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Why do people glaze Fallout New Vegas lore so bad?

Because Fallout 3 is absolute garbage and New Vegas looks god tier in comparison even though it's only ok

Anyone who seriously thinks New Vegas is better than Fallout 1 should be lobotomized. At least the Fallout 3 defenders on /v/ are only ragebaiting. New Vegas troons seriously believe they shit they spew.

Why is vault dweller with legion?
Are the Kings now an all ghoul faction? Didn't they all get killed when legion took New Vegas?

deathclaw status?

Friendly reminder The Outer Worlds is better than Starfield

>>724047721 (OP)
because it's fun and has enough ambiguity to build theories

>>724047879
Fallout 1 and 2 have shit gameplay. It's that simple, classic fallout's CRPG gameplay was outdated the minute they came out. First person perspective just makes interacting with the world and everything else much better, including combat

>>724048028
name of this female?

>>724048028
Size of her penis?

I don't know if I'll ever be able to enjoy New Vegas after normies get their hands on it.

>>724048028
>Fallout 1 and 2 have shit gameplay. It's that simple
>First person perspective just makes interacting with the world and everything else much better, including combat
Zoom zoom

>>724048149
That's my girlfriend not gonna tell you her name
>>724048179
Real woman thank you, jealous troon?
>>724048208
Millenial and proud, these games are not that good

>>724048262
t. born in october 96

>>724048028
>classic fallout's CRPG gameplay was outdated the minute they came out.
I don't think that's true honestly. I think the modern Wasteland games showed that you can still adapt a CRPG game in an isometric style, and it's still engaging and fun to play. I think you need to be a fan of that style to get the most out of it though, your average FPS fan that's never touched a tactics game in their life is probably going to have a more middling time with it than someone who's a big fan of them.

>>724048262
we all gooned to her, but he married her

>>724047721 (OP)
would be cool if they were aryan brotherhood of steel

>>724048028
Oof, isometric is so yucky! And clunky!

>>724048365
You're talking to a Halobab that doesn't like any RPG that isn't desperately trying to court the normalfaggiest of audiences, don't bother.

I'd love to see them do a Tenpenny Tower episode that's in truth a video about the dangers of foreign immigration.

>>724047721 (OP)
because the bethesda east coast lore is unbelievably retarded. two centuries after the war and everyone is still banging rocks together living on a rusty aircraft carrier and the ruins of a baseball stadium.

>>724048028
Classic Fallout combat is more fitting for an RPG because if you have 1 Str and 15% in Big Guns your character actually literally can't hit shit with a Minigun and probably will hurt themselves when they try to use it - as opposed to a 3D Fallout where they'll just be less accurate and do less damage.

>>724048365
You control an entire party in Wasteland.

baby's ebin factions

fallout 3 felt more immersive like you were really a vault dweller having to survive n shiet

I Want Larian To Make A New FallOut Game =)

>>724048365
>I don't think that's true honestly. I think the modern Wasteland games showed that you can still adapt a CRPG game in an isometric style
I'm not saying you can't have isometric RPGs, just that classic fallout games felt weird and clunky even compared with it's peers at the time, even though you don't even control more than 1 character

>>724048028
disgusting tattoos

>>724048676
Well I think she's beautiful

>>724048006
Not huge achievement, saarfield is dogshit even by bethesda standards

>>724047879
STFU grandpa, NV had better quests than 1 and that's a fact.

>>724047721 (OP)
why does that buck look so broken

have you actually looked at f3/f4's story? it actively hurts your brain at how fucking retarded it is. theres no fucking meat on that bone.

>>724051365
>theres no fucking meat on that bone
just like there's never any meat on YOUR bone right?

>>724051575
yeah, ur mom prefers the taste of my ass

>>724051750
My mom fucks you in the ass? Wow.

>>724047721 (OP)
You might as well ask why 67

>>724051794
we cuddle after

>>724051915
I'm really happy for you guys desu

>>724047721 (OP)
>glaze
What?

>>724047879
>At least the Fallout 3 defenders on /v/ are only ragebaiting.
We are?

>>724052043
you'd have to be as there is nothing more unbelievable that someone actually liking fallout 3

>>724048006
The only way a bar could get lower is if the game is actively painful to play, like Veilguard. TOW is at least fun because you can find somebody annoying (a common occurrence) and then proceed to cave their skull in with a mace.

>>724048006
the first planet in the outer worlds was really well done, so it at least gets that before the game promptly falls apart. starfield was shit the moment you turned it on

>>724047721 (OP)
Why are the kings ghouls?

>>724047721 (OP)
Fallout is a normalfag series now

>>724052235
I think Fallout 3 better utilizes the medium. What fallout new vegas does right could just as easily be turned into a book with no loss to artistic quality. But Fallout 3 actually evokes emotions like fear, desperation, and hope through the gameplay.
It utilizes the medium more effectively

>>724048527
the baseball stadium its explained in terminal and holonotes, like shit as always

>>724052401
nolan placed legion dirty bomb inside freeside

>>724052794
>What fallout new vegas does right could just as easily be turned into a book
new vegas does not have a good story

>>724047721 (OP)
This show sucks worse than that watchmen show.

>>724052396
>level up to level 2
>crouch sneak its a mandatory skill point to spend

>>724048028
that's someone's son

>>724047721 (OP)
they are making all the kings ghouls?

>>724052794
Do bethesjeets really?

>>724053405
Proud, Whites, Christian Male actually.

>>724047721 (OP)
why are Bethesda hacks that can't make anything original

>>724053962
KEK

>>724052235
fallout 3 has way better atmosphere and every run has some randomness to it, unlike NV. I still prefer NV but you subhumans are complete niggers, without 3 we wouldn't have gotten NV.

>>724051882
Shut up

>>724047721 (OP)
They erased the NCR lmao

>>724055287
>fallout 3 has way better atmosphere
It really doesn't.

>>724056720
It does. The artist for 3 was great, RIP. I like both though but if I want bleak, I'm going with 3.

>>724047721 (OP)
>>724047879
fippy bippy

>>724047721 (OP)
feels like it was written by an adult that has read a book for pleasure

>>724048006
no it isnt.

>>724053282
At least he raised a decent looking tranny and not some disgusting fat slob tranny

>>724047721 (OP)
>STEEL'D

>>724048028
Fallout 1 is great zoomlenial

>>724053405
Unlike Obsidian, todd is a movie fag who praises the OG stalker movie and roadside picnic

>>724047721 (OP)
>Maximus again
This guy was the worst part of the original show. He doesn't even have a reason to be in New Vegas. What the fuck is Todd thinking?

>>724048006
I can't think of a lower bar to reach.

>>724048028
You must get tired of being wrong all the time

>>724048006
>shit is better than shit!
Bragging about this is wild.

>>724048028
First person "RPG"s are not even RPGs.

it's just better than the east coast lore thanks to Bethesda's retardation

Fallout 1 & 2 = Classics that feel like it. Slow. Boring.
Fallout 3 = The start of modern Fallout. A bit jank, but fun story, and the sweet spot of RPG that's perfect for newbies and RPG autists alike.
Fallout New Vegas = Obsidian showing why they lost the license. Shit characters, shit story. Adores by trannies for some fucking reason
Fallout 4 = Visually improved, gameplay dumbed down. Leans more into being an FPS than an RPG.

>>724053282
I've had it up to you here with you guys calling her a guy. That's my girlfriend and the future mother of my kids
>>724065525
Good to know, it's only an RPG when it's slow and clunky and made for table top and not for gaming. Got it

>>724067795
>it's slow and clunky and made for table top and not for gaming
The classics aren't slow and clunky and they are made for gaming.

>>724067795
It sure looks like a guy. Are you sure it's not just a picture of you?

>>724068005
She's beautiful and I love her and you're gay

>>724067958
they are slow and clunky. I have to install a bunch of mods to speed up the game and add a lot of much needed qol features like auto opening doors instead of having to click on every door to open it

>>724048006
Both are dogwater but Starfield at least has mods. Haven’t played OW2 tho but given how grounded 2 is basically just a rehash of 1 I don’t have much hope.

>>724048640
>classic fallout games felt weird and clunky even compared with it's peers at the time
They did not. No one thought that at the time. You remind me of the kids that claim Diablo 1 felt dated and clunky at the time when no one thought that because they didn't Diablo 2, PoE, etc as a reference point. I remember thinking that Fallout 2's graphics looked dated compared to Baldur's Gate but I didn't think that the combat or UI felt clunky at all.

>>724070852
Diablo 1 and old Baldurs gate games play way better than fallout 1 and 2. Why do you think Bethesda hasn't made some cheap remakes of fallout 1 and 2? Because they would have to make too many changes for it to be worth it. Old Bethesda or obsidian could've done remakes in the creation engine, but they don't even have the talent for that anymore

>>724067795
>Decisions that matter outside of combat.
>Combat should only be 50% of the gameplay.
>25% exploration and 25% problem solving with variety ways to come to same conclusion but the game doesn't tell you how to think about it (pandering).
If its not that its not a Roleplaying Game and most vidya RPGs don't have character creation thus you are just immersing yourself in the back seat of a scripted protagonist. This is not how RPGs should work. Skyrim had the idea right but lacked depth.

>>724067510
>Adores by trannies for some fucking reason
Well we’ve yet to have more deeply written homosexuals than Arcade, Veronica, Christine and Cass. Hell Arcade even calls you a racist fascist for helping the legion and the game has a clear moral compass.

>>724071061
>Diablo 1 and old Baldurs gate games play way better than fallout 1 and 2

Diablo 1, BG, and Fallout aren't comparable. They all play differently from each other and I treated them that way both at the time and now. It's like you're trying to lump all isometric games under one "old game" umbrella.

IS THAT A HECKIN' WHOLESOME DOGGERINO????

3 was fun the first time but the intro sucks to go through and the DC wasteland is pretty sparse. None of the settlements feel like they're part of a world and are pretty disconnected from each other. The story is ridiculous too, people have been living in the wasteland without the water purifier for decades and don't see worse for wear without it. Not to mention prior to Broken Steel you HAVE to sacrifice yourself and after Broken Steel if you send anyone else in the game tells you in a very passive aggressive manner how much of a hero you aren't.

>>724071273
>Diablo 1, BG, and Fallout aren't comparable
Why not? Why can't I say these games play better than fallout?
>>724071396
I think 3 was a decent first attempt at the setting. I think 4 was fucking abysmal, even the art style looks awful, it's a silly exploration and crafting game, not fallout and not an RPG

>>724070501
>bunch of mods
You only have to install Sfall to speed up the animations, you ADHD addled moron.

>>724071076
But your definition includes VTMB, or is that one also excluded because it's first person?

>>724070003
Yeah! That's a picture of you!

>>724047721 (OP)
Are you going to elaborate on what you mean?

>>724047721 (OP)
I don't know. It's pretty retarded but that's pretty much a staple of Fallout, retarded inconsistent lore regardless of whoever is behind it. NVfags just like to pretend that they're on a high horse over Bethesdafags when they're both wallowing in dung.

>>724048006
Nearly anything is better than Starfield. The game still feels like a giant alpha build with no soul to it at all.

>>724071804
>Why not? Why can't I say these games play better than fallout?
Because they don't. One is a turn based RPG with it's own ruleset, another one is a party based, real time with pause CRPG that is based on AD&D second edition, and the other game is a full real time action looter. They're radically different games. It's like trying to compare X-com with secret of monkey island. It's absurd.

It's obvious that you dislike the classic games because you don't enjoy turn based RPGs. Just say that instead of making ridiculous comparisons that make no sense. Those three games are only really comparable graphically and I'll admit that Fallout 2 looked dated at the time compared to Baldur's Gate and even Diablo 1. However, they were enjoyable to play. They didn't feel "slow and janky" at the time. I remember liking the UI at the time, too. That aged less gracefully especially the inventory.

>>724047721 (OP)
These look so bad I thought it was some AI shit at first.

>>724072552
technically it is.

>>724072202
Bethesda is a mess. Fallout 4 also sucked but drones still bought it. I guess starfield was too . much even for them

>>724072241
I've played plenty of RPGs including Rebirth and E33 but still didn't like FO1. It was kind of mediocre and convinced me not to play 2.