Thread 723885104

Why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?

>>723885104 (OP)
It filters non-whites

>>723885104 (OP)
because it's for gay nerds

>>723885104 (OP)
i'm not a nigger like linus

It's not good, it's a huge pain in the ass that's evangelized by the most insufferable autists you've ever met. Also there aren't any Linux exclusives that anyone cares about.

>>723885104 (OP)
This morning I had to look up how to solve an issue (stuck on boot) even though it was perfectly fine the day before. It was easy to solve but still.
Isn't the first time that a Linux installation would just stop working.
Still better than W11

>>723885104 (OP)
Nothing works

i used linux as a boot manager instead of whatever hte fuck windows comes with because it keeps shitting the bed randomly
one day i will go full loonix, but i'll wait until i upgrade all my specs for it

>>723885207
fpbp, like Terry Davis famously said, the command line is for white people and GUIs are for niggers.

>>723885917
Your drive might be dying or you have the most fucked up buggy UEFI ever.

>>723885543
Only time I had a boot issue was self inflicted but it happened a long time ago for no reason I could see. Feels like issues in Windows are almost constant and most ultimately harmless (like background randomly going away). With Linux it shits the bed hard or there's minor graphical glitches from time to time.

One issue I had recently was a wine prefix getting raped so bad I had consecutive North Bridge errors within 20 minutes of launching a game. This might have to do with reusing one prefix as the exe for another in a launcher but still spoopy. Thought my rig was dying and I'd need a new mobo. Totally gone now and even stress testing didn't make it happen again.

>>723885104 (OP)
You can game on Linux now if you want to

>>723885104 (OP)
>General stupidity.
>Assuming it's still difficult to use.
>Needs to play multiplayer kernel anticheat slop.
>Leaving their microcuck bubble is new and scary.

probably because windows is easier to use and comes with most machines, also linux has a stigma of being hard but most distros now come with desktop enviroments that make them quite easy to use and there's programs that allow you to do things that were console only before, also if you use steam linux lets you play any game as if it was windows native

>>723885104 (OP)
my forehead is even bigger than his. is it over for me ?

I like to play games

>>723885207
I don't know man. I'm brown esl (not pajeet) and I love gnu+linux, currently using it as my daily driver, not having to deal with m$ bullshit is great. I believe the problem with linux adoption by the general public is a matter of normalfaggotry.

>>723885104 (OP)
>paints his nails black and has long hair
FAG

>>723886906
What kind of games?

>>723885104 (OP)
because windows came on my computer and I dont want to install a virus

>>723886780
Qa'plah, anon.

>>723887394
what

>>723887189
brownest post ITT award

>>723885104 (OP)
I cannot wait for the day when telling people to use Linux backfires and all the normies swarm in and everything goes to shit

>>723885207
No it doesn't lol

>>723885104 (OP)
Microsoft Office.

>>723885104 (OP)
macOS is the future of gaming

>>723885104 (OP)
Because when you buy [machine] it comes with windows on it. Why don't more people select and use doors for their house they like more? Because they don't understand a reason to change it, the effort to go throgh changing it is big, and they don't want to spend the time on a change they consider frivolous when there are other things they understand demands more time and effort. Some people don't care that they're being advertised to in their own homes, some people don't care about telemetry, some people assume it's normal. All of this gives the corporations power over us and the normalization just makes that process all the easier for them.

What about that Bazzite thing? Does it just work?

>>723885312
>It's not good
Huh? Machines snd programs run cleaner on linux

>>723887949
Bazz is def the best character from concord

Luigi, stop being so fucking racist!

>>723885104 (OP)
Most people are retarded. Zoom zooms can barely manage with file folders and the Windows UI.

because no one wants to fucking waste 5 hours messing with their terminal to get shit to work.
no, your epic transparent terminal with the trans flag colored arch logo does not make you cool.

>>723888639
Most people are retarded about growing their own food. That doesn't mean it's worth the effort.

>>723885104 (OP)
I am considering moving to Linux, though. My machine started crashing and loaded extremely slowly when Microsoft terminated life support on Windows 10. After work, all I have to do is grab a USB drive and backup my files before switching.

>>723885207
I'm white and it filtered me too, if you didn't grow up with a tech dad that had a computer and let you tinker with it growing up I think there is very little chance you would be able to get into non windows/apple stuff.

>>723885104 (OP)
I do DOE?

>>723885104 (OP)
Normalfags do three things:
>Use default shit
>Use popular shit
>Panic like headless chickens and branch out until reassured with the most surface level platitude of all time like: "Apple is secure", "Google Pixel respects your privacy" or "Recycling works"
None of these are compatible with switching to Linux and sticking with it.
>>723887949
No, it's a meme.

Because Windows 11 lets me do everything I need to do with one click. There's no setup nonsense or fishing around for various packages to get a game to sorta work.

It literally just works.

>>723890178
like setup a local account?
like access right click menu?

>>723885207
It filters non-tranoids mostly

>>723885104 (OP)
There's a higher chance of something being broken on new releases
Unless you dual boot, you pretty much have to get used to not playing a game first-day

>>723885104 (OP)
Because Loonix is just for tinkertrooning. If you want to actually use your PC, you stick with windows.

>>723885104 (OP)
Tek Syndicate guy is still around? Is he still dating a tranny?

>>723887489
Google Klingons, the 6-heads from star trek.

Barrier to entry is always a good thing.

>>723885207
/thread

The retarded masses who don't use Linux are allowed to vote. Democracy is a mistake.

>>723885207
uh...

>>723894003
1. Why does it matter if Indians use Linux?
2. This is not a true map

Why do you keep making this thread? People don't use Linux because it didn't come with their computers and they have no reason to go out of their way to switch to something that isn't listed as a supported operating system for the software they already know how to use.
There's nothing more to discuss, which is why these threads just fill with bait posts and butthurt from people who fall for bait posts.
I use Mint btw.

>>723885104 (OP)
>why don't people use skateboards for skiing?

>>723885104 (OP)
I do

>>723895482
>answer: because they're cowards
Good analogy

>>723885104 (OP)
>Why don't more people use linux?
>man in thumbnail looks like he's 5 months on HRT
gee wiz, I wonder.

>>723889465
>if you didn't grow up with a tech dad that had a computer and let you tinker with it growing up

I'm from rural america with shitty dial-up tier internet and two parents who knew nothing about computers and I still became a self-taught programmer who can handle this stuff fine. The problem is that Linux is annoying to use if your goal is to actually get shit done. It's for people who want to tinker with and spend all their time customizing their computer instead of doing anything actually productive unless they're intending to use it as a server or something.

>>723895703
What is this "spend time tinkering" meme that keeps being mouthed off over and over while being clearly wrong?
I don't ever "tinker" with either Linux or Windows PCs after I'm done setting them up, unless there's something concrete I need to change from the previous configuration.

Also what is this "anything actually productive" that you people are constantly doing with your computers? This is /v/, playing video games isn't productive.

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/no-signal-with-vrr-when-framerate-is-low/334140

Stuff like this keeps me away. DSC on nvidia working so erratically. It's not even like you can do much about this sort of shit: If you edit an EDID and do the annoying bullshit required to use it, it doesn't matter if you set a different VRR range, anything that your monitor wouldn't support without DSC causes problems like these.
VRR is not a last year technology. We're not talking even about gaytracing or HDR here. Gsync monitors were already being sold in the mid 2010s. But somehow nvidia still shits the bed with these. I have my fancy cool monitor and if I want to switch to linux I have to cuck it up.

>>723896172
People who have literally not once ever touched either the mouse or keyboard of a computer running the Linux kernel on bare metal nonetheless believe themselves to be experts in Linux.
They imagine that I use Linux for my professional software development work because my employer wants me to customize my desktop and tinker with the OS all day instead of writing code.

>>723885104 (OP)
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/Why%20don%27t%20gamers%20use%20Linux%20for%20gaming/type/op/
>13 results found

Please stop. Get off 4chan immediately, then get some professional help.

>>723885104 (OP)
because if you ask linux fags what to use you get 1000 answers. if these autists can actually agree on 1 or 2 distros it could actually get some marketshare with normies

>>723898075
>1000 answers
I understand this is a reference to the bajillion meme distros but there literally are only a few distro familiies
>Slackware + derivatives = not relevant
>Gentoo + derivatives = not relevant
>Debian + derivatives (incl. Ubuntu + Mint/LMDE) = some people recommend but anyone who knows anything also considers it irrelevant
Discounting Ubuntu for turning to shit and being bloated, discounting Debian because release is running old drivers and testing is a meme that is mostly stable but liable to leaving your system broken for months due to updates taking about as long.

Pretty much just leaves whatever game-tailored derivative of Arch that's the most popular (CatchyOS?) and will give you the easiest time looking for answers when something inevitably breaks. That's option 1 for playing modern games. Option 2 is to find a release of Debian/Mint and play mostly classics and almost no newer games.

inb4
>Ubuntu is not a meme, it's a serious OS
It will literally sap performance to serve you ads and be a shitty easily broken distro. Don't care, it's Windows but even worse.
>Debian is totally useable for gaming and stable!
It's a serviceable distro but using it for gaming is not going to be fun when the old drivers start causing problems in some new game and you have to switch to testing and then cut yourself untested and broken updates.
>Mint is simple and good
It's basically an easier Debian without as much bloat as Ubuntu, but LMDE is based off Debian testing IIRC and it's still going to problem. Neat distro for an office machine.
>EL (Red Hat, Fedora, OEL whatever)
Worse than Debian. Alright for servers.
>Gentoo will gib performance
Nigger don't make me smile
>But Arch/meme derivative will break often
Yeah and short update cycle will almost always also fix it often.
>Nix
No, never. It is a nice idea but fuck Nixlang, jesus.

>>723899353
wow nigga you expect me to read all of that?

>>723899626
Kek, I was gonna put in a TL;DR but forgot

TL;DR:
>Pretty much just leaves whatever game-tailored derivative of Arch that's the most popular (CatchyOS?) and will give you the easiest time looking for answers when something inevitably breaks. That's option 1 for playing modern games. Option 2 is to find a release of Debian/Mint and play mostly classics and almost no newer games.

>>723899353
see what I mean? you expect normies to read all the documentation and shit when they can just go ahead and pop in win11?

>>723885104 (OP)
My issue is I would use it as a daily driver if they were able to have similar VR support with windows/quest 3. I need my flight sim autism.

>>723899882
Win11 is harder to install than most Linux distros. You have to go to Gentoo or a manual Arch install to get higher difficulty setting than Win11.

>>723885104 (OP)
too much work just to play vidya.

>>723900167
delusional.

>>723900367
It literally takes less than 10 minutes to install something like CachyOS. That includes the time it takes to copy files.
Windows 11 requires you to look up ways to bypass Microsoft accounts and it takes FOREVER to install.

>>723900257
Installing steam and enabling the compatibility setting is too much work?

>>723885104 (OP)
People who are happy with Windows have no need or want to use Linux. They're perfectly content with being spied on and having their resources gobbled up by corpo keyloggers and AI.

>>723888217
Steve Jobs is a retard that refused actual treatment for his cancer in favor of acupuncture and dietary supplements.

Reminder that if Linux gaming was anywhere near as unpopular as they'd prefer, microsoft wouldn't be footing the bill to have some version of this shit ass thread on 4chan 24/7.

>>723885104 (OP)
But I do. I use Mint btw.

>723900737
>look ma', I posted it again!

>>723900834
>creates iPhone
>gives 4chan and internet at wide an incurable cancer
>gives himself cancer
>refuses to elaborate
>dies
P O W E R F U L

>>723899882
Things break on Windows too. I imagine installing CatchyOS is actually easier than Arch and about on par with W11. I was referring to fixing things after it's installed and something weird happens or a game doesn't run.

>>723900737
>stab me in the face
>I'm not doing that unless you say "Yes, Do As I Say"
>Yes Do As I Say
>*stabs you*
>HAHA WAOW!

>>723901123
Why is installing Steam equivalent to being stabbed in the face?

>>723901229
Because you installed Linux: Corpo Edition for baby retards

>daily ganoo loonix desktop shitpost thread #94
Nope, still sticking with windows.

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/1723609139109285.jpg/

Why isn't OP being banned for spamming like the mentally ill faggot he is?

>>723901379
how many rupees per post sir?

>>723885207
>>723885271
>>723885312
>>723885562
What the fuck are you talking about?
I installed nobara and literally everything has been plug and play so far. I never needed to use the commandline once, I never needed to change drivers once. The only thing I do is select a proton version through steam and that's it.

You fags are such drama queens if this is too much for you.

>>723901463
I'll have you know microsoft pays good money to have this shitty thread up.

You gotta think like an admin and not a user to get the most out of linux. Even if it never becomes popular it's got a good niche going for power users.

>>723901357
how are people supposed to know what version is best? because i have never seen any of you linux autists agree on what distro is best for literally anything.

>>723901829
I don't want to be a power user or admin, I just want to play videogames without my OS being a flaming bag of shit.

>>723901597
None of the people who parrot the "it's too much work" meme have actually used it themselves

>>723901597
Sure Jan

>>723901583
>>723894003
You tell me saar.
>>723901829
It's got a niche as a server. Trannies and literal autists do not and will never understand user experience.

>>723901905
Arch for chads
Endeavor for chads who are afraid
Mint for complete babies
Those are your options.
>but bazzite but manjaro but redhat
Asking for trouble

because it doesn't come preinstalled
if you told people that they pay $100 for windows and gave them an option to buy os-less laptops or ones with some easy linux distro no one would buy the windows ones

>>723901909
So install Nobara or Bazzite and click play on your games??

>>723901909
Then just use windows. The new shit like Battlefield 6 requires secure boot and TPM enabled anyway. I run multiple servers and do a decent more than just gaming so that's why I use linux.

>>723902102
>install
You lose me.

>>723902076
Actually fucking filtered by Bazzite KEK
Go back to Winslop retard the adults are talking

>>723901915
>>723901597
Oh your specific games and applications worked? I guess that means the people saying theirs don't work are just lying.

>>723901829
>You gotta think like an admin and not a user to get the most out of linux
What does that even mean?
Most people here just wanna play vidya and browse the web with their computers, Linux can do both.
>>723901905
>hurr why can no one on 4chan give me an educated, non-meme, non-contrarian, non-/pol/cancer-riddled answer to this question??!

Gee, buddy, it's mystery.
Literally go and ask reddit when it comes to tech.

If you want an honest reply: Mint is good for beginners and if you're just a gamer and want an OS that feels like windows but isn't pozzed just go with Mint or Nobara.

i might just go back to mint arch breaks alot and bazzite is too locked down

>>723902049
>Trannies and literal autists do not and will never understand user experience.
Good. Keep the normies the fuck out.

>>723902204
Retard

>>723902191
What game on which distro didn't work for you?

>>723902172
Bazzite is just marginally less shitty Popos and puts way too much faith in fickle maintainers

>>723902191
If it doesn't run on Linux you shouldn't be using it :)

>>723885207
the average linux user is indian
not a meme, literally. look it up

>>723901909
Just google "best linux distro" for gaming and pick one of the options from the AI description that suits what you're looking for. If that's too hard just don't use it. It's that simple.

>>723902191
the ones don't work are blatant security violations and the developers and publishers are throwing a hissy fit about the spyware
the invisible hand of the market will force them to enable linux compatibility because it was never about the anticheats to begin with

>>723902076
Logo silhouette looks like a fat bald man, which is what half of you Arch users look like. The other half are obviously troons btw.

Sometimes I wonder if it's worth the effort.
And there is effort to be done. If I want my gamepad to work right, I can't just plug and play like Windows. If I want my nvidia GPU to work right, I gotta cuck myself. I spent 3 days between last week and this week fucking around with EDID just to get around display issues on linux. I have to do nothing about this on Windows. Do I get access to any of my editing tools? No. I have to use stuff like Darktable. Can I undervolt my nvidia GPU? Kinda but not really, I don't have a curve editor at all over there. It's all not so simple. It's good for people who have a low to mid end build. People who find it impressive that monitors have higher refresh rates than 120hz, in 2025. If you have some old shit like an RX580 and an early Ryzen build and a 144hz iiyama monitor or whatever, there you go, linux might be better.

Inconvenience

>>723902587
Why the fuck are you using Nvslop and gamepads
Stay on Windows, you deserve to be shit on

>>723890420
All the symbols on the right look demonic

>>723900550
it is if one of your games randomly stops working

>>723902587
Have you ever considered that you're just a fucking retard kek

>>723902191
They're not lying no, they're just retarded cattle who only play AAA slop with invasive malware "anti-cheat" that devs purposefully prevent from running on linux

>>723902194
>want an OS that feels like windows but isn't pozzed just go with Mint or Nobara.
but those are trash OS's for plebs, Kubuntu or Nobara are better.

The truth of the matter is that people dont want to do shit when it comes to things they use for entertainment, most pople play video games and browse the internet, if switching to W11 lets them keep doing that then they will let Microsoft rape their baby to keep having a consistant experience. Linux takes more effort and thus break up the routine too much.

>>723902191
>wanting to play literally any live service or multiplayer game hassle-free means you're just a AAA goyslop pleb.

>>723902523
There was a picture with a dragon on it that explained distros pretty okay but I don't have it.
It was like MSPaint

kek all the anti-linux posting being from Battletroons makes sense now
actual zoomers who are scawed of a wittle command line

>>723901379
heh

>>723902587
>can't just plug and play like Windows
Works on my machine
>If I want my nvidia GPU to work right, I gotta cuck myself
You already did that when you chose to fund Jensen's jacket collection

>>723902953
Unironically, yes.

I do main Linux though. Most stuff works out of the box, and what doesn't just takes a while to configure to get working. And by a while, I mean it takes five minutes to figure out which proton to use, and then it works. This thread is weird, and there's a lot of Microsoft shills/bots...

>>723885104 (OP)
i installed fedora workstation the other day and the experience has been good nvidia+wayland has not been giving me any issues and the games i like just worked or the issues were simple to fix

>>723902258
maybe nobara idk

>>723903243
>56% of slop doesn't work
GOOD

>>723885104 (OP)
I play on my Steam Deck everyday though?

If you're considering it, just try it. You won't get honest answers here, positive it negative. People namedrop bazzite, because it comes with everything preloaded, it's not a bad choice for checking things out.

>>723885104 (OP)
Needlessly complicated for what little benefits it provides.

>>723903428
I use fedora on my work laptop but I don't think I would ever use it for gayming

>>723885543
Really? Cause I've never run into this problem. You sure you're just coping?

>>723903524
/thread

>>723885104 (OP)
Do erotic games work yet, yankee?

>>723903524
>proton/Lutris
>Set few options
>Run the game

How this is hard?

>>723886906
A game of what though?

>>723885104 (OP)
Yeah I'm kind of confused why more people who breathe oxygen don't breathe oxygen more also

This is what you sound like

>>723903724
It does. Albeit sometimes you need fudge wine options due font rendering.

>>723885104 (OP)
windows comes preinstalled.
arch btw.

>>723903243
What is denied?

>>723902308
I haven't used it in a few months but after being on it for half a year I gave up and went back. I only use it for servers now, where it belongs. Here's a few notable cases though:
>Hell Divers 2
Doesn't run on multiple distros and will randomly crash causing the need for a hard reboot. Doesn't happen in windows.
>Anything Adobe
Getting them to run is just lol. No I'm not going to run GIMP and be like that greentext meme of the guy in class running linux and getting beat up in the parking lot.
>Tribes
Massive input delay that didn't happen on windows and didn't happen to any other games.
>Logitech onboard memory
Literally does not work so I need to plug my mouse into my laptop, change the DPI, then plug it back into my desktop. You can say this is logitech's fault but it doesn't matter to me. It doesn't work and adds needless hassle.
Besides the games, for the OS you need to spend a good 10-15 minutes on <small daily new bullshit issue> that just works instantly on windows or mac.
>>723902849
>>723902563
I wasn't thinking of "AAA slop" with anticheat, I've had plenty of games not work or have major issues. Even if I WAS talking about that, just saying "welp you shouldn't be playing those anyway!" doesn't help your argument and makes people think your OS is for autistic nerds with a chip on their shoulder (because it is). Most people use a computer to run applications, they don't give a fuck about the OS. Linux users are the weird opposite of this.
>>723902217
>>723902437
This is actually the real mindset which is hilarious. hurf durf why aren't people using linux?! Year of the linux desktop!

>>723904119
Games where the developers have explicitly stated that they will not enable the anti-cheat solution to work on Linux or have denied the possibility of Linux support

>>723904152
Great... That sucks

>>723904139
All slop, kys

>>723904152
it's a numbers game, it really doesn't matter what the devs say. if linux gets the players, the devs will follow the money.

>>723903724
All of the ones I've tried worked, but there are some with issues. For example I can't run Kamidori Alchemy Meister properly unless I use gamescope. Which isn't really so much an issue as it's a deviation from normal.

>>723903724
Wait shit, is it time to raid 2chan for memes again while shidding and fardding and pizzing their board up?

>>723904228
Make me, you can't fat nerd.

>>723904139
>Adobe anything

Opinion discarded.

>>723904391
Are the Adobe fags furry/tranny commission artists?

>>723885104 (OP)
When I ask people why I should use Linux, they can't say anything other than "it's just better." That's not a compelling argument. Everyone uses Windows, everyone makes software for Windows, I understand Windows, I need some really good reasons to switch. I also don't live by myself, my PC is my family's PC, I can't just change the OS and pray they don't notice, and any time something doesn't work I have to spend the rest of the night troubleshooting it. People say you need to be a programmer to use Linux and a lifetime of video games, roleplaying in chat rooms, reading blogs and pirating music hasn't actually taught me how these magic boxes work.

>>723902858
that's the problem with trannyx users like you, whenever there's an unsolvable problem you tell others to change distros. Not everyone has enough time to change distros like you change genders, some people have better shit to do

>>723885104 (OP)
You only have a narrow avenue by which to enjoy gaming on them without having to have more in depth linux knowledge.
>IT'S PLUG AND PLAAAAAAY
until I download something off of itch.io and linux and the dev both tell me to kick rocks and figure it out myself.
You wanna try to run a porn game on linux bud? yeah I can't wait to start scrolling through command line instruction books while trying to keep a hard on going. Thrilling stuff. I get the appeal of Linux, I fucking despise windows and everything it represents but I like playing a lot of games in a wide net of availability and support. They all work on windows and only some of them work on linux and even if they didn't work on windows I'd know how to fix it, while on linux I don't and there's no good argument for dealing with linux outside of no longer having to deal with windows, which is a compelling argument but with windows I just have to deal with windows the other apps don't bother me, with linux I have to deal with an expanding list of headaches from either end.

>>723885104 (OP)
I'm installing Mint on my rig this WE

>>723904645
>You wanna try to run a porn game on linux bud?
Which exact porn game is that difficult to run?

>>723904337
Doesn't 2ch block gaijin IPs nowadays?

>>723885104 (OP)
An unsolvable problem. You need to be autistic to use linux, which unfortunately prevents you from empathizing with the needs of people who aren't newtypes.

>>723904673
>mint
that's an antique.
for modern desktops you want something capable of running gnome and kde like bazzite, fedora, arch or even ubuntu.

>>723904484
Different anon, but It's almost safe to assume any halfway serious artist that's making money is using adobe in some shape or form. It's unfortunately the king for creative work that isn't 3D.

>>723904945
Maybe from posting?

>>723905249
depends what kind of "artist" you are really. blender for example is the industry standard for anything 3d, and that actually runs better on linux.

>>723905249
Adobe suck dick unless you really need specific tool or is a legit pro. Even then CSP more or less replaced it for most artists.

>>723904152
>loonix users think they are entitled to it and devs owe supporting their games
lole

>>723885104 (OP)
stop posting your stupid fucking red words bait youtube channel you brownskin undesirable

>>723904249
>if linux gets the players
kek

>>723905525
support and outright fucking denial are two different things

>>723905249
See this
>>723905434
Is why I'm assuming it's not "serious artists" but degenerate porn makes. The frequency of "adobe doesn't work on Linux" is too high for every single one to be professional artists. Even for most of them.

>>723905434
i use adobe because photoshop is great and gimp doesnt come close
gimp doesnt even have content aware fill lmao. it only has that shitty resynthesizer plugin that forces you to use the flatpak and barely works, let alone works as good as photoshop's. i need that feature for the manga translation work i do. therefore fuck gimp and linux

>>723905634
linux has been growing steadily for a while and has more players than mac these days.

>>723905525
They don't need to support it, they just need to not go out of their way to block it

>>723906002
they do need to support it because their shitty anti cheat isn't going to start magically working on linux.
i'm sure they'll come around when linux gets big enough, no matter how much they complain about not being allowed to use kernel level anti cheat.

>>723890178
windows 11 lets you do everything if you give them your account data, your telemetry, your current activity, your files and folders and it knows what you fapped to last time. And it also undos all your attempts to debloat it the next time it updates. I am planning to move to linux with my htpc first and then after a year or so i will also migrate my gaming rig. Windows can spy on someone else then.

>>723906251
The anti cheat is just data collection lol. It doesn't need to "work" because the purpose isn't to stop cheaters to begin with

>>723904560
The reason is that microsoft is spying on you
>inb4 but i don't care
but you have to care, please be outraged

>>723906251
i wouldn't count a tickbox as support
valve has done all the heavy lifting already, all they have to do is not be spiteful spyware loving bitches
no one is expecting native linux games from them in 2025

>>723905942
Bazzite is the distro all these newfags should be dumped into

>>723906002
The problem with kernel anti-cheat on Linux is that if you let it run it won't be running kernel mode. The Windows kernel you have in Wine isn't actually the Linux kernel at all. You're running userspace with low privileges lol
Basically, any kernel level anti-cheat is completely ineffective on Linux against any Linux based cheat (if such a thing exists). It's like having DMA hardware without actually needing DMA hardware.

So people who are extremely serious about addressing cheaters via kernel level anti-cheat will NEVER allow Linux.

>>723906624
>So people who are extremely serious about addressing cheaters via kernel level anti-cheat will NEVER allow Linux.
this is true, however i wonder just how many chinks and spergs are really willing to install Linux as an OS just to cheat in competitive videogames....

>>723906328
I advise all those who care about their privacy to move to Linux, for the normalfags who'll agree to sell their anus to Microsoft I couldn't give less fucks about and that's why I hate when Linux gets shilled, let the retards stay retards

>>723885104 (OP)
i recently installed pop os. i'm slowly learning how to troubleshoot things. I liked the interface a lot but sometimes it's buggy as hell. There's a lot of stuttering in some games. Definitely not smooth like windows

>>723906868
Cheaters pay hundreds of dollars for accounts and hardware to cheat, I'm sure installing Linux is a small sacrifice to make.

>>723906624
>So people who are extremely serious about addressing cheaters via kernel level anti-cheat will NEVER allow Linux.
server side anti cheat will always work.

>>723905824
>Gimp

Use krita retard.

>>723906998
Why would they want to pay to run anti-cheat software on server when they can just run it on your PC? Many modern games don't even use servers beyond matchmaking, it's all peer to peer.

>>723906948
>popos
either you got gnome 42 which is over 3 years old or cosmic beta which is half cooked.
be careful who you take recommendations from.

>>723888217
Who's Steve Jobs?

Once installing Linux is as easy as hacking a 3DS i'll do it.

>>723885104 (OP)
I am tech retarded. I get by on using google when I have issues but once I find something which works I stick with it. For example, I still can't remember what microsoft changed the name of My Computer to, never know where to find it and I'm still mad they changed it. Steam works for me so Linux is a bridge too far.

>>723907187
but it is
>download cachyos
>download rufus
>install it onto a flash drive
>go to motherboard bios and boot from that flash drive
>follow the on screen instructions

Why do retards on this site say "Linux is hard to use if you're not a programmer"? I'm by all means a retard when it comes to programming that isn't some basic "else if" program and I didn't find it difficult to use at all. Do people think using the console and typing pre-written commands is hard?

>>723885104 (OP)
People like when their tools just work without the need to engage in fuckery to accomplish basic tasks. Asking a regular person to edit config files and the like is why normal people will never use Linux. It’s not a user friendly operating system, even desktop focused distros are always just inferior/undercooked takes on existing UIs. I haven’t had a windows update break my windows install since windows vista, whereas basic updates break Linux distros all the time. Linux would get a user base if they made it usable for normal people who don’t enjoy fiddling around with retarded half broken open source garbage. Windows >>>> MacOS >> BSD >>>> Linux. At least BSD based systems are actually usable as operating systems out of the box, not just a bunch of cobbled together shit like Linux distros

>>723894003
americans are so fucking brown lmao

>>723907240
the hardest part about linux is installing it, which you can do by following one of thousands of guides on the web.
>>723907461
people are afraid of bricking their pc and doing stuff they've never done before. btw there's nothing about installing linux that can make your pc unrecoverable. worse case scenario you can easily reinstall windows.

>>723885104 (OP)
>Can I use program X?
>No. Why would you want to use program X? Program X is slop. Program X has no use case.
Instead of making their OS functional, they insist on the idea that you shouldn't use what you want to use.

>>723907551
>People like when their tools just work without the need to engage in fuckery to accomplish basic tasks.


Such as? Software manage gives you ton of software with a few clicks, and lot of stuff can be tweaked via GUI.

>>723907728
The biggest problem with Linux that I have is that I need to manually convert videos to .mov and audio to .wav for DaVinci Resolve. But I barely use it because it's so shit compared to CapCut, I wish those cunts weren't greedy kikes

>>723907074
it's cosmic. I might need to change to gnome because the interface always starts to freeze after i close some games.

>>723907902
Linux GUIs are also just trash in comparison their proprietary counterparts

>>723907742
Whether you can use program X or not has no relation to the functionality of the OS. Program X working depends on the developers of that program making it work. There's nothing the OS can do about it. (assuming Linux isn't trying to emulate Windows, which it's not)

>>723903524
>Needlessly complicated for what little benefits it provides
Not being windows gradually stops being a little benefit and becomes a humongous benefit.
With 11, microshits became extremely aggressive compared to how they used to be as of 10 release, and apparently that's only the beginning. The TPM chip being required today is just a groundwork for what they're actually plan to use it (a whitelist of microshit-signed applications, similar to apple ecosystem).

>>723902519
Bullshit, the only Indian using Linux is Mutahar

>>723907981
Then the fact that I want to use program X rules Linux out as an OS for me. Yes or no?

>>723885104 (OP)
I'm employed and regularly bathe.

>>723907937
>manually convert videos
ffmpeg will get you sorted out, make it an alias and you'll get it done in under a couple of seconds when you need it.

>>723908084
Yes.

>>723907948
>distro installs a beta DE by default
and people recommend this shitty distro to new users. wtf.

>>723908207
Then that is my response to OP. Maybe after another thirty years more things will work on it, but I don't think any of us are gonna be around that long.

How people can't follow simple instructions?

>>723908129
I think I'll try to find a better editing software as I despise using Resolve even without said problem

>>723885104 (OP)
It's not coming preinstalled on PCs you buy at Walmarts.

>>723908084
Then don't use it. Use microshit adware that you have to constantly fight for control over your own computer that you bought with your own money. If that's the life you want, no one can force you otherwise. Also for some reason when this discussion happens turns out that 4chins is choke full of professional graphic designers who absolutely need adobe shit. We both know you aren't a professional graphic designer.

>>723908567
I play games with kernal level anti-cheat
>NOOO THOSE GAMES ARE SLOP
I like having fun with my friends, what can I say?

>open up Chad GDP
>ask him how to do stuff on Linux
>gives me a step-by-step guide
Feels good actually having had touched grass instead of sacrificing all that time for nothing.

>>723908653
Last time I checked only sportsball simulator-level complete normalcattle games use rootkit anticheat. Stay on windows please, and don't forget to enable all the AI botnet tools.

>>723908567
>Then don't use it
say no more

>>723890850
he's still making videos, they're actually fairly comfy but he is forever tainted by the destruction of teksyndicate so it's just not the same unfortunately. after the BPDemon destroyed the channel she predictably became an onlyfans/twitch egirl but somehow fumbled that despite definitely being hot enough to have an army of simps and lives in relative obscurity despite still being active. wendell won

>>723908874
Nah, I get LTSC versions with all of that stripped out because no business would tolerate the bullshit Microsoft subjects the casual user to, so they give them the functional version.

>>723890281
I literally set up a local account easily. The only hiccup was that I had to give it admin privileges manually but that's easy.

And Right click menu? I've always had that. The old options are still there it's just an extra click which is slightly annoying but no big deal.

>>723909023
ltsc are typically terrible for regular users, and this is true on linux too - don't get ubuntu ltsc. they don't update as regularly and in the case of windows it's stripped of everything, not just the bloat.

>>723906328
Fella I got some bad news for you: That shit is already compromised for all of us. They got it. They won.

>>723909834
>ltsc are typically terrible for regular users
I have literally never had a single problem with it, just have an installer USB with some basic shit on it and you're good to go
>erm ackshuallee ltsc starts off with just a command line
This is a lie. So I'm putting it out there now before some retarded mouthbreather tries to cliam it works that way.

>>723909912
>That shit is already compromised for all of us
no? between linux and gdpr you're pretty proof.
>>723910041
>starts off with just a command line
that's actually the default arch install

>>723902693
>nvslop
>gamepads
The fuck is this? This is a gaming board fella and Nvidia is the top of the line for gaming GPUs.

>>723885104 (OP)
Is this trannysyndicate?

>>723909016
I always felt off about Logan, and never watched the content. Always liked Wendell and glad he's successful. You can always trust a fat tech guy.

>>723885104 (OP)
KERNEL PANIC
KERNEL PANIC
CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM
CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM

>>723907551
>>>723885104 (OP) (OP) #
>People like when their tools just work without the need to engage in fuckery to accomplish basic tasks

>>723910563
I just unplugged the computer from the internet and installed as normal

>>723910109
Yeah and Arch is terrible for regular users. Both Memebunt LTSC and Trannynux are terrible for regular users. What's your point?

>>723910671
>ubuntu ltsc
it's actually ubuntu LTS, and yeah it wouldn't be my first recommendation for new people on linux either. start with bazzite, a distro that you can use no matter how retarded you are.

>>723902587
>If I want my gamepad to work right, I can't just plug and play like Windows
Proof you haven't tried Linux since like 2017. Mint just works, retard.

>>723910657
Windows 11 requires internet connection. The button to create a local account when no internet is detected no longer appears.

>>723885104 (OP)
>Why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?
let's start with the fact that none of you agree about distros at all. It's impressive how common distro hopping is. If you change distros so often, it's because you had problems with the os, which means it's unreliable

>>723911453
I'm positive that's not going to be the case for its LTSC version, since it needs to run on machines with no internet connectivity

>>723911460
If you ask a linux user which distro you should use, he will answer with two distros, and neither will be the distro he uses.

>>723911460
just push all the casuals onto bazzite, they probably have handhelds too

>>723885104 (OP)
just momentum, windows had a massive market share for a long time. also a lot of people keep preinstalled systems in their devices instead of installing their own and most computers come with windows

valve has started fixing this problem with steamos but more work needs to be done

>Mint
If you want a jack-of-all-trades OS that's very beginner-friendly and hands-off.
>Bazzite
For a hands-off console-like experience and low-fuss gaming focus.
>CachyOS
For bleeding-edge Linux gaming performance and deeper customization/control, but you need a willingness to do some tinkering.

If you go off the beaten path:
>Avoid debian
Outdated software for the sake of stability. For gaming it's not good to have old graphics drivers
>Avoid Gnome
Shit desktop weighted down by the spergs developing it
>Avoid manjaro
Adds a layer on top of Arch which can make it break more easily. Arch forks are already done better by CachyOS, EndeavourOS and Omarchy

>>723885104 (OP)
I do

>>723911867
>Avoid Gnome
i disagree with that one. gnome is more stable than kde and has much more work put into accessibility, it's the "just works" DE backed by corporations. if you use a tablet or laptop it should be gnome by default as kde sucks there.

>>723911535
LTSC is for enterprise people to build system images and deploy on domains. It is not the same as IoT

>>723887189
Windows is the virus you absolute nigger

>>723911867
JUST USE WHATEVER IS MAINSTREAM

ALL DISTROS USE THE SAME KERNEL AND USER UTILITIES

DEBIAN OR FEDROA. MAYBE BAZZITE IF THEY MAKE INSTALLING CODECS EASIER.

>>723911867
Also gnome devs are dumb trannies but add in a system tray extension, enable minimize/maximize buttons in gnome tweaks, and it's the most efficient desktop environmen for productivity. The built in tools are decent enough.

>>723911867
>Outdated software for the sake of stability. For gaming it's not good to have old graphics drivers
gaming is solved this shouldn't matter and you can always use the flatpak

>>723887840
Kek no. Macos is not a stable enough platform for games. It's getting more games again now, sure, but that won't last. I give it 5 years until crapple deprecates all the APIs those games rely on or switches architecture or something and all those games break, as they have done multiple times before.

>>723907083
Lick my balls.

>>723911867
>Adds a layer on top of Arch which can make it break more easily.
Don't forget the horrible security bugs because the devs are genuinely inept. They literally created a distro out of sperging out about how Arch is "artificially" difficult because they removed the noob friendly install guide and provide no installer. I have never seen a genuinely bigger karma comeuppance in the fork wars.

>>723911460
>It's impressive how common distro hopping is.
Only teenagers with too much time on their hands distro hop. People who checked out linux and stuck with it have one favourite distro they use and 90% don't change. The rest usually fall into the Arch -> Gentoo or Arch -> Tranny pipeline.

>>723909747
>And the ass rape? I've always had that. It's just a couple inches which is slightly annoying but no big deal.

>>723912559
>system tray extension
fuck no
>maximize
grab the window to the panel and it will maximize.
>minimize
use workspaces like ebassi intended. minimizing a window is a very inefficient way to manage your windows. it's a bad habit inherited from microsoft.

>>723913009
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME CLICK ONE EXTRA TIME THAT'S LITERALLY RAPE!!!!
Grow up.

>>723900834
To be fair, pancreatic cancer has something like a 5% survival rate today. In 2011 it was even worse. It's literally one of the worst cancers you can get.

>>723885104 (OP)
I don’t play shit that needs configuration. Hard to imagine but I mainly play 2D single player games and they work fine on Windows.

I've been on Cachyos for a couple weeks now, Black Desert runs better on it than Windows by far.

>>723890178
>There's no setup nonsense or fishing around for various packages to get a game to sorta work.
Same here on Linux. I also don't have to tardwrangle my OS into not selling my data or into actually behaving the way I want it to.

>>723907981
>assuming Linux isn't trying to emulate Windows
But it does? Wine is literally that, almost nobody is releasing linux native games, the only reason you can even play shit is because windows emulation. At this point might as well just become windows emulator the os and stop pretending.

>>723913325
>windows emulator the os
WSL exists too, does that make windows the linux virtualization machine?

>>723913325
Wine isn't Linux you absolute dullard. That's like saying Microsoft Teams is Windows or Chrome is Windows. That's the level of retard you just went on.

>>723913325
windows emulator needs to happen because the vast majority of fucking games in existence tdon't have a linux port
native ports won't start happening until it's more present in the normie sphere, the deck by itself isn't enough

>>723885104 (OP)
>Want to play game on Windows
>Download it
>Play

>Want to play game on Linux
>Have to see if it's even supported on Linux
>Have to then jump through 1000 hoops to get it to run
>Runs like ass
>Also now you bricked your computer

>>723911453
easily bypassed, i appreciate normgroids suffer eternally but it's a skill issue and not my problem

>>723911867
For me it's PopOS with COSMIC.

>>723913985
>Want to play game on Windows
>Download it
>Play
>Runs like ass
>Also a windows update bricked your computer

>Want to play game on Linux
>No need to even check if it's even supported on Linux because pretty much all games work via Proton now
>Have to maybe select a different Proton version
>Play
>Runs great due to a non-bloated OS and shader precompilation

>>723913985
so you haven't even used linux and are just passing on what you heard in your normie game of telephone?

>>723913075
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME CLICK ONE EXTRA TIME THAT'S TOO COMPLICATED!!!!

>>723914167
lmao it's hardly easy. I'd have to look up instructions on the Internet to know how to do it and I've used Windows for decades. Also the steps change between different Windows 11 versions.

>>723914376
games on bloat 11 ran better than when i played them on mint. You can stop lying now

>>723913873
It might as well be, which is why i don't get fosstards not adopting it on linux kernel level. No end user will ever give a shit about linux without wine, proton etc, so might as well just fucking make all the windows system calls native to linux. Inb4 microshit will sue us, if shit hits internet it will stay on internet and the only thing microshit can do about it is seethe.

>>723885104 (OP)
Windows = Steam
Linux = Epic games store
Simple as

>>723913015
MY COMPUTER IS NOT A FUCKING TABLET YOU TRANNY
SYSTEM TRAYS ARE NOT OBSOLETE AND EVEN THE SMART PHONES YOU WANT TO SIMULATE.... ****HAVE A SYSTEM TRAY AT THE TOP****

Gaming Linux noob here, how should I structure my file system if I want to play games ? Are Steam games installed in /home ?

>>723914734
linux is open source, this means that whatever linus wants to add to the kernel can be removed at any time by anyone. your kernel level anti cheat would be useless in linux.

>>723914685
>mint
That's your issue. Mint is a great babbys first Linux, don't get me wrong, but it's not made for gaming because of how outdated the packages are.

>>723914585
it's trivial. i can't remember the exact steps to do it either even though i did it a few weeks ago but i remember that it was extremely easy. more people should do it, as well as pirating windows by using the free activation scripts

>>723914847
Yeah. Normally in .local or .share can't remember which. You can always set up custom folders.

/home/*username* is where ALL your user files go, so it's much easier to restore after a reinstall. All you have to do is install the programs you need then copy your home folder over.

>>723914756
Valve is the main reason Linux is so much better for gaming these days.

>>723915026
My dude, you're talking to someone who is capable of creating a folder called "CON" on Windows. If I have to look up instructions to do something on Windows, then it's not fucking trivial lmao.
Yeah, any monkey should be able to follow those instructions if they do find them and are at least semi-literate, but in reality most monkeys will not be able to tell if the instructions they are reading even apply to their particular version of Windows 11.

>>723914756
but steam is responsible for linux gaming becoming viable
timmy and his band of egs chinks threw a bitchfit and disabled linux compatibility because he thinks he can reclaim it from microsoft

>>723915360
>If I have to look up instructions to do something on Windows, then it's not fucking trivial lmao.
my apologies, i forgot what makes a normgroid a normgroid. i thought for a moment i could save you

>>723916648
>save someone
>by driving them to Windows
If he's comfortable on Linux why are you so bent out of shape?

>>723915079
Thanks you !

Is it a problem if I choose to encrypt my /home then ? I imagine it adds overhead when loading assets v?

>>723901597
Same. Just swapped out my 2070 super for a 9070XT. All I had to do was go to the driver manager and select mesa-git before I installed the new GPU and it worked. I probably didn't even have to go do that

>>723917282
NTA but the way encryption works is that there is a key stored on the drive somewhere and the boot process asks you for a password that decrypts the key, then uses the key to decrypt the actual full set of data. This can be a problem to recover from unless you know what you're doing. If you don't care/have backups prepared then performance can be a bit lower.

>>723885207
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/cpus/
Rent-free, poorfag.

>>723913087
While generally true Steve Jobs had the most curable type of pancreatic cancer you could get. If you have pancreatic cancer THIS is the type you want:
>Jobs stated that he had a rare, less aggressive type, known as islet cell neuroendocrine tumor.
For comparison the expected 5 year survival rate for most pancreatic cancer is 13%, while for the type Steve Jobs had it was 61%.

>Barrie R. Cassileth, the chief of Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center's integrative medicine department, said
>"Jobs's faith in alternative medicine likely cost him his life ... He had the only kind of pancreatic cancer that is treatable and curable ... He essentially committed suicide."

Not to mention the fact that Steve Jobs was a billionaire means his chances of survival would have likely been even higher since he'd have access to all the best treatment money could buy.

>>723916648
Save me from what? I have a Microsoft account that's probably older than you are, I don't need to bypass the requirement.

>>723913075
Kys nigger. Having to click on more any time you need to do anything more complicated than copypaste quickly adds up. And this is how enshittification starts, first, it's something most users never notice, then something a few more people need, until the whole product has been reduced to a kids toy level.

>>723903524
But enough about windows

>>723885207
>all those brownoids seething

>>723908340
/v/ is a normalfag board anon (aka retards)

Because it doesn't come with most computers. That's it. Tons of people have Android phones which is Linux BTW.

>>723885104 (OP)
"if"

>>723920136
brown people have android phones

>>723920381
you identify with urban sóyboys and vocal trill femoids just because they're white?

>>723920469
vocal fry*

>>723887949
It has for me. Been using it for a couple months now. Ignore answers that just say shit like "it's a meme" and nothing else. It's a good distro. Works especially well if you have AMD hardware. I've only had like 1 game just not work that wasn't kernel level anticheat which doesn't work on Linux anyway.

>>723914167
You do all this retarded shit yet refuse to switch to linux. Curious

>>723904139
Sounds like you just got filtered by not even doing the bare minimum research. Do you go through everything in life needing someone to hold your hand? Helldivers 2 uses kernel level anticheat which will never work on Linux because it is literal spyware. If you really want to play dogshit that uses it, dual-boot windows LTSC or something else lightweight.
>Adobe
You shouldn't be using their software in the first place. They're a scum company and you have to pay an unsub fee to stop using their shit. You are literally just retarded if you lead yourself into that trap. If it's Photoshop you're attached to, you don't even need to use GIMP. Photopea is a fine alternative that is much cheaper and improving all the time.

>>723917282
It doesn't really matter on modern systems. Encrypt your data. Also set up proper backups so you never have to do a real data recovery. Use the 3-2-1 method.

Use the program vorta for borg backup. It let's you do incremental, scheduled, compressed backups and is amazing. I have 1 repo on my spare hdd (internal), and 2 for external HDDs. It just works. Don't lose your passwords! Write them down.

>>723920642
windows is built on a foundation of sunk cost fallacy
they'd rather learn to tolerate individual shit nuggets of enshittification than be faced with a prospect of relearning the entire os even though much of it actually translates

>>723905824
Use Photopea, retard.

I switched recently after microjeet decided to force win11 on me and aside from a few peripherals not having official drivers I really don't see what the issue with linux is.
Literall all my games work

>>723907187
I've done both and installing a Linux distro tends to be easier. Installing Mint takes like 5 minutes.

>>723921421
>online services
I'd use it if I could run it offline. GIMP sucks as but at least it runs on my local pc

>>723885104 (OP)
Why is /v/ just a rotation of stock threads?

>>723907728
Linux is not going to brick your computer. That's not even possible. Some distros don't even require you to have a fucking BIOS. If anything, Linux tends to turn bricks into actual computers.

>>723921571
because people want to talk about it
if you don't like it then create yet another entry in the rape general
be the change you wish to see in the world

>>723921815
>people wanna talk
>people
lmao you think bots are people.

>>723907742
It is not the fault of Linux that companies don't want to make their applications compatible with it. That's a business decision. M$ is going to make their shit Windows exclusive because they want people to buy Windows. Linux doesn't exist to make money. It exists to provide free access to computing.

FSR4.

>>723885104 (OP)
>2 weeks trying setup sound
Yeah, never more.

>>723921571
I don't speak for all developers, but if we go unfiltered like we can on 4chan on social media, we'd just get in trouble.

>>723908084
That's a different question. Linux is a perfectly functional OS. You insisting that you want a specific application that there are alternatives for is a you problem.

>>723908084
https://www.winboat.app/

why would i want to turn using my pc in my leisure time into a chore i have to do constant maintenance on?

>>723914957
Lol here we go again. Every Linux fag recommends one distro then one an issue pops up they immediately shit on the user and tell them they should have used something else. Desktop Linux is such a joke it's unreal. The overall lack of cohesion means that you'll be spending a disgusting amount of time troubleshooting problems rather than doing any actual work. I would know. I tried dual booting multiple different distros and could only last two months before throwing in the towel. At the end of the day, using any Linux distro is like experiencing death by a thousand paper cuts.

>>723922183
Who said that? I never have to do maintenance on Linux.

>>723912357
KDE is much better for desktops and laptops. GNOME is a tablet DE. I would never use it on anything that I would use MKB for.

>>723913934
Just because something isn't native to Linux doesn't mean you have to emulate Windows for it to run. There are tons of non-native applications that run perfectly fine out of the box on Linux.

>>723922183
But enough about windows 11.

>>723922184
>because users disagree on the form of the same product they'd prefer to use, the product must be shit!
Life must be so hard being as retarded as you.

I just don't see the point. I made my own install of Win10 that rips out all of the bloat (could almost call a distro). I have an arch install that i put on a generic laptop and...i just don't get why i would care about it. The one thing i don't get with my Windows install is why the boot time gets slower even though i have a dedicated m.2 drive for the OS that nothing else gets installed on. Seems like having to check the other drives as stuff gets installed on them slows the boot down. If i could fix that without reinstalling my OS, i'd be 100% satisfied. But that complaint alone is not going to get me to switch.

>>723890420
linux troons unironically use software called "fedora"

>>723901597
>werks on my machine(TM)

>>723922906
>users disagree on the form of the same product they'd prefer to use, the product must be shit!
yes? how is not being able to agree on 1 good distro a good thing? Ask any windows user they'll say 7 was peak. It's that simple. No fedoras, no troonbuntus, just a simple consensus

>>723923149
>windows 10
you're already getting shittier performance than 11 and proton on linux
all that cope because you're scared of relearning an os

>>723922184
>Every Linux fag recommends one distro then one an issue pops up they immediately shit on the user and tell them they should have used something else.
In this case it is unironically true with mint. I have no idea who tf keeps making so many posts recommending it on /v/ just because its "beginner friendly" or whatever, but the packages are old as shit, if you play any modern games or have any modern hardware at all you do not want mint. If that doesn't apply to you then its fine but it should not be the default first recommendation. Believe me, i fell for the shilling myself when my pc was new and it barely worked, just constant crashes and instability lmao

>>723923738
because windows doesn't have distros you dumbass, microsoft forcibly obsoletes everything old, you don't get to choose, at best you pick ltsc because it has less spyware like that's a fucking choice, you have one main version and that's it

>>723923524
>skeletroon

>>723918465
>3 cpus
>5 cpus
>9 cpus
who the fuck

>>723923985
so instead of 1 reliable OS it's a gender spectrum of tranny distros who can play some games and cant play other games
just make 1 good one you insufferable faggots

>>723911867
>Arch forks
I don't really understand the profusion of arch forks. Is it just so people don't need to look up pacman -S ricerwmoftheweek?
Drivers just work. Networking just works. Is it the install process? People can't use their computer if it doesn't come preinstalled with a gtk calculator?

>>723923738
I used to be a Windows user and I disagree with "Windows 7 was peak". The only good feature Windows 7 brought over XP was UAC, but that works better in Windows 10 (and maybe) 11, I haven't tested.
It was a bloated turd. XP was too, compared to Windows 2000 anyway.

>>723924030
3 core CPUs aren't that unheard of, I have one. 5 core and 9 core likely mean either Intel ecore pcore crap or a 10 core or higher CPU with 1 core disabled.
If your CPU gets fucked up you may need to disable a core or couple to get it stable.

>>723924121
No that's not what it is at all.

I've always wondered if you could stream effectively on a Linux rig if you knew what you were doing. Video editing I know is more than possible and probably has about the same levels of annoyance and BS as windows, but I haven't heard of anyone using Linux to stream.

>>723923149
>I just don't see the point. I made my own install of Win10 that rips out all of the bloat
Well, I mean clearly you see the point if you went through the trouble of hand rolling a windows "distro". I guess its a question of which you find to be the shortest path, fighting microsoft to get a usable operating system by paring back the most egregious parts, or starting from a clean slate working your way up to one.
I personally found the "I took windows and gutted it until it worked the way I wanted" to be confusing, but I guess if you're already very familiar with windows system administration it might make sense but I couldn't imagine investing so much time and effort into such a hostile ecosystem.

>>723924121
the only games you won't be able to play are blatant security violations that windows allows to fester
you're probably just crying about a DE

>>723903078
How bad is it actually? I mean some Linux expert might say they never have these issues because they've been practicing 10 years and can avoid all the pitfalls in advance, whereas for a noob there's 5 million ways to fuck things up.

>>723923985
>>723924121
>Uhh i'm still on windows 10 home edition and it works fine
> >home edition >not professional >ishygddt
>BRO just install windows 10 IoT LTSC instead
>which one i'm already on 22H2
>enjoy ur botnet i'm still on 1909
>7 still works for me bro
>LOOK AT THE POORFAG STILL ON 7 LMAO guys why did my pc just restart by itself

>>723924434
OBS is native.

>>723885104 (OP)
As someone who has been gaming on linux for 10 years, I really do not know why someone would want to use Windows.

>>723924434
OBS literally just works to the point its not even a consideration as much as the video editing part.

>>723924504
You literally type 3 words to install something.
2 depending on distro.

>>723924521
Sure but what about all the streamlabs, stream deck, y know like normal dumb streamer bullshit.

>>723924434
Louis Rossmann does for an example in the wild. He somehow still has occasional pipewire issues which I find to be fascinating, since for me pipewire finally put the pulse vs jack vs alsa catastrophe to bed.

>>723924434
You can stream fine.

>>723924504
I'm a noob, I found tons of fun ways to fuck shit up. Broke my bootloader no less than 2 times. I've also fucked my Windows install a couple of times, so don't think I don't have the ability to do that.
What that image describes is some retard going out of his way to do something retarded though, like I wouldn't do something like that. If I do something retarded it's by accident.

>>723923738
Let me water it down for you. Every distro is still Linux. They are all different flavors of the same thing. Some of them are better suited for certain things. The fact that you let the shitposts dissuade you from it entirely is pathetic. Do you always let disagreements over things that are ultimately immaterial force you to withdraw? 4chan is not going to give you serious answers and you're a retard for looking for them here.

Better yet, let me lay it out by a handful of distros:

Mint - a good general use distro; easy install, high stability; easy for Windows users to learn; lightweight, fast, and no bloat

CachyOS - a more customizable Mint

Bazzite - a gaming centric distro with high stability and compatibility with most hardware; immutable, so low risk of unintentionally fucking anything up

Ubuntu - like Bazzite but not immutable so you can customize more shit but risky if you don't know what you're doing; still easy to use and lightweight; experience is what you make it

Arch - advanced distro for people that want everything fine-tuned to their liking; not recommended for anyone without an abundance of spare time

You are never going to have a consensus when there are multiple versions of the same thing. You don't even have that with Windows. People argue all the time about 7 vs 8 vs 10 vs XP and whatever the fuck. That's just a fucking stupid pivot point to give yourself.

>>723924701
>When you forget to add /boot to fstab and every time you update your kernel you brick your boot loader.
Windows users accuse linux users of being unable to play games. What they don't understand is that I've ascended beyond an operating system that allows me to install games. I have an operating system which IS a game.

>>723924121
>reliable
lol. lmao, even

>>723924151
im dumb and not a linux autist whos super familiar with everything and all i ever read is horror stories about how you have to manually configure everything, updating breaks everything, etc. i dont know how true that all is but arch is presented in such an offputting way that i dont wanna touch it
but i still like the idea of the os and everything else i ever tried like fedora and ubuntu and opensuse tumbleweed gave me some kind of problems, so i just use endeavour for the arch experience but easier for retards like me, and it just works perfectly. thats my pov anyway. if theres any reason i should even touch vanilla arch then let me know

>>723924779
I reinstalled grub to /boot/EFI instead of /boot by accident, imagine my surprise when it didn't boot afterwards.

>>723925067
>I keep reading propaganda

>>723885104 (OP)
My chinkheld is linux

>>723885207
I fucking wish bro.

>>723885104 (OP)
that's definitely a fallacy of some kind.

>>723925067
Arch is best to use on a device that you don't use for anything important. Updates don't break literally everything. Worst case you can roll back to a previous version and just wait until a more stable one rolls out. Arch gets updates constantly so it's not like it'll take long. That's a byproduct of using a bleeding edge distro that's maintained by people who do it for a hobby. If you want to put the time into learning it, Arch is probably the best documented distro in existence and even the most minor of things probably has an entry on the wiki. You can fine tune it to do exactly the things you want as long exactly how you want them as long as you know how to code and use the terminal. There's a learning curve to it just as there is with everything. You can get exactly what you want, but it comes at the cost of work. It's up to you to determine how much getting exactly what you want is worth to you.

>>723901357
>Linux: Corpo Edition
You mean SteamOS? Of which faggots chose to make even more day by forking it into Bazzite?

I haven't up to this point because, by and large, windows just works and you don't HAVE to learn anything or tweak anything if you don't want to. You can throw on a fresh install, install steam, and play your games. No fuss. I very much doubt this is the same way for Linux.

That being said with Windows and AI integration enshittification beginning to become mandatory... I think it's about time to start learning.

>>723925067
Its not that bad, its just fun to shitpost about bootloaders exploding.
>>723925415
I've HEARD of bad updates, but >>723924779 is the only way I've managed to actually break my install via an update. Don't blow away your daily driver with an arch install to start with, definitely.
>You can fine tune it to do exactly the things you want as long exactly how you want them as long as you know how to code and use the terminal. There's a learning curve to it just as there is with everything
I think something that people don't realise about this is that you don't HAVE to do this. You don't HAVE to go rice the everloving fuck out of arch. You can just install a basic bitch window manager and then when you go "Oh shit I need a calculator"
>Pacman -Ss calc
>Yeah that'll do gimme that one

>>723925748
>You can throw on a fresh install, install steam, and play your games. No fuss.
That very much untrue considering all the microsoft bullshit and office 365 cloud whatever ads you have to waddle trhough before being able to get to the actual os.
Kubuntu is quite literally easier and more seamlessly to install and start using than windows in my opinion.

all softwares that matter work natively on windows and that's all that matter

>>723925943
To be fair I have not installed Win 11 and every time I've formatted for a clean install I use a Win 10 boot stick.

>>723925748
>you don't have to learn anything
didn't know babies were born innately knowing how to use windows

>>723926013
My game only compiles on linux because I use berkeley sockets :)

>>723925748
>"sudo apt install steam" is harder than installing a nonshit web browser then having to hunt for the executable then look for it on downloads and go through the little faggy install wizard

>>723926079
i said all software that matter
please learn to read before replying

>>723926157
My game matters :( its a multiplayer dungeon crawler. Its really fun I promise.
I added vore anon. Just for you.

>>723926051
You are living on borrowed time. Also hope you are running ltsc otherwise some versions of w10 force you to make an outlook account to use your own computer.

>>723926097
Well you kinda misunderstand the point here. Yes, that's easier if you know what you're doing. If you're looking for the point and click way, you open Edge, type in "steam" and hit the "install steam" button on steams home page and click next when prompted. That is easier for the computer illiterate than to learn what a terminal is.

>>723925748
>you don't have to learn anything
Jesus Christ, Windows really has fried your brain. Everything has a learning curve. The reason you know how to use Windows in the first place is because you learned how. You can do the same with Linux and get it to work just as well, you just don't want to. That's fine, but you can't say "you don't have to learn anything with Windows."

>>723926240
>>723926204
I did go on to say in my post that it's about time to start learning. I'm not opposed to it I just haven't felt the need to until recently.

>>723925761
>Don't blow away your daily driver with an arch install to start with, definitely.
I did that and it's fine. Had to learn to fix my bootloader when I bricked it by doing idiotic shit, though. Cuz reinstalling wasn't an option anymore.

>>723926229
>typing steam windows :O
>typing steam Linux :(

>>723924514
Anon, if they were smart enough to understand your mocking, they wouldn't have said what they did in the first place.

>>723926229
Learning how to do that on windows also took a learning curve, you just were used to it from a lifetime of using windows. We need to teach newer generations linux from the getgo so they baby duck into it. There is also the benefit that the poison known as roblox doesn't run natively on linux.

Win11 is pissing me off something fierce.
Probably moving over to Proxmox and just virtualizing everything once i've had enough.
All i'd have to give up are multiplayer games that can't be run in a VM. (or just keep my laptop on a regular OS for those)

>>723924121
>just make 1 good one
It's called kubuntu.

>>723925761
>You don't HAVE to go rice the everloving fuck out of arch
Precisely. Ironically what scares people the most about Arch is the fact that it is such a good distro. You have absolute freedom and it's so lightweight you can make it run on a toaster. People are conditioned to having everything served up on a platter for them and not even having to do 5 seconds of work to get it for themselves. Admittedly, the install process is a barrier. It took me about 2 hours to get it on my shitty second hand laptop. But having the damn thing run like brand new and with snappiness that I've never seen on a computer was perspective changing.

>>723926437
>we need to sequester the children away from the masses
>tie them to this chair and deny them food until they can fix a bootloader and update kernel via terminal and compile their own distros
>ITS FOR THEIR OWN GOOD DONT YOU SEE GET AWAY FROM ME WITH THOSE CUFFS DO NOT OPEN MY DRIVE THATS PRIVATE THOSE ARENT REAL CHI-
lmao I get what you're saying but imagining your average gentooman interacting with children is very funny

>>723926561
>It's called meme Debian

>>723926582
They really need a "what is the fewest number of commands required to get me to boot into an operating system with networking and a command line" install guide
Its full shit like set your locale and your custom i18n keyboard layout and.. Bitch I don't care I just want a working bootloader I'll figure the rest out after

With one push of a button my computer turns on and I can do whatever I want with ease on Windows. I'm not about to fight with Linux to do basic shit. Stop making cope threads if you're happy with your choice.

>>723900834
He was right to refuse the medical industry's treatments, but his own solution was retarded

>>723926324
Unironically the best time to learn a Linux distro is when you don't need to. Getting to ease into it and having time to get comfortable is the best way to become familiar with it. A lot of people fuck around with Linux trying to do something specific without even getting a feel for whatever distro they picked. Then they decide they hate it because they can't figure out how to do X specific thing in half a second. I made a hobby out of distro hopping on a shitty little used laptop and it was fun seeing the minor differences between them. Is that a way to become a Linux expert? Not really, but it does get you comfortable with the install process and makes it feel less daunting to learn new things. Learning doesn't come to you, you have to go get it.

I'm tired of trying to show normalfags the way. I will let them suffer in their ad ridden ai cloud hell while I seclude myself in my own libre world from now on. Farewell

>>723926982
WE MUST BE BETTER USERS

>>723925725
Steam OS is arch.

Fedora is the corporate Linux.

Bazzite is based on fedora

>>723926784
I'm sure there is one somewhere. I actually watched Mutahar's tutorial on installing it and used ChatGPT to walk me through whatever specific issue I ran into for the device I was installing on. It wasn't necessarily hard, it just took time.

>>723926982
I have a Lenovo Thinkpad I liberated from work not long ago. I should find a power cable for it and give this a go. Not gonna hop into Arch but Ubuntu sounds like a good starting point.

just put rEFInd on your EFI partition and then you never need to set up a /boot partition again

>>723927119
I mean, yeah. When you get conditioned to relying on a product to do literally every single little thing for you, you lose the ability to do your own troubleshooting. That goes for anything. You can save a lot of time and money doing your own car maintenance, most people just don't want to so they give up the freedom to decide how their maintenance is done and a good chunk of change along with it. Relinquishing those things to someone else leaves you with less power as a user/consumer and ultimately allows whoever you relinquished it to to decide what you get.

>>723926910
Why do wincels make insecure posts like this?

>>723927186
Ubuntu is a good beginner distro. I used it a few years ago and it was pretty easy even then. You will have a lot of people telling you little things here and there that they don't like about it, but it's up to you to decide if they're worth dealing with. There is also Xubuntu and Kubuntu for different use cases. Ubuntu is probably the most bloated of the bunch and uses the GNOME desktop environment which isn't everyone's cup of tea. If you like it, go for it. Xubuntu is the most lightweight of them. It used the XFCE desktop environment which is very simple and minimalist. It will be the fastest of them. Kubuntu as far as bloat is a medium between the two and it uses KDE which is similar to the Windows desktop environment. Do yourself the favor of spending like half an hour or something researching them before you install one. There are YouTube videos that showcase them all.

Indian thread.

>>723885104 (OP)
>install Linux
>nothing works
>go back to windows

I installed mint with the intention of using AI applications on my AMD gpu and I couldn't even install gpu drivers. Windows and ZLUDA are trash, but they're far easier to work with than anything involving linux.

>>723927186
It's ok, but I for one hate what they did to Gnome. I don't like Gnome to begin with, but the one in Ubuntu feels even worse than the default one.

>>723927942
H1b programming work fine sarr

>>723928056
>my AMD gpu
>I couldn't even install gpu drivers

bro

the linux kernel comes with AMD drivers built in
you literally don't have to do anything

>>723928056
>>723928101
>He fell for the ROCm propaganda
Heh gottem

>>723928056
Works on my machine. It was definitely user error if you couldn't even get shit to work on Mint of all distros. Do the bare minimum troubleshooting. Unironically ChatGPT.

>>723885104 (OP)
>Why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?
way too complicated

>>723928170
Slops just fine on my machine

>>723924151
>Is it the install process?
Holy shit you cracked the code! How could I have been so blind as to not realize that the ease of install is what allows arch derivates to thrive

>>723928056
you can probably get it running in a podman container even

>>723912357
Hello ebussy. How's it going

It still doesn't work as a desktop, long term too much work even when you know what you're doing
Also system d killed linux

>>723887076
You're just white on the inside, you're evolving.

>>723928170
works just fine on my machine. i'd post proof but i don't feel like dodging bans.

>>723885312
>Also there aren't any Linux exclusives that anyone cares about.
this isn't a fucking console retard, there isn't a Windows exclusive game out there either if we go by this metric

>>723924030
virtual machines

>>723912440
>ALL DISTROS USE THE SAME KERNEL AND USER UTILITIES
Debian: kernel version 3.9 and user utilities version 0.3
Literally everything else: kernel version 9000 and user utilities version 69

>>723928459
My desktop is working right now though?

>>723928729
Same, that guy is making shit up.

Why don't gamers use games for gaming?

Why do people ask such stupid fuckong questions that displays just how fractured their brains and thoughts are?

>>723928193
I did use ChatGPT for multiple hours and it didn't help shit. Maybe ChatGPT doesn't know what it's talking about, but it shouldn't be necessary in the first place

>>723928562
Works for me too, but only because I shelled out for a 7900xtx. Technically you can get 5700xt that I used to have working but only old versions of rocm running on old versions pytorch and its missing certain features and so on so forth. I think its really stupid of AMD to try to enter this space and not make it hard line to support at least as far back as the 5000 series.

>>723901905
Do you believe it when faggots tell you that men can give birth?
No?
Then why are you listening to faggots when it comes to Linux distros?

>>723914357
Ultimately what works the best for you is what you should be using. I'm only trying to guide new users to have a smooth landing. They can experiment once they have the fundamentals in place

>>723887149
pirate vanguard princess

>>723928634
Please understand. We must be secure. This is why we run kernel versions old enough to drive. They're more secure you need to understand.

>>723928891
yeah. i have a 6700XT. it's slow but it works well enough.

>>723928634
Current Debian is decently up to to date. Plasma 6.3.5 for example. Arch has 6.4.5. It's only a couple of months old.

>>723928890
Not gonna say ChatGPT is perfect but that doesn't mean you told it the right things either. It's also not necessary, it's just a tool to make things easier. Evidently even the simplest things are really hard for you.

>>723923806
I don't care to learn something i don't need to. It's a time sink that, from what I'm reading in this thread, is more of a pain in the ass than its worth if you don't need it.

>>723924460
I feel like i could substitute linux into your post where you say windows for the same effect. The reason i put in said effort is because it's not really much effort for something I'm comfortable with, and I get off to the idea of using something in a way that said hostile company doesn't want me to, and getting everything i want from it whether they like it or not

>>723929669
Horrayyy for the next half a year after which it will be stuck in place for 10 years.

>>723885207
durgasoft teaches otherwise

>>723929884
Always a scapegoat, it's never just "linux sucks and isn't ready for widespread adoption"

>>723885104 (OP)
Switch to linux have driver issues. Be forced back to windows. Maybe if shit worked properly I would have stayed.

>>723910495
>You can always trust a fat tech guy.
What about tech shrek?

Because what matters for scientists who need servers that can stay on for years without rebooting so data coming from a satellite near freakin Plutoi s not lost doesn't necessarily impress teenagers who play video games for an hour or two every now and then?

>>723907187
Linux install experience:
>Select language
>Select timezone
>Select hard drive you want to install it on.
>Set username
>Set password
>Select desktop environment
>Select package manager.
Done.


Windows install experience:
>Select language
>Select timezone
>Select version of windows
>Enter product key
>Sign EULA humiliation ritual and give away your legal rights under arbitration.
>Select hard drive you want to install it on.
>What country are you from saar?
>Do you need to change your keyboard layout saar?
>Redeem the wifi and internet connection, now.
>Sign in or create your Microsoft’s Account©™ username.
>Sign in or create your Microsoft’s Account©™ password.
>Would you like to redeem the data we have saved from your old computers saar?
>Would you like apps to track your location saar?
>Would you like to use find my device saar?
>Would you like to send us the diagnostic data saar?
>Would you like to send us your typing data saar?
>Would you like us to tag you with advertising ID saar?
>Tell us what you will use this computer for so we can install more bloatware saar.
>Please link your phone to your computer saar.
>Would you like to redeem the OneDrive©™ saar?
>Would you like to redeem the web browser data saar?
>Would you like to redeem the Microsoft Office©™ saar?
>Would you like to redeem the 100GB of cloud data saar?
Done. (finally)

linux is still worthless if you have an nvidia card

>>723885104 (OP)
There isnt enough trannies and pedos to make it popular

The year of the linux desktop will never be a reality until they can match Windows' ease of use and software support

>>723901597
Lmfao, gay ass nerd

>>723887978
If Linux is so good then why don't more people use it?

>>723885104 (OP)
Installed Mint in July, it has been really good so far, literally everything Just Works*tm.
Linux came a LONG way in the last 10 or so since I tried it the last time.
Also Steam and proton helped immensely, I can just add any game to steam and it magically opens it without need to configure anything other than what version of proton to use.

>>723928418
Use case for going?

>>723885104 (OP)
i do though
>installing mint/endeavour
>plug in flash drive
>click through settings
>done in less than 5 minutes
>spend 5 minutes installing any big software i want right away through terminal or through the software manager
>download game
>play
>tinkertroon everything else in my spare time

>installing windows
>pray hard drive is formatted correctly otherwise windows will throw a hissy fit
>get several microsoft advertisements
>make windows account
>spend 40 minutes installing all my programs from exe's
>spend hour disabling/uninstalling bloatware slop that microsoft will fight me at every turn to reinstall on my behalf or switch back on
>windows will restart in 15 minutes to install updates
>kills my ssd
>windows will restart in 15 minutes to install updates
>disables my mouse and keyboard upon restart
>finally get in
>press start button
>comes up blank
>type steam into search bar
>opens up bing instead of searching files
>finally get to steam
>download and play game
>tinkertroon my wallpaper since i cant change anything else
Every operating system has its issues but for some reason people pretend like windows isnt the most user unfriendly piece of fucking shit software in the world when an actual issue comes up, which is fucking often. Then you go onto microsoft forums and have patel diksheet with 13k posts telling you to reinstall windows for a minor driver problem.

>>723885104 (OP)
It's shit, but it's less shit than WIndows 10/11, so i'm using it "because it's the better option" rather than because it's good.
Win7 was actually good.

>>723932320
Someone needs to make a custom version of Windows 7 with all the pros of newer Windows releases and none of the cons

>>723931548
>windows
>ease of use

>>723900167
I encountered more issues installing Linux than Windows 11. Ubuntu refused to install for me, but Mint installed and then crashed right away. Eventually, I managed to get Mint running fine.Mint running fine.

I stopped using it ever since i got out of that phase of wanting to feel "smarter" or "better" than anyone.

>>723932697
Yet you still post on 4chan.

>>723931392
I love all the personalized ads, delivered hot n ready embedded within your OS.

>>723932697
That's a retarded reason to use linux, specially because you end falling for several retarded memes like gentoo.
Linux is better used by seeking comfort in it, and tweaking things to be cozy, and not having shit thrown at your face every 5 minutes by an annoying clown OS.

I had an epiphany the other day that there is literally no Linux gaming. All of these threads are just streaming, webms from Windows, etc. It's all a lie. It's the most disturbed I've ever felt. There is a cult on /v/. You are all pretending.

>>723885104 (OP)
So do I need a USB and to back up files?

>>723933578
Wincels truly don't live in reality.

>>723933578
Nah, it's real.
However, it is basically the same shit as windows, except that some games don't run, and some games run better and GTAIV runs way, way better.
There's no inherent advantage of playing games on linux unless you have a low end AMD video card or iGPU.
Which in my case i do, so i do benefit from running linux.

>>723933678
Yes, but if the thing comes with gparted, you might just create a dual boot machine.

>>723933678
Basically yeah.
>download iso
>use Rufus to install iso onto USB
>back up files you want to keep that are on the drive being installed to
>boot from USB to launch the installer/live boot

>>723932592
Yeah I dunno about that. I never had issues with either on most of my computers, except it was very difficult to get many distros to boot right and then run without issues on my Athlon 64 3200+ system. Windows wouldn't boot on that either though.

>>723933578
Well, I've seen many pro Linux users actually use Windows as their main OS. It's crazy how many do it.

Linux still has lot of issues. >>723933719
GTA4 runs better in what way?

>dependency "hell"
I believe you guys call that 'tinkering.'

>>723933932
Twice the frame rate, but it's mostly dxvk being dxvk.
GTA IV does something that fucks with the real DirectX9 royally, but the emulator is good at dealing with that.

>>723885104 (OP)
because linux isn't really that good and just a huge hassle to deal with compared to wangblows. it's a trade off. there's no perfect OS system anymore. I hope you like the future

>>723933790
I had some weird issues, but I think it was because I use a Nvidia GPU. Because out the play all my games stop working on mint.

>>723934049
I play it on Windows, and GTA4 runs smoothly for me, but I'm capping it at 75fps.

>>723885207
Maybe but OSS is a bastion of trannies. The only ones who think otherwise has never contributed to anything or worked on anything OSS.

>>723933774
>>723933775
Thank you anons and have a blessed day.

>>723934161
Tranny shit is a propaganda created by the megacorporations to kill everyone that could oppose em.
Alternate OS devs, emulator authors, people removing the functionality of the intel ME... all trannied up.
And if you think that's a coincidence, you're naive as fuck.

>>723934915
The Unabomber almost transitioned too
Makes you think :)

>>723934915
So trannies are good?

>>723935095
As good as people that got incapacitated by napalm.

>>723934915
For some reason I truly believe Linux users believe this crap.

Honestly was disappointed when I swapped to Linux, people here spent years telling me how complex Linux is so I was excited to be challenged and to struggle.
Apparently reading and writing are too complex for the average poster here because everything was straight forward and simple.

>>723885104 (OP)
Posted it again award
sage

>>723885104 (OP)
Because most people are too lazy and/or retarded to install and learn an alternate operating system. It'll take devices like the Steam Deck that has some form of Linux preinstalled to get people to switch

>>723911460
>none of you agree about distros at all
That's patently false. Most people recommend something Like Mint or Ubuntu

>>723935171
You sound like the linux from scratch audience.

>>723935221
You should see how many people can barely use Windows. I work at a company with over 1,200 employees, and everything we use is based on Windows. It's amazing how difficult it can be for them. Now, imagine how challenging Linux would be for these users.nux would be for these users.

>>723935761
95% of users just need a browser

>>723935848
Also, and that's why Linux will never take over.

>>723930276
Yeah the scapegoats retards usually use is "this thing sucks! I can't figure it out!"

>>723933578
Well damn I'll have to think about that next time I'm running GTA 5 at 144 fps on Bazzite.

>>723885104 (OP)
because linux is worse at video games, which is the main reason i have a PC
imagine thousands of retards telling you not to buy a multi-bit screwdriver and to buy a phillips when half of the screws you work with are flathead, but at least the phillips "respects your privacy"

>>723885104 (OP)
I'm pretty retarded and I have used Linux occasionally. I installed in on a low end laptop because windows was too much of a fat ass for it; I've also got a steam deck and I've messed around in the steam OS desktop mode on that a bit.

The reason I haven't installed it on my main PC is because up until recently I haven't given a shit. Windows was the default os and it was fine as far as what I used it for. Things that seem to drive smarter people nuts, like weird update bullshit, didn't bother me.

More recently though, I'm starting to lose patience with Windows. It's pretty obviously gotten jeeted to hell in the past years with bullshit advertisements, AI horseshit, changing my desktop around without asking. I'm probably gonna jump ship to Linux soon, I'm waiting to see if Gabe can get it to handle Nvidia hardware better.

>>723926079
>>723926157
>Flexing on /v/ with [not video games]
Winsock.

>>723930085
Well the point I was making is that when I start with a linux install I start with a clean slate and I explicitly pick the stuff I want. When you start with a windows install you have to pick out the stuff you don't want. Opt in vs opt out.
>I get off to the idea of using something in a way that said hostile company doesn't want me to
Strange stance, smells a bit like a cope to me. The way you stick to the man is by denying their foothold on the ecosystem, not by insisting that you can use their software despite their best effort. That signals to them that they can continue shitting up computers and users will find a way to cope.

>>723936917
Linux is worse at everything normal people care about and is 100x harder to use than Windows. That coupled with the hostile attitude from you autistic faggots will ensure Windows' dominance forever

>>723935221
I love the monkey paw that is
>Users finally start using linux and its as a walled garden
Its WINE not PROTON okay

>>723937648
but normal people just need a browser, browsers run fine
in fact, most normal people don't use PCs at all, they just use phones which roughly half or so run Android already

>>723937360
I'll winsock you in the face if you say one more word.

>>723937765
I installed an ackshual linux distro on my phone and it went from agony to comfortable. No more "which fucking gesture do I need to use to find the shit thats running right now" or "where is the god damn setting for tethering".
Just an easy systemctl start xyz on the virtual keyboard and you're away to the races!
I wish that was ironic but I hate mobile UIs so god damn much I'd literally rather use a terminal on a virtual keyboard

>>723937231
this but literally the opposite. its more like getting told to buy a multi bit screwdriver kit with torx, philip, flat, square, hex, frearson and turning your nose up to it because youre too scared to change out the bits yourself.
>>723937648
>Linux is worse at everything normal people care about and is 100x harder to use than Windows
name 2

>>723934079
Well, the thing is I only have nvidia hardware. Granted I've never used Mint specifically on any gaming capable hardware (I would never). I've only played video games on Arch, CachyOS and EndeavourOS. Never had a single problem installing those. CachyOS was the only one of those that had obvious issues for me while gaming.

>>723935171
Install Gentoo then. Or do an Arch setup manually. That's about the most complex procedurally you can get while still being practical. It won't be much of a struggle if you're over 100 IQ though. That said, you can definitely get some struggle from those. Specially if you fuck shit up by accident.

>>723923889
What do you use? I currently dual boot Mint and Windows 10 I pirated ESU but I have a third disk to experiment with. I was thinking CachyOS. I have the newest AMD hardware.

>>723923889
>if you play any modern games or have any modern hardware at all you do not want mint
No wonder I had such strange fucked up problems trying it with my RX 9070

What fucking propaganda did they run to convince people to constantly recommend mint?

For any morons that are also tech iliterates let me give you the simplest of guides for dishing windows out and switching to linux.
For starters forget all the memes
Step 1>>723924714
Step 2
Stick to mint regardless
Why? It's the simplest to learn of them all, it's not the best, it's the most stable, if you are a moron then the first step is learning how not to be one, stability is better than performance
Step 3 get rufus(or an alternative) and a mint iso (or an alternative if you hate yourself) (yt tutorial if you are retarded enough)
Step 4 f2 to go in bios or f12 if you're on pc
Step 5: pick the usb you just made with rufus on the boot menu
Step 6: let the usb do it's charm upon restart
Step 7: do all the steps, mint will hand hold you (10 min set up)
Done. That's it.
After that all you have to do is learn a bit about linux, commands and all that, otherwise, you can do it all through guis(translated to "moron", aka a visual interface, there is a tutorial for anything and everything)
Optional: do not encrypt your os with luk if you're retarded
ALLWAYS, do a time stamp or timeshift (mint will show you how)
DO NOT install 3rd party or flatpak software until you get familiar with linux.
If drivers gpu drivers fail, you have 2 options. One that is easy, one that is slightly harder but even a monkey can do it.
1 disable safeboot
Or
2 look on a tutorial on how to sign them with a custom pgp file.
Woila you just got linux mint, now you install steam (from the repository aka the app manager not from the internet) and you play around for a bit.
If not, watch a wine tutorial.
Congratulations, now stop acting like a bunch of pussies and learn how to use your own shit without handholding.
Linux CAN run most things as good as windows it WON'T run them as good as windows because you are bellow average in 80% of situations.
All I mentioned can be done in an hour if you're slow, a few more if mentally challanged.
No shame in looking commands online but check to see what they do.

>>723939962
Don't know. You can just use Ubuntu, Fedora or Debian with Cinnamon. Avoid fake distros. Avoid some random guy's config/dotfiles being distributed as a distro.

>>723937871
i don't do anything serious on a phone for this reason alone

if it was easier to recycle old phones into PCs it would rock

>>723940142
seeing omarchy recommended so often was really eye opening

>>723940142
Recommending fedora to someone that has issues with mint is allready like recommending a guy that can't swim without a vest to use his hands...
Unbuntu is a better option, mint is unbuntu just a bit more handholding.
Never used debian so I can't talk about it.
I did the mistake of starting with fedora, wich ironically enough, gave me enough ptsd to just make everything destruction proof for when I started with linux (and unlike fedora nothing crashed for me on mint besides something I myself did as a troglodyte at the time)

>>723940142
Pretty sure cinnamon is a possible default option for arch too.
Been meaning to check out budgie for a while too thinking on it.

>>723885104 (OP)
Amerizogs can't wrap their head around not everything being a consumer product.

>>723908340
Things work on Windows without any instructions.

>>723941909
Why does all windows software come with instructions then?

>>723920053
>posts the most brown meme on the site
You will never be white, Rajeet.