Thread 724035675

Nothing will come this close ever again

Why can grenades, melee, and vehicles just not be good and fun in any other fps?

>>724036464
Battlefield is pretty good with that in multiplayer

>>724035675 (OP)
Lol maybe for retards who play FPS on controller

Play some real games kiddo

>>724036464
nothing feels as rewarding as hitting someone with a sticky grenade, just seeing it connect the with cunt's skull is magical

Halo was never good.

>>724036603
>mindlessly clicking the entire screen
and Halo is the game for retards?

>>724035675 (OP)
That's not Command and Conquer: Renegade

The main problem with modern shooters is that all of them are now either for e-sports autists or for mil-sim autists.

No one is making games with flair. There are all sorts of little details in the first three Halo games that are deeply memorable, like how the different enemy types reacted to getting stuck with a plasma grenade.

No one puts that much effort into the little things anymore, it's graphical fidelity but no passion. Back in the day even the not so great shooters like Killzone had a distinct flair to them.

>>724036532
What separates halo is that grenades are actually used in gunfights. You'll die in BF if you throw a grenade that isn't preemptive because you can kill anyone with a rifle in .023 seconds. There's nothing else like Halo where you get the angle just right and completely tip the fight in your favor with a well placed grenade that just bounces and lands right.

>>724036603
>maybe for retards
sooo...every fps ever made than?

>wow, look at me using my big brain to play le pc fps!
They really think this

>>724035675 (OP)
Half-Life and Doom are better.

Arbiter gay sex overshadowed all this.

>>724037075
lol half life is ass

>>724037042
This looks 50x more fun and engaging than whatever this is

>>724037102
Holy based

>>724035675 (OP)
counter-strike

>>724035675 (OP)
Game is shit
>but muh weapon sandbox
The game is not that fucking deep nigga. So sick of people thinking they have 9000 iq for doing basic target priority

>>724035675 (OP)
I remember when I first played halo. For some reason my family had brought our whole ass xbox on vacation, and while my dad haggled with a local pizza joint for a discount me and my old bro were figuring out how to play CE, since we'd played golden eye before that and had to get used to the controls.

We reached the flood levels that night. And got yelled out for getting scared.

Our dad then tried to play, and was visibly sweating when he had to creep through the levels and eventually said "Don't play this shit at night"

Fun times

>>724036782
HIGH IQ OCTANE GAMEPLAY HERE

>>724037306
The game tends not to be fun when you cannot manage to aim at the enemy.

>>724037306
you can just tell how good this feels

Nobody should be playing an fps because it's high iq unless it's some old rainbow six or mil sim. I dont know how pc nerds got off thinking pc fps's were smart or hardcore games. I've played them all. They're dumb as bricks.

>>724037595
skill issue much? kek

>>724037306
The AR melee is one of the most satisfying things in gaming

brain damaged gaylo cucks will really tell you with a straight face that this looks fun and doesn't get boring within 5 minutes

>>724035675 (OP)
lol, lmao even

>>724037765
Because people who enjoy halo deserve to be shat on. The game just isnt fun and the only reason they think it is, is because the xbox shooter library is non existent.

>>724037937
Why is this game's ai better than modern games?

>>724037978
You have trump derangement syndrome

>>724037306
This looks slow and boring, why do Halofags try to fight battles they can't win overstaying in their own lane.

>>724037937
When the remake improves this poor ass level design, Halofags will rage out like tards.

>>724038065
What the fuck does orange retard have to do with this?

>>724037937
All you need is a numbered ammo count on a gun and that's good enough for me

>>724037978
This is true, when you play other shooters other than Halo, you can no longer go back to Halo.

>IT ISN'T FUN IT J-JUST ISNT UGHHHH
btw have you played FEAR! The best fps ever made!

>>724038293
post of clip of Halo looking just as fun as this. It's impossible.

>>724037552
>Playing on easy mode


Halo is the greatest FPS 1-3 have incredible gameplay and the story is kino as fuck. Visuals and lore were always cool. This game defined an era. No one important gives a fuck about any of the other games people are trying to compare to it in this thread.

>>724038465
Looks fun as hell. Also, the Combine in Half-Life 2 shits on Halo's Elite AI. Elites are overrated.

>>724038465
Your clip has one enemy type that all die in one shot. Anything you do extra is by definition suboptimal tryhard montage cringe gameplay. In Halo you melee the jackal because he's up close, you stick the elite because he has high health and quicker to take him down, you switch to the pistol to deal with ranged threats. Already more depth in 5 seconds of gameplay than you'll find in the entirety of playing FEAR. But i'm supposed to believe Halo is retard fps gameplay but muh pc fps is hardcore and le intelligent, because why!? lol. It's point and click slop.

>>724035675 (OP)
Halo was the beginning of the end of the FPS genre. It introduced shit like regenerating shields/health, 2 weapon limit, extremely slow movement, aim assist, bullet magnetism, etc. and most of those things still plague FPS games to this day, because everything needs to cater to console retards.

Simple as.

>>724036464
Other games can do vehicles I think, but the melee and grenades are only possible in Halo due to the high TTK. If your gun kills in under half a second then the only way to make melee and grenades not completely worthless is to make them instant kill. Even then melee is generally not good due to the limited range and with grenades also being AoE, in order to make them not overshadow normal guns or to encourage cheesy cross-kill strategies they often have a delay to throwing and/or detonating, which often makes them still bad for anything than tossing out over walls or the like into the vague area of the enemy spawn to get a lucky kill or in the very rare instance there's a hard-camper in your lobby.

>>724038607
>This game defined an era
Halo defined nothing, Nintendo, Sony, and PC gaming defined 6th generation, people only remembered Halo for its garbage multiplayer. 7th gen, it got astroturfed but it was overshadowed by COD, Bioshock, Mass Effect, and others, I was more interested in GTA IV, FF13, and MGS4 over Halo 3, I was more worried it was going to suck after Halo 2's campaign. Honestly wish we got Beyond Good and Evil 2 and Dirty Harry over Halo 3, I was even more excited for Sonic 06 until it released. The Wii had more attention than Halo.

>>724038732
Looks fun as hell. Also, the Covenant shit on Half Life and FEAR AI.

>>724038607
>This game defined an era.
It only "defined an era" if you were a retarded young american who had no prior experience with any kind of video games or FPS games.

>>724036464
battlefield and ut2k4/3 are great but the vehicles feel gimmicky and poorly implemented compared to halo. they feel like they run different physics parameters to the rest of the game, and even between different vehicles. halo vehicles all feel perfectly consistent with all player and prop physics.

>>724038764
Other's following Halo is not Halo's fault, it was their own decision

>>724038732
Guys, this looks...good. srs

>>724038000
People used to design encounters because you had to instead of buying "enemy AI" from the asset store, placing the enemies and hoping for the best.

>>724038732
le grenade sticking to an enemy is considered LE FUN and AMAZING PINACLE OF FPS GAMEPLAY!!

>suboptimal tryhard montage cringe gameplay

You can't do anything flashy or fun in halo so you cope with this, sad! No wonder your FEAR gameplay looks so bland. Halo is for retards for zero creativity designed for controller slop to be consumed by mexicans and blacks.

>>724037042
I love Painkiller but come on man. This WebM sucks.


>Enemies all run directly at you with no self preservation. Their only move is melee attack.

>>724038847
>Tendie trying to shill garbage games for 12 year olds

war never changes

You're dumb as fuck if you think it didnt define an era. All the way up into Reach it was one of the most popular game franchises in the entire world. It was more popular than CoD at one point.

>>724038610
lol it doesn't matter how better the AI in hl2 is when the enemies die too quickly and the level design barely takes advantage to do anything interesting with it AI

>>724039034
You didn't argue against any of the points in the webm. Discredit any of his arguments against FEAR. Went into a hissy. He won.

>>724038773
What other games around the time did vehicles as well as Halo, like being serious I want to know, vehicles and the allied NPCs is what got me into Halo and it also happened to do a lot of shit I liked too

>>724039034
here's your creativity bro. so flash

>>724035675 (OP)
>The baby's first fps ever
fixed.

Is this ever?

>>724035675 (OP)
But the amount of butthurt it caused fat lonely dweebs will live on forever.

>>724039154
>>724038465
this looks lame are these cherrypicked to be bad

What's getting announced today?

>>724039069
Mario Galaxy was more exciting than Halo 3, along with Smash Brawl. If the PS5 didn't cost $500-$600, it would have shitted all over the 360. The Xbox 360 had more and better games than Halo. People suck this overrated ass series off because starting in 2009, there was barely any games so Halo was the only one still there along with COD so we ended up having these piles of shit "define" the 7th gen. The Orange Box was even a better deal than Halo.

>>724038847
Halo was the first massive online sensation for consoles. It birthed online console gaming as a mainstream genre.

Does she?

>>724038610
>the Combine in Half-Life 2 shits on Halo's Elite A

>>724036603
Easily mogged by Next Encounter

>>724039103
Halo's enemies being boring ass sponges is another reason why it sucks.

I like playing Infinite MP a lot, like a lot, kinda don't like when guys straight up feel like cheaters but even then I still find enjoyment in that.

Isn't was the she a bit too think it was so

>>724039123
arguing about your game having more mechanical depth when you can beat it on a controller is hilarious

>>724039259
Are you mad because nintendo has no good FPS or what dude. There's no disproving my statement with your braindead opinion. Nintentrannies love to shill their fischer price leap pad game consoles as much as possible huh.

>>724039310
Any good fps has enemies that dont die in 2 shots. Play COD.

>ACpedo is a Halotranny
Who knew

>>724039291
Halo's AI sucks ass

If they ever bring back 4tana's design verbatim in Halo 6 I will literally buy a copy for every anon in this thread.

>>724039263
>>724039205
MODS

GET THAT FAGGOT ASS CHILD PORN OUTTA HERE

>>724039340
All games in this thread are on consoles and can be beaten with a controller by anyone not handicapped.

>>724037102
This. Portal mogs any Half Life.

>>724039360
No, but I'm tired of you Halo faggots coming out of the wood works acting like your game is better than anything released on a PC, Nintendo console, Sega console, or PlayStation console. You retarded Xbots really want to be remembered but all anyone remembers you for is how you suck off the company that screwed up gaming.

>>724039069
>You're dumb as fuck if you think it didnt define an era
If we're talking single-player, then:
>Halo: CE was completely overshadowed by Half-Life releasing 3 years prior.
>Halo 2 was completely overshadowed by Half-Life 2 releasing the same year.
>Halo 3 was completely overshadowed by Bioshock releasing the same year.

If we're talking multiplayer, then all of these games were out prior and were vastly superior to Halo 1 in every way:
>Quake 3, CS, UT99, HLDM, RtCW, GoldenEye 007, Rainbow Six, Tribes 1 + 2, Team Fortress Classic, Medal of Honor, SWAT 3, etc.

>>724039431
Halo was literally designed from the ground up to be played on a controller.

>>724039421
Infinite is Halo 6 you reddit nimrod

>>724039496
Jokes on you Halo is the only game I ever actually played on Xbox. Otherwise I owned a PS3, Then a PC/PS4/Switch combo. Doesnt stop it from being an era defining franchise and an excellent game that checks all the boxes.

>>724039248
he's been spamming that webm and seething over people not liking his boring ass console slop since 2022

The gameplay is good, but the level design is appalling beyond the first three or so missions. The Flood sections are almost unplayable.

>>724039585
>era defining franchise
Literally no one gave a fuck about Halo except retarded american children. There's a reason why Xbox and Halo never sold outside of the US.

>>724039516
No one gives a fuck about literally any of those games except maybe quake and golden eye buddy..... Especially Bioshock are you actually retarded?

>>724039363
Halo is a slow ass piece of shit of a game, its enemies dragging on before death is just another reason it sucks. Game can barely even do boss fights right. Was Halo even made to be a video game? It feels amateurish. Well, it was made by Bungie who were trying to larp as id on Mac so.

>>724039623
Two Betrayals is one of the best levels though, infighting is always good

>>724039665
name your top 5 fps games

>>724039414
Compared to HL2s? No way. Combine soldiers are stupid as fuck even compared to their human grunt counterparts in the first game.

>>724039641
Thats funny because it Topped charts in Japan, Australia, France, And many different parts of europe. Are you some poor little brownoid that couldnt afford an Xbox and Halo?

>>724039659
you weren't there, but because you're so huge on only knowing halo, that's not shocking to us either

>>724037042
This is ironic because if you put it next to a halo webm it'll still be 4x faster even though you're playing on easy

Halo was fun with friends.
You spring chicks with your swesty competitive ranked online just wouldn't understand.

Also I really liked the world design and lore in classic Halo.

>>724039659
>No one gives a fuck about literally any of those games
Alright, you're just exposing yourself for having been a child back then whose first FPS game was Halo.

>>724039585
Dude, I'm American and your piece of shit wasn't even well liked here except butt buddy faggots wanting it for the multiplayer, everyone shitted on the campaign which wasn't liked since CE, and was only liked for the multiplayer. Shit even stopped getting game awards after the first game here, lol. There was a reason Halo started falling off when COD4 came, it was a trend, nothing more.

>>724039762
I own all of the games you mentioned btw brownoid. Sorry you just dont get it and have bad taste.

>>724039756
>Are you some poor little brownoid that couldnt afford an Xbox and Halo?
What the fuck are you talking about? It was poor brownoids who played Halo, because they couldn't afford an actual PC and real internet. What is this revisionism?

>>724035675 (OP)
I still rate Doom higher but Halo's still really fucking good. Having unique enemies that behave in different ways and the usefulness of your weapons changes based on range/map/enemies/etc, love it. Just have to remember to always be moving forward and don't get your ass turned around

>>724039735
Combine soldier will chase you and if block a door, they will shoot you through a window, Elites can't do something like that, they're simple.

Halo fags post a WEBM of the game looking fun to play
You can't. The most fun aspect of your shitty game is meeleing an enemy and throwing grenades kek

>>724039848
Every house had a pc by default. It's consoles that poors cant afford.

>>724039143
I don't really know any of the top of my head, but I also haven't played every FPS out there. Even if there isn't any games currently that do them as well as Halo, my point is it is possible for them to do so, whereas the number that can have shooting, melee and grenades all co-exist and compliment each other the way they do in Halo is incredibly limited amongst pure FPS games due to a fundamental gameplay issue.
>>724039310
Which bullet sponges are in Halo?

>>724039718
Duke Nukem 3D
Hexen II
Blood
Doom
Half-Life

>>724039803
Fucked up when you said "Im American" and then said the game wasn't liked in America where it still has a huge fanbase. Where's bioshocks books? TV shows? Movies? Where's its 4th,5th, and 6th games????

gaylo reacharound

>>724037306
>enemies strafing and attempting to dodge
Is that why Quakeboomers hated Halo so much?

>>724039929
could you be anymore npc?

>>724039916
>Every house had a pc by default. It's consoles that poors cant afford.
Every house had a PC that could run video games properly in 2001? The vast majority of USA didn't even have fucking internet in 2001. You were clearly a child back then and have no clue.

>>724039981
Easily, I could've said Halo or Call of Duty or some other console trash.

>>724039969
Imagine how much more boring Halo would be if they didn't have that.

>>724039929
all shit and boring

>>724040089
taking out one aspect of Elite AI doesn't make the Covenant any less fun to fight.

>>724039969
What's the point of strafing enemies if the game gives you aim assist and bullet magnetism anyway?

>>724039943
Actual burger here. Everyone had halo. I was in some poor section 8 housing units growing up, and all my friends had copies of halo 2. I ended up with 3 copies somehow, and I don't remember actually saving up to buy the damn game. The boys got together and ran a 4-man co-op on Halo 3 release day. He must have been that weird kid who only played PS3 games.

>>724039925
Elites and Brutes, sometimes Jackals too

>>724039943
Where did I fuck up at, I was around for Halo 1-3, your series was overrated here. If the PS3 was the same price as the 360, Sony would have killed the Xbox the same way they killed the Dreamcast, they got lucky. You Xbots aren't real gamers and you only brought Crackdown just for Halo 3 MP, that was it. Halo did well because dudebros needed their online multiplayer, that's it.
>Where's bioshocks books? TV shows? Movies? Where's its 4th,5th, and 6th games????
It didn't need it. Why does Halo even need or have all of this shit, isn't it supposed to be a video game?

>>724039969
Unreal already had those in 1998.

>>724039883
Elites definitely chase in Halo. They don't reposition to windows to shoot if they can't reach you though I think but that might be because there isn't really the opportunity for something like that to occur in most levels.

Come home white man

>>724036464
The thing about Halo is that it has a great sense of flow. Even with sprinting in later games, all the characters move at a solid pace, smooth and easy, and combat still remains about outmaneuvering someone to maximize your guns and grenades for efficiency. Vehicles are the extra sense of spice and scale that always have some means to counter them if you know what you're doing, and can always be turned on a hapless idiot with a hijacking. Call of Duty? Slide and dolphin dive spam with auto-lock ADS snapping that's about killing someone in less than a second. Titanfall 2? Great movement but the instant you stop moving, you're probably dead, and the same rules apply to Tribes, with high skill ceilings and punishing consequences at the lows. Battlefield fell to the CoD spam, and vehicles can stomp entire fields which requires people spawning with counters to hope to undo the damage, etc.

Even if I have my quibbles with some of the later games certainly, no other shooter in the industry is about as even as Halo was. And for the comp scene players 5 amped that shit up on crack without being retarded like the Advanced Movement era of CoD, though it kinda fucked up the social casual play.

>>724040239
>Elites
Die in 2 shots
>Brutes
Die in 4 shots
>Jackals
Die in 2 shots

>>724040268
Because Bungie couldn't program it with their broken code.

>>724039929
>Actual boomer
lmaooooooooooo. not even a single shooter from the 21st century. you're either a massive faggot poser or an old decrepit retard who's never tried to actually broaden his horizons and dismisses any game that he didn't play during middle school as "shit"

you're the equivalent of people who say "all movies/music these days is shit" while making no active effort to actually find artists or films you like

>>724040294
>white man
>Halo
Yeah, no. It was all spics.

>>724040305
>needs to cheese the game to do this

>>724040134
Try playing a wad that isn't for babies. Retail is the tutorial, and even then unlike Halo its a real video game because its designed to be played for time, instead of being an "interactive experience".

And when people say Halo has a bunch of different enemy types, well, that's wrong. Enemy design in halo is extremely functionally limited and demands very little of the player. Dodging is actually limiting and this regard and part of why Unreal was a huge boring cinematic pile of shit.

nu/v/ needs to stop sucking ass at video games, these threads are seriously boring.

>>724040294
>Turned High Charity's centre into a random ass looking city with generic boxy highrises that look like background art from Deus Ex or Perfect Dark

The one thing I hate about the remaster for 2

>>724040378
>Playing the game properly is cheesing

>>724040351
Halo was THE dudebro game, you brown fuck.

>>724040413
You have nostalgia brain, the original doesn't look that much better.

>>724035675 (OP)
>Sip
A'yup. That's some good gaming right there.

>>724040438
>no u r brown
Wow, very compelling argument. There's even a poor dude who said him and all his poor friends played Halo here >>724040223

>>724040341
Gaming in general peaked in the 90's. FPS games got hit harder than most by the dumbing down effects of consoleization though.

>>724040485
Critters ain't biting today.

>>724038773
Finally, someone else who understands my high TTK shooter withdrawal.

I really tried giving Halo a chance, it's fucking boring. I'm tired of the nostalgia and gaslighting, every other FPS game from the same time period isn't a snoozefest like Halo with it's bullet sponge enemies and using the same two fucking guns all game.
The MP looks fun but the campaign is a fucking snoozefest, and people only like it because Halo has cool lore and aesthetic.

>>724040567
>and people only like it because Halo has cool lore and aesthetic.
You forgot to add that people only like it because it was their first introduction to FPS games, and for some, also online gaming entirely.

>>724040239
It has it because the game was actually popular Rajeet/Ernesto/Jabari. I can tell by the way you're typing that you're not actually american BTW.

>>724040567
>aesthetic
Top aesthetics, love that shit

>>724040567
You played halo co-op with your friends who were over your house split-screen.

Yes the campaign was boring, kind of like how call of duty campaigns are boring, nobody is playing them its just something to entertain you until your friends are ready on xbox live.

>>724040534
Get that beer robot over here, I need more piss water.

>>724040493
Yeah, I was poor. But even my richfag friends had it too. I remember getting to play Halo 2 online for the first time at one of my buddy's houses. Was fucking crazy.
White btw. Whites can be poor too.

>>724040518
Posting terrible games isn't helping your argument. Its pretty much doom, quake, and garbage. Duke was pretty much the canary in the coal mine for crap like Halo.

>>724040463
I prefer H2A for the most part but you're on crack if you think this looks worse in terms of composition and aesthetics. The Anniversary version looks like a generic Cyberpunk city. It doesn't look alien, and has 0 resemblance to the aesthetic found in the level you're playing in. The Keyship is also obscurbed by all the random fucking buildings.

>>724040567
Back in my day they used to call this need for instant stimuli ADHD.

Now it's called being normal.

>>724040493
The real point is that everyone played it because it was actually fun and good. Ignoring all of the wonderful stuff in singleplayer (because there were so many good points) Multiplayer was also fucking awesome and theres never been anything like Forge in any game ive ever seen. Dont even bother bringing up Fortnite.

Literally the only bad thing about Halo's campaign gameplay is you're reliant on the plasma pistol for the higher difficulties (mostly Legendary)

>>724038610
>Also, the Combine in Half-Life 2 shits on Halo's Elite AI.
Yeah, nah. You have to play on Hard mode so they survive longer than a second of direct combat with Gordon, and the soldiers are notoriously braindead except for very specific noded sequences stretched far and thin. Without those nodes, they'll just stand around, run into cover for a couple seconds at taking damage before coming back out, or run at the player like any other average shooter AI. Maybe lob a grenade for flushing you out, though they're not clever with their throws. Half-Life 2 isn't as dynamic a sandbox as Halo by far, and thus the enemies don't really get much breathing room til the Episodes refine combat design a bit more.

>>724040493
>whites can only be rich
fucking brownoid

>>724040707
And yet I still prefer to regularly switch anniversary and original graphics.

The aesthetics of H2 are lost once you stop playing on original hardware. You are aware that MCC doesn't give a 1:1 recreation of the xbox discs right?

>>724040750
The whole campaign is a slow dull shooting gallery.

>>724037306
>butt bash does more damage than bullets
This will never not be retarded

>>724040750
Just legendary, really. I never use it or the rifle on Heroic, which is what I play on all the time.
>>724040778
You also forgot that only two of them are allowed to shoot at the player at any given time. The rest will just stand there and stare at you until it's their turn.

>>724040750
Using the plasma pistol charge to melt shields is a neat trick sure but most people don't figure that out on their own. You can get through the legendary difficulty just by being careful with how you tackle the rooms.

>>724040518
Remember when games were fun while not trying to take itself seriously.

>>724040724
>Multiplayer was also fucking awesome and theres never been anything like Forge in any game ive ever seen
Yeah, you just outed yourself as never having played PC games back then. You were a child whose first gaming experience was Halo on a console. For PC we literally had map and mod making tools where we could straight up change the entire game, not just make shitty pre-determined maps and change a few game modifiers.

>>724040645
It was pushed by Microsoft's money, Bungie didn't even want any of that multimedia garbage, which it was garbage.

>>724040835
>getting punched in the skull by a 7 foot tall 1 ton monster man will hurt more than a 5.56 bullet
yes

>>724040689
I can't tell if you consistently have the worst opinions on this board or a humiliation fetish. Either way you should put on a tripcode to really sell the faggotry.

>>724040835
Its not retarded. Canonically the Spartans have fucking super strength. They can literally Flip warthogs around with their hands.

>>724040778
Crysis 1 shitted on Halo as a sandbox game, even Far Cry 1 was better.

Do games really have this level of quality to them anymore?

>>724040934
Why were other shooters that weren't Halo so damn satisfying?

>>724040518
Night and day when compared to Halo yet the Xbox babies still want to live denial

>>724040863
You just outted yourself as never having played Halo brownoid. You really think people want to waste time finding assets and downloading them into whatever dogshit program you're using to build shitty uninspired 1:1 Quake maps? What would you even do with those maps? How could you play them? Please enlighten me. (Also first gaming experience was Sonic on dreamcast faggot)

>>724041007
That's not what sandbox means. Weapon, enemy, combat sandbox. Crysis relies on a bunch of fairly interchangable guns and your Nanosuit powers for its sandbox versus soldiers, heavy vehicles, and the shitass aliens, for example, while Far Cry 1 is shooting dudes in bushes with standard movie FPS guns until the rocket launcher mutants come to town.
Far Cry 1 is broken garbage anyway after patches broke the enemy AI to cheat sight through foliage.

>>724041014
A cutscene, wow

>>724040934
I specifically posted the webm of speed of doom to demonstrate how much more complex doom is mechanically than Halo. Just your melee alone, in how you can reposition skeles, opens up 1000x more options in level design than anything you could ever do in halo. Build engine games are all cinematic garbage. Just like Halo.

Doom doesn't need enemies that dodge or run complex AI routines because they are genuinely dangerous foes that deal lots of damage and can pin you down.

>>724035675 (OP)
the sequel is better

>>724040810
What argument are you even trying to fucking make to me? Are you drunk? I'm literally just saying that H2A has a shit background painting of High Charity that feels out of place. That is literally it.

>>724041153
>that webm
Anyone else felt like gaming got boring when you were playing Xbox 360 games in 2009 on up but then realized that the problem was just Xbox when you dropped it for other platforms again?

Halofags are annoying when their shit franchise is at the peak of sales and popularity and annoying when it's dead.

Absolute subhumans

>>724041153
>Build engine games are all cinematic garbage
Least retarded tranny.

>>724041102
>What would you even do with those maps? How could you play them? Please enlighten me
You'd host them on a dedicated server that people would then connect to and could also download it and play it. Once again, just showing that you are the brownoid here and you never played any actual FPS games on PC back then.

>>724041135
A cutscene at the end of the game you piece of shit

>>724040518
Now this is what I'm fucking talking about. I like Halo but I don't understand how someone could prefer it over this faster, more arcade-y style where you're constantly bobbing, weaving and doing cool shit. This is just so much more engaging.

>>724041278
I can't wait for the remake of this game to change everything and their fanbase to be overshadowed by PC and PlayStation players. Hope the remake comes to Switch 2 as well in a year or two after its release next year so Nintendo fans can be brought on to get rid of the Xbox Halo fanbase for good.

>>724041194
That you need to grow up and embrace the new with the old.

Being obsessed with "the good old days" is just as retarded as hating anything new, you are the same thing you hate.

>>724041278
>Halo = DEAD
>CS = more alive than ever even after 26 years
CS and PC wins again.

>>724041324
Halo has too many cutscenes, am I supposed to be playing a game or watching a movie?

>>724041301
>posts more cinematic garbage
Blood tards always pretend like you can't just jump over a huge blob of enemies and be literally invincible. Because they do not play the game. You can never be pinned down because you can literally just walk across enemy heads so the whole game is just shoving you in tiny rooms and tight spaces because you can't do anything fun with it.

>>724041334
One can like more than one thing, anon. It's not some race or popularity contest that determines what someone likes or prefers.

what are the appeal of dedicated servers where you play with the exact same 5 faggots every time?
I have no dog in this race by the way so no ad hominem faggotry

Halofags getting absolute belt to ass whooping ITT

>>724041412
Your fake opinion in a game you've never played was shaped by my webm. Jumping never works that successfully.

>>724041523
You can't hurt me worse than 343 did.

>>724041153
This is the problem with this board 90% of the fags here dont even actually care about video games they're BBC loving faggots that own nintendo switches and are addicted to Gacha Games.

>>724041304
what game are you talking about buddy? Are you just making shit up??

>>724041523
>our dead or zombie franchises are better than your dead franchise

>>724041507
>what are the appeal of dedicated servers where you play with the exact same 5 faggots every time?
What the fuck do you mean "5 faggots"? Are you a console pleb who never played a real game on a real dedicated server? You had servers with like 32 players and people would build reputations, friendships, rivalries, etc. because you'd see and meet regulars.

Sometimes you'd even be able to join a clan/team if someone liked the way you were playing, and then you could go on to play clan wars/scrims/etc. on other dedicated servers against other clans/teams.

>>724041565
>Jumping never works that successfully.
It will work 100% of the time whenever you jump into a pile of enemies. As a result, the whole game is a dumb cinematic hallway shooter. Just like halo. Which is why your webm is just jumping around like a moron in a hallway.

>>724041507
>what is the appeal of freedom versus being treated like cattle
If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Female spartan sexo

>>724041664
You're literally describing halo

>>724041629
>what game are you talking about buddy? Are you just making shit up??
Literally most FPS games back in the day had support for dedicated servers/map making/modding. It's quite baffling that you are honestly questioning this, assuming that you aren't trolling.

>>724040835
What? It doesn't. Did you somehow miss the part where he shot the thing with an entire magazine depleting its shields and THEN smashed it?

If you tried to melee it outright you have to hit like 8 times to kill it you dumbfuck, especially on legendary, and they have melee counter attacks

>>724041369
I literally said I prefer H2A over Halo 2 you absolute moron. I am making a single statement that the skybox for High Charity looks bad and is mismatched from the rest of the level's aesthetic. You are a retard.

>>724041673
>It will work 100% of the time whenever you jump into a pile of enemies
No it does not. You've obviously never played it. You got psyop'd again, first to cut your penis off, then to think Blood is easily exploited.

>>724041523
Take your pills buddy you're talking to yourself again

>>724041725
>You're literally describing halo
You don't even know what a dedicated server is.

>>724041758
>making it this obvious you're dogshit at the game
People will say blood is their favorite game ever when they've only played through it twice and had to quicksave a billion times. Just lmao. What do you mean it doesn't work consistently? The jump isn't random. If you do it correct it works every time.

>>724041729
You can even name the game you did this on because you have no friends and you never did because you're a weird brownoid tranny and no one wanted to play Halo with you.

I'm starting to think a bunch of this is one or two schizos spamming about their hatred of Halo again.

>>724041840
>What do you mean it doesn't work consistently?
Try using it to avoid the three tommygun cultists at the start of E1M4. Hell try using it on E1M3 in the huge clusterfuck room. Stop discussing games you've never played.

>>724041840
>had to quicksave a billion times
I just noticed his webm said "GAME LOADED". lol

>>724041779
You can/could literally make dedicated Halo servers you retarded faggot, Im sorry you were too poor to afford this shit so you pirated games to your toaster PC and played on community servers.

>>724041523
They're a bunch of uppity faggots who loved a console with no identity nor real gamer fans. Atari had real fans, Nintendo has real fans, Sega had real fans, PlayStation had real fans, Valve and PC gaming has real fans, Xbox was the trend console you got because it was popular here in the US that one time until Sony lowered the PS3 price. Sony only lost its fans the moment their third party games started releasing everywhere else. All the fans of gaming moved to Switch, PC/Steam Deck. Xbox was always the worse of the bunch and Halo was always just known for playing with your friends.

>>724041954
Bruh you suck ass at games. You have no idea how much you suck ass. Learn how to play your supposed favorite games. This shit is so boring. I'm tired of /v/ being full of retarded millennials spewing complete bullshit to try to justify their childhood. 90% of all games are bad. No time period is special.

>>724041961
It's loading the start of the level.

>>724041930
I actually like the game but I was fired from my job today and drinking so eat shith

>>724041983
Mental illness.

>>724041847
>You can even name the game you did this on
Action Quake, Q3A, UT99, CS, any GoldSrc or Source engine game/mod, Tribes, RtCW, Warcraft 3. Just to name a few of the ones that I remember the most.

>>724041983
>real fans
real fans that bootlick and dicksuck brand are the exact reason we're in this shitshow, you moron. Xboxfags being completely mercenary and uncaring of anything but quality is the right call.

I just find it hilarious how defensive Halocucks get, you will never see CoD cucks defend their games to the death like this. Because they aren’t in denial like Halocucks, they will be the first ones to tell you that CoD is a casual game.

Just admit it, Halo is not deep and it was tailor made for mass appeal to the casual audience and not actual gamers who enjoy gameplay with depth and nuance. There’s nothing wrong with it, it’s the same way you would enjoy a popcorn flick.

>>724041965
>You can/could literally make dedicated Halo servers you retarded faggot
In 2001? Please explain to me how you'd make a dedicated server for Halo in 2001. Go on.

>>724042062
>Halo faggot calling anyone mentally ill when they were posting CP when they were losing the argument about their casual shooter being some kind of genre defining game

>>724042116
Halo is not deep and it was tailor made for mass appeal to the casual audience and not actual gamers who enjoy gameplay with depth and nuance, you're right. We are utterly humiliated.

>>724042034
Post a webm of how easy it is. Pointless ask since it's impossible.

>>724042064
Nice quick google search you did to make this list Juan

>>724042137
Delusions are a sign of mental illness.

>>724042242
>Nice quick google search you did to make this list
Why is it so unfathomable to you that people played video games before you were born?

>>724042098
Real fans were the ones that actually played games, gamers, not shitty dudebros who would drop a game on a dime for something else.
>Xboxfags being completely mercenary and uncaring of anything but quality is the right call
You sure about that because you Xfags seem to love blaming everyone but Phil Spencer for the failure of your shitty green box while sucking the guy off so hard you're stealing his life energy. It's the real fans who would drop you if you treat them like shit. Dudebros fall in line like the faggots they try to hide from actually being. All you need to do is look at the current PlayStation fans, they're great example of you Xbots.

>the exact same Halo seethe thread made by the exact same people who literally can't get over the fact it trounced Quake and Unreal in the early 2000s
don't you get tired of fighting a war that already ended decades ago

>>724042116
And Doom/Serious Sam/Duke Nukem/Quake is?
because the plot of those games is so.... intelligent? Complex and Naunced?

>>724042289
Meds

>>724042289
"Real fans" have all turned themselves into trannies, outed themselves as sex pests or allowed faggotry into vidya in a vain attempt to seem mature. Dudebros would have saved us from that gay shit and dudebros are the only people who still mock that gay shit.

>>724042116
I like COD fans because they stay in their lane, they like their games and own up to it, they don't put their game above others and don't care if it's popular or not. I consider COD to be a casual piece of shit, but them boys are some real gamers unlike Halo faggots.

>>724042290
>over the fact it trounced Quake and Unreal in the early 2000s
As a guy who played those two games back in the day, it wasn't Halo that "trounced" them. It was Counter-Strike.

>>724042116
you don't see codcucks defend their game because they're too addicted to it or too pissed at it to care, they know they're the cucks of the industry already but they live at the successful top so they don't have to bother with defending it.
halo didn't have the boomer hate that far back, it's more of a modern cuntery thing of people pretending they're boomers that always hated it, but because it slipped on itself and shit its pants repeatedly, it's easy to poke fun at. but the reality is, all the boomer shooters either modernized in ways more similar to cod and halo anyway, even doom to a degree with its autistic focus on executions and story now, or they died, simple as. decide whether that's a mercy or a shame compared to a corpse being paraded around

>>724042249
Whatever floats your boat, pedo

>>724042281
Im 30 bud

>>724042358
so it really is just fucking spite Halo made Unreal and Quake it's bitch

>>724042387
Not the guy you're replying to but whoever was spamming CP has been doing it in a bunch of threads not just this one.

>>724042391
I'm 35. So why are our video game history so vastly different, where I experienced tons of things that you somehow didn't? Is it because you were actually the poor one and only played on consoles and never on PC?

>>724042342
Yeah, go take them

>>724042346
The trannies are the dudebros, my friend

>>724042387
Your schizobabble floats my boat. It's like watching a crackhead shriek at shadows.

>>724042460
Nah, it's because you keep making threads like this >>724035675 (OP)

>>724042484
>The trannies are the dudebros, my friend
take your historical revisionism and fuck off. Do you think it's pure coincidence the games /v/ sucks off as the best shit ever also happens to be games trannies are obsessed with? The venn diagram between trannies and autists are a circle.

>>724042460
These faggots are mad they cant play halo on any of their fischer price leapfrog devices and all the cool kids that got laid and had friends could/did play it.

>>724042461
Weird, why?

>>724037528
Similar experience. My buddy in 4th grade got an Xbox and Halo for Christmas. We started playing around 6pm, and we reached the Library around 4am that night. His mom came downstairs to get water and reamed us out for still being awake at 6am lol

>>724042334
>plot
most of you Halo fanboys love it because you think the story is cool, you probably fantasized about being a cool space marine when you were a child. that doesn’t change the fact that halo ce campaign gameplay is dull.

>>724042474
Ive owned more consoles and PCs than you can afford in a lifetime brownoid. You're in here larping because you're bitter about a game that you don't understand. I'm sitting here laughing at you. We are not the same.

>>724042562
Then why are most of you Halo faggots either trannies now or gay?

>>724042585
>on any of their fischer price leapfrog devices
But that was literally what Xbox was. It was for people too retarded and/poor for PC.

>>724042596
You think I know why some Second world ESL faggot is spamming /v/ with child pornography?

>>724042596
Some men just want the world to burn. Or more likely, some mod/jannie pissed off a crazy autist.

It is strange to have been on /v/ long enough to see a complete generational replacement. While Halo wasn't completely hated or anything, and there were plenty of CE threads, it was still definitely thought of as baby's first FPS and a pale imitation of other PC shooters, since it was made first and foremost for consoles.

Weird to see the complete take over by zoomers.

>>724042562
Realest shit anyone has said in a /v/ Thread in a while. All these troons love is JRPGS, Gacha, And nintendo games (because Children love them and trannies are pedophiles)

>>724042656
because Xbox shafted the dudebros in favour of PCfaggots like you who all suck cock

>>724042647
>Ive owned more consoles and PCs than you can afford in a lifetime brownoid.
I literally grew up as upper middle class in Denmark, which means that I am more white than you'll ever be and I likely had and have more money than you. I've had virtually everything, including things from before my time like Atari, Amiga, Commodore 64, etc. that were hand-me-downs.

I was playing shit like Blackthorne, Prince of Persia, Doom, Wolfenstein, etc. before you were even sentient.

>>724042754
The industry became consolized. The PC shooters died out. And now most people shifted away elsewhere, filling in with newer generational exposure. It's not rocket science. Pretty sure some of the shitposting is just someone baiting for attention anyway.

>>724035675 (OP)
True, not even its own sequels
All it needs is more variety in the second half and it's literally perfect

>>724042761
>kids love JRPGs
Yeah, like 20 years ago.

>>724042665
PC gaming wasn't even good in 2001 it was for loners and social rejects.

>>724040567
I played every comparable pc fps of the time and I liked halo's campaign as much as any of them.

>>724042867
>3rd worlder doesnt know how punctuation works

>>724042179
Okay, now what? Tell me what purpose these enemies serve. All build engine games are shit.

>>724042874
It was a better time, before the normalfag cattle hordes ruined gaming. It was just beginning in 2001.

>>724042794
You Halo faggots were all trooning out all in 2020, kek

>>724042827
>Bragging about living in Denmark

LOL GET FUCKED

>>724042925
>not E1M3 or E1M4
>two cultists and not even at the same time
>already took damage before recording
Lmfao, what a pathetic attempt. Go ahead and try your amazing technique on the room just beyond those doors.

>>724042874
And like console gaming, it was so much better before Xbox brought normalfag to gaming

>>724043031
Bro I'm not going to play through the whole fucking game. Doesn't work that way. You said it was impossible to jump on enemies' heads. That's wrong. You don't know how to play the game. How many years have you been spamming a game like its a gift from god when you don't know how even basic things about it? You can't listen to these dumb ass casual gamers, they don't play shit.

>>724035675 (OP)
Generic console slop

>>724043191
>You said it was impossible to jump on enemies' heads.
I said jumping will not save you from hitscanners most of the time, giving two key examples of where it would obviously not work at all. Honestly I expected more effort from a retarded tranny like yourself. Not sure why though.

>>724039143
No FPS game did, bf Vietnam was fun but they didn't handle half as well

>>724042874
>PC gaming wasn't even good in 2001
True, we only had bad games like

>Half-Life
>Diablo 1+2
>Deus Ex
>Counter-Strike
>Quake
>Starcraft
>Duke Nukem 3D
>American McGee's Alice
>The Sims
>Hitman: Codename 47
>Grim Fandango
>Max Payne
>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
>Black & White
>Civ 3
>No One Lives Forever
>Baldur's Gate 2
>Dark Age of Camelot
>Gothic
>Fallout 1+2
>Tribes 1+2
>Thief 1+2
>Runescape
>Icewind Dale
>Command & Conquer: Red Alert 1+2
>SWAT 3
>Commandos 1+2
>System Shock 1+2
>Unreal Tournament
>Planescape Torment
>Everquest
>all of Newgrounds
>all of Miniclips
>etc.
Just to name some of my most memorable games from back then.

>>724043282
>I said jumping will not save you from hitscanners most of the time
No you didn't. You said jumping on an enemy's head was impossible. >>724041565
No melee enemy in the game can ever be threatening because you can't jump over them. You can never be pinned in a corner. That's objectively shitty game design and its why no one wants to add Blood enemies to their doom maps. They are just poorly designed and bad. Imagine if you could just jump over pinkies in doom and instead it was just bland hitscanners everywhere. Its shit dude.

>>724036603
>hold S and LMB the game
WOW

>>724038847
>>724038928
(You)

>>724043420
Thanks for this list of the most boring and forgettable games ive ever seen

>>724043442
I said jumping never works that consistently, referring to avoiding the notorious hitscanners. Something that anyone who has played the game would be able to infer. Again I expected too much.

>>724043532
Bad bait.

what is this gay ass thread. anyways quake champions duels anybody

>>724043359
People have to remember what PC shooters were like at the time, honestly: you were either a Half-Life clone and Doom was already old news, you were a Quake clone / Unreal which wasn't a big jump up in its own right beyond the scope of visual ambition, or you were Deus Ex experimenting with mechanics and systems and not really much of a shooter beyond the core mechanical basis. Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam were a shake-up, but they're also legendarily sort of jank where vehicles "slide" more than they move, and characters weren't much better with wildly inaccurate guns and hilariously bad animations.

Halo may be a console FPS, but there wasn't really anything "like" Halo blending a variety of things together. Horde fights with Flood, big engagement between UNSC/Flood/Covenant, vehicle battles, multiplayer with gamemode types to customize that even had preliminary Big Team Battle stuff, etc. The PC version of the game was a glitchy, downgraded mess, but there's a reason why a ton of people have fond memories of Lan and online parties with it, it was a damn solid game for its time besides the campaign problems in the back half.

Now people retroactively just bitch about Halo ruining the shooter industry because 2 guns and regenerating shields, but it was Call of Duty that actually, well, codified shit into the misery its become. Halo at its core is still a goddamn arena shooter, just one with less resource management, and more evened out map control since there's no bunny hopping and rocket jumping to the same extent. Maybe grenade jumps.

>>724043553
Cry more kiddo

>>724043576
You literally gave the generic PC gaming list for people who "like" PC gaming but don't actually play video games. When was the last time you even touched one of those titles. (excluding the retarded flash game websites and shitscape/evershit)

>>724043691
>Halo at its core is still a goddamn arena shooter
Calling Halo an arena shooter hurts my old boomer heart. That shit was not part of arena shooters, even though on a very technical level it might fit the description.

>>724043737
>still tries to get the last word in even after being thoroughly humiliated
KWAB

>>724041716
Agreed

>>724040493
nepo baby boomer spawn doesn't realize that being born to a poorfag working class family (which the majority belong to regardless of race) means you'll be stuck at that level for at least 25 years, and odds are you won't ever escape it, especially now

why does this game generate so much seethe

>>724043765
>When was the last time you even touched one of those titles
I've played Diablo 2, CS, The Sims, Max Payne, System Shock 2 all within the last year.

Also, I don't know how you can possibly think you have ANY argument when pic related is what was available to play on Xbox in 2001.

>>724035675 (OP)
Slowslop garbage.

>>724043191
/vr/ is incredibly stupid and clings to the worst games now. It's like a parody if itself.

>>724043765
If you haven't played at least 90% of those then wtf are you doing?

>>724043921
What kind of casual dumb faggot plays diablo 2, youre not superior to anyone

>>724043918
>why does this game generate so much seethe
It's not even the game itself. It's just absolute retards who keep insisting that Halo is the best FPS game of all time and the best franchise of all time. It's the fans that are causing the seethe, because the fans are insanely fucking stupid.

>>724043928
>the introduction level to a game on easy is easy
wow

>>724043928
So much soul in a single webm that no shooter has ever been able to touch in 20 years.

ITT:

>>724043813
Well the thing is, you probably think the shield systems and stuff are kind of a cowardly, slow-paced thing, but the dev intention is to make it more aggressive since players have less to risk in a direct engagement. The big thing Halo's really missing compared to Quake is the movement at that point, which 5 did try to partially rectify to questionable degrees, though the competitive scene fuckin loved it. And Unreal? Most people didn't do crazy walldodges in Unreal Tournament, and base Unreal didn't have the movement tech of Quake. If anything, between adrenaline, vehicle modes and other stuff in UT2k4, it was steadily becoming more like Halo in some ways itself.
Sometimes you just have to take the hits as they come and not go with a blanket sweep about shit. If you don't like it, that's fine, but just because you might not like it doesn't make it bad.

>>724044058
Regenerating shields ruined FPS games. That and the incredibly linear nature of Halo's levels. Suddenly making an FPS was easy as shit with those in mind, and far more forgettable and casual.

>>724043420
I can give you Half-Life, Diablo 2 and The Sims but the rest is basically riff raff that people pretend to be big deals because of early gaming culture being shaped by people who constantly praised them, like how tendies pretend N64 and GC were huge deals when they got absolutely destroyed by the competition, or how 80s nostalgia movies pretend shit like The Thing wasn't a complete and utter failure nobody gave a shit about.

>>724043975
>no argument
I accept your concession.

>>724038293
>FEAR! The best fps ever made!
This but unironically

>>724043928
always felt bad about hurting the grunties as a kid

>>724038465
See
>>724037937
>>724037552
>>724037306

>>724044158
You aren't interesting enough to have a discussion with, you're an actual moronic drone

>>724044134
Half-Life, Quake 2 and swaths of Unreal did the linearity first, though.

>>724044058
>but the dev intention is to make it more aggressive since players have less to risk in a direct engagement
Well, it did the exact opposite. Halo basically slowed FPS games to a crawl.

>>724035675 (OP)
I've been playing through the originals again, CE is the superior game by far to 2. 2 is fucking awful to play, such a chore. Don't know why people glaze it so hard.

>>724044058
nta but the entire point of arena shooters is that you collect weapons and resources in the arena-the whole game is about map control
i've never played halo, but i don't think spawning with 2 weapons+regen armour is anything like an arena shooter. hell i'd argue battle royales have way more AFPS DNA than halo
that being said, i agree with you, the majority of people playing quake in lan parties probably never knew how to do proper strafe jumps or rocket jumps

>>724044213
I already accepted your concession. No need to write anything else to me.

>>724044214
Those aren't even close to Halo's level of linearity.

>>724036603
>Play some real games kiddo

>>724044152
>Quake
>Counter-Strike
>Starcraft
>Everquest
>Deus Ex
>riff raff that people pretend to be big deals
These alone are literally genre-defining games, you fucking numbskull.

>>724044271
2 gets the glazing because nostalgia. even bungie wasn't really happy with it thanks to how badly it turned out from their ambitions. big city battles became single streets and small alleys, stealth approach ideas for delta halo like ce's truth and reconciliation got scrapped because they couldn't figure out how to actually do it worth a damn, and the enemy actors you could have in combat basically got cut in half i think due to how much more demanding it was on the hardware? so 2 straight up became a literal gallery shooter most of the time, using waves of enemies when it isn't clearing rooms out.

>>724043921
you're out here playing the original sims game in 2025? yeah you're full of shit.

>>724044479
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3314060/The_Sims_Legacy_Collection/

>>724044387
It's weird though some early levels are not so linear like Halo and Silent Cartographer, others like AotCR seem like they could be more explorative but perhaps time crunch happened and they couldn't follow through their plans.

Like how we have levels reversed too, maybe there was a grander vision for exploring the halo facility but they had to chop up the game into levels.

>>724044479
Like >>724044515 just pointed out, I heard about the re-release and installed it on my mother's PC because she used to play The Sims back in the day, but it was such a buggy and shitty mess that I just went with the original instead, and then played it a little.

Taken straight off of google for all you hating trannies and bitter boomers who never got a chance to enjoy the golden age of vidya


Commercial success and cultural impact
System-seller: The original Halo: Combat Evolved was a key factor in the success of the original Xbox, with sales figures for the game surpassing half of the consoles sold, notes Wikipedia.
Top-selling game: In 2004, Halo 2 was the best-selling video game in the United States, outpacing titles like Call of Duty.
Cultural phenomenon: Halo was so popular that its marketing and merchandise were ubiquitous, and it was widely discussed, according to this YouTube video. Some compare its cultural impact to Star Wars or Lord of the Rings.
Multiplayer and online popularity
Massive online community: At its peak, the franchise boasted over a million online players simultaneously.
LAN parties: Halo was a fixture at local area network (LAN) parties, even at smaller schools, and was a key part of the social gaming scene.
Online multiplayer innovation: Halo 2 was particularly influential in its introduction of online multiplayer for millions of players, further enhancing the multiplayer experience for the series.

>>724044152
>or how 80s nostalgia movies pretend shit like The Thing wasn't a complete and utter failure nobody gave a shit about.
Your own comparison disproves your "argument". Initial financial success does not equate to quality, influence or long term appreciation. As evidenced by the fact that between ET and The Thing are 42 higher grossing 1982 movies, ones people rarely care about today, including ET.

Doom Eternal effortlessly mogs every game posted in this thread

>>724044610
>and bitter boomers who never got a chance to enjoy the golden age of vidya
What does this even mean? Boomers were the ones who DID get the chance to enjoy the golden age of vidya.

>>724044647
>worst doom game in the series

Yeah okay buddy nice bait

>>724044429
Well they had a short time to make it and what they wanted was too ambitious for the console. I would have been happy with more levels for CE though, the changes to the gameplay are just not fun.

Jackal snipers everywhere so you must have a BR/carbine
Can't get close to anything so must have a BR/carbine
Much easier to snipe elites/brutes with a beam rifle than try to have a fun fight with them, so you must also have one of those
Flying bug enemies shit to fight
Brutes shit to fight
Flood shit to fight
Vehicle sections are slow shooting ghosts one after the other as they pop around a corner
Most fights the only solution is snipe and spamming plasma grenades
Slowly chipping away at enemies trying to get the headshot with BR/carbine from far away is boring
At least the MCC version fixes reticle being too low but guns still take up way too much of the screen especially when dual wielding
Duel wielding is pointless because you need to snipe and grenade everything
Having no health is weird is seems completely random how many hits you can take when the shield is down
Allies die too quickly although this was the same in CE on Heroic to be fair
I'm sure there are other nitpicks, the soundtrack is amazing that's all I have that's good.

>>724044668
Not true after 2003 they became insanely bitter about games being leagues better than the garbage they played as children and started claiming to play shit they'd never even touched so they can say it sucked.

>>724043691
Nothing shipped on pc with half the stuff halo 2 but especially 3 had. I was a dedicated pc lan attendee during the late 90s-middle 00s and the mod scene for half life was peak but halo were special releases too

>>724044708
yeah, the only other halo games as poorly balanced as 2 are 4 because even on easier modes enemies just randomly gib you while the promethean knights are super obnoxious damage sponges, and 5 because co-op design focus poorly slapped in + retarded boss fight spam seriously just fucks that game up. ruby rebalanced will be an interesting thing to see to say the least, like him giving jackal snipers the carbine like 3 instead of the beam rifle being a starting unfuckery.

Unrelated but how's the RTS spinoff?

>>724044895
all halo games are shit. hope that helps.

>>724044729
You're a schizo. I'm a boomer and every other boomer I know pretty much agrees that video games didn't start becoming shit until around after 2010 or so.

>>724044610
>Top-selling game: In 2004, Halo 2 was the best-selling video game in the United States, outpacing titles like Call of Duty.
2004's call of duty release was an expansion pack.

>>724044058
Unreal, UT and 2003 had great movement though
>>724044314
Halo totally had map control for power weapons, vehicles and 3:s equipment. You had more impactful map control with armor in quake but the elements were there.

>>724043975
It's still the best hack n slash, retard

>>724045026
>In the United States, it was the second best-selling game of 2004 (after Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas) with sales of 4.2 million that year
L M A O. The dude was trying to flex with a shitty AI search, but an actual search shows that Halo 2 wasn't even the best selling game in that year, in the US.

>>724043921
That's cool and all but you Xbots didn't play any of those games, only games you played on the OG Xbox was Halo and Halo 2, nothing else. Just like with the Xbox 360 from 2005-2008, only a minority played the actual good and interesting games. The rest just got an Xbox and 360 for fucking Halo and this is why the Xbox became barren after 2007. Don Mattrick tried to fix that from 2013 on up, but he was dropped for Phil Spencer who canned all of his projects and turned Xbox into the Halo, Gears, and Forza machine and nothing else. I fucking miss Peter Moore.

>>724044925
No. No, it did not.

>>724045210
even without having to do research, 2004 when you weren't system locked and stuck in the narrow lane, it was filled to the brim with fps
yes you had call of duty's expansion if you didn't have ww2 fatigue from years of rtcw,mohaa,bf1942,their expansions,etc, and of course there was a medal of honor too, but there was also doom 3, hl2, riddick, bf vietnam, and tons more

just because halo people only know halo (pso was what revolutionized internet connectivity for consoles btw) doesn't mean that that the fps audience had a game they were holding above the others as THE title of the year

>>724045076
i mean in quake if you don't have railgun you just die, as opposed to halo where your starting weapons are your main weapons(i think)

>>724035675 (OP)
This is the most overrated game Injave ever played.
The shooting sucks. The enemies are unbalanced and the game feels aimless

>>724045625
The good Halo games gave you basic stuff that needs to get replaced for harder encounters. CE is infamous for the Magnum being a keystone weapon thanks to a last minute balancing patch, but most of the rest of the series starts you off with like an SMG or AR and a sidearm, and you want to jump up to the BR or DMR if you have an opportunity for more efficient ranged conflict compared to close-quarters. Games that fucked this up was Reach's Title Update forcing DMRs with less bloom into standard starts, 4 trying to go Call of Duty so everybody could start with any general weapon, and 5's initial release making most guns generalized til they dialed in specialties later on, and the AR and Sidekick of Infinite generally being dominating weapons for their efficiency that took years to patch into a more balanced sandbox.
As you can tell, 343 has a bad track record of trying to un-progression the sandbox, accidentally or intentionally, though they learned their lessons later on. Twice.

>>724045625
That's only true for tourneyfags, most players make use off the entire arsenal.
In halo you are always looking for a better pickup or ammo, stop talking bs

>>724035675 (OP)
Man, I remember when Halo was universally hated on this board. I played it out of curiosity and liked it, it's a pretty good FPS akshully.

>>724046037
BR and DMR starts are so fucking gay outside of swat

>>724039154
Plays infinitely better than any gaylo gameplay

>>724044058
Halo made it easy for you to hide when you're shot too much and wait for your shields to recharge, problem only got worse when the sequel added regen health on top of that. Halo being slow was just icing on the cake with how bad it was.

>>724046173
>Halo made it easy for you to hide when you're shot too much and wait for your shields to recharge
If you're fighting Elites (which you usually do), waiting will not help you much since their shields recharge too. Hell, they might even charge you.

If you're fighting the Flood, lmao

>>724043029
There is no better place to grow up unironically

>>724044708
>was too ambitious for the console
Why does Xbox hold everything back, like literally?

>they wanted stencil shadows at a playable framerate on the original Xbox
>there's a mod that technically restores them but it's jank and kinda super fucky due to engine limitations culling lights that aren't in immediate sight
>>724046173
you go play a halo game on heroic and the enemies will not really let you have your peace without earning it a lot of the time. just because you're not a crack addict amount of speed doesn't mean the enemies aren't super fast and aggressive, "slowing it down" my ass. you people have not seen elites at heroic and legendary.

>>724046119
Back then it was generally popular and /v/ has always been contrarian by default
Each release had thousands of great threads though, there were always lads ready to play customs and /v/ made some of the best maps, gamemodes and shared fantastic theatre clips

>>724046235
>>724046301
>mentions single player
>when the other poster was talking about multiplayer
Halo players, ladies and gentlemen.

>>724046073
>That's only true for tourneyfags, most players make use off the entire arsenal.
in quake or halo? in quake rail is retardedly busted, if you don't have rail you can't use the other weapons
>In halo you are always looking for a better pickup or ammo, stop talking bs
like i said, i never played halo. was only guessing on what i heard about it

>>724043832
At least there’s one other sensible soul here

>>724046359
idk, then it depends on range of engagement, it's kinda trivial to push you if you are low on shields

the only Halo I played in MP was Infinite

>>724046316
>halo 3 thread
>mention how Im always the only Elite in the lobby
>bunch of replies saying same thing
>we decide to join forces and WORT WORT our way through big team battle
>utter carnage as we annihilate 13 year olds with their donut steele mc knockoffs and ninja gaiden renters
>after some good games, group disbands and that was the end of that chapter

Wonder how my bros are doing

>>724046371
>in quake or halo? in quake rail is retardedly busted, if you don't have rail you can't use the other weapons
Every weapon in quake was usable, people regularly outscored rail with rockets since rail is fucking hard to use against players with even half-decent movement.
Halo had better balance though for sure. Besides thr halo 1 magnum, the series had some of the best arsenals in gaming

>>724046596
usable, sure, but some are way better than others. see: rocket, lg and
...
rail

>>724036464
The people that make video games today do not play them and this is actually important.
There isn't a single video of from Bungie I can think of where half the video isn't b-roll of them playing their own game.
Others like early ID would allocate time for playing other video games as a form of research on what is fun. So that they could know how to make their games more fun.
Today people study marketing and how to exploit children into spending their parents money. This is what is most important when designing, developing, and deploying a video game. Not fun, not gameplay.
They don't know that it's funny when the warhog blow up into the sky lol

>>724046037
BR killed the series, turned it into whack-a-mole COD game

>>724046832
I still have loads of artsy H3 images from when people figured out the odd high contrast and filter/shader behaviours

>>724037765
Mil sims are braindead as fuck. They just trick casuals into thinking they're high IQ because they have a lot of controls to learn and even terrible players can now easily and reliably punish them for playing like a complete moron.

>>724047006
The games had such good tools to share, everyone was so creative and eager to post.
Here's a map maker, and you can apply shaders, and you can upload it for anyone to play at any time. And a video editor with a clip and screenshot exporter that you can also download on your computer. And...

I just want to say I appreciate the thread. I'm an old Bungie fan boy, my first computer game was a pirated copy of Marathon. I played pid, myth 1 and Infinity on our old performa. I followed the development of oni and halo 1 like obsessed and rewatched the animated teasers countless times. I still have my old infinity triangular big box in my shelf.
Reach was the end of the good days - the writing was lame but the MP custom games were peak.
Destiny sucked ass and I never played past the first raid.

>>724046938
The Battle Rifle in 2 was quite literally the Magnum tags from CE reused and repurposed into a burst rifle to justify its power. So if you're complaining about the Battle Rifle you may as well be bitching about the CE Magnum by association, and both ended up gutted as the series advanced anyway.

>>724038764
Nice take. Did you get it from youtube? Halo is kino on PC
>>724039543
Most of Halo's mechanics were sketched when Bungie was aiming for a Mac release. Why lie?

>>724047269
>Destiny sucked ass

I played a bit of D2 when it became free. Never understood why people wanted to pay again for the same game of shooting health bars when they released an expansion.

They ditched Halo for this..

>>724047183
The halo 2 online heatmaps were cool as hell.
I'm sad so few of the old clips from H3 were exported.
https://youtu.be/rKyX0Wh72iY?si=zzi2hIUJ-S_7h3od

>>724047006
Like moving the camera near the blast radius of a grenade etc?

>>724047308
Yeah but you are forced to use it in 2 since you can't get close to enemies, its just boring. Gone is getting in the mix with a plasma rifle and AR.

>>724040140
The nigger in the webm is playing on easy. Purple elites eat an AR magazine like it's nothing and wobble all over the place on heroic and above. Stop acting as if the game plays for you, because it does not.

>>724042754
I don't think it's fair to say it's just a generational replacement as much as it is this board becoming far more casual in general. A ton of zoomers, especially on the younger end, probably have more fond memories of CS but you're not going to see them as much on this board that despises competitive games or challenge in general.

>>724047425
Well that's primarily a 2 problem because the game seriously lacked a polishing pass. Player health/shields were low, enemy durability was high, higher difficulties made them extra aggressive as they kill you too fast, the MCC accidentally doubled the enemy AI tickrate so a lot of people are finding them even more aggressive than before (and Jackal snipers can fucking shoot you twice in one pull), so the BR ended up one of the safest ways to survive the damn thing. 3 definitely didn't suffer the same issues.

>>724047423
Exactly, there were other gimmicks too iirc, Spartan laser maybe?

speaking of quake rails being op is there aany game at all where sniping isn't op?

>>724047392
Heatmap was cool and if I remember correctly there was a really cool feature that let you see which content YOU were in. As in, if I upload a clip or screenshot and you were in it, you could find it that way. This is something I still want other games to do.

>>724047320
>Nice take. Did you get it from youtube?
No, I got it from seeing the FPS genre devolve in real-time after 95% of FPS games started wanting to be Halo/CoD.
>Halo is kino on PC
I think you meant to say that it's dead.

>>724047479
>Stop acting as if the game plays for you, because it does not
So you want me to deny the objective reality of aim assist and bullet magnetism? You Halo fans are so weird.

>>724047601

What the fuck happened to games, bros?

>>724038764
Sad trvke

>>724047601
They really helped you learn where the action could be found for each mode much faster.
Yeah it had a tagging system since each item was tied to a game session. Also made it easy to find cool bros to play with

>>724041983
HAHAHAHAHA "REAL GAMER FANS" HOLY SHIT. Thanks nigger. I got an Xbox because of Halo and the figthing game with them bad bitches. Everyone I knew that had a gamecube was autistic.

>>724046832
>The people that make video games today do not play them and this is actually important.
this is only maybe true for a subset of the creative/art department. or very dry technical positions. anyone involved with the nuts and bolts gameplay programming is likely the core enthusiast videogame player.

>>724047718
Check yourself, you're talking to a Premium Gamer™

>>724047645
Call of Duty streamlined matchmaking to dropping in, getting a game done, drop out, no persistent lobbies. Everyone else followed suit to cut corners, and 343 were lazy fucks about content creation except when they literally used Forge makers as the backbone of their own playlists. So the cool shit that actually fostered communities and player interactions beyond shooting each other got abandoned in favor of skill-based matchmaking and KDRs as the primary focus.

>had consoles and PCs
>enjoyed many fps on PC, Half Life, Counterstrike, Team Fortress, Unreal, Quake, Doom
>console had Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, was Red Faction before Halo?
>Halo comes out on Xbox, also enjoyed this immensely

Don't get why people hated it, the graphics were fresh as fuck, the vehicles, and marine companions, the mystery of the story, the enemy composition and AI made it a very well rounded game. The controls being so well tuned made it play nicely too.

>>724047810
>The controls being so well tuned made it play nicely too
What in the fuck does this mean? Are you a bot?

>>724047878
it means the game controlled really well, you fucking ESL

>>724047878
Are you dumb? The analogue stick aiming and button placement felt nice. Do you want me to dumb it down any more?

>>724035675 (OP)
After the story wows you, half the levels are a slog or panic induced corridor creeping. Its 10/10 first playthrough and a 6/10 repeat playthrough

>>724047951
>the story wows you

>>724047718
>I got an Xbox because of Halo
I know
>the figthing game with them bad bitches
I loved DOA 3 and 4 too but I also loved Bloody Roar on the Gamecube.

>>724043978
All I see in this thread is old fucks or zoomers pretending to be old fucks come up with shitty shooters. FEAR is kino tho

>>724047810
It's really not Halo, just its annoying ass fans. No one likes them or Xbots. Halo is just a casualty in that conversation.

>>724044271
I really like the feel of 2. Gotta love them ragdolls when you burst a running elite in the head. The soundtrack and overall ambience is pretty nice.

>>724047915
>>724047939
>Do you want me to dumb it down any more?
Yes, please do dumb it down more. You mentioned PC games and other console games. How exactly did Halo make you go "wow, this game is well tuned and it plays nicely, unlike the other games I mentioned".

>>724047967
Assuming you dont know shit and been in cave for 25 years. Reviewing it based on its release.

>>724047951
The Library is some unfun shit on heroic/legendary it has to be said. But the reverse levels at least have interesting enemy combos, when the black spec ops covvies appear shit gets real.

>>724044895
Wars 2 is pretty solid. I liked the first one's campaign even if playing it with a mouse feels weird.

>>724047969
DoA 2 Ultimate through 4 were so fucking good
They both had soulcal thou which was even better

>>724048095
You probably didn't play it on an Xbox on release so weren't there, sorry poorfag. It's just a feeling where the game has everything polished and no annoying bullshit with controls. You can react quickly with muscle memory and don't have to remember a combination of buttons. The aiming feels smooth and predictable, playing fps on console was always awkward before compared to PC, but Halo nailed it.

If you only played Halo on the original PC port with a mouse and keyboard, I could see why you didn't like it. The graphics lost a lot of detail and looked ugly, something felt off about it.

>>724048157
Its been a bit, library is the level with seemingly endless amounts of flood and like 7 long ass hallways right?

>>724048340
>You probably didn't play it on an Xbox on release so weren't there, sorry poorfag
I was there and I did try it on the Xbox HUEG, because of all the hype I had heard, but it was pretty fucking meh to me.
>It's just a feeling where the game has everything polished and no annoying bullshit with controls.
So you can't even describe it?
>The aiming feels smooth and predictable, playing fps on console was always awkward before compared to PC, but Halo nailed it.
Because it had fucking aim assist and bullet magnetism. Is that what you meant when you said it was "well tuned and plays nicely"?

>>724048404
Yeah you have to walk through and deal with waves of flood coming out of the walls. You usually have enough room to keep away from them but sometimes you have to wait for a door to open and don't have anywhere to retreat to, that's hard.

>>724048489
>So you can't even describe it?

Can it really be put into words? I've played a lot of games and I like how Halo plays, can't really explain it more than that.

>Because it had fucking aim assist and bullet magnetism. Is that what you meant when you said it was "well tuned and plays nicely"?

What do you really mean by that? Sometimes when an enemy moves fast it will follow it, like a flood jumping up in front of you. It's obvious when that happens and it's not happening all the time. Bullet magnetism? Like a charged plasma shot homes in, sometimes pistol bullets will hit an enemy when the reticle clearly isn't on them, but other guns don't do this, maybe the plasma rifle a little. This isn't playing the game for you, it's still possible to completely miss enemies, if you aren't on the ball in heroic/legendary you get rekt.

>>724047336
Raids are fun as fuck.

>>724048816
>It's obvious when that happens and it's not happening all the time
If you played the original Halo on the original Xbox it ALWAYS had aim assist enabled. The fact that you didn't even know that makes me feel like I should just disregard anything you say, because you'd have to be fucking retarded to not feel and know that.

>>724049270
It doesn't move the aim for you constantly, that's dumb. When something moves fast that you are already looking at, yes it does. It's more obvious in 2, does it all the time which is fucking annoying because it takes your aim away from the thing you wanted to shoot when another enemy moves across your crosshair.

>>724049451
>It doesn't move the aim for you constantly, that's dumb
Yes, it does. Every single time your crosshair moves close to an enemy, it will slow down and track the target without you even moving the stick, doesn't matter if the enemy is moving or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS0xFJ-uf4k

>>724048816
>This isn't playing the game for you
Consolefags actually believe this...

>>724049598
Oh yeah the crosshair slows down over enemies sure. Whatever is happening with the aiming i don't think it makes it a shit game or ruins anything unless you just want to play unreal with railguns all day. It's a fun game that ramps up the challenge each level and becomes most satisfying on the hardest difficulty where it's not just health and damage but enemy behaviour that makes it harder.

>>724049598
>Every single time your crosshair moves close to an enemy, it will slow down and track the target without you even moving the stick
The game's controls just feel so good, bro, I don't know how to explain it.

Check this out.

>>724035675 (OP)
trvke

>>724050304
very nice

nothing more pathetic than 2014+ newfags roleplaying as somethingawful goons from 2004 by having fake meltdowns over shit like halo

>>724052294
>roleplay
>meltdown
Interesting form of denial and/or cope, can't say I see your perspective on this one.

>>724053150
>release date: Nov/15/2001

>>724053360
still makes you underage
or are we going to pretend i ain't a fucking retard if i still like something i watched when i was 3 years old?

>>724053647
but also fighting each other constantly because, well, chaos

>>724053360
face it brochacho: millenials are underage

>>724053647
>he was 3 years old in 2001
>>724053734
Gosh I wish, but no, time passed although gently but through me

>>724035675 (OP)
the peak of SOVL

>>724054029
>>he was 3 years old in 2001
i was 14 but keep projecting

>>724035675 (OP)
That title goes to STALKER in my opinion though to be fair it's kind of subjective and a broad set of different games and you have to mod the shit out of it to your liking

Halo 3 was one of the only games I have ever dropped instead of finishing it.
I became so bored.
>>724055086
Stalker is wayyyyy too janky to be considered anywhere near that. It's ok though.

>>724053150
Can't wait until /v/ will start to claim CoD was good and only the new games suck

>>724057986
dude...

>>724035675 (OP)
That is not Goldeneye

I haven't encountered a single console FPS that's even half as fun as Perfect Dark or the TimeSplitters games.

>>724040463
>>724040294
Original looks better by far. You can tell the remix is just “turn everything up to max” to where it looks like plastic. Like trusting a nigga to mod your car and you get stuck with stupid shit like 25” rims and a purple coat of paint. The old games did more with less.

>>724046392
I wish more anons appreciated fem Spartans

Tell me why FEAR and CS are allowed to be slow but it's Halo's fault it's not Quake?

>>724059639
Quakefags absolutely despise CS, probably more so than Halo. FEAR isn't actually that popular outside of /v/, I think.

>>724059857
most of the most skilled quakefags i know are also csfags

>>724059857
I'm convinced quake fags are like 5 people total who dont even play games. Maybe never even played quake. Why else are quake threads like 20 posts total and they're all in Halo threads

>>724044690
>worst doom game in the series
That title belongs to aptly named "The Dark Age"

>>724043125
The PS2 was the harbinger of normalfags anon. So was the Wii, although that audience moved on to mobile. Yes a console that sold only 24 million units brought normalfags to gaming. Get out of here.

>>724059394
I wish you'd go back