Thread 724057127

I don't know if it's sad, but the unfortunate truth is that based on all the streams from the streamers I've watched, and if we apply the law of probability to the entire population that has played this game, many haven't grasped the story.
And the beauty of it is that those who didn't understand it were still moved and touched. They made their own personal interpretation.
That's art.

>>724057127 (OP)
Based streamer culture enjoying russian op

>>724057258
I'm Uzbek

>>724057127 (OP)
>based on all the streams from the streamers I've watched

You could've just lied and said you played the game like most of the people here do.

>>724057127 (OP)
>based on all the streams from the streamers I've watched
opinion discarded, didn't even read further. retarded thread

>>724057127 (OP)
Even though I fucking hate Phil Spencer, hea right on this being goty. Its a damn good game, and went in completely blind.

>>724059872
Link?

>>724057127 (OP)
It's a dogshit airport novel story. Crying over people not "getting" it is like crying over people missing the nuances of twilight or 50 shades. Kys manlet pleb.

>asset store slop
>art

>>724057127 (OP)
The story is not complicated, man
Act 3 just sucks, the ending sucks
they forgot to connect what happened in the prologue to the ending
and they failed at making the player care about the family

>>724057127 (OP)
True. It's one of those phenomenon that occur so rarely it almost comes across as ascendant.

>>724057127 (OP)

It's essentially a "sentience test". Like if you don't get it you really are an NPC who's just set on this Earth to elevate the people with actual personalities.

>>724057127 (OP)
The people who hate the story of this game grew up in a broken home and don't understand the underlying themes when it comes to identity. You cant comprehend love, grief, loss, etc. when your parents dont love you and nothing is sacred.

>>724063103
I agree. It feels like a question of emotional intelligence and having that internal fundamental value. Like >>724062739 said it feels like an actual filter (although sentience filter might be going a little too far imo).

nice story whatever but in the end it's just jrpgslop where you can parry thus invalidating the whole jrpgslop mechanics

>>724063103

I would say it's also a matter of human understanding. People with deep introspection and the ability to reflect properly on their own feelings on an informational level tend to be more positive to the E33.

>>724057127 (OP)
>write a garbabe depressionquest-tier "uhh it's about le escapism ;<" story
>your creative vision demands that the "real" story requires a "fake" opening story to bait-and-switch the player
>accidentally make the fake story more compelling than the real one
hilarious, never seen this kind of shooting yourself in the foot before

>>724057127 (OP)
Little does OP realize, he also doesn't understand the story.

I've never met a brown person that has liked COE33. I hope one day I do but it seems like there's some cultural barrier or some fundamental way of thinking that makes them not fully capable of understanding the characters or the emotions they feel.
They usually bitch about the story or the plot or the personalities and so on and the arguments they raise always feel like they either weren't paying attention or like they weren't really reflecting on what was going on. I am choosing to believe it is coincidence.

>>724064039
racist

>>724060867
>and they failed at making the player care about the family
If anything I think it's genius that the player's perspective mirrors that of Alicia's throughout the whole game.

>You start the game assume the world "is". Much like Maelle, who was born and raised in it.
>Turns out it's not. The world is effectively a highly elaborate simulation that is not feasible to stay in forever (it is literally killing your mother).
>The only member of the family you'll probably care about is conicidentally the one you spend the most time with (Verso). Mirroring how Alicia was closest to him out of all of her family.

The ending really just comes down to if you're a pragmatic or emotional person.
Destroying the painting gives the family a chance to move on from the incident. There's no guarantee, but it gives them a chance.
Staying in the painting "feels" good, but comes with a high price (Alicia will probably die and the family will sink further into dysfunction)

>>724057127 (OP)
>and if we apply the law of probability
Shut the fuck up you tiresome faggot... just.... just shut the fuck up

>>724057127 (OP)
So why isn't the same grace offered to FF7 Rebirth and the last 2-3 hours of the game? So many people bitch because they don't get it or the story 'doesn't make sense', Nomura, etc - but it's a great game and makes you form your own interpretation of the ending. Hell, it's ambiguous for that reason, I'm sure.

But people just say it's shit.

>>724057127 (OP)
based and artpilled

>>724065342
Because the whole FF7R saga is nothing more than false advertisement.

>>724064039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ_Z4srGqQU

>>724062739
It absolutely is, just not in the way that you think. If you think this story is deep enough to qualify as a "sentience test" then you have failed the sentience test. It's puddle deep slop that only a retarded NPC would mistake for deep.

>>724066352
>t. failed the test

>>724066396
>i'm....retarded?
i'm sorry that you had to find out this way, anon. But surely you already knew on some level, right...? What's your educaiton level and profession?

>>724064946
Found the retard

>>724060867
>they failed at making the player care about the family
I cared about Alicia, verso and Renoir.
At the very least, people will care about Alicia and verso and even the biggest retard gets why Renoir does what he does

>>724057127 (OP)
>Dude you have to play E33 it's so good
>why is it good?
>bro the story is just so deep
>i don't care about the story, is the game good?
>uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh.......
into the trash it goes. there isn't a single thread about this game, EVER, that talks about the gameplay.

>>724066871
>not-jrpg
>people discuss story and characters

>>724067023
>i know the game is trash but, in its defense, so is every other game in this genre!
okay

>>724060867
>>724066871
A disturbing amount of people seem disconnected from people's discussion of this game.

>>724067738
ugly WEG ass looking bitch

>>724060123
>airport novel story.
read a lot of those fag?

>>724060271
which assets were from the store? Rocks? Terrain? I hear they didn't invent their own compiler or IDE to make the game either.

>>724063563
>fake opening story
The expedition to defeat the paintress was a real story with a beginning, middle, and end that functioned pretty much exactly as advertised. Epilogue and Act III are effectively a sequel to that story. The structure was of course heavily influenced by Automata and Signalis' unusual narrative structures. Admitting that you got filtered by them doesn't really sway the people who weren't.

>>724064039
Correct

>>724064229
Correct

>>724065342
>FF7 Rebirth
Has a worse story, was misrepresented and poorly presented, has infinitely worse mocap and voice acting, is a moviegame assembled from a checklist of anime tropes, leans heavily into everything that everyone hates about Ubislop, and abandoned the mechanics that Final Fantasy fans want.

COE33 was a better Final Fantasy game.

>>724066871
>uhhhhhhhhhhh
Yes. It's good. If you have ever liked turn based games, then you'll enjoy E33's turn based combat.

>>724057127 (OP)
White.

>>724057127 (OP)
Not just streamers. The director had to specify the painted people are human because the people picking the incorrect ending (Verso's)

the story is a worse final fantasy tactics advance with some generic family drama thrown in

>>724060867
seething maellefag

>>724063563
What about the opening story is "fake"?

>>724057127 (OP)
My favorite aspect is how much they choose to spoil for you, depending on you engaging with it at a more surface level to not notice it. Things like the lyrics to linen and cotton, despite being in plain english, went over everyone's head.

>>724057127 (OP)
Soul recognizes soul.

>>724068645
>correct
Based
>which assets
I saw a webm of all the evidence the jeets could find, the cuttlefish from the flying waters intro cinematic and the sheep in the abbest cave are apparently ue5 models. Truly game defining elements.

only midwits that get tricked by cool art direction and music think this game is any good. If you want a good story about family and grief go watch manchester by the sea or something like that, it would literally blow your mind if you genuinely think this game's writing is anything special

>>724057127 (OP)
Thirdies cannot accept it.

>>724073208
have you noticed them trying to coopt whiteposting?

>>724073262
I have. They are not as subtle as they think they are.

>>724073891
They smell like shit, they can't really expect to go unnoticed.

>>724057127 (OP)
Huh?