Thread 723888564

ocarina of time running at 120 fps

NINTENDO

>>723888564 (OP)
doesn't feel right above 20 fps

>>723888564 (OP)
it's just not cinematic anymore

Soulless

>>723888605
this but unironically, looks swimmy and soulless, you can tell the animations were made for a lower framerate

>>723888564 (OP)
But is your webm?

looks the same. the human eye can't see more than 20 fps

>>723888605
30 is already better and doesn't feel super smooth if that's not to your liking

>>723888694
yes

Its feels wrong and doesnt look right. The absolute most it should run at is 30fps.

>>723888564 (OP)
Looks alright but I'm used to playing almost every game at 240 fps now and can't go back

>>723888605
>16.6FPS because PAL

>>723888843
can you even tell the difference between 120 and 240? i can't with 180

>>723888727
bait used to be believable.

>>723888564 (OP)
>>723888605
just cranking up the framerate without any heed to the weighing of movement keyframes is going to look bad like this. 120fps oot could look be made to look like a straight improvement on the og but you'd need to make changes to add a bit more bias to certain points in the animations.

>>723888887
yeah just literally move your mouse or the windows around. its night and day difference once you double your hz.

>>723888908
looks the same to me just smoother, looks great

>>723888951
you're the type of zoomer that thinks those frame-interpolated tom and jerry clips look amazing

here is a 30 fps limited one

>>723888936
i have a 144 and a 180 monitor, looks the same for me on both

>>723889050
absolutely not, since there's a ton of artifacting trying to interpolate drawn images on a flat plane, even interpolating with nvidias frame gen has artifacting and that's in 3d with depth

>>723889050
Cope

>>723888564 (OP)
Is this the same interpolated framerate copium as in the pc port?

>>723889283
the image is not interpolated, the animations just internally don't limit to 20 fps, making zero artifacting. this is the pc port

Has anyone done an efficiency deep dive on the OoT and MM decomps? Kinda like what Kaze Emanuar does with SM64? I kind of want to know how far you can push the frame rate on original hardware.

KINO
Screen resolution and framerate should ALWAYS be as high as physically possible. No fucking detriment whatsoever to the original art direction, as a matter of fact it allows it to shine even more than the original hardware ever allowed, and we can appreciate the game much more.
Raising stuff like texture resolution (AI upscaling like most remasters like to do) or model polygon count, or adding post processing filters and whatever else is what makes something soulless. Nightdive are frauds.
The other end of this, with new trend of some indie games only allowing a max res of 640x480 is utterly baffling to me too. It adds absolutely nothing to the "retro" aesthetic.

20 fps

>>723889079
ips? oled?

>>723888605
It does feel a bit surreal, but it's still welcome.

>>723889401
based, but nightdive usually does a good job

>>723889432
ips

>>723889492
no wonder. even if the fastest ips is slower than a ps vita oled (2011)

>>723889539
perhaps, maybe in time when oled becomes affordable i'll switch

>>723888564 (OP)
this is 60 fps though

>>723889468
Breaks my heart. Even before the open world slop, Nintendo sure dragged their feet on sequels (Majora's Mask not withstanding). And the truly sick thing? NOBODY is interested in directly competing with Nintendo in this genre.
Beyond Good & Evil made one game and fucked off into vaporware.

>>723889680
no, it's 120 recorded into a 120 fps encoded webm

>>723888564 (OP)
I love PC gaming these days, with emulation and recomps/decomps.
OOT
MM
Mario 64
Jak 1+2(3 eventually)
Star Fox 64
Almost every emulatable game at 60 or 120fps(or higher if you slightly boost game render speed which makes games more fun AND smoother). Like this year I played Gravity Rush at 120fps and it was glorious. Some PS2 games look great at that frame rate too, and Zelda games at 60fps are nice.

>>723888564 (OP)
It looks weird, but still better than that UE5 shart.

>>723888564 (OP)
Have any of you tried MM's recomp? Ship is cool but it doesn't seem to have the analog camera movement that just werks and feels fantastic.

>>723889709
Some months ago i replayed the two first darksiders game. They are a decent way to cope with this dead genre.

>>723889765
I doubt such an outdated site as 4chan can even allow you to upload 120 fps webm

>>723889709
I wish the N64 Castlevania games were better. They felt the closest to OOT/MM in terms of atmosphere.

>>723889942
it sure didn't stop me

>>723889492
>usually does a good job
System Shock Enhanced, Blood Fresh Supply and Strife Veteran were ok, the changes are not that intrusive.
But looking at what they did to Dark Forces, Turok 3, or any of their recent remasters, made me puke my eyes out through my ass.
A source port, emulator or a patch from pcgamingwiki is still the definitive way to play most games that got the remaster treatment

>>723888564 (OP)
It really does feel a lot smoother and just having some basic AA dramatically improves the visual quality. It really makes you wonder wtf Nintendo is doing with all these re-releases as they totally suck ass compared to these recompiles. It's actually shocking /v/ is not more aware of them and suggests Nintendo fans do not play their games and only play what Nintendo tells them to.

>>723889986
oh that upscaling is ass, i guess they do good work on the 3d stuff

>>723889920
I've been meaning to play those. I guess I have no excuse not to now.

>>723889783
Don't forget Perfect Dark. I've been playing the decomp and it's still as good as I remember it.

>>723889958
Definitely. They feel like they have missed potential.

>>723890362
I've never been interested in that game myself.

>>723888564 (OP)
when can we get proper 3ds model ports for this shit? im tired of playing with lego models

>>723889401
>>723889783
These anons understand.

>>723890449
Why not? This and Goldeneye are Rare in top form. There's nothing else quite like their FPS games (except Timesplitters, I suppose).

Just quit after this game, Perfect Dark Zero is a dumpster fire.

>>723889492
>nightdive usually does a good jo
Hit or miss, sometimes it's excellent, sometimes it's okay, and sometimes they forget to put in 2/3 of the soundtrack.

>>723890362
I'm replaying it too, but i'm stuck in area 51 rescue. A guard is supposed to open you a door when you wear a disguise. But he won't appear.

>>723890815
IIRC, you need to visit that room last. If you don't take care of the other objectives he won't let you in because you'd fail the mission with them incomplete.

>>723890634
For me it's Jet Force Gemini and Conker. I like TPS.

>>723890982
Mmmm maybe it's what you say and i had yet to scan the alien. Thanks anon!

>>723891185
No problem. If you get stuck on the final level, keep an eye out for a rock you need to bomb. It's kind of annoying because the visual cue of a ladder behind it is very easy to miss, and it shares a texture with the area around it. I nearly looked up a guide but thankfully noticed last second.

>>723891161
JFG is one of my favorites. It got a bit tedious in places but I still mostly love it.

>>723891414
After PD i want to replay goldeneye. It's been ages since child me cleared aztec in 00 agent after a month. I want to take revenge.

waiting for twilight princess to be playable above 30fps pls

>>723892193
smooth motion or lossless scaling
though I gotta say there is a bit of ghosting in that game

>>723888605
>>723888681
>>723888669
It's just interpolated, no PC port decoupled the logic from the frame rate.

https://decomp.dev/zeldaret/tp this says it's 91% decompiled i hope it happens soon

>>723892425
I tried lossless in Dark Cloud 2, 30fps to 60.
It was bad, I think minimum you need native 60 to not look so smudgy.

>>723888605
I share the sentiment. Anything above 20 fps throws me off hard.

>>723892710
Its been at 91% for 4 years.

>>723888564 (OP)
gross

>>723893326
Really just depends on how much the camera is moving. Also you can get used to it and eventually brainwash yourself into thinking it's an upgrade. Generally true though.

>>723889783
>brain is used to playing Berserk PS2 at 30fps
>install 60fps patch
>use smooth motion to get 120fps
>game immediately looks modern and gorgeous as fuck
FUCK YEAH

>>723889079
Fantastic!

>>723888605
This. Also, DS1 blighttown just feels wrong at smooth 60 fps
>>723889415
perfection

>>723888564 (OP)
Gross

>>723892193
isn't the hd version 60

>>723896114
>>install 60fps patch
can you use this with retro achievements?

>>723888564 (OP)
...why?

>>723889415
SOVL

>>723899313
>retro achievements?
you disgust me

>>723888564 (OP)
I literally can't tell the difference between 60 and 120. It'd definitely feel better playing it but viewing it isn't as magical as going from 25 to 60.

>>723900482
same, i just get used to either 60 and 120 very quickly

>>723900482
you have to get used to it first then 60 looks bad

>>723900793
nta but i just don't get that, i can play a game with 144hz then switch to 60 and don't really care at all

>>723901042
Play the same game at 144 then switch it to 60

>>723900482
>>723901042
Have you tried using a montior that can do 120Hz+?

>>723900482
My screen, and perhaps yours is 60hz, of course no difference is perceptible.

>>723901282
yeah, no problem at all

>>723901320
my main monitor has 144, third monitor has 180. i'm not saying i can't see the difference, i just don't care as long as it's at 60 or more

>>723888564 (OP)
Anon the PC port is like 5 years old at this point

>>723901627
and yet people play at 20 fps

I don't get the obsession with frame rates

>>723888605
>>723888669
>>723888681
You people are so insane lmao. The only time I will ever tolerate low framerate is if it fucks up other things like snowfall speed in Silent Hill.

>>723901481
No it's 120hz can even drop it down to 90hz. No visual difference for my eyes, unless there's something my device does to fuck with the video.

>>723893326
thats why it's recd not to go above 50% frame gen

>>723902683
>bro is using the wrong cable
>bro did not change his window monitor settings
which is it bros

>>723900482
Honestly depends on the camera system the game uses. If you told me you still can't see the difference instantly in a first person game, I simply wouldn't believe you.
Games where the camera is usually stable and stationary like DMC3 or other action games, then all the movement on screen is in the character animations and aren't as noticeable unless you play that game a lot and pay close attention to the small details.

I'm posting it.
https://files.catbox.moe/gc7c5k.zip (OOT)
https://files.catbox.moe/cdud02.zip (MM 2ship)
https://files.catbox.moe/0bl8bv.zip (MM Recomp)
SOH was updated last night.
https://www.shipofharkinian.com/changelog#copper-alfa-9.1.0

>>723888564 (OP)
I DON'T LIKE IT

>>723903613
why would you link these instead of the git pages
this is a virus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>723903613
i just downloaded it again to make the op video and i noticed the menus are all different, very interesting

>>723888564 (OP)
disgusting

>>723904056
take a pic? I updated literally 2 days ago randomly and noticed it had changed them too kek

>>723904268
it no longer has the top menu bar

>>723904405
I see

Personally I'm just waiting for recomp, the MM was just so much better somehow. Sounds, looks, controls, it just feels perfect.

>>723904670
mm recomp felt a lot less bloated sure, but ship oot just has a giant amount of quality of life features which are nice

>>723904183
If pc ports were illegal Nintendo would have stopped them back in 2019 with mario.

Last Guardian, running at 15 fps, as Fumito Ueda intended.

>>723904785
Eh? Recomp has more "bloat" with all those mods doesn't it? It's just better made overall.

>>723905302
what i mean is option overload, at least when i played it recomp had basically just the masks on dpad, the autosaving, gyro aiming, but ship has like a thousand different checkboxes

>>723905482
it's got way more now
https://thunderstore.io/c/zelda-64-recompiled/

This shit would probably give me a headache and/or nausea. The lower frame rate looks snappy and full of character. It's like the difference between drinking fine wine and eating fine cheeses and meats. Some people can appreciate that and others just want their slop.

>Minish cap at 100%
>No pc port
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE HOLDUP

>>723905869
tendies are mentally retarded holy fuck

>>723888564 (OP)

O...kay? And?

Framegen faggotry kys

>>723907684
this is as much frame gen as raising fps_max in the console in half life 2

>>723906097
Same with Banjo Kazooie. They're actively targeting and bullying people who are trying to make a PC port from the discord.

>>723905869
unhinged

>>723888605
>>723888646
>>723888669
>>723888681
>tendies are finally realizing

>>723909702
>fossil thinks engagement bots are people
Get back to Facebook unc

>>723888605
spbp /thread
the animations were made for 20fps

>>723909976
everyone animates with keyframes, it doesn't matter. they get interpolated in oot at 20 fps too

does the oot pc port include master quest?

>>723910714
sure

>>723889994
needs more doujins of her(him).

does this shit have retroachievements support?

>>723911102
i don't think so

>>723911102
Kill yourself, faggot.

reminder

>>723903613
im playing latest ship with reloaded textures but honestly I feel like recompiled majora is way smoother to play because it allows for some extensive modding from third party users meanwhile ship took years to have basic mods function with it which is retarded

ship is more built for autistic schizo speedrunners and randomizers, it even has shit like "make a stupid ass grey arrow appear at the center of the screen so I can autistically aim this glitch better"

>>723888564 (OP)
soulless

>>723911754
>i'm schizophrenic and demand respect

>>723911669
relax, the trannies are destroying that shit don't worry

>>723889373
Mario 64 was the way it was because it was very early day and they were making the game before developer kits and the documentation were finalized. I don't think there is much performance to squeeze out of OoT.

>>723911959
kaze can run his mario 64 rom hack at 60 fps on console, there's no way ocarina in 98 was optimized well enough

>>723888564 (OP)
On mobile it plays this in slow motion lol

>>723912154
If similar gains were possible with OoT he would have made that video already. He got over 3m views on the optimizing SM64 video.

>>723911807
Ship allegedly got support for streamed audio (i.e. inserting MP3s) in its latest update but it's tied to an unfinished external application with zero documentation.
I pray that Recomp delivers on its attempt to become more mod-friendly, because SOH/Harbor Masters isn't even fucking trying anymore.

>>723912491
i don't think he's that interested in oot, he's made very very little content around it. his autism is all around mario 64

>>723899236
It isn't

>>723912885
surprising actually, and dolphin can't run it at 60? other games seem to fine

>>723911959
Nintendo's goal was to ship out blockbuster games on their own platform with a certain level of quality. I highly doubt they were maximising performance gains when developing MM, a game arguably released in the latter end of the N64's lifecycle. It still had 20fps, like OoT. Some crazy autists managed to get an RE2 port working on it via unconventional means.

>>723912154
*48fps at good render distances
Which is honestly pretty good performance gains.

>>723912698
He has made content for Zelda romhacks though

>>723910414
The artistic intent was a stable 20fps buddy

>>723913024
You can't just increase the frame rate on a game where physics and animations are tied to it, it will either literally double the speed the entire game runs at or break various things

>>723913069
yes, but it clearly isn't even a minor content part on his channel

>>723913118
i've done it in many games and it works mostly fine, with some cheat codes it usually fixes rest of the bugs

>>723913189
You have no idea what you are talking about retard

The bots are here.

>>723913238
i accept your concession

>>723888605
>>723888646
>>723888669
>>723888681
So this is the console cope

>>723888605
You get used to it, after a while going back to 20fps is so jarring

>>723888564 (OP)
anything above 60 is mental illness.

>>723902661
?

>>723888605
Not only on that game, I played some online action games including shooters, yes who decided to revamp their graphics engine to run past 30~ish frames and it looks like the animations are playing twice as fast

>>723913069
It's just a assembly challenge for him

>>723905035
shadmanps4 is a bloodborne machine, you are a fool to try and do anything else on it currently

>>723912154
Kaze can make SM64 run at 60 fps because he has an unlimited amount of time and no budget. Yeah he could probably also get OOT to 60fps, if given enough time. But back in the day these were commercial games that had to come out at a reasonable time.
Its why they left the debug mode on SM64, they simply didn't have enough time to test with it off.

>>723912154
Would you imagine how many emulators would be rendered obsolete if there were more balls to the wall autists like Kaze?

>>723916364
We don't even need kaze tier autists, people autistic enough to just use recomp tools at this point would be enough.

>>723917128
mods will be great, hopefully

>>723888605
I like it except the backflips. At the original fps those always had this feeling of speed and force if that makes sense. It's a little too graceful at this framerate. I'm interested in seeing what some of the other animations look like, particularly the climbing ones. When I was a kid I was obsessed with learning Link's moves and tried to imitate his roll and ledge climb in particular by taking videos with a camera and going frame by frame.

>>723919163
Thanks Anon. Spent a lot of time back in the day trying to recreate that feat. Got really good at the shoulder roll breakfall though. And I just remembered that I default to sidestroke in the water to this day lel.

>>723919591
zelda parkour?

Ocarina of Time is overrated.

>>723917128
If and big if they get released because apparently "finishing touches" means "roughly the same time as manually doing things by myself"
Don't get me wrong, I wanted to help but I ain't getting tricked into doing most of the work to then give grace to someone who will be getting all the glory for doing less work that me

>>723920746
Sincerely yeah. Around the time I realized that climbing method isn't actually feasible, I discovered the parkour climbs/muscle ups and started fucking around my house and hometown. It was at that mid 2000s parkour internet boom as well, so it was easy to convince my friends to join me in scaling things and jumping off of them.

>>723921726
I mean the guy who did the goemon recomp gets all the credit for that one, and he did it himself. These just require a certain flavor of autism for you to sit down and do.

>>723888564 (OP)
>running a 30yo game at a frame rate that was normal 10 years ago is considered some kind of noteworthy event.
Did you know you can play quake 2 with ray tracing at 40-60fps now as well? Yeah, better change your soaking wet panties after that, ywnbaw

>>723888564 (OP)
Excellent, now all we need is a photorealistic texture pack and the game will be perfect.

>>723888564 (OP)
Holy soulless

>>723921938
120 fps was absolutely not normal 10 years ago, but the real reason i only recorded it at 120 is because obs doesn't go any higher

Same energy. Total slop.
OoT animations were designed with its limitations in mind. This looks floaty and weightless.
Also the slowdown that occurs when you hit Ganondorf with a light arrow is kino

>>723922252
bait

>>723922245
Yes it was. Every CRT would do 75hz+ in the 90s kid. Which is what everyone used in all the shooters of the time.
My 120hz monitor is from like the 2010s, not everyone was a poor fag.

>>723924139
i used a crt up until about 2006 yeah. but high refresh lcd monitors are quite recent

>>723888564 (OP)
interpolated*
Ship of Harinian does not run the game at a higher FPS due to game logic issues they can't fix, it's real time interpolation

>>723924456
but it's not image interpolation, no image artifacts. like any other game out there, it interpolates animations

>>723888564 (OP)
I don't like it
>>723889079
This is fine
>>723889415
It's been a long time, has it always been this choppy?
I got a wared Wii right behind me, how does the emulation on that compare to the original?
Next thing I want to play is RE2: Gamecube edition, I have only played the N64 and pc versions.

>>723924793
>It's been a long time, has it always been this choppy?
yes, and pal runs at 16 fps

>>723888605
well yeah, it was designed around being 20 fps

>>723924638
>It doesn't interpolate, it interpolates!

>>723888564 (OP)
Saria > Malon > Fish > Nabooru > Zelda

>>723924957
yes, like any other old or modern game you play even today

>>723924979
But Anon, Saria will never age!

>>723924827
>pal runs at 16
post it

>>723917128
Anon, I'm not sure that static recomp tool is the way, from my perspective if a game port requires better specs instead of being optimized to run in a PC with lesser specs that the ones used to develop it then it will eventually lead to AAA-tier of bloatware, like how there are RPGmakers game which run worse than current denuvo spyware despite being less impressive that SNES games graphic-wise.

>>723925664
handbrake only supports 15, close enough. this is what i grew up with.
i think it slows the game down too, can't replicate that here

>>723888864
reminds me of games like ff7 running at 15 fps in battles while the menu somehow runs at 60
and then every port after ps1 fucked it up and has the menus run at 15 fps too

>>723925952
Too much soovvvvllllll....
And I thought playing it at like 10 fps on that old pc was bad.

>>723913024
its a mixed bag when it comes to frame patches and emu overclocking.
Some can handle an unlocked framerate just fine, but they are very rare.
Otherwise you have to roll the dice with patches, hope your game has one and that it doesn't have too many side effects.

>>723926132
>menu somehow runs at 60
>single color with text and some images
>battles use models with higher poly count
Anon... I have bad news, you might be retarded

>>723926481
can you show me another game where menu framerate is not tied to the game running at the same time?

>>723925664
>>723926190
here's a more accurate one

>>723925286
Works for Link with the whole constantly being sent back in time thing

>>723888564 (OP)
is it running at 120fps or is it just being interpolated to 120fps?

the latter is better since the game still performs the same as original.

imagine how much better it would be at 5 fps

>>723926586
this is really common anon... there are even modern games that run at 30fps but run at 60fps on the menus...

>>723927559
interpolated, but not on the image buffer

>>723926481
But those polygons are on the screen at the same time as the menu thoughever.

>>723927623
i think you dont actually know what im talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgcsK7GScHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euWOS83pC5g
compare these

>>723927790
I'm not disagreeing that the modern ports fucked it up. I'm saying that menu framerates running faster is common even today.

>>723927842
show me a single example im actually curious because the ps1 ff games ports cocking it up are the only ones to bring it to my attention

>>723927921
There's far too many examples to the point I can't really give one. I mean I think resident evil 1 or 2 does it?

>>723928214
thats fucking different though because its not rendering the fucking battle at the same time you disingenuous NIGGER

>>723927631
>>723927559
Whatever it is, it looks and feels good. Though for some reason recomp feels better than decomp.

>>723928280
wait do you mean the menu is running at 60 fps and the battle is running at 15 fps at the same time? that makes no sense... and doesn't happen...

>>723928352
but it does happen in the posted videos if you werent pretending to be retarded for (yous)

>>723888564 (OP)
why do threads like this get 100 of replies but botw threads die instantly?

>>723928389
anon multiple framerates don't happen

>>723928406
>guuuuuuuys it's time to talk about other game!!!
Slit your wrists, engagement bot.

>>723928406
same bait posts

>>723913189
>it works mostly fine
sure, its playable. is it a good experience if you care about anything else? not really.
physics puzzles (relied on heavily in TP) mess up, cutscenes desynchronize and visual effects like wind and twilight particles double their speed and look jarring.

>>723928406
Botw/totk have the most posts of any game not named elden ring.

any good romhacks/mods for this yet or is it just zelda 64??????

what the fuck is the point? The human eye can't detect anything above about 60FPS anyway. you trying to give a better experience to the bugs flying around in your bedroom?

I just beat the Goemon PC port, and it was great. I don't know why the hell that game got a working PC port faster than more popular games though. Banjo has been complete for a while but there is still no PC port.

>>723929078
Paper Mario had a decomp for years but the team which did it is just sitting on it, they could've just keep it a secret if it was only to help with speedrunning

>>723928965
I don't know about that, but my reaction time certainly isn't 120th of a second.

>>723929078
I played that game a bunch when I was a kid but I never really liked it. I don't see why it would get a PC port either lol.

What really annoys me is that there aren't more decomps and ports for actually cool games that could be amazing to mod or use as a platform for new games. Like an MGS or some kind of turn based RPG.

>>723928851
That seems to be a different project, to decomp romhacks so they could be added to the recomp as mods
A mod where you fuck the girls for the 7 years that Link remains in the sacred realm never ever, I doubt even ATF will try

>>723928586
dont count posts like these >>723927292 and it drops to 0

>>723929362
The game itself wasn't that great, especially how much the game expects you to talk specific people in a specific order with little direction. Cool to see the game running at high FPS tho.

>>723929362
Isn't there a quest 64 recomp on the way? sadly no Mega Man Legends recomp or Vigilante 8
But there's smash, even if you hate the base game it could be turned into a 3D M.U.G.E.N. or a platformer engine, or into a mini game engine that would rival Mario Party by backporting features from other smash games It would be really interesting to see that game pushed to it's absolute limit

>>723908185
Aaah, so it is trannies ruining the party for everyone, got it thanks.

>>723929760
>Isn't there a quest 64 recomp on the way?
Yeah. I know there are a bunch of wips but none of them are cool PS games or whatever you know? Jak was nice but I'd really love something with more meat to it.

>>723911102
No
Go play Transball, it has achievements

>>723888564 (OP)
Doing that just gives it the video game equivalent of the dreaded "soap opera effect" when a TV is showing movies any higher than 23.97 frames a second.

>>723926481
man, fucking f-zero, the 3D game on the fucking SNES ran at 60fps

>>723930637
which is great, we're just used to the 24 fps cost cutting sloppa

>>723931736
Higher frame rates for films look trashy, but for video games I can see their usefulness.

>>723909702
>>723913351
Low framerate can work if the frametime is perfect. In OOT it is, and increasing the framerate just feels wrong. Seeing it at 60 and up just looks uncanny.

>>723888564 (OP)
Don’t think that matters bro. Please stop.

>>723889415
perfect

>>723932294
the only reason it looks trashy (for you) is because you're used to it
the hobbit and avatar at high frame rate is amazing to see, you get used to it within minutes, then watching 24 fps is choppy as fuck

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>>723932441
Anon, films generally aren't supposed to go higher than 24. They're supposed to be that way.
Those extra frames aren't even real, they're guesses. It's make for uncanny valley the entire time.

>>723889146
Arrest

>>723932653
they're 24 because we're used to it, it was only a cost cutting measure to begin with.
yes, interpolation in movies is bad. but hobbit/avatar is filmed with a high frame rate, so there's no artifacting

it makes for*
But don't get me wrong, for video games-new ones-it's valid, but watching The Wizard of Oz (1939) higher than 23.97 (as close as video can get to 24) frames looks doofy.

>>723932713
>but hobbit/avatar is filmed with a high frame rate, so there's no artifacting

I appreciate the education there anon. Interesting.

>>723932872
in a perfect world we would have increased frame rates a long while ago, it's just nicer for the eyes. action scenes look so much better at high frame rates, you literally see more things going on. but the shitty interpolation that modern tvs do is not the solution

>>723900482
I thought so too but a few months ago I installed a new graphics card and went to play TF2 and thought to myself "wow this game should not stutter this badly on this card"
long story short windows was at 60hz

https://youtu.be/i82xURPkLWo?t=6
incredibly mediocre movie but at 60 fps it just looks amazing visually

>>723933236
>>723932713
movies look fucking bad above 24fps
you are WRONG

24 fps hides the fact they can't act

>>723932948
I find myself agreeing with you, but for previously existing material I'm just set in my ways and want to watch Flash Gordon (1980) as it was exactly, but video games and new movies and shows, sure I'm all in. I tried it with sports, but again, set in my ways.
My TV has an option to turn on or off and I use it sometimes.

>>723933438
agree, i never turn interpolation on. it just can't do it properly (yet)

>>723933497
>it just can't do it properly (yet)
Once that problem is solved, it'll be a boon for damaged films and maybe some video games too, who knows.

>>723932952
The cold reality is that in games the highest refresh rates give you more time to react. Going from sub 60 to over 120 literally doubles your time to react to the images you see.
This is just reality. Thats the reason smooth brans goon over a billion fps.
The funny part is they use upscaling garbage like DLSS and frame gen to get it, which fucking ruins any benefit youd gain buy making the image you see inaccurate because its stretched like your whore sisters gash at a frat party and every other frame you see is copy/pasted fake insert not displaying the image you need to see
TLDR: stay mad poor fags

>>723934210
does 8ms really give you that much of an advantage though, considering most people have reflexes between 150-250ms?

>>723934398
yes
it's not about reaction times it's about the FEELING

the more information you have the more saturated your brain becomes

the more saturated your brain is the more immersed and invested and informed you are about the QUEST

>>723899313
Been playing KHFM with a 60 fps patch on NetherSX2 and RA works fine with it enabled.

>>723934398
8ms is tons of time to guys like me. It's the difference between beating "Mike Tyson's Punch Out!!" or not.

>>723935367
that's crazy. i have reaction times of like 250ms