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10 years later.. what's the verdict on Dark Souls 2 Scholar?

>Release date 02/04/2015
Anonymous No.723874608 [Report]
It's pure sovlfvl kino
Anonymous No.723874649 [Report] >>723883926 >>723887597
>>723874215 (OP)
it's my comfort game
Anonymous No.723874875 [Report]
last bastion before rollslop took over for good

not anywhere near as good or memorable as 1 but still solid for what it was.
Anonymous No.723875475 [Report] >>723888308 >>723888439
>>723874215 (OP)
>didn't fix lighting
>didn't improve game
pointless
Anonymous No.723875692 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
Did everything 1 did but better. It's the best game in the series, best dlc, best girl, best majula, best everything.
Anonymous No.723875747 [Report] >>723876085
That game stopped loading my gamesave after a reinstall. Fuck FROM SOFTWARE MIYAZAKI YOU SON OF A BITCH GO FUCK YOURSELF SUCK A BAG OF DICKS YOU RICE NIGGER
Anonymous No.723876000 [Report] >>723876085 >>723877175
>>723874215 (OP)
worse than the original
plays like a mod of someone who did half a playthrough of DS2
Anonymous No.723876085 [Report] >>723878223 >>723889270
>>723876000
Is there such a thing as a bad second half of the game, like the first game, in DaS2? I ask because I never got there >>723875747
Anonymous No.723876303 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
I despised the enemy placement, too crowded
Anonymous No.723877000 [Report] >>723877175
>>723874215 (OP)
Feels like playing 4 different games at once with the same character, very comfy.
Anonymous No.723877175 [Report] >>723877361
>>723876000
>>723877000
What is going on ITT
Anonymous No.723877361 [Report] >>723878973
>>723877175
Theres two sets of people.
Those that only played Scholar, so any pic of it makes them think about DS2 as a whole
And those that played DS2 on release and only see scholar for the cheap dx11 remix it was
Anonymous No.723877925 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
Same one it was a decade ago: pretty good
Anonymous No.723878223 [Report]
>>723876085
Yes, the second half of DS2 sucks just as much as the first half.
Anonymous No.723878973 [Report] >>723884007
>>723877361
Anon I think he was talking about the digits in those two posts
Anonymous No.723879636 [Report] >>723879960 >>723883968
>>723874215 (OP)
Can anyone who played og DS2 and scholar explain what scholar actually changed?
The only thing i've read is scholar adds Aldia and another ending + comes with all the dlc.
Anonymous No.723879846 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
started out as a kings field game out of 10
Anonymous No.723879960 [Report] >>723883968
>>723879636
Enemy placement (some REALLY retarded changes)
Petrified people
Anonymous No.723880264 [Report] >>723880308 >>723882692
>>723874215 (OP)
I'm neutral when it comes to ds2, but it brings a smile to face seeing obscure youtube channels expose all the ds2 critics as simply being bad at the game
Anonymous No.723880308 [Report] >>723880823
>>723880264
Being good at das2 makes you HATE das2.
Anonymous No.723880823 [Report]
>>723880308
Wrong, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqNvpRq_ZXk
Anonymous No.723881231 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
the downgrade was so laughably bad i lost all interest and never touched it despite 100ish hours in dark souls. Never played Watch Dogs either for the same reason.
Anonymous No.723881382 [Report] >>723883118
Pretty good with agape ring.
sage No.723882692 [Report] >>723883136
>>723880264
It's a shame Souls as an IP is so popular because 2 always had the makings of a janky cult classic
Anonymous No.723883118 [Report]
>>723881382
based dragon chad
Anonymous No.723883136 [Report] >>723884270
>>723882692
It is a janky cult classic.
It has many problems and it's shit compared to DS1 in terms of regular movement and combat due to how slow it is, with certain exceptions that are pure gold (backstabs and fog wall denial), but it's sovl when you actually learn to play around SM
Anonymous No.723883159 [Report] >>723884516 >>723889576
Only game in the series that understood what a souls game is supposed to be
Anonymous No.723883793 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
holy kino
i dont begrudge anyone who likes das1 better. but 3 tourists need a rope
Anonymous No.723883865 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
I like it. most played fromsoft game aside from elden ring purely because of the PVP.
Anonymous No.723883926 [Report]
>>723874649
This unironically
Anonymous No.723883968 [Report] >>723884516 >>723885212 >>723898034
>>723879636
>>723879960
The enemy placement and encounter design, ai behaviors, etc is better across the board in scholar. Take undead crypt for example. The vanilla game doesn't even feature skeletons. No skeletons in a crypt? Just retarded. And they made the bell gimmick much more important. In the vanilla game the ghost wraiths will just spawn regardless if the bells get rung, but in scholar you can destroy the bells to prevent a harder enemy from being spawned and ganking you. But the layout and design compensates for this by having more stones blocking your path you have to cut through and adds skeleton enemies to balance fighting and moving through the area, while also not ringing the bells in the process. It's simultaneously a more thoughtful and fair area, while also being more challenging if you screw up and lets the wraiths spawn. This is consistent with most areas in scholar as a whole. There's also more subtle changes than just enemies, like secrets, environmental decoration, etc that give each area more soul.
Anonymous No.723883986 [Report]
Anonymous No.723884007 [Report]
>>723878973
dw i'm retarded
Anonymous No.723884021 [Report] >>723884136 >>723884612 >>723892148
>>723874215 (OP)
this game fucking blows ass why are you all pretending it's good now
Anonymous No.723884136 [Report] >>723884731
>>723884021
>suddenly
It was always good regardless of what your favourite literally soulless youtuber told you
Anonymous No.723884270 [Report]
>>723883136
>t's shit compared to DS1 in terms of regular movement and combat due to how slow it is
The movement is way better and ds2 is much faster than 1
Anonymous No.723884516 [Report] >>723885038 >>723885828
>>723883159
its especially fun having to do that every time you want to fight the boss because scholar was made by retards

>>723883968
Castle Horse alone breaks any argument that scholar had decent enemy placement
Dragon in Heide, Iron Keep as a whole, Pursuer lmao, the skeleton in Aldias place, Ghost people in Shaded Woods proper
Even Undead Crypt was fucked in the last hallway to Velstadt by just shoving random Dragonriders there

Its feels like one of those retarded mods people keep putting on Nexus that just changes shit for the sake of it
Its like they went
>oh this place wasn't annoying/PREPARE TO DIE HARDCORE enough? Lets make it worse!
Anonymous No.723884612 [Report]
>>723884021
Because the other game that was made by this twat, elden ring, was so much worse
Anonymous No.723884726 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
Im trans btw
Anonymous No.723884731 [Report] >>723884806
>>723884136
>his faggot headcanon is his only defense of this horseshit game
this game is putrid ass, literally assaults my senses just looking at the horrible area and enemy designs. don't get me started on how horrible this shit feels to play. also you're a faggot for pretending to like it just to disagree with whatever video essayists you watch you projecting contrarian
Anonymous No.723884806 [Report] >>723886339
>>723884731
>instant melty buzzword galore
concession accepted lil man
Anonymous No.723885032 [Report] >>723885254
>>723874215 (OP)
Why don't they just patch the game where they remove the ADP stat and auto set it to like 25, so people aren't forced to waste levels on it?
They can also make it so you don't get hit while going through fog doors and once you open a regular door it stays open unless You close it.
The hollow HP diminish is annoying, because you're forced to waste a ring slot, but I don't really care about it.
Anonymous No.723885038 [Report] >>723886546
>>723884516
>its especially fun having to do that every time you want to fight the boss because scholar was made by retards
That's what a boss run is supposed to be. Before the series got taken over by soft casuals who expect a bonfire before every boss room.
>Castle Horse alone breaks any argument that scholar had decent enemy placement
Castle horse makes more sense than flexile snetry just chilling on the way to shaded woods
>Dragon in Heide
?
>Iron Keep as a whole
?
>Pursuer lmao
Optional fights that actually reinforce what the persurer is?
> the skeleton in Aldias place
A good change because the atmosphere of the area isn't decimated 5 seconds walking into the area with a cheap jump scare. And the gives the area some purpose and goal than just being a long hallway you walk down.
> the last hallway to Velstadt by just shoving random Dragonriders there
why would dragon riders not be there?
>oh this place wasn't annoying/PREPARE TO DIE HARDCORE enough? Lets make it worse!
ok so you're just soft and retarded and got filtered
Anonymous No.723885176 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
It's garbage, nothing about this pos feels good. Only a contrarian or fromtard would defend such garbage.
Anonymous No.723885212 [Report] >>723885464
>>723883968
>In the vanilla game the ghost wraiths will just spawn regardless if the bells get rung
Pretty sure that's a lie, if you kill the bell ringer in the hallway before Velstadt, the wraiths will not spawn

>The vanilla game doesn't even feature skeletons. No skeletons in a crypt? Just retarded.
But scholar is full of retarded placements that don't make sense.

The invisible bandits in the foggy part of Shaded Woods, which in the vanilla game don't appear anywhere else as they were clearly made for that area? Now they're in other parts of Shaded Woods where they're clearly visible, and they're just NPC fights

There are now Desert Sorceress in Dragleic Castle for some reason, where they look completely out of place

The falconers with broken walking animations are now littered around Shaded Woods and Brightstone Cove where they are on full display, genuinely bizzarre shit

There's a copy of the Executioner's Chariot horse in the middle of Drangleic Castle for some reason, even though previously this was a completely unique enemy to the boss fight

There's a random, single Heide's old knight in the middle of Shrine of Amana

They removed the giant deformed enemies (whatever they're called) at the bottom of Sinner's Rise, and added a copy of the Flexile Sentry that doesn't even fit through the elevator door lmao

I'm sure there's more but I haven't played Scholar in a while. It's just so obvious that changed a bunch of shit for the sake of it so that they could say Scholar was different enough, even if it made no fucking sense
Anonymous No.723885254 [Report] >>723885863
>>723885032
You dont need to put anything into adp if you dont want. Learn to play the game.
>They can also make it so you don't get hit while going through fog doors
oh so just cater to retard casuals who wanna run by everything and not get punished for it?
>The hollow HP diminish is annoying, because you're forced to waste a ring slot
No, you can use a human effigy to restore your hp. And it reinforces the themes of going hollow. But like usual, this retard soft fanbase just wants to be catered to because anything that isn't "press the roll button at the right time" and makes the game feel like an actual adventure game is muh annoying. lol
Anonymous No.723885464 [Report]
>>723885212
>if you kill the bell ringer in the hallway before Velstadt, the wraiths will not spawn
There's bells before the hallway and in those rooms the wraiths just spawn and gank your ass and there's nothing to do about it.
>The invisible bandits in the foggy part of Shaded Woods
how is that bad?
Anonymous No.723885828 [Report]
>>723884516
>its especially fun having to do that every time you want to fight the boss because scholar was made by retards
Smelter demon run is particularly painful but the same thing existed for DS1
Anonymous No.723885863 [Report] >>723886175
>>723885254
This is an annonymous board you retarded nigger. Nobody cares about you puffing your chest while pretending to be good at a video game.
Roll yourself off a cliff IRL.
Anonymous No.723886175 [Report]
>>723885863
>Nobody cares
You're the one spouting your feelings and arguing with muh feels. I dont care to argue with your feelings because they dont mean anything. Understand that for people who actually want a challenging and hardcore dungeon crawling experience, an rpg with depth, dont consider the game having adventure and elements of survival to be "muh annoying." That's just being a good game.
Anonymous No.723886306 [Report] >>723886398
>>723874215 (OP)
Is the Ivory King fight even doable without yhe assistance of the 4 knights? I'm actually tired of exploring the wintershit zone and don't want to search for all of them.
Anonymous No.723886339 [Report]
>>723884806
>buzzword galore
>not a single one in sight
yeah I'm thinking you got owned unc.
Anonymous No.723886359 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
game is objectively dogshit
redditors and youtube video essayists with a greenscreen are trying to astro-turf this game like it's some hidden gem
Anonymous No.723886394 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
game's ugly as a sin
Anonymous No.723886398 [Report]
>>723886306
>i'm actually tired of exploring and feeling like an adventurer
No, maybe stick to Call of Duty or DS3
Anonymous No.723886546 [Report] >>723887056
>>723885038
>Castle horse makes more sense than flexile snetry just chilling on the way to shaded woods
In what world does it make sense lol

>A good change because the atmosphere of the area isn't decimated 5 seconds walking into the area with a cheap jump scare.
How is the main setpiece of the area not working, a good thing? How does the skeleton coming alive naturally when you walk in ''destroy the atmosphere''? How is it better having to do a bunch of obtuse steps and then backtrack for it to come alive when you literally have zero reason to come back to the entrance lol

Do you think it's a ''cheap jumpscare'' when you enter the Eleum Loyce DLC and suddenly the doors fly open and ice tentacles shoot out?
Anonymous No.723887056 [Report] >>723889601
>>723886546
You're not even trying to argue the flexile sentry in shaded woods makes sense. An apparition appearing in Drangleic Castle that has brought together enemies from all these different lands makes more sense than that.
>How is the main setpiece of the area not working, a good thing?
It stops being a setpiece and atmospheric decoration when it's gone 5 seconds after walking into the area and what you're left with is just an empty barren room. Having this menacing skeleton dragon loom over you while you're exploring is way better for atmosphere and builds some tension till it finally attacks you. Giving the player "a bunch of steps" already gives the area way more depth and meaning that it ever had before where it was just a long hallway with no purpose. The key it leaves behind than rewards the player to circle around the cyclops and prevent getting insta killed and makes the boss run easier. Rewarding exploration and puzzle solving in an area that before was nothing but just killing enemies in a long hallway.
Anonymous No.723887490 [Report]
There are things i like about scholar more than base game but also things i don't

Putting the dlc keys in silly places is one of them
Anonymous No.723887597 [Report]
>>723874649
Me too bro, I'm sad I lost my save on an old SSD, don't think I can recover it now
Anonymous No.723888142 [Report]
anyone have that ds2 webm where the guy L1s his smelter hammer but the animation fucks up and he glides all the way down a staircase until the attack finally hits someone? havent thought about it in a while and realized i dont have it anymoar.
Anonymous No.723888308 [Report]
>>723875475
this but unironically, vanilla+dlc was good as is
there was 0 reason to ever make sotfs beyond just a quick cashgrab
Anonymous No.723888428 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
worst Souls by a country mile
vanilla + crown DLCs or bust, trannoids
Anonymous No.723888439 [Report] >>723888613
>>723875475
ds ptde did neither, and scholar did both
Anonymous No.723888613 [Report]
>>723888439
haha nice supernova my man
Anonymous No.723888680 [Report] >>723889071
Once again: complete, rancid dog shit. Why must this thread be made 5 times a day?
Anonymous No.723889056 [Report] >>723889212
>>723874215 (OP)
The whole game felt disconnected maybe because it wasn't spearheaded by the same guy who makes sure the game is coherent. The dev team on it didn't understand the philosophy of Dark Souls so they just made cat mario grimdark using a stupid lighting tech that was ahead of its time. It's not a horrible game, but not a good one either.
Anonymous No.723889071 [Report]
>>723888680
He REALLY needs someone else to share his deluded opinion.
Anonymous No.723889212 [Report]
>>723889056
>didn't understand the philosophy of Dark Soul
they understood it way more than mihacki and his retarded dodgespam bullshit
Anonymous No.723889270 [Report] >>723889576
>>723876085
Nope. The mandatory swamp level? You can run through the poison gas in 3 seconds. The mandatory lava level? No lava floor. The mandatory puzzle level? You can ignore it. Dark Souls 2 is literally the only Souls game with no "that part" in it.
Anonymous No.723889576 [Report] >>723889731
>>723883159
>>723889270
Jesus, you're a pretentious faggot aren't you? I mean, there have been some seriously pretentious, pseudointellectual midwits on this board, but you are just the king shit of the heap. "No, all those other games, they don't understand! Only the SEQUEL that was roundly disliked and a failure understands the truth of the series!"
Anonymous No.723889601 [Report] >>723889982
>>723887056
>You're not even trying to argue the flexile sentry in shaded woods makes sense
Gameplay wise, it makes sense to bring back an early boss as a miniboss and they give you a nice open space to fight it in. Better than the Flexile Sentry at the bottom of Sinner's Rise in Scholar that can't even fit through the elevator doorway and is easily cheesed
Lore wise? I'm sure you could argue either way

I guess we'll agree to disagree on Aldia's Keep. The skeleton coming alive and lunging at you is a cool surprise, and the fact that 99% of people playing Scholar normally will never see it, unless they're reading a guide in which case they already know it's coming, is kinda lame
Anonymous No.723889731 [Report]
>>723889576
>"No, all those other games, they don't understand! Only the SEQUEL that was roundly disliked and a failure understands the truth of the series!"
Yup, that's me.
Anonymous No.723889826 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
It's abysmal dogshit. That has been the verdict for 9 years. Only /v/ trannies are contrarian enough to enjoy this shit.
Anonymous No.723889982 [Report] >>723890650
>>723889601
Ok, so now the rule of gameplay takes over making sense when it's convenient? But fighting an early boss as a miniboss in Drangleic Castle doesn't count because it doesn't make sense when it suits you?
Anonymous No.723890650 [Report] >>723890816
>>723889982
Flexile Sentry had a duplicate fight from the beginning. The Executioner's Chariot horse was unique to that boss before Scholar. And it really does look out of place to find it in the middle of Drangleic Castle
Anonymous No.723890816 [Report]
>>723890650
>The Executioner's Chariot horse was unique
That's what it means to bring a boss back later as a miniboss. Which every souls game has done. And by your own admission makes gameplay sense.
> it really does look out of place to find it in the middle of Drangleic Castle
And flexile sentry in shaded woods doesn't? It makes more sense being in drangleic castle than that.
Anonymous No.723890978 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
I like it for being third person King's Field
Anonymous No.723891714 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
still sometimes thinking about that naked caestus parry master i encountered with my friend once.
Anonymous No.723892148 [Report]
>>723884021
>now
/v/ being retards that get their opinions off Matthewmatosis doesn't mean DS2 has magically changed while in your shelf for the last decade. It was fine back then and it's fine now. Hell I'd say it ages better the worse Soulsslop gets
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Anonymous No.723893617 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
ludo KINO
Anonymous No.723893849 [Report]
my favorite sekirolike
Anonymous No.723893898 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
kino
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Anonymous No.723894785 [Report] >>723895525
>>723874215 (OP)
Great game but the original version is better than the softs version.
Anonymous No.723895525 [Report] >>723896081
>>723894785
objectively wrong due to it being piss easy.
I know it's your first souls game, but it's bad and has abysmal loading times
Anonymous No.723896081 [Report]
>>723895525
It loaded fast enough for me on PC though.
Also pretty sure Bloodborne was my first followed by Dark Souls.
Anonymous No.723898034 [Report]
>>723883968
Its a shame games still do this just so that pc versions don't mog the console versions.
Anonymous No.723899710 [Report]
DS2 IS BEST SIR
Anonymous No.723899781 [Report] >>723899878
>>723874215 (OP)
It's a great video game, it's just the worst souls game.
Anonymous No.723899878 [Report]
>>723899781
Anonymous No.723900174 [Report] >>723900376
What was the most kino moment of the game?
I love the entry into Shulva, you descend down the toilet bowl of Majuula through degenerate pooville then through black gulch then suddenly there's even more down below including an entire mayan pyramid thing with a fucking dragon and some crazy bitch wailing
Anonymous No.723900314 [Report] >>723900469
If they just removed durability altogether it would be perfect.
Anonymous No.723900376 [Report]
>>723900174
Finally beating Sir Alonne for me.
Anonymous No.723900469 [Report]
>>723900314
Wrong.
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Anonymous No.723900772 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
Best Dark Souls game ever made and the real precursor of Elden Ring
True Saga Ranking
DS2>DS1>>ds3
Don't bother replying, ds3 recencyfags and ds1 nostalgiacunts ain't worth my salt
Anonymous No.723900921 [Report]
Brown 7th gen rollslop
Anonymous No.723902729 [Report]
Demon's Souls is still the best one
Anonymous No.723902838 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
Irish, pseud redditor made disingenuous arguments that could be applied to DS1/ Demon Souls and future Fromsoft titles, all the while being filtered by the double dragon-rider boss and other multi-enemy encounters.

Now we have streamlined rollslop and mass appeal, despite Fromsoft getting more time and budget.
Anonymous No.723902857 [Report]
>>723874215 (OP)
bad
Anonymous No.723903953 [Report]
By all objective metrics Bloodborne and DS3 are better but I enjoy DS2 much more and replay at least once a year, I don't get it