Thread 724094251

Anyone noticed there are never remakes of good games? Its always garbage slop barely 5 years old.

>>724094251 (OP)
The new character designs are the only good thing about the rebuild doealebtighoutever

>>724094251 (OP)
I guess the intent is to sell you the same game again while ip is still recognizable

>>724094251 (OP)
They're different characters
Asuka Langley Sohryu
Asuka Shikinima Langley

>>724094815
I hate that this has caused Shikinami to supplant Soryu in nearly all Eva stuff

>>724094478
The best thing about Rebirth is the obvious fact that they are SEQUELS after 3rd impact. Which makes them absolutely based.

>>724094815
They are the same character
But different people

Are you too scared to post this on /a/?

Rebuilds were a mistake

>>724095091
/a/ loves random NGE threads, what are you on about?

>>724095019
>Rebirth
FF7 had a third impact?
And no it wasn't obvious, in fact Square marketing for it sold it as a faithful remaster which is why people got pissed at the time janny bullshit

>duuh why do they not remake games that are already perfect?
It's a fucking mystery

Today I will remind them

>>724096186
CGI and AI are the future chud, dumb chud CHUDDY

>>724096186
That scene was better in the film despite the 3d shit, it may even be the best action scene in the entire franchise.

i want to have sex with any and all asukas
no i have not and will not watch eva

>>724094251 (OP)
Asuka is a whore

>>724097092
Agent Kusanagi... i...

>>724094251 (OP)
Asuka>Rei also Rebuild isn't canon
>there are never remakes of good games
Crash N sane and Mafia remake that are even better than the originals

>>724096921
>the future
>2012
time for bed grandpa

>>724096186
>2012
It was 2006 actually and looked amazing at the time and held up for years.

>>724096186
>>724097504
2.2 was 2009

>>724095060
They are neither the same character nor the same person, dumb faggot.

>>724096186
anti soul light

>>724096186
I hate shitty 3d anime as much as the next guy but you cant tell me the original is better beyond taking screenshots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_1XZ2K2fEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3OZt45NbA8

>>724097371
These terms are acceptable

there are people to this day, who don't know that Asuka is Shinji with a wig

>>724095019
>rebirth
you're getting your dogshit bloated stealth sequels mixed up

>Anyone noticed there are never remakes of good games?
nigga it's literally the opposite.

>>724097850
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3OZt45NbA8
forced animation

>>724098649
forced meme, not only is the animation better, its just better paced and directed.

>>724094251 (OP)
rebuilds are fine

mari is great, but rei is still best girl

>>724098883
it's not a meme. in your own comparison you can see a fuckton of useless filler animation, that serves zero purpose and is retarded on top of that, like those raised shields that Shinji used to change direction

>>724097850
>but you cant tell me the original is better beyond taking screenshots
I can. The original has much more weight to everything.

>>724094251 (OP)
Even EVA got a demake
Roru, rumao even

>>724095019
>they are SEQUELS after 3rd impact

>>724094251 (OP)
Soul versus Soulless.

>>724099070
>like those raised shields that Shinji used to change direction
you are a pleb, that's the coolest part. anime fans have been eating shit for so long they actually complain when the animation is smoother than 8fps

>>724097850
You have some incredibly shitty taste because the original mogs that CGI float fest
>DUDE MUH RAMPS
>DUDE MUH HOPPING ON THE BUILDINGS
>DUDE MUH SOUND BARRIER HOLY POGGERS

>>724099221
It was only a 'theory' until 3.0+1.0 confirmed it.

>>724099179
>The original has much more weight to everything.
literally the complete opposite of what is true.

>>724099221
It was revealed to me during the third movie

>>724099318
there is a remastered version of evangelion that looks better, without all the bullshit. but don't let me stop you from enjoying your slop

>>724099421
>>724099493
>somehow, Evangelion returned

>>724099485
You need to get your eyes checked. When I watch the original I can feel Unit 01 landing, I can feel it pushing back against Sahaqueil. When I watch Rebuild everything is just awkwardly floating. What fucking weight do you see in Rebuild? The camera bouncing when he lightly hops on rooftops for no reason?

>>724099318
I hope you're baiting because holy shit man.

>>724099343
>DUDE TRYING HARD IS SO FUCKING LAME AND REDDIT
>I WANT SUBTLE ANIMATION IN MY MECHA ANIME FIGHT SCENE
zzzzz, contrarian brain rot.
>>724099663
The original looks like a bunch of men running around dressed in tokusatsu suits, they look like massive robots in the film with weight and momentum. these arguments are retarded because i know why you're arguing your position, the aesthetics are better in the original and the nostalgia is nice but you're just inventing other reasons why its better. The 3d in the film when the angel dies is terrible, I will admit.

>>724099421
That makes literally no fucking sense. They literally had an entire film called "THE END of Evangelion" that pretty decisively concluded the franchises story. The next time we see "Evangelion" on the big screen it pretty obviously doesn't continue from where we left and is very clearly being a remake/reboot that changes everything. How is that a "sequel"? Are anime fans terminally retarded or something? Why would they theorize it to be a sequel?

>>724094251 (OP)
>Anyone noticed there are never remakes of good games? Its always garbage slop barely 5 years old.

both of these things are completely false tho

>>724100172
NTA but you are a fucking idiot. The rebuilds are an abomination and are not Evangelion, they are an exercise in IP laundering to sell more merchandise and keep the series relevant into the new millennium. If you retards actually think Mari is there for any other reason except to appeal to degenerate coomers (AKA the exact type of person that End of Eva was indicting), I'm not sure what to tell you. It's literally all right there on the surface, sovl vs sovless, simple as that.

>>724100384
If anything it feels like OP has been getting it backwards, it's been nothing but shitty remakes of good games. Deus Ex being the latest example.

>>724099786
Please give me your autistic cinema sins tier criticism of why its shit because its unrealistic and how actually the best way to direct this scene would be for shinji to just shoot it with a gun because catching a falling satellite is gay and try hard.

the rebuild movies all fucking suck and if you like them then i'm afraid you have the shittiest taste imaginable

EoE was the last piece of real eva media

>>724100470
I never said the rebuild was better than the original series, I said that specific action scene is better in the film.

>>724095019
>make a remake bc you need money to fund ur new studio and lawsuit
>turn it into a reboot
>suddenly call it a sequel during the next manic episode
>because... le magic time travel n shieet we pulled out of our asses with no explanation
>anime golems eat it all up and come up with the most insane bullshit to make sense of it
>ez money from figurines and branded everything since you now successfully resurrected a deadshit property from 30 years ago into a forever ip thanks to dumb zoomers
Star Wars was torn apart for much less.

>>724100470
>appeal to degenerate coomers
Not even that
Mari is literally anno's wife's selfinsert

>>724094251 (OP)
the crash and spyro remakes were remakes of good games, but the remakes themselves were not good. I'm guessing the main reason they even remade them was because they couldn't just port PS1 games to other company's consoles.

>>724101248
>Mari is literally anno's wife's selfinsert
I like how vehemently angry this made the director, and the fans too when you try to point it out on fan sites and forums. The party told you to reject the evidence of their eyes, it was their final and most essential command.

I unironically basedfaced in real life when he dropped this.

>>724101484
>I'll do it Ayanami. Neon Genesis.
I wanted to slit something in real life when I heard this.

>>724101484
>become evangelion man Shinji!
i soifaced so hard irl

>>724101484
omfg this is so epic my dilated pussy creamed XD

>>724101484
Why didn't Shinji bang his waifu who waited 14 years in isolation to see him again?

>>724095019
YO NIGGA THAT'S DEEEEEEEP

>>724095019
>they are SEQUELS after 3rd impact

>>724095019
>>724099493
>>724099421
The rebuilds are just a version of Evangelion that sticks closer to some original concept drafts while also injecting some of Anno's new ideas. That's why the first film is mostly 1:1 and why the second film ends with the third impact.
Not to say that's good, just what Anno intended. The rebuilds aren't sequels, that's just people misunderstanding the world of Evangelion (or basing their understanding on bad dubs or even worse subs).

>>724102315
because she was old as fuck at that point?

Evangaylion was never good, i still fap at Asuka tho

>>724103652
isnt mari like 50 years old or osmething

What the fuck happened with all the fans of these series?, Even if they failed to attract new fans to the series in recent years, the old ones should still be around, but no, but it feels like if everyone got tanos'd

>>724104539
It's almost like the show got popular in the west 25 years ago and since then, the only things to come out were four movies released over the course of about 14 years, and half of them were basically recap zone, with the third one being among the most controversial films of all time.

If I didn't like Gunbuster, why should I watch Evangelion?

>>724104760
They different anime retard

>>724094251 (OP)
Pic unrelated

>>724094251 (OP)
anyone ever noticed how OP is a fag?

>>724104539
I'm here, I'm just refusing to take part in this braindead discussion.

>>724096186
Now post them in motion.

>>724094251 (OP)
Good.
Remakes are unnecessary and we would much better off without them.

>>724104539
rebuilds drowned out a lot of discussion due to their constant shitposting, and i've noticed there seems to be some resistance for the younger people to watch anything older than 2005
it's not just the young zoomers/ gen alpha either, older zoomers/ zillennials in their late '20s seem to also be resistant to it for whatever reason as well
which is silly because when i showed some zillennials eva they pretty much all agreed it completely btfo modern anime, at least visually

>>724104539
Maryfags won, Asukafags got the consolation reward and Reifags lost, even shipperfags probably are not too keen to start shit every day anymore.

>>724094251 (OP)
Bad games should get remakes because there's a chance the remake can salvage the original idea

>>724101169
>z money from figurines and branded everything since you now successfully resurrected a deadshit property from 30 years ago into a forever ip thanks to dumb zoomers
Nobody gives a shit about the rebuilds. They have no cultural impact, all memes and references to this day are original + EOE
They only achieved in selling theatrical tickets and solidifying some newer designs for figurines.

>>724105943
>They have no cultural impact, all memes and references to this day are original + EOE
It's easy to say that when speaking entirely from a western context, but in Japan the rebuilds are fairly synonymous with the original Evangelion when brought up, and the rebuild designs are ultimately viewed as the default for all fan works.

>>724106250
I am aware. I also know the Japanese public are by and large brand and collab fiends with bad taste so I disregard their opinion.

>>724106359
>I disregard the opinions of 95% of the people who will inevitably be interested in, support, and consume this franchise
>But I will still dictate what is relevant and has staying power
The entire reason Evangelion is still "relevant" in the west is because it was one of the first proper anime to be brought over as anime and achieve mainstream success, even in spite of not originally having aired on western TV until several years after it became popular.

>>724094251 (OP)
REBUILD FOR KENSUKE ONLY!

>>724106497
>I will disregard braindead shitskins opinion and only focus on the civilized world
Yeah

>>724106535
Kensuke is so lucky...

>>724106572
>the civilized world
This is the majority of Eva's current relevancy in regards to "memes and references" in the western world.

>>724106497
>I disregard the opinions of 95% of the people who will inevitably be interested in, support, and consume this franchise
Yes. Because "supporting and consuming this franchise" means bankrolling garbage in most occasions.

>>724106535
How can I be like Kensuke and get an Asuka wife?

>>724106658
And it's all thanks to the rebuilds, but as you've shown even their fans would rather talk about Shinji taking HRT than actually discuss those shitty movies beyond "it made the original fans mad therefore it's good"

>>724095019
>people that like this shit tier sequel disguised as a remake can’t even tell them apart
Amazing. Perfectly fucking amazing.

I would take the third impact instead of another 40-50 years of this shit planet

>>724106678
>Yes. Because "supporting and consuming this franchise" means bankrolling garbage in most occasions
Those are still the vast, vast, VAST majority of people interested in and talking about Evangelion.
Hell, this site is probably not even 0.0000000001% of the conversation since Evangelion threads are just the same 2-3 spammers and the obligatory unaware newfag.
>>724106810
>And it's all thanks to the rebuilds
Actually, trannies like most other westerners haven't seen the rebuilds. The only one I've seen actually get some positivity from any western crowd was the last one, and that was probably due to the unending wait for it in addition to its, frankly, mundane message of "life is worth living or whatever".

>>724097850
I like the original more, its not even a nostalgia thing. The original isnt trying to be anything more than it is, 3 giant robots triangulating where the meteor alien is going to land. The Rebuild is a tech demo that you see playing at the TV section of an electronics store.

>>724098649
>>724099070
>forced animation
>filler animation
>serves zero purpose
I don't really get this current /v/ meme. Inevitably nobody can actually explain why or even what forced animation is supposed to mean beyond essentially vibes. Even the example here says nothing, and is ultimately ignorant of what Evangelion exists in.
Evangelion, like Gundam, like Layzner, like VOTOMS, like a lot of things, loves token realism into rule of cool. That's why the raised shields are there. If they could've done that without it looking like shit in the 90s, they would've, because that's the "realistic" take on how this giant organic machine thing would work in the real world, and it's hardly forced as it serves an in universe purpose as well, to show him building up constant speed to get to the fight as quickly as possible.

This whole idea of "forced animation" is something I only ever seen posited by people who don't actually watch anime and cannot actually explain why some animation is and and some isn't. Ultimately it's a bunch of people with meaningless opinions and nothing to say forcing themselves to hold an opinion on a subject solely to be contrarian and nothing more.

>>724107001
>Actually, trannies like most other westerners haven't seen the rebuilds
I agree and I don't think it contradicts my post. The majority of western discourse about the Rebuilds is about how it's good because it made the original fans angry and regurgitating how Anno said he hates the original fanbase and otakus (I've never seen anyone being able to source where he supposedly said this, I'm convinced some video essay faggot pulled it out of his ass and they just copy him). I'd even argue they haven't seen the original evangelion and probably just watched a youtube explanation of the ending considering how badly they understand it
>that was probably due to the unending wait for it
releasing after the anime was put on Netflix was probably the biggest factor
I don't want to shit up the thread further talking about trannies. I just wanted to call japs niggers

Blimpsuka

forgot what board i was on. anyways natsume seems to get it right

Asuka is such a shit character

>The majority of western discourse about the Rebuilds is about how it's good because it made the original fans angry
It isn't. Most of what I've seen is
>Nobody cares about 1
>Slight split opinion on 2 (most extreme idea I've seen is that "the ending song is functionally meaningless")
>Severe split opinion on 3 (mostly born out of later contrarianism since it was universally hated)
>4 hasn't fermented long enough for an opinion beyond "general liked" to cement in the public consciousness
In fact, I have never even seen anyone state what you claim, so I have to imagine you're some kind of sperg who thinks every post on 4chan is serious, or you're mad at one person (or, let's face it, youtuber) in specific.
Like, here, objective stats from normalfag websites.
>Anilist
Evangelion (1995) has 283,545 users marking it as completed. It has a mean score of 83%.
Shin Eva 1 has 103,800 users, less than half of the TV anime. It has a mean score of 77%.
Shin Eva 4 has 63,137 users and a mean score of 85%. A sample size of less than 1/5th, the majority of those inevitably being people who saw every other work (which means absurd bias) to get the same score.
>MyAnimeList
1,968,452 members on the original TV anime. It is the 45th most popular series on there. It has a mean score of 8.36.
Shin Eva 1 has 603,984 members and a mean score of 8.00.
Shin Eva 4 has 411,576 members. It has a mean score of 8.58, and only 184,274 users ranked it.

The rebuilds are not as prevalent in the west as you are insisting for some odd reason. You act like there's this massive fanbase talking about how great they are, but it doesn't exist outside of maybe some pocket you sought out, purposefully, to feel mad about something.
>releasing after the anime was put on Netflix was probably the biggest factor
Netflix did not make any new Evangelion fans. To go back to MAL, in 2009 it was the tenth most popular anime on the site. Today it's #45.

Asuka.

Asuka is for Rei

>>724107627
Like, is the anime on the right "forced animation"? Because it's not communicating anything more than the one on the left, and it certainly isn't as faithful to what it is adapting as the one on the left, so is that forced animation?

>>724096186
Budget /= talent

>>724105545
I find it kind of disturbing that anything that isn't purchasable digitally on modern consoles or Steam when it comes to games or isn't available on a streaming platform when it comes to movies might as well just not even exist for most people these days.

>>724105545
>and i've noticed there seems to be some resistance for the younger people to watch anything older than 2005
Irony to posting this on /v/, the board where people will only talk about how great older anime are rather than actually sitting down and watching them.
>which is silly because when i showed some zillennials eva they pretty much all agreed it completely btfo modern anime, at least visually
Evangelion looks pretty, but it's the same way Berserk looks pretty, this isn't Tetsuwan Atom (1980) or Ashita no Joe 2 or fucking Anne, it's a lot of still shots, there's whole episodes where about 5% of the episode could be one static shot and it's not just that elevator scene.

>>724094251 (OP)
I like the designs from the SDC ova, 2012 is good too but in the OVA they just look badass

CGI is not animation
Anything that has CGI is not worth watching or discussing