Thread 724026465

So what's up with Vanillaware refusing to do PC ports?
Is there legal issues or just a result of oldschool Japanese dev spite?

it would be dishonorable to not show loyalty to sony
they will now perform the suck job

>>724026465 (OP)
>just a result of oldschool Japanese dev spite
It's this, they're worried pc players will be able to datamine their game and unveil their assets and secrets.

spite
if a game is on xbox and not windows, the answer is spite

they never revealed the reason
my only guess is that they're afraid of PC modding or some shit

>>724026465 (OP)
the head of vanillaware hates pc for some reason
just emulate

>>724026628
That's kinda dumb

>>724026465 (OP)
>result of oldschool Japanese dev spite
This
It took Sega acquiring ATLUS to see the dollar signs for porting shit, and even then it took several YEARS since P4G got ported for PC ports on release to be the standard
It took DaS for Bamco to even get an INKLING to start having PC ports common place for anything else they published
I don't remember what made Capcom start actually porting their shit after DMC4

>>724026465 (OP)
Windows is garbage for gaming now.
Vanillaware is also an artfag company so they probably all use Mac, which is worse than Windows somehow.

>>724026784
Even funnier is ATLUS themselves offered to help and fund Vanillaware PC Ports but they flat out denied that shit
They absolutely despise the idea to the point where even if it's free money they refuse

>>724026465 (OP)
Does anyone know where I can pirate the US version of Unicorn Overlord for PS4? I wanted to emulate that version instead of the switch one.

>>724026784
It was Monster Hunter World methinks.

>>724026465 (OP)
It works great on ShadPS4

>>724027279
heh, shad

>>724026784
Don't forget it took PlayStation as a "brand" being splintered off to Commiefornia to subvert SIE/Japan Studio for anything snoy to get a PC port, and even then anything originally japanese is still not ported
Imperialism and greed unironically is what pushed for quality PC ports unlike the 30FPS locked garbage

>>724026784
Keep in mind we have a massive petition lead by based totalbiscuit to even get DaS ported. Players stood up for once and ushered in the wave of almost all games coming to PC.

And now Vanillaware is virtually the very last developer who hasn't put their games on PC.

>>724026465 (OP)
Rather than spite I think they're just ignorant. Japs have been really slow on figuring out Steam. A bunch of them still shadowdrop games on there and then wonder why they did poorly.

>>724027279
huh, where do you even get digital PS4 releases for emulation?
the only site I know that has them are for physical releases

>>724027615
It's spite. Atlus said they would port it for them, that's like your boss saying he'll do work for you and pay you for it and then you saying no.

>>724026779
I would tho.

>>724027615
You're correct normally
But VW's case is definitely spite, considering they had full funding and assistance offered by Atlus yet they turned it down

>>724027667
NTA but here. I was>>724027165 and I couldn't' find that version anywhere, pretty annoying.
https://dlpsgame.com/dragons-crown-pro-ps4-download-free/

>>724026465 (OP)
I have this game on ps4 and vita and lemme tell you, while it looks pretty its actually not very good. The diablo loot alone absolutely ruins it, all these bolted on padding ruining the game is a consistent theme with vanillaware. Like this shit isn't even 10% as fun to play as ddsom.

what did they mean by this

>>724027490
Well, Japan Studio was developing games on BSD according to some interview.

Vanillaware has been gambling with their entire company with each new game release, starting with at least Dragon's Crown. Kamitani won't put their games on PC because that surplus profitability might cause them to lose their edge

>>724027995
>Fantasy Earth Zero[c] was a 2006 massively multiplayer online role-playing game developed for Microsoft Windows. Originally developed by Puraguru (now known as Vanillaware) and Multiterm under the title Fantasy Earth: The Ring of Dominion,[d] it was released by Square Enix as a paid product through its PlayOnline service. It relaunched under Gamepot as a free game, and was later handled by developers SoftGear and Ocean Frontier and was transferred back to Square Enix. Under the premise of a world where rival kingdoms engage in frequent conflicts, players choose an allied kingdom and fight against each other in groups of up to fifty players. The game closed down in September 2022.
what the fuck

>>724027979
But the looting is fun though
I can't talk about their newer games since I haven't tried them yet but Dragon's Crown is just a solid good game all around

>>724027979
shit taste, game is just fun to play

>>724027979
The looting's fine, except that playing with others online is better than playing local multiplayer when it comes to loot.

>>724028127
Unicorn Overlord is already soulless

>>724026465 (OP)
Probably just a lot of oldheads at the studio who don't like piracy. They think if they don't make a PC version it will stop it. Lol. Still, if they released all their old games on Steam at their original prices I'd buy them in a heartbeat

>>724028576
i wouldn't buy odins sphere again since i have lefitrer or whatever the ps4 rerelease is but i'd spend like 100 bucks on dragons crown

>>724027598
>>724027817
The 2k texture pack looks like shit, pure ai upscale sloppa

>>724028576
big....

>>724028576
This is a child BTW

>>724028669
the 2k one was drawn by human hands while kevlah's was AI and is much better

robots win again

>>724028753
Go back to bed, Schreier

>>724026465 (OP)
They're afraid you broke retards would just pirate it, and they're right.

>>724028883
They can use denuvo and we're pirating the console versions to emulate anyway.

>>724028771
Why bother with the inferior version when Rebirth exist?

>>724028771
How do these compare to the Dangerism one I downloaded some years back?

>>724027979
Nobody cares about your dogshit opinions on games you don't play, mentally ill troon

>>724029156
rebirth came out years later

>>724029374
I don't know

>>724028576
Same. I haven't played Odin Sphere or Dragon's Crown since they first released, and even though I enjoyed them back then, I don't care enough to bother emulating them.
If they just gave us Steam ports with halfway decent optimization I would happily spend my hard-earned US dollars to play them again though.

>>724026465 (OP)
Fuck PC ports, where's my Muramasa PS4 port?

>>724026465 (OP)
At lest their games are notoriously easy to emulate.
Like even a toaster can emulate a Vanilaware game on emulators that usually require decent gaming PC.

>>724029665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70B8tEGpZLY
Really is a shame Vanillaware won't at least rerelease the game themselves on something in 4K

>>724026465 (OP)
Doesn't matter, pc gamers will just pirate anyways

>>724028938
In my defense I actually own Dragon's Crown Pro, I just wanted to play it on my PC too because my PC is where I get stoned and have all my beat 'em ups. Do you know how good it feels to play a level or two of Dragon's Crown and then immediately start Gauntlet Dark Legacy seconds later? Very good

>>724027817
The 4k and HD mod sprite looks awful, ruined Kamitani's style

>>724030447
you still play gauntlet? my nigga

>>724026465 (OP)
George himself doesn't do ports. He makes a game and then immediately moves onto the next one. The ports are handled by a secondary team (the people not working on George's next game). And it's up to Vanillaware management and publishers when and where they port it.
>>724028771
>>724027598
Holy shit this looks like crap. Even in the original you can tell she's not frowning or has as big of a mouth as that. The eyes are also completely ruined.

>>724030775
yeah no take your battle elsewhere

not every game needs to be available for every platform

>>724030997
*laughs in pc*

>>724030447
>>724030786
>Do you know how good it feels to play a level or two of Dragon's Crown and then immediately start Gauntlet Dark Legacy seconds later?

It's downright depressing how they've treated this game. Wii and Vita only. Why.

>>724026465 (OP)
they've said they're afraid of people modding their games.

>>724026779
old japanese people are fucking retarded

>>724031961
no they haven't

>>724032080
learn to read niggerlips

>>724028576
It's more likely who's publishing the games. Dragon's Crown is a good example. It took them 15 years to get a publisher to actually get attached to it. And if the publisher says "we want it on Sony platforms but not PC" they have to do it. Plus Sony often pays some of the dev cost if you put games on their system.

>>724032041
yep, basically why Japan is dying.

>>724032041
Not as retarded as old American and European people. "Sure, come on in and take over my country. I'll even give you a place to stay and free money!"

The Vanillaware CEO fucking hates PC because Windows molested him back in the 90s. They're also AA budget japanese games so they can sustain off just staying console exclusive and appealing to their core japanese audience--no need to "grow"

I still want to smack whoever at Vanilla thought it'd be a great idea to make Dragon's Crown only co-op locally, until you beat the game. *Then* you can play online.

>>724033297
>conservatard escaped /pol/ containment again
gas chambers for all chuds. burn the bodies.

>>724027598
What is this deviant art level garbage

Vanillaware, M2 Shottriggers, and Bloodborne were all I ever wanted to play on PS4. The fact that Sony's AAA slop got ported over but the only games I specifically wanted never were feels like some kind of personal cosmic slight. But joke's on you demiurge, I can emulate all of it now.

>>724033356
>only co-op locally, until you beat the game
It's been forever, but I remember on the PS3/4 releases getting access to online coop after you start your hunt for the seven or so macguffins and unlock the B routes for maps

>>724033297
true

>>724028376
But the end result of having progression tied to stats (and having the game dynamically scale to that anyways) makes the game itself way too easy and boring, so rather than a cool ass arcade game to learn its pretty much just endless grinding to see numbers go up. It just sucks. It superficially appears to be the game, but ultimately its just crap.

It's not gonna matter. Piracy always wins. They can't stop it from happening, no matter how much they want to.

>>724033356
I don't remember the exact time. But I know you could do online pretty darn quick. I actually wanted to avoid online until I unlocked and tried everything myself. But the game kept reminding me (annoyingly) to try multiplayer long before I unlocked everything. And then some routes were easier online than locally. Because if you play an Elf you can just let all the Sorceresses and Amazons be a distraction while you get all the kills.

>>724031035
literally not true pc vegan faggot

>>724027598
>Vanillaware is virtually the very last developer who hasn't put their games on PC
and they shouldn't, you niggers don't deserve it and would likely just pirate it if it was. They gain nothing by doing this, what little profit they could gain isn't worth it in the long run.

>>724028883
This, and then PCfags brag like they're hot shit or something, fuck all of them.

>>724034737
>they gain nothing by making millions selling to an audience
Can you explain why you're sperging out?

>>724032041
wasn't there some thing with a character in a yakuza game had to be removed because his talent agency was run by completely insane boomers who banned their actors from doing anything on the internet? like a photo from an interview could be printed in a newspaper but the same article wasn't allowed to be published in the online version of the paper.

>>724028771
tainting vanillaware art with slop should be a crime.

>>724035202
meds

>>724035616
keeeeeeeeek they do be like that tho

>>724035751
It do be like dat Mr. Stancil!

>>724026465 (OP)
Use a PS3 emulator for Dragon's Crown on PC
ez

>>724026465 (OP)
Vanillaware for some reason has hate boner for PC. Anyhow you can just play Dragon's Crown using RPCS3, works even online.

>>724034154
I think it's pointless myself. Also it gets in the way when you're playing local multiplayer when people have to take turns gearing up. But in the end, it gets more people involved and staying interested in the game in the long run, so I'm okay with it.

>>724026784
capcom sadly has always done pc releases, they were just subpar until dmc4 made demand more obvious.

>>724036654
I think they could have made a timeless classic had they not done it, but now it's merely a pretty mediocre curiosity remembered for its art now instead, like all vanillaware games, and following this they went further and further into making glorified VNs.

>>724026784
If studios weren’t tracking LoL and vidya streaming metrics it only makes sense they would underestimate the market share on PC

>>724026465 (OP)
They should port Muramasa to PS5 and not PC just to fuck with them further.

>>724026532
The only game that's actually locked to Sony is Muramasa Rebirth, and that's because Sony's contract for Vita third-parties was draconic in nature. It's essentially locked to the platform for life unless Vanillaware wants to buy back the publishing rights for that specific version of the game.

>>724031548
Just emulate it?

>blatantly lies to fans
lole

>>724037396
So they just threw the code in the garbage.

>>724037396
>fans
if they were real fans they would have already played the games

>>724028576
lolicon fantasy

>>724036932
13 Sentinels is pretty good.

>>724033710
>not just buying a PS4

>>724037385
I have but lots of others will never play it. Also those platforms both have low res textures and the art is gorgeous.

>>724036932
I haven't played Unicorn yet, but I enjoyed 13 Sentinels for what it was. Sadly, it was easy as fuck. I didn't die a single time on hard mode, and I've heard Unicorn Overlord is even easier. Muramasa and the Odin Sphere remake have challenging high difficulty modes and Dragon's Crown has some good spiraling difficulty later on. It's a shame Vanillaware decided to completely abandon any sort of challenging gameplay. Also, Dragon's Crown likely has, for better or worse, a bigger fanbase than almost any classic beat 'em up.

>>724026784
>I don't remember what made Capcom start actually porting their shit after DMC4
Capcom actually had PC ports since the 80s, but the in-house stuff only really began during the 90s with Windows 95/98. Same with Sega, Konami, hell even Square Soft put FF7 and FF8 on Windows 98. The problem was that these ports weren't as good as the console versions, nor did they make as much in sales despite PC development having a lot of extra bullshit to deal with back then, so when you see the big ass gap in Japanese companies releasing things on PC on the regular it's more likely that they didn't want to get burned again after failing in the past.

Vagrant getting shit canned is honestly such a fucking shame.
It looked pretty sick and the story was much darker than the usual Vanillaware narrative.
I think to me that kind of hurts more than not getting a PC port of their classics.
I already have their games on other consoles. Not having them on PC really sucks, because I WOULD buy them, but I guess they're jaded. Too set in their ways to change now.
That's a real shame. But who fucking knows. Maybe they say fuck it and port it all before they retire. It would be pretty fucking dumb not to do it, if only just for the profit.

>>724026465 (OP)
I remember reading they were going broke and could barely port there games to other systems or something.

>>724032115
I can, any basic fucking retard can. Do you have issues reading lips?

>>724038687
Total bullshit.
Vanillaware as a studio is the only thing that stopped Atlus from publishing on PC.
Fatlus WANTED to port Vanillaware games to PC like they ported Persona games, but Vanillaware said "NO."
And here we are.

>>724037682
>Also, Dragon's Crown likely has, for better or worse, a bigger fanbase than almost any classic beat 'em up.
People say stuff like this, but games like this basically die with their generation. No one is going to care about it 20 years from now.

>>724026465 (OP)
no money in it

>>724037605
Correct. I did not.

>>724026784
>>It took Sega acquiring ATLUS to see the dollar signs for porting shit, and even then it took several YEARS since P4G got ported for PC ports on release to be the standard
Sega doesn't port shit if its not Sonic. That's ALTUS's games, they can do whatever the fuck they want. The Phantasy Star Online spinoffs games are still on original hardware or unlocalized. Most of the Shining Force games are still on original hardware or unlocalized. The other Valkyria Chronicles games are still on original hardware. Fucking Sakrua Wars 6 is PS4 only and don't get me started on the rest of the series and if something is ported to the PC, its Japanese only. Sega is one of the worst examples you could compare them to. They don't give 2 shits about the west or the PC market. Its easier to say they hate your guts than to port their games.

>>724039275
That's bullshit and you know it.
I know for a fact I would buy DCP and OSL

https://gbatemp.net/threads/muramasa-rebirth-ps-vita-hd-textures-project.646279/
does anyone know of a better texture pack for the psp version? The eyes for the dlc catgirl are fucked

>>724043270
forgot pic
wish i knew photoshop to fix it, this shit triggers my autism so much

>>724043270
I recall, either on that thread or around somewhere esle, that a chinese guy made better HD textures but locked them behind either a paywall site or just the usual chinese site that needs a password. Sucks..

>>724027598
>based totalbiscuit to even get DaS ported
total asscancer didn't do fuck all except die a faggot

>>724026465 (OP)
They should make a H game instead

>>724043430
if i remember correctly the chink one has ugly seams where backgrounds are connected. This one is good except that detail

This thread reminds me I bought odin's sphere and dragon's crown remastered for the PS4 that I never did buy.
I played DC on the original PS3 and Muramasa on the vita.

>>724043502
You're an autist. It was literally all him.

>>724039043
DC was originally released a dozen years and two gens ago, and it's still wildly popular and people still clamor for it to be brought to PC. Will it be as popular in 12 years? We'll have to see.

>>724043270
There is no PSP version. You're thinking vita. Also

>>724043341
>AI
Not even once.

>>724026465 (OP)
porting isn't an automatic process, takes time and effort. Even lending the job to 3rd parties requires oversight, and no guarantee they'll do it right (Risk of Rain 2 is a prime example of that).

They already tried releasing on other platforms and were faced with issues. With Sony they have a familiar & proven pipeline, no reason to deviate. Clearly they don't want to massively expand their studio, and despite occasional money problems they managed to survive and arguably thrive (last 2 games were passion projects) for decades. It's that simple really.