723830828
You're fucking retarded kys

>>723830371
it'll literally be a pc/console hybrid, she even spells it out for you, retard.

>>723833136
For microsoft yes. They don't want you owning anything. I'm sure they'll come up with some rentier scheme for consoles like they did with games.

>>723833140
Indie devs used to get 2 free dev kits if they asked but I think they stopped that program. Now it's a $4k buy in.

>>723829868 (OP)
>very premium and high end curated experience
This means they're pricing begins at several thousand dollars.
You're effectively buying a more limited and less repair-friendly gaming PC.

>>723833268
I'll repeat, nobody wants a console that costs over 1k when they can just buy a pc.

>>723833304
>You're effectively buying a more limited and less repair-friendly gaming PC.
I bet it'll be a good deal cheaper than if you got those parts on your own, so some people will be into that. Not as many as they think, though.

>>723830828
>tendie still using this to defend Nintendos greed
Persistent little cultist aren’t ya

>>723833383
except that's what they'll be doing, buying a pc. you're really bad at this reading thing, so I'm out of this dump.

>>723833505
It'll be nothing like a gaming pc because it makes no sense for them to do it. Their console money comes from the Xbox ecosystem, not the windows/steam ecosystem.

>>723829868 (OP)
So they want the plebs to stream their games and the enthusiasts to have a powerful console

>>723833659
Yes, Microsoft is going to make a pc for you to play steam games on, just cuz. You're a fucking moron, run along now.

>>723833268
I think they'll do it once and then stop. Just as a breadcrumb to get Xbox owners to buy a PC. But even if people buy a PS6 instead, I doubt they care as long as they're still buying their games.

>>723829868 (OP)
So they're going to sell prebuilt PCs

>>723829868 (OP)
in an ideal world us /v/irgins would meet up and just all go to town on Sarah Bond.

>>723829868 (OP)
It's going to be a prebuilt PC using a custom AMD APU running Windows with an Xbox overlay similar to the ASUS/Xbox handheld. It's going to be a lot more expensive than the PS6 and appeal to pretty much no one.

>>723830371
the rog aly is selling out, troon. you think a box console that can run Steam wouldn't?

>>723829868 (OP)
>handheld
No thanks

i think that's better for consoles. offer high end specs so they don't get outdated after a year. otherwise they end up holding gaming back.

>>723829868 (OP)
>trusting anything Xbox says
Retard, anyways, I want them to drop out of hardware sooner than PlayStation does. I don't know how they achieved it, but somehow, Xbox is even worse than PlayStation.

>>723833505
They will get fucked by other countries trying to fight back against us tariffs imagine having to pay 20% on top of a console that costs over a thousand dollars just for a barebones experience because muh exclusive market. People who want an exclusive experience are willing to splurge on PC, everyone else gets a playstation. Who exactly is going to buy this shit?

>>723830371
It's gonna be the SteamBox just official MS instead of third parties doing the work Valve should've done pre-'Eck.

>>723829868 (OP)
>very premium and high-end curated experience
So, you're telling me you're going to have to pay $1500 for an Xbox? Can they not, just stop making hardware and go completely third party already, damn.

>>723837248
Maybe that "premium" is the same as BL4.

>>723837024
Hope Valve brings out their Cleveland Steambox next year for the same price as a digital PS5, they'll nuke this piece of shit from orbit.

>>723835880
Yeah, just what we need, $800 PS6s and $1500 Xboxes, great.

>>723829868 (OP)
>curated
>You're starting to see some of the thinking we have in this handheld

Yeah, so it's gonna be an "Xbox" PC. It's crazy how quickly they've ruined this brand.
Unfortunately, the majority of their games are so gay now too, that outside of Forza Horizon, or maybe Halo, at a very steep discount, I don't see myself even purchasing any of their PC ports either.

Sounds like more smart Microsoft business decisions. That same ones that killed their last 3 consoles.

>>723837502
At this stage, you would think they got the memo of the ROG ally reveal....

>>723829868 (OP)
clown world
nobody is buying this shit, and they're looking to make more
where is the money coming from? more stolen us tax dollars?

>>723837502
Microsoft is the Sony of America, they keep trying to chase after the gaming company's (in this case, Valve) tail but keep proving that they're not a gaming company nor have any real interest in it. Valve doesn't need a fully custom chip for their Steam hardware, they can make it work with semi-custom off-the-shelf chips and the SteamOS is also cheaper than Microsoft's Magnus APU they plan to use on their Xbox "devices". They really need to stop trying to fight Valve, they can't beat Steam. Xbox is about to run out of Steam.

They have absolutely no idea what they're doing. All they know is high-end hardware is expensive so all they can communicate is that it's going to be expensive.

But will there be games?

>>723837962
lol

Realistically speaking they'll probably stop subsidizing the hardware to make it up in software later and sell you equivalent specs as a "premium" brand but you're paying in full

>>723838107
i wont be paying shit actually because im not buying it

>>723837889
>Valve doesn't need a fully custom chip
Valve doesn´t have any custom chip really, just a PC with certain specs.

>>723830828
the price of the Switch 2 console is exactly what most people expected, it's the price of the games that rustled the jimmies

>>723838198
I love Valve, while Microsoft is smoking crack, Valve is about to kill Xbox with Steam.

>>723833803
they literally already did
they're making it so they can sell og xbox and 360 games on it too

How's that premium asus rog xbox ally x or whaever the fuck its called selling?

>>723839291
the core xbox market (blax) bought them, realized they couldn't install their actual xbox games on it for the most part, and made scenes at best buy returning them

>>723839939
I always knew consoletards were stupid but jesus christ.

May we see it?
>n-no

>>723829868 (OP)
What the hell does curated mean in this context?

>>723840440
They're going to run a version of Windows and sell you games via the Microsoft store.

Seems like a good strategy against Sony by outcompeting them on specs.

>>723840440
marketing buzzword

asus pre builts with the xbox brand stamped on it

It's gonna be a gaming PC, probably with off the shelf parts or OEM branded. Their push to make all games launcheable from the xbox app hints at this. You can see and launch your steam games thru the xbox app now.

wait, does ms think they can become the apple of video games? also the rog xbox ally is an expensive piece of shit

Because if there's anything that gets people excited these days it's stuff getting even more expensive.

>>723829868 (OP)
aka it's going to be expensive as shit and nobody is going to buy it

>>723840806
>$1500 Xbox a good strategy vs $750 PS6
Are you smoking as much crack as they are?

>>723832736
black women and White men, after he has produced White children with a White woman, need each other

>>723837473
what's the problem with that? the economy is in great shape, we all earn plenty of money to buy houses and feed our families, can spend a little on entertainment too, no?

>>723840949
It's using a custom APU, the biggest one ever made

>>723841105
I'll just get a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 and call it a day.

There is 100% not going to be another Xbox console. Microsoft is notorious for spreading misinformation when their products are failing. They literally made press statements about the Windows phones days before announcing it was shutting down.

>sony concentrating on trying to make the ps6 as affordable as possible because of tariffs
>ms wants to make xbox expensive as fuck because retardation

i wonder which strategy is gonna work out better

>>723829868 (OP)
The only way I'm ever going to buy a Microsoft console is if it it will be full of uncensored non-woke games AND uncensored high-quality porn games featuring impregnation.
2D, 3D, hentai, whatever. It doesn't matter as long as it's high quality.

Only and ONLY then will I buy Microsoft's new "premium high-end" console.

>>723829868 (OP)
By curated do they mean always online, serves up ads regularly, and requires an "ultimate" game pass subscription to be more than an ad displaying machine?

>>723829868 (OP)
It just makes no sense for them to make another console when the current one is being bought by a) nobody and b) people who regret it and will never buy another xbox.

>>723841256
That would explain the everything is xbox ads. Why sell hardware at a loss when you can just sell access to all the media you own?

>>723841256
Yup

>New Xbox releases in 2027
>it features GFWL 2.0
>Microsoft's last project before Xbox closes is solely done to fuck over PC gamers
>Valve wipes the sweat off their foreheads knowing just how close they were to getting uberfucked by MS had it not been for Linux
You know this is going to happen

>>723842239
You're assuming anyone is going to release games on the Microsoft Store, they won't.

>>723830828
We need a tendie holocaust.

>>723844070
There's bajillions of games on the Xbox app, why would they need the MS Store? Once Xbox dies, they can just rename it to the Windows "Gaming" app. Merging with MS store might come later, or it might not come at all. Right now the Xbox app becoming Microsoft's Steam seems a lot more likely.

>>723844351
Probably, they'll kill everything Xbox once this fails and just redub it, Microsoft Gaming, no hardware, just software, if they ever do gaming events again, it'll just be their first party games, most likely.

>>723829868 (OP)
ive been saying it
its a prebuilt pc basically, that's why they pushed the "this is an xbox" thing

>>723844519
>they'll kill everything Xbox once this fails and just redub it, Microsoft Gaming, no hardware, just software, if they ever do gaming events again, it'll just be their first party games, most likely.
Pretty much. Xbox's fate is to become another Sega. The problem with that though is that Sega actually makes good games and has a bunch of popular new franchises. Xbox is coasting off the success of old franchises and nostalgia. It'll probably get to a point where they might have to sell some of these publishers again, especially if they're buckling under the weight of goy pass.

>>723845126
Not only that, even to the very end, Sega still gave a shit about their hardware, that's why when they ported their games over, some broke. Microsoft gives so little shit about their hardware that their games look, feel, and play better on alien hardware over their own. They really had no business being in gaming with how little they actually care.

>>723845328
>They really had no business being in gaming with how little they actually care.
The whole reason they even got into gaming to begin with was because they feared consoles overtaking Windows with the PS2. Everything Xbox did was mainly to protect Windows dominance, same with DirectX.

Xbox's general lack of direction is fascinating.

>>723841074
>$750 PS6
Are you?

>>723847648
Funny every move Microsoft made to protect Windows is what has killed it for gaming. Windows gaming will only popular through people using the desktop but on desktops people use Steam, Valve will beat them in gaming hardware that will use SteamOS made by Valve. In the PC gaming space, they completely lost to Valve, they couldn't beat Sony who will probably go third party fully next, and they'll also be killed in the handheld space by Nintendo. Microsoft got out of the market they dominated for years to try to force their way into another market and ended up losing both, lol. They can't even get into the mobile market that they lost to Apple and Google in.

>>723847996
>he thinks Sony will release the PS6 for cheap
The best you can hope for is it being $50 cheaper than the PS5 Pro.

>>723848007
Xbox were at their peak when they had popular exclusives, bespoke hardware and software, and were co-headed by a former Sega boss. Quite telling really. People might buy an Xbox to play Halo with their friends, but if they don't need an Xbox to do that or the game sucks, nobody is going to buy one.

The best course of action for Xbox going all in on PC is making actually good games that get people to sign up for the Xbox app or game pass. Unfortunately, they kill all the studios actually making well received games. Closing Tango Gameworks was probably the biggest miscalculation we've seen on that front.

>>723848535
Pal I'm saying PS6 will be pushing $1000 smackeroos

>>723849545
Oh shit

>>723829868 (OP)
Xbox keeps bragging about having the most powerful consoles on the market but nobody cares because Xbox has no games
The Nintendo Switch has lesser graphics than you phone but it ran circles around PlayStation and Xbox because it had games

>>723829868 (OP)
okay but what about the games?

>>723829868 (OP)
>im black
>and a girl
>buy my shit or you are racist
not buying, im racist.

>>723830639
they tried cheap in the last gen, it just ended up that a lot of games couldn't run on the cheap and people talked shit about them saying all of them are bad because they bought the cheapest one.
these people are retarded, but microsoft is also retarded for not realizing this would happen, the only people who would ever buy an xbox are retarded anyway so they have to be able to put 2 and 2 together.

so it seems like are going to do the opposite this time, make it more expensive, make is more powerful, make it seem like theirs is premium and its worth buying it.

>>723852316
>Xbox keeps bragging about having the most powerful consoles on the market but nobody cares because Xbox has no games
I don't understand this mindset, being the most power console never won them anything, it always made them lose. They lost with the OG Xbox, they lost with the Xbone X which sold worse than the other Xbones, the Series S was selling better than the Series X for years. instead of capitalizing on a weaker/cheaper, more affordable product, those silly bastards decided they should go all in on power with an expensive box. It's like no one played Metroid Dread, POWER IS NOT EVERYTHING.

>>723829868 (OP)
Just like the handheld means it's a prebuilt pc with an xbox logo on it. That is firm confirmation that there will not be another xbox console.

>>723838497
No, they enabled a shitty windows handheld to fight the adoption of Linux through the handheld market. Releasing a windows desktop with an Xbox logo on it serves absolutely no financial or tactical purpose, it only destroys the final remnants of their somewhat lucrative ecosystem.

>>723840440
Prebuilt pc. The parts are "curated" because you don't pick them yourself.

>>723835385
The Rog ally will barely sell 1 million units after all is said and done, if their goal is complete irrelevance then sure. This doesn't even benefit them on the software side because it gives all of that money to valve.

>>723853004
Xbox bas literally never made Microsoft a dime ever once in history, theyve operated continuously at a massive loss since 2001. This was a giant black hole, MS just pulled the plug.

>>723854351
You're confusing the profitability of the console itself with the entire division. Xbox was profitable in the 360 era, at that point it served no major tactical purpose and would have been dropped if it was losing money. they were about to exit the market till Phil convinced the Indian to double down and generate this black hole.

My impression of Nutella is he is absolutely terrified of AI and wants to divest from all software and entertainment media, the issue is that's his entire company.

>>723829868 (OP)
N

>>723840660
Will this shit even have the Windows desktop or Game Lanchers?

>>723829868 (OP)
>High end
>Curated
I got bad news for you, Xbox tranny

Is this shit even going to be made by Microsoft anymore or are they just working on the custom APU with AMD and some third party is making the box around the chip?

didn't read because there's a darkie in the image wut say?

>>723858761
Xbox is a darkie console so why bother

>>723833136
>console
if its so curated and premium it is probably more similar to a normal pc.

>>723833136
Xbox is the choice for niggers and retards and aging dudebros. I'm not even trying to be mean or insult them, that's what it is. These retards wouldn't understand what any of this nerdshit means, so all they need to do is wrap some bullshit in the logo. It won't be enough to make it profitable but it hasn't been profitable in a long time anyway.

>>723829868 (OP)
sigh somehow xbox returned

Bro id buy an ouya if it had games.

Im pretty sure most people would sacrifice modern tech for PS2 graphics if it meant we got good games again.

>>723859574
This isn't a return, this is confirmation that they're just making the custom chip with AMD (the console or should I say, Xbox on a chip) that will be used in third party living room boxes, handhelds, and prebuilt PCs. It technically makes these devices first party Xbox devices with the Xbox branding despite Microsoft not making it themselves like they did in the past and would probably even be sold on their online store with BC and FC along with everything the ROG Xbox Ally has. The console part of the APU the CPU, is probably what they're going to try to do to emulate the performance of a console while the GPU is for the PC side of things. Valve doesn't need to make something as complicated as this to run the SteamOS and will release cheaper Steam hardware.

>>723829868 (OP)
They're stupid rich, Xbox is a vanity project

>>723849006
Their management suck dick, they are doing same as any other big tech in vidya. Throw big money and expect staff shit gold.

That's not how video game development work at all.

>>723830785
Leakers are saying 1300 at most (but no less than 1k), chud.

So what exactly was Microsoft's plan buying companies to just stop them from making games? Like if they released a few Xbox might be doing better.

>>723829868 (OP)
>very premium
In other words, they will make it crazy expensive and target retards with too much money rather than try to actually compete

>>723861008
>if I can't be successful then no one can

They're just trying to do as much damage as they can on their way out.

>>723829868 (OP)
this is just corporate fag speak for expensive.

>>723829868 (OP)
they're obviously letting anyone build an xbox, then they give it some score based on performance and end up calling them xbox 1k 2k 4k or something else retarded with the guarantee that any xbox is capable of playing xbox games
>you'll be able to buy an msi xbox acer xbox asus xbox etc etc

>>723829868 (OP)
Premium console for Premium gamers to play Premium games from Premium developers such as borderlands 4.

>>723829868 (OP)
It's going to be a xbox branded Windows PC for $1600

>>723863214
They're all going to have the same APU but only the living room boxes and handhelds will be considered consoles with locked presets in Xbox mode while having BC/FC while the Xbox PCs with the same APU won't get those locked specs or BC. They could get FC though?

>>723829868 (OP)
These rumors are a combination of market manipulation to fuck with rival companies and advertising revenue for click bait articles. If you believed anything then you're an idiot.

What is an ex box?

>>723829868 (OP)
This sounds like the Neo Geo approach

>>723829868 (OP)
The same bitch that said gamepass is profitable? kek

>>723829868 (OP)
>premium
>high end
Dead on arrival.

>>723852561
Series S wasn't just beating Series X, it was outselling it three to one. This is with the "crappy Xbox" stigma they gave that thing by releasing a more premium Xbox alongside it and without a physical version which is a non-sell in some markets and alienates existing Xbox users with physical games. Xbox and PlayStation have basically been the same box since 7th-gen. PlayStation gets significantly more 3rd-party support so when the price is similar Xbox sales collapse. Series S got in under PS5 on price and that's why it was able to sell for a while despite the issues stated earlier. There's actually been a push within industry to make gaming a more premium thing. More expensive systems. More expensive games. The high-end market is all PC and Steam has consolified PC enough to appeal to existing console players. Their market is basically people who'd buy a PS6 Pro and are okay with worse support.

>>723832736
Mmhmmm

>>723829868 (OP)
Are you too poor to buy $2000 priced consoles and pay $30 a month to rent games?

VERY premium

Lmao

>>723868636
By the time next gen comes around, Game Pass will be $50 a month.

>>723829868 (OP)
Xbox is the only ecosystem worth a shit. It feels me with embarasement seeing tendies say they're eating good.

>>723829868 (OP)

It's just going to be a locked down PC that comes with some Xbox software on it and Microsoft will control what you can use it for.
And if it works, they will consider implementing this business model into Windows 12.

>>723868846
That's every console since the Playstation 1.

>high end
>curated
>premium
i can't believe people still fall for this.

>>723868886

Except in this case, it will literally just be a PC with an Xbox OS.

>>723868152
Nintendo warned these idiots about this, Valve will release a home console (PC) that's more powerful than the PS5 and Xbox Series yet cost less than both while being very cheap compared to their next gen. I also expect Valve to choose the Medusa with the RDNA 3.5+ GPU over the one with RDNA 5 and get a lower price around their current Deck prices while everyone else is using that Medusa Halo Mini, the Z 2E successor, and their handhelds will cost an arm and a leg. So, Steam Deck 2 will even beat Sony's and Microsoft's next gen handheld ventures in price as well. If Snoys and Xbots don't switch over to Nintendo and/or Valve then, there will be no helping them.

>>723829868 (OP)
>Will be very premium
/v/ really sucks at corpospeak huh
this basicly translates to
>We'll be selling a 700$ prebuilt for a whopping 1200$ and fill in any performance gaps with AI garbage
Next gen is so fucked i fully expect Xbox to do literal Virtual Boy numbers and the PS6 will barely match the PSP in sales

>>723868886
at least consoles before the 8th gen had cool unique hardware

>>723864789
Exactly. Microsoft will never cancel Windows Phone, they invested too much money it in.

>>723829868 (OP)
what does this even mean? fuck i hate women

>>723871540
There won't be an xbox console going forward, just expensive prebuilt pcs with an xbox logo on it.

>>723833268
>>723833659
>pc/console hybrid
thats not a PC, thats a hybrid console

>>723829868 (OP)
Companies never announce that they are failing and pulling out until the very end.

>>723868948
Isn't this what people were saying the rog was gonna be?

>>723829868 (OP)
i thought that was a thumbnail from the Hey Ya music video

>>723830920
>EA can't afford $500

>>723833268
>pc/console hybrid
You retards are trying to push this "buzzword" so hard is pathetic.

>>723829868 (OP)
>Hi-End box that you have to throw into trash in 5 years or whenever you stop paying for gamepass.

>>723829868 (OP)
THE
AGE
OF
PREMIUM
GAMERS

Any retard who thinks they would allow any liberty in a closed enviroment that is a console (no matter wich definition you try to spin) should be shot on the main square.

>>723829868 (OP)
>Microsoft

"Most Xbox owners are old grey haired niggers.Those dumb apes will pay a premium for Nike Jordans and put gold in their teeth. Lets hire a semi-attractive niggress, put her in charge to appease the monkeys, and then rob those retarded niggers blind. They will love it because they forever love Massa."

This is precisely whats happening.

In all honesty, they should continue as normal. There are morons with too much money who will buy it and stay subscribed to $360/year Game Pass even if they stop playing video games. Milk the whales.

>>723829868 (OP)
>high end
expensive

>curated
censored

>experience
online as a service/microtransactions/subscription models

>>723829868 (OP)
I don't give a fuck about XBox but I want to have sex with her. I love black women so much bros.

sex with sarah

>>723829868 (OP)
So they're just gonna make an actual locked-down PC.

>>723829868 (OP)
The entire reason consoles exist in the current day is because I can buy an Xbox game and feel confident that it will work on my Xbox. I don't need to figure out specs or find out if my gamepad is compatible with this game or try solving driver issues.
And this shit just isn't gonna be possible if there's like 15 different types of Xbox from various manufacturers. How the hell am I supposed to figure out if GTA Online 2 supports my $399 Acer Xbox, or if I need the $799 Asus ROG Xbox?

>>723879473
>And this shit just isn't gonna be possible if there's like 15 different types of Xbox from various manufacturers
Do you realize they are trying to push streaming hard?

>>723878419
This

>>723829868 (OP)
>curated
No games.

if they simply just made a good console could XBOX come back? i say this as someone who hasnt bought an xbox since the 360 gen. is it that hard for them to just make something that looks cool, plays games really well, and has a cool UI like the xbox og or xbox 360 shipped with? i feel like its literally that simple.

i have used an xbox x or whatever and the tacked on features they cram in like being able to stream shows, or twitch, or youtube, etc never even work well compared to just doing those things on PC. so why include them? it makes no sense. just literally make the console something to fucking play games on and make it look cool.

>>723829868 (OP)
Damn, I was hoping MS would finally do the smart thing. They really don't need consoles, they're positioned to be a terrifyingly large megapublisher.

Just a reminder that anti Sony fags shat the board with court hearings just for Xbox to literally shit itself not a month after the acquisition

>>723829868 (OP)
>Curated
It's going to be full of faggotry