Thread 723879470

Somehow... Meteion returned

fuck off back to your containment board
>>>/vg/

>>723879470 (OP)
Unless she's going to kill all of Turalyol I don't give a shit

>>723879470 (OP)
sweet now we can fix the story by having her kill wuk lamat

>>723879645
she is a furry too so i don't think so

submitted 6 days ago by AssumeABrightSide


The difficulty tier as I understand it right now are normal raids/trials -> Extreme trials -> Savage raids -> Ultimate

Yet despite this, any content at Extreme difficulty or more, you would be expected to have watched an external guide if the content is not fresh for PUGs. This changes the playstyle from being adaptive, to be based on who has great memorization skills. A lot of this is based on group accountability. A mistake on your part at a certain mechanic, can lead to the death of 7 other players without compromise. There are certain instances where one or two players might survive, but being in such a crippled state, you're better off restarting.

To promote more strategies where you 'wing it' and find success, should Extreme trials remove instant raid wipe mechanics from a single person's failure? The mechanic's punishment would then be player-specific or maybe their partner also gets yeeted, but this leads to more situations that are recoverable. As a compromise, more chaotic mechanics that are less puzzle-based could be included. After all, there's a reason why Barbariccia is remembered so fondly as a fun Extreme.

this is how we XIV it

They getting a 1200 potency bump to Scorch to make up for that or what?

The community kinda ruins the game for me. I get you can play the game solo and all but just looking for discussion on the game or other stuff just leaves me cringing. Shit unironically feels like I'm into diaper fetish or something.

It's not a diss on XIV or anything it's just something I'm looking to overcome but fuck man, this community is so weird.

Guides exist to lay out a framework for people who are not good at making on the fly decisions a streamlined way to clear the content.

>>723882749
I wish XIV content was dynamically better. Having to rely on 7 other people sucks. You can't even get "so good" you can carry unless you're super late in the tier and the mechanics has no "you instantly die if someone messes up"

There is HoH and PoTD I guess but I wouldn't even say it's the right type of solo content given there's no tangible rewards and it's a mix of way too RNG and having to rely on cheese tactics which sucks.

Without a reasonable punishment for failure then people can basically zombie fights. If you remove raid wiping then there needs to a somewhat reasonable punishment on the player who dies to keep them engaged, something like the bozjan front system of rewarding perfect play with a chance at a special reward maybe.

i stopped raiding the moment after i was stuck on t7 with my static for a month then i pugged it with a random group and killed medusa on the first pull

fuck this autistic ass time wasting genre, this is why i only gpose my toon and roulette

imagine being having to put up with ff14 players fuck that never again

They decided that every PvE content requires preparation. You're asking for something entirely new by design and they always refused to entirely embrace a different philosophy. Of course, I do believe they should absolutely add another PvE type of content that wouldn't be about memorization, but replayability is so low on their priority list that you shouldn't expect much.

I mean I'd say they were in HW/SB day. Then they realized that might be a bad idea especially with stuff with old diadem.

Though, the modular difficulty is a great idea overall. I do hope that SE applies that too. Because I want to do dungeons in FF14 that just had a bit more bite to them. I want casual content that actually needs my tank to use mit on a tankbuster. Or dungeon achievements that WoW has historically done, where you had to beat bosses with specific conditions making them tougher.

>>723879470 (OP)
the one cool thing about dawntrail is that it proves meteion was right all along

>>723882481
>RDM
>Getting buffs
All you'll get are bosses that aren't tuned for RDM because you can't go to melee in burst phases.
Imagine playing anything other than melees in this game, lmao. It's like being a second tier citizen.

But reaper... oh my god its literally nothing but 123. No positionals. no oGCDs. no soul reaping mode with a quick oGCD filled roations. Just press 123 for the entirety of Labrynth.

>>723879470 (OP)
What do you mean somehow?
We see Meteion fly away at the end of EW

I've seen players around the forums and the main sub defending it, with the argument that a player would feel miserable seeing the same job doing too much with their kits.

Like... I don't understand the logic. In my mind, that's supposed to be actually "cool, look what I'll have when I level up!". Plus, leveling in XIV is as easy as playing the MSQ.

>>723883482
>t7
>toon
ok grandpa, go back to the wow thread. try to not report this thread on your way out, we all know how obsessed the janny is with killing all 14 threads

FFXIV fight design is just more engaging. I do battle content in FFXIV for the sake of doing it. I love the intricacy of solving mechanics in Ultimates, in WoW it's mostly very braindead 'dont stand in bad' even in the higher difficulty raids and Mythic+. In fact PFing Savage on release in FFXIV can take me some time between coordinating to get the right group and weeks, even months to clear the tier depending on how much time I sink into it. New Heroic raids in WoW on release I can clear in 3 hours if I luck out with a group but usually it's easy enough to clear week one if you don't get a full party of braindead people.

I mean the only thing I don't like about job design and leveling up is a lot of 50-60-70-80-90-100 don't build on each other nice at all. So you'll have something jank for 50-70, be okay for 80ish - suddenly have something kinda jank for 90 until 100 cleans it out. It just feels pretty ass to play this way.

One last tidbit from the super nerd in me: the RP community in WoW is so vast with such a crazy deep amount of lore to pull from to make legit any kind of character concept you can dream up, and jumping into doing it with the community is so easy on servers that are always accessible. I find breaking into the RP community a lot harder in FFXIV, and especially hard since a lot of us have to come up with WoL and non-WoL canons for interacting with our friends vs interacting with the wider populace, so it's a little bit more effort on the writing side on how you want to approach it. I'm not always in the mood to write because I'm not much of a creative person so I have to be in a specific mood but FFXIV feels like it requires more effort to hit that side of the community.

you lost me with RP conversation

I’m still “new” to FFXIV - I played when the EW expansion was wrapping up. But I heard that classes did have more unique identities to them just they made it more simple. Which is nice for the same reason you said of “I can come back and easily pick it up” but yeah it would be nice if playing different classes felt more different. As I thought Dark Knight in ffxiv had more Hp costs to their skills from what I’ve seen people say online. But currently leveling alt jobs and ya it just feels very the same all across the board rn, hopefully feels better at higher levels

Wym you heard classes had more unique identities? ShB and HW homogonized a shit ton of stuff. I didn't come back for DT.

FFXIV is not flexible like that. I enjoyed the game a lot more in StB and before. I obviously enjoyed the game after that point, but it felt like the wrong direction over and over. So it is enjoy what they do to the game as years go by and like it.

8.0
JOB CHANGES
BELIEVE IT

You assume the people who care about Q40 remotely care about Deep Dungeon. Problem is theres are 2 vastly different pieces of content and most people interested in the main endgame fight probably dont care about running the deep dungeon. Also the people who do Q40 are running with their friends anyways so they wouldnt even bother queuing into the Deep Dungeon to begin with.

Why are there so many posts replying to each other without actually replying?

>>723887609


The reward structure of the game is so fundamentally broken for an MMO. Character progression fundamentally doesnt exist and the only thing on offer is useless glamour and a never ending hampster wheel of gear invalidation that people have gaslit themselves into believing is a good system.

the sacrifice is ready

so why did you change to a male vtuber model?

right on cue there he is
our favorite parasocial

>>723894958
/vg/ and its consequences

>>723883482
As others have said, even though FFXIV has a better story, the questing and leveling experience is really bad. Personally, I typically only tolerate visual novels-esque games if they are not combat games, like Life is Strange. FFXIV questing and leveling really get on my nerve sometimes. Wow also really shines in terms of glamour/transmog experience. I feel like I am being punished for getting gears in FFXIV because I somehow have to find places to put them. But I can’t because there are a bunch of fishing and crafting mats, plus questing mats, furnitures and stuff. So I just throw them away. Then next round of content comes and I am like, why do I even bother getting those items that

I thought it's funny so I joined in. Ngl the community gives me a big ick vibe so I'm not really willing to go back to resub.

>>723896206
>the community gives me a big ick vibe

lmao

more powerful than an AI youtuber, folderkun and barry combined

>>723896363
>nu-xiv dicksucker is from /wowg/
Literally every single time.

>>723894958
Presuming it is a schizo copypasting an entire thread from the official forums.

>>723897117
Wouldn't surprise me
I had someone copy one of my posts from a previous thread before

there he goes vague/hornyposting unprompted
what predictable thing will he do next
it's gonna be a deep dungeon post!

>>723879470 (OP)
i wish that was true, there is no reason for her to just dont be around anymore, i keep the fucking blue bird pet around and pretend its her
if wuk dies and meteion comes back i would think about resubbing

Chat,
Are we cooked?

>>723899892
@Grok are we cooked?

I can easily get myself caught up within a day or two, even have a fresh character caught up within a week. There's so much content I can do with relatively little time commitment that still feels reasonably rewarding. I don't feel like I'm falling behind if I don't play every day/week and there are reasonable goals I can accomplish that still feel rewarding without having to commit to the most difficult content. All of this makes it really easy to get friends involved, too.

Pilgrim's Traverse is good content.
Way better than OC.
Did a 1-100 clear yesterday for the weekly with some FC mates and had a good time.

Missing out on the expansion is weird to be sure. But if that retcon is real then i wouldn't be missing out on any lore.

>>723902391
fairy sex

People who want a weapon drop from Q40 don't want the PT weap, they want a unique Q40 weap (like an aetherpool grip upgrade that makes the weapon glow, not the grip itself). If the reward was something you could easily get from typical PT play like aetherpool grips, I don't think that'd actually alleviate any of the complaints. Quantum is already efficient when it comes to farming PT stuff more quickly than in PT, the people complaining want something that you need to do Quantum to get.

Just discovered last night that crafted hydaelyn weapons drop from the sacks. What a fucking disgrace of a reward, completely destroys the market for people who craft and sell those.. What has a hyda weapon got to do with the deep dungeon?

>>723903661
First time doing a deep dungeon?
This has been a thing since Palace of the Dead.
They all drop extreme glowie weapons.

My Dalamud was working with XIV launcher, but all of a sudden now Dalamud isn't showing up. I'm using on steam deck and it worked when I was at the homepage.

>>723894958
It's a bot that's taking posts from forums

>>723903661
They do this with every big content. Old rewards go in new content to pad out.

>>723904212
for what reason?

>>723879470 (OP)
Where did it go?

>>723904301
XIV has had some real schizos since SHB/EW.

>>723904301
mental illness as usual

That being said, I do enjoy FFXIV more. It’s subjective and all that, but I like the mechanical bite more, I like the way that jobs play with its own buttons more, I enjoy how the world looks more…It doesn’t have game first, though. It’s designed for the story and by god, it doesn’t care what you think of it, and I…respect that? Them being so stubborn about things is a plus in its own right (same for Blizzard; this isn’t meant to be a WOW BAD FFXIV GOOD post, especially since I’m playing Remix right now). I also much prefer SE’s style of announcements: Here’s the thing, here’s the date, peace.

>>723904301
Makkiatto not being permabanned by jannies instantly for being a schizo allowed him to get attached to this website instead of Reddit or the official forums where he belongs.

>>723904916
I was horribly bored with Endwalker's Dungeons and EX Trials. DT design was a breath of fresh air - especially doing it at the start where you didn't totally out ilevel the 2 Extremes and Optional Dungeons.