Thread 723854269

What is the best gaming mouse and why is it the Logitech G502?

The form just fits my hand. That's all. I like it. I'm on my sixth one, with daily usage over a decade.

>>723854269 (OP)
I, as well, use the Hero. (Wired, thoughbeit)

This thing is a bitch to clean, my only complaint. I wash my hands regularly but it still gets gunked up.

>Literally the best ergonomic gaming mouse on the market
>Fucking sold out constantly

I broke my first one playing Tf2 for over 3k hours years ago. Idk why I bothered asking logitech for any answers on self repair but they just said fuck it and sent me a new one, no fucking way that would happen now

>>723854269 (OP)
>logitech
>best
lol

>using any mouse over 35 grams
do you even aim bro?

>>723854269 (OP)
Razer Deathadder has been serving me well for like 6 years, and when it died a few years ago they send me the Deathadder 2 for free.

>>723854557
>I can't use a heavy mouse. It's not because I'm a weak! Shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>723854717
>uncaps dick

>>723854269 (OP)
Logitech has the double clicking issue, the sensor spin out issue, and the creaky body issue. At this point, there’s no reason to ever buy a Logitech over a Zowee or Vader if you’re going mechanical. The Deathadder/Basilisk/Viper have serious QA issues too and their software is egregiously bad.

The smaller brands are where it’s at now. Vaxee/LAMZU/Zowee/Hitscan/Ninjutso/Fantech are the way of the future but they don’t market hard so you have to purposefully find them.

I still use a CM MM730 but CM is dead.

>>723854717
yes i have weak arms now
:3

>>723854717
literally no esports (FPS) player uses a mouse over 40 grams

>>723854454
Some Linus adjacent channel did a review of it months ago and that's why it's always sold out. It's ended up being the best selling mouse that Keychron makes and for good reason, it's the ONLY high quality ergo mouse with good specs suitable for gaming.

>>723854557
I wish more mice allowed you to add weights to it, I miss the one I had that did this

>>723854269 (OP)
It just werks. I've had to open it to clean the scroll wheel a couple times, which is fine, but some of the softer material on the thumb wing broke off in the process. It's otherwise been running problem free for like 9 years. No double clicking, scroll wheel still rolls and catches as good as the day I got it

>>723854975
because they're all trannies with weak noodle arms who need to be pinned down and made boypregnant

>still has a million crevices in the rubber sides that you can't clean without causing damage
what in the actual fuck is logitech's problem

>>723854975
Are YOU an esports player?
Will you ever be one, even with light mouse?

>>723854454
looks fucking gay anon

>>723855169
Wrong.

>>723854269 (OP)
Cheap, works, comfortable, buttons

>buying from a company that has known for years about it's QC issues (double-clicking) but refuses to do anything about it
no thank you!

>>723855257
rrat

op1 8k

>>723854269 (OP)
Do they make this without the textured rubber grips? I like the shape and size of the mouse, but those grooves accumulate oils and dead skin and are miserable to clean.
I've made it a point to only use mice without those features since they're easier to maintain.

>>723855431
wheres your grip tape sis

What do you guys use for mouse pads? Is Artisan Zero overrated?

>>723856042
Some chinese boob mat.
I like boobs.

>>723854269 (OP)
it's the g9

>>723856042
Depends what you're using it for. I'm sure some ricer shit out there is maybe needed for CS at the pro-est of levels, but I'm currently using a 14 year old razer mat. Might switch to the hyperx pulsefire because it's large and cheap, but at the end of the day as long as the grip on top isn't terrible, you can't go wrong too much.

>>723854975
nigger who the fuck cares about esports

>>723856042
skypad is the only answer

>>723856042
I use a crappy steelseries hard mouse pad that i got 12 years ago.
It's only really "crappy" in that it's small, but I don't have a lot of spare desk space so that fault isn't something that I ever consider.
The pad has lasted me for over a decade and never given me any problems, whereas a cloth pad would've worn out by now, multiple times over. I've always liked hard pads, and if I ever move or get a bigger desk, I'll be upgrading to a larger hard pad.

>>723856294
>$100 mousepad
no thanks!

>>723856390
your loss, they last forever. been using the same one for like 7 or 8 years now
glass is the way to go.

>>723854269 (OP)
>thumb rests on a button
No thanks.

>>723856042
I used a glass mouse pad for the longest time, they feel better in general. But now I'm using an artisan zero. There is just more flexability to techniques you can use with it compared to glass. '

>>723854975
>esports player
Well known for being strong. Someone please post the noodle arm chink

>>723854513
Unfortunetly they are generally the best mice by an embarrassingly large margin. I wish they didn't have such a monopol, but here we are. The only people who can break free from logitech are fingetip aimers.

>>723856481
cool i and many others have been using pads for 10+ years at this point. you don't need a glass mat anon, but they're fine to have.

>>723854975
what does the intellimouse weigh? you're full of shit nigger

>>723854269 (OP)
>chink mouse
nuh uh

>>723854269 (OP)
>Already double click on button 4
Goddammit

>>723854975
Next you will tell us they use those wireless mouse and they're better than wired
Imagine falling for marketing

>>723854906
None of these are real issues. Any mouse you use alot will develop double-click. 100% of plastic mouses creek. Eliminating mouse creek with metal is like metals only use case. Spin out is a pad issue. Its actually insulting you suggest logitech has an spinout problem because they're the only mouse in the market that has eliminated spin out.

>>723857720
Wireless is literally better than wired. The technology has progressed to a point where both wired and wireless are bottlenecked by BUS frames. Eliminating cable drag is a real thing. Cable drag adds a small degree of randomness to your aim. Before wireless mouses people used pic related to deal with cable drag.

which mouse brand doesn't start double clicking after 2 years?

>heavy piece of shit from logitech that gets double clicking and scroll wheel issues
no
>>723857720
They are. How is it marketing to not have a wire slightly dragging you in a direction? Retard bottom fragger.
>>723858163
History for me is that logishit has a 100% double clicking rate and every other brand has 0%.

>>723857720
The difference between wired and 2.4ghz wireless today is like the difference between any Wooting keyboard and a Lemokey P1 or a Slice75 HE. 99.99% of the people on this planet aren't going to notice, not even most pros.

>>723858525
Logitech.
Idk wtf people do but my G502Hero has gone through 8 years of heavy usage without doubleclicking

>>723858564
There IS NO DIFFERENCE
Both wired are wireless top performance on the market right now is 125ms BUS frames. They are gated by the nature of USB. Wireless mouses can actually send HID out RF signals faster than wired can.

>>723858760
*microseconds not milliseconds

>>723858543
Nah you're a faggot I've soldered enough mouse switches for logitech shit to stop buying them

>>723858724
just because it hasnt happened to you doesnt mean it doesnt happen to a lot of other people. if you google logitech and double clicking (or some issues with scroll wheel), you'll see for yourself.
>>723858525
i've had my steelseries for 3 years now, not a single problem. had a logitech for a year before that and had to get rid of it.

>>723854269 (OP)
Mine is starting to have a problem with the mouse wheel sometimes getting rigid, probably due to dirt or something building up, but I have no idea how to disassemble this thing and I'm also afraid of just breaking it.

>>723859394
>Turn it over
>Remove the black stickers
>Unscrew about 4 screws
>Strong arm the shell off because holy fuck
>Blow out the scroll wheel
>Reassemble
>Note: the ribbon cable sits in a holder, if it comes loose just put it back in
It's a popular mouse so there's video guides

>>723858917
You can literally Google any mouse x double click and get results. I googled steelseries double click and bam, like 10 pages of results

>>723854269 (OP)
My mouse wheel is finally giving out after a solid 8 years.

>>723854975
Esports?

my g502's side rubber wore down to the plastic after only 3 years of use

>>723859886
Why are you clawing at it

>Double clicks after 6 months
>Scrollwheel stops working
>Wonky shape

>>723859646
anon steelseries isn't known for their double clicking and logitech is. stop being so fucking obtuse you ape

actually nevermind dont bother responding, keep buying logitech shit. have fun.

>>723858163
Damn. You’re so wrong that I actually think you’re a Logitech shill. Any mouse enthusiast could tell you that optical switches physically cannot double click like mechanical switches.

>cable drag
We need to start treating you guys like audiophiles that buy those huge shielded audio cables.

Move aside plebians

The King is walking in.

No u cant get it anymore, it was a limited release. Shouldve bought it then friendo

>>723854269 (OP)
I've had the same G502 since 2014 what am i gonna do when it finally dies

>>723860153
Never had a comfier mouse since.

>>723860446
you can buy another g502, it's still one of the most popular mice logitech has and they've released multiple more modern variants. Relatively cheap mouse, seems to last a long time. Just buy another one bro, who cares.

>>723854416
Any tips? Scroll wheel startin to gum up and I've got about all I can with a toothpick

>>723860740
Get a can of compressed air and start blasting

>>723860765
Damn, I really gotta buy air huh, ah well

>>723860740
>>723860765
>>723860849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dap5lEuS5uM

>>723854269 (OP)
The "not a real gamer" mouse. Great for casual gamers and nice unlocking scroll wheel but no one serious is using the G502.

>>723856042
I used the CoolerMaster deskmat because Zy recommended it and thought it was good. I think most pads are good unlike mice which can really suck. Use whatever you like brah. Some S rank players still use a QcK Heavy.

>>723858448
This mouse bungees fucking suck to constantly mess with. If you have the choice try wireless

>>723860849
Take the compressor pill and never buy canned air again. Canned air is full of bitterants to prevent people from huffing it and that sprays all over your stuff and makes it smell/sticky. Money saved too. A small one is under $500

>>723861062
was waiting for the explosion

>>723861156
same

>>723861062
Classic

>>723854269 (OP)
>best
>anything logitech
LOL

>>723861691
Logitech used to be king before the enshittification of the company. Their decline in quality over the past decade is depressing.

>>723854975
esports goys use what their sponsors tell them to

>>723854269 (OP)
The side buttons are doubleclicking

>>723855128
Not all of them, but google tells me he uses BenQ ZOWIE ZA13 and that's 80g.

>>723854269 (OP)
Wrong.

>>723861119
Take that compressor and keep huffing your own farts

>>723854454
Genuinely this mouse is so fucking good, took me a solid week to get used to it, but I'm never going back. The only teething problem with vertical mice is learning how to passively "brace" the mouse so clicking doesn't cause it to do a little flick. You drag your little finger on the mat and use it like an anchor and it stops it happening.

I have been using this basic M110 logitech for the past 15 years and only replaced it once. But Im looking for a new mouse right now and I was always wondering how noticeable are the buttons on the sides like here >>723856516

This model interested me bc it still looks very basic (not like a fucking transformer like some other gaming mice ive seen lol) so it wouldnt be too different from my old model but Im concerned that I will constantly be aware of the buttons on the sides when gripping the mouse and maybe its even uncomfortable or annoying.

>>723854269 (OP)
i like using the red dragon m913, it's chinese and cheap but it works well and has lasted me longer than either of my razer nagas i had before it

Any good ones with optical switches? I need a new mouse

>>723862457
your thumb rests below the buttons with the grove that is there for that exact reason. for casual browsing of 4chan, etc. your thumb will probably lay on the back button since that's what Back is used for.

cannot imagine using any mouse in 2012+13 that doesn't have 2 side buttons, would be a huge handicap.

thoughts on the comparison between g502 and g502x? I might replace my normal g502 with the g502x soon

I have the Razer Basilisk V3
And the only only annoying as hell thing it has is that I CANNOT rest my middle finger, because it's mouse buttons go over the sides. So I'm pressing right mouse click constantly which is insanely annoying. But I needed it for the fast as fuck infinity scroll. Can't do Logitrech since they are shit, but my OLD G502 didn't have this problem. That was my best mouse ever.

all mice feel like shit

>>723865085
So what do you just mentally control your PC?

any other good mice with the same button count? all the popular shit has like 6 buttons

>>723862093
Kino mouse, got mine during 2019 never looked back

>>723865449
neuralink users are built different

>love the g502's features
>hate the shape
>love the deathadder's shape
>lmao razer quality
Is there anything that's a deathadder but made by a better company, or with a bit more functionality?

>>723865449
i use mice, and i hate them

>>723854550
This dude has never heard of isopropyl alcohol, fucking rip

>>723854454
It's kind of funny to me that at this point Keychron's best products are mice and not keyboards. They get mogged by the likes of Wooting and Aula for high quality budget boards.

>>723854269 (OP)
I like the 502 but I've broken like 10 of them. They don't take me smashing them on my desk in anger with sheer retard strength very well. The buttons tend to hold up, but the scroll wheel loses its ability to click.

>>723854269 (OP)
402*

>>723856042
some shitty pad that came with my gpu

>>723864545
bump

>>723854910
aw the loser lost their boy muscle. what can you do if youre pinned? nothing

>>723854454
I was waiting for one for a month and I pulled the trigger on the negro version even though I wanted white
2 days later the white version was in stock
since then I've coped myself into believing that the white plastic would get uglier faster

>>723854269 (OP)
Is it worth the cost?

>>723869379
yes

>>723854717
>strength means dragging an object 1/200th the weight of a decent dumbbell across a low friction surface instead of a 1/600th one

the g403 was better

Unfortunately, discontinued.
Went through 3 of them. Each had LMB hyperclicking >1year.

Fuck that company, holy shit.

>>723854269 (OP)
*double clicks*

>gaming mouse
my fucking wrist hurts because I listened to you fags and started gaming with a mouse. You game with a controller, not a mouse.

>>723856042
I use one of those big desk mats

>>723854269 (OP)
>*double clicks*

>>723869897
Plant your elbow
If that doesn't work get a vertical mouse
Don't pretend like controllers can't hurt either

>>723869994
>Play Splatoon with controller
>Use brush
>mfw

I need a vertical mouse with at least four buttons (left, right, forward, back) and two scroll wheels (vertical, horizontal), preferably wired. I play mostly strategy games and no shooters. Any suggestions?

>>723870023
That's literally >>723854454

>>723854269 (OP)
Should I upgrade?

>>723870153
Does it come in black?

>>723869994
>Plant your elbow
Your desk size and mouse mate must be insane to do this. 65 centimeter length desk and I can't do this without my mouse being on the edge of the mat.

>>723870219
Yes, there's a black version. Stock is limited as fuck though.

>>723870219
Yes anon it does come in the nigger color

>>723870219
Yes
you can turn it wired with your own cables too but in practice it's so good you're only shaving off 0.2ms of latency

>>723869994
Controllers don’t hurt me. For two and half decades I controllers no problem. I game with mouse for 6 months being cautious of posting and doing stretches before and after gaming and I feel immense pain. It’s not worth it. I’ll stick to controllers.

>mouse started double clicking after a few months
>Changed it out
>Started double clicking again
>Now the third mouse has started double clicking in less than a year
This garbage cost me like 90 euro

>>723854269 (OP)
G502X is fine, but it's going to give you carpal tunnel.
Full vertical mice are also a bit of a meme.

Something like the MX Master shape would be perfect, but even the new one is limited to 125hz.
So carpal tunnel it is.

>>723870219
does it come with dubs like these?

>>723870153
What's the difference between the M5 M6 M7 M8 etc. ? Wouldn't the highest number be the latest and best model?

>>723870325
Forgot to mention, it was the asus rog harpe ace aim lab garbage. I miss my qpad 5k, that shit lasted for like 7 years

>>723870325
get optical switches next time.
they don't doubleclick.
The double clicking is caused by the electrical contacts scorching over time. You see it less on office mice and wireless mice as they don't run as much voltage over the switches.
USB Gaming mice routinely run 5v (line voltage) over the switches. Wireless mice 3.7, 3 or 1.5v (Li-Ion/LiPo voltage/ 2x AA / 1x AA) and office generally use a resistor to go to ~1.2v
Gaming mice run the higher voltage since it has provably better latency that way is free to implement - but the switches don't last.

>>723870227
use your chair's armrest, it's there for a reason
though it's better to get an L shaped desk
actual desks are shit and they were never intended to be used for gaming to begin with

Some people here last bought a PC in 2015 and it shows

>>723870518
the sensor is top tier
there's a reason keychron m5 shows up in the top 10 mice while the others don't

>>723860153
Had 2, both died to double clicking switches.
Never buying non optical switches again.

>>723870613
So the M5 is actually the latest model despite being the lowest number? WTF

>>723864545
>>723863326
g502x has optical switches.
It also has a huge groove right where you might put your hand in the wired versions, so if you're palm grip maybe consider the wireless or something else entirely. Wireless version has plastic fill in the groove and it's where it lights up for RGB, on wired it's just a huge empty groove.

>>723855431
can't even detach the cable lmao

>>723870543
Any recommendations for models?

>>723870708
names are made by people
they don't have to make sense

>>723870708
The M5 is in a category of its own because the M6 and 7 aren't vertical mice, they're just bog standard ergo mice.

>>723854269 (OP)
After over 20 years of Logitech, last month current one died and I went with Razer.this time. Logitech is super ultra junk these days.

>>723870543
>optical switches
Who uses them, other than Razer?

>>723870880
>Skipped modern Logitech because the build quality is shit (correct)
>Went to Razer
Oh no no no

>>723870543
is the g502 x optical?

>>723870951
lol no

>>723870914
Ikr, but it fit my hand best out of local selection so...

>>723870883
logitech, corsair,
>>723870951
yes
https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/logitech/g502-x

I wish the mx master 3s wasn't so heavy (and that the software wasn't ABJECTLY GARBAGE JEETSHIT), it's lasted pretty well as my office mouse despite carrying it around in my backpack, i love horizontal scroll wheels

>>723871226
I'd get one for gaming if it wasn't limited to 125hz.

surprisingly good for being a chink-clone of the gpro

>>723870867
>>723870708
>>723870613
>>723870518
>>723870153
>>723854454
>sold out everywhere

>>723871663
Yep, welcome to the absolute bitch of getting one. Here in Bongistan it took me weeks of watching for a restock before a couple turned up on Amazon.

The ultimate mice so far
>I want the lightest mouse possible
>Zaunkoenig M3K
Made out of actual carbon fiber and light as fuck, good quality, but has a mini body style 2 clicks and a wheel and nothing else which, besides the price and long wait, is the downside

>I want the most extra buittons/features possible
>Swiftpoint Z2
Has some amazing features (pic related), great design so that all the buttons are easily reachable and identified, comprehensive software (now Linux native/compatible, buit its still something of a beta on Linux). The downside is that the cord is attached and there's no wireless option yet (maybe a later revision) and its "heavy" but still lighter than most mice in the days of adding custom weights to them.

>I want a mouse that's FOSS hardware and software customizable
>Ploopy Mouse / Trackball models
3D printed body and able to be built from a kit, Ploopy's hardware is custom but also well documented. Their mouse is a pretty conventional layout with an extra button or two and the roller bearings can be loud, but if you want control of the hardware as well as the software, its worth looking into it.

>I want something ergonomic, but gaming/power use featured
>Dygma upcoming mouse project
Dygma makes some of the best gaming/power use split ergonomic keyboards like the Raise 2 and Defy, but its an open secret they're working on a similarly high end ergo mouse project. Not yet available, but keep watching

>>723871663
it's literally the only vertical mice that's actually good for vidya
it has no competition
there's always r*zer pro click v2 vertical but that one doesn't have a horizontal scroll wheel and it's r*zer

>>723854319
>Fucking sixth one

Not very reliable is it

>>723867080
Pulsar Xlite or maybe Zowie EC1

>>723858760
any idea what endgame gear is doing with their wired mice to achieve those insane motion latency timings? i'm not talking about the spdt clicks (which are amazing too).

>>723854454
>pinky scrapes the mousepad as you use the mouse
nah

>>723872691
Stop being a wee baby and build up a callous.

are modern razer mice even bad? i had one ~14 years ago and it was great (deathadder elite). no idea if the quality has gone to shit since then

>>723872847
Razer's quality has been ass for some time. About 2016-ish everything started dipping in quality hard.

>>723872798
or they could make a nice hook at the bottom for your pinky to sit on

>>723873036
I have to disagree because >>723862331

Vertical mice require some part of your hand to be planted on the mat to stop click flicks. It's something very noticeable if you don't brace for it, especially if you're new to verticals.

>>723872847
I liked mine for the most part. The scroll wheel on the deathadder is total ass, but the mouse lasted about 4 years

had this bad boy for 11y and even though it still works i got myself a logitech g305 just to try wireless, technology really has come a long way, wireless stuff used to suck back in the day

when will this shit become mainstream
I know it probably won't be a good replacement for a mouse but I'm sure bionics in general would be a leap forward

>>723873362
forgot pic

>>723873435
>>723873362
This will never become mainstream, too much physical effort for a slower outcome. The only thing that will replace mice is full brain control.

Are Chinese mice and keyboards actually worth it? I don't trust their software.

>>723861891
More likely they just haven't updated his since mice started getting lighter because he's been retired for awhile now.

>>723873743
When it comes to keyboards, the Chinks are in a league of their own these days. The software sucks, but all the best boards right now are Chinaman brands. It's kind of like how they're dominating the gamepad market with 8BitDo or GameSaar which blow the official controllers out of the water.

>>723854269 (OP)
It has 5 extra buttons. No other mice has that layout.

>>723873435
Shitty vr lite controller looking nigga

>>723871931
>Swiftpoint Z2

What the fuck were they thinking not adding a button here? ONE fucking job. G502 is still the best because of this.

>>723856642
Always liked Roccat way more for gaming but to each their own.

>>723873435
>>723873362
>He's just been... sitting there, for hours. Making that... gesture. Like he's stroking... but with his hand above the desk.
>He's just playing Counterstrike, Margaret.

>>723873435
won't work
the mouse takes very little energy to move around because your entire forearm is laying flat and your hand is resting on the mouse
the moment you have to hover your hand at an unnatural angle is where strain comes in

keyboard? k120. mouse? m100
anything more than that is for faggots and trannies

>>723856481
agreed but its still hype marketing. got a custom glasspad made by my local maker for a 3rd of the price.

>>723875162
nationality? brazillian

>>723875162
>1000 DPI
I need less.

>>723858448
I've been gaming for 30 years and I've never heard anyone mention or use this. Stop the shill

>>723854269 (OP)
G5 was better.

>>723855431
Seconded
Fastest clicks in the world

>>723858448
>Wireless is literally better than wired. The technology has progressed to a point where both wired and wireless are bottlenecked by BUS frame
They're not because the batteries in wired mice degrade way too fast and you have a set amount of recharge cycles until you have to replace them or use it as a wired one anyway.

>>723859886
I have the same one with the same problem. But I also use it for work so it gets heavy use. Next one I'm getting won't have any of that rubber shit, it's not durable enough. Full plastic it is.

>>723870543
>Gaming mice run the higher voltage since it has provably better latency that way is free to implement - but the switches don't last.
I don't know much about electrical engineering but does the entire circuit need 5v or could gaming mice just have implemented those resistors leading up to the switches while keeping the rest on higher voltage? Or couldn't the microswitch manufacturers make more suitable contacts?

>>723870325
>>723870543
I've had two G502s and they never doubleclicked
This meme is way too overblown

>>723873351
i bought one of these cause it was on sale and it started double clicking in about 6 months ffs

>>723874637
>teleports behind you
13 buttons, deep click on 4 buttons to have even more buttons in the buttons, and directional tilting for 4 more buttons.

>>723875348
huh? these have always been a thing for a very long time. not sure why you gaming for 30 years has any relevance to peripherals sold.

>>723877959
>>723874960

>>723876983
Wow anon! 2 mice that don't have defects means it's all perfect and everyone is lying! Cool lol!

>>723875348
That just means you were never big into competitive FPS.

>>723878076
Just tried pressing that spot with my thumb and I had to contort my hand (and I have big hands). It's a long mouse. It would be a useless button.

>>723871961
Im not sure what that anon is doing to his mice. I've had the same 502 for 10 years at this point

>>723856042
wood

I do not understand the heavy vs light thing

I had the mm711 coolermaster, was good but SO light even a small wire tension moved it.
Now i have this, THIS IS A BRICK in comparisong, and it EVEN got additional WEIGHTs, lol.

But still, for both the roll wheel is very shit.

>>723856042
Been using the same Steelseries qck for 10 years now

>>723856042
tempered glass from aliexpress

>>723856042
a big fucking slab of glass

>>723854269 (OP)
My side tilt clicker is fucking up AGAIN

I HATE THIS MOUSE

>>723878614
>>723878673
what's the point? less friction?

>had a rat7 for awhile but thumb button got loose/broke so got a new mouse
>2-3 mice later and my aim in games has only gotten worse
I dont know if it was the weights or what but somehow a fucking meme mouse was the best one I ever had.

>>723856042
im mexican btw if that matters

>>723878714
obviously
if i could get a zero friction mousepad i would, it's basically reducing its weight

>>723878869
why are brown people absolutely obsessed with White nationalism

>>723878714
it also is a lot cooler in temp which feels nicer on the forearm for me, that's the main thing, plus it's really easy to clean vs a textured one that holds dead skin and dust

>>723879050
I live in England, that was just for comedic effect.

>>723879174
do people not just throw their mouse pads in the washing machine every couple of months?

>>723879224
washing machines fuck them up
you want a hand wash and that shit gets disgusting quickly
every time i washed my old cloth pad so much brown looking filth came out
it's impossible for my glass pad to even collect that shit

>>723878869
take notes >>723878869

>>723879358
>every time i washed my old cloth pad so much brown looking filth came out
What the fuck are you doing to your pad that you see a bunch of brown filth coming out? I scrub mine down in the bathtub every now and then and barely see anything come off it. The only time I have is recently when my brother gave me an old pad back covered in dust.

>>723879206
>I live in England
my point still stands

>>723879224
idonno probably, I just spray a bit of isopropyl and wipe it off now, much easier and it's not like the chink glass was expensive like the resellers on amazon

>>723854269 (OP)
MCHOSE > Logitech

While we're on the topic, how do you get cum out of a mousepad? Asking for a friend.

>>723854454
i imported one through ali express, little bit more expensive but was here in europe within a week

>>723879613
i use it, or rather i used it
i went several months without cleaning it
glass doesn't require nannying it for several minutes and letting it dry for hours, you wipe it and you're done

>>723870279
this thread convinced me, i just ordered one of these

>>723879975
>i use it, or rather i used it
As toilet paper apparently. I've gone a long time without washing mine and never had that happen and I use my computer regularly.

>>723870543
Ah that makes sense then. My logitech m650 is still going strong and outlast my 3 gaming mice.

What's the cheapest optical switch to get I don't mind getting a chinese brand?

>>723880229
i admit i did eat on top of it quite often
still, i can eat on top of my glass pad and the cleaning takes literal seconds

>>723854389
did you buyder it from wal-mart too? (i did)

>>723880558
I EAT AT MY DESK TOO, NIGGA
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO YOUR POOR MOUSEPAD
ARE YOU EATING OFF OF IT?

>>723879206
>I live in England,
that's even more cringe

>>723854269 (OP)
This loud pingy shit doesn't hold a candle to the Basilisk

>>723877794
i had to fix stuff like 4 times including double clicking, fortunately it was easy to fix if i recall correctly, same as double scrolling or wheel button not working.

>>723880713
nothing
you're just imagining something worse than what the dirty water actually looked like

>>723882784
Get cqc'd dumbass

>>723854906
I love my zowie, but I can't justify buying another one. Apparently it's really difficult to take apart without braking it because of the way it's put together. For a mouse with a rechargeable battery I can't justify it

>>723875162
nice latency

>>723854269 (OP)
love the comfy evolution of this model, just wish higher end Logitech mice were as reliable as their cheapo models.

>>723854269 (OP)
I had an old razer deathadder, a v2. I really liked it and the positioning of its extra buttons, a simple but good cheap mouse. Then it eventually broke, so I dediced to buy another. The v3 and v4 deathadders have LESS FUCKING BUTTONS and are MORE EXPENSIVE than the v2. So I had to settle with a logitech g502, and I fucking hate this thing. The mouse wheel being able to unlock is useless and a waste of premium extra button space. The positions of the other extra buttons on the top and side of the mouse are awful, they are extremely awkward and uncomfortable to use. It took me forever to get used to it, and I still don't like it.

>>723854269 (OP)
Logitech G403/703 after they release the superlight version

>>723856042
I used an old Sports Illustrated magazine for an embarrassingly long time. I moved and needed something to use as a mousepad in a pinch, and then just kept using it for years afterwards.
I make roughly $105k a year.

>>723854269 (OP)
I only use symmetrical mice

>>723885461
is your hand symmetrical?

>>723854717
Heavy mice are for fat and sick people who need the inertia to average out their impaired, shaky motor control.

Light mouse is objectively just faster to move from point A to point B regardless of the strength of the user.

>>723885551
no but using claw grip it fits fine and sometimes I'll play slower games like civ left handed

>>723856042
a piece of tatami mat

>>723854269 (OP)
>G502
>the mouse that was never good because it's heavy as shit and an awkward segmented shape
>made even worse with nu-Logitech's nonexistent QC and catastrophic decline in material quality
>they even removed the paracord
The only Logitech mouse worth the effort is the Ultralight, and even then it's very fragile and will die on you.
Just get a cheap Chinese wireless mouse at 40-50 grams, it's a solved issue.

>>723876647
>couldn't the microswitch manufacturers make more suitable contacts
Yes, but money and feel.
thicker contacts have different feel.

>does the entire circuit need 5v or could gaming mice just have implemented those resistors leading up to the switches
5v is faster than the resistor, it's damaging but consider a 2008 landscape where click latency on mice was still a big deal (on any competent mouse it's basically solved now) and everyone was competing - that's how we got to where we are, even though the USB transceivers added more latency than killing switches over time.

>>723886797
G502X is light though and has optical switches.
The problem is it's not comfortable long term.

>>723858724
It's random. I had my old model 502 with the rusty wheel for God knows how many years and the only thing that ever double clicked was M4 but that's trivially fixed with AHK. I only got a new one because all the rubber eventually peeled off. The new model 502 had double clicking issues after two months. I replaced that one, and now it's been fine for years.
Modern gaming hardware is basically gacha. I had the same shit with the SeXbox pad, I had to replace it like three or four times until I got one that didn't have any issues 2m-1y in.

>>723863326
>>723870734
it only has them for RMB and LMB, not the others