Thread 723924272

The verdict is in: Ninja Gaiden 4 is an ABSOLUTE alright game

Best Platinum game since Bayo 1
Best Team Ninja game since NG2

I'm dead serious

>>723924272 (OP)

I watched a stream and it looked really boring and repetive. Every environment looked the same as the last one.

>>723924703
But enough about Dark Souls 3!

>>723924702
>Best Team Ninja game since NG2
I heard people liked Nioh

Is this game long as fuck or what? Holy shit that mountain section lasted forever

>>723924702
>Pic
Edit in some red eyes and a button prompt to open Tyran's menu

I think Yakumo's gameplay is more fun than Ryu's anons...

>>723925148
I haven't played enough of NG4 to get to Ryu. What does Ryu even have, when Yakumo seems to have flying swallow, izuna drop and so forth? No bloodraven?

>paid 50 USD for Ninja Gaiden Black
>paid 60 USD for Ninja Gaiden 2
>skipped 3/RE
>debating paying 70 USD for Ninja Gaiden 4
fugg

>>723925197
Ryu just hits like a truck, he is way more powerful than Yakumo to make up for his smaller kit

>pick hard to start
>worryingly easy
>get to that big arena with like 15 enemies
>then the boss
>mfw
It's taking a bit to get used to but damn this game has my blood pumping

>>723925371
yeah, it's been like 15 years since I played NG2, so I just chose to play on normal to start with. Rooms with multiple enemies taking some time to get used to again, since I feel like I'm getting out of left field constantly.

>>723925280

Just wait for it to be on sale, it's not worth 70 bucks.

>>723925065

Is mostly awful pacing and horrible level design, also enemies feel like Bayonetta rejects.

>>723925197
Ryu is stronger and Bloodraven is replace with “Gleam Blade” honestly it’s sick now that I’m playing as him I’m realizing I wasn’t using Bloodraven and Berserk enough as Yakumo, really just as a oh shit button but not constantly.

For those who CAN NOT REDEEEEEEEM the pre-order skin, try quitting the game and restarting Steam/console, it worked for me

>>723924702
You haven't played a Platinum game since Bayo 1?
You have some catching up to do.

>45yo boomer
>Got the platinum in some of the devil may cry games and bayonettas
>First time playing a ninja gaiden game and I feel like my ass is being rammed in the first chapter with the insanely short reaction windows, end it with C rank after dozen deaths to the boss
>at chapter 2 something finally clicks and I go around cubstomp every fucking shitter and finish ch 2 and 3 with A rank
>Bosses feel more like patience tests to not overextend and use bloodraven when prompted
>Feel much harder than the above mentioned games

I thought I was rusty, but the game is pretty good. The camera is horseshit and I hated the lock on system, but it's still pretty fun. In comparison to dmc, you just need to be turbo agressive since it's extremely hard to not get hit in this game.
Blocking feels shit considering you can just parry and do more damage. I still need some tips with combos, I'm just using light attack sequences and that blooraven AOE attack with yakumo using the sword as a pole.

>>723925371
I've played so much at this point I'm literally starting to get worse, Iiterally had to take a break to process the game a bit, it's quite intense with all the shit going on

>>723924272 (OP)
Beware thread is full of bots and mini-influencers desperate to make the game not fail for whatever reason.

Game is crappier than NG2, NG2 was already fucking garbage tier.

>>723924272 (OP)
I pirated it. Its fun, combat is nice. I will complete it on hard, then maybe master ninja after.

>>723926250
>NG2 was already fucking garbage tier.
opinion immediately disregarded

>>723926250
>>723926320
Game is balanced arount UT and Execution, you are constantly breaking the gameplay flow , enemies are sponges and the game throws you a bunch of randomass safe (not humans) enemies in the arenas. Oh yeah because the game is basically doom 2016

>corridor
>arena
>corridor
>arena

A pisspoor experience that no one bought and neither should you.

once again beware.

>>723924272 (OP)
1 > 4 > 2 > 3

>>723926739
Take your meds, schizo. You've been at it all year. I hope things get better for you.

>>723924272 (OP)
I have getting my ass kicked fatigue

I just realized the red part of your health bar will regenerate on it's own if you don't get hit, it's not like bloodborne.

>>723925985
>You haven't played a Platinum game since Bayo 1?
I've played most of them.
Bayo 2 and 3 were ok, but inferior to Bayo 1
MGR and Vanquish are alright, but gameplay is too barebones and simplistic
Transformation Devastation is really cool but really needed a higher production
I tried to give Wonderful 101 a chance, but the camera and gameplay just does not click for me.
Astral Chain I haven't played admittedly.

Honestly NG4 feels like the game I've waited on Platinum to make since Bayo 1 set the bar for the studio

>>723926739
>Game is balanced arount UT and Execution,
Lmao no, its based around parries, UT's will get you killed.

>>723924272 (OP)
2nd fav in the series.
First is black.

>>723926739
>making things up nonstop
The absolute state of this board. You're miserable.

Would this be an ok game to start with to get into NG? I'm super close to buying it and am very tempted.

Fellas be honest.
Are ryu's muscle achievable natty?

>>723925280

It will be on sale for 5 dollars by Christmas.

>>723927239
yes they ignore the events of 3 entirely and make a new inciting incident
Ryu is more of a guest to the story

>>723927197
1st favorite in the series.
Second is black.

>>723927239
Its honestly so different from the other 3 that I would say yes.

>>723927239

Play Ninja Gaiden Black (Xbox) or don't play any of these. Xbox emulation is not that hard.

>>723927239
Yes, but be warned that the beginning is probably the weakest part of the game because it showers you with tutorials and you have a very limited toolkit at first

>>723927101
30 minutes. Also my opinion.
>I hope things get better for you.
Thanks i appreciate but the gaming industry not getting raped is more than enough atm.

>>723927239
The story in this series doesn't matter at all. This is the second best game in the series.

>>723927302
Based, either way theyre fantastic games so we're all winning.

>>723927357
All year long. 30 minutes now. You know what you're doing. Unless you lack self-awareness and never have moments of lucidity. Lots of those crazies on here as well.

>>723927239
Ninja gaiden black is like 5 bucks in the xbox store. you are not black right? you have a series S/X and not a ps5 right?

>>723927379
Hell yeah bro

>>723927239
Sure go ahead. Continuity and story isn't important in these games and they all play a bit different despite the combat staying relatively the same

How hard is this game? Will Master Ninja fuck my shit up?

>>723927472
Extremely hard. I turned it down to normal around chapter 3.

>>723927472
Very hard. Much harder than NG1 and 2.

>>723927472
MN wasn't much different to hard for me. I got less deaths and items used overall.
Final boss is still a bastard.

I sometimes trigger instant charged ultimate attacks without having a clue why

reposting from last thread, some anon discovered jump cancel flying swallow
https://youtu.be/Wii63bnzGbA

>>723926739
You haven't even played the game faggot

whoever decided block should be on R2 by default is retarded

The framedrop on the staircase in NG2 is actually kino. It doesn't really feel stuttery, it just goes slow motion.

>>723927556
You're absorbing the red orbs enemies are dropping.

>>723927239
Probably the best game to start with the series. It does feel very different from previous NG games though.

So what is the combat flowstatethis time? Am I supposed to be going for delimbs? When do I slip in Bloodraven besides to break power attacks? It doesn't feel like an UT game for like the first time ever

>>723927610
>control preset B chads rise up

>>723927453
Notice the language

>>723927193
>Lmao no, its based around parries, UT's will get you killed.
Are you shills even allowed to play the game? The tankiest mofos ever + like 12 mobs coming at you at a time. It's literally made for execution and UT. Poorly designed, wouldn't even be surprised if they hotfix it like they did with NG2

>>723927472
I've beaten all NG games on master ninja, currently playing NG4 on hard and it's a decent challenge so far, master ninja is definitely going to kick my ass i can just tell.

jump heavy is the most worthless move in the game, I wish I could turn it off.
>accidentally press heavy after jumping
>stuck in 2 hours of recovery and I die
very cool yakumo

>>723927670
As Yakumo? Delimb and OT with bloodraven moves.

As Ryu? rape whole screens with gleam moves until berserk is charged then finish them off with berserk end, vergil style.

>>723927670
I would say don't be shy about using bloodraven, bursting down tougher enemies, the mobility moves and projectiles, you'll get comfortable with all of it.

>>723927670
Charge ut, execute, Charte UT execute, Armor break if you didn't press Y otherwise dodge.

Corridor
Arena

Charge ut, execute, Charte UT execute, Armor break if you didn't press Y otherwise dodge.

Corridor
Arena

Charge ut, execute, Charte UT execute, Armor break if you didn't press Y otherwise dodge.

Corridor
Arena

Never played a NG game before is this the kind of difficult game where I can just chip away at it bit by bit mastering each individual combat encounter or do I need to do long stretches at once without fucking up or lose loads of progress?

>>723927763
>>723927837
>>723927841
Sometimes Bloodraven will delimb asap and sometimes it doesn't, not an issue usually but for the fancier moves like the pole vault horizontal swipe it just makes it pointless if it doesn't delimb

>>723927849
checkpoints are pretty forgiving, its not like NG1 where you have to restart from the last manual save with some insane runbacks

>>723927239
Yes, you don't need any legacy knowledge and it plays it's own way.

>>723927849
If you die you can restart right before the combat encounter or your last checkpoint

How many weapons do you think Ryu and Yakoomer are getting in the dlc? A lot of people here say that it's going to be only one but i haven't seen anything confirming that and i find it very hard to believe.

>>723927923
Doesn't matter if bloodraven delimbs shitters or not, the problem are the tankier trash mobs not the small guys

>>723927923
>Sometimes Bloodraven will delimb asap and sometimes it doesn't
delimbs have always been fairly rng but a way you can mitigate it is wear the charm that increases damage after an OT, pretty much every bloodraven/gleam i do after an OT delimbs at least one enemy even on MN.

>>723927846
Hell yeah bros

>>723927940
I think this is one of my favorite things about this game. You can either play Yakumo like Ryu or you can play him like a Platinum character. I wouldn't be surprised if they didnt intend to have Ryu playable in this game initially

>>723927989
DDB is a given as they can just port it from Yakumo. My other bet is the staff as half the animation work is there from Yakumo too.

I would love BotA again though, we already have the skin from the dlc.

Playing Black right now. Admittedly not far but you guys really over sell the adventure elements, besides feeling sort of vaguely like Resident Evil in terms of progression, structure and level design (mostly on surface level). Its just been combat room after combat room

>>723927472
Yes. Hard mode is a challenge but nothing crazy if you've cleared these kinds of games in max difficulty. Just thinking about Master Ninja is making me think back to those IS ninja sections on MN in 2

>>723927937
>>723927985
Nice that's exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm not confident in my skill but if I can just keep resetting and getting it done bit by bit I can get through it. It's the losing loads of progress tedium that I can't usually deal with in difficult games.

>>723928023
>delimbs have always been fairly rng
yeah, but like in NG2 I liked to fish for leg delimbs with the Talon baseball slide and if it doesn't it's fine because it's a short single move but Bloodraven costs gauge so I dunno what to think really

Difficulty ranking of MN in my opinion:
Hardest to easiest.
>NG3RE UN + Trials
>NG2 OG MN
>NG B MN
>NG4 MN
>NGS MN
>NG3 MN
>NGS2 MN (grabs being instakill is not difficulty)

>>723927720
Take your meds.

>>723927751
Yeah, being in the air was somewhat safe before but it's risky here, especially since these niggers can block mid-air. I found the rapier a bit hard to use for this reason since it extends air combos so much rather than having strings that being you back down.

>>723928192
>but Bloodraven costs gauge
use your spin LS X and Y moves that are universal to all weapons, the delimbs are very consistent with the lance and starting swords IMO

>>723928236
NG2 isn't hard and bosses on PotMN are easier because you get free UTs from adds.

>>723928103
The exploration/adventure elements of DMC1 and NGB were always overstated, those elements were mostly there because RE and OOT were popular games at that point and that was the influence of the era, similar to how tons of games have Souls influence now. Sigma 1 also removed a lot of the puzzle/platforming stuff from NGB and made it just more pure combat.

>>723926143
>45yo boomer
>Got the platinum in some of the devil may cry games and bayonettas
You're just built different unc. Congrats on having better reactions than the vast majority of zoomies i guess lol

>>723927646
yeah but this should work only if i start charging right? i never charge I'm still spamming like a sperg

>>723924272 (OP)
I liked it a lot on normal. The game is sort of obnoxious on Master Ninja, though. I feel that way about parts of even NGB too, but the checkpoints in NG4 make some sections almost excruciating. Blasting through it on normal I didn't notice anything strange about the checkpoint placement, but I get it now. Hard mode might be the sweet spot for this game which I'm alright with; I have nothing to prove.

My tentative ranking would be NGB > NG4 > NG2 > NG3RE. The level design isn't outstanding and some chapters are far too long (all the more reason to drop my MN attempt) but I still think the game is more consistently entertaining than NG2 or for that matter DMC4 and DMC5. I'm looking forward to the DLC. Yakumo still sucks though. The game didn't convert me. It's just a bad character design.

>>723928441
The charge window is extremely short and happens on accident .

>>723928285
Not an argument

>>723928103
Yeah, it's pretty straightforward which is why whenever i see some faggot shit on the game for it's exploration and "puzzles" i know to disregard their opinions completely.

>>723926143
I'm decent at action games but DMC is just my absolute filter cause I suck at consciously using different moves to boost my grade in fights. It like cripples my reaction time.

Yakumo lacking a dedicated launcher or air combo string is really fucking me up, I try to jump into the air to combo and he just dives down again if you press X without doing XY first

>>723928539
Take your meds.

>>723928432
Modern action games are lenient, Sekiro is probably one of the faster ones and i doubt the game has a single attack that's faster than 300ms.

>>723928339
NG4 bosses also drop red balls for free UTs. Just saying.

>>723928473
Played on hard and haven't started MN but it feels like a real sweet spot. Challenging mobs, challenging bosses, but not so challenging you can't play how you want.

>doing decent with Yakumo, getting C or B rank on each stage
>first Ryu stage
>finally my Hayabusa autism and hours upon hours of replaying 2 and RE kick in
>feels just as natural as always yet now I have access to gleam stance
Also I actually like Yakumo and his gameplay a lot. They did good with both characters.

>>723928441
>>723928507
also it happens even faster if you unlocked the move that speeds up charging after jumping

Game kind of feels like a combination of Sekiro and Ninja Gaiden. I like it.

>>723928660
I think it's more that Ryu is just broken as hell, he's like the EZ mode character of the game.

>>723928660
Does Ryu actually feel the same as previous games?

>>723928631
Speed isn't really the difficulty factor I'd say. It's the parry windows. Sekiro is pretty easy despite how fast it is cause you have half an hour to deflect anything so if your timings are off you're still fine. Compare it to Royal Guard in DMC which gives you half a microsecond of a window.

Seori is my favourite NG girl by far

>>723928835
was

>>723928631
This is a fully charged UT against a boss on hard mode. Not even worth a regular 4-hit combo. A 360 level 1 charged Lunar shaves off 20% of a boss' health in NG2.

>>723928835
Mine too

>tfw no guides for finding ayane's shurikens in ng+
i have checked every box every corner where the fuck are they reeeeeee

Anyone beat it on master ninja yet? Is there any unlockable for beating it in MN?

anyone else struggling with the projectile spam?

>>723929004
Yes.
And no.

Beat chapter 3 on hard.
Not feeling the game.

>>723929019
What is it

>>723928738
modern gamers and bots are mentally insane. Game is nothing like sekiro or ninja gaiden

>>723928940
The bit where she says 'oof, that bad?' to Yakumo after the Kitsune boss is so good

>>723929068
Nothing. I said yes to having beaten it. You get a sense of pride and an end rank I guess? Also if you want the achievement, it can be done in chapter challenge as Ryu.

>>723924272 (OP)
Actually it's fucking amazing

>>723928913
Parry stagger into UT is free damage. game is built around le action button cutscene, it's kinda sad actually, no idea why they did this.

Itagaki won

>>723929085
t.bot

During the credits sequence why is Yakumo still murdering the DDO guys? Why are the DDO guys even still hanging around?

>>723929153
Praying for Mork to actually bring this shit up and everyone can pretend they always hated it and definitely aren't sucking it off right now

Is he edgelord cringe or edgelord kino?

>>723929153
Itagaki's a fraud actually. Look into NG1 and 2's credits and roles. He wasn't even the sole director on a single NG title. You're also wrong. And schizophrenic.

>>723929118
Oh, I'm a retard then my bad.

>>723929239
Pure 2000s edge kino

>>723929239
Cringe. He's not a bad character (he's not much of anything at all, really) but the design is terrible. I think most people would be apathetic about him at worst if he just had a better design.

I'm just gonna say it

Delimbing is a stupid mechanic

Why the fuck am I rolling for crits. Why can't I just hit the enemy until it dies. Why does my action game need RNG to determine my survivability. It's a weird system and I don't understand the benefit.

Like
>chop enemy's limb off
>execute it
That's a cool mechanic, I'm down with that. But why is it chance-based? There are so many better ways to do it than RNG rolls.

>>723929239
Cringe kino

>>723929239
He's just Ryu but as a teenager so I'm fine with it

>>723929153
what fucking action button?
if you mean UTs then ng sadly always was like this.
parries sucks in this game, it is powerful when you pull it off, sure.

Highly recommend zooming the camera all the way out in settings

>>723929085
It does though. Chapter 4 in particular feels like Sekiro.

>>723929153
That's Platinum games for you. They have super parry/dodge mechanics of some sort that you're expected to abuse or die.

wow ongbal is really good at this game already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Stp6IR7Ks

>>723929292
Yep, his design suck, that's the thing.

>>723929342
Zelda lost Baldur's Gate 3, by the way.

>>723928585
You just need to spend half an hour in practice mode to build muscle memory for chaining different moves. With these games it's always good practice to invest some time into learning, even if just a little bit, to boost your gameplay considerably.

i've been playing Ragebound and i think it's pretty good

>>723929081
>tfw the game starts throwing pity items at you if you die too many times
I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN SYMPATHY

>>723929268
no anon i think youre beautiful

>>723929318
>if you mean UTs then ng sadly always was like this.
Execution, also there's a UT that's tied to the execution/parry/dodge thing, ive done it a couple of times against bosses but i have no idea how it works and i ain't reading shit.

>>723929239
Edge kino. I like his one-liners against bosses.

>>723929294
It was good in NG2 because it was super likely and if not there were so many ways to kill, here things just feel so tanky and/or you can absolutely assblasted by mobs now so fishing for delimbs just increases the chance of you getting got

>>723929391
Ryu... Get up! Fight back Ryu!

>>723929294
it was never fully RNG, you always had some move with very high if not guaranteed delimb and your job as the player is to figure which ones

>>723929294
The primary benefit is of course having fun.

>>723929458
>also there's a UT that's tied to the execution/parry/dodge thing, i
There's not. You don't even have a surface level understanding on the game you claim to be playing. How can you sit there like a total faggot, pretending to speak with authority? My condolences to the people in your life. What a burden to have.

ayane is surely coming back? i can't wait to see her moveset

>>723927670
I keep mixing it up every other string, swaping between normal and bloodraven constantly, so even if enemies start blocking you fuck them up.

>>723929294
I think RNG is overhated in action games, it's the same with how people complain about not being able to hit every frame perfect max-act with Nero, you're not supposed to. The playstyle is meant to be a bit chaotic. You adapt on the fly instead of planning ahead

>>723924702
>Best Platinum game since Bayo 1
That's Devastation but NG4 is the best since Devastation
>Best Team Ninja game since NG2
That's Stranger of Paradise

>>723929391
Nooo you're hecking disrespecting Ryu Hayabusa!

>>723929556
holy shit she finally grew up

>>723929556
What's her Bloodraven equivalent? Mountain God ninjutsu? Maybe her exploding kunai?

>>723929431
I don't like it as much as the NES games but it's a great game. The levels are easy and the bosses feel just right and I'd rather it were the other way around, though.

>>723929552
>There's not.
There is and i'm not claiming to be an authority you humongus loser, go watch one of your e-celebs and jack off to your dead failure of a game. Modern industry is shit and this game is no different.

>>723928375
>those elements were mostly there because RE and OOT were popular games at that point and that was the influence of the era, similar to how tons of games have Souls influence now.
Interesting, I never thought about this but this makes some sense.

>>723929239
cringe but with sometimes a bit of kino, like in some trashy anime that still has a few good scene here and there.
People these days can't design iconic characters for shit (especially male characters)

>>723929431
How strong is the Ragebound guy compared to Yakumo

>>723928835
>>723928940
Is there no better Seori moments being posted or did I miss them?

>>723929870
that's not the pre-order skin thoughlebeit, its the deluxe edition one

>>723929625
Hard disagree. The chaos can come from the fact that managing a complex system on the fly is too taxing so you devolve to heuristics.

As an out-of-my-ass example
>enemies have separate hidden HP bars for each limb
>in addition to the usual HP damage an attack does, it can apply HP loss to a specific limb, depending on the attack
>different enemy classes have different levels of HP per-limb.

Now you have a totally predictable, reliable system where choosing specific attack patterns makes delimbs happen more consistently, and it's also unique per enemy. Nothing about this is random at all. But in the fray, you aren't computing hidden HP calcs per limb per enemy, you're using mental heuristics like "if I go for XXXY on these enemies I get the delimb" because that happens to proc big damage to lower right leg and those enemies happen to have low leg HP.

The point is, let the chaos come from player imperfection. Let there always be more room to grow as a player in terms of mastery. No reason to let it all come down to RNGesus. Not because it actually matters for a typical playthrough, but because knowing you COULD have gotten the delimb guaranteed if you had played smarter is aspirational.

>>723929870
It's not, it's in the deluxe edition. This one is the only preorder exclusive.

>>723929967
What like lorewise? Yakumo is second to Ryu in the verse right now.

>>723930045
yeah, I guess I shouldn't have expected the side game guy to be that strong

>>723930000
>>723930042
desu i pre-ordered the deluxe so that's on me for conflating them
still i love this skin

>>723929239
I will 100% blame him for the game flopping

>>723929870
Woah it's so coo-
>tail
I would have been mad if I spent near 100 bucks for this.

What should I tell my barber to get a haircut like this?

>>723929918
I mean it's pretty obvious, playing early DMC titles you can feel how it borrows from those games, solving puzzles to unlock rooms, that sort of thing. There's a natural progression from the experience playing something like Dodongo's Cavern in OOT to M17 in DMC, it's a weird and perverse path where slowly the Lizalfos fight room becomes more and more of the game until it's the entire thing.

>>723930189
>"Fuck my shit up"

>>723930189
>I want that Tokyo Ghoul look

>>723930151
you barely see it in motion + it's based on the final boss who is a dragon/human hybrid thing

so where were these raven fags during NG1 and

>>723929413
Yeah I never have the patience for that. If I can't just go into it intuitively I just bounce off it. Same reason I've never liked fighting games despite liking action games and why Sekiro is my favorite action game ever. I just like simpler combat systems that rely on instinct over calculative thought. If I have to think at all in any action game it's over for me. I'm an unga bunga grug to my core.

>>723930318
>first bit of lore about them in 4 says they work in the shadows and live in isolation
>"where were they"
anon, i...

>>723930359
I find it very hard to believe Ryu doesn't know them

>>723930189
>i want the discord groomer pfp cut

>>723930424
Ryu does. he just didn't know Yakumo.

>>723930424
He does. He seems to think they are bums based on how he talks about them in this game.

Am I playing wrong or does Yakumo's bread and butter combos feel kind of lacking? The only twin swords combos that don't involve him launching into the air is XXXXX, XXXXY and YY? Also how do you kick enemies away from you in the air? I can only get him to kick them downwards

Best way to enjoy this game is you need to realize for at least the first 24 hours you are not going to get it. Give it time and don’t let it frustrate you too much it’s ok that you’re going to get hit and get a common ninja rank but just keep playing I promise you are going to get it it’s just a very different ninja gaiden game

>>723929292
>>723929239
I wish they had played up the raven motif more. His mask should have more avian accents, not a generic oni look. He already has a big feather cape in Bloodraven form, just go all out. The talon boots are a nice touch at least.

>>723930527
This. I didn't enjoy Yakumo on my first run. On my 2nd, I played only Ryu for MN. On my third, I'm doing MN with Yakumo and he clicked. Feels good.

>>723930189
the faggot e-boy that gets no pussy

>>723924702
I actually like 3 RE more than 4 but 4 is my 2025 goty

>>723930503
uhm sweetie no one is actually playing the game , hope you enjoy mashing x or getting clapped by armor breaks

So it's a Platinum game that has elements of Ninja Gaiden, and not a Ninja Gaiden game, right?

>>723930623
He gets the best one wdym

>>723930761
Correct

how do i get this

>>723930761
It's definitely more Ninja Gaiden than Platinum, all though the Platinum DNA is very much present

>>723930503
You press XYXXY to kick in the air. As for ground combos, you can incorporate specials like full circle X, Back-Forward Y, ect

>>723930761
Ninja Gaiden game with elements of Platinum

>>723930829
>It's definitely more Ninja Gaiden than Platinum
i could not disagree more

I'll murder myself in my sleep.

Oh my god I am crying at Yakumo's first interaction with Ayane

>>723930926
>items
>not jumping out of the pool
You know what you did wrong, anon. Just try again. Tilting makes you play worse.

Uni sounds like a PAWG

give me one good reason why I should do any other air combo besides izuna drop

>>723931007
I dunno about white but I just know her ass phat

>>723931062
XYXXY lets you yeet enemies off the stage

>>723931062
>>723927584
you could do this and instead of flying swallow do a guillotine throw, or do a flying swallow + guillotine for peak chaos

>>723931062
GT mid air to throw an enemy into a flying bastard goes hard

>>723931000
First time I got this close to killing. Minime got me distracter because he was literally screaming "ONE MORE HIT! ONE MORE HIT NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I'm about to beat NG2 on mentor. I know I can do it, but I find this game very hard to learn, VERY hard. I know the utility of UTs, OTs, windstep, etc, but I don't have a fluent understanding of the game. Only an understanding which allows me to get by. There are some tricks I don't imagine I'd ever have found out about without being told because I work based on pre-conceived ideas, which I've made a big mistake of not only not identifying but accepting as possibly not true. You have to apply the scientific method. I don't know if this game is too much for me or not. Still will attempt MN after, with the goal of completing it. I don't know if I'm an advanced pleb because of mindset or something concrete like IQ.

>>723930926
I turned it off during mission 1, but are you telling me that the input prompts just stay on all game unless you manually go in and disable them?

Come on Platinum, what the fuck is this shit.

want this game pretty badly, but i dont think its wise for me to buy it, especially since i'm a poor man who is trying to better his finances. i guess i'll wait for a sale.

Honestly the feel of Yakumo is a weird midpoint between NG & Platinum to the point I wish it was much more one way or the other, particularly when it comes to defense. The guard isn't quite like NG's and the dodge isn't quite like Platinum's, plus the "Bloodraven on reaction" attacks make me think of Revengeance but the cadence of them doesn't quite feel the same. I think I'll get used to it with time but it really doesn't feel like anything I was comparing it to.

>>723931394
You could wait for the dlc

>>723931394
It has no denuvo so just pirate and make up for the missing sale by letting others know it's worth a buy.

>>723931437
That's what I like about it. You can tell it wasn't just "put the thing from X in here" someone actually sat down with each of these systems and asked probing questions about how to make them function together in an interesting and coherent way.

15 years from now, action games will be aping NG4 mechanics and people will be making shitposts about how
>so and so has the Yakumo interrupt
the same way they do about Witch Time or Izuna Drop.

>>723931291
Yes. A lot of games do that since it might be the first game for someone. At least we can turn it off. NG4 offer a lot of customizations that other games refuse to give you.

>>723931450
NTA but any word on when the DLC is coming? I don't want to be burnt out so I'll probably just do one playthrough and tehn wait for the DLC.

>>723931649
Feb 2026 is their aim.

>>723931649
>NTA but any word on when the DLC is coming?
"early 2026" is all they've said

>>723931649
Early 2026

>>723931291
I get it, casuals will genuinely forget Bloodraven is a mechanic if it isn't constantly reaffirmed to them.

>>723931782
>playthrough 4
HOW

>>723931673
>>723931689
>>723931704
Oof that's a ways off. Not in any rush then I guess.

>>723931814
I broke my hip recently so I am on sick leave.

>>723931709
For mission 1, fine, beyond that it's obnoxious. IMO
>always on, until turned manually off, in easy mode
>turns off automatically after mission one in normal mode, can be turned back on
>off by default on hard, can be turned on
>off on MN, cannot be turned on
is how I'd do it.

Transformers Devastation did this perpetual input prompt thing too and I fucking hated it there as well.

What's up with the new retard's movement? Block > Dodge > Jump used to be the fastest and smoothest way to get around, but it feels bad in this game. It's like they intentionally made it bad so you should use the snake's boyfriend run instead.

>>723931949
>Transformers Devastation did this perpetual input prompt thing too and I fucking hated it there as well.
One of my few issues with TFD yeah, I do not need the trigger shown to me every fucking Vehicle Attack prompt. Hi-Fi Rush as well with the timing circle but I at least get why that's there.

>>723927472
I played and beat the other NG games (albeit with some difficulty) but this one kicked my ass.
The first real boss gave me a run for my money and started using items just to get by.

>made to the last chapter
how hard is it anons? wasn't expecting to get this far...

Is ryu’s jp voice the same guy? I need to hear that TOE- WAH pls

>>723924272 (OP)
Can I run it in my shit box poorfag PC?
I have a 1080ti and it actually runs NG2Black pretty well

>>723930761
Precisely. It only starts to feel like NG when you play as Hayabusa, and they even tricked him out with flashy Platinum-esque style super attacks.

>>723932153
Devastation is a cool game but all the slowdown and pausing during vehicle attack gets annoying. I don't mind the slowdown in this game because the breathing room is nice with how much shit you have to look out for

>Played the first mission on hard
>Rank: B
>Looked inside
>Penalty for using item
>Penalty for retry
>There's a bonus for no hit run

>>723930194
>it's a weird and perverse path where slowly the Lizalfos fight room becomes more and more of the game until it's the entire thing.
Sad because games only got more and more action focused as time went on. Few puzzles and if there ever were any they are like 5 to 10 minutes long and show up every 3 hours in a 10 hour game. I wonder if RE4 was the nail in the coffin, a traditionally adventure game series clearly inspired by point abd clicks in some sense, that eventually just becomes straight action.

Part of the reason i wanted to play black is because i thought the adventure aspect would set it apart, as almost all action games feel effectively the same to me (moreso in structure and progression than literally: Fight Enemy -> Move Along Path -> Light Platforming or Puzzle -> Move Along Path -> Fight Enemy but this time in an arena setting that arbitrarily traps you -> Move Along Path -> Fight Enemy -> Rinse and Repeat except a light puzzle shows up again after like 3 cycles of this)

>>723924272 (OP)
This

>>723927472
Normal mode is already harder than the other titles. I dread what MN has in storage for me. I got used to izuna drop and UT my way out of trouble, now i'm getting my ass kicked.

>just ran into the orange samurai for the first time in a purgatory
My parry skills suck, I can already tell master ninja is gonna be hell. The parry window is really tight it feels

Weapon ranking? For me it's
1. Yatousen
2. Kage Hiruko
3. Takeminakata
4. Dragon Sword
5. Magatushi
The staff / hammer is the only one that didn't really click with me, it's alright but I don't really switch to it much.

>>723930042
This looks bad too because the hair and the mask don’t match the outfit. Looo at the windmill ninjas /vigoorian ninjas in NGB, something more in that direction would have been good to give him a cohesive but more traditional look while also being somewhat fantasy inspired

Common itagaki W

>>723932785
1. Dragon Sword
2. Kage Hiruko
3. Yatousen
4. Takeminakata
5. Magatushi

Is there a way to disable the yellow shit?

>>723932526
On Prime I appreciate the slowdown to be honest, you can get mauled to death like in NG if there's enough enemies, even with the Bayo magic pixel helping you.

>>723932931
No

Where do I start with this series? the very first NES game?

do you unlock MN if u clear with normal?

>>723932526
The slowdown during vehicle attacks in Devastation is more than just aesthetic, the time dilation applies differently to the player and to the enemies, you actually get free frames to attack while the enemy is still in suspended animation. It's relevant to the flow there and can't go away without fundamentally breaking how the game works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr-gGT-rkjc

Why aren't the DLC costumes showing up? I even reinstalled the game but the game still doesn't give me the option to use them despite having bought the DLC on Steam. What is happening.

>>723924820
No slander do ds3, it hurts my fee fees

>>723930318
They’re OC which is the problem. And like all terrible OC — the OC debuts with a massive power level rivaling or exceeding the existing cast or factions. doesnt matter how in the shadows they are as some other anon argued they are, the hayabusa would have at least HEARD of them. It’s poor writing.

>>723933054
You have to claim them from Umi.

A or C would've been a better design desu, chest piece on the final design is too weird.

I actually think normal is too easy. You get essentially infinite healing, and with generous parry and block / dodge counter timings, you can just sort of mash square triangle R1 and get the job done. You don't even take that much damage from bosses. The game does a great job of making you feel like you are playing an intense and hard game while actually mostly being a cakewalk.

Early on ranged damage teaches you to get rid of ranged units first, but then they give you an amulet to half the damage of ranged attacks so they are more a nuisance than a genuine threat.

>>723933054
You get it on the item shop

>>723933054
Try restarting Steam, worked for me.

>>723933112
>>723933214
That's right. I forgot about that. You had to do that for the preorder outfits too. Derp. Thanks.

>>723932931
Yellow paint... Strange..... Perhaps these markings will guide me to my destination. Paint? On the walls? I should take the time to deviate off the main path and explore this venture. I may even find a secret. This paint is made of yellow paint, it must have been used to mark a special location

I finally understood this bitch. Bosses are weird. Instead of going 200% octane offense, you actually need to slow down and just counter.
Kinda boring but that's why I was butting my head on this bitch.

>>723933156
I think the later bosses are at a solid difficulty level on normal if you don't abuse the healing items, but most of the mob encounters (outside purgatory) are fairly easy. Hard mode is probably the sweet spot for my tastes.

>>723933051
This is how I imagined my toys fighting as a kid

>>723933393
That's why I had 56 deaths on mission 1. I had to unlearn to unga that boss. What's funny is, I recognized objectively early on how I was supposed to be playing (stop, wait for the bloodraven interrupt window) but it took my muscle memory and reflexes a while to catch up with my common sense.

This is why never use items, kids. You learn the right lessons sooner if you don't permit yourself to succeed without learning.

>>723924702
Please tell me posts like this are fake.
This is EASILY the worst Ninja Gaiden
> Movement is awful
> WALKING TALKING SECTIONS
> Enemies are retarded
> Hard guard cap, what is this fisherprice action game? You can literally upgrade "you can guard 3 hits" to "you can guard 5 hits" FUCKING LMAO this is the worst thing I've seen in an action game I think ever, a hard number of guaranteed defended hits you can't make this shit up
> Oh no watch out BIG UNBLOCKABLE ATTACK MARKED IN RED
> Oh no watch out, off-screen attack, EXCLAMATION POINT
> Ultimate technique now goes football field distances, so literally no consequence to using it
> OH NO EnEMY IS BLOCKING? Hold LT that breaks their guard
> OH NO ENEMY IS DOING EVIL RED ATTACK? Hold LT that breaks their attack
> Obliteration technique? Stop attacking for 15 minutes first
> Shuriken cancel attack? Sometimes, maybe
> Auto lock on is hilarious, I killed an enemy and my dude continued his combo on the other end of the screen
> Magnet obliteration technique, just spam Y/triangle no matter where you are man

This isn't just a shit Ninja Gaiden game.
This is about as good as that TMNT game they made, slightly above the Korra game.
I can't believe I trusted you fucking assholes, you get me every single time.

>>723932931
seriously don't know what retard normalized this. There are a million ways to use color theory or just environmental design to make things hard to miss and still feel organic.

>Try to play a little slower and parry
>Game takes my focus away from the enemy I parried and I whiff the counter
>Try dodging instead
>Enemies space attacks so perfectly I get scratched at least once
>Blocking works ok, but I can't hold it forever obviously
>Sometimes it feels like I get hit when an enemy is just barely starting to attack
>Difficulty changes nothing on enemy aggressiveness, just less damage
Starting to get filtered, I want to enjoy it but combat just isn't clicking for me, old NG strats just don't work here.

>>723933482
I started on hard and died at least a hundred times already. Just got to chapter 3. Loving it.

>>723933393
She's the one boss I had the most success countering with blocks/dodges/parries in the game, along with the final boss and Ryu. She's one of the more fun for that reason.

>>723933518
True facts. TFD is literally the best action game ever made.

>>723933012
2D & 3D Ninja Gaiden are different beasts but there's no harm in playing both. The ones to play:
>NES trilogy
>Black (Sigma is a sidegrade, maybe slightly worse but not by enough if it's your best option)
>2 (Vanilla is very different from Sigma 2 & 2 Black, ideally play Vanilla 2 and 2 Black since 2B is a way better version of S2)
>3Razor's Edge
>Ragebound
>4
Plus if you have a DS, Dragon Sword is a nice side game.

I think i like the game more than NG2 now.
it's over

>>723933012
You don't have to start that far back but they are probably good. I've only played a bit of the original NG for the NES and it was good and notoriously hard, as NG is well known for, so if you want that you might like it.

The 3D NG games are sort of their own thing. I'd recommend Ninja Gaiden Black and OG2. Sigmas are ok but Sigma 2 is altered in a number of BIG ways, much bigger than Sigma 1, and many hate that version. I can't speak on it in depth but it has lower enemy counts (especially in certain areas) which they compensate for by giving them more health, and it's overall a lot easier apparently (but I've yet to play that version on higher difficulties). The bosses I fought when playing were dumbed down, tests of valor are gone, and other things. It has some additions like Momiji chapters, Ayane chapters, and Rachel chapters (like Sigma 1). Black 2 fixes a couple of the problems of Sigma 2 but it's mostly the same, that being said there are mods for both Sigma 2 and Black 2 on PC that make them more like the original game, called Sigma 2 Black, and Ninja Gaiden 2 White. I've never used them though. Sigma 1 also has a Black mod that makes it more like NGB, so you do have options if you don't have access to an Xbox and want something closer to the original experience.

Ninja Gaiden 3 RE has good combat, but it has some bad elements like an aids story that's an insult to what NG is.

>>723933541
you should always be aggressive unless you want to reposition yourself to avoid a big attack, stop being surrounded or target a ranged foe.

Literally just mash xx R1x YY etc and when you think something is about to hit you spam Y block and dodge, one of them will usually get counter timing.

>>723933528
Oh man I forgot,
> this game has mini missions now.
Again, you can't make this up.
"Kill x enemy with y"
Fucking God of War 2016 has more respect for itself than this awful fucking abomination of a game.
What was that PS3 game called that aped Ninja Gaiden by From Soft? Like Ninja Blade or something? That shit felt MUCH better than this.

We are getting to the point where a fucking cinematic shitshow from Sony has more interesting combat than a japanese platinum studios games named after legendary action franchises.
CLOWN WORLD bro CLOWN WORLD fuck all of you, thank God I am within 2 hours, I bought the $90 edition after hearing you guys gush over this TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRash

>>723933528
I'm not gonna read the whole post but through the whole game the "walkie talk" sections are much shorter than the dogshit water combat sections in 2. If I have stomach that I can stomach hearing Yakumo stop to talk for 5 seconds

>>723933738
It's fun because it's a fresh game that hasn't been turned inside out for 10+ years yet.

>>723932067
kek nobody knows what you are talking about it, gaming is cooked.
They made the run faster cause the corridors are long, that way you can stare at the UE5 assets.

>>723933141
I like how tacticool E looks

>>723933801
>What was that PS3 game called that aped Ninja Gaiden by From Soft? Like Ninja Blade or something? That shit felt MUCH better than this.
Nobody is gonna take you seriously when you post such garbage bait like this, not even the biggest FromSoft cuck defends Ninja Blade

>>723933738
Ryu only has 1 weapon which sucks for a full run.

The game isn't as cheap / strict as NG2, so it will never have quite the same charm, where you aren't just good, but kind of have to exploit the AI / design a bit to succeed. Master ninja NG2 is really conquering the game that doesn't care if it's unfair or not.

>>723933814
>cant read
leave then, you are worthless.

>>723933528
>> Hard guard cap, what is this fisherprice action game? You can literally upgrade "you can guard 3 hits" to "you can guard 5 hits" FUCKING LMAO this is the worst thing I've seen in an action game I think ever, a hard number of guaranteed defended hits you can't make this shit up
It's an objectively better design decision. If you can't see why I won't bother discussing it with you.

I am only a couple chapters in but so far it just FEELS so sluggish compared to black and 2. It feels like a platinum game. It gets better the more NG moves you unlock but it still feels sluggish.

>>723933867
It's not UE5 you dumb fucking niggercattle

>Tch... Still don't stand a chance...
>Dies 1 second later
Bros I love Yakumo

>>723933914
Nah, master ninja in 2 fucking blows when fighting anything that isn't ninja.

>>723933738
It's a strange feeling. I'm use to modern sequels being inferior to games from over 10 years ago

>>723933051
Oh man I love Challenge 02, so many deaths even on Magnus let alone Prime but it's a thrill every time.
>>723933603
Can't argue with that.

The gliding and rail sections are janky as SHIT especially if they're conbined

>>723933051
What the fuck is going on lmao

>>723933973
I heard that dialogue line so many times. So many times. Look, it's cool as shit that the dude's samurai pauldron is a heatsink and it gets hot when his suit supercharges his attacks in his pissed off phase. And it's cool that his face goes black so you know he's gone "mask off" despite only wearing a helmet.

but man, you can't train me to watch for an enemy going shadowy and glowing red when they do a super attack, and then just make that how the boss looks whenever he attacks, and NOT expect me to bloodraven at the wrong time, game.

>>723932067
>>723933867
Oh no, instead of having to constantly chain dashing into jumping to move around, you now can just simply run around. What a big problem.

>>723934015
older games had perfect imperfections, but NG4 is progressive in that is increases complexity and irons out the old jank ( camera and performance issues etc)

It's also not DEI infested from what I can tell which helps alot. It's just campy anime cringe.
I hope they reveal the twink is actually korean, because he looks like it and it would be funny to draw connections to the raven clan and koreans in japan.

Any chance they'll announce a 2nd dlc?

>>723924272 (OP)
Just finished it, fun game

>>723933028
No.

>>723933951
>sluggish
It's the complete opposite, old NG was much more commitment focused with Ryu being incredibly locked in. NG4 is much more like a Platinum game where characters are mobile as shit and zip across the screen easily, for better or worse

There is one sneaky reference to a character from Ninja Gaiden 1 (It's Kureha, only mentioned in an achievement text)
There are no mentions at all to any characters from Ninja Gaiden 2
There is one text-appearance from a character from Ninja Gaiden 3 (Ishigami)
They really weren't interested in a lot of callbacks here

>>723934073
They did them flawlessly actually. just enough input to not be a total cutscene while also not being anything with any substance. They aren't confusing.

>>723934213
I think there's a pretty good chance. Just based on the deluxe edition wording, something may already be in the works.

>>723934213
I very much hope so, game is fun as fuck and I want more of it. Chances are slim though.

anyone wondering where the sky city tokyo ayane kunai is on ng+ i just found it, it's after the 2nd set of shops after you do a wall jump to the top, turn around and it's there - theres also a hidden encounter with the otherworldy invaders if you take the pipe to the left

>>723934271
Yeah I was shocked by how interactive they actually were, I was failing them quite a lot early on because I was just expecting QTE's

>>723934263
Did not expect Ninja Gaiden 3 love but I basedjaked when I realized. I Don't even like that boomer

>>723924272 (OP)
Now question her
>>723901725

>>723934323
I was shocked at how easy it was to know where they wanted you to go. having very lax timing helps, but this is the sort of this where if your camera is positioned wrong it can be a nightmare to find the grapple point if done wrong.

>>723934271
I agree, they blend perfectly into gameplay. 3re climbing sections were already more of a mini game rather than qte, but in ng4 these sections are even smoother.

>>723934174
in TFD, your Overdrive meter (sort of like NG4's bloodbath meter, it fills as you attack stylishly and aggressively and you have to maintain it) changes attack properties. One of the things it changes is that at max overdrive, ANY knockdown triggers a vehicle attack window, rather than just combo finishers. Think of it like, if you play Bayonetta at high rank and take no damage, you get Wicked Weaves on every strike.

The player in the video builds his character for maximum overdrive build speed... and also builds his weapons to have high knockdown rate. So very quickly, 3 in every 5 hitboxes procs a vehicle attack, and he can basically use them at will by pressing dodge whenever he likes.

Noble7Jamie was nuts. IDK who this guy is but he turned up in an old /cgg/ thread. Dude has like 200 followers but his TFD gameplay is peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvyg2ZcgvY&list=PLkctkYFUNwmCBGbcy9zxrIMIvPLX5ZX7O&index=14

>>723934363
More like where's Momiji

>>723924702
it's better than every other ninja gaiden game assuming not being Ryu doesn't bother you and yes only sits below Bayo 1 for Plat everyone who thinks otherwise is coping. I do think SoP is amazing but not quite the same genre

>>723934307

Why is there a bright blue filter over the whole game

Do you get more ennemy spawns and fights on hard or MNM?
I'm really starting to love this but sadly the level design is still more like sigma 2 and less like NG2 (filled with fights everywhere)

>>723934438
I've got triple-digit hours in TFD but I never made the jump to truly max out builds with weapon passives and TECH boosts. Huge respect for that.

>>723934568
Yes, but the spawns/locations aren't as varied as i hoped. One boss gets ads but then the rest don't, it's like they stopped caring.

>>723934604
Yeah, when I think of the great buildmonger action games like Warframe or Dead Cells, it never quite hits that high, but you're still gimping yourself if you never really engage with the weapon system beyond the basics like attack speed and such.

Marius Urucu (another TFD big hitter) constantly uses a high proc-rate shotgun with the slowdown effect, it basically lets him have Nero's Ragtime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmWJkGDLvSs&list=PLsLckV2lY7Urh-ekauq2eALtY2ate3q3d&index=10

>>723934271
nah the camera can barely keep up with Yakumo on some of the gliding sections

>>723934174
Constructicons = random civilians
Optimus = repeat offender who was just let out by the same judge for the 11th time

When the story started picking up, I thought that one of the important story beats would be that Ryu hasn't done everything himself because he is unwilling to sacrifice Seori to destroy the dark dragon, especially because it would naturally hit close to him with what happened to his own shrine maiden girlfriend Kureha. This would tie in really well to Yakumo and the Raven clan being the people who do the dirty work nobody else wants, and Yakumo accepts the burden of sacrificing Seori, showing how his edgy and uncompromising nature is necessary and heroic in a way that Hayabusa could never be. But then it just turns out the reason Ryu couldn't do it is just prophecy nonsense. A shame, I expected too much from a Ninja Gaiden story.

It's my favorite NG game so far bros.

>>723924272 (OP)
Punished for using a move. Woooow great game

>>723934461
More like where's Honkers

The game is literally this

How lengthy is the game? About the same as the others?

>>723924272 (OP)
Flop of the year confirmed

>>723934854
the enemy stays dead and you only lose a little health. it can be worth it

>>723934895
First run on hard was 17 hrs but i did all gates and exploring.

MOOOOOOOOOOOODS

HOLE SHIT BAN RUSSIA LAREADY YOU FUCKIN GRETARDS

Is the staff in chapter 2

>>723934950
I assume Xbox paid to make it profitable via gamepass even if it sold 0 copies.

The should have put denuvo in it desu.

>>723935031
chapter 7

>>723934803
Tell me a single game from Koei Tecmo that has a semblance of character depth.
There is also a reason why the only game praised by its story that had Platinum involved was Automata. They don't know human emotions, only how to rumble.

>>723934854
Next time just cancel into guillotine throw instead.

>>723934824
It's very good, I'm impressed.

>>723934950
Yeah sekiro was terrible

I'm on chapter 11 in NG2 on mentor difficulty and it's the hardest the game has been so far, it's a pretty significant boos in difficulty. Any tips?

>>723935139
This game takes a lot from sekiro. It's honestly sloppy sekiro.

>>723932067
>>723934190
Spamming flying swallow is actually the fastest way to move around now lol

I am considering buying this for $30, how is it? I heard about the master collection but I want the "modern" graphics.

Just a PSA if you used pic related. Your achievement list lied to you. Because you didn't beat the game.

>>723935359
It's pretty good, there should be a mod to make it more like NG2

>just got to the Ryu part
>his gleam attacks
>his combos
>that muramasa shop remix ost
>old school fiends
Its beautiful

>>723924702
it's worse than NG3RE. it's not even a NG game.
it's the worst NG game by far. it's an insult to the fans.
Ryu is not even in the game. he has no weapons, even his default moveset has been gutted and the controls, graphics and animations are much lower quality.

>>723935417
The gameplay of ninja gaiden cannot support a good camera. No NG game ever had a good camera. This is actually a good aid in helping that.

>>723934636
fuck, thanks, hopefully some mods will fix this in time. I don't mind too much for a first playthrough, sometimes I'm like
>where's everyone?

>>723935038
it was good for platinum since they got to keep the lights on
not so good for microsoft

>>723935523
it's supposed to get people to buy gamepass. That's all they care about

>>723929239
Cringe. he's the worst OC I've ever seen.

How do I get this? Or did I already pass the trigger because I played in offline mode? (and yes I noticed offline mode doesn't give achievements).

>>723934950
I honestly regret spending so much time on sekiro.
Fromsoft's modern masterpiece is AC6 by far, not sekiro. Both games directed by the same dude, but clearly the souls formula held them back completely.

>>723935359
pretty good, removes the gay statue bosses, adds gore back in and improves delimb rates
OG is better but it's not accessible without xbox or a diceroll on whether Xenia runs for you

>>723935480
>it's worse than NG3RE
Not going to read the rest of your post. You are profoundly retarded, NG3 wasn't even fun.

>>723935651
I'm wondering this too, i've tried everything. I even got 8 enemies in one swing with berserk mode Yatousen swing and nothing.

>>723924702
Bayo is trash, but you're right, this is the best since since NG2 and the best since MGR/Vanquish (although I haven't played Astral chain yet and I couldn't give less of a shit about bayo 2 or 3)

>>723935651
I just got this by going apeshit with it in berserk form in the final purgatory room. The instant kill seems to count just fine, but you wanna catch several suckers in it.

>>723935079
Revengeance easily has the best story in an action game along with DMC3 in my opinion. It's just most people who know about MGR have never played it and its popularity only grew due to "lol memes"

>>723935501
the camera is fine in NG 1-3 guarding will block all cheap offscreen attacks.
NG4 is just badly designed and they had no fucking clue what they were doing or why the first 3 games worked.

>>723935359
it's th best version once modded (you'll need a very good pc however)

>>723935809
Revengeance story isn't especially good, it just has entertaining characters and cutscenes, which is fine, that's all an action game needs, it's the vehicle for the game to happen

>>723929239
You will never be a real dragon warrior. You have no dragon sword, you have no ninpo. You are a homosexual twink twisted by raven porn and blood arts

Did the people that complain about "UT spam" in NG2 even play NG2? I've gotten to a point in NG2 on mentor (the second hardest difficulty) that's the perfect point for employing that kind of thing, and the perameters are so demanding that to do such a thing consistantly would still require a significant amount of effort. It doesn't make the difficulty any lower, so what are these people talking about?

>>723935721
NG3RE had far better animations, a much bigger moveset, much better programing and most importantly a much better character + 3 other playable character who all had more fuckgin work put into them than the phoned in scam garbage that is NG4 Ryu.

How would you rank the games?

>>723935927
Well not effort, but skill and prowess, and good execution. At one point it starts to really hold you to account for what you do.

>>723935928
Ryu is not the main character

>>723935983
Counting only definitive versions:
Black > 4 > 2 > 3RE

holy fuck, that platform over there has killed me more than anything else so far

>>723935927
Chaining UTs is literally the easiest and most braindead way to beat the game, you're invincible for something like 80% of the fight.

Really just feels I've been tanking the bosses the whole game because of how much items theg ame throws at you, not only is each level filled with more chests than half of NGB you get them forced on you for losing too much

>>723935721
it's better because there are more weapons and combat depth and you don't play as Fagumo.
>but it has forced walking
yeah so does Ninja fanfic 4. that's why it's garbage. it's a lower quality game AND it has all the same failings as 3.

>>723935887
Kek

>>723935983
For me (personally)
4 > 1 > 2 >= 3RE

>>723935359
It's not Vanilla 2, but it is an actually good version of what Sigma 2 had.

I think the game is fun but this is coming from someone that only played the 2D NES games

>>723935826
>the camera is fine in NG 1-3 guarding will block all cheap offscreen attacks.

The camera being the worst part of all NG games is a solid disputable fact. It's uttershit.
This UI gizmo actually does help solve than.
Do not reply to this post or your mom will die in your sleep tonight.

>>723935983
Og 2, black, 3re, I didn't play 4 not sure if I will

I think Ayane have a crush on Yakumo

>>723935983
4 - 9/10
1, 2, 3RE - 8/10

>>723936002
Ryu is not a character at all. he's a marketing scam to trick you into playing a shit game with a shit badly animated character you have zero interest in playing as.

and the 3 girls are not the main character either but they still had more work put into them than platinum monkey niggers spent on Ryu.

>NG3 defenders
Actual contrarians

>>723935983
1 > 2 = 4 > 3

>>723936106
What version did you play one and what difficulty? How far in did you play?

>>723935983
As someone who hasn't had the option to play the Xbox originals:
2 Black > 4 >= Sigma 1 > 3RE > Sigma 2

>>723936275
Vanilla 2 + Sigma 2, Master Ninja, all the way through. If you think spamming UTs is difficult there's no way you're making it past the first two chapters. It's not completely braindead but it's far easier than literally anything else you can do.

>>723924702
Why is it always so fucking obvious when somebody hasn't actually played Bayonetta

>>723936203
you didn't need the UI gizmo in NG2 and 3 because the mechanics were radically different.
NG4 is not a ninja gaiden game. for fucks sake your positioning does not even matter anymore because you magnetically teleport across the screen just by pressing attack like nu-god of war. it's slop.

Some people paid 70 fucking dollars for this trash...instead of downloading the pirate version

Fucking retards

>>723929239
His default design is just too fucking much.

>>723936467
I want to see more character action games

>>723936448
Retard, you sound like you haven't touched a single of one of the games you're blabbering about.

>>723936467
Time to jump ship amigo.

>>723936251
I enjoyed re the enochian stuff was cool original 2 is definitely better and ng black but it still has cool stuff in it I forget what that red bullshit is called in re but I hate how you pretty much had to use that all the time and the last boss fight sucked cool design though but so did ng black last boss but that was also a cool boss design

>>723932785
1. Takeminakata
2. Kage Hiruko
3. Dragon Sword
4. Yatousen
5. Magatushi

>>723935983
1 > 4 > 2 = 3

>>723935190
Another zoomer that thinks sekiro invented parrying

>>723936448
You haven't played the game

>>723935983
3RE > NGB/Sigma > 4 > 2B > 2 > DS > 3 > Sigma 2
I consider everything except 3 and Sigma 2 to be very good.

>>723929239
he's so shit in both design and writing that he will be remembered as a mistake. he's even worse than Yaiba.
you will have threads here in a years time going
>oh yeah that happened.
with this cunts picture.

Greetings gamers. I have a HOT take.
>ETs / UTs were a mistake
>delimbing and executions were a mistake

Thank you for your attention.

Ryu is so strong holy shit

>>723936636
Yeah you think they would have learned with yaiba apparently not

It’s actually kinda crazy that this game didn’t have AAA Studios involved

>>723935927
you cancel another action like landing from a jump into the UT. it charges in a fraction of a second as long as you have essence, and even if you don't, the charge has super armor and a defense boost. it's the only worthwhile move in the game

>>723935983
Black = Sigma = 2 = 3re = 4

I'm not kidding, I had about as much fun with all of them

>>723936652
That's what makes it a cool hack and slash

Maybe I need to train my ears a bit more with the game but I'm having trouble comprehending what the sounds actually are in combat. Some things are a bit TOO punchy

Twink

>>723936414
Weird. It's not like it's a 1 frame move. I'm at chapter 11 on mentor (the aggression is kicked up to a higher level than it's been the entire game so far) and the enviornment, + the sheer aggression of the enemies makes initiating on landing UT's at least significantly demanding as far as execution goes and it sort of forces you to do other things as well. It's a quick move but the essence doesn't reach you immediately. I've seen others gameplay on mn and have seen them utilize it a lot here but it doesn't seem brain dead. I used it for the staircase segment in which the enviornment was a lot more conducive to it.

I still have learning to do and never used on landing instant UT's often, so maybe I've yet to find out how easy it is, but from what I can tell so far it doesn't seem "braindead". It seems to take situational awareness and and good execution which is the opposite of braindead, however challenging it is or is not, so that's why I asked. You never know with NG since people like to spread memes.

I'm so glad this game is failing.
fuck platinum for pulling a bait a switch to sell their shitty magnetic combat with their fanfic OC and no Ryu.
so insulting to ninja gaiden fans. I can't wait for platinum to finally go bankrupt.
and team ninja can burn too for allowing this. They're only making souls slop with horribly optimized, unplayable PC releases now anyway.

>>723924272 (OP)
so is this just auto-combo shit?

I could never get into Razors Edge. I can see someone liking it a lot if its their first NG but it felt like such a downgrade coming directly off of NG1 and 2. I'm glad I'm not having the same issue with this game, they did good using NG2 for its foundation

>>723936719
>the charge has super armor and a defense boost
That I didn't know. Yet another example of how mych of a pleb I am at this.

My GOAT

>>723936886
>never used on landing instant UT's often
On landing is how you're supposed to do it, it's way faster and safer than doing it the regular way.

>>723936943
I think NG2 and 3RE are both games with deep flaws, as they both excel at combat but fail at almost everything else. So to me it's just a matter of which one has better combat, and I think it's hard to say that 2's izuna drop and UT spamfest is better than 3RE.

>>723936943
all razors edge needed was proper essence and less cinematic walky slop. something they still entirely fucked up in NG4.
in fact the constant chatter makes the game blatantly un-replayable.

>>723937051
That much I already know.

>>723937076
I'm not a autistic retard so chatter doesn't make a game unplayable to me, sorry

>>723937076
I found the banter pretty fun

god damn the wind gorge dragged on

>>723937076
removing essence was the best thing they ever did

>>723937215
I really love it when characters put me into a forced walking state or never shut the fuck up and let me listen to important audio cues in combat.

modern devs should be raped with a pitch fork.

>that secret final boss fight against Oniwaka you can access in NG+
holy kino

>>723937271
NG4, a game for platinum tards who hate NG.

>First time I decided to turn around at the start of a level
>Now I'm paranoid I missed shit

>Everyone keeps blaming Platinum for the lack of Ryu when the previous two NG games tried to shill a new protag too, and 3 tried to reinvent Ryu

There's clearly some senile KT exec who's absolutely convinced the problem with the series is Ryu so thats why he keeps pushing for him to be changed or replaced. The fact that PG correctly realized that Ryu had to be playable in NG4 in some capacity shows somebody at least knew what they were doing. 9/10 times when a japanese game does something stupid its because of some retarded out of touch boomer who's not even on the dev team.

>>723936886
X+A into jumping off people's heads (this gives iframes) into on landing UT is basically the easiest way you could play

>Hayabussy
>Yaibussy
>Yakumussy
I want to play as Hayate!

>>723937357
You did miss some chests Anon.

>>723937435
Said no one ever

Didn't expect Assassin Toolsto be my favourite weapon in the game so far

>>723935983
NGB > NG4 > NG2 > NG3RE

I like them all aside from Razor's Edge. That game just looks and feels terrible to me.

I fucking hate these kite niggers

>>723937653
Just throw enemies into them or wall Y after grappling the arena.

>>723935359
Look it up yourself, the modern visuals are worse than the visuals from 360.

>Bloodlines 2 and nuPokeshit RAPED and DISTROYED despite having more players
>NG4 sailing smoothly as expected without much fanfare
How did they do it?

>>723935809
That's because of Kojima. Same for Automata, it was good because of Taro.

>>723937653
Very annoying. You can use shurikens to get them down but still.

>>723937710
Ng 2 black was so bad I felt ripped off nothing like og 2 more like sigma 2

>>723929239
Modern devs can't into edgelord prime, but this isn't totally cringe.

>>723937727
MGR's story was written by some guy on Kojima's team who stayed back at Konami. Also Mikami helped them out on designs and shit.

>>723929239
I like him

>>723929239
>Is he edgelord cringe or edgelord kino?
Too bland to be either.

This game does not have the right to be called NG4. The only "ninja gaiden" things about it are cameos and references and that's being generous.
If this game were instead marketed as a new platinum game and called "shinobi cringe lord: quest to be a huge faggot" No one would blink twice.
you could put a sticker on it saying;
>featuring Ryu from the Ninja Gaiden series, he a appears for 5 frames!

>>723937890
Why does he look like some edgy mook from Cyberpunk 2077?

>>723937931
dont care farnham

>>723929239
pure cringe, to the point where it's weird that he feels strong at all. It's not believable. They should have killed him off in the prologue.

>>723937430
Maybe, Kurumo or whatever looks and acts VERY generic and out of touch. He's very zoomer and very anime. It's a "how do you do fellow kids" type of character.

UT's might make things easier in NG2 but I find it hard to beleive anyone ever used it and found it childs play unless they were standing back and actively avoiding enemies (a valid tactic but then you run from difficulty). I don't see how someone could say NG2 is easy and act like it doesn't challenge the player and test their skill just because of that move, but again, I'm still a pleb.

>>723938227
Tonfa ET alone can almost clear whole rooms, not UT, the ET

This hairbrush is raping her while you do nothing

Should I wait for 4 Sigma

>>723929239
I'm on chapter 9 and can't even remember his name. Kurasu or kankoro or something. He looks korean so japs won't buy it.

You can seriously tell they really didn't give a shit with the characters. Not even enough to make it actually campy. Just the most generic tropes possible as window dressing for the game. In some way I respect it. The devs probably see him as a wire frame.

>>723929239
The game is good enough that you often forget you are playing as him. They should have just went full slop and had you design a create a character generic to self insert as.

I liked the story, it was a little rushed and messy but I found myself invested enough in it.

>>723938364
Anon what the fuck?

Mods

>>723937430
That's bullshit since platinum games are the ones who designed Fagumo and made him so bland and badly written
They're also the ones who chose not to put any effort into ryu, not even bothering to port the vast majority of his moveset or his other weapons.. or give him any real content.

There is absolutely no reason why this game couldn't have let you choose between Ryu or fagimo from the start and play the game all the way through as them.
only it would be a waste of dev time to put Fagumo in the game at that point since no one would choose to play as him.
There's ONE plot contrivance that forces Fagumo for the final boss.
>only a raven clan ninja can defeat the dark dragon
WHY? how does that work tangibly? what's to stop ryu from just killing it? it bleeds. Wouldn't someone from the dragon clan be FAR MORE APPROPRIATE to kill the dark dragon.
Not to mention the dragon is meant to be a spiritual metaphor for power, culture and knowledge not an actual fucking dragon.

Not cool

>>723938256
Sure but that's just one weapon. If the game is easier in general though, just for the UT, then I must not be cut out for being good at these games.

The discussion is fine. Why are retards trying to ban thread

/b/ is here

>>723924702
Wonderful 101 is Platinum's best game thoever

>>723938734
If only mods would just moderate the site and ban the third worlder we'd be good. But nope he has to post that stuff for them to ban, this site is dogshit

>>723933867
it's not UE5 you fucking dipshit ape retard

Goddamn you cretins will just try to find anything to whine and bitch about, even if its completely wrong. Take your fucking meds or better yet just kill yourself

>>723937946
I think you can almost cosplay as him in cyberpunk 2077

>>723938719
Another thing is Ryu would never give the dark dragon blade and gem to a member of a rival clan.

>>723939035
Why not? He wasn't above using the blade of the archfiend on TWO separate occasions

>>723938824
All PBR engines are the same.

>>723939035
didn't genshin from the spider clan give him his own blade to use in NGII (which he returned to his grave at the end of the game) ?

>>723939035
He was honoring his friend's wish. He was probably feeling a bit sentimental, seeing himself in Yakumo.

>>723939110
thanks for confirming my original suspicions, that you're fucking retarded

>>723939035
Actually play the ninja gaiden games.

>>723939096
because it's forbidden to let it fall into the hands of anyone. it's the whole plot of NG1.

>>723939332
Wow you really didn't play the games and are just saying random shit. What country are you from?

>>723939238
Don't care still using phong shading and and achieving frame times measured in μs

>>723939381
It's locked away under the dragon clans protection at the start.
Ryu literally destroys it at the end.

You do not know anything about ninja gaiden.

Imagine

how

>Kasumi in their musou crossover game
>not in NG4
How

>>723939554
I don't think we're talking about the same sword secondary-kun

>2025
>a good remaster
>a good 2D game
>AND a good 3D sequel
somehow this is bad for the series

Did NG 4 remove guardbuffering?

creamy

>>723932401
My 980ti couldn't handle it, waiting on a 5070 to arrive now before I can pick the game back up.

she

must

>>723939790
yes we are. you never played NG1.

be

why did I die like a million times to the wind god boss, it didn't even seem hard he just kept killing me until I went peekaboo mode and I have no idea how you're supposed to attack him while he's hovering

at

VICTOR BORBA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8DxsNVc-xw

does anyone have a link to the Disco Tokyo night club ost

that

Even though the preorder costume for yakumo also looks like shit, it always wear it just because it's slightly more readable

>>723928301
The spins seem to carve off legs pretty reliably, yeah

>>723940074
Shittiest boss so far, at least in Phase 2

>try to do literally anything cool
>lose
>stop trying to use brain and spam izuna drop
>win

does this game fucking suck or what

huh

>>723929239
Cringekino
He feels like I'm reading a mid 2000s fanfic where the author doesn't actually have an idea for their OC's personality past being edgy and mysterious

>>723929239
>We want chinase fujo audience

>>723924702
Hahahahah

yeah

>>723935359
There is supposedly a mod which makes it more xbox-esque

The frog is so fucking rage inducing, any tips?

>>723935983
NGB>=NG2>NG4>NG3RE

>>723934950
>Comparing COVID numbers to prove a point
Basedsfags sure are desperate huh? lol

>>723929239
Cringe. A cringa, if you will. Or a nonja.

>>723929239
I love how his va was clearly trying to make him sound as edgy as possible

She can beat Yakumo

>>723941159
Let him kill the ghost fish then UT with their orbs.

>>723941298
She can beat anyone with a penis

>>723935887
>Dragon Warrior

I guess UT's are piss easy in NG2 if you set it up right, depends on how you play I guess. I want to try to get good at playing such that I can fight heavily crowded areas without doing that, but that demands so much execution, awarness, skill, knowledge, and precision I'm not even sure ANYONES done that. Even this guy effectively camps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdGh1mTWX0
albeit, he's not using UT's or ninpo AT ALL.

>>723936209
It’s on pc game pass if you wanna try it

>>723932931
A mod on Nexus.

>>723940074
Attacking him in the air is no worth it, just dodge and shuriken till he lands

>worst enemy in the game
>does nothing but spit poison or grab
>die easy
wouldnt miss them if they got removed in Sigma 4

>>723941298
Well yeah, she's killed billions

is scoring high especially hard or what?

>>723935651
Get 5 berserk kills with Yatousen. Description is misleading.

>>723924272 (OP)
this game has even less combo strings than NG1.
enemies are fucking damage sponges like sigma 2 aswell.

anyone who says this shallow watered down garbage is anything other than complete shit is a fucking shill.

>>723935927
dude, wallcling xxx series on DS alone like delimbs a ton of enemies and does hella damage in general, (on land x->y, izuna, yyy, etc are good too) it's easy to get 2 kills, and once you do it's UT fiesta unless the game bugs out and you UT whiffs (for the record for the uninitiated posers - your UT can whiff even if you land the first hit properly because fuck you)

>>723935983
NG1 ≥ NG4/NG3RE > NG2
NG2 is the last because all new non human enemies are ass and I hate them, some encounters are garbage too like spamming a room with vangelf or lycans only, such a chore, bow sucks too because regular shot doesnt stun big guys

>>723943264
I fucked you dad in the ass once, he loved it

>>723935983
NG2=NG1>NG3RE>>>dogshit>NG yaiba = NG4