Thread 724074740

He's right. This is a bearish sign for steam. If they can just destroy a market that they themselves built they made themselves volatile. Who will invest in steam when $2000 knives aren't safe, your games aren't either.

Well have subscriptions for online play next

Valve wont reverse it no matter how much you changs keep seething

Don't care
Didn't read
Thanks for playing

Games are meant to be fun not a replacement for favela currency.

>>724074740 (OP)
I think valve would prefer people not be speculatively trading their entire life savings for a bunch of polygons

Valve didnt even make money from the thousand dollar knifes people sold via 3rd party sites.
The actual money the market and key purchases makes is not even 1% of Steams revenue, I don't see why Valve would give a shit about pocket change.

>>724074740 (OP)
>using pixels as currency
ngmi

>>724074859
>>724074863
Doesn't matter. Valve has now chosen to say that everything and anything on your steam account is fair game to be diluted and revoked at any time. This applies to your steam library as well as every single game like TF2 or Dots 2. What's to say they don't do the same to unusuals or whatever dota 2 has.

They shattered investment with this.

>>724074740 (OP)
>he scalps virtual knives to losers on the internet
you fucking deserve your financial losses

I can't believe there are retards who were so heavily invested in this shit that these changes financially ruined them. Like, bro... you poured your life savings into CS skins...

Chatgpt slop, not reading that shit.

>>724075169
No, it's an angry cryptobro who got fucked by valve crashing the virtual cutlery economy

The only people this negatively affects is .01% of CS players who hoarded knifes as NFTs rather than using them as skins for a game. The market was never meant to be a crypto free market. It was a system for you to buy cases to open, sell skins you didn't want OR sell skins when you're done playing a game, and use the money as a small roi to get a new game or skins elsewhere. ESLs thought it was an amazing idea to take fomo skins off site and gamble with them, RMT with them etc. You think valve doesn't see you trading that 150k knife for nothing? This whole new system does nothing but benefit the people who matter. The fucking niggers playing the goddamn game. Now valve makes their money you STOLE by dodging the fees off of people buying cheap skins on the market. Get fucked

>>724074740 (OP)
>Bitcoin's value comes from it's decentralization and fixed supply
OH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>724075169
>AI BAD
Retarded luddite

>>724075062
>They shattered investment with this.
This doesn't affect them and everyone knew this could happen any fucking day. If you put all your eggs in Valve's basket you're a retard and deserved to lose it all.

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam when $2000 knives aren't safe, your games aren't either.
This is how you know this is a timmy shill and not just someone talking about the current topic.
The obvious chatGPT dump into the steam forums to repost here gave that away too obviously

>>724075118
At this point its not about the skin update and the aftermath, its what it stood for and signaled. If valve is not a neutral mediator for an organic market and they can step in on any market or any part of steam and do whatever they want its no longer a good thing.

Valve is successful because they promised to be a safe haven for people to use their marketplace which they built. Its for trading and making money. Now that confidence is gone instantly for every single game with a marketplace on steam. Who's to say your games aren't next?

This has set a precedence of panic and uncertainty because valve says they can do anything they want instead of being a neutral mediator.

>>724074740 (OP)
This is true. If Valve can arbitrarily diminish the value of your skins, the logical next step is that Gaben will sodomize you in your sleep. I will never purchase another game on steam ever again.

>>724075265
Yet its still 100k and climbing, meanwhile gaben on a whim decides what has value instead of letting the market and rarity decide. This is not how you build confidence.

Steam marketplace will be ruined since valve decides things on a whim now. People with money flee, nobody buys cases, skins, hats etc.

Nothing fucking backfires on Valve.
They've broken every promise they've made with Steam, and more people than ever are on it.

>>724075062
>This applies to your steam library
This. At any moment, Valve could suddenly put all the games you have in your library on sale, which dilutes the value of your games. This needs to be illegal.

>>724075383
Valve made a fair market that "investors" subverted by using third party sites to illegally trade and gamble for real money. Not their fault you guys couldn't follow the ToS.

Can someone give me tl;dr what happened?
I dont follow cs and assfaggots memes

>>724075624
valve market place had expensive rare knives that were super rare and worth like 8k dollaros sometimes
valve made an update that allows people to craft those ultra rare knives using items that aren't rare
the price collapsed, 2 billion dollars wiped

>>724075261
Then what was it supposed to be. Why even have cases or rarities if if was never about value.

Gaben fucked up here. He destroyed all consumer trust in steams marketplace, destroyed the lives if hundreds of thousands of people and caused real suicide deaths.

>>724075695
KEK
E
K

The CS economy was a market predicated on chinks manipulating and pumping it to the billions lmao

>>724074740 (OP)
>the "b" in this specific bing bing wahoo is my existence
>actually it's ing ing wahoo
>NOOOOOO

>who will invest in steam
no one because it's a private company lmao

>>724075695
Thirdworldbros... Can we recover from this?

>>724075706
>removes majority of fomo and lowers prices universally of skins
>HE DESTROYED ALL TRUST WAHHHH
Seems like the most consumer friendly change possible.

>>724074740 (OP)
>referring to ability to sell and trade an in-game item as investing

Did "real" people actually do this?

AIIIIEEEEEEE I CANT TREAT SKINS AS ALTCOINS ANYMORE

SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>724074740 (OP)
Based Valve

>>724075706
They destroyed the trust of retarded cryptobros.
Mwanwhile everyone else is happy that this retarded bubble doesnt exist anymore.

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam
Valve is a private company.
>when $2000 knives aren't safe
They were never safe. They're intangible ones and zeroes.

>>724075849
Why even have the steam marketplace and trade on it for any game, any emote, any skin, any hat? none of your assets on the marketplace are safe and just pixels that gaben can decide one day to do whatever with, they aren't assets that you own to gaben.


He destroyed the entire steam marketplaces trust and the entire trust of steam as a neutral safe platform to hold digital items

>>724074740 (OP)
Counterpoint: Valve has never intended CS2 skins to become an """"economy"""", they haven't interacted with the """"economy"""" at all other than the fact they have actively shut down grey market websites and mule/idle/trading accounts, which is indeed a message stating they don't see the skins as a way for people earn money off of.
THEY NEVER HAVE INTENDED FOR PEOPLE TO GET MONEY OFF OF STEAM LIKE THIS.

Anyone "investing" money into a videogame skin/weapon """economy""" where the owner of the game has been vocal and upfront about preventing people getting real world money from the items is a fucking retard.
You could have put the money into an actual investment plan through a bank, property or stocks/crypto
But you chose a videogame skin market.

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam when $2000 knives aren't safe, your games aren't either.
You're not supposed to invest in video games. If you don't own it, it's not yours. You can own Bitcoin and other crypto, you can't own a knife or skin in a video game that's not yours.

stop fucking investing in ephemeral items. this includes pixels.
it's literally that fucking easy.

Reminder

Maybe retards will figure out dinally that corporations are not your friend. It's not like valve hasn't fucked people ocer before.

>>724076030
Please stop Anon, I can only get so erect.

>>724076036
Bullshit. They have cases, rarities and know the drop rates and give out tradeable and marketable RARE event stickers. They created this entire market.

Now they can decide for ANY marketplace on steam if your assets are worth anything rather than bring neutral
They destroyed trust in their platform in a single day

>>724076030
because valve realizes they will make more money if your average player actually spends money to get these skins rather than 1% of the playerbase playing pretend with a fake government own market on 3rd party sites? dumbfuck.

>>724076095
That's a Ubisoft quote.

How often do suicides happen after these kinds of incidents with speculative markets anyway? Does this ever happens to cryptobros?

The Artifactschizo gained many rivals this week!

Do the people who "invest" in cs skins even play the game?

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam
No one. That's literally the whole point, because it's stupid as shit.

LMAOOOO STAY SEETHING CRYPTO KEKS

NO ONE IS ON YOUR SIDE
EVERYONE IS LAUGHING AT YOU SKINCELS

>>724074740 (OP)
The fact that there apparently more than a few 'people' who were retarded enough to think skins in a fucking shooting game were ever an 'investment' will never not be hilarious.
The fact that some of them commited suicide when their retarded purchases nosedived makes it better if course. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature could tell you multiple reasons putting money into something like that with an expectation of a return profit is a horrible idea and totally ridiculous.

>>724076215
no, they have this weird delusion that cs would die without them

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam
steam isn't a speculative investment platform. its a gaming platform.

How's my nigga ohnepixel holding up?

>>724076215
>>724076217
Its not about CS skins anymore. He fucked himself. Now no one will buy anything on the marketplace and people will always have trust issues.

Steam marketplace is no longer a fair and neutral safe trading hub where you can rest assured your things are safe for any game for any thing you own in your steam inventory that you paid real money for

>>724075383
Valve didn't create the market you degens subjerted by gambling or using third party sellers.

>>724076354
the vast majority of people that buy from the steam marketplace buy because they want a cool skin not to make an investment you retard

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam
They're a privately held company. They literally do not want you investing in them.

>>724075062
I hope they DO make it possible to craft unusuals. TF2 traders more than anyone else on Steam deserve to get fucked over, and fucked over hard.

>>724075062
You consuming semen in counterstrike 2 isn't "investment into steam".

>>724076293
They also seem to believe the game will have the same or greater level of popularity forever for some reason when thinking about it for 5 seconds ends with opposite conclusion

>>724076362
Valve did create the steam marketplace so you're just wrong. And now no one will use it. Why use it when you pay $500 for a rare steam emote and the next day it's worth $2 because gaben said so.

Its not about if its stupid or not. He destroyed free trade.

>>724075062
>>724075618
we have known that since 2003. You clearly didnt get the memo the last 22 fucking years.

>Retards dont know about the cs 1.5 to 1.6 schism and WON shutdown.

>>724076354
>Now no one will buy anything on the marketplace
People will buy things on the marketplace that they intend to use in game, rather than for the purpose of reselling it to other shitskins.

>>724076354
Did valve steal people's skins out of their inventory? No? Seems they're still plenty safe to me.

>>724074740 (OP)
Can't wait for new schizo posting
>Valve screwed over the CS2 Knife Stock Market fanbase by introducing crafting without even allowing users to sell inventory like we assumed we could and does not deserve your financial support for these gross market-unfriendly practices.

Valbe didn't pump the market cap to six billion you retarded faggot.

>>724074740 (OP)
>investors
>a market that they themselves built
>made themselves volatile
>invest in steam
>trust
>Valve's role as a steward exercising restraint and fairness
>confidence of spending 100 bucks on a digital knife isn't in the pixels but in Valve's promise

>>724076476
>paying $500 for an emote
>ever
Holy fucking shit you thirdies are retarded.

>>724074740 (OP)
You're right. It just made people trust Steam less, which is impressive in an era where all they do is make their own service shittier and less functional. Gabe Newell was a genius for what he created. Gabe Newell is not involved in modern Valve, who are a bunch of dumb fucking faggots before considering how much they outsource now anyway. The decay just gets a little worse every year.

>>724074859
You're also right. Valve is a lot like Blizzard in the pre-Diablo 3 era. They personally believe they are too big to care about anything, and currently, they are correct. Their competitors are mongoloid-tier and, like Blizzard used to have, there's a large group of people who will suck their dicks dry no matter what they say or do.

>>724075027
If Valve cared about the people who were unhealthily invested, they would not have fucked them in such a way.
If Valve cared about printing money, they would have kept it untouched.
As it stands, there really isn't a sane reason for having done this. It's likely a result of the company being so decentralized, as employees regularly discuss publicly.
>Nobody exists on "teams"
>Some guy decides to change the system
>Pushes a random update to the system
Valve employees regularly state that everyone just does whatever they want without connection to each other or any consultation from any sort of leads or managers. This is how they had that infamous scenario where some ass-blasted Valve employee was hard-banning people from DOTA because he didn't like their picks, which only got reversed weeks after the story exploded.

>>724075624
>>724075695
also apparently there are retards who were too bitch-made to invest in the real stock-market and actually had their life savings invested in this shit, and are now financially ruined. Suicides have been confirmed.

>>724076476
You just mad you were stupid enough to put your life savings on some skins for an old game.

>>724076030
>assets
lol

LOL

>>724076568
But they did destroy their entire reputation in a single day manipulating it when they had no business. Its not about if its good or bad.

Its the right thing to do. You don't mess with peoples money and free trade when you agreed to build a safe and stable marketplace.

Now nobody will use steam marketplace EVER or trade/hold onto items

>>724076598
>If Valve cared about printing money, they would have kept it untouched.
???? valve was literally not making money off this, the faggots were trading on third party

I wonder, does Gaben and the people at Valve aware that people are literally killing themselves over this?

>>724075062
>They shattered investment with this.
>>724075383
> If valve is not a neutral mediator
>This has set a precedence of panic and uncertainty
Are you trolling? I can't tell anymore.

>>724074740 (OP)
No. People are supposed to be playing Counter-Strike 2, not gambling. The developer, Valve, put that system in place for people to get fun weapon skins, then trade with their friends, not spending actual money.

>>724076476
>Why use it when you pay $500 for a rare steam emote
The opinions of the type of person who would consider ever doing that is irrelevant to like 99. 9% of people

>>724076709
why should anyone honestly care? This was completely unavoidable.

So /v/

What knife/glove you planning on picking up on Black Halloween when they start flooding the market?

COUNTER STRIKE SKINS AREN'T AN INVESTMENT

THEY'RE FUCKING SKINS IN A VIDEO GAME

>>724076695
>Now nobody will use steam marketplace EVER or trade/hold onto items
delusional anon that thinks the vast majority of people are investing into cs skins.

>>724076695
I've used Steam for 15 years and never interacted with the marketplace.

>>724076813
Tiger Tooth Bowie and Overture Gloves both at MW I hope they are super cheap like $50 for both

>>724076695
my opinion for Valve only went up. This doesnt affect 99.99% of people.

>>724076813
probably a nice m9, used to have a m9 doppler in 2017

>>724076728
40% of valves entire revenue as a business comes from marketplace tax, cases, skins.

RETARD.

>>724076803
Idk because I would have reservations of doing what they did if I knew that people would die over this. This is government level stuff here.

>>724076695
>when they had no business.

>>724074740 (OP)
Valve didn't kill anyone until proven other wise and Billy Mitchell case proves so.

>>724075062
It always was retard. Noone can stop Fatben from pulling the plug when he wills.

After this update I am now more likely to buy a knife because they arent artifically inflated by kikes anymore. Same for a ton of people I know.

More people bow trust the market because Valve regulated it.

>>724076813
Will depends on how low butterflies get down to

>>724077025
Depends. If what they did hurt the investment of a major investors they could be sued for Market Manipulation.

>>724076994
>this is government level stuff here
>Video game company makes skins 1000% more accessible to its playerbase

lol holy SHIT you are retarded.

>>724076974
Why are you so concerned about Valve's financial well being?

>>724074740 (OP)
alright someone break this down for my retard brain
Valve did (x), and the 'prices of CS loot' went down?
Solve for x.

>>724076974
No shit, and?

>>724076974
>40% of valves entire revenue as a business comes from marketplace tax, cases, skins.
LMAOOOOOOOO SKINCELS ARE SOMETHING ELSE

>>724075062
Always has. "Investing" in Valve would be actually buying their stock prices. I'm so tired of retards making threads to notify people of things they know.

>>724074740 (OP)
>>724075062
>invest
it's a video game. everyone involved deserves this and much worse

>>724076974
valve does not release their earnings they are a private company

>valve fucks scalpers up the ass
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a good thing?

If you don't possess a physical copy of media, you don't own it. Simple as.

>people are unironically defending the decision to "invest" their life savings in skins for a children's video game.
You took a retarded risk and lost. Now you're screeching at Valve because your fisher price market fell apart. I'd kms out of shame if my life was financially ruined over this. How fucking stupid can you be?

>>724077081
Why are you coping and moving the goalpost acting like the marketplace is no big deal?

Valve shot themselves in the foot and destroyed consumer confidence in their rarity market. Nothing is safe now. No one will use the marketplace.

>>724076158
Check my assets

>>724077076
but the steam marketplace is not the stock exchange? it's a private offshoot of a private enterprise.

I cant tell which is dumber, investing in cs knives or investing in nfts.

>>724077086
People who love rare items pay big money. Use 5 shit items to get rare item. Everyone with rare item is now in shambles and hopefully an Heroes.

>>724074740 (OP)
These people spent real money on what are essentially proto-NFTs. Have they learned nothing?

>>724075558
>Yet its still 100k and climbing
It's all due to SPECULATION.
It's hardly used for anything. You can't use a currency with value swinging wildly like that.

>>724076598
Holy fucking seething shitskin

>>724075062
Damn I kinda wanna use Steam Marketplace now haha

>>724077078
The scarcity of the skins plus allowing real money trade created a market. As a custodian of said market you need to properly manage it so there isn't huge changes in supply or demand. It will be as if today someone just dumped 100x the amount of Gold in the world on a major metro area.

>>724077168
where are these stats that almost half of valves revenue is from the marketplace

>>724077076
The "market" existed in violation of the Terms of Service everyone has to agree to. You were never allowed to sell skins for real money on third party websites. Valve has zero obligation to these people.

>>724074740 (OP)
>bearish sign for steam
>destroy a market that they themselves built
>when the knives were never worth more than what the community decided they were worth
Retards.

>>724077086
x=add crafting
>>724077105
>valve
>stocks
breh

>>724077168
well, the people, like you, crying about this and being entirely wrong dont have to worry about spending any money, on anything. Its beneficial to the rest.

>>724077105
valve is a private company, you cannot invest into their stocks

>>724077223
>>724077302
lmao thanks bros

>>724077168
>Nothing is safe now. No one will use the marketplace
Again, why are you so concerned about this on Valve's behalf?

>>724077267
>a custodian of said market you need to properly manage it

Yeah they just did. The six billion marlet cap was a fucking meme. Smoke and mirrors.

>>724077168
>VALVE IS LE RUINED OVER THISSSSSSSSS!!!!
I haven't seen cope this hard in a while. I think Valve is gonna be just fine. It's you retards who invested money in pixels who are ruined, lmao.

>>724077267
A market for fucking who? Its Valves little digital market, not some third world stock exchange like you are pretending.

>A custodian.
Holy shit, its not your market, its not your game, its not your rules.

>>724077034
And overall valve will lose because they betrayed all the people that trusted them

A Little Timmy like you who spends $10 on a skin once isn't going to make up for the loss of volume in trading AKA no one buys cases anymore AKA valve loses millions

>>724077282
Valve knew what they were doing you idiot. Had they had a problem with this they would have shut it down ages ago. They did the bare minimum with third party sites as a way to deny accountability and financial regulations. This is why we have regulations in the first place.

>>724076030
>assets
Anon, it was supposed for you to just get some pocket money or make exchanging skins easier.
Trying to turn it into actual speculative instrument is even more retarded that treating bitcoin as actual currency.

>>724076158
>trusting in actual, digital gambling boxes is fine
>Valve updating their game is the second Holocaust

Fucking hell watching all these third world retards shit their pants for the past few days has been amazing. Keep it up OP, tell us more about your retarded ass financial decision making

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam when $2000 knives aren't safe, your games aren't either.
The skin market was taking place largely off-site, Steam saw no cut from those sales, so the market getting screwed literally has no effect on it.

How do you invest in skins? Is this the NFT meme for bigger retards? How do you RETURN that investment?

the truth is
your average consumer is glad they can get a nice skin for 8 dolars instead of paying 2K to the faggot that hoarded them with his parent retirement money

>>724077423
>A Little Timmy like you
Of course the raging creature that """"invested""" in digital skins is brown lmao

>>724077423
why are you so concerned about Valve if you are so mad at them? You should cheer on this downfall of theirs you have concocted.

>>724077168
I bought a knife for 50% off
I hope you kill yourself next

>>724077431
>wooooooow a for profit company did something greyish for profit until it decided it wasn't worth the risk anymore oh woe is meeeeee

>>724077328
Cool, it's beneficial to you, not to valve. They are going to LOSE TENS OF MILLIONS EACH YEAR bleeding for this decision.

They betrayed the entire communities trust. Everyone who trades will be hesitant to buy cases or put any real money into steam marketplaces.

>>724074740 (OP)
(You) are no better than a gachafag, remember that.

there's like 2 devs that work on cs. Do we know the person who did this yet?

bro typed a whole ass novel to say he's butthurt about his digital weapons in a game filled with 3rd worlders are worthless

>>724076030
>none of your assets on the marketplace are safe and just pixels that gaben can decide one day to do whatever with
This has always been the case and absolute retards thought it wise to invest actual money is this "marketplace" lmao

>>724077423
YOU FAGGOTS WERE TRADING ON THIRD PARTY SITES, VALVE WASN'T SEEING ANY OF THAT MONEY TO BEGIN WITH

OH NOOOOO WHAT IS VALVE GOING TO DO
THE BILLION DOLLAR MARKET THEY SEE NO MONEY FROM IS GOING BYEBYE

>>724077423
>A Little Timmy like you

>>724077516
you couldnt really, it was all speculation, like pokemon cards, but even gayer and more retarded because those have physical value. Think of it as 1 tiny step above NFTs, or maybe even worse, guess it depends on your perspective.

Remember, its literal retarded turdy thirdies being affected by this.

>>724077516
>Is this the NFT meme for bigger retards?
yes
You cash out by finding a bigger retard than you to buy it for a profit. that's the only way. It was only a matter of time before it collapsed even without valve interference

>>724077605
>BETRAYAL OF TRUST SAR
>THE "MARKET" SAR

>>724077605
AAAAAIIIIIEEEE! Delete this right now!

LMAO THEY BLOCKED DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ON CS YOU CAN LITERALLY CLICK ANY OTHER PATCH NOTE EXCEPT THIS ONE HAHAHHAHAHAHHA

>>724077582
im sure they weep at that thought.
>Proceeds to take 30% of every single game sold on its platform
>now gets money they were not getting because third world trade sites matter less

they went from 0% to another 30%. They saw NOTHING of those
>millions
since it wasnt done through them.

SAAARRRRSSS, VALVE STEALED MY RUPEES
SHIVA WILL PUNISHING THEM AND THEY WILL BE THE BANKRUPT

>>724077582
>They are going to LOSE TENS OF MILLIONS EACH YEAR bleeding for this decision.
Please keep posting this wishful thinking cope. It's hilarious watching retards who lost all their money on a retarded investment now pray for Valve to collapse along with them. (They won't be affected by this is the slightest.)

>>724077078
>As a custodian of said market
Holy shit.
Anon was right about you faggots raiding this place at random trying to bait people in to your scheme.

>>724077778
No this will mean they lose money and massively. This is the decline for steam

>>724077645
saar mofos have got to have strong gut biomes no? shockingly might even be superhuman levels and would be an overall boon to the human race, if yknow, you can somehow discard the rest

>>724077831
okay saar, go throw shit at each other and call it a culture.

FUCK YOU GABEN MY FRIEND OVERDOSED ON PILLS HE'S STILL AT THE HOSPITAL...

Reminder that Steam does not allow, either by TOS or in practice, any sort of real money exchange between users or Steam wallet to cash conversion. You could cry or kill yourself or lawyer up all you want, and Steam can still dismiss your case entirely just by pointing that out.

>>724077645
>>724077545
Qrd?

What connects the phrase little timmy to brownoids?

>>724077715
Its over

>>724077831
how fucking stupid is this anon.
>losing money
>on money they were not getting in the first place
>losing

you really are a fucking retarded indian.

>>724077947
this as well, if anything, they were insanely generous for allowing this shit for this long.

>>724077582
>the entire communities
yeah the 0.1% that doesn't even play

>>724077947
This is why I've always thought as trading cards as a discount coupon for the store

>People inflate skin values so high they can only be traded outside of the Steam platform.
>Valve pays them no attention.
>Valve makes a change to their system, rightfully not giving a shit about some third party money laundering websites and their fate.
>Valve continues giving them zero attention.
Good

you item traders sounding a lot like those NFT retards

>>724077989
shitskin insult for whites that doesn't get banned by most websites

>>724077947
the same people your post is directed at also think this image is bad

>>724077998
it's literally one of the 1% coping that their government owned market is in fact government owned

>>724077831
SAR, STEAM BETRAYING US
THEY WILL LOSED 10 MILLION RUPEES SAR

>>724077989
some nig in USA called out White people basically saying "Whats Timmy gonna do" if he went for their girls. Timmy fucking killed him lol.

Now shitdians are spamming it non-stop because they are 80 IQ. They dont even know its not a win, but they are very convinced it is, just like how eating shit is some valid culture and not abominable behavior.

>>724074740 (OP)
there is no such thing as a digital "asset" - it is not real and never has been

>>724075062
>diluted and revoked at any time.
you still own the knife

>>724077831
>This is the decline for steam
Steam could close the market tomorrow and still sit unrivaled on top. (You) would still pay for untradable pages because you define your self through consumerism.

>>724074740 (OP)
>tldr: REEEE I SPENT MY FATHERS LIFE SAVINGS ON THIS SHIT SAVE US REEEE

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam
it's not publicly traded you soulless financial gremlin

>>724078137
buttcorn and cryposcams apply to that as well

The market will recover in less than three months, mark my words.

>>724075558
Dude it’s a fucking videogame.

What valve has done here is given more players the ability to acquire rare stuff while playing so they can enjoy having fun with the game. This isn’t a currency, the value you dudes made up and assigned to these items isn’t real. Y’all played make believe and used it to create a little side gambling game, and now you’re mad that other players get to have your exclusive 1/300 items.

You folks larped your own gambling economy assigning value to nonsense, but the assumption the game would never be updated or changed to let everyone else have fun was entirely on you.

>>724074740 (OP)
If these CS:GO knives were really worth like 2k, why didn't people just sell them before? A couple thousand for a virtual game skin ought to be enough
It's an insane idea to long-term "invest" in something like this and expect the line to go up endlessly, and besides there's gotta be some plan to cash out eventually anyways

>company loses their customers 3.5 billion dollars and counting
>2 days later still no statement or apology

There's no way they don't acknowledge this right? They owe some explanation at the VERY least. Or it's unironically over for this company.

gimme a link so I can clown emoji this nigga

>>724078213
no one cares thirdie. why cant you understand this.

>>724076813
whatever ends up under a dollar

>>724078093
No, I don't think your retarded pol shit has anything to do with this thread

>>724074740 (OP)
VALVE IS TOTALLY THE ONE RUINED BY THIS, NOT ME, THE GUY WHO INVESTED IN PIXELS

WHY WOULD YOU INVEST IN A VIDEO GAME SKIN

Mad because you decided that video game skins were an investment. Get fucked retard. Everyone who uses that dumbass secondary/collector's market excuse for making things objectively worse for everyone can kill themselves. I'm looking at you Hasbro/WotC/Mark Rosewater, fucking make reprints.

the REAL winner after this clusterfuck is... ARTIFACTSCHIZO! Congratulations!

>>724078213
Why would they? They barely even respond to actual rival corporations complaining about Steam's effective stranglehold on PC gaming distribution. Why the everloving fuck would they write an apology letter to the skin market?

>>724078263
kek

>>724078203
You are not understand sir, I buyed the skin for $1000 entire life savings and try to selling for $2000. Now Valve punishing me for my genius business strategy.

>>724075062
Based valve

>>724078213
>company loses their customers 3.5 billion dollars
Never existed. Me saying my PNG is worth 2 billion one day and 1 billion the next doesn't mean I made 1 billion dollars disappear.

>>724078197
Finally someone with some fucking sense in this thread. I could not have said it better myself.

>>724078213
>Do nothing
>Make shitskins seethe
>Win
How does Gaben do it?

>is forced to learn NFTs aren't worth shit
>tries to make it about valve being evil

>>724078213
>loses dollars
decreases the market cap*

>ANON MY SON
>YU MUST CHOOSE
>WILL YOU SPEND $2K ON GOLD, A PHYSICAL ASSET THAT WILL BE STABLE AND GO UP IN PRICE
>OR WILL YOU SPEND $2K ON KNIFE MADE OF PIXELS IN A GAME THAT CAN UPDATE AT ANY TIME
>...

>MY KNIFE NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>724074740 (OP)
>they can destroy the market
you'd have a point if you were whining about steam funbux, but you faggots chose to invest to get real money out of it. you're seriously fucked in the head
>It is confidence that drives people to put real money into the market
what the fuck? you're supposed to sell your shitty skins that you got in a box, not use them as collateral for rent for fuck's sake.
>the confidence to spend $100 on a digital knife
you pay money because you want to use it, not to speculate for fuck's sake

>>724078197
Given more poor people to buy knives at the expense of destroying their reputation for being neutral and ever being trusted again as a safe place to spend money at.

Valve will have to ask is it worth it after they lose millions.

>>724074740 (OP)
lol, lmao

>>724078213
>thinking steambucks mean anything
>thinking your knife you've had rotting in your inventory for 10 years is suddenly going to save your life
Seek help, at least crypto tards can actually make money sometimes.

>>724078601
Oh noooo... they're gonna lose millions...

Buy physical assets kid

>>724078601
>Valve will have to ask is it worth it after they lose millions.
Millions? What happened to the billions saar?

>>724078213
They don't owe you shit, retard. How entitled can you be? Take accountability for your retarded investment.
>Or it's unironically over for this company.
Are Valve employees the ones an-heroing over this? lmao

>>724078601
gaben is worth like 10 billion dollars. he will not care and this will not effect steam at all

This is a great day.
People treating video game cosmetics like the fiscal market deserve to lose everything they invested.

>>724074740 (OP)
Why exactly should I feel bad for people who invested their life saving into video game skins?

>>724078601
Maybe you retards should have stuck with the $1,800 limit on the Steam Marketplace and not purposefully broke ToS selling them for real money on third party websites for extremely inflated prices.

I genuinely hope that there was some kind of executive meeting where all of them laughed at this idea before it was green-lit

>>724077507
ikr this whole situation is hilarious as fuck

>>724078708
>>724078675
>>724078646
Tens of millions each year and that's money Gaben will lose. You retards do realize a business doesn't get all the money it generates in revenue only net profit which the marketplace is at least 30%-40% of their entire company

I wanted to sue valve but now I have no money to do so! FUCK

>>724078601
Mmm just imagine how much money you could be making right now... imagine the millions you are losing out on because a lowly Valve programmer changed a few lines of code and destroyed everyone's livelihood... you could've been a millionaire by now, a trillionaire, even... so sad

Bros. I don't know if I'm getting baited but I'm starting to think OP is actually taking this seriously.

We just HAD a "laugh at retards" thread, but alright one more time:
>skin """investors"""

You could invest in electric or water or an IRA
Why was all your money in Counter Strike skins?

>>724078856
>Tens of millions each year
Gabe wipes his ass with that money, retard.

Reminds me of that TF2 mspaint comic where the f2p picks up a golden pan and the whale gets upset.

>>724078856
>the marketplace is at least 30%-40% of their entire company
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>724078908
Cope he still is losing money

>>724074740 (OP)
>If they can just destroy a market that they themselves built they made themselves volatile.

brown people should read the terms and conditions.

>>724074740 (OP)
But the skin economy wasn't created by valve, it was created by dipshits who are intsrested in scamming easily influenced children and retards in commie blocks.

>>724078953
Not as much as you did haha

>>724078904
Indians don't have those things

>>724074740 (OP)
>trust
>Gabe
lol
lmao even

Anyone noticing how manufactured threads like these are? Steam just shifted some money around via the knife skins but these threads are acting like steam is on death row about to collapse any second now. What's up with that?

>>724078856
>marketplace is at least 30%-40% of their entire company
>money Gaben will lose
Prove it. Prove both that the marketplace makes up that much of valve's annual revenue and then prove (or even make a coherent argument as to why) this will have that impact valve's revenue.

If anything, I contend that the abundance of knives will encourage more trading, and valve will have a greater number of transactions to tax. Instead of people simply holding onto expensive skins forever in the idiotic hope they will increase in value, those skins will now be traded more freely and valve will actually earn more money now.

>>724078197
/thread

>>724077267
Except gold is real.

These are only slightly less dumb than NFTs because at least they exist in game, but they’re still really really really dumb.

>>724079085
? It's literally one guy and everyone else laughing at him

>>724079085
Its the same reason we got so many threads about people presumably killing themselves

Cryptocucks are panicking and trying to fight shadows to get valve to revert the patch but they wont and they never talk so tbeyre just punching everywhere else

>>724075062
>Gabe over 10 years ago: YOU OWN NOTHING
>retards in 2025: say what now?????
Man, some people are slow but this slow?

>>724079085
Shills for hire dude, literal epic shills. Guarantee this is phase one and in a few days or weeks you're going to see "I'm switching to epic games and never coming back" threads.

Mark my words.

>>724078993
Exactly this. Valve did create a cash in but no cash out economy on their platform. They never intended for these skins to get as expensive as they did or have them sold outside of their platform for real money. These fuckers should be thankful that Valve turned a blind eye for so long and didn't ban everyone doing RMT on external platforms.

>>724078856
Watching Gaben create a nuclear meltdown in the third world is the cleanest, best pleasure

>>724079085
Its either ree out here or be an hero and op isnt a heroic guy

>>724078953
Lmao the only one coping is you, thirdie.
Make another "THIS WILL BE THE END OF VALVE!!!!" post while you watch you money disappear.

>>724079189
It doesnt even make sense

Because they didnt take away anyones skins

>>724079085
Sometimes the jannies throw us a bone and give us a cause to rally around. In this case it's a take so ridiculous that anybody who reads this thread has no choice but to point and laugh

>>724079110
It has to be at least 20% if not more just statistically by their earnings and the size of steam trading.

>>724074740 (OP)
>>724075062
>>724075383
>>724076030
>>724076158
>>724078601
The only thing to blame for this non-existent "disaster" are the people partaking in this bubble, because they alone created it.
There are limits set by valve that make it impossible to exceed low 4 digit sums in total. Anything above those limits is driven by brain dead man-children, literal children and hand rubbers. That whole bubble exists outside of the steam market. Steam's only function in all of this is as a trading app.

tl:dr nothing of value was lost and the same goes for the skins

>>724079289
except this whole thing is happening because it wasnt steam trading being utilized.

Valve has no reason or obligation to care about what retards "invest" vast sums of money into via third-party sites, many of which have dubious origins at best.

If you chose to "invest" a shit load of cash into virtual items you are an apex retard.

>>724079289
Dude they get 30% of every copy of every game sold you really think some random kids wasting their alloweance on skinboxes even reaches the toes of that?

>>724075062
Always was. You purchase licenses that may be revoked at any time.

>>724078856
And you do realize the Steam marketplace is filled with scams and money laundering? A virtual item market like this worth billions is certain to attract a lot of attention from regulators and law enforcement in every part of the globe.
My bet is that Valve got a tip from someone that there's an on-going investigation and knowing they were absolutely fucked if it went forward just decided to nuke the market instead.

>>724078601
It’s almost like it’s a game and “poor people”, as you put it, should be allowed to have fun too. You want to play the stock market buy stocks. You want to buy crypto buy crypto.

This is videogame skins that had zero hope of maintaining their value long term because 10 years from now the game will be replaced and eventually the servers won’t even exist.

>>724079367
But they still manipulated the prices by essentially printing more knives.

>>724079308
best post itt

>>724074740 (OP)
tl;dr
the only people affected by this were breaking TOS by selling items for cash. literally black market trading valve was turning a blind eye to, you don't now get to larp as a chatgpt lawyer when your hand was caught so far in to the cookie jar that when it was shattered it lacerated your nipples.

no crying in the casino, please.

>>724074740 (OP)
That should not be a market in first place.
It's a fucking video game.

>>724079308
You stop it right now with those inconvenient facts! We need to pretend this is VALVE's bad decision, and VALVE is the one who is ruined by this, not us!

It was cool to be able to make some money for just playing a game but you niggers took it eay too far and have ruined it for everyone else. You have no one but yourselves to blame.

>>724074740 (OP)

>rare in game tradable item
>real value: in all honesty, probably a bunch of standard items, lower tier rare + sweets or something. Maybe 20 bucks absolute max.
>scammers who see a lucrative opportunity step in
>ERMMMMMM ACKSHULLY, THATS WORTH 1000 DOLLARS! IN USD BTW!!!
>EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME IS WORTH REAL MONEY!!!!!
>sells his "rare" to a child for $700 paypal
>game economy proceeds to inflate
>people now believe the value
>even pointless little shit no one wants is "worth" real money
>people who don't even play the game buy in to "invest"
>all in game items btw

only thing that'll come out of this is maybe a hit to key sales, but valve will be fine
retard investors, not so much. shoulda bought gold or property instead. genuinely idiotic

>>724075261
Holy based trvke

>>724079308
The market was literally propped up by chinks trying to turn the skins into altcoins.

>>724075062
>Valve adds a secondary way to roll some cosmetics
>Somehow this means they're gonna start pulling game licenses any day now
seethe more lmao

>>724079406
If they didn't make a lot a lot of money why would they spend so much time on it, hire people to create skins, models, hats, stickers in all their games. cs2, dota 2, TF2 and whatever else games they have that they rake marketplace tax from if they don't produce the sellable items. The CS market is in the billions and WoW sells in game mounts and made tens of millions on a singular fucking mount. You clearly don't understand how profitable it is.

>>724075706
>suicide deaths
As opposed to living lives?

>>724079690
>green knife
>red knife
>purple knife
They probably have some kid making recolors.

How did we get so fucking far from putting a plastic circle into a device and doing a game.

>>724079690
they changed it because people were buying from third party sites not the marketplace you faggot

>>724075261
basado y rojopastillado

>>724079690
And you don't seem to understand they were making no profit at all off the people trading on these grey market sites.

>>724079783
It went to shit the second women and greedy men got involved.

>>724079289
>trust me bro

>>724079809
And that momentary greed is going ri cost them dearly. They fucked up, as the image explains. The ruined all their goodwill, all their trust as a company and caused IRL deaths on top of it for no reason.

>>724075062
>oh no, Steam is gonna make a game in your library cheaper so more people buy it
Shit, that has never happened before. My investments...

>>724079440
okay and? Now they are gonna get knife money from, their own market, which they were not before.

Holy FUCK you are a dumb mother fucker, no wonder you invested in this shit.

>>724079891
Your seethe won'r give you your retirement funds back rajeesh.

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam
IT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY DIPSHIT.

>>724079891
>t.

Modern day 'investors' who treat hobby and video game items as investments and throw terms like "bullish" in their every day speech should be beaten every day of their lives

>>724079891
i bet you 90% of Steam users even know whats going on, they print millions a day from chronic game sales. Every single one, big, small, or even 10 copies sold, they get 30% all day, all night.

Valve under cut third party sites but in the process destroyed their reputation and people who traded the most on steam

>>724079891
>it's greedy to want people to use your own marketplace for trading instead of a third party website
please be trolling

>>724075062
>>724075383
>>724076030
>>724076354

Are these people retarded???? It literally says in the ToS that your account and anything in it can be revoked at any point for whatever reason Steam/Valve decides upon.

FUCKING READ, PEOPLE. WE KNEW THIS YEARS AGO.

reminder that steam is a private company, they do not release their earnings so this anon is literally just making up numbers.

>>724077565
Thanks for moving the goalpost.

>>724075278
Ai is for retards and trannies

>>724079308
good morning sir gaben are bleating money from bank account they will revert

Do you even realize that a majority of people are happy with this update?

>>724079857
Retards and third worlders thought they had a secret path to infinite wealth
Like NFT investors, however, they failed to realize that you only ever actually make money on shit like this by leaving someone else with the bag

>>724077989
>>724077645
"little timmy" was always a generic term for little boy until /pol/tards and jeets co-opted it

>>724080123
I literally agreed with you tho? That's not moving goalposts.

>>724080153
its a literal indian retard, of course they dont, they only think arrogantly with unwarranted confidence in their own shit beliefs.

>>724076598
>If Valve cared about the people who were unhealthily invested, they would not have fucked them in such a way.
If Valve cared about the people, they wouldn't have cancelled Artifact 2.0, that schizo was warning you for years

>>724080153
Of course not
They don't actually play the game, they've been treating it like a stock market

>>724077596
No, Valve keeps all of it a secret.

>>724074740 (OP)
>people crying because babby's pretend stock-market went tits up
Invest in the real stock market you retards. Why are you investing in a fucking video game cosmetics "marketplace"?

>Whole parallel market exists to point that valve needs triple down whatever account security because retards keep get scammed or hacked.
>Valve don't see any of this money either way because is all hosted on third party sites

Ah yes,it's valve fault.

You are all poor

>>724080153

How???? The market cap lost 3 billion in a day
Knives can be bought for like 100 bucks now

>>724074740 (OP)
sorry. new yachts for his billionaire friends wont pay themselves.
>>724075032
come on, they get 10% from every market sale.

Changs are truly retarded. What breach of trust? What you were doing was always a violation of ToS and not endorsed by Valve. They just let you be before because they were too lazy to do anything about it.

>>724080398
NO ONE FUCKING LIKES CRYPTOTARDS

>>724080389
But I'm not the one who invested thousands into fake knives

>>724075261
>people who matter.

yachts?

>>724080389
I hope this is one of you trolling. There's no way people are this delusional, right?

>>724074740 (OP)
I've spent more time shitposting on the CS2 forums than I have working today.

>>724080389
>working to that magical moment they could buy an overpriced skin because scalpers
yeah such fond memories.

>>724080398
because the majority of us arent retarded third worlders banking on literal skins in a video game, with a speculative market thats even worse and dumber than NFT.

You FUCKING idiot.

>>724079690
>why would they spend so much time on it
>meanwhile, average Valve programmer
>"Man, feeling pretty seasonal. Luv me some Christmas. Maybe I'll share the Christmas spirit with our playerbase. Make some cool limited-release cosmetics for em. Merry Christmas, Steam! :)"

>>724080460
It's not my people who killed themselves, so why would I care?

>>724080389
Ah yes, my happiest moment in video games is when I save up thousands of dollars to buy a cosmetic.

>>724080398
>Knives can be bought for like 100 bucks now

You just answered your question.
Explain to me why it made sense for a knife to cose 6k dollars?

>>724080389
>You are all poor
Nah, the people who invested all their money in knife colors are poor.

>>724080523
These 'people' don't actually understand why people play video games
Everything is about money to them

>>724080398
That money never existed.

>>724080580
what makes sense for it to be 100? lmao retards paying for skins like it's a 401k

How are people still talking about this? Retards investing in NFTs fucked around and found out. Laugh at them and move on there is no other discussion to be had since they literally did this to themselves.

>>724080515
gaming becoming more mainstream leads to people that are barely middle class with narcissist complex

>>724080698
the cope and seethe will last for another week or so, and we're here to milk it

>>724080389
>That magical moment when you could finally spend thousands of dollars on a knife cosmetic
do CSCucks really?

>implying people were not forming mafias, going bankrupt and committing actual murder/suicide specifically due to the in-game economy in every single valve multiplayer game before this happened
You're not mad that valve is exploiting and killing people, you're mad that you can't ignore it any longer.

>>724080389
Yeah man, no kidding. I was selling these digital knives, right? And then suddenly the market went belly-up and my entire stick depreciated in value. I put my retirement fund in those knives... FUCK

>>724080698
It's funny to watch them squirm

>>724074740 (OP)
These fucking paracites are getting what they deserve instead of being normal and making an engaging ecosystem they went hard and tried to maximize profit for their illgotten greed, these motherfuckers never gave a fuck about the game at all only the money and acess to the USD that it provided.

A lesser evil is still evil. Valve were already aiding and abetting the shady gambling economy and still are.

reminder that these people are only bringing up suicides because they actually want people to off themselves so they look like they have the moral high ground

I did not realize there were so many passionate thirdies on /v/

>>724080460
>Defending people who kill themselves over a fucking video game
You should join them. Me on the other hand? I'm gonna enjoy this cool Emerald Butterfly Knife I just crafted. Suck my fat dick.

The only thing poisoning my joy is knowledge that many posters on this site love to roleplay as retards for attention.

>>724080389
>calling people who didn't invest in digital pixels "poor"

oh my god... It's nft's all over again

>>724080389
SARRRR ONLY THE DALITS ARE CELEBRATE THIS BETRAYAL

>>724074740 (OP)
Call me crazy. But I don't actually think videogames being tied to a volatile speculation market, is good for the videogames.
In the long run this is surely for the best.

REMEMBER TO PLAY THE NEXT GENERATION MULTIPLAYER SKINNERBOX SIMULATOR FROM VALVE, DEADLOCK! THE FIRST GAME BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP TO SELL COSMETICS!

>>724074740 (OP)
get fucked losers

>all these people believing the 6b market cap
my god crypto really destroyed the average person knowlegde of economics.

>>724080987
Mina skins are goonna make me rich!

>>724080910
>so many
It's just one guy, kek. Unless you're suggesting that every other poster arguing against this guy is a thirdie, which in that case third-worlders are more based than I thought. But I highly doubt that's the reality

>>724080460
>it's valve's fault I made disastrous financial decisions!
I'm glad stupid people are dying. I look forward to more stupid people offing themselves.

>>724075062
nta but I also didn't read your further response either, very strange that you would be told "hey I'm not gonna read your post, and you still bother to respond! Many such cases!

It's really fucking funny making obvious bait posts and then having people respond to them seriously.

>>724080987
say less. I'm going into negative equity to invest!

>>724080954
you're just poor

>>724080389
I don't see my steam inventory as an investment, I buy items to use them.

>>724074740 (OP)
>This is a bearish sign
>because my digital knife collection got fucked
Ohnonono Bobobobo...
You've started losing it...

>>724080979
WHOA slow down there anon, talk like that will get you a three-day ban at minimum

>>724080948
Just know even if people here are pretending, people really did invest ridiculous sums of money in digital knives, really did lose ridiculous sums of money over the past couple days due to the update, and are very upset about it. Also, most of them are brown.

>>724074740 (OP)
Buzz words, buzz words, buzz words. It’s actually your own greed who fucked you over in the first place.

>>724081231
and some of them are actually an-heroing over it.

>>724081018
The "market cap" was just a combination of all the item listed on buff163.

>>724081231
and even better news, some killed themselves!

>>724074740 (OP)
that schizo """investor""" is right about just one thing
your "collection" of games and items are just digits that can be made useless with one rule change. You don't, and have never, own/owned a damn thing on steam. (Thats bad)

>you don't own it!
I don't care. If my steam libary disappeared overnight, I would just pirate everything. My money mostly went to the devs, that's all I really care about.

Everything that guy said is irrelevant because its not and asset its not a stock market its not an investment, its just pixels that make your gun look good. Valve could shut down the entire marketplace tomorrow and everyone can still use the skins they currently have in-game and they would be in the right.

That's it im not gonna use steam anymore. Physical only. Fuck you steam Fuck you gaben i hate you piece of shit i encourage everyne do the same. im expecteing a child and nnow i cant affford a house anymore fck what am i gonna do.

>>724079583
>real value: in all honesty, probably a bunch of standard items, lower tier rare + sweets or something. Maybe 20 bucks absolute max.
Why not so smart anons always post this? Real value = value people willing to pay. People were buying and selling knives at insanely high price = it was real price.

>>724074973
this is like christmas come early the faggot npcs who destroyed gaming lost 2 billion dollars

>>724081591
did you not read the rest of the post? the "real value" was artificially inflated

>>724081370
I don't think anyone here believes otherwise. But given Valve's track record I don't expect they will turn evil overnight and revoke all my loicenses.

>>724080508
Sorry your Adderall ran out in the middle of my post. Pop another one and come back in 30 to finish reading it you stupid faggot

>>724074740 (OP)
Too many language mistakes, opinion dismissed

>>724076476
>who will buy a car for $45,000 when the next day it'll be worth $20,000
People who will use them rather than "invest"?
>He destroyed free trade
When? You are still free to trade your skins for $2.

>This isn't X, it's Y found at least 3 times throughout the post
ChatGPT sucks at writing

>>724075062
Nothing was revoked. The only thing that happened is that rare things became LESS rare. This is good for everyone who isn't treating those things like they're a currency.

videogames?

>>724081894
That's a really sharp observation!
Do you want me to break down why this happens?

>>724074740 (OP)
>invest in steam
valve is a private company

>>724082019
kek

>>724075062
>They shattered investment with this.
and that's a GOOD thing.
inshallah all vidya item "investors" will be put to the sword

>>724077831
the giant ass inflated market was barely making any money for steam because people were just trading shit between each other instead of buying boxes

>>724081640
real value is real value, if it wasn't real value people wouldn't pay as much as they did

>>724082019
Yes, and export it out to a .pdf so I can read it later please. Thanks GPT!

>>724082157
I've yet to see a single proof of transaction in over 20 thread.

>>724082157
That's a tautology

>Steam is fucking finished because of an update that hurts a small group of grifters, scammers, and idiots
o i'm laffin

>>724075062
valve didn't take anything away, it added more of something which diluted the fake value of that something

How does Valve lose money from this when most high-tier skin transactions were facilitated on third party sites where Valve doesn't take a cut?
Steam Marketplace maxes out at $1,800 and you can't withdrawal, nobody is selling on there when their skins can go for $18,000 cash somewhere else.

>>724075383
>digital mesh that is stored on a company's servers
>"organic market"
yeah nah

>>724082157
>person a owns a piece of shit
>person a creates dummy accounts he owns
>person a "sells" dummy account #1 piece of shit for 1000 dollars
>trades it back to himself
>person a "sells" dummy account #2 piece of shit for 1000 dollars
>repeat repeat repeat
>person a: bro, I've sold piece of shit so many times, and it ALWAYS sells for 1000!!!!
>person b (You): Wow, that's real value. I will purchase this piece of shit.

>>724082421
almost like the people implying steam is losing money by doing this are lying to save their own ass

>>724082281
https://www.pcgamer.com/counter-strike-skin-sells-for-dollar400k-probably-the-most-expensive-gun-in-videogame-history/
google is your friend, people were buying/selling CS skins for insane amount of money, just because you don't know about doesn't mean it isn't real

>>724074740 (OP)
should have given Gaben his fair shre then and not used third party trade sites, little chinky
>the market they created
the parallel fucking third party sites you chankoros and ivans created, fucking morons
>ultimately backfire
dumb ching chong, Valve was left holding all the liability of this supposedly billion dollar market while raking in none of the profits, it was in their best interest to gut it

>>724082157
THIS IS NOT AN OPEN MARKET, IT'S A MARKET OWNED BY VALVE A PRIVATE ENTITY, NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR ITEMS VALVE CAN COME IN AND EVERYTHING PURCHASABLE FOR 2 DOLLARS AND IT WOULD BE 2 DOLLARS NO QUESTIONS ASKED. YOU FAGGOTS GET NO SAY IN THIS VALVE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE FINAL WORD ON HOW THE MARKET TRENDS.

>>724082421
They don't. This is an astronomical cope by retards trying to pass the buck onto Valve for their shitty decisions.

It seems to me that from the beginning this whole grey market was a legally dubious way for people to launder money and valve should have popped the bubble sooner.

>>724082498
lol ok

US government told valve to stop fucking around

>>724082693
this. the goal was to fuck with russia/china

>>724074740 (OP)
Just stop coming to TF2 and spamming chat about the new players kids
You used to not even be able to check that you dumb newfags

>>724082157
fair value has an actual definition
>fair value is the price that would be received to sell an asset or paid to transfer a liability in an orderly transaction between market participants at the measurement date.
the fair value of your knife yesterday is not the same fair value as it is now

>>724082626
Then no market is real, since governments control all market by violence.
Remember that shitty video game store that went under but reddit had great plan to pump it up anyway? US government told them - no, you can't buy stocks because FUCK YOU.
and yet, people still pretend that stock market is "free market"
either we accept that skin market is free market or there is virtually no free market in existence whatsoever

>>724082157
the average cryptard, ladies and gents.

>>724074740 (OP)
buying videogame skins as an investment is fucking retarded
and now people that actually play the game can get knife skins cheap
nothing of value was lost lol

>>724082464
pokemon cards lmao

>>724075062
if you invest in knife skins you should put a real knife to your wrists

>>724082819
>Then no market is real, since governments control all market by violence.
notice how the only way your world view works is by being schizophrenic

>>724082767
Then by your definition no price is fair, how silly

>>724074740 (OP)
CS GO players live very sad lives if this is the reason they get up in the morning.

>>724082918
What do you think people obsessed with the stock market do all day?

>>724083001
Yeah and those people are also sad.

>>724079085
It gives this kinda feel. Thats why.

>>724082918
i know right?
Now give me a moment, gotta check my (You) balance

>>724082918
Try to enter any TF2 thread in the past 10 years, it was literally all about pumping items value. That's what Gabe games are all about.

Get fucked lmao.

>>724074740 (OP)
I don't know how someone can write all that shit and not think once that he might be a fucking retard for buying unicorn puke knives like they were a real commodity.

>>724074740 (OP)
Steam is a store for video games, not a bank for speculators and gamblers.

>>724083001
Stock traders are less sad because they're dealing with an actual market. Speculating on CSGO skins is the figurative ball pit for children compared to that.

>>724083078
Thanks, I was looking for this one.

>>724082883
no, fair value can be accurately measured either by referring to spot prices at the time of the transaction for things that are openly traded; with reference to the price of virtually similar assets at the time of the transaction; or where neither of these are possible, by performing a valuation exercise to calculate the present value of future cashflows expected to be derived from the asset, at the time of the transaction
the fair value of your knife decreased between yesterday and now because the market was diluted which changed its fair value
if I buy an ounce of gold now at today's prices and a meteor safely lands on earth the size of china that is made of solid gold, the value of my ounce of gold will decrease

>>724082157
>>724082157
Wait until I tell you about this snake oil I've got for you! Don't mind the price, everybody always pays the exact same for it. 6000 dollars, please- it's real value!

>>724075502
lmao

>>724083307
>Schmidlap
Every time

>>724074740 (OP)
>wall of text just to say w-we'll sue you!! this is !not a threat
Love to see it

>>724082157
you're right, I don't know why everyone is getting mad at you kek
the value of something is the price someone else is willing to pay for it, simple as

>>724077186
For the last time, I don't want to see your ass Gutsman!

>>724083307
>not interested
Now what you are gonna do?

>>724074740 (OP)
>Who will invest in steam
it's a storefront for games

that might be a shock for some people but I don't think Valve were happy with skines being used as pseudo-currency in some shady transactions

>>724075062
>steam
>investment
lol. lmao even

BUT MY GI JOES FROM 20 YEARS AGO WERE AN INVESTMENT, WHY ARENT THEY HOLDING VALUE?!

>>724079308
this, unless you made a personal trade of real money, steam in no way intends the money being used to be taken out of its casino

>>724079085
Ziggers being ziggers. Their economy is so shit they start thinking digital skins in a video game are a good investment.

Video game skins were never investments. I do not care if retards got fucked by Valve.

>>724083231
>spot price
I remember how spot jews pumped gas prices in Europe into sky high some years ago, Europe STILL can't recover from their action, they are literally paying more for gas than anyone in the world because of the spot jews
So no, I won't read any further, spot prices have nothing to do with being fair

>>724082308
You and you're mom are a tautology

>>724083559
N-n-no... this can't be! My entire racket... it's going up in smoke!! This can only be the work of those dirty snakes... THEY produced the oil I stol- er, sold!

Don't care still playing deadlock

>>724074740 (OP)
>invest in steam
valve couldn't really care less what you do with your knife skins on russian trading websites

>>724075062
You were investing money with Valve by paying some russian $8000 through paypal?

>>724083932
>Deadlock release
>Gabe add mandatory lootboxes and market support
>from that moment onward the only thing people will ever talk about are skin prices
Call it now.

My theory on why is because they saw bozos making tribute videos to mcskillet and his inventory worth/value.

>>724075706
What he did doesn't harm consumers at all though, he gave them free/cheaper shit. The people gambling/"investing" in skins are not consumers.

>>724080074
your government can revoke your right to stay alive by sending you to die for israel, if they really wanted to

>>724084068
deadlock will just have a cosmetic system similar to dota

>>724076190
does anyone havr the pasta

Nothing makes me happier than market/crypto fags seething. We’re just one mass internet outage away from it all being washed clean, where people with digital assets suddenly realize how worthless their investment was.

>>724084071
I like that McSkillet used to make April Fools videos about being able to trade up to knives and now it's a reality lmao

>>724080074
>FUCKING READ, PEOPLE
You think someone who truly believed they would live a good life in the future by flipping game cosmetics can read?

>>724084253
check inside your anus

>>724081970
CS is a video game.

>>724084201
Wait, you are telling me that cs2, dota2 and tf2 have different skin systems? From the look of it they are the same to me (you get random drop, you can sell it on market or irl in case price is way up there) but I don't play said games so maybe I'm missing some details?

>>724074740 (OP)
Nice try im siding with valve against scummy lazy greedy csgo skin traders lmfao cant wait for asmongold to destroy you retards

>>724084347
cs and tf2 have pretty similar systems but tf2 doesn't have the trade up mechanic, dota 2 cosmetics come as a full set of items for characters instead of individually like cs and tf2, also dota has a weird pity system.

>>724080074
What was revoked exactly? Can you name it?

>>724080413
>come on, they get 10% from every market sale.
People weren't using the market to trade skins in bulk or buy/sell those knives and gloves worth several thousand dollars
Valve sees 0% of anything that is directly traded from inventory to inventory

>>724084489
>>724084347
dota also has a battle pass whenever the international happens where you get exclusive comsetics for completing it and these do not come back. how dota handles it's cosmetics is unironically vastly different from csgo.

>>724074740 (OP)
>its own community
You mean shitty skin hoarders trading them against ToS off site to bypass valves fees and safer environment for pure profit? That community that clearly doesnt care about valve or plays the game? The community that hates a change that objectively makes skins easier to obtain for average consumers and real players of the game? Who do you think you lazy stupid fucks are trying to convince? Geeeeet fucked :)))

>>724084489
>tf2 doesn't have the trade up mechanic

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Trade-Up

Uh..... It's almost worthless tho.

>>724077251
No one uses it as a currency anymore it's not 2013. It's a speculative store of value now, companies and governments are buying it.

Valve knows that their CS Skin Market is huge. A lot of Developing Nations tied their GDP to said market. If I was Gabe Newell I be more careful traveling on his boat. You never know what pissed off Pirate or Cartel Member might look for him.

>>724084701
oh wtf i was still playing tf2 in 2015 how did i completely miss this. then yeah i guess cs and tf2 basically have the same thing, dota is the odd one out.

>>724083879
...now look what you all did... how will I ever make a living now? That snake oil was all I had! Sure I built my wagon out of crummy wood and parked it next to the campfire, but who would be so cruel, heartless, and anti-consumer as to burn down my overpriced snake oil sca- I mean, sales?! Now everybody will lose their faith in the bottles I stored the snake oil in!!

>>724084338
if you did not get drops, would you play it? Same is / was true about Deadlock btw... or CS 1.6

not an ounce of sympathy for any of these retards

I've actually eaten a chinese child.

>>724084881
i play deadlock even though theres no cosmetics, and i played cs for like 1k+ hours despite having a basically vanilla inventory, i never used the garbage dirt covered skins you get as drops

>>724074740 (OP)
So is anyone going to explain what the fuck this is or do I have to start googling

>>724084973
A shanghai baby, perchance?

>>724084881
I don't play CS. But it is a video game.

>>724074740 (OP)
Steam is not a publicly traded company, you can't invest in it.

>>724075695
In what game??

>>724080460
cool anal-ogy Suckdeep but I literally lost nothing lmao
I even sold a red that was worth nothing last week for 60 buckaroonies, a free game and watching brownjeets and chinkoids seethe to death so yeah from my perspective it's all win/win/win all around

>>724085076
well good for you but Deadlock still has a lot less active players because of the missing weekly drop salary. Once salary is introduced into the game, you too can enjoy 10x bigger player base.
At least I am honest, I could argue about game mechanics and shit but no need to lie - pay me to play and I will, otherwise fuck off.

>>724085172
A game with an attached payment to play it weekly.

>>724075278
the Luddites were right

>>724080460
>>4chan mfs when valve makes people kill themselves
This is correct, yes.

>>724074740 (OP)
>gambling isnt safe so not gambling also isnt safe
utter delusion

>>724075383
>Valve is successful because they promised to be a safe haven for people to use their marketplace which they built.
Valve is successful because they sell video games, faggot.

>>724085407
Deadlock has a lot less active players because you can't even join the playtest right now

>>724074740 (OP)
>buttmad thirdie has chatgpt write a scathing takedown that no one will read
sad! many such cases!

>>724075062
>now
this has ALWAYS been the case.
retard

>>724085658
and also because the salary is as big as a janni's salary. once they implement proper salary it will get players.

>>724085505
I'm pretty sure the game doesn't have a sub tho? You are a fool if you buy cosmetics. If you are playing a weekling sub to play a competitive FPS, then you are just stupid.

>>724076974
proofs? :)

>>724075062
If Valve made the games on my account less valuable, and by extension less expensive, I would be clapping and cheering.

>>724085718
what the hell are you talking about, you can't even download it right now unless you already got an invite

>>724076974
>40%
Delusional brownoid

>>724074740 (OP)
>trusting one of the greediest companies in the market
>because... they made a good store okay?? (where you don't own anything you spend money on)

>>724085740
>playing a weekling sub
*Paying a weekly sub
How the fuck did I type that?

>>724085142
Some retard that spent WAY too much money (and got into far too much debt) just to buy skins for counterstrike.
The things he bought were relatively hard to obtain, with no kind of tradeup system to obtain one. You had to lootbox into one or buy one for absurd prices.
Based gaben just fucked those faggot up by implementing a tradeup system (5 x "reds" can convert into one of these previously elusive and/or expensive items - "reds" being still somewhat rare themselves, but certainly more attainable that the knives/gloves these spergs are crying about).
I don't understand the logic or mechanisms of it all since you can't cash out your Steam wallet. Guess they'd sell the accounts or something to reconvert their cs skins gains into fiat.

>>724085849
there was a grey market for trading skins for real money

>>724085849
Or to put it in simpler terms, they added TF2 crafting to Counter Strike
>Take 5 low-value items
>Combine them
>You now have 1 medium-to-high value item

>noooo my investments valve this is illegal!
skins for a video game are not investments, not valves fault that third world monkeys treat them like that.

>>724074740 (OP)
I have literally never heard the term bearish before right now

>>724085939
That system was in the game for a long time, but previously you couldn't craft the highest rarity items (knives). Now you can.

>>724085927
Right, so the skin was put into escrow or something and the money was just traded via paypal, outside of Steam?

>>724074740 (OP)
>asset
>investment
>market
Nigger, you paid money for a video game knife skin.
Don't embellish things by pretending you're pic related.

>>724076354
>Now no one will buy anything on the marketplace
the vast majority of purchases on the marketplace are done so people can use those items in game. Only children too immature to invest in actual things pretended Valve skins were a stock market. The world will not miss these people as they kill themselves.

>>724074740 (OP)
Just need WotC to reprint the reserved list.
Fucking cardboard investors need the rope more than these guys I think.

>>724086095
something like that, I don't really know the details since I'm not a Chinaman

>invest
That implies that there will be an expected return of investment. There is no way to legitimately convert steam items, or steam store credit, into spendable money that you can use outside of steam. The community market was never designed with this in mind. It is explicitly stated in the terms of service that doing so can result in a ban. By arguing that Valve should not have done this, you are admitting that you have been breaking Valve's own rules.

>>724086013
it's from the bear/bull THE BEAR AND THE BULL market trends, bearish/bullish means you're leaning towards bailing out or buying based on what you perceive market conditions to be

>>724085808
How a valve game gets players in 2025:
step 1. make it has economy
step 2. maybe make it installable and playable.
There are a shit ton of cs skin traders who do not play cs2 and some, especially the big players that just deal with investments, never ever even launches cs2 yet had millions in knifes.

Being able to play Deadlock is optional. Just make the skin economy work.
It's like the Silent hill meme - i am sure investors are very excited to play cs2 some day when it is released. believe me.

>>724085740
Cs 2 has weekly drops, aka your weekly salary. lots of players play only to get the money and they never touch cs 2 for the next 6 days.

>>724086381
kek, the mental gymnastics they'll employ to argue against this single indisputable truth would be something special to witness I think.

>>724086381
>There is no way to legitimately convert steam items
What do you mean by this?
Then why Valve never took any actions against such trades
https://www.pcgamer.com/counter-strike-skin-sells-for-dollar400k-probably-the-most-expensive-gun-in-videogame-history/
All things considering such trades were recognized as legitimate by literally everyone, except you, that is.

>>724086562
>lots of players play only to get the money
lol, glad they are getting fucked

>>724086686
Can you show me where on steam I can cash out my store credit into my bank account?

i just gotta say im so happy this happened and all you steamcharts-posting pol/biz-obsessed crypto-brainrotted retards are killing yourselves in droves.

>>724086761
listen, the problem is that we are not getting fucked - case prices are somewhat stable. competitive fags are fucked - your tournaments are sponsored only by skin websites. Also any new future Valve game is fucked - either it has to be good on its own or the pay has to be good to play it. Even Valve knows that.

This basically happened because single people were buying entire pages of 1 out of rotation item to "inflate" the market by reducing the stock. CS2 was prey to obvious low effort market manipulation.

>>724086821
You are pretending or for real? I can't tell anymore

>>724075062
>This applies to your steam library as well
That's the only part of the post that's sane and true.
All the other is schizo butthurt cope for investing on digital pixels. At least with the games from my steam library I can download the game files on a hard drive and play them offline in case Steam decides to nuke them.

>>724086686
>Then why Valve never took any actions against such trades
They just did. That's why you're crying lmao

>>724086926
>we are not getting fucked
shame
>your tournaments
Not mine, I don't watch or play CS. I haven't played a PvP competitive game since 2018. I'm just here to shit on people while they are down.

>>724086686
Valve actually hit few couple of skin sites before.

>>724086686
>except you
I recognize those trades as illegitimate, so that makes two anons

>>724074740 (OP)
How many crypto crashes have been caused by market makers undermining it? And people still invest in it and it still gains new highs each year. You speculative gambling addicts will buy no matter what.

>>724074740 (OP)
Valve once again proving they are the best shitty option in a world full of shitty options.
These "investors" are so fucking retarded and they deserve everything they got.

>valve makes cosmetics and trading system to tap into the wallets of people who can't resist playing dress-up
>faggots realize they can "earn" money from trading, set up economy around the cosmetics
>keep driving the prices up and bypassing the steam market so they don't have to pay valves cut, shit starts being so expensive at the high end that you literally can't buy it from the steam market because it goes for more than the hard cap
>valve finally gets around to kneecapping this shit so more people can afford to play dress-up again
>massive collective ass pain

>>724087187
hmm... understandable. I will not defend the multi-billion company for free, so do what you want. I do not like your posts but ... Valve just does not pay me enough to defend them more. shame.

>>724087509
this lmao if anything valve let this shit go on for way too long

I don't think Valve ever intended for top tier cosmetics of their game to be literally unavailable for an average consumer.

>>724075062
You shoul've invested in real things not internet pixels.

>>724087509
>faggots realize they can "earn" money
wrong, play2earn is literally the foundation of tf2 (since market update) and csgo/2 from the start
I repeat, IT WAS BY DESIGN

It was a good thread, gave me a laugh today

>>724075062
>Valve has now chosen to say that everything and anything on your steam account is fair game to be diluted and revoked at any time
>now

>>724074740 (OP)
I read the first word and I knew it was Gemini slop
Thanks /aicg/

>>724074740 (OP)
>Giant wall of text pretending to be based on principles
>For a gambling market crash
lol, lmao

>>724074740 (OP)
My fucking sides look at how desperate they are
They know they are royally fucked and they need public support
The same public they would have dumped their artificially overpriced bags on
GET FUCKED RETARDS

Hero shooter now.
I WILL NOW PLAY CS2

>>724074740 (OP)
Its like, just a video game man

>>724074740 (OP)
>highly inflated speculative item skin market backed by nothing
>traded on a third party site that gives Valve nothing
>people run bots to shit up the game to farm items for this
>depends entirely on a lack of QoL updates for regular players
It was only a matter of time before based Gabe sat on their market and crushed it into a singularity. This was worth the weight.