Thread 724044116

Is there any other game series that’s like pokemon in gameplay? Like the format where you have a monster you battle other monsters with and can catch the other monsters? SMT is close but not exactly. And most monster catching games have some weird gimmick to it and aren’t to the point and direct like the old pokemon games were

>>724044116 (OP)
Digimon

>>724044116 (OP)
Dragon Warrior Monsters

>>724044116 (OP)
The best monster taming game ever just came out recently

>>724044139
>>724044324
idk any digimon game I played was retardedly complicated

>>724044116 (OP)
ROM hacks. Unbound is pretty good, and there's also >Clover.

>>724044116 (OP)
Dragon quest 5

>>724044415
No wonder pokemon games are so simple and bad, you are their audience. There's no overly complicated digimon game.

>>724044116 (OP)
smt is pokemon with fusion and you don't want to admit it.

>>724044139
digimon sucks because you always lose the monsters at some point
i could never get into any of the digimon games because they take away your team
i know that's the point because virtual pets or something but it doesn't make them any fun

>>724044525
Every Digimon game sucks get over it

>>724044663
I said it was close

>>724044716
Pokedrone
>>724044712
>take away your team
What the fuck are you talking about

>>724044116 (OP)
azure dreams

>>724044756
idk then try Monster Rancher or DQM but they were fake n gay so I never played em nothing will satisfy you if you want 1:1 except maybe for a romhack

>>724044828
>have digimon you like
>it randomly dies and becomes a stupid egg and you have to raise it again
it's fucking dumb

>>724044663
ok.
but
fusion is fucking gay
i don';t want to turn my fairy and imp into a hellhound.
I want a cooler fucking fairy, a cooler fucking imp and a hell hound i can train then raise.
>hurf just fuse for that cooler fairy
No.
gay
faggot shit
my monsters aren't just a resource to burn off.
I want to raise a thing i catch at the start all the way to the end and see it grow and develop naturally.
This is WHY SMT, digimon, and dragon quest monsters are fucking dog shit and never catch on.
Your team NEVER matters cause you keep throwing them away for 'better' creatures.
temtem, casset beast and nexomon are the only ones really close to pokemon.

>>724045162
That's just a few digimon world games. Digimon story is your typical jrpg and it's the most successful of the games.

>>724044836
Holy based. Came to post this. Also Jade Cocoon. I fucking hated the sequel but that was a long time ago.

>>724044116 (OP)
That's a stacked lineup. How did he lose so much?

>>724044116 (OP)
just play Pokémon Unbound

>>724044116 (OP)
Jade Cocoon for PS1

>>724045313
because ash is a fucking retard and constantly acted at type disadventage
>squirtle go kill this pikachu
>butterfree go kill this growlith...oops lmao time to release you so you can FUCK lul
>pediotto fight this jynx
he was a dumb nigger worthless trainer and charmeleon literally did nothing wrong by shitting on him and charzard only gave in because he too had the sexings.
then ash got that SLUT of a chicorita. the whore

>>724045218
maybe there's hope for digimon yet then

>>724045453
ash sucks and the pokemon anime is trash that contributed a lot to the infantilisation and dumbing down of the setting that we have had for a long time now

I wish pokemon never got this big and people understood and treasured the setting and vibes of the gen 1 games and the manga

>>724044116 (OP)
was butterfree even good in gen1?

>>724044415
It's the other way around. Digimon is worse because it's so simple. The battle system is like if you took Pokemon's and ripped out everything besides three types. Boring.

>>724045573
It pokemon made the exact same game as time stranger the fans would be calling it a masterpiece and one of the best games ever made.

>>724045198
>Temtem
Damn shame what happened to the game. Everybody stopped playing it all at once after reaching the "end of content" and then the game never bounced back when the content updates finally came out months later.

>>724044116 (OP)
>the Dragon Warrior/Quest Monsters franchise (kinda)
>Disc Creatures
>EvoCreo 1/2
>the Nexomon games
>Coromon
>Cassette Beasts
>TemTem (if you have no standards)
>that one Rick and Morty phone game people liked for a while
>a fucking gazillion romhacks and fangames (play Pokemon Infinite Fusion)
>some of the Digimon games (World 1 was a monster collector, I think?)
>technically Shin Megami Tensei games count, though some count more than others
>Tales of Symphonia 2
>a shitload of shovelware phone games all using the same HP-ATK-DEF-SPD formula as if they're making their games with a Unity template
Those are all the ones I can think of off the top of my head right now, anyway.

Could also skim https://store.steampowered.com/category/creature_collector but people are idiots and include shit like "Where's Waldo but with cats- the game" because you "collect creatures".

>>724045631
Earliest, easiest, fastest way to get access to poison, paralysis and/or sleep.
Any time I play gen 1 games, I try to get one right away for the sleep and poison.
Also they're the earliest source of a Psychic move (Confusion) until.... Abra, I think?
Considering half the gen 1 dex is weak to Psychic, it's a nice thing to have

>>724045198
>I want to raise a thing i catch at the start all the way to the end and see it grow and develop naturally.
It's pretty easy to catch something early and use it for the entirety of World of Final Fantasy.

>>724044116 (OP)
Coromon is my favorite. Cassette beasts is pretty cool. Heard good things about becoming.
Play Pokémon unbound like the other anon said.

>>724045982
They'd be calling it cutscene hell and worse than Gens 1-5 due to lack of content.

No, every other mon game is pure retardation because it focuses on autistic fusion/breeding instead of CATCHING AND USING SAID MONSTERS.
It is why pokemon sells millions.

>>724046221
No. Pokemon sells millions because it has a cult following. Emphasis on the word cult.

>>724045982
They'd be calling it linear and annoying since that's what they called Sun and Moon which Time Stranger is designed like.

I say that as someone who loves Time Stranger.

>>724046327
Yo kai watch scared game freak, you know why? No fusion/breeding bullshit.
The cult following is just an excuse used by pokemon haters.

>>724046417
Surely you aren't implying pokemon games aren't linear in general. Surely you aren't implying the average pokemon fan even cares about such things.

>>724044116 (OP)
Dragon Quest Joker series is really good. Obviously not quite the same but still fun. DQMJ3 is particularly good.

>>724044116 (OP)
MGQ
You capture "monsters" and use them in battle

>>724046427
Fusion adds a mechanical layer to the game.
Games without fusion are fake n gay. Lesser.

>>724044116 (OP)
the Monster Hunter Stories games are very underrated.

>making a pokemon like video game
>nintendo patent lawyers
YOU ARE COURTING DEATH

>>724046327
>No. Pokemon sells millions because it has a cult following.
And how did it get a cult following unlike the rest of the genre?

>>724046945
>Fusion adds a mechanical layer to the game.
It also invalidates the entire point of the genre.
People don't want to collect stuff just to mash it together with other stuff to get something they don't like.
Just look at siralim, a complete mess only accessible by extreme autists because of this.
You can have mechanical debt and not invalidate the entire core of the genre.Fusion is not the way to do it.

>>724047775
Almost no competition, formerly good games, extremely successful advertising and merchandising during it's peak popularity. What does that have to do with today? It has competition, it's games are low effort trash and I'm an adult now so I don't fall for false hype.

>>724047239
Just release it on the Switch, then you'll be in the clear.

>>724047961
>People don't want to collect stuff just to mash it together with other stuff to get something they don't like.
You choose fusions you like, that's like complaining Charmander evolves to Charizard, Charmander just got bigger, whatevs.
>It also invalidates the entire point of the genre.
This depends on what metaphysical framework you operate on. e.g. the philosophy of when Vegeta turns into Vegito.
Poke-onlyfags simply don't have the philosophychops to insert themselves into a philosophical framework they like when playing a game. It's a skill issue.

>>724044324
trannislators get the rope

>>724047775
>And how did it get a cult following unlike the rest of the genre?
the rest of the genre weren't there 25 years ago
>but digimon
you were either a pokefag or a digifag, and pokefags had larger numbers, hence the current pokecult

>>724044116 (OP)
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Ni no Kuni

>>724047775
Successful media blitz consisting of an anime, games and merch that captured the devotion of a generation. The games werent even that popular until the anime aired. Okay attempted the same strategy which worked in Japan until they shat the bed with one of the later entries.

>>724049120
Yo-Kai watch attempted the same strategy*

>>724048726
>You choose fusions you like,
But you are sacrificing the original? That si the entire point.
>that's like complaining Charmander evolves to Charizard, Charmander just got bigger, whatevs.
Why do you think pokemon had an option to stop this from gen 1?
>This depends on what metaphysical framework you operate on. e.g. the philosophy of when Vegeta turns into Vegito.
Poke-onlyfags simply don't have the philosophychops to insert themselves into a philosophical framework they like when playing a game. It's a skill issue
What in the goddamn?

>>724044324
You killed all the hype I had for this game with a single screenshop

>>724044116 (OP)
when will we get webm related in a game

>>724049178
>Why do you think pokemon had an option to stop this from gen 1?
There are people who try to bring a demon they like to endgame (I've seen Pixie or Alice) Idk if it is common though so I won't speak on it.
>But you are sacrificing the original? That si the entire point.
>What in the goddamn?
It depends on your theory of mind.
In Dragon Ball, it doesn't work under the theory that Vegeta is sacrificed on a fusion. Their consciousnesses are shared into Vegito.
But that's just scratching the surface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Teletransportation_paradox
This paradox, Ship of Theseus, and so on. There are extremists who look at the paradox and conclude that we're becoming different persons every 1 plank second. That's not what I'm saying, but it's an extremist philosophy that exists.
As spiritual-digital creatures, maybe they simply return to an original form? Could it be a holy mystery? Or is it Dragon Ball where they merge and fusion is Vegito?
SMT fans are all philosopher godkings and know this stuff. It's a required skill to even start playing the game.

>>724049624
Hopefully never. It looks like liquid fucking ass

Zsnzarah

>>724051298
yeah bruh fr. art direction wack af. i like unity assets.

>>724049624
Shit like that would be too hard to pull off, especially with new Pokemon.
Like, how do you make something like the gen 9 starters work in that style?

Wrong image.

Fossil fighters

>>724049294
It's on point with Terriermon
Cringe little fucker

>>724049624
Too much soul

>>724044116 (OP)
I have what you're looking for. So much fun to 100%.

>>724052007
>asks for a game with Pokemon-like gameplay
>suggest a Metroidvania that has some Pokemon mechanics

Aethermancer is like pokemon but better

>>724044116 (OP)
Most of them are kinda like that
I tried DQM but thought it was boring, I can't even say why.
Digmon gets close but it also has training and while I like the branching evolution trees, it doesn't make much sense in Digimon and most of them end up in the same end-level digimon
Issue with SMT is that they feel more like skills/equipment, sure you negotiate but the series never progressed from there which is a shame.

I think the reason why Pokemon works so well is that it's kinda simple. At least it used to be, you're just some kid training your Pokemon and on your journey you meet some people and dickheads. No "super evil guy awakened and is about to destroy the world" that came later though
Dunno about romhacks, the ones I tried were either Smogon tier bullshit and edgy. Pokemon is supposed to be charming first, edge is only a bit of a side dish for characters who have father issues

>>724052198
damn i came to this thread to post it and the most recent post before updates was about it

>>724045982
Sure, but it would be the better game for lack of a stupid fucking farm system, as well as talent and bond to a lesser degree. But lacking the farm mechanics would gigantically improve the game.

>>724052246
Infinite Fusion stays pretty grounded, though it's not technically a romhack.
It's gen 1 but with "more". More Pokemon, more stuff to do, more places to go, and includes gen 2 as a postgame.
The plot's mostly the same "go get badges and beat the league", but the biggest change was Team Rocket's involvement grown a bit to include them wanting to fuse the three legendary birds together, plus a few other random little evil plots along the way.
As for the gameplay, it's not Smogon-tier, but there's settings for that, including difficulties and level caps, randomizers, nuzlocke, whatever.
The hard mode makes everything fight with actual strategy, though I hear there's ways to cheese it.
My favorite setting is their remixed mode where they add Pokemon throughout the map for more variety so it's harder to prep for what you're going to fight at any given time and you're not just playing "Gen 1.1 With Fusion". I think I remember they dick with gym leaders' Pokemon a bit too much for my tastes in this mode though.

>>724052246
Romhacks really disappoint me because they never have any imagination when it comes to experimenting with Pokemon's formula. Like you said, it's always some competitive level bullshit, when all I want is a version of pokemon that's around the same difficulty with just a little mroe mechanical honesty.

Want to be able to see and alter EVs and IVs in a mechanically interesting way? Too bad, the best you'll get is a boring stat screen that lets you directly modify them.

>>724052779
Infinite Fusion.

>>724052807
Sad to say the gimmick turns me off from it because it's raw idea bloat. How does it handle EV training though?

I was playing Pokeduel until monsters stopped appearing on grass, is that a bug? RIP fanhack.

>>724052948
It doesn't, it's the same as regular pokemon

>>724052154
>Like the format where you have a monster you battle other monsters with and can catch the other monsters?
My suggestion met this condition exactly. Sorry you're too stupid to see it or ESL and reading is hard for you.

>>724044116 (OP)
Ni No Kuni and SMT.

>>724044324
>trannylations
>zoomzoom lingo

>>724052779
I hate how every romhack just adds every modern mechanic change. I don't want fairy types, modern movepools, type split etc in a gen 1, 2 or 3 romhack.

>>724055794
>Fairy typing
>Mega evolutions
>Modern Movepools
>Physical/Special split
>Trainers have perfect EVs/IVs
>Backporting later gen pokemon
>Bloating wild encounters with every available pokemon
It's all so tiresome

>>724056386
Yep, you listed all the other things I thought of after I made my post that I wish I added. It really is all so tiresome.

>>724052007
lmao this game fucking sucks

>>724056386
>Trainers have perfect EVs/IVs
This one is so annoying.Especially for the ultra sun/moon hacks.

>>724055794
>>724056386
what's this about physical/special split?

>>724056974
That's what I meant by type split. People can argue all they want but I like the old mechanics so if I play a romhack of an old game I expect it to not just be the same as the new ones.

>>724052960
>no one knows about the bug
rip................................

>>724044116 (OP)
>>724046109
Seconding World of Final Fantasy

>>724056974
Before Gen 4, attacking moves were denoted as Physical or Special depending on their elemental type. Fire was Special, Rock was Physical, etc. Now, attacks are individually determined as Physical or Special, and romhacks will blindly add this change into versions of the game that weren't built with this in mind.

>>724056974
if you don't know, in gen 1-3, a move was physical or special depending on what type it was. water is special, fighting is physical, etc. starting in gen 4, each move has its own category regardless of type, so waterfall is physical, and fighting type aura sphere is special.

>>724057192
>That's what I meant by type split
but what is it? isn't this that physical attacks use attack/defense for number calculation and special attacks use sp.attack/sp.defense? or is another thing that i'm not aware of? last game i played was emerald

>>724057363
>>724057384
ah i see

>>724057192
I wouldn't even mind them adding in modern mechanics if it wasn't so prevalent and lazy. The only romhack I've seen try to do anything unique in terms of balancing is the Legacy romhacks, where they swapped Dark and Ghost's Special and Physical trait and that's it. It's also done by a jewtuber, which only makes it more depressing. How are non-clout chasing fans lazier and more uninspired than a literal Game Freak shill?