Thread 723851753

Seriously what went wrong? They clearly went all in with this game but it is not delivering even 5% of the results of "that sort" of game.

I only played the first 30 minutes but it's basically a carbon copy of MGR isn't it?

ban steam charts threads

>>723851753 (OP)
>shilled as one of "le hardest" game series of all time
>shilled as the better "le difficult" game than soulslop
>shilled as the better action game than DMC and God of War (old)
>couldn't even break 12k concurrent players
NGkeks? explain? I was under the impression this game would explode and attract tons of normies due to it being notoriously difficult.

>>723851753 (OP)
PC gamers don't really play those types of games.

TOO
MANY
NINJA
GAMES

>>723851753 (OP)
Asmon played it, did he like it or not?

>>723852123
Woah woah, this is not my Ninja Gaiden
this is just PlatinumGames slop, blame the devs

The series has no appeal, i don't want to play some kpop zoomer and the entire series is built off "its so le hard bro"

>>723851753 (OP)
No fucking Ryu and it really plays like NG3 with Bayonetta mashed into it when they needed to delete the entire NG3 gameplay branch and go back to 2 or Black.

10K+ concurrent players for a dead genre is pretty good though.

Why are /v/troons so obsessed with sales?

>>723852123
This ain't NG. Its Nu Team Ninja and Platinum shovelware.

>>723851753 (OP)
Despite fags saying otherwise Ninja Gaiden was never as popular as DMC or GoW.

>>723851753 (OP)
They murdered Itagaki for 11K concurrent

>>723852620
>>723851859
OP here I hate steam chart threads too but let's be honest 10k concurrent players for a game of this caliber just can't be ignored. I am not being a nitpicky bitch like "hurf durf this game only got 160k players but this other game got 170k!!!" no it's just that literally no one is playing this game and I am curious what the hell is going on?

>>723852693
>I hate
>does it
Uh huh

>>723851772
>>723852583
>Hurr Durr it's developed by Platinum so it must play exactly like Bayo and MGR

Both of you have not played any of these games, there is no Bayo or MGR DNA in these games, maybe the character dialouge is similar to MGR, but thats it, gameplay wise there is nothing.

>>723852123
>attract tons of normies due to it being notoriously difficult.
normies like to get carried through games by their discord groomer while listening to podcasts. normal mode would kill them.

>>723852763
Are you kidding? I can tell some animations are copy pasted from MGR. And so are the environments. Yes the gameplay mechanics are different but everything else is very similar

>>723851753 (OP)
Tiktok, streamers, gacha so alphas are too brainroted to care. The game has lame arstyle mixing techwear and ghostrunner instead of going for something unique. Fujos are not interested in ninja gaiden. Not enough china pandering.

>>723851753 (OP)
It's just too spastic and unappealing, the game frankly looks ridiculous. Constantly getting locked into rooms where you're forced to fight a set amount of enemies before you're able to progress is dated design. Players expect more from modern action games.

>>723851753 (OP)
$70 price tag. I'm not spending that kind of money

>>723852693
>10k concurrent players for a game of this caliber just can't be ignored.
oh yeah?
watch me
look im ignoring it right now
because I have zero reason to care
I don't have stock in the publisher, I don't work as a game journo or sales analyst or anything like that
so that info is entirely irrelevant to me
I'm curious why you feel it is relevant to you.

>>723852787
>Nearly 7 years old games
Unironically different times

>>723851753 (OP)
The icing on the cake will be when Nioh 3 gets 3x or more players on release lol
NG4 is good but has no aura, as the kids say

>>723851753 (OP)
imagine losing to fucking Bloodlines 2

>>723853026
For starters I like the game but if it bombed this hard this is pretty much the end of the franchise and perhaps even the end of the genre.

>>723853047
yeah, there was significantly less steam users back then, dipshit.

>>723852620
Nioh is a good game and Team Ninja wasted time and resources that could have been used on Nioh 3 on NG slop. Anybody that likes good games should be celebrating this failure.

>>723853142
>rollslop
>good
lmao

>>723851753 (OP)
0 marketing

new and niche ip's are always DOA with 70 dollar price tag, only mainstream games can get away with it

>>723853142
platinum made ng4 though not TN, apart from some advisory.

>>723853194
Honestly had no idea this was coming out

>>723852941
>Players expect more
Expect less*
>modern action games
No such things exist. Not in the AA and AAA spaces.

game is good, that's all i care about 2bh

>>723853125
Steam users play cs, battlefield, vampire survivors, megabonk and memes like silksong.

>>723852819
Send the animations and enviornments then

>>723852123
Hard 3d action games are shit. Ninja garden was always shit. Nioh is shit. Not even for masochists it's just shit.

>>723853125
>steam users

>>723852654
I bet it was cancer, man was a chimney.

>>723851753 (OP)
>what went wrong?
it isn't a soulslike. traditional character action games is just clunky and outdated. nobody wants to learn combo strings just to juggle helpless enemies in the air.

>>723853325
>>723853341
Thiis what PS5 users are currently playing.

>>723853447
DMC V and Bayonetta 3 did better than this. Your self victimizing narrative is lame.

>>723851753 (OP)
So will this finally killed off CAG once and for all?? I have already get to witness RTS died in my lifetime

ban steam charts threads

>>723853485
Those cost more than steamie games

>>723852819
does it really matter if some animations and locations look same? how autistic do u have to be when the gameplay is the thing that matters

>>723853578
>CAG
There are no cag. There are only horse 'exploration' games with rpg elements and souls likes (focused on combat ofc).

>>723853578
Don't worry Wuxia action will replace them as chinks grow more in internet usage.

>>723852123
>normies
>difficulty
Why do you think normalfags cum themselves over "dark souls is LE HARD" in reality it's not, it just gives them enough challenge to THINK it's hard, but when faces with something truly difficult, they tap right out, hence NG4

>>723853578
CAG was already dead for years with some exceptions proving the rule like this and DMC V. The whole industry has been rollslopping longer than any other sub genre trend before it.

>>723854067
elden ring is harder than this game
at least on hard mode, I haven't unlocked MN yet
I prefer the way this game does difficulty tho

>>723853694
It's not a problem but at the same time it is weird to play what often feels like an asset flip of a game that is what, 12 years old?

>>723854128
Elden ring is hard but gives you tool to make it easier, the DLC on the other hand kicked people's asse's so much it's pretty much review bombed because of it's difficulty

>>723854204
>Elden ring is hard but gives you tool to make it easier
No, Elden Ring is borderline impossible if you don't exploit the "tools to make it easier".

When you run into Margit at the first few minutes of the game you meet a boss that is practically impossible unless you go grind levels to outstat him. And even then you'll probably need summons.

If you play Elden Ring trying to solo content with no summons you'll be torturing yourself with bosses balance around 1v3ing the player.

>>723851753 (OP)
Character action games always sell like shit, you goofballs. The sole exception to this rule is DMC, and even that hasn't been good in nearly two decades. This genre was always terrible and you're just catching on now.

Why do these games always have a ranged attack that does no damage and serves no purpose other than letting autists keep their combos going?

>>723854335
watch someone disagree with you by posting a video of someone beating margit naked level 1 by exploiting frame perfect dodges and full knowledge of his moveset as if a newbie was capable of doing that

>>723854350
NG4 would have had good will if it had no yellow paint and stole more from NGB or 2.

I played Ninja Gaiden Black in.....what was it? 2003? 2005?

It's been 20 fucking years

>>723854335
>impossible if you don't exploit the "tools to make it easier".
Careful now, you'll trigger the /v/ "you didn't beat the game" buzzword

>>723854335
>grind levels
You mean explore the huge area that you're meant to explore before killing Margit?

>>723851753 (OP)
>Ninja Gayden
>ever being nothing but overrated shit

I hate normies so much it's unreal...
They keep buying every boring rollslop simulator and when a real action game comes out they skip it. It's so fucking depressing. I guess, all we gonna get now is even more shitty uninspired soulslikes.
Action games are dead and normies killed them. Total normie death.

>>723854996
>normies
normalfag post

>>723851753 (OP)
I ain't touching comboslop, where's the soulslike Ninja Gaiden?

>>723851753 (OP)
I simply don't buy overpriced games at release, especially games that ask me to pay 90 dollars for the promise of unfucking the MC of the franchise at a later date. I doubt the game will be a financial loss however, the budget can't have been that high and it will have Gamepass and console sales to prop it up. Even a 11k peak ought to translate to sales around the 100k mark.

>>723851753 (OP)
literally platinum game slop from 2015, a ps3 game does not deserve full price after both Bayonetta 3 and fucking Babylon's Fall

>>723854996
>normie
Kek the irony of this post

>>723854335
>Elden Ring is borderline impossible if you don't exploit the "tools to make it easier".
What do you consider an exploit? I played through the entire game with a great shield and antspur rapier literally just holding L1 and tapping R1 on every single enemy. Aside from like 1-2 bosses, every single challenge, even the DLC bosses, were a joke.

>kick Ryu out
>new protag is so boring and doesn't carry any weight like Nero
>whole cast is braindead bland
>Bamham magnetism
>Follow the uninspired yellow brick road of modern vidya
>poor performance
>unreplayable
>hard mode isn't what it used to be
I'm not paying 70 bucks for this plus tip.

>>723853194
yup it's this

it failed because it is not woke enough. the masses have spoken, chuds.

>be 5 year old target audience
>watch cartoons
>realise an object is a different shade of colour
>focus on the object
>something happens to the object

>be 25 year old target audience
>play games
>can't figure out where to go without a gallon of yellow paint covering the environment

How did this happen?

>>723855253
>>poor performance
works on my machine

What even is the reason for introducing a new protag

>B-but DMC4
People didnt like Nero back then either

>>723852123
I avoided it because of the talk of it being difficult. Just not in the mood for a fast, tense game

>>723855606
I didn't mind nero as much but in V he was too much of a fag for me to enjoy

>>723851753 (OP)
All the gamers who might buy this are playing digimon and having a comfy time with waifumons
You should have had a waifu to market the game

>>723851753 (OP)
>went all in
Not even a Team Ninja game

is the platinum curse. the better the game the les people play it.
thats why no one played one of the best and most creative action game ever created

>>723855849
Tons of people played Metal Gear Rising though.

The fuck am I supposed to do when there's a million jetpack guys in the air?

>>723855849
W101 was putrid dogshit thoever

>>723856010
Use the wire to get on top of drones and attack from there or use flying swallow.

I hate how you’re supposed to be constantly parrying or blocking to avoid damage. The older games let you still be aggressive while using agility to dodge attacks. NG4 just turns into a visual clusterfuck quick and expects you to know which fast moving enemy out of twenty on screen you need to parry or block first to get initiative

>>723851753 (OP)
>They clearly went all in with this game
Are you blind? The game looks hyper budget. All the environments look procedurally generated.

>>723856129
I do that but once I land they bend Yakumo over and violate him.

>>723851753 (OP)
>mediocre franchise with bad reputation
>horrible ports of the old games
>ports are also overpriced
>70 dollar price tag for latest game
>no cool fanservice like Stellar Blade
>genre isn't that popular to begin with

I'm playing it through Game Pass

>>723856350
Try to do the izuna drop combo, for some reason Platinum decided that a lot of Yakumo's air finishers with the dual swords should leave him extremely vulnerable.

>Team Ninja will not get closed because it's just Yakuza money laundering pot
>PlatinumGames will

>>723853578
>>723854095
>CAG
Retarded name and concept for the genre. This is precisely the reason why it's dead.

>>723854142
To be fair Platinum hasn't made anything of value since Nier Automata.

>>723854335
>When you run into Margit at the first few minutes of the game you meet a boss that is practically impossible unless you go grind levels to outstat him.
Actual skill issue. Ninja Gayden niggers confirmed for absolute scrubs.

>>723851753 (OP)
Better Man of War was right. We must be better games.

>>723856823
Back in my day, we just called them hack n slashes. Not sure what faggot came along to change that

>>723851753 (OP)
>no denuvo
>on gamepass
Never stood a chance on PC let's be honest.

>>723851753 (OP)
it's literally over

>>723852693
>be OP
>act like a faggot

>>723854335
I spent like 4 hours trying to kill the first horse knight and margit and actually did it. It's not that bad.

>>723857192
PC gaming is fucked. A single fitgirl torrent is almost 60% of the max concurrent count.
There's a reason why devs like bamco are flocking to denuvo.

>>723857192
Nah I don't see chinks being interested in this since the characters aren't cool not super hot.

>>723857464
Chinks are the biggest pirates on PC unlike Browns their PCs can run games.

>>723857086
Apparently the term became popular because of TotalBiscuit.

>>723854335
>Soulsfags are now calling exploration and using the basic RPG mechanics of an aRPG game "exploits" so they can pretend it's hard
Retard, you're not supposed to fight Margit or the Tree Sentinel the moment you start the game, they have much higher stats than you on purpose. It's to beat it into your head that the game is fully open world and you can go exploring anywhere to get stronger.

>>723851753 (OP)
>what went wrong?
The PC port is fucking awful. Same thing happened with ghosts of tsushima where they purposely fucked up the pc version and made it run awful.

>muh piracy did this
The absolute state

>>723854335
8/10 bait good job

>>723857446
fitgirl has amassed a community of beta orbiters who seed torrents they will never actually install
after that you have thirdies who can't play the game because it costs 3 months salary and their supreme leader banned vidya
then people who will play it for less than steam's refund period before uninstalling
very few of those people could be considered potential customers

>>723857446
Yes please poison more games with Denuvo fellow sars.

>>723851753 (OP)
I didnt know it came today my friends didnt know either. Still just finished playing. Nice giggles and girls are cute, good gore, reminds me revengeance and I loved that game.

>>723857560
Wukong and Stellar Blade would have sold well in China regardless of Denuvo because they like monkeys and hot women. Ninja Gayden has no appeal to what is now the biggest audience. Not like Americans would care also.

>>723857878
Except this is true because normies have bad taste and don’t pirate so only bad games get made, when you pirate a game that’s good the studio makes no money and they either close or sell off. And when it comes to trend chasing I really wonder how many game series that went to shit could have been good without pirating, because very obviously if a game underperforms the team is forced by upper management to follow trends that are successful and the games go to shit. And then niggers on /v/ say “what were they thinking why didn’t they just make the old one?” Cool but did you buy the old one or did you pirate it/wait for a 70% sale? I swear this board more than any other doesn’t know how money works.

>>723858010
>implying that pirating a CCP backed game won't give you a golden ticket to a fucking work camp

It just looks so zoomery and sanitized. It even has yellow paint. NG is supposed to look both beautiful and gritty. The art direction here is atrocious, not just bad, atrocious.

>>723858139
It looks good

>>723857791
Most thirdies have PCs that look Iike this. They aren't virtue signaling shit for that bitch.

I watched the stream of the game for like 2 minutes and during that time protagonist was talking to NPC
Said NPC looked cooler than the protagonist, was like 2 heads taller and much more muscular. Why is protag getting cucked by not being the coolest guy in his game?

>>723858127
If that was the case then there wouldn't be a reason to use Denuvo.

>>723852123
First time I heard this game was even releasing.

>>723858086
Name one good game series that died because of piracy rather than bad releases or bad marketing.

>>723858275
>no deunuo
>40gbs
>8 year old pc specs
Yet retarded zoomers like yourself insist on telling the world your opinions based off a video you saw.
You faggots disgust me

Just buy 10 copies, saar. Show us the power of The First World.

>>723852941
>here's a game to play
>wtf you can't do that!!!??
Players (you) expect to.. walk pass them, and not play the game?

>>723855849
You can stop pretending. The Wii U lost.

>>723858230
It looks just like ghost wire tokyo and 30 other chinese slop anon. Cyberpunk shit and a zoomer protagonist what the fuck were they thinking

>>723858585
Cyberpunk is kino. Eat shit.

>>723851753 (OP)
Sorry I'm a wagie and don't have time

>>723855849
t. Halitosis

>>723858275
Humiliation ritual.

>SIXTY NINE NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS
>SIXTY NINE NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS
>SIXTY NINE NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS

>>723851753 (OP)
>platinum slop with character designs by the most obvious feminist
>yellow paint
>hayabusa defeated by an unlikeable twink who you play as for the majority of the game
>hayabusa has only one weapon
>ayane only shows up for one scene
>yellow paint
>female characters are made safe horny
>yellow paint
>awful animations
>yellow paint
>???
>did i mention yellow paint

>>723851753 (OP)
its kinda worse than ng2 which already is a heavily flawed masterpiece... and they released ng4 in the middle of the week for some retard reason?

I'd buy it if it had 1980s anime aesthetics like the original NES games.
This looks like mid-2000s white-hexagon futurism. Boring.

>>723858503
Yea like Sekiro, the superior action game.

>>723857635
>much stronger than you enemy appears early

I hate this so much. If i am not supposed to fight the enemy now, why am i encountering it? Most of the time i just bash my head until i manage to kill the enemy, and they end up being the hardest fight of the entire game, because for the late game ones i am much more stronger and have much more experience with the game's mechanics

>>723852620
Its the fucking entire west. Ever since that fucking crypto boom something snapped and now its just NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS LOOK AT MY CHART LOOK AT THE ARROW GOING UP N DOWN in regards to fucking everything.

Motherfuckers are the same types that fucking buy labubus, trend chase, and do what the algorithm tells them too, but they'll come on /v/ and larp as a free thinker.

Anyone who starts bringing numbers into vidya discussion needs to be told to fuck off and head back to TikTok, X, Reddit, whatever shithole

>>723859198
The game is trying to teach you that you get stronger by exploring and leveling up

>>723859006
kek, of course. It's a soulskiddie

I'll pay up to $60 for Nioh 3, no more than $50 for Ninja Gaiden.

>>723852693
NG2 Black only peaked 2k in Steam, what are you expecting for NG4?

>>723858859
mid 00s is peak aesthetics

>>723859970
I got 2000s-aesthetic fatigue sometime around early 2004.

>no Ryu
>no other playable characters
>no co-op
A. k. a., trash.

>>723857706
>Same thing happened with ghosts of tsushima where they purposely fucked up the pc version and made it run awful.
Nah, you're just a poorfag with potato PC.

>>723860073
>no Ryu
At least get your facts straight before you shitpost

>>723853341
To be completely fair they are probably counting cs2 as f2p and while it technically free, its unplayable unless you have prime and Id argue the entire community has prime.

>>723860332
That's still only $15. And to be completely fair on the other end, most of those "over $50" games were probably bought on sale when they were well below 50 bucks.

>>723859530
this

>>723852583
This. It’s Razor’s edge with the damage sponge enemies of Sigma 2 with a bit of platinum slop thrown in for good measure. I’m disappointed desu. Serves me right for playing a ng game not made by oatmeal cookie. I can’t believe I fell for it AGAIN.

>>723857446
Thats completed downloads vs peak online though, its its honestly not even that large of %.
And for more successful games pirate-to-sales ratio is probably going to be even lower. Because who the hell buys indieslop#32767 outright if they can try it first. Steam refund is not always a solution either.

>>723851753 (OP)
the game is literally free on Gamepass

it's a 15-20 hour long $70 game from a really old franchise yet a completely new studio is making it with a new protagonist. it also has 0 DRM and is on gamepass so most people were probably skeptical and got it for cheaper means as opposed to spending 70 on it. i thought it would have way lower numbers on steam since these games typically filter normies

>>723863030
The game is 10 hours long

>>723851753 (OP)
i boughtened one month of PC game pass to play it.

>>723852123
I remember playing one of the Ninja Gaiden games and got my ass beat a lot. After finishing the game, all my fingers hurt, my wrist hurt, my hands in general were hurting. And I was pissed off for an entire week.

I think they're good games if you're skilled enough but I'm not so. I'm also older now.

>>723859461
Don't bother anon he is too retarded to understand the nuance of exploration.
He just a linear level Andy.

>>723863323
I have 11 hours in it and I'm on chapter 11

>>723851753 (OP)
>Seriously what went wrong?
microsoft

>>723851753 (OP)
it's $70
I'm a cheap fuck

>>723851753 (OP)
>Seriously what went wrong?
I don't buy video games anymore
Sorry, faggots

>>723857446
Link?

Did you guys actually think it would be any more than this?
This franchise was never big, it was never even medium sized, it's always been tiny no matter what your headcanon says

>>723865061
It's all shitposting and history revisionism in service of that shitposting

>>723851753 (OP)
>too poor and the game was too expensive for me to get it
>decided to just pirate it and play that way
>having so much fun to the point i felt guilty for pirating such a quality game
Especially now seeing the game seemingly underperforming.
I uninstalled the game now just so the temptation of opening the game again doesn't happen. Really wish i could play the game legit.

>>723859198
you inbred retard, you can kill the tree sentinel as a rl1 character, just git gud and play the game

>>723851753 (OP)
I don't need to buy games that costs much more than a coffee, nigga, blessed be the backlog who shields us from poor financial decisions through the strength of past poor financial decisions.

>>723853142
We still get both Ninja Gaiden and Nioh, what are you complaining about? More different games = better.

>>723854531
who gives a shit about yellow paint

>>723865810
Selling less than VTMB2 is pretty atrocious even for a niche IP.

>>723851753 (OP)
>lower all-time peak than Rise of the Ronin
Oof.