Thread 723911278

Imagine a Kowloon city builder where you have to stack shit. Like SimTower, only 3D.

>>723911278 (OP)
There's some horror game set in kowloon city. I saw some youtuber that ripped off grimbeard's style cover it.

Any game "inspired" by Ghost in The Shell already did this.

Also COD also already did this.

>>723911345
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2094910/Pile_Up/

>>723911278 (OP)
Would make a good setting for a dungeon crawler set in a modern dystopia rather than a fantasy setting.

SaGa Frontier has a world based on Kowloon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okk_gwItlHI

>>723911278 (OP)
Normalfags don't give a fuck to actually completing games, only 14-18% of the consumers actually play games to completion.

Every yellow paint, every invisible box, every tutorial, every radio buddy, all this cancer is not because "the normies can't deal with it".
It is because the story writer is fucking pissed off that no one want to see "their entire masterpiece", so they whine and scream and demand that the gamers need to be forced to play the game as a whole, no matter the costs.

>>723911278 (OP)
It's a location in Shenmue 2, zoomie

>>723911278 (OP)
some bits in sleeping dogs do give that feel, like the night market and your shitty apartment

>>723911278 (OP)
ParanormalHK and Welcome to Kowloon are both trashy, but they got around it by just having a linear-ish path of alleys and apartments you could go into.
I really want something that leaves the entire area + some apartments open for you to explore, maybe a delivery game or something

>>723911727
>only 14-18% of the consumers actually play games to completion.
it's more like 20% usually
but that's purely for the main story/campaign stuff, dlc or side quests? you quickly dive below 10% finishing those

>>723911657
That game had far too much Kino than it could handle.

>>723911738
Only like twelve of us know that.

>>723911278 (OP)
Wrong! Kowloon inspired a fuckton of videogames.

Why is there a blobber and/or roguelike that takes place here?

>>723911278 (OP)
looks like some roguelike setting

>>723911278 (OP)
SplitterHead was only last year OP

Shadowrun Hong Kong had it

>>723911278 (OP)
It still blows my mind that Kowloon existed. It seems to me like the more people you pack into a single place the worse it becomes, so that place must have been total hell.

isn't that just samosbor but asian

>>723913987
I've always wondered why people stay there and not just go inna woods or something.

>>723911738
Kowloon in Shenmue 2 is nothing like Kowloon Walled City.

>>723911738
Wtf I want to skip ahead to Shenmue 2 now.
>t. Plays Shenmue for an hour once a month

>>723914176
Its Hong Kong you gormless gweilo.

>>723914176
Because rent and electricity were basically free. Nobody was going to bother evicting you there.

>>723911278 (OP)
Rainworld feels like this times a hundred and minus the people

>>723914202
It gets the general aesthetic down, especially the building interiors.

>>723911278 (OP)
>people who lived there remember it fondly
makes ya think

Golem City in DXMD is basically sci-fi Kowloon

>>723914202
It's a game from 2001, do you expect 1:1 recreation? It's a depressing chinese location with interconnected tall buildings

>>723915134
thats just nostalgia goggles

>>723913758
S O V L
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>>723915207
>be given a place with running water (even if it had to be boiled), heat, and electricity for free
Most modern people would kill for that.

>>723915207
You have no frame of reference for making that judgement.

>>723915347
it's very easy to get comfy and forget past hardships. the closest we will ever get to experiencing kowloon is that documentary made by a german autist in the 80s

>>723911278 (OP)
>never
We had one in Guild Wars

>>723913758
There was a game with a similar artstyle to this but you play as a girl. I think it was a shooter. Do you know the name?

*because developers can charge more per square foot building detached single family tinderboxes

>>723915726
Peripeteia?

>>723912884
What?
We were fifteen last year.

>>723915953
Based. That's it. Thanks.

>>723915518
i loved watching the poopfalls

>>723914889
Was gonna say this, the part of the Factions map in Kaineng City is exactly the kind of bullshit garbage design as Kowloon was.

>>723916037
One of the devs used to be known as Kowloon anon because he devved a source mod set in a Chinese megastructure.

>>723911278 (OP)
It's called Kowloon's Gate.

A video game could not capture the raw essence of kowloon, especially not a modern one on ue5.

>>723917657
This is the only other screenshot I could find of it. I'm not sure if there's any others remaining online outside thumbnails in 8/agdg/ thread archives.

>>723911727
In fact, all these cancers are the fault of the playtest culture.
There is that famous example from Valve where game designers simplified the map because a retarded girl who doesn't even like games got lost for hours in a fork because she always took the wrong path.
Game devs aren't creating games, they're creating interactive experiences that are retard-proof because they want to sell them to as many human beings as possible. The yellow paint is probably a scientific way they found to make playtesters (mostly people who have no interest in and don't buy video games) more likely to pass the levels without getting bored.

In short: game devs don't know how to make games and think that what they do needs to be idiot-proof.

>>723911417
Dungeon Chill

>>723911278 (OP)
Why does it look like someone placed random road types down in a city builder

>>723918365
B.C. Piezophile will solve this.

I really wish this place was still around but you'd probably get tons of YouTubers in there.

>>723918365
Which stems from liberal universalism, which demands everything be for everyone and prevents game developers from thinking "I want to make a game for x type of person and no one else" like the japanese manga industry which is stratified into genres like shonen, seinen, and so on and doesn't have to be limited to the lowest common denominator. Same reason we can't have games with tits, it has to be palatable to literally everyone.

>>723919618
somali would have not made it out of there and then no one would go.

How would you make a map for this? It would need to be 3 dimentional.

>>723919979
Zelda dungeons have had this layout since the snes.

>>723917657
>>723917949
Cool. I don't think I'm tricking myself when I say I see the similarities between these and >>723915953. It's amazing how these areas have such appeal even though (speaking as a city dweller) they can be intolerable in real life. I suppose it's the man-made equivalent of a mountain range or some other extreme in nature: vast, overwhelming, interesting to visit (even through the medium of a video game), but hell to live in.

how it didnt crumble on itself is the true question
stacking floor after floor after floor with minimun regulation is a call for collapse an d yet, nothing

>>723920117
It's not that deep, there is a universal appeal to having very close neighbors that are the same race as you.

>>723911727
Honestly I believe this, with how prevalent unskippable cutscenes and unskippable dialogue still are in 2025

>>723920420
I meant in the context of these games, exploration, that sort of thing. In real life living next to that many people of any kind is terrible, I can tell you now.

>>723914690
Great location.
Wish the entire game took place there

Dogtown in 2077.

>>723911278 (OP)
>i'm very special NORMALFAGS wouldn't like my idea
>literally already done in cod of all things

>>723911417
Funny you say that because I assumed it was Grimbeard when I came into this thread

I do like Dungeon Chill too though

>>723911278 (OP)
Retards be like:
>holy sovl I hecking love capitalism!

>>723911278 (OP)
This is the world that urbanists want

>>723911278 (OP)
More like loading zones.

>>723919847
Yes, but From Software games break a lot of these taboos and are still mainstream.
So the playtest culture, where developers watch people who don't like games and won't buy games (this part is important) and base level and mechanic on them, is a big mistake. They assume that if they can please even those who don't like games, they will have a product with bigger sales potential, but this is just an illusion.

>>723920117
If you're in a city, you don't get to explore them that much. Most of your exploration is limited to the ground level, and even in buildings with public fronts you often gotta at least pretend you're shopping.

>>723911727
lol that's not the reason why.
Now that game publishers are owned and funded by huge firms, they want people to experience the whole game so they can absorb as much propaganda as possible.
Writers don't have a single shred of power in the industry, in fact they are quite loathed.

Shadowrun: Hong Kong

>>723911278 (OP)
NOOOO you can't just live cooperatively in an improvised megastructure without government or taxes!

>>723917657
>>723919979
>>723920420

The real Hong Kong is pretty still like this for alot of buildings. It's just that Walled City was a extreme example of lawlessness and density. Go to older areas like Mong Kok or Kwun Tong and you'll find plenty of hyperdense amalgations of housing and commercial centres.

>>723921817
>>723920117

You can also go into alot of these buildings in Hong Kong (or Asia) in general. It's actually quite interesting sometimes to find all manner of small pop shops hidden in the upper floors of commercial centres. Locking everything public to the ground level is more of a unique feature of Western cities.

>>723915953
Is this game worth playing? I don't like the anime girl protag but everything else looks fun.

>>723924190
>It's actually quite interesting sometimes to find all manner of small pop shops hidden in the upper floors of commercial centres

>>723924209
its pure yank, so be prepared to get frustrated. still, it's a decent immsim

>>723911727
I kinda don't get why the number is so low. I don't finish every game, occasionally when I leave something for too long I forget what I was doing, but I finish most things I start. Maybe I skip side content if it overstayed it's welcome.

>>723922505
The favela is the ideal anarchist society. This is why Peripeteia 2 must be set in an alternate universe Brazil with gigafavelas and retarded makeshift third world cyborgs instead of trannies.

>>723924352
What would you say the biggest spank issues are? I can tolerate STALKER and didn't find it to be too annoying.

>>723924683
in fairness, I only played the peripeteia demo about a year ago, but it was 5-10 times as yank as vanilla stalker

>>723924353
Most people don't have hours over hours to spend with games.
They just want to feel the mechanics a bit, have some fun and then go out and touch grass, or go back into being a phone zombie.
This is why GTA sells so much, it's excelent at just providing a short, novel experience every time you play it a bit.

>>723919979
I have that book, it's fucking huuuuuuuuuge. That spread is across 8 pages

>>723925008
Noted. Might buy it during the Winter sale as I can't find anywhere to get it for free. $25 seems way too high.

>>723911278 (OP)
You didn't play shenmue 2 i see.

>>723925574
The demo is worth fucking around in. It only has one level, but the thing is so fucking massive that you can explore it for hours. The last time I booted the game up, I thought I'd seen everything in that level ages ago, but I still ended up finding a shortcut walkway I had no idea existed and parkoured my way down to the church in the drain from the outside.

>>723911278 (OP)
Kowloon city reminds of that ancient city from yemen(Shibam) which is still arround

>>723911278 (OP)
I have never seen a least attractive setting. You're right OP, normies like me would hate that.

>>723913758
I hate platformers (because I suck at them) but I found Stray to be insulting with its designated jump spots and magnetic jumps

>>723928021
Designated jump spots and magnetic jumps is the least cat gameplay mechanic imaginable. A key part of the cat experience is taking ludicrous jumps and either making them against all odds or fucking up horribly and hilariously.

>>723924353
I dont finish most games, I start out trying to do all side content and I end up bored by 70%
and I've found the endings are never really satisfying, basically ever. the writing is never good enough
I just looked at steam and I haven't finished a single one of these and that's just this year.
>Stalker 2
>Stellar blade
>Dead Space
>Baulders Gate 3
>RoboCop
>E33
>The Alters
>Elden Ring
>kcd:II
but I mostly just play sandbox games, I have like 400 hours in factorio/bannerlord/kenshi etc.

>>723911278 (OP)
There's actually a ton of kowloon style old japanese games. Most of them are dungeon crawlers for some reason

>>723911278 (OP)
yes, i have wanted this for so long. a massive sprawlling citymaze, no in game markers/arrows, rare to see the outside, verticality

>>723925125
Name of the book?

Did anyone ever play the Kowloon Walled City Adventure game? I tried to find it a few years back, but couldn't track it down. Some of the other games on picrel are pretty obscure too.

>>723911278 (OP)
The Observer felt like Kowloon City but in Poland